general

[amber cobalt]

Not really it has exact charge speed as hammer so

[rough ermine]

Yeah, but it cucks your move speed

If you have 4 men stealthing and one Person is on spear, He will Just stagger behind because He is Just slower

In a setting where you are 100% couching everywhere, increased reach is barely a Factor since you have all the time in a world to get closer with other melees

[amber cobalt]

Reach doesn't really matter except scouts but spear has the most damage so that helps out with mostly giant enemies

That's what I lit only use spear for

If there is too many giants or hybrids

I just normally pick hammer so

[pale valve]

Scouts it really doesn’t matter for, spear does also NOT have the most dmg

Hammer has highest dmg

[amber cobalt]

With prec damage it deals most

[pale valve]

Yea that’s ONE hit

[amber cobalt]

And with that one hit it takes way less to kill a giant

And giant shooters and hybrids keep it until they die making it way easier

[pale valve]

Team stealthing giants is a non issue for hammer/spear

Giant shooters and hybrids its giga non issue

You can easily stealth both of them with knife

[amber cobalt]

I didn't say you can't do those with knife it just makes it way easier to do with spear or hammer

If you sweat enough like idk d4rk with 3k hours

[pale valve]

I’d say its easier with knife for stealthing specifically big chickens and hybrids

[amber cobalt]

You can do anything with knife

[pale valve]

Big chickens you just limb break

And hybrids you bait meleee

And with the charge time being low its kinda easier

[rough ermine]

Whats the Point in Higher damage If it doesnt Change Breakpoints. On a Giant it doesnt Matter, on Chicken and Hybrids its fine since the Second hit doesnt need to be a occi

If you really want a melee that is actually good on Giants, Just Take the bat

[brave mantle]

Or just be cool and take knife and have host cull

[amber cobalt]

We mostly take everything x1

Or 2 hammers a bat and a knife

[rough ermine]

You can Take whatever you want. You can Beat every Mission with the Assault Rifle, but it doesnt mean its good

[amber cobalt]

True

I know that spear is the worst meele but it won't make the game really harder so

But ofc meta is just bring 4 hammers

Giga stagger giga dmg and can sprint so

[rough ermine]

Giga stagger was nerfed 🥀

[pale valve]

”Won’t make the game really harder” tell that to the error you want to melee and not waste ammo in

[amber cobalt]

That's exactly what I said

If it's an error mission

Take a knife

If it's a giant mission

You take spear

Knife really feels like it's made for errors

[brave mantle]

I in fact don’t take spear 🥀

[pale valve]

Didn’t Eva or someone want to force you to take spear in some speed?

[brave mantle]

Erm

I can’t remember

[pale valve]

@zealous matrix @half dune think it was one of you

[zealous matrix]

It was a meme r5c1 idea

[zealous matrix]

Hammer*

[zealous matrix]

Not being able to sprint
Needing dmg multis to kill strikers
Awful hitbox for crawling enemies

[pale valve]

Picking spear is like picking MG

;p

[zealous matrix]

Eh

[graceful nymph]

Spear is the best melee this is slander

[amber cobalt]

I did say it's the worst bruh

[quartz nebula]

yes

this is horrendous slander

[pale valve]

They hated Jesus because he told the truth

[zealous matrix]

You also said it wont make the game harder

Which it does. And not just because of the worse dmg breakpoint (which is basically everything in guns that isnt S tier anyway)

[pale valve]

Stev misinfo as always

[amber cobalt]

I guess it does make it harder but would you genuinely loose a game just by picking spear instead of hammer

[pale valve]

You said ”won’t make the game really harder” which can be interpreted as ”won’t really make the game harder”, do you mean making it harder or making it a lot more harder?

[amber cobalt]

Would playing short rifle instead of scatter make the game harder?

The weapon itself is not bad it's just there is another option that just plays the game for you

Same with spear to hammer

[pale valve]

That was not what I asked

[amber cobalt]

It technically makes the game harder but you won't fundamentally struggle just by taking a single item

[pale valve]

Idk about this statement tbh

Put your squad on machine pistol HAR and tell us when you beat the game

[amber cobalt]

I meant for spear

Machine pistol HAR I get cuz

Devs didn't balance this game properly

[pale valve]

You’re gonna struggle on levels where you need to be ammo efficient and gonna have to be quick

[graceful nymph]

you just have to be good enough

[fiery cloak]

greatest at something thats for sure

[mellow badger]

its saturday

[scenic ginkgo]

It's Sunday

A marvelous Sunday

[mellow badger]

Well now it is

[mellow badger]

Someday holiday everyday

[amber solar]

whats a long time

yes new cosmetics

uhhh maybe one or two but not many

[blazing nacelle]

Salutations

[amber solar]

heelloess

[blazing nacelle]

Any one down to play in a few minutes

I just got the game yesterday looking for people to play with

[amber solar]

u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies, the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
make sure to do the tutorial and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the simplest/easiests ones

[blazing nacelle]

I did the tutorial I’ve been playing single player with the bots. And did you say ask “not” to be carried?

[amber solar]

yeh cuz some people tend to carry umprompted

but learning is cool on this game

[blazing nacelle]

Copy

[grim junco]

Hi can someone carry me R1E1?

