#gtfo-technical-support

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slate valve
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it doesn't update, altho I cleared them before

regal prairie
halcyon sage
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is d1 just really buggy or something? my group and i got to the end but didnt get the exit scan so we wiped, then got the checkpoint bug with more seconds per frame and door opening sound spam

dire vault
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Some can't even run the level at all due to a massive memory leak, and the overload objective has been broken in one way or another for months.

halcyon sage
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yeah we did it again without the overload and it went smoother

dire vault
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Fun fact. Overload right now is spawning something along the lines of 3-4x the intended amount of jerries

halcyon sage
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not sure how someone would do the last part solo with bots in overload

fierce laurel
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wow what a joke!

somber mountain
mighty cipher
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great advice

fading aurora
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how do i set down a turret?

wet sail
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take the turret tool in your hand
look at the floor close to you, you should see a little box indicator, which turns red if the position is valid
press your interact button (E by default) for about 2 seconds, while not moving (a bar will indicate that you are putting down your turret)
Your turret will face the direction you were facing
you can then press E again on the turret for about 2 seconds to pick up back up

warm zealot
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WE NEED A NEW EVAL

somber mountain
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new eval should be E tier

warm zealot
unkempt imp
uneven valve
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Been having an issue with public lobbies where I’m loading in and approx 15 seconds in the game everyone desyncs on my screen and runs in place but voice chat still works and they can see me moving around

echo maple
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Finished C2 secondary & overload but it isn't showing completed? is it bugged?

slim bay
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Just have to do it again basically. Else if you recorded it you can send a bug report with the proof, and your Steam ID.

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You also don't get completion for anything if you use mods. If you've used mods before in your default GTFO folder, delete the GTFO game folder,
and the %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO folder, and reinstall GTFO.
(This does reset your settings. Also you may wanna backup your logs, and stuff too)

lucid relic
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my squad and i were at extraction for b2 when i dc'd they hopped off point so i could have a chance to rejoin but before i even fully lagged out all 3 of them crashed at the same time, did servers go down or something? this was a long and difficult run for us and were all pretty pissed.

shrewd brook
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fix game please. how long is this bug gonna exist and ruin my runs?

knotty cove
knotty cove
knotty cove
slim bay
hoary dove
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how to join other ppl lobby?

jovial jasper
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matchmake

hoary dove
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i cant find anyone tho

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need some help

jovial jasper
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patience

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or use the lfg's, they're way more responsive

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.t lfg

rose thicketBOT
hoary dove
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i cant join lobby

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i have try it

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no join lobby options

jovial jasper
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copy the number code to clipboard

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then a red join button should show up

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numbers will look like 192736261663636

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or something of the sort

hoary dove
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it did not show up the red join button

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after i control C the code and tab back into gtfo

silk pagoda
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Took a look through the past few convos here and can see the objective item duplication bug is a big issue. We've had it stop progress in C1 with my group 4 separate times now. Is there any workaround if it happens aside from restart the level? We've been stuck on this level for months, and simply don't have the time to restart everything AND lose our boosters for it 😅 We've been trying to ensure nobody has a battery in hand before activating the checkpoint, but as you see, it still hit 3 of my group.

slim bay
jovial jasper
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avoid checkpoints

silk pagoda
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To be precise for dev bug logging, it's an intermittent issue, steps to replicate below:

  1. Progress to C1, Zone 13 checkpoint. All 4 team members assist in carrying a battery.
  2. All team members placed batteries in front of door.
  3. A battery is inserted to activate the checkpoint, and the checkpoint is activated.
  4. Players die and respawn at checkpoint.
  5. After respawning, players randomly are holding batteries, which they cannot drop or use.
slim bay
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If you need anymore tips a good one is to refund or just wait for a new rundown where it may or may not be worse.

silk pagoda
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Bit late for that, been playing since R4 lol

jovial jasper
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they know all about the bug already

slim bay
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They know about it. Not how to fix it or why it really happens. May be related to desyncs. That’s all we’ve had for over a year.

silk pagoda
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Well damn.

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Thanks anyway folks, I'll see if we can just wait 2-5 mins to try and work around it and pray

slim bay
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This has been an issue since RELEASE. Wish they would have stayed in early access longer. Feels lied to, and shitty to play a broken released game with timed events.

slim bay
somber mountain
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it looked similar to other reproduce technique that wasn't 100% happen

silk pagoda
# somber mountain is this 100% reproduce step?

No, it's intermittent, not 100%, and affected different people in the party over the 4 times we had it, including myself as host. Of note, we regularly drop the batteries in front of the door and then open the door usually within 30s, then just keep playing since the bug only occurs on restarting at the checkpoint.

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We've just been very unlucky to reproduce it as often as we have I guess.

somber mountain
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i believed that, it's either related to desync, or there is some program on player computer/laptop that's causing connection issue

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the Asus laptop has a program on it that cause internet connection in GTFO

hoary dove
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i copy lobby id but no join lobby from clipboard option on my gtfo any help?

sleek yacht
regal prairie
gentle solar
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C2 cell bug is still not fixed one guy stuck with a cell even if you spawn from checkpoint

warm zealot
signal slate
shrewd brook
halcyon glade
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I was just playing a round of B1 with my gf and when we died at the last scan and loaded back up to the last checkpoint. I was holding on to the ||box like thing that you put in the machine next to the door|| and couldn't drop it as it was most likely registered as "placed in box". I couldn't even change weapons or anything of that sort. Just stuck and had to forfeit the round.

woven chasm
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Unfortunately that one is quite widely known and has been around for a while, and I'm not sure theres anything you can do about it if it happens

halcyon glade
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darn

somber mountain
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the one that got the bug need to leave

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replace with a bot, and then checkpoint again

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the box should be put down by the bot automatically, and then your gf can rejoin

slim bay
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Remember to do 3 full spins in your chair as well.
Doesn’t fix anything but it might for a bug in the future so might as well practice.

flint sun
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is there something wrong with matchmaking? If I try to fill lobby I suddenly got moved to another lobby alone...

buoyant fractal
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just never use matchmaking honestly

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its better to use the discord since you'll find more like minded/serious people

buoyant fractal
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@fluid dust Please post ur error here

fluid dust
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Hello. Not sure if i should post it here, but here it goes - I think i have a problem with GTFO colors or something. All the colors, that are supposed to be red - they are blue. Not only that, but lockers in the game as well ( front side is orange/red, my is watery blue ), fog ( usually ) etc....On my sisters lap top, different copy of the game ( we are on the same network ) - everything is as it should be. Not to mentioned that it's difficult to read that blue color, almost impossible - kind of light blue, which is very similar to the black background . Also....monsters, that red-ish thing ( head or stomach )....it's also blue 🙂 Any idea ?

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I do have two monitors, as well. But what i have noticed is that when i try to take a screenshot with snipping tool, or pring screen ( or any alt tab command ) - it goes to red ( what it's supposed to look like ). Only thing that i can do, is to send you a picture from my phone.

visual pulsar
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@fluid dust you can use the + button on the left to upload a file such as a picture of what you're dealing with

fluid dust
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Thanks

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Lockers, fog, that red thing from monsters....all blue....

sweet stag
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are your drivers up to date? Also does this happen with any other games or just gtfo?

fluid dust
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Just gtfo. Ill try to unplug my second monitor.

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Drivers are up to date.

sweet stag
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have you tried calibrating your screen? also have you tried pressing f12 in game to take a screenshot on steam? You might be able to get better images of it that way since you don't have to alt tab to do that

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really really strange bug, can't say I've ever seen anything like this before

gleaming whale
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Hi! My friend has the bug where levels b1 and b2 will crash the game. I found reports about this all the way back to 2020, does anyone know if there was ever found a fix to this?

fluid dust
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I managed to fix it...kind of. It shows blue , when you are in full screen mode , in graphic options, but when you change it to windown or full screen exclusive - colors are Ok. Just to let you know.

cold relic
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probably something borked in your drivers

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or OS

fluid dust
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Not sure. In any case, if someone has the same problem, let him try this "fix" 🙂

cold relic
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"t's not a fix by definition, rather a workaround"
🤓

warm zealot
gleaming whale
worthy spindle
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i m trying to play with a friend gtfo and we cant ready up to initiante the cage drop for the first mision(A1)

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if someone can help

warm zealot
warm zealot
worthy spindle
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how can i swich the coffee cuz when the pc ask me i choose private internet

warm zealot
worthy spindle
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im from romania

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can u come vc?

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cuz i think i will understand better

warm zealot
worthy spindle
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np

wheat cipher
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We just encountered an interesting bug in B2 while using the first uplink terminal.
The "wave" sound happened like 20 times at the same moment then the terminal broke. The Biotracker showed an nearly entire red screen and we had like 10 fps before i sent us to the lobby. Can send vid later

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Is the current version broken?

somber mountain
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that's a new one, or one i have never encountered

dry bear
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Hi friends, my game's not been running well if someone could help point me towards resources/some help?

