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hug day ! almost here
109775244773970991
hug dusty day
sorry i needed to send the code because someone DC'd and so i just put it in here if you wondering why i put code
You can do it in the VC chat
Or just update either the LFG post or status
ya i did send it in there but they couldn't find it
i should have done that tho
Fridayyyyy
yes!!!!!
Everyone asks if it is Friday but not what is a Friday 😔
its gambling
a day where u eat fries
anchug
chug jug?
hug chug
hug day !
Is it now?
always
I don’t believe you.
It's hug day everyday
What a startling realization!
sjjsjsjsj
we only allow hug maker
Do the thug shaker
no
My mom and me after we binged watch mini series with great premise and middle story just to met with VERY disappointing conclusion and late story (Peaky Blinders' centrism/anti-hero glorification and Sirens TV Series' Incest and "You're not a monster" conclusion ) :
We wasted 5 hours of our lives, but atleast we spend quality time discussing them together
what
hug day
there's a question about the matchmaking that's been on my mind
Do i have to matchmake or wait for people who matchmake to join
you make me think of one thing
which is that when you matchmake and load into a lobby (whether its yours or others), people take a second or two to load in
so if you use ingame matchmaking, make sure everyone loads everytime you finish matchmaking
can i join someone
my brain skipped nearly all of that text
"my mom and me ... binge watched ... incest ..."
i had to reread that a couple times phew
im at the casino rn, pop in
damn put 50 on black trust
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
oops, im sorry i live in the LAND OF THE FREE 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 RAHHHHH
never brotha
i feel like if matchmaking was better this game could have been way more popular
Face the wall
Enjoying the beaches of cyberstan as we speak
Misinformation. We glassed the oceans of cyberstan after the first war
Nice try dissident
Im not sure that's how that works
You mean to tell me you somehow removed practically every drop of water from the planet?
Yes
Managed democracy works in mysterious ways
Clankers don’t even have nuts
Blah blah blah
Wdym
you do know the meaning of those words in your name right
What do they mean
anxiety
they need hugs
where do i go to ask to play with people its my first time playing and i have no friend who play this but i really want to play.
the question towards the void
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
thanks
Yeah
Melancholy
Its a artist I like
O ok
Hm.
Hm.
i did not read ur name properly at first
Real
RIP Carrot
golden sh*wer comes to bite me once again
smh if I just stuck with carrot this would've been much better
😭🙏
censored shower 💀💀
Terraria reference?
Tragic

hug!
mayroo day
anyone have the fix for the connectivity issues among friends?
That's desynch issues
Check #1049599987878723635
Is progess saved locally? lol just got a new pc and it is looking like I need to complete everything all over again
Do you have steam cloud enable?
Yes it is enabled
resinatll or verify ur local game files
or restart steam
actually do the second and third before the first
player save data is not saved locally
it is playfab
otherwise we would have people with 696969 R3D1 clears
@modest ibex all good lol, gl with ur studying
gl with runs
ty!
I mean, I'm 100% sure someone already has that amount in R3D1
Knowing how loved that level is
(for a good reason)
oh yea mb
thought playfab was the servers but that also doesnt add up
it is
it has to call to playfab otherwise the game doesn't have any record of your save data
in modded GTFO it is very much so possible to have localized save data
Don't we already have local data save mods?
localprogression is the one I know of and that one is how modded rundowns track your save progress
So what happens if you try to play without internet? 
Vanilla: you can't go past the initial loading screen
Local save: you can play normally (I think)
Huh
Just recently got back to GTFO looking for a team
hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies, the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920
just some advice
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you need a refreshner, be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the easiest ones
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
yesh!
never
.t bucket
||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||