[kind hedge]

too lazy to do 18 wave reactor

[amber solar]

never ask for churchs chicken gamers

[winged rock]

the level with shadow pablo?? no thanks too scary

[maiden vale]

R1Z1 antarctica server

[untold dock]

Hello

[fiery cloak]

hello

[timber nimbus]

sup

[amber solar]

omg arent u that streamer

taking over the internet

[timber nimbus]

god I wish I was that cool

[amber solar]

he was so unmedicated we had to take it up with his fucking therapist

kmsdkms

[timber nimbus]

he was awesome........ rhat astronaut helmet really tied it all together

[amber solar]

pure fire

[empty terrace]

Is there still a playerbase for this game? I was thinking buying it but wanted to make sure people still play it seeing as it’s a co op game

[worldly pelican]

i mean yeah

https://steamdb.info/app/493520/charts/

[graceful nymph]

No. Only speedrunners and goons

[half hull]

I guess I'm a goon XD

[pale valve]

Gooner*

We all goon here

[quiet veldt]

go back to gtfo chat moth you dont belong here

[pale valve]

True

[wooden wing]

If you buy you can play r4e1 with me

[mellow kindle]

I just bought it myself seems a lot of people are having issues with launching the game which is why it seems to be "dead"

[empty terrace]

Haven’t bought it yet but most likely will since it so cheap rn

[shrewd mango]

Really?

Oh yeah I see the steam post now

I think I have something on the bug list on how to fix it for the linux bug

[mellow kindle]

I havent had any issues

[shrewd mango]

Outside of the steam forums has there been a lot of people unable to launch the game that you've seen?

[mellow kindle]

Not that I have seen I would check some of the reviews because if a game cant run propperly they will take it to reviews as well but it seems like they are mostly taking abour proton which if im not mistaken is a steam deck only thing

[pale valve]

Proton is a Linux thing and you need to be running a specific version of proton to play the game (proton acts as a translation program for windows programs running on Linux iirc)

Proton 9 is the version

[pale valve]

Additionally the games finished which is why its “dead”. its like a solved puzzle, those who stick around just likes the puzzle a bit more :p

[frosty imp]

zamn 14$ for gtfo

literally never seen it lower

[quartz nebula]

We all use cfoam launcher

[kind hedge]

she foams my door until i launches

[fiery cloak]

@covert agate us?????????

🥺

[covert agate]

yes please :>

[timber nimbus]

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[ebon steppe]

[covert agate]

dusty!!!!!

[ebon steppe]

dodoooooo hiiii darling

how is u ~

[covert agate]

doing goooooooooood ;3

im on break now so thats v nice

[ebon steppe]

yayyyy im v happy u on break

hope u having tons of fun and taking tons of cares darling !

[stoic glacier]

@spare whale

Add me back

[raven mulch]

Hey guys just joined the server hope you all are doing well. I've been struggling to get my friends online at the same time for a 4 man stack. If anyone is online during the holidays and needs an extra give me @.

[brave mantle]

.t lfg

[eternal saffron]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[brave mantle]

You can also lfg ur own games

[raven mulch]

Oh sick

That's so cool

I've only dope a couple rundowns with a friend that got me into the game so there is still a good bit to learn

[brave mantle]

No matter ur skill level or hours you’ll always be learning new stuff

[raven mulch]

Gonna be a fun time for sure

[minor oasis]

Nah, I know everything

[brave mantle]

Bros the knower

[minor oasis]

Those who know

[polar elm]

Those who snow

[torn geyser]

is it christmas friday?👀

[brave mantle]

Nej

Thursday

[pale valve]

Wednesday*

[brave mantle]

Shut up stupid scandi

[pale valve]

Shut up upside down boy

[brave mantle]

Bro celebrates Christmas on the 24th 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[torn geyser]

its on the 31th silly

[timber nimbus]

I shed a tear

[pale valve]

We just goated

[ebon steppe]

so no christmas?

[pale valve]

we have christmas we jsut celebrate it a day earlier

[ebon steppe]

can we celebrate both days ?

[pale valve]

i mean technically we do :>

[ebon steppe]

yippie

double gifts :3

[pale valve]

but the majority of it is the 24th

[pale valve]

just ask for your bday gifts the 24th ;>

[ebon steppe]

:( but , what if one want , bday , 24 and 25 gifts

[pale valve]

thats never happened to me

😔

well you could open half the presents 24th and other half 25th

[ebon steppe]

[brave mantle]

fed dum svenska

[pale valve]

du har ju en mpreg bild på dig själv

[brave mantle]

wild sentence bro 😭

[pale valve]

am i wrong?

[brave mantle]

No

You will also see it very soon

Like moth this might be my best idea yet

[pale valve]

🤔

maid frosty was lowkey fire

[trim gale]

Bruh I’m really gonna be eternally tortured for being rage baited and getting angry 💀

WTH

[pale valve]

Yes

Happens to all of us

[trim gale]

😭

[trim gale]

I shouldn’t have talked shit about discord people while being one tho that was stupid

[frosty imp]

Why not

[pale valve]

Nah discord people suck ass

[frosty imp]

Talk shit about discord users lol!

Exactly!

Discord users get a -99% social life debuff

[pale valve]

Discord people the reason that speed channel got shut down 🥀

[pale valve]

Im Swedish on top of that 🥀

[frosty imp]

Twitter/Reddit is -200%

[timber nimbus]

swedish is good thats a buff

[frosty imp]

Don't know what goes on there but nothing ain't right there

[pale valve]

Yea but have you seen a social Swede without alcohol?

[timber nimbus]

thars no different from where I am

[pale valve]

All I’m saying is I’m Swedish, don’t drink and got the discord debuff🥀

[timber nimbus]

2 nerfs and an alright

[pale valve]

It is what it is

[timber nimbus]

play the hand youre given

[pale valve]

Frfr

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

Haiiiii dusty

[ebon steppe]

hewoooooo lovely cuties

how is everyone !

[pale valve]

Seepy :3

[ebon steppe]

why no go eep darling ?

[pale valve]

Getting ready to

[ebon steppe]

yayyyy

hope u has a wonderful lovely eep :3

[pale valve]

I hope so toooo :3333

Anyways how are you:3

[ebon steppe]

im goooood finishing some stuff , soon to be silly and dumb maybe do some drawing

happy to talk with lovely people

[pale valve]

We love being silly and dumb 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[ebon steppe]

is so fun :3

and more around frens

[pale valve]

YESSSSSS !!!!!!!!