I'm sat at like 90% memory use (15/16gb) and having general performance drops, say opening doors and when changing menu tabs. Nothing setup wise has changed since last playing, on D1 and wasn't having issues a month or so ago when playing, I haven't changed my settings but motion blur etc. had re-enabled so only other thing I can think of is if a patch reset any settings I'd tweaked

wet sail
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D1 is pretty heavy on resources, if this is the level you have specific issues with. most it maxed out on my pc was about 8gb but others had less luck. It can be heavy on performance and crashes in rare occasions

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there is not much to do except lowering graphics (especially texture size in that case)

dry bear
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Ah ok, ty! We'll change off the level for now as tired vibes anyway, I'll tweak my settings for next time c:

wet sail
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Oh btw even with good performance, expect bugs such as flashlight mysteriously staying "behind" then the room becoming completely invisible, it's quite annoying

jovial jasper
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it's like blinking but the ambience stays in vision

hasty raft
wet sail
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I think it tries to fuck with your ram floshed
As I said, never went above 8gb out of 32

zenith dune
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Just downloaded the game and loaded up the Evaluation, and saw flickering in the shadows after immediately turning around and viewing the chasm. I thought for a second it was part of the atmosphere, because it looked a little like the afterimage produced by ghosts in F.E.A.R. I tried taking a capture using GFE but it wouldn't record the game.

hardy orbit
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Whenever I try to host a lobby, everything loads. But when my friend tries to join, it puts him in the lobby but I cant see that he joined, and he cant see anything in the lobby. It doesn't let me start missions for some reason either. Any fixes?

regal prairie
zenith dune
zenith dune
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I've found the issue is exacerbated when I hit lower framerates. Here's with a 30 FPS cap to further highlight what I'm experiencing.

zenith dune
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Someone on Reddit seems to think it's related to object culling. I'm just a layman, but my hunch says they're on to something.

proper spruce
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Hello, I'm having trouble hearing in-game audio

stone vine
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turn up your ears

proper spruce
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If you refering to headphones/speaker i turn the volume all the way up

stone vine
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no i mean your eardrums
turn the volume up on them

proper spruce
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I can hear the main menu music, but not any in game sound

proper spruce
stone vine
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thank you i put no effort into that

proper spruce
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but seriously i need help

stone vine
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is the audio like muffled or is it just too low?

proper spruce
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i literally can hear anytihing when i'm in-game

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anything

stone vine
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idk what to do about that
sorry
i could suggest maybe reinstalling the game but idk

proper spruce
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thanks for the help

buoyant fractal
proper spruce
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My audio cuts out immediately once I get into matchmaking

buoyant fractal
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Have you tried verifying the integrity of games files from steam? Seems like it might be a faulty installation or corrupted files

buoyant fractal
proper spruce
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Ok I’ll try that

buoyant fractal
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Open steam Library > click on GTFO > top-right corner settings button

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open properties

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then local files > verify integrity

proper spruce
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I just did it

fluid wing
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they generally have 2 modes one for general audio one for calling, maybe when you get into matchmaking it switches to calling mode for the mic but that has some issues?

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try manually setting your input output device

buoyant fractal
hasty raft
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not to mention did you try opening your map?

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theres a sound bug where the game thinks you're in the map

weary shore
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Hey, I am currently stuck with a bug. In the first level (A1) when my friend have to give the collection case to a device next to the door 95 (with a checkpoint) and if we die, the case still in his hand and he cannot use his weapon at all.. 😦

stone vine
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thats a really annoying bug
its best to not hold objective items when doing a checkpoint scan

weary shore
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but a the moment we do the check scan the first time, we don't have the objective in hand 😦

stone vine
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huh
idk then tbh sorry

weary shore
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yup, no way to do a report or smth ?

stone vine
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but thats a pretty known bug idk why it aint fixed yet

hasty raft
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it's a really infamous bug from a year ago

stone vine
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10c neglecting to fix a infamous bug thats been around for a year

hollow dragon
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does anyone else have low gpu utilization when playing gtfo? non issue for all my other games but on gtfo my gpu maxes out at like 70% while remaining in the low 70 fps in busy scenes, ive swapped gpus, uninstalled reinstalled both the game and drivers and idk what to do

wet sail
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have you changed the CPU culling workload option thingy in the advanced settings ? if it's at high you might want to put it to low instead

hollow dragon
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tried that actually makes it worse

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i have a 12600k and 3080

wet sail
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that's weird, it should make it better

hasty raft
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when the game struggles on low end hardware but won't utilize high end anyway PirateSimon

stone vine
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imagine

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"my pc is not bad the game is just poorly optimized"

simple mauve
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FYI B1 Rundown Run Ending Bug. BE Aware.
(I've already submitted the report on it just letting y'all know)

On any death in rundown B1 after depositing the Shuttle Box and activating the subsequent checkpoint, the party will, if they choose to restart at last checkpoint, respawn with the ||baby vessel|| missing, and one party member (the one who deposited the shuttle box originally) holding the shuttle box to be delivered. However, as the door is open, the box deposit closed, and the ||baby|| missing, we are soft locked. The player in question cannot drop the box, even if downed. They are unable to interact, switch items, or receive any utilities. This was successfully recreated twice in a row under similarly set up circumstances. On one attempt, we scanned the checkpoint holding the ||baby|| (the first pass), on the second, we sat it down first. Both soft locked on respawn.

Items marked as spoilers for lore spoiler protection.

warm zealot
shrewd notch
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Hello! Can anyone help me? I'm not sure what to do. My game is stuck in a resolution of 3840x2160 DSR and I'm unable to change it to my respective resolution of 1920x1080. I've done things like uninstalling the game, verifying game files, and trying many different ways to change the resolution. My game also crashes if I sit still for too long. If you have any advice or insight into the matter that would be greatly appreciated.

unkempt imp
shrewd notch
simple mauve
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You could always try steam launch options, if the devs have them integrated

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Like most games, try -w to force launching in windowed mode

stone vine
thin heart
placid plume
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%AppData%\..\LocalLow\
Alternative way to get there

velvet egret
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me and my friends are getting a crash on e1 around phase 4 reactor pretty much every attempt

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making it impossible to complete

novel shard
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Hey there, every time I'm about to drop into a level and I get right to the end of the drop the game and all my other applications crash? I haven't had any problems before, I was playing PE yesterday with no problems but now I cannot even load into any level without everything on my PC crashing. Any help?

gaunt glade
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The game just kicked me out when i was playing with my friend. I cannot join again and game just frozen

gaunt glade
stone vine
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there are no teammates
its all in your head

gaunt glade
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shiza

fallow fog
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C2 bug still here and my group just had to abandon our run

ivory citrus
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Sooo just ran b2 main, but during it as the host i crashed and re joined it. After that, all the enemys, including scouts and big guys, were one tap with anything. Even un charged melee. Didnt know where else to sumbit this soo, yea

ivory citrus
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Non of us had ever downloaded mods though. Also before i crashed they were normal health

warm zealot
fathom anchor
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quick question, does win11 allows GTFO runs normally?

stone vine
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yes gtfo can run on windows 11

worldly terrace
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Anyone know how to get the bots to do the scans on C2? I’ve tried like 12 times now and they always get stuck on the 5th scan and won’t walk into it.

toxic parrot
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Hi having issues starting and joining games with friends. When I host lobby we are not able to launch after readying up. If a friend hosts we will end up with an infinite load time. If friend hosts and starts game before I join I am able to connect and play but am often unable to interact with pickups and lockers. Can also only see host moving around as well as bots but non host players character will be stationary even tho I can see them open lockers and doors. I have tried a fresh download and verifying files through steam. I am running windows 11 and have noticed that GTFO does not show up with other apps in system settings or under control panel when looking to uninstall. This is a new Laptop and issue for me. Currently running on a MSI RAIDER GE76. Is there a fix for this issue?

lofty cobalt
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Hey, crashed in E1 and keep trying to drop back in but the drop in is taking 5+ minutes then it crashes

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Any idea what's up with that?

rich pelican
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Hello!!! I have a problem that I have completed the A1 level three times but it still tells me that it is not completed! It's quite annoying that after suffering, the great joy is in vain!

hasty raft
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did you pirate the game?

rich pelican
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nop, I buy it 4 days ago!

rich pelican
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ooo lol and now working o.O

warm zealot
plucky orchid
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Hey, any way to force host migration if the host has lost internet connection?

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We are in a lobby and can see eachother moving but the host has lost connection? (He's still in the game tho)

little frost
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Has anyone else had GTFO disconnect/ uninstall bluetooth on their PC when loading into a level? I searched a little through the discord but haven't found any answers on whether someone managed to fix it

high depot
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Is there any way to deal with this? It's like that on checkpoint and we tried exchanging it as much as we could. Restart only?
B1, first time trying the game, bummed down by some of the bugs.

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It gets better, i can't interact with anything except doors and my deployed turret is considered and objective.

stone vine
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carrying the objective item while doing a checkpoint scan bugs the game

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when you go back to checkpoint it does that
its best to not hold it while doing the scan

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as for the sentry

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it isnt considered an objective item, its just so you know where its placed

high depot
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Oh no, it's part of the same bug, i can't pick up neonate, sometimes it makes it two (and only one can be dropped), and i can't pick up or hack locks or do anything. Hoping we can try and get at least one of the neonates to ending and finish it.