Hm.
Ur not makroo
Yes
Hey orange
Hm.
Hey Gold
@proven canopy nice try but nevver fuckingg join my channel or voice if you keep trolling and leaving
if ur having an issue report it with @eternal saffron sending all the details
kill em mods
nooo mi random boyo
Hasn't littlemaxy been here before?
who
huh
guess I must've hallucinated such a person
he's been around for ages
just another unremarkable player who displeases me
yea first message was from Feb 2024
love you guys
maxy day arc
oh i recognizee u for ur pfp sorry
complicated names make me die
for clarities sake i should state that 90% of gtfo players displease me, so that fact by itself is not an inditement on you
No worries. We played together actually. You are great
Glad I’m in that 10%
Surely
you've had your moments but you're cool by my books
- you have enough time and experience in this game (the good kind of each, mind you) that your gameplay won't give me a blood pressure reading of 150/100
god you have more hours than me in the game now
Hello question mark man.
if you are goat in gtfo, there could be no question marks
Nope. Looks like a question mark to me.
One non-straight line, has a dot on the bottom... yup, question mark.
i have no idea what's going on at this point, for the record
Hmm?
Hm.
Hello, would someone be able to help me with a matchmaking problem i have?
whenever i try to play GTFO with someone the game acts weird
and wont let us start the match. Whenever we somehow get to start the match though we get stuck in the descending animation infinitely
the problem only happens when im in the match, whenever i leave everything goes smoothly for my friends
i just realised there is a tech support channel, my bad
am i in the 90%

buh
buh
exactly
exactly
me
me
wuh
wuh
hum
hum
buh
guh
guh
reminds me of that WallStreetBets legend
bup
bullpup?
Not really, most days I'm a drifter in between
I believe most of the chinese players has their own communities on their own social media platforms that I don't use
mb team
I've seen a couple chinese players before tho, most of them have either moved on or found their own groups
i cant differentiate between the letters but yes
either that or korea or japan
Matchmaking
Wdym ”between the letters” if it ain’t mm
well the letters in their username bro
all yours mate
Hm.
mayroo day
mhmm
I think the last time I ever played it must have been like 2012
maybe not im not too sure
Dusty cat
Friday meme unfunny moment number 300008839 ,jesus christ this is sad
Always meant to ask, but did that mellany person actually get banned
or did they just leave on their own
buh
🎣
No
no it's monday you dumb fucks
is it hug day
i wish i owned the game
I wish I owned
i wsh
I
What game?
den of wolves
It sounds like a Wolf Family Simulator
me doing heists in the most brutal and violent way possible after this

The heist is downstairs
fellas how does one get access to the lfg for non beginners
Channels and roles
Np
bread
least illiterate mexican
LMAO

slendo really got 🎣ed
not fishes cuz fish is wen u do something wrong
i just got got
🫃