Anyways slumber is kidnapping me

Goon night 🔥

[clever agate]

DUSTY

hhhhaaaaaiiiiii

[ebon steppe]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[ebon steppe]

goon nigfht :3

[pale valve]

:>>>>

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

[ebon steppe]

biggest lovies for u all wonderful people

[pale valve]

🪞

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

😔😔😔😔I don’t have any more reflections

[ebon steppe]

go eep !

[pale valve]

Guuuuh fineeeee

:3

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

Goon night peeps and dusty

[ebon steppe]

sweet dreams darling , rest well

[pale valve]

[pale valve]

Tyyyy

[fiery cloak]

hello dusty !

[ebon steppe]

hi reeeeeeeeem

how is u darling

[fiery cloak]

:3

we failed r7e1 attempt to scout bombing

😔

we were doing really good

[brave mantle]

Awww shucks

[ebon steppe]

im v sorry to read that , bet next time will be the best run :3

[brave mantle]

Dingleberries

[olive mango]

Frosty finally went PG?

[raven mulch]

i'm betting its just for the holidays

[median cipher]

Elloo, ok im new. No one to play with and not getting the game to its entirety. Might I be able to join up with someone now or later to get me off these training wheels ?

[timber nimbus]

theres a looking for group channel everyone is always down to play whatever its rare to see lobbies thay arent full

[median cipher]

Roger that ty @timber nimbus

[timber nimbus]

ofc

[ebon steppe]

[vocal sequoia]

Dead server ammirite

Guys if we can go 24 hours without a single message in gen chat I’ll ask the devs if we can delete the server

[amber solar]

what if i write a funny fun fact per 23 hours w/o messages

[silver scroll]

was this meant to be a joke?

[shrewd mango]

No i still need my tech support forum

[pale valve]

I still need to pub some more, want to see some funny stuff

[vocal sequoia]

Maybe

[kind hedge]

soy pls mute everyone for a day so we can get this done

[lean chasm]

hewwo

[amber solar]

haiii

[storm scroll]

109775242545454540 i need help go run

[pale valve]

.t lfg

[eternal saffron]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[graceful nymph]

love t when people put random codes in chat like they expect us to know what the code means

[frosty imp]

Hm.

[blazing nacelle]

@narrow tusk what happened?

[narrow tusk]

people were done

[blazing nacelle]

are you still playing?

[narrow tusk]

eating lunch

[blazing nacelle]

aight

[naive igloo]

Food?

[frosty imp]

#food-pics

[pale valve]

#pet-pics

[naive igloo]

You lie 🙁

[frosty imp]

Why?

There's food there

[naive igloo]

I want it fresh

[frosty imp]

The nearest grocery store

[naive igloo]

Wdym?

I got food in the fridge , why whould i go to the store?

[frosty imp]

You said fresh

Idk how long you got your food in there

[naive igloo]

Yeah restourant fresh not store frozen pizza fresh

[pale valve]

Grab some vegetables or smth

[frosty imp]

Restaurant fresh

[naive igloo]

I got lemons

[frosty imp]

God knows how fresh that is

Anyway, grocery store for fresh

[pale valve]

The nearest McDonald’s

[naive igloo]

Well depends where you go

Good lord why?

[frosty imp]

It don't get more fresher than a grocery store

[pale valve]

Mcdonalds*

[frosty imp]

madonal

Mc Don's

(it*lian)

[naive igloo]

Ok so im gonna go grab a shower beer and then after go to McDonalds for ....smthng ?!🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[pale valve]

Grab floor fries

And sink chicken nuggies

[naive igloo]

Thats no fun , buttt OK

Piss sink soda?

[pale valve]

No green radioactive sprite

[naive igloo]

Uuuuu

Tasty 😋

[pale valve]

#food-pics message

The lore

Those who snow

[naive igloo]

Snow?

[pale valve]

Tripple p doesn’t snow

[naive igloo]

Naah its raining bro , no fun

[frosty imp]

sand sauce

[steady palm]

Looks pretty good ngl

I just realized, im eating pizza in my freddy fazbears pizza shirt. And m&m pj pants... but still funny

[quaint elbow]

ahoy

my cool and sweet ass GF is gifting me this game and she might get a copy

is having a dedicated team super helpful or can you random queue and be successful?

[steady palm]

Randoms can be hit or miss, I definitely recommend a permanent team of people you know won't suck or that you can trust

[languid beacon]

you can use the lfg here and get players that can get you through

[steady palm]

Otherwise randoms can be good if you just wanna play for a bit

[languid beacon]

it's variable, you can get someone inexperienced or someone who can play with stupid odds and still win

[steady palm]

Both somehow descriptors of @pale valve

[quaint elbow]

well Im sure I can lfg here so

that helps

[pale valve]

:3

[pale valve]

Yeye lfging here is best if you don’t have a full squad

[languid beacon]

i'm not sure i'm convinced

[steady palm]

Ive seen them clutch up like once

[languid beacon]

i am so looking forward to moving back to the city where i get better connection and won't be playing with packet loss in 10% of lobbies

[steady palm]

The 1000ms delay is a feature trust

[languid beacon]

it's not even delay

it's that sometimes you hit enemies and they just

don't take the damage properly

[quaint elbow]

what makes this game so hard? The number of and bullet spongeyness of enemies?

or what?

how long levels are too?

[languid beacon]

the difficulty of this game comes from the game not telling you anything about how it works

[steady palm]

Anywhere from like 15 min to 3 hours

[quaint elbow]

lmfao

and what kind of progression is there

[languid beacon]

knowledge is the biggest factor

[quaint elbow]

is it mostly unlocking weapons/tools/upgrades?

and going through the Rundown?