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Is it better to just leave it at room's start and then pick it up after we're done with checkpoint?

somber mountain
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well, ye, you don't need to bring it until the end

stone vine
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its fine to drag it around with you just dont hold it during scans

limber pulsar
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sick game

limber pulsar
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also why do bots shoot at players if an enemy is infront of them instead of repositioning around the player?

stone vine
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bots are braindead

hasty raft
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why doesn't the game make it so you'd automatically drop objective items on checkpoints

shadow cliff
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Всем привет

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Русские есть?

limber pulsar
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bots can use the legs they are given

gaunt matrix
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In games, there is often a problem with server crashes, I will explain the situation that was repeated many times:
Three players + 1 bot, one player completely crashes the game, all NPCs including the bot and monsters stand still, no one takes damage, doors and drawers do not open, items and first-aid kits are not used. The dropped player cannot connect.

sleek yacht
unreal cave
sleek yacht
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That's likely why it's hard to reproduce then I guess

low wadi
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my potato laptop crashes when it finishes loading a level when it used to be able to do it before halp

shut pivot
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First time playing with pals yesterday and I got the checkpoint bug. I was carrying the neonate HSU when the player who invited us all into the same session had to quit and it reset us back to the last checkpoint with the HSU at my feet and my character no longer being able to use terminals or pick up items.

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Was 3 of us and a bot, and all of us had just finished the tutorial.

wet coral
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So, since the prerequisites for the apparel has changed in this update, I haven't actually been given all 10 cosmetic items, as I never completed all of the r7 cosmetic objectives, is there anything I can do?

frail prawn
wet coral
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The conditions for the challenges were changed though, originally I had yet to complete "Finish all secondary objectives" and "Finish all overload objectives"
With the new requirements, it just needs you to finish every level, which I had already done, and it therefor marked all of the cosmetic challenges as complete

frail prawn
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Are you in Rundown 1, or Rundown 7? You have to choose R7 from the select screen, or do these not show up there?

wet coral
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R7

frail prawn
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I can ask one of the devs about it if thats the case, shoot me a screenshot too if you can

wet coral
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Via dm?

frail prawn
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Ye

wet coral
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Will do!

dire ginkgo
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There's a bug that made said that i havent completed R1A1 even though i already did just finished it

narrow plaza
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so... cool pathfind on the 1st lvl r1 🙂
fix plz

little forge
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Completed A1 and everyone except host got the completion. Now host is unable to host B1.
What do?

meager harbor
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Hi guys, first post on the Discord so excuse me if this is the wrong channel for this.
Started playing the game yesterday and cleared R7A1 and R7B1 with friends, today we attempted R7B2 but ran into an issue where we couldn't figure out how to progress (the part where we need a keycard to access Zone 126, which is obtained in Zone 125) because we could not open the security door to Zone 125. After a while we reluctantly checked some youtube videos of clears to see what we had done wrong.
Our main objective, which we started the mission with was "Find Hydrostasis Depressurizer [Item_Serial] and use it to open the Neonate HSU" and when looking at youtube videos of R7B2 everyone else started with the objective "Find the Uplink Terminals TERMINAL_XXX, TERMINAL_XXX and establish an external uplink from each terminal". From the looks of videos it seems like opening Zone 125's security door is part of the uplink terminal objective, so what we concluded was the mission is bugged and giving us the wrong main objective.
We all run into this issue when loading R7B2 and have tried loading another mission then reloading R7B2 to no avail. Curious if this is indeed bugged and others are running into this issue or if there was something we missed?
I've attached a screenshot of the objective we get upon starting the mission, the Neonate HSU is also present which I didn't see in any videos.

fathom tide
meager harbor
meager shard
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Hello, can anyone help me? the game crashes and gives me this message

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do you know how to fix it? I would appreciate your help

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🙏

mighty cipher
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how can we dm the mods like community calle? i dont see only moderators anymore, is this bcs of a discord update?

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a while back the devs decided to make character glasses bright so we can see face, many players dislike this including me, would you provide two versions of each head-gear one with light face and one with dark glasses because that looks much better..? not much work after all. just back it pitch black. give players the choice which gear they want to wear, badass dark glasses or sunshine.

rocky bough
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anyone else suffering from stuttering?

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my rig was handling the last version just fine with the same settings

cold relic
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Message @rose thicket instead

median pebble
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any reason why i didn't get any apparel for doing r1a1?

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still says not completed for me

high atlas
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servers are in peace rn

mighty cipher
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wow its the memberlist function, could have told me

cold relic
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to be fair, Calle is more of a separate entity to the moderators of the server (aka the community manager)

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which in his specific case it's more than fine to DM him

median widget
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I'm having an issue where my mouse is drifting to the right, but only in this game as soon as I start it up. Any idea how to fix?

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Never mind

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I figured out what the problem was and fixed it

modest prism
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Can anyone tell me what the hell is wrong with my game? I've launched it up several times and even restarted my PC no results

placid plume
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does this only happen with gtfo?

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I would recommend maybe reseating your ram or gpu, it appears to be some sort of memory problem

modest prism
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I fixed it. it was a bug with the game just uninstall and re-install

jolly arch
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It keeps crashing, whenever I drop for R1A1, it just crashes after the pre-mission text comes up during the drop

jolly arch
jolly arch
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The game just seems to be very unstable at the moment. Makes me super sad, I love the game to death :(

plush solstice
tough valve
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there is a bug where the cfoam doesn't connect to the doors

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its been here since forever don't know why it hasn't been fixed

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but just plan around it

plush solstice
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Oooh, fun. That's the first time I encountered it so I thought it might have been something to the update

tough valve
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nah

hasty raft
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that bug happens so many times on R7E1

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well more so it's the reason a mission fails which makes it more noticeable

reef galleon
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Question, where does the button to join other lobbies appear now? I copy it and the option just doesn't pop up...

mighty leaf
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I was playing R1C1 with sniper sentry with some CPU speed boosters on and bio tracker pings and I didn't know if it was normal for the sniper to lose 3 rounds in one shot? I watched the ammo counter dip from 7 to 4 to 1 like every shot unless it's just slow to update

tame zenith
#

Has anyone had any issues booting the game? Have a friend who gets a black screen on launch now, tried reinstalling,running on different dx, and updating gpu drivers already.

torn vine
#

R1CI ping loss issue?

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once it happened to a teammate and second time myself

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was running smoothly and suddenly ping spike

tulip needle
#

Bots are always supposed to walk with the player
but then there is this funny bug
where the bot doesn´t want to move anymore during an alarm
he only stands there and shoots
and gets killed
and everything i prepared is for nothing
cause of bots which when i want them to stay, they always walk becasue they are not coded to stand still

but then it stands still and klills everyone

this happens during error alarms
or while moving through different zones during an alarm

it happened several times in D1, even one time, where all three bots got stuck
and now a few times during A1C1

i don´t know if it gets fixed if you use the "On me" command
but when you don´t notice it that your bots are missing suddenly,
you can just give up sometimes

oblique juniper
#

Hi was trying to fix the hud. I have a Ultra wide screen and the hud is a little far out so I was trying to bring it in but I can seem to find a setting for it. is there ?

cold relic
#

perhaps HUD scaling?

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but there is no way to adjust the hud dead zone manually

oblique juniper
#

that's sad to hear but something that I have to deal with thanks for letting me know and I did try hud scaling it just makes it bigger or smaller

sage root
#

We duplicated the neonate.

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I have spawned a bot and force it to aqquire the 2nd neonate

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i have banished the bot to the shadow realm

atomic tree
#

game freezes and stutters a lot

plucky egret
#

anyone having no clipping issues with being the host in R7C1?

acoustic prawn
#

My friend is having a problem with the mouse drifting constantly to the top of his screen, even after recent updates the problem persists. He has a blue tooth controller and has tried removing it as a device from his computer, but that didn't work. Any other suggestions?

dry pumice
#

Hey everyone I could use your help with something

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When I turn my computer on steam and discord run fine no problems. However when I open up GTFO and try to host a lobby, copy ID, choose a rundown, when i come back here everything is moving super slowly or is completely frozen. Cant do a thing but reset my computer or hope i can get task manager up.

atomic tree
#

could anyone dm me the best graphics settings for performance and quality?

somber mountain
atomic tree
#

both

somber mountain
#

that's greedy

atomic tree
#

indeed

mighty cipher
#

will GTFO ever support DX12 ? why was the game not made for DX12 / atleast support it?

#

more clear detail and little performance increase

dire pivot
#

Any way to make the dmrs sight less blurry? I basically have all my settings to low.

sinful flicker
#

Hello, I am having a problem on Start up I looked for some other people in here that had the same problem but didn't find a solution.
1. starting the game from steam (freshly downloaded just bought)
2. loads the warning and agree to terms screen
3. then it stutters a little bit and starts the "cutscene" where it tells you information about your character like ID and your steam nickname
**4. **after pressing and holding the button i get to the menu

at any point in these steps an error window pops up for a second and then closes the game without saying anything
(screenshot of the window only shows for a second then closes everything)

Launching the game in Admin mode does help but i can not get through step 3. as the button does not show and the ID is all zeros with the name "Unknown" (instead of my nickname)

I did get to the mission screen once and after pressing the tutorial mission it crashed once again.
These crashes are fast like alt+f4 it just closes the game for no reason other then maybe not being able to load anything.

just noticed it is in #known-issues
So there is no way for me to play the game at this moment?
i played beta and it worked fine. Do you know anyone who had this issue yet they can now play?

graceful basalt
#

Thought I should put this here but if anyone’s pc gets really spicy when playing this game, even at like max fan speed, make sure your fps isn’t set to “infinite”. My pc was at like 210 fahrenheit (98 celsius) and lowering all the graphical settings did nothing. When I set my target framerate down to like 110 then it set a steady 150 fahrenheit (65 celsius)

limber parcel
#

Good to know

cold relic
#

get a good cooling system lol

low wadi
fluid jasper
#

my buddy is unable to change his loudout in any lobby we are in, and nothing saves in his game settings or apparel settings

spare nest
#

Im stuck at "game waiting for system assets to initialize"
With Alias UNKNOWN

On proton(6.3, 7.4, Experimental, GEProton7-37)

I already reinstalled and deleted the prefix

tulip needle
#

Why does GTFO run soo smoothly with 40-50 FPS?

regal prairie
spare nest
regal prairie
#

if can test xorg, try

spare nest
#

I'm gonna try but I don't like xorg
Too much input lag

obtuse moth
#

Hey everyone, just got the game for my bd. Quick question, can the game be run on Linux through Proton or should it be run exclusively on windows?

cold relic
obtuse moth
#

Alright, thank you

left isle
#

I am having the same problem where I can launch the game but as soon as I am trying to load the map my game crashes

sinful flicker
# sinful flicker Hello, I am having a problem on **Start up** I looked for some other people in h...