no
they are focusing on a new game
darn
you suck at gambling tho
roussian roulette?
bj maybe
YOU GIVE BJs??????
baccarat maybe
bourger
pluh!!!!!!
just get randomly generated rundowns
gtfr ❤️
didnt try that
Hm.
I put Gay in "Gayagettin up, non will be left behind" everytime I play CO-OP/Team game
we got gta 6 before gtfo sequel
gtfo 6
when 7
next day after VI
Hm.
Sequel boutta be named stfu
real
Amazing
8
when 9
i am still waiting for GTFO 0 the prequel
I’m personally waiting for GTFI
devs went on record saying they wouldn't make another game like GTFO, the difficulty affected their sales lol
People refunding a Game they cannot Beat ? 
buys a game that is 9 out of 10 in difficulty
the game is hard
them: 🤯
I find it more funny when people get a COOP game and then say:
"But I don't want to play with randoms and I don't have any friends"
Brother
It's a COOP GAME
fr like natural selection gotta natural select out some of these fools
😔
my experience on LFG in The Division and Destiny had been nothing but miserable
GTFO is the only game i have decent-ish experiences
i play a lot of 4p coop horde games
for some reason i just happen to enjoy them
vermintide matchmaking is mostly ok, pretty good all things considered. generally lack of comms but its a lot less neccesary in that game so its whatever
space marines kinda died pretty fast
l4d2 still has a community somehow
sanctum2 is completely dead (unfortunate
)
helldivers doenst really have lfg but it doesnt really matter for that game either way
magicka is also very dead (tragic, i fukin love magicka)
it's not necessarily that people bought it and then refunded it for the difficulty (which would be a more ideal scenario), the difficulty alone is enough to throw lots of people off from interacting with the game at all
you can call them plebs but at the end of the day those plebs represent a potential customer they missed out on
well of course by not catering to plebs you're catering to a different market
game not that hard nowadays, powercrept weapons
well, not as hard as it was anyway
nerfed shadow giants
gotta figure it out tho some people play blind
buffed guns buffed tools
yeah, the game's difficulty is more based on knowledge than mechanical
bad mechanics can get you fucked, but the breadth of the game is in the knowledge (or lack thereof)
they were so fuckin scary
I will update the Shadow Giant page
Shadow giants are still pretty scary
Probably the only enemy I don't mess around with lol
@frosty impcan i pinch ur cheek
I disagree. The Market is absolutely there, after all this time we still have a steady influx of beginners. The Problem is that they are Not sticking around after people die 10 Times after realising they are Not Cut for this game
Ofc by not appealing to plebs you're appealing to a different audience so that people will buy your game instead but you're still missing out on the pleb audience, but you can't do anything about it tbh, you either appeal to one group or the other, you try to do both you get a product that appeals to no one and it's a flop
Also who tf calls casuals plebs 
.t r1c1
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
.t love
Hey everyone
Sup
It’s been awhile
Feels Like it was Just a week ago since i have Last Seen you
Nope… about 1 month ago since I’ve last spoke
Hm.
For the record, when I said GTFO direct sequel I didnt necessarily imagine it to be exactly like GTFO in terms of difficulty
think about it this way: after the 3rd rundown, game introduced sectors, then, with "release" which was rundown 6, it introduced checkpoints
It's clear that, if given the possibility to go back, devs would have added checkpoints from the beginning of the game
perhaps leaving the "no checkpoints" rule just for E-tier (actually E-tier, not R8E1)
R6, by the way, it's also the time when they added Scattergun IIRC
I've always considered that, if they would release a sequel, it'd be, more or less, on the same level of difficulty as R6 overall
the only reason why R8 (the latter half) is the way it is, is just because there's a lot of easier content in the game already
For what it's worth, the main issues I've seen that makes people refund the game are: 1- I dont want to install Discord to find people to play with (solvable with a lobby browser to be honest, and more interaction with Steam) 2- I take aeons to finish a level (some "advanced" mechanics should be taught by the game explicitly rather than having to watch guides IMHO)
I've always believed that a GTFO sequel would perhaps just look like Payday with an horror coat of paint
What an essay holy
How would you rate the chances of a GTFO sequel (direct) being released before 2031?
23
49
1
No chances.
768796112219144216
prisonerefficiency
No!
Hello
hai
Hm.
We need to do this together!
Hm.
Uyaya?
doing good
currently doing a sociolgy course atm so im going with the Deaf aspect of it
No it's wednesday
That means buy one sundae get one free hmhm
Truly the greatest deal in humankind
(Already ate all the sundaes)
sorry
Hello I just bought the game 😄
hey! if you're looking for people to play with, make a post in one of the lfg channels, otherwise have fun!
sounds very epic
❌
an ideal timeline
lets goo
Hm.
@wind elk LEMME INNNN
No
Naur..
No
why not
It is not Friday
how could I be...
wormphobic
@fiery cloakYou're cute
thanks
Anytime cutie