[steady palm]

You get better

[languid beacon]

very easy to psych yourself out when you have the wrong idea in your head

[steady palm]

Thats the progression

[languid beacon]

there is no unlock systems, progression is only what missions you can host a lobby for of your own volition

[quaint elbow]

understandable, I'll try the game out for a while and see how much I like it

I definitely love the art style and visual language and all

the creature design is peak too

[timber nimbus]

start with rundown 3

IMO

[steady palm]

Thats definitely the way to do it imo, I couldn't put it down my first session and ended up playing like 12 hours first time. Almost daily 3-4 hour sessions since definitely a top10 game

[amber solar]

one can start in eithr r1 r3 or r6, personally i just suggest going in order till u get stuck and then u jump to thhe next rundown, just completing r1 as it is the big tutorial and leavin r8 for last

[quaint elbow]

so levels aren't ordered strictly by easiest to hardest?

[pale valve]

Generally A tiers are the easiest whilst E tiers are the hardest, there’s exceptions so don’t follow that religiously

[timber nimbus]

nah

levels in the rundown are by depth

[quaint elbow]

understandable

[amber solar]

all rundowns are like, contained difficulty, so like while they follow their own progression, each rundown has its spiked and some r harder than other w/o much order between them :D

gaming

[pale valve]

Haiiii dustyyyyyy

[ebon steppe]

hewooooooooooo

how u lovely moth :3

[pale valve]

As always sleeepy 😭😭😭😭my head is NOT allowing me to sleep

Anyways very good since big advancements have been made

:3

[ebon steppe]

oh ? headache ?

[pale valve]

No it’s just I’m excited

[ebon steppe]

adorable :3

[pale valve]

:333333

Anyways how are youuuuu

[ebon steppe]

hope ur mind lets you rest soon darling , u deserve a nice big sleep

[pale valve]

It won’t be big cuz it’s 6 am 😭😭😭

And ima be celebrating Christmas soon

It is what it is cope

[ebon steppe]

hug , a little nap here and there :3

and hope you have the most amazing wondereful christmas ever darling !

[pale valve]

Frfr🔥 hugs back to youuuuuu

[pale valve]

Already been peak 🙏

[ebon steppe]

yayyyyy

v happy it already is peak , hope it only gets better and better !

[pale valve]

Yessss !!!!!!

Well can’t get any worse lowkey

[ebon steppe]

🩷

so happi to read

[pale valve]

🩷🩷🩷

Anyways ima hop back to trying to get some sleep

[ebon steppe]

best luck darling and sweet dreams :3

[pale valve]

Goon night :33333 tyyyyy

[fiery cloak]

dusty you are so sweet

[quaint elbow]

chat, in the tutorial rn

how do you sneak around the enemies after the like second or third door? I tried moving slower or making no noise but idk where to

[livid matrix]

Far left side

Or just go loud and melee them all with fully charged swings to the head if you feel fancy

[quaint elbow]

I tried that but there's one there and it still saw me

in front of the stairs

I ended up killing them all tho lol

I just baited all of them around corners and managed to bat them all

[quaint elbow]

yep this is what I did lol

didn't even really mean to

so far the game feels awesome tho

the guns feel awesome

idk what the basic enemies are called, but are they blind/sensitive to noise?

they remind me a little of TLOU clickers lol

just no fungi

[frosty imp]

Hm.

[pale valve]

There’s only one (sleeping) enemy type that doesn’t wake up due to noise (you’ll see them in R1A1). For now you can imagine that having your flashlight on them/walking (not crouched) will make them go into stage 2 (clicking/orangeish light coming from them) and if you do it again stage 3 (throbbing) and then they’ll wake up

[pale valve]

Team why am I awake

Ts pmo🥀🫩

[frosty imp]

Sleep for the weak

[timber nimbus]

want me to hit you with af rying Pan

that works in the cartoons

[quaint elbow]

what should I be bringing?

Any preference on weapons, melees, tools?

[pale valve]

Fuck it yes I’m down

[timber nimbus]

omw

[pale valve]

Bring bots, don’t pick spear

[quaint elbow]

wym bots?

[pale valve]

Literally only rules I have for new players lmao

[quaint elbow]

and one more thing, is there friendly fire lol

[pale valve]

Well you can have bots playing

[timber nimbus]

yes

[pale valve]

YES

It’s so peak

[quaint elbow]

I thought they were useless

[timber nimbus]

and its a BIG issue with bots

[pale valve]

They’re not that useless for R1

[timber nimbus]

give them bio tracker

[quaint elbow]

ah

[timber nimbus]

you will quickly realize their worth

[pale valve]

Grrr I want them to play around with loading

[timber nimbus]

sorry..................

this is just wehwat i did when i got the game 2 weeks ago....

[quaint elbow]

where is the bioscanner lol

[pale valve]

They kinda suck but pull more than their weight in the easier levels

[pale valve]

Yes but I want them to experience the loadouts so they know what their preference is

[pale valve]

Tool section

[timber nimbus]

making the bots have the other things seems pretty pointless cuz that stops entirely once you find another person or two wto play with

[quaint elbow]

the bio tracker?

[timber nimbus]

i also dont know how good they place things after having bishop waste all his fog repells

[quaint elbow]

wasn't 100% sure if it was the same thing

[pale valve]

Well not really cuz you’ll be able to swap your role

[pale valve]

Yes

[quaint elbow]

for sure

are all weapons viable?

[timber nimbus]

yeah

some are OP but just mess around and see what feels nice

[pale valve]

You can beat the game with all weapons yea

[timber nimbus]

thats really what matters

[pale valve]

See this is what we want

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

Yea I don’t think sleep wants me dusty🥀

[timber nimbus]

even tho theres a meta for weapons if you mess up as a player you still lose . so meta doesnt really mean anything until youre crazy god

it also never means anything because meta is boring auf

[pale valve]

Well… you say that…

[ebon steppe]

:( pls if u feel eepi try to sleep darling

[pale valve]

Meta is fun if youre nerfing yourself via playing solo

[pale valve]

Sleep doesn’t want me I’ve been trying for 5 hours 😭😭😭it is what it is

[timber nimbus]

this is true i dont think id play solo with the weapons i find fun over the meta choices

[pale valve]

What weapons you find fun?