Hello again...
I tried it today again. And to my surprise the game loaded in after two crashes. I go to options because i reinstalled the game and changed the resolution from 1920 x 1080 full screen window to a lower one (Because I tried someones post about lowering the games resolution)
and after holding the apply button the game crashed

It loaded fine but i tried changing the resolution again and it crashed again!
I can load normaly into the menu on a 1600 resolution just fine everything is working smoothly
Until i try getting into a lobby or starting training mission.
Training mission plays the sound from the cut scene (guy waking up and gasping with rain in the background) but freezes and after like 10 seconds crashes.

**This might be memory problem ** on my part. But i have no idea why would it be i have a 16GB ram.
I dont know how to check if my hardware or software are preforming.
Any tips? just to check if its my problem? I did run Red Dead Redemption II online, Warframe not long ago.

summer jewel
#

i found an inaccesable artifact on r1b2 i cant remember the exact shelf but i have a ss of it theres no way to get it at all if i find it again ill get the actual spot its at

low wadi
vivid blade
#

Having trouble loading in with a friend

mortal oriole
#

R1B1, enemies can go through walls in the first area with the security checkpoint in the downstairs area (Very funny seeing a giant phase through a wall)

alpine tapir
#

Hey, where do I need to go here to complain about bad language localisation/ translation?

haughty dagger
willow current
half hill
#

Idk where to put this. But in this specfic spot in R1B1 in Zone 44B that has a false floor. I cant walk over it or I fall through the map.

warm zodiac
obtuse moth
half hill
warm zodiac
#

Have you seen this game? It's also bad game desing. Obvi

cloud hatch
#

I'm trying to host a game, and when I click and hold to do so, nothing - nvm it just took a while for some reason

edgy chasm
#

When will the battery bug that has existed since the early access phase finally be fixed?

edgy chasm
somber mountain
#

i have done that many time and haven't gotten the bug

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so it's stupidly hard to find a way to reproduced

edgy chasm
#

Yes, I can understand that. That's why I'm only now contacting you and asking when it will be fixed. 🙂

spare nest
spare nest
regal prairie
#

maybe different proton then, dunno

haughty dagger
#

up to date MESA?
try proton experimental?

spare nest
# haughty dagger up to date MESA? try proton experimental?

I think is a problem with Steam API
I tried all proton versions, i normally use experimental, i tried GE as well
I tried with both steam runtimes (native and steam)

CPU: Ryzen 2700X
GPU RX 6700 XT
OS: Arch Linux
Gnome 43 (Wayland)
Mesa is 22.2.1 (RADV)
Linux 6.0.2

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The game not recognize the steam name "Alias"
It says "UNKNOWN"

wispy shoal
#

I'm having an issue with R7C1, during the drop my system backscreens so hard I can't even hold the power button for 4 seconds to shut it down. I have to use the power supply switch. It only happens with this one rundown, and graphic settings don't seem to affect it. I've done an integrity check and there were no files that needed to be replaced. The previous levels in the rundown work fine.

https://pastebin.com/S7LZ3j4r paste bin of dxdiag

Any help would be appreciated. 😄

mighty cipher
#

is there a config file I can edit for custom resolutions?

#

I would like to run a non standard aspect ratio

mighty cipher
#

I edited the config file but it doesn't accept my changes

#

this is weird

cold relic
#

why would you want to run something other than native ShooterUok

#

you could try edit the settings file, but I'm pretty sure the game will try to override it if it detects a incompatible value or something

alpine tapir
#

Some people play on TV, projectors, a combination of monitors... It's possible wanting to change resolution for one reason or another.

mighty cipher
#

which is a somewhat common aspect ratio

cold relic
#

hmm
guess that makes some sense

proper seal
#

is there a way to turn off the HUD shadows? kinda giving me a headache

#

or i guess the text shadows on the hud?

cold relic
#

yes and no

#

officially you can't disable it entirely apart from some elements on the HUD

#

but there is a mod that does remove it completely

#

do note if you go the mod route, it will completely disable all progression from the game

jovial jasper
#

"modding isn't allowed in the lfg's/official server"

cold relic
#

that too

#

forgor about it :p

weary needle
#

my friend's game froze and now his sound doesn't work, is there a way to fix this?

pallid tangle
#

I had a problem when playing with friends. Whenever I hosted and tried to press "initiate cage drop" it wouldn't work and when my friend hosted, we got an infinite loading screen.

Solution: My friends VPN was what was causing the problem. Once he disabled it, we experienced no more issues. I'm posting this here so other people can find it.

hallow magnet
warm zodiac
hot epoch
#

Thats where you start singing that the host connection's shit

#

no offense

hallow magnet
cunning quiver
#

Having a weird issue where my game runs SEEMINGLY fine at 75 fps, but the second I change a graphics option to lower or higher I drop to 50 below. I have a Radeon RX 5500 XT and a Ryzen 5 3600 with 16 GB RAM. I'm not sure why this is happening, but it's a struggle to fix the poor performance on my rig when this keeps happening

regal prairie
#

wiggle that fov, apply, see if back to normal and fps back up

#

even just changing crouch toggle off/on and applying sometimes did this to me, same fix tho, fov <wigl>

glossy pilot
#

Hey, heres a long shot question: a buddy and me were doing the long id mission them 3/4s of the way the match crashed kicking me out and keeping him there in the frozen in time mode. Any way to recoup the loss of time or did we just lose hours of work

regal prairie
glossy pilot
#

fuck

regal prairie
#

i've successfully, recently, joined my own crashed lobby that my bro resumed playing, first connection failed but the second succeeded

glossy pilot
#

thanks though man

regal prairie
#

steam sometimes yeets lobbies as they restart servers or have malfunctions, in that case there will be no "join" button even with the lobby-code, u can't even "join game" from steam, nothing can be done in that case

#

tue-wed night for europe is catastrophic for gtfo as they have their maintenance window, if u get a steam popup saying "friends can watch your broadcast" <- steam has done the deed, hope u don't crash

glossy pilot
#

yeah, that happened

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around 11 cst

regal prairie
#

damn bad luck, but now u 2 know the level and the dangers, just forgetabaaaudit and restart, speedrun to where u crashed and resume

mighty cipher
#

my buddy crashed out during completion of the baby microwaving objective in r7b1 and can't rejoin, devs please fix

tawdry plover
#

I got a weird issue where for some reason my FPS immediately tanks from a few hundred down to less than 10 the second I open the game, and this crazy low fps sticks around for the whole game.
The game ran normally for me a few days ago when I last played, so this is baffling me. I tried a ton of different possible solutions and I've come up empty handed. Anyone here got a clue on how to fix this mess?

paper sable
regal prairie
tawdry plover
regal prairie
#

on mine it looked like the game switched to a software renderer for some reason,

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even changing toggle crouch did it, the black background in settings menu turned dark greyish and brightness went up, that was the sign

#

but i would try a gfx reset + reinstall, maybe shaders got borked or something... amd nvidia?

#

mine was/is nvidia

tawdry plover
#

yup, I'm on nvidia as well

regal prairie
#

uninstall, clear windows temp, do driver reinstall (full option), install game, launch...

tawdry plover
#

uninstall the geforce driver and the game?

regal prairie
#

game only, geforce just installer / experience the "reinstall full" option

#

when steam then launches, its gonna compile shaders for a bit, that should be good

tawdry plover
#

not too familiar with getting to the reinstall full option, I don't really touch geforce experience much outside of just updating drivers lol

regal prairie
#

i had to just weeks ago, gamestream went boom, drivers tab has the reinstall thing and u get dialogue with standard / full, full comes with warnings about settings defaulting

#

but helped me in that case

tawdry plover
#

alright thanks, gonna try this out and hope it fixes things

regal prairie
#

amd radeon has an advanced option to clear shader cache, that has helped many an amd head so far.. not so straightfwd w nvidia

tawdry plover
#

Oh I see

regal prairie
#

good luck, let us know and if no help, we have to <horatio> go deeper

tawdry plover
#

aight, much appreciated mate

tawdry plover
# regal prairie good luck, let us know and if no help, we have to <horatio> go deeper

Well I uninstalled the game and clear as many files in the temp folder as I could (some where in use for some reason)
Not sure if I did the reinstall correct since clicking it gave an express/custom installation option instead, but I chose the custom installation and ticked the box that said to reset options to default I think
Reinstalling the game and booting it up after all this still didn't work out unfortunately

regal prairie
#

hummm u have obs or valorant installed?

regal prairie
#

player.log where it inits the gfx can bring a clue too, maybe attempt letting gfe optimize.. or something..

red jetty
#

just bought the game and when i went to play through the tutorial, fps drops to like 5 even though i have a good pc and everywhere else i get well above 60 fps

red jetty
#

nvm, i fixed it myself after messing around with some other things

regal prairie
red jetty
#

yeah i got nvidia

regal prairie
#

kinda curious what fixed it for you, we get these questions a bunch

red jetty
#

right click on your monitor and go to nvidia control panel, go to manage 3D settings and add GTFO, now change the settings there on what you see fit, dont bother with this if you're certain your pc can run the game though (this did help me out), then after that i checked my driver, decided to re-installed it and that kinda just got rid of the problem all-together

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OH YEAH and v-sync was also a big part of the issue

#

so it might be an issue with your driver, re-install it, you dont even gotta restart your pc just do something else while it installs

regal prairie
#

solid, thanks very much .. i remember some vsync or target framerate related stuff way back when, worth a shot if this happens

mossy river
#

why does it take so long to match make

pine jetty
#

Anyone have a clue on the game just… closing. No crash message. The prisoner just gasps after a little unity loading and it closes the game.

mossy river
pine jetty
#

Task manager is empty

#

Currently trying a fresh install

mossy river
#

oh ok idk

pine jetty
#

SO I reinstalled, restarted my PC. It went for a bit longer but a unity loading popped up and the game closed

tawdry plover
pine jetty
#

Yeah I’m bouta snap. I tried deleting those two files that people say cause the problem. At this point I’m ready to call it quits

#

I don’t even see the first 5 seconds of the cutscene anymore

#

Yeah I can’t find anything else on the unity error. I’m ready to give up.

dry pumice
#

Guys i need your help im about ready to uninstall. I have a high end laptop and yet i open GTFO and everything is working fine. I get to the lobby and hit copy lobby ID. After that everything goes to shit

#

I alt tab out to go to discord app or the discord browser and everything crashes!

#

Does GTFO not work on WIndows11?

cold relic
#

On seriousness though, that sounds extremely weird and using Windows 11 should have nothing to do with it crashing

#

If anything you could try reading throughout the logs in %appdata%\..\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO\ and see if you find anything more specific regarding those crashes

dry pumice
cold relic
#

yikes

#

well, for the most part you will need to look for whatever is at the end of the file

pine jetty
#

My crash thing says stuff along the lines of "nvwgf2umx.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module nvwgf2umx.dll at 0033:4bf3d413."

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Well I think I found the problem. Guess my computer just doesnt have the memory to run it.

royal sonnet
#

so when I try to join a game I get this screen and I dont know what to do

cold relic
#

otherwise, if you don't trust it enough or something, try finding whatever program that DLL is linked to and try to stop it from running while the game boots

#

memory access violations are truly fun to troubleshoot

pine jetty
#

Not exactly sure how to run as admin, bringing up properties doesnt seem to show anything on it

thin heart
cold relic
#

ironically it's probably part of geforce experience rather than the base driver

#

I'll try to do some investigation about it, but reinstalling drivers is probably the better option in general

pine jetty
#

Its updated but idk

sly grotto
#

game crashing randomly mid run

Trying to do the third part of Alt rundown 1 and the game crashes at random points during the mission. Sometimes 30 mins into it and sometimes as soon as I get off the lift. I’ve tried updating all my graphics drivers, disabling specific graphics settings, and running the game in admin mode as I was told that these things might help but I’m still getting weird random crashes and it’s infuriating. I just got the game this week and I’ve been wanting to get into it for a while but now I can’t even make it past this level. I guess it was only a miracle that I was able to make it through the first two without seeing any crashes unless there is something specific in this one that is causing the crash.

Additionally I have tried verifying the game files via steam but that didn’t seem to help.

Looking for any advice or information that would help me. My pc setup is i7+Nvidia 2060RTX and it had been playing the game just fine.

digital dust
#

hey we are having an issue with one of our players they are new and when we try to start the round with them in it refuses to start when they leave its good to go and when they try to join midway all they see is the lobby pre game

regal prairie
dusky crow
#

so i just spent a good 4hrs of my life doing a prisoner efficiency on r7c2 and finished it but then got no rewards and its not complete... i am soo incredibly mad rn, i doubt there's anything i can do but is there anything?

mighty cipher
#

some types of qos can be made to work, I have messed around with my fq-codel settings and the game runs smooth now but I have no idea what the parameters mean

#

well at least I think I have some understanding but I can't verify it because no one has written a layman's guide

mighty cipher
#

hello! this is not about the game but about my friend! they got banned cuz her discord got compromised, and because of that, the account was sending scams. is it possible for anyone higher to unban her? since she was locked out for a week. She already fixed the issue 10 minutes ago. My apologies if <this wasn't for this channel, I just didn't know where to submit a ticket or whatever. Her discord is Ms. spookitty

zealous schooner
#

try dming @rose thicket

clear veldt
#

the recent fix for bots carrying items on ladders also broke them, now they won't carry anything at all if you are in combat

bleak rivet
#

Hi all, ran into a problem on the R7B1 "Cargo". It is at this location notice unstable framerate, as well as the constant crashes after the death of the squad. Who knows how to fix it?

scenic sail
#

We're having a weird bug in our game. One member is totally fine until a security door or screamer wave starts. As soon as that happens, the security holograms freeze, he can't see any of the new locations. The enemies spawn and start moving, but after a few of them spawn they all just freeze and stand in place. He also cannot die during this bug. Mission is R1D1.

#

Update, it also triggers outside alarms and scout swarms. The trigger seems to be number of active enemies

somber mountain
#

that's a desync moment if i ever saw one

mighty cipher
#

ok this bug is transferring through different hosts, people keep getting one shot from 90% health with no nearby enemy's and enemy's are awake even when the doors are closed

#

this is the same for all doors

#

just restarted the game same issue is occuring

#

downed from 60%

#

one shooter

somber mountain
mighty cipher
#

ik the wemod shit but the problem is happening to one person not to all

#

that is the difference

sullen sluice
#

it might be a person in the lobby because i met a guy that had mods and they worked even when he wasn't hosting

mighty cipher
#

i should say this a bunch of rando's

#

ok they left

distant mango
#

Just bought the game and lunched it having audio cut in and out constantly tested audio on Spotify works fine so its the game restarted already suggestions

#

already tried reinstalling and verifying files

swift iron
#

how can i rejoin my buddy after i crashed? i got the lobby id but dont know where to enter it

vale nova
swift iron
#

not there, not sure i got the right ID. I got it in the log, "DoJoinLobby [ID]" was where i copied it from

vale nova
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ask your buddy for it

swift iron
#

where is it for him?

vale nova
#

he can find it in the settings, if he moves his mouse top right a red button appears

swift iron
#

he sent me his lobby ID and i copied it but i still dont get the button

vale nova
#

dont know how it is with multiple rundowns in place, maybe you have to be in the correct runndown, or the rundown overview

swift iron
#

checked through every menu, cant find it

vale nova
vale nova
#

did you download the update? and your m8 maybe not?

swift iron
#

it downloaded something after i crashed, thats most likely it, is it possible for him to download it without loosing the run?

vale nova
swift iron
#

welp F i guess

dusk tiger
#

Something's wrong. I tried to play with a couple of people but something's busted. At first everything lagged super hard with monsters remaining stuck after death. Now I can't even join lobbies and any attempts to do so lead me to the screen lagging and sound cutting out.

Net's fine since I can play other games like GTA Online without issue, and when I played with just one other person before there was no delay.

dusk tiger
#

No, friend is. Same as before when there were no issues.

somber mountain
#

what level did you guy play?

distant mango
#

Just bought the game and lunched it having audio cut in and out constantly tested audio on Spotify works fine so its the game restarted already suggestions
already tried reinstalling and verifying files

proven monolith
#

This just could be a me being confused thing but is it meant to ping here? Because I can't seem to figure out what to do since there is nothing there

vale nova
proven monolith
#

Ohhh okay that makes sense, thank you!

dusk tiger
sinful wind
#

The matchmaking takes to long to find other players

warm zodiac
solemn furnace
#

Is there a reason for me lagging with one specific person? I play with a bunch of other people, but I only lag when I play with him as a host or he lag when I am the host.

somber mountain
#

the game is peer to peer

solemn furnace
#

Does that mean one of us have internet issue?

somber mountain
#

yes

#

either internet issue, or you guys are too far away

solemn furnace
#

Is it possible to use vpn to reduce the lag?