[quaint elbow]

is it ever a good/worthwhile idea to try and go in loud lol

or is stealth the default

[ebon steppe]

hug , still hoping for best darling

[quaint elbow]

I don't mind that but the gunplay in this game is peak

[timber nimbus]

i like hel auto pistol but that might be considered meta for some things cuz its rpettty good, i like heavy smg, i love double tap, i love combat shotgun but i think thats same boat as hel auto, i love choke mod, i like the arbalist machine gun even tho its worse than the veruta, i like sniper

[pale valve]

Defo some places, for now just play stealth

[timber nimbus]

situational

but yes learn stealth

[pale valve]

Very true

[ebon steppe]

🩷

[quaint elbow]

hmmmm

[pale valve]

Lowkey fire takes

[quaint elbow]

I might try playing alone with bots even too just to get a feel for guns and stuff

[pale valve]

Original playstyle

[quaint elbow]

and just see how far I can get lol

[timber nimbus]

also the rifle with the thermal sight

i forgot if its precision or not cuz ive only been running harder missions without shadows as of late

[pale valve]

That’s what I did

[quaint elbow]

good way to learn maps

[pale valve]

When the precision rifle isn’t precise

[pale valve]

Well that doesn’t really matter much tbh

[timber nimbus]

its sight is really funny but i like it still

[quaint elbow]

really? Seems like it'd help your runs go a lot faster but idk

considering you don't know where what goes

[timber nimbus]

also pdw is really good i love it a lot not just for the thermal but it feels good to kill with

[quaint elbow]

do you just get funneled to the end normally

[timber nimbus]

the only non shotgun weeapon i find really comfortable to hip fire

[quaint elbow]

I tried the heavy machine gun and hated it just now lol

[pale valve]

Yea but usually you don’t do repeat runs that often… I say with over 50 clears on some levels

[timber nimbus]

try the arbalist or the veruta

[pale valve]

Well the levels the same every time (except rng stuff)

[quaint elbow]

that too yeah

I didn't think there was any randomization of the maps

[pale valve]

I think pdw is the thermal one

[pale valve]

Resources, enemy spawns and alarms are usually rng

[timber nimbus]

the only types of randomization in this game are where x can spawn in a room with several other zone doors in it

[pale valve]

Theres… some exceptions

[timber nimbus]

in that sense

[quaint elbow]

alright so what I was expecting basically, nice

[timber nimbus]

ofc theres the locker stuff and enemy spawns

[quaint elbow]

it seems like the main threat comes from you not having like any health to spare ever at all whatsoever

and that the enemies don't care and spawn in droves if you piss them off

also they break doors

[pale valve]

Nah 20 hp best hp

[timber nimbus]

15hp >

[quaint elbow]

whats the trade off

you move faster with less?

[pale valve]

Well they only spawn from alarms and the walking ones :p

[timber nimbus]

no

you just gotta play better

[pale valve]

You regenerate to 20 hp naturally

[timber nimbus]

20hp is 2 shots to strikers and 1 shot to giants

20hp is regen cap yea

[quaint elbow]

where do the different health pools come from

[timber nimbus]

15hp results from soething youll find later

[quaint elbow]

I love how they specifically say you have 20 hp total instead of 100 but just make it proportionally tiny

makes you feel like you can never not err on the side of caution

[pale valve]

You’ll find out later

[quaint elbow]

oh wait no

regen to 20

you need meds for the rest, my bad

[pale valve]

Yeppers :3

[quaint elbow]

simple enough

[pale valve]

Press Q and 1 btw

And you’ll be able to control the bots

[quaint elbow]

oh nice

I was gonna ask how you ping enemies too

if you can

[pale valve]

Well

It’s like

[timber nimbus]

they have to be awake

[quaint elbow]

ohhhh

[timber nimbus]

and with bio tracker

[quaint elbow]

lame

yeah that too

[pale valve]

Kinda not that many controls

[quaint elbow]

I figured that'd nullify it too

[pale valve]

Wrong

They have to be moving

Or awake

[quaint elbow]

ahhh

[timber nimbus]

bots will automatically do if they have bio tracker

[pale valve]

And bots have buffs to biotracker

[quaint elbow]

and bio tracker is the best tool overall?

[pale valve]

Nop

[quaint elbow]

I see I see

[pale valve]

There is no best tool

If you’re in a squad yea bring bio

[timber nimbus]

bio tracker is never not in a loadout but all tools are situational

well squad loadout

[pale valve]

But cfoam and mines and sentries can all be ”more useful”

[timber nimbus]

cfoam my beloved

[quaint elbow]

what's the foam do?

[pale valve]

The schrimple duo/solo

[quaint elbow]

block doors or something?

slow them down somehow

[pale valve]

Reinforces doors and foams enemies (makes them not move/be able to attack)

[timber nimbus]

fortifies doors

[quaint elbow]

okay just as I thought, sick

[timber nimbus]

freezes enemies if directly applied or they walk into it

yurp

[pale valve]

Go my skinkinthesink do your first R1A1

I expect a clear screenshot

[timber nimbus]

go my scarab

[quaint elbow]

me and my girl might watch Jojo in a few but dw I'll be up for a night messing around with all the guns

they feel great

[pale valve]

Well send it in #gtfo-chat cuz we have perms there

[pale valve]

Fire

[quaint elbow]

why is the spear bad??