#

cuzz so far, as long as anyone else host the lobby, we dont have this issue

#

it seems to only be an issue between us 2

somber mountain
#

using vpn might mess with the game or steam

solemn furnace
#

any there any fix you can suggest? or do we just have to find someone else to host the lobby?

somber mountain
#

someone else host

solemn furnace
#

aight

neat mantle
#

Unity crashes while loading the level. Everytime.

hallow finch
#

Hi,

I'm new. Tried playing with my friend. When I try to host a game we get ready. I hold the initiate cage drop button and nothing happens. Now when my friend hosts the lobby the game starts but were in an infinite loop and the mission never starts. Any ideas what's going on? When I start a game alone it works fine.

sharp seal
#

Trying to matchmake with my friend, he keeps disappearing and joined into a match with some players yet it just leaves me in the matchmake screen

frank sail
#

Hello I'm getting a new "CLCTR multithread processor activated" title on my rundown selection screen. I don't think it was there before last update (02-11) or I've never noticed before. Haven't changed anything on my PC, what is it?

regal prairie
frank sail
onyx dome
#

Hi my friend is having a difficult time starting the game. As soon as he gets to the loading cortex screen, his game will freeze and will make him Alt-F4. Furthermore, he has deleted and redownloaded the game multiple times but still has the same issue. What should he do for this error?

upper musk
#

hey guys, my friend is having an issue loading into the game. He's getting to this screen and getting stuck, it won't load past it. Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so, how did you resolve it?

torn vine
#

hi guys, was playing R7 B2 and when we got to the correct terminal

#

there was no uplink address

hasty raft
#

I love when UI just displays the stuff telling it to display instead of what it's supposed to
like <place_text_here>

tough crypt
#

That ping from the Hackett player, that's from a mod? If so the first line of support would be don't use mods/check that it isn't the mod affecting the game in that way first.

odd juniper
#

Is there a way to show FPS counter in game?

somber mountain
#

yes

#

it's in the setting

odd juniper
#

Yeah, I found it. I'm blind as a bat apparently

#

Thanks for the answer nonetheless

violet ledge
#

anyone got extreme game lag at R7B3
like most lv got 150-160fps that lv like 30fps below and really high latency

unborn basalt
#

my settings are not saving when i change them, i hold to save them but it doesnt work, also i cannot choose my loadout on the lobby screen

#

any ideas?

unreal cave
violet ledge
#

host player ? Aggressive_Artifact

night tide
#

Would anybody know why my friend character just stops every so often when walking?

zealous schooner
#

legs get tired

regal prairie
dry mulch
#

How do I change Gamepad Mapping in Settings, all it does is highlight the options? Is it bugged?

bleak rivet
#

Hi all, ran into a problem on the R7B1 "Cargo". It is at this location notice unstable framerate, as well as the constant crashes after the death of the squad. Who knows how to fix it?

hasty raft
#

join 10CC and bug fix the game PirateSimon

honest cargo
#

bots getting stuck on this ledge in r7b1 by the collections box 😆

mighty cipher
#

technically, disabling windows services that aint needed gives better performance, see that number? whats yours?

vale nova
#

Good luck finding the Services you dont need 😉

hasty raft
#

such a weird flex when Linux exists

lethal hinge
#

Hi guys, I just downloaded the game and can only start it once. After quitting the game I can not launch it again - it freezes on the screen with the epilepsy warning.
Deleting the "10 Chambers Collective" folder under "%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow" makes it relaunch but that should not be an permanent option as it deletes my settings.
Any fix or help for that?

regal prairie
mighty cipher
#

waste of performance.

mighty cipher
peak moat
#

hey ive been getting an issue where sometimes the games fps drops to 10 fps either at the start of the game or midway and sometimes when i open the map the game then drops frames and never recovers, this issue started after my 4th game and now happens pretty frequently. Ive tried lowering everything but the problem persists i think i might have a memory leak issue. any help would be really appreciated

pseudo wind
#

R7C1: dropped cells before checkpoint, after reload our hands are busy with cells and we can't drop them. Is there any way to fix it without recreating the lobby?

quaint vault
#

What? Cells in r1?

hasty raft
#

Cortana is built deep in and disabling that will hinder so many reasons to use Windows

#

and hitting "don't use location data" does not mean it will actually do said thing

zealous beacon
#

Does anyone have a link to the mod that removes this ghosting effect? It hurts my eyes a lot

somber mountain
#

well, you should ask that in modding server

#

.t modding

rose thicketBOT
#

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

zealous beacon
#

thanks

round wigeon
#

I am attempting to set up an Azeron game pad for GTFO. I have one analog joystick that I want to set up for character movement. I'm having a lot of trouble trying to get it to move similar to WASD. Any suggestions?

#

FWIW if someone finds this, you have to use the keyboard joystick setting in their software to get anything close to keyboard control it seems. The game doesn't seem to like the joystick as an Xbox 360 joystick.

cold relic
zealous beacon
#

that's annoying.

#

guess I'll just deal with it then

robust island
#

Me and a friend just bought the game and finished R1A1 twice. We got the expedition survived screen but when we look at our Rundown tab it says it's "Not completed".

#

The other levels won't unlock because of this too.

warm zealot
#

Or you have an "old" version? 👀

robust island
#

No, I recently purchased it and it's up to date

#

We fixed it by just restarting our games and having my friend host.

warm zealot
#

Otherwise well...... GTFO do be GTFO

robust island
#

I had previously been running Hamachi to play some games with a friend, but I had it switched off by the time I played GTFO. Friend might have still been running his Hamachi tho.

warm zealot
#

Well as long as it works now 👍

robust island
#

Yeah. Thanks for the help anyway. We enjoyed our first 2 man clear of R1A1 today.

sinful flicker
stiff wolf
#

Is there an option to report a player?

#

This dude called f or whatever it is, is jumping from lobby to lobby starting a game and killing players at the start of the game and he uses cheats full auto unlimited ammo shotgun to be exact. Im not even bothered by the cheats as much but he wont let ppl play. Any suggestions?

regal prairie
potent plume
#

My friends and I cannot seem to initiate a match and we aren't sure why.

regal prairie
slender silo
#

Not necessarily tech support but was wondering how to unlock the other rundowns?? I only have 1 and 7

dire ginkgo
#

You can't. It's not ready.

slender silo
#

Aw okay, but it is a plan in progress.

modern venture
#

Dear people, i wanna know whats the problem in my game because everytime i play them and suddenly they arent syncing????

somber mountain
#

game is peer 2 peer

#

so if you play with someone else and not host, it could mean your internet or the host internet is bad

ember elk
#

was having issues in R7D1 with the terminals at the end. Does the terminals require a different command than what is shown on screen?

somber mountain
#

you need to go for side terminal and then go for main terminal

fallow lance
#

im on a vpn to play the game cus im in china but im hav trouble connecting to the game

junior linden
neat falcon
#

I started playing the game last night with some friends and noticed there were times that enemies would stop for some of us for 4-6 seconds (normally during big fights) and take no damage then everything catches up very quickly.

We tried switching hosts between us but no luck for the ones who joined the hosts game. Is there any settings or changes that would be recommended?

warm zealot
neat falcon
warm zealot
grave girder
#

So during R7D1, I was hosting the lobby and near the end I got kicked out of the map and sent back to the Rundown screen, I can't rejoin and there's one person that the host migrated to, but everyone else got disconnected as well. Any reason that it happened?

past jasper
past jasper
#

at midnight approximatly

sleek forge
#

hey guys i keep getting stuck at the "waiting for system assets to initialize..." is this normal?

hasty raft
#

not normal

#

try going into steam settings and verify the game's files

zealous schooner
#

the game is an imposter

#

sussy sussy sussy

mighty cipher
#

hello, when I copy a lobby invite code to clipboard it does not show up in game

zealous schooner
#

when you copy a lobby id it gives you the prompt to join said lobby on the rundown tab

hasty raft
#

yeah wrong menu

hot epoch
#

it will show on the left side on the rundown menu, not in lobby

analog relic
#

got a "unity crash" today CatJam

ashen ember
odd surge
#

hey im having a bit of trouble with my game. Im trying to do the R1B1 but every time i play it at some random point my game freezes/crashes. I dont have any overclocking on. Ive updated my drivers and just deleted the "10 chambers collective" folder/uninstalled the game. Am i safe to reinstall now?

#

(only thing i havent done is "fix" the in-game settings by turning v sync and anti-aliasing)

flat ruin
#

60 minutes wasted, host got stuck 👍

median crown
#

maybe the host can disconnect, pass the host to someone else, put a bot in their place and connect again?
i could be awfully wrong here and might need the comfirmation but i think that worked sometimes

somber mountain
#

host migration might be a blessing and a curse

odd surge
#

is this just an issue with R1B1&2 or is this with the whole game

#

?

somber mountain
#

feel like it's just you

#

Rundown 1 was super optimize

zealous schooner
#

the most optimized unity game

ancient girder
#

I run 2080 with 12700k cpu, but still have 50 ish frame rate in game(Yes R7D1). Is there any way to improve the performance? Below is my graphic setting

drowsy tapir
#

Here are my settings (ryzen 3 1200 and rx 580 8gb) runs great though havent gotten to R7D1

scenic marsh
#

friend stuck on waiting for system assets to initialize

odd surge
# odd surge hey im having a bit of trouble with my game. Im trying to do the R1B1 but every ...