[timber nimbus]

yea they dont have a ping cooldown its really funny

[timber nimbus]

cant sprint while charging it

harder to stealth

[quaint elbow]

ohhhhhhh

[pale valve]

Trades speed for range… range isn’t needed that much

[quaint elbow]

yeah you right

[pale valve]

They do it’s rly low tho

[quaint elbow]

if you're sneaking up on them

no point to it

[pale valve]

Well even then

[timber nimbus]

oh i thought they just Didnt

[quaint elbow]

if you're not, you're using your gun probably

[timber nimbus]

i never noticedd there was one at all

[pale valve]

Like I could send a vid but I’m not gonna

[timber nimbus]

not always

[pale valve]

He doesn’t snow and it’s so great

[timber nimbus]

if theres just a few attacking enemies you can use melee to save ammo

more than 3 this becomes hard unless you have knife

[quaint elbow]

lmao she tried the game out bc she thought it looked cool and wanted to play with me but noped out during the tutorial

she's newer to gaming overall I'd say so fair enough

[timber nimbus]

if you want her to try a game like this get her on left 4 dead 2

[quaint elbow]

she LOVES Deep Rock

taste is accounted for

[timber nimbus]

this games just the extreme version of that

[pale valve]

Jamie doesn’t snow

[quaint elbow]

and also Outlast Trials

she REALLY likes Outlast Trials lol

[timber nimbus]

its obv possible with other melee weapons but knife is really comfy for this

[pale valve]

Throwing someone into GTFO when they’re a new gamer is kinda crazy😭

[timber nimbus]

but i havent tried bat

or anything

[quaint elbow]

ngl I was contemplating checking out Abyssus too when she asked if I wanted anything from Steam sale

[timber nimbus]

but knife and sledge

[quaint elbow]

I'm glad I chose this game tho bc I love the style and it feels good

[pale valve]

The humble S + A/D Strat

[quaint elbow]

doesn't seem to be dead at all really either

just tight knit

[timber nimbus]

its niche ✌️

[pale valve]

It’s on its way out but it’s got a few years I’d say

[quaint elbow]

she wanted to try I mean

[pale valve]

Yeye I got that it’s just a very very hard game

[quaint elbow]

I mean with DoW being a thing now, fair enough, but it is sad to see

[pale valve]

Specially for beginners

[timber nimbus]

yes . but . new player

[pale valve]

True

[timber nimbus]

cant expect striker dodge knowledge

[quaint elbow]

especially since Im just now finally trying it

[timber nimbus]

because thats hard

im still bad at it

[pale valve]

We haven’t gotten new content for years but we still going strong

[quaint elbow]

my one problem with these kinds of games is that im more of a solo player for a lot of FPS games, especially tense ones like this

and it relies on people being up at the same time and free to play, etc

[timber nimbus]

that will quickly come to aa halt

[pale valve]

More so niche knowledge coming into the game

[quaint elbow]

more immersive by yourself too imo

[timber nimbus]

but everyone is always wanting to play

[pale valve]

.t lfg

[eternal saffron]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[quaint elbow]

I mean the game seems to have a good amount to enjoy, at least your money's worth, so far enough

[pale valve]

Well kinda

[quaint elbow]

Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written

(just saw this 5 mins ago)

[timber nimbus]

nah these guys attack weird even having so much fps knowledge some times the attacks suck

[pale valve]

800 hours in still not tired of the game so yea I got my moneys worth lmao

[quaint elbow]

love that

[timber nimbus]

but i have 100 hours so i just havent played enuff

[pale valve]

Kinda do but also kinda don’t

[timber nimbus]

its pretty intuitive most of the time but theres some weird ones that still get me pretty bad

like ladders

and every single giant interaction

[quaint elbow]

R1A1 with bots for my third attempt

this will go wonderfully

ngl the style of this game SLIGHTLY reminds me of another game called The Forver Winter

[pale valve]

Lowkey I just do giants duo cba to solo them anymore

[quaint elbow]

a bit less grimdark maybe

just a little

[timber nimbus]

i still havent solod a giant with melee only i need that steam achieve

i could just load in with a spear but xd

[quiet tendon]

guys I am getting cooked I needeth assistance

[pale valve]

What level

R1C1?

Fire lowkey

[quiet tendon]

yes

[timber nimbus]

qwhich one is that

charger intro?

[pale valve]

First reactor

[quiet tendon]

we have been trying to do it

[timber nimbus]

ohhhhhh

[pale valve]

Thats C2

[quiet tendon]

and bots got us being cooked

[timber nimbus]

bots on reactors are horrid

ill play rq

[quiet tendon]

yeah

please it's me and a friend of mines

[pale valve]

Jamie get them on the good bots loadout will you?

[timber nimbus]

i just might

[timber nimbus]

post lobby code

ill just type in game chat

[quiet tendon]

109775242580679323

[pale valve]

Burst canon and burst sentry on them 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[timber nimbus]

if its one bot that hoe getting bio tracker

[quiet tendon]

Oho we were using sentry and bioscan as per recommended by a vid

[timber nimbus]

i typed in chat

[pale valve]

What I wrote was weapons not tool ;)

[timber nimbus]

burst sentry

[quiet tendon]

ohhhhh ok ok well jamies gonna help us cause we need the help fr

🙏

[timber nimbus]

i forgot if theres code hunts in this

id assume no

[tiny trout]

no

[timber nimbus]

thank the lord

[pale valve]

I’m dumb af rn

[quaint elbow]

big fan of the thermal PDW so far

[pale valve]

Meant burst rifle and burst canon

[timber nimbus]

lmao

burst cannon my beloved

WTF i dont have the achievement for completing a mission witha booster

im getting that this instant

[pale valve]

Noooo not the booster propaganda

[timber nimbus]

its just for an achievement................. im not evil i promise

if anything its amazing i have 100 hours andf still dont have it

more people should tell me im amazing

[ebon steppe]

[pale valve]

I had like 400 and only got it cuz we had rundown roulette randomize our loadouts/boosters

[quaint elbow]

okay I tried going loud in R1A1 and everything started off well but I ran out of ammo too fast

so that's definitely a large consideration

[pale valve]

Well how loud did you go?