Update:
I've done everything I possibly could. I've even torn open my pc to thoroughly clean and realign my ram sticks so that they're both put in A channel, (weren't like that before that's on me). I've gone through everything to now the game not being able to launch; it just crashes as soon as I press play. I have given it admin rights, I've even updated security protocols on the game in the compatibility tab. I have no idea what else to do

#

Note:
All my other games are working just fine, it's literally just this game and I've verified files and uninstalled/reinstalled like a hundred times at this point

mighty cipher
#

Question for y'all peeps out there
is it just me, or does matchmaking queues take incredibly long? Perhaps my PC has some connection issues
(yes, i know that discord is a better and more active way to get people to play with you.. but still, some casual GTFO is good sometimes)
I have tried matchmaking on "all expeditions" with my computer and getting lobbies every 20-40 minutes
This does not happen on my other PC though.. it is usually 3-7 minutes of waiting (during the same time and day of the week)
does anyone else have this issue, or is it just the matchmaking being bad at times? I'm from western Europe

drowsy tapir
somber mountain
#

people on steam forum ask for MM so they can justify their buy but then they didn't

vivid valve
#

So this is the second time GTFO has crashed on me in 2 days mid mission, is there anything this error log can tell me or somewhere I can give it to the devs?

hasty raft
mighty cipher
#

Having discord open while running gtfo consumes a lot of RAM to me
stop asking me to use it

hasty raft
#

idk sounds like a skill issue if you can't afford 16GB of RAM

glass ingot
#

Oh okay then

mighty cipher
#

fix the game, please. that's all i'm gonna say.

somber mountain
#

bug happen
Now fix

candid gyro
#

Hey new here, I've been trying to play on control since I'm a console gamer but the controller supports has been really janky is there anything I can do or will it be resolved I'm an update eventually

hasty raft
#

updates? I haven't heard that name in ages PirateSimon

cold relic
#

use steam input to bind your controller to keyboard inputs

#

make macros for certain actions

#

etc etc

#

think I sent a relatively decent profile a long time ago, might be a bit outdated

quaint vault
#

What do you do if the host gets the checkpoint bug? They didn't have a cell in their hands but i could see one floating behind them and they couldn't interact with anything you had to hold to use

fallen vessel
#

Just started up my game but then: "ERRO3: unauthorized system override detected. - Waiting for system assets to initialize.." What did I do wrong? #gtfo-technical-support

glass ingot
vast heart
#

The game just funni like that

unreal portal
#

gtfo stops responding after launching

hasty raft
#

the game is quirky like that

somber mountain
#

you press waiting for response and wait for it to response
Worked on my machine

bold mountain
fierce meadow
#

I have a question related to game crashes. does the game collect what it needs or should i fill out something manually? And if so where do i report bugs?

buoyant wigeon
#

wait so how do i get the event stuff? i completed an expedition

warm zealot
buoyant wigeon
#

i checked the palette and i dont have it

#

and how do i check if its the latest version?

#

yeah it is latest version

warm zealot
buoyant wigeon
#

well i completed the first expedition

#

the A1

buoyant wigeon
#

oh wait

#

i have the onyx corruption color

#

yeah i got it

warm zealot
buoyant wigeon
#

Thx

low wigeon
#

Is anything being done about the buggy matchmaking and hackers? Been an issue for years now...

warm zealot
hasty raft
#

until they add kicking for the host
just use the LFG channels in this discord server

brave hamlet
#

good day! my friends and i can't join each other. when we make lobbies and try to join, it'll start the joining sequence but we're just gonna get thrown back to the expedition selection screen. just recently, one was able to join but his character is duplicated in my screen. we both try to get ready, no cage drop happens. is there a way to fix this? been like this for a while now.

brave hamlet
#

reinstalling seem to have fixed it, server sync is still ass though. sometimes, we can't interact.

sonic sierra
#

Something isn't right with this picture 🤔 ]

warm zodiac
sonic sierra
fluid wing
#

yea i did r1a1 like a week back and now it says i haven't done it ;-;

willow plinth
#

wat

#

Is progress for missions being lost?

dull yarrow
#

guys i can't use terminal. when I approach it there is no use button. I already used it before and then it bugged

open lynx
#

hey game crsashed 2 time when i tried to enter it, below its my specs, what are the minimum requirements?

warm plinth
#

Hi, My game is continuously crashing right at the beginning of the game loading. I get an end process issue... My computer definitely exceeds the requirements and I have followed a ton of information that I found online and still doesn't work.

#

any suggestions?

lean crag
#

Hey my friend is joining, but when he does, he can only see other party members, not himself or the host. It also will not let us play and he will not show up for our other team members. What should we do? Tried restarting the game for everyone a couple of times, but nothing has worked?

regal prairie
echo crow
#

didn't get Onyx Corruption after beating R1A1

frosty leaf
#

Yeah I also just did two different levels and didn't get Onyx Corruption

covert tree
#

quick question

#

my friends and I were playing R1B1 and we were at the exfil zone when we all suddenly just, blew up and died?

#

we didn't have any mines put down so im really curious as to what might have happened

#

anyone have any idea?

somber mountain
#

do you have a vid?

covert tree
#

unfortunatly not

somber mountain
#

if you're in exfil zone, then your friend could have done a little trolling and it become a fail?

covert tree
#

maybe but i doubt it

#

it looked like when you die from standing too close to a detonating mine except we didn't have any

#

we all died at the same time

somber mountain
#

because to have explosion, the game need to spawn in a mines which can only be put down by a PLAYER

covert tree
#

Yeah thats why Im confused

somber mountain
#

so ye, it can only be done by a player

covert tree
#

huh

somber mountain
#

that's all i can say

covert tree
#

interesting

#

welp thanks for your help

mighty cipher
#

yo i keep gettin audio cuts, anyone have any solutions?

somber mountain
#

open map or press esc once

pseudo steppe
warm zealot
hasty raft
#

I'm quite curious if most of the completion complains are from people pirating the game SantonianWhatElse

thin heart
covert tree
warm zealot
covert tree
#

Thanks for the tip, I asked them and I’ll get back with an answer once they wake up

hollow marten
#

it normal it looks like this?

#

its like that with basically everything on screen

warm zealot
proud sequoia
#

I never received the onyx palette despite completing 3 expeditions throughout both R1 and R7.

hasty raft
#

it ended yesterday

gray yarrow
#

Anyone else experiencing unusual amounts of desynchronization during the R7 maps? All party-members have tried hosting, but a desync inevitably occurs. We're all on solid fiber. Can a single peer (not hosting) with connectivity-issues desync the game for everyone?

mighty cipher
gray yarrow
#

I don't know if I would qualify it as lag, though it would make sense if we are talking about a minute delay. Mobs are not showing to some, scan-circles do not display etc.

#

Sometimes it's a bit more breezy, where pickups and melee has 2-3 sec delays.

mighty cipher
#

And that never happened during R1 runs?

gray yarrow
#

Happened there too, just not anywhere near as frequent.

mighty cipher
#

wonky connection might also just mean latency or packet loss issues from time to time

gray yarrow
#

As I say, all party-members tried hosting. We all have high-end computers and are placed on 150mbs lines.

mighty cipher
#

are you from western europe?

gray yarrow
#

What I don't know is whether the peer-to-peer design would break if a non-host player has connectivity issues.

#

Yep.

proud sequoia
warm zealot
proud sequoia
lilac vector
#

yo

#

me and my firends have been trying to play but every time we try to get to a party always one of us cant get in then when we duo and get in a squad we cant start the mission

covert tree
#

Alr so update on the sudden death scenario

#

my friends and I (3 stack) completed R1B1 without all of us dying of a heart attack

#

i was the only one this time

#

like a milisecond before the extraction timer was up i just kinda keeled over and died

mighty cipher
#

If you all die at the end either someone mined and blew that up or you just shot each other

#

Or something else

covert tree
#

The first time I doubt it could’ve been trolling

covert tree
quaint vault
#

anyone seen guys spawning inside the room with you in r7c3?

hasty raft
#

that can happen under certain circumstances

warm zealot
quaint vault
#

Pretty sure none of us were that far from each other
We were getting a couple waves spawning up the stairs from a couple rooms into 169, and then midway through killing that wave another would spawn on top of us, with all of us only being 2 rooms max further in

#

Potentially worth noting is it started happening soon after we had a glitched striker, was apparently dead (wasn't on bio) but it was standing there in the doorway chillin

#

Also wouldn't be shocked if it was some checkpoint issue or something

pallid gust
#

Is it a thing now where when you launch the game, it just crashes at [WARNING 7.0 MANUAL OVERRIDE DETECTED]

#

Whenever I inject it also auto-crashes

regal prairie
vale kiln
#

me and my friend r trying to connect to multiplayer currently and whenever we connect into each others lobby the host can see me but i cant see them and can only see myself and we cant load into the game, we've tried restarting steam and stuff it hasnt seemed to work yet

vale kiln
#

nvm we figured it out

final osprey
#

on a high-spec system should i knock 'max render queue frames' to 0 or leave it at 1?

somber mountain
#

2 - 3

main crane
#

does anyone have a fix for why i cant join my friends lobby? we've just got the game and whenever we go to join eachothers lobbys it says 'waiting for master' then eventually stops trying to join

main crane
#

My friend seems to have the problem on his end. He cant matchmake or join my lobby and i cant join his, and ideas?

warm zealot
burnt nest
#

Im the one having issues connecting.. Game is legit, no vpn active, Upnp is enabled in router settings, firewall is disabled, verified integrity of game cache, restarted multiple times and internet is okay. Still getting waiting for master for 10 secs then nothing :/

warm zealot
#

And how far from each other do you guys live? VPN needs to be off on all players. Just in case

burnt nest
#

like 5 mins away from each other, ill try deleting... deleted the setting txt earlier n nothing happened

burnt nest
#

yeah still nothing

pure breach
#

got snatched on d1 and came here

zealous schooner
#

d1 is known for that
best option is to not play d1

thorny sail
#

Hello, my friend and I are trying to play R1B2 just the two of us and won't let us load in. We are in lobby and when we are both ready and I hit the drop button is doesn't work.. This has happen before in R1A1 and I validated my files and he reinstalled and we are still have the issue. We came back an hour later then it worked. Does anyone know how to fix this issue?

willow moon
#

I've got a really weird crashing issue on R1B1, a few seconds after the intro drop starts My PC hard crashes with no BSOD and enters a state where the PC is running without having turned off at all, no peripherals are on and the monitors receive no signal. Happens in MP and SP.