/how many rooms?

[quaint elbow]

fairly loud

just started clearing rooms and I got the 952 black keycard

[timber nimbus]

wow i do not remember there being stealth scans in r1

[quaint elbow]

died there tho

because I ran out before finding more ammunition

the bots actually worked decently compared to what I was expecting

pinged some stuff

[timber nimbus]

bots on bio tracker is always nice

works so well

[quaint elbow]

any more tips I should know?

[quaint elbow]

I was playing it like it was Killing Floor lol

that's a more succinct way to say it

[pale valve]

Ok maybe don’t go loud after alarm

Like first few rooms ain’t that bad to go loud in since there’s not many enemies there

After alarm it gets a bit more heavy on the enemy side

[timber nimbus]

r1c1 is a horrible reactor intro wtf

this hallway SUCKS and theres 0 lockers or boxes in the reactor room

[pale valve]

It’s like a 4/10

R3A3 was much better

[timber nimbus]

this is easily the worst reactor ive seen

[timber nimbus]

yea

[pale valve]

But also R1C1 shouldn’t be that hard

[pale valve]

Yea pretty much

[timber nimbus]

i mean its an 8 wave reactor

i doubt its gonna be that bad but ts still gonne eat resources like crazy and its hard to venture out

[pale valve]

Can solo hold without venturing out that much, sure squads will be more ammo down the drain but you can also split up

[timber nimbus]

eh makes sense

im probably thinking this is actually gonna be hardish waves

[pale valve]

Wave like 6 is the hardest one iirc

[timber nimbus]

oh yeah looking at the wiki

only one with hybrids lol

[pale valve]

Isn’t there two?

Wave 4 and 6?

[timber nimbus]

iblotted it out

4 6 8

[pale valve]

Didn’t realize wave 8 has makes sense

[timber nimbus]

im confused as to why 7 doesnt

[pale valve]

Filler wave

[timber nimbus]

ig but the mission also could have just ended at 6 or 7 and leave the same impact

[pale valve]

6…

7…

[timber nimbus]

hahaha hahaha

[pale valve]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

Damn embed fail

Anyways yea

R3A3 is a way better intro

R1C1 just ain’t it

[timber nimbus]

ar3 just a better intro to the game

r1 is log slop

[pale valve]

I don’t really have that big of an issue with R1 as a whole, just R1C1 could’ve been a better intro

[timber nimbus]

r1 feels very boring and slow

[pale valve]

Though I personally enjoy the level

[pale valve]

Cuz you’re good

[timber nimbus]

like just a bunch of long missions

even when i started

r4 just introduces the mechanics better methinks

r3

r4 sucks

i mistyped

[pale valve]

I wouldn’t say long

[timber nimbus]

)ive played 2 missions in r4)

[pale valve]

R1A1 is 10 mins max for someone who’s good, R1B1 like 30 mins, R1B2 similar, R1C1 forced 30 mins, R1C2 like 30-50 but is also fun, R1D1 like 15-20

Rough estimations

[timber nimbus]

yea ig this isnt terribl y long

r1c2 is a good mission i liek that one

memorable

charger alarm is really cool

[pale valve]

Charge ’er? I don’t even know her

Sorry i had to

[timber nimbus]

that ones actually good

ok this run is falling apart

[pale valve]

Thats what we like to hear 🔥

[timber nimbus]

its over

[pale valve]

Slot the hel gun

Abuse the lines

[timber nimbus]

no hybrids died this entire time its impossible to burst cannon while getting pelted

[high folio]

hi guys

im new

can anyone play with me

[timber nimbus]

2 in the morning and im up playing r1c1

[pale valve]

8 in the morning and not a single blink of sleep

[timber nimbus]

that happens

[pale valve]

Unfortunately it happened on the day we celebrate Christmas

[timber nimbus]

ummm

santa is just so cool you had to catch him at midnight and his awesomeness kept you awake

[pale valve]

TRUE

[torn geyser]

old man pete

[pallid crater]

This is true.

[timber nimbus]

supply efficiency is beautoiful oh my God

we arent completely broke

[pale valve]

It’s quite broken

[timber nimbus]

from 30% to 86 on my PRIMARY 😭

[kind hedge]

booster 🥀

[timber nimbus]

need dat achievement

and... to stop dying on r1c1

[kind hedge]

are you soloing?

[timber nimbus]

no im with 2 people who got the game today and a bot

im not good myself ive only had the game for a week and a half or so

[kind hedge]

hold at bridge and take burst/sniper sentries

and one bio

ezclap

[timber nimbus]

yea we are set up

ik how to play its just hard withut good coordination

they dont know target priorities and i cant explain why that works well thru game chat

[kind hedge]

you can just be the guy who kill big

[timber nimbus]

the problem arises in the hybrids and they shoot past them at the strikers

its ok tho this run went easy then i can go back to r7c3

[kind hedge]

thats why you kill all the big guys while they kill small

playing around teammates is also a skill

[timber nimbus]

this is true im just used to the same 7 or so other people

play the same role all the time

[quiet tendon]

@timber nimbus you were a God sent

I thank thee for thy help

[timber nimbus]

we will speedrun it next time

20 minute r1c1 incoming

[quiet tendon]

fr snm

we'll dm you when we run it again

[timber nimbus]

fire

if you need someone when you get to r3d1 hit me up

[kind hedge]

wr incoming

[timber nimbus]

im goated

[quiet tendon]

snm finna be the first on the list

you came in clutch fr fr

[timber nimbus]

r3d1 the goat mission

favorite or second fav ive played so far

[kind hedge]

the humble r3c1

[timber nimbus]

forgot what was in that

[quiet tendon]

we just tryna beat the game fr but it be looking impossible

[pale valve]

Nah you can do it dw

[kind hedge]

||charger error|| alarm

[timber nimbus]

OH right

[quiet tendon]

trying our best one step at a time

[timber nimbus]

AWOL and chaos have also been very fun

[kind hedge]

youre one of the rarer few ppl who like r7e1

[timber nimbus]

I've liked everytbing so far tbh I only dont like r1 and r2d2

actually r6c3 is bad

so is r5d2

[kind hedge]

you have peculiar preference

[timber nimbus]

in what way

[covert agate]

i like r7e1 🥺

[timber nimbus]

twin

[kind hedge]

hating r5d2 of all thing, and r6c3 as well

[timber nimbus]

d2 was the most tilted ive ever got at this game

c3 could have probbaly been fun if we didnt let someone who had never done stealth before do the stealth

oh wsit

I meant r6d3

oops

the c levels are good there

especially cx that missions a banger

[kind hedge]

im seeing a pattern here

[timber nimbus]

yes the missions thay are stealth then a reactor are boring

except somehow r7e1 does it really good

[kind hedge]

repeated wave code hunt 🔥

[timber nimbus]

csnt wait for r4e1

knowing me ill enjoy that because even tho that mission is defo things I dont like, irs actually hard

and I like ot when I lose because the thing is difficult

[covert agate]

why didnt you enjoy r5d2 in particular

like what was tilting you

[kind hedge]

third code for sure

[timber nimbus]

the first tilt was when we didnt know there was a team scan before extracting and we left our teammate kiting the tanks

then the third code hunt with the fucking softlock

all the fog

[covert agate]

oh 😭

[timber nimbus]

respawn zones are annoying

[covert agate]

softlock is understandable too

valid crashout

[kind hedge]

softlocks 🥀

[timber nimbus]

it could have been really good if our first attempt would have won cuz that was my first experience with a respawn zone but then it just got sooooo annoying

[kind hedge]

first experience with respawn zone?

[timber nimbus]

I played it very early

like day 4

[kind hedge]

5 hour andy in r5d2

classic

[covert agate]

average gtfo player's order of levels

[timber nimbus]

its ok I carry my weight

[kind hedge]

nah you def didnt

[covert agate]

😭

[timber nimbus]

judging by the fact I did code hunts id say I did

I like stealth in this game it feels pretty good

AWOL stealth was awesome and ill probably be the one to do it when I find people for r6d3

[covert agate]

power hungry 🤤

[kind hedge]

wth is r7d2 stealth

[covert agate]

that duo's gonna be fun

[timber nimbus]

cells

either the mother zone or tank zone

its not hard but its fun still

[kind hedge]

mom zone with ctrip = free

[timber nimbus]

I did tank zone with nothing

[kind hedge]

hardest part is solo hold shadow error

[covert agate]

is it meleeable?

[kind hedge]

nah

[timber nimbus]

not rlly

its like 7 shadows every 30 seconds I think

[covert agate]

what if i lock in though

[timber nimbus]

maybe tighter

[kind hedge]

4 shadow ever 10s

[timber nimbus]

oh

[kind hedge]

you get swarmed

[timber nimbus]

wtf am I thinking of

[kind hedge]

the hardest part is actually not getting impatient while stealthing back LMAO

i lost there like 3 times and nowhere else, except for choking tank once and getting softlocked via term bug at reactor shutdown

(we were doing main -> ovl -> sec)

[timber nimbus]

wtf

[covert agate]

cancel surge with ovl error?

[kind hedge]

yeah

[covert agate]

cinema

[kind hedge]

dont want to deal with fog for main

[timber nimbus]

I was gonna tweak out at that order but that kinda makes sense

[kind hedge]

but if youre fast enough you dont neven need to cancel it

[timber nimbus]

overload error is freeasy

[kind hedge]

you can just do sec with error

[covert agate]

oh true

[kind hedge]

youll have to go loud and itll be tight if youre slow

but its no fog so its fine

[modest ibex]

you just fall back into respawn zone C and have an incredible line

[hasty tapir]

Ye and i been sayin that

[modest ibex]

yoni

you have been saying everything

[hasty tapir]

thats also correct

[amber solar]

hai

[ebon steppe]

hihi

[upper hearth]

@half heron can't allow adverts here sorry hope she wins tho

[mellow badger]

Merry christmas people

[pale valve]

Christmas just a week away

Can you believe it

Christmas

Just a week away

[mellow badger]

oh am i early

[pale valve]

Christmas will come eventually :p

[mellow badger]

i thought western christmas is 24 to 25

i might be wrong

[amber solar]

it 25 :]

western ksks

[pale valve]

Depends which country

[mellow badger]

oh so im not wrong

[pale valve]

Scandinavian Christmas is 24th

Majority of other western countries are 25th iirc

[amber solar]

western as in us or western as in western europe

[quaint elbow]

bruh I just checked and the achievement says that only 22 percent of players have beat the tutorial

[pale valve]

Both I think not sure

[amber solar]

achivs werent introduced till way later

[pale valve]

Achievements were added later on so the people that did tutorial before it was added didn’t get it

But also it’s the hardest level BY FAR considering i beat the entire game and needed 800 hours before i could get a tutorial clear

[quaint elbow]

got my first clear on R2B3 🗿

matchmaked with randos

[brave mantle]

Wasn’t even a 4:05

[pale valve]

Frfr time to ff my steam account

[covert agate]

the ever so humble pathfinder

i’m not fond of that one tbh

[pale valve]

It’s not that great imo if it’s the one I’m thinking about

[covert agate]

b4’s worse ofc but b3 is still sucky

[pale valve]

Is it the giant at the end one?

[covert agate]

uhhhh

don’t think so

b4’s got two sleeping giants in extract zone

iirc