CPU: R9 5950X
GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX 3090
(Driver 526.98) Currently updating this to check if that's the issue but it seems unlikely.

willow moon
willow moon
hasty raft
#

oh I was about to comment it sounded like a driver issue 🤔

#

quite strange since you have high end hardware

unborn crescent
#

Anybody facing a "cannot set resolution" issue? The game starts to a blank screen and a window pops up saying cannot set resolution

#

The exact message:

Switching to resolution 1920x1080 failed
Screen: DX11 could not switch resolution (1920x1080 fs=1 hz=0)
unborn crescent
mighty cipher
#

I'll admit that it's bizzare if GTFO is the only game where you get that

pallid gust
willow moon
stable inlet
#

я единственный русский (

main crane
#

any reason we can't find the hydrostasis unit in the zone it says it is in? we've looked all over after pinging

wicked sky
#

Does anyone ever have a problem when a player join midway? I had a friend join midway and the game completely broke after a while, kept kicking people out of the lobby, I couldn't interact with resources, couldn't trigger alarm doors, didn't even take fall damage. Is this a known bug for joining mid level? 😅

cold relic
#

yes and no

#

Some levels apparently suffer a bit more bugs when users join mid game

#

And sometimes it's events, like fog rising, that are bugged entirely

mighty cipher
#

just have 1 guy pinging it from the terminal and the other search for it

wicked sky
#

Hopefully that eventually gets fixed marzzCozy Ik devs are probably really busy doing other stuff rn 😅

pure dirge
#

hello

#

so.. we died and respawned like this

#

i cant put this thing down

#

this is lvl r7b1

tough valve
willow saffron
#

that specific room is super buggy for some reason

tough valve
#

like no i would love to know

pure dirge
main vault
#

I can't pick the HSU too

willow saffron
#

i have not played it once without atleast one bug happening

tough valve
pure dirge
#

i cant drop it

tough valve
#

not*

#

OK SO

pure dirge
tough valve
#

but how?

#

your not suppose to use the checkpoint before putting it in

pure dirge
#

i have no idea

tough valve
#

YOU CAN'T USE IT 10CC WTF

main vault
#

we died and respawned there with this thing on our hands

tough valve
#

ANYWAY HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

willow saffron
#

it shows it was already put in in the screenshot

tough valve
#

try to reconnect like exit out of the game and reconnect

pure dirge
#

my c foam launcher is not working properly too

tough valve
#

if it doesn't work sorry to say you are stuck like

#

that i suggest just restarting

main vault
#

fair

tough valve
#

yeah i suggest restarting the lobby and whole game for all players

#

it fixes it, its stupid i know

pure dirge
tough valve
#

restart the level

pure dirge
#

ooh

tough valve
#

start from the beginning its much easier trust me

pure dirge
#

uuuh :(

tough valve
#

the pain is small

#

you know how the level goes

pure dirge
#

also

tough valve
#

yes?

pure dirge
#

when i shoot my c foam launcher into the sleepers they dont get stuck

#

am i bugged?

#

or i just dont know how to work with this?

tough valve
#

cfoam is mostly for doors

pure dirge
#

ooooh

tough valve
#

they reinforce the door when the door is capped with cfoam it has an animation

pure dirge
#

so, when i cfoam a door, sleepers cant break it?

tough valve
#

no they take longer to break

#

its like a second health bar

#

you give the doors a second phase

median crown
#

cfoam can be used on sleepers tho, when they just absorb it w/o animation means they need more to get frozen

tough valve
#

you can still cfoam strikers just throw the cfoam on the ground and all the enemies have a certain cfoam need

median crown
#

also the solution for being stuck with a carry object is usually disconnect [or the player stuck disconnects], put a bot in their place, wipe, restart and connect again, then the object should be on the floor
its long, and a bit annoyin, but id it takes way longer to get to that part might be useful
idk if it fixes it every time or just once tho

#

idk if its a 100% fix every time neither

tough valve
#

@pure dirge hope we been useful

pure dirge
#

i tried disconecting, my game just bugged xD

median crown
#

yeah all enemies have a certain like, amount of cfoam that needs to be applied to be frozen

#

so if u shoot one blob at em, its just gonna absorb it

median crown
pure dirge
#

didnt even know i could reconnect

pure dirge
#

xD

median crown
#

its kinda funny

tough valve
#

warden knows how magic works don't worry

pure dirge
#

i will try that

median crown
#

ok good luck on ur next run

pure dirge
#

thank you for the help!!!

cloud bluff
#

My game is using 100% of my gpu

#

and idk why, it jumps from 60fps to 5fps

cloud bluff
#

I did everything to make it work (note I have played this before) I even updated my drivers and it still does that

warm zealot
cloud bluff
#

well it runs completely fine at about 36% at 60 frames, but when it hits 100% my frames drop to shit

wicked sky
# pure dirge so.. we died and respawned like this

Oh I got this bug so many times when the map requires carrying stuff! Idk if you're still doing the level, but for my group we figured if we do the checkpoint not holding anything the bug seems to happen a bit less 😅

cloud bluff
#

I ended up redL the game

warm zealot
#

If you say it has utilisation at 36% tho beforehand then there might be a bottleneck

#

Also you say you have 60. Do you keep it capped?

unkempt imp
#

Headsup, this channel will be closed in a couple of hours, and replaced with a forum channel instead to make it easier to share knowledge.

hasty raft
#

I'm the last message PirateSimon

unkempt imp
#

No

mild nacelle
#

i am

unkempt imp
#

False

warm zodiac
#

I'll be the last even though I never talk in this channel

wraith cradle
#

No

warm zodiac
#

Yes

placid plume
#

Cool

hasty raft
warm zodiac
#

I'll be the last

dense panther
#

no

warm zodiac
#

YES

calm hill
#

is there any reason i cant initiate drop with all people readied up. I just cant drop withmy friend who just bought game specifically

regal prairie
calm hill
#

ty for answer I shall try that

vocal knoll
#

help

willow plinth
#

Bubba is not Readied up

red hemlock
#

maybe exit expediton?

vocal knoll
red hemlock
#

how we ready

vocal knoll
#

this game was scam

red hemlock
#

lets get refund

willow plinth
#

click and hold on the red button to ready

vocal knoll
#

WHAT RED BUTTON

#

there is none

willow plinth
#

on the bottom of the screeen

#

there is a bit of a red button

#

move your mouse down

empty python
willow plinth
#

I'll take a screenshot

vocal knoll
#

ohhh thanks

empty python
#

bubba needs to press that first then you can press it

vocal knoll
#

we press it and it doesnt work

willow plinth
#

bubba needs to press and hold theirs down firsty

vocal knoll
#

bubba fell asleep

#

OUT OF BOREDOM

willow plinth
#

the red "Not Ready" above their head will become a white "Ready"

vocal knoll
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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wwhats happening

red hemlock
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i thought we finally got it

vocal knoll
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@rose thicket

red hemlock
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is this bug

vocal knoll
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<@&408548765599793173>

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<@&413248043215749121>

empty python
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bubba can you send a screenshot of your screen

red hemlock
vocal knoll
red hemlock
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why isnt it starting

vocal knoll
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we stuck

empty python
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it is

vocal knoll
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we camt play

empty python
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its a cutscene

red hemlock
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i think we're stuck help

vocal knoll
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ohhhh

red hemlock
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ok

vocal knoll
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OH

regal prairie
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have fun guys

vocal knoll
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too many monsters

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we cnat progress

red hemlock
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this game unfair hard

regal prairie
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keep yo guns at bay, crouch creep behind em an don't move if they pulse or glow yellow

vocal knoll
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why

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me and bub used guns, it worked

regal prairie
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get right behind em, select 1 hammer knife spear bat whatever u have.. charge it left mouse until full, release..

red hemlock
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RJGFP

vocal knoll
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HELP THEY'RE OVERRUNNING US

red hemlock
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HELP'

vocal knoll
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SUPPLIES LOW

red hemlock
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I THINK IM DOWN

vocal knoll
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MORALE LOW

regal prairie
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.. guns work fine until outta ammo, and that's fast 🙂

vocal knoll
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WE RUN OUT

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ALL WE HAVE NOW IS MY BIOTRACKER AND OUR WITS

regal prairie
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anyway tech support got u guys into the game, now have fun your own way

vocal knoll
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this scared us, is this a horror game

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@regal prairie recommendations?

regal prairie
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play game, have fun, try stealth if u wanna

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read mission parameters, try do what u need to do, use the terminals to find what u need to find etc. saul goodman.

red hemlock