Advice or LFG style help
R6C2C3? must be a advanced mission
he says you're cute and people say thanks
I say you're cute and I get filed for sexual harrasment
What happens if I say you’re cute?
That gay
pub :3
could never be me
Hm.
✅
Is indeed Friday
Lets make some Fries on this day
heya! just a question - i haven't played gtfo in like a year, redownloaded it cuz i missed it, and i saw my progress has been reset? was this an update?
nothing's been reset, are you sure you're not looking at the wrong rundowns?
yeah for sure - everything is locked :/
could be a bug or somethin
there hasnt been any update in a year o.o
maybe restart game? or u played modded and it was saving locally. weird, never had that happen.
They have rereleased all Levels with slight differences (except R7), so If you played OG rundowns you wont have any Progress anymore
But a year ago ALTs were already Out, you Sure it was Not more than a year?
What Could also be is you Viewing rundowns from the Lobby, in that Case there is a known Bug where game reads wrong rundown clears
My buddy had this problem when he booted modded for this first time, try restarting the game
Yes...
mayroo day
No way
a2ASS
RE9 before Den of Wolves is crazy
before gta 6 ?!?!!
dorito
RX-7 engine
sanitation
Is there any body have tried playing GTFO through GeForce now?
@amber solar
:]
hi
it's me
the geforce dude
I’m trying to play by Mac😎
Actually I’m just testing. If it’s more stable than my pc.
Just pray that your Internet Connection is strong enough 
it probs is but u need premium like almost obligated
cuz the runtimes an hour and for 40 50 of the 84 missions, if ur not a pro ur gonna take that time
altho u can always try reconnecting mid match if ur with other people
as long as u don't host
only one need a good shooter but doesnt know the game very well?
✅
I've gambled everyday for the last 18 years if thats not dedication idk what is
Lowkey had vote but then I realized gambling and changed it
Hm.
@bold stirrup baby girl
@bold stirrup where are you zaddy????
Gambling gambling gambling i love gambling
Quitters quit before they win BIG
Always bet on red
what
what
!?!?!?!
what happen
🤨
where gamb a
sometimes i think but then i forget
What would you say is the easiest run down for 2 people with 2 bots?
In particular r2c2 is easier like that
But yea prob still rundown 1
Rundown 2 until 2d2
What about the third?
We have only done the first 2 levels but it seems much more doable for us
Iirc entirely doable. 3d1 questionable
O shi it’s u hi
Im everywhere
is 3d1 needed for completion or an extra level?
I stopped playing with bots after R2D1, you can prolly get to most C/D tiers in R2-R7
It’s just gonna be
Painful lmao
There is like 1 level where with bots imo is easier
Is it an isolated extra level or is it required to unlock further levels in the rundown?
The rest are pain yes but not always
It's the last
ohh thats good then
All the first levels in each tiers unlock the rest of the tier plus the next tiers first level, all levels are needed for E tiers but most of those should be played later on with 4 players
There are no e tiers on 1 and 3 that's why they are easiest
Me and Ara are gonna play with bots cause getting a third or even a fourth person that is not just a one night stand is annoying to do.
Well R8 is diff but that also should be saved for last
However 3d1 I've only tried in real human lobbies and even then witnessed wipes
So not sure on bot lobby
Also 3c1 rng and error adaptability may differ
Generally most people go from R2D1 (or D2) to R6, could be good to know for future reference, R6 is the intro (and therefore the second to third easiest rundown until C2) to the story
If you do decide to try for a third or fourth don’t use the in game matchmaking, instead use the info in #how-to-matchmake
We noticed already
payday 3 is away bigger and much more known game
💀
In game matchmaking doesn’t let you matchmake for a certain level lol
Or just don't pretend to be a fool and communicate
But idk
I personally just like game and want to play and don't care what
The one time I used the in game a guy cheated:/
Yeaaa that's true actually, there has been more cheaters lately
Here in the dc you can kinda hold them accountable
And if you don't wanna bother with cheats that ban them then that's understandable
But to be fair lately it's been funny
People are admitting they run x y z
So I can just avoid them in future
I think my mods are mostly clean, bug fixes and that
And I noticed that a guy was cheating after he insta wiped and I had to solo carry
Lmao
So yea, it's not that it's gonna be annoying because cheaters will ruin your game
It's because they suck and you will have to lock in
does GTFO have playstation support?
Imagine tryna use terminals on a ps4 controller (no it doesn’t kinda requires kb/m)
so is it a no? tbh it is not like everyone will play from ps4
i can use the terminal for my friend
It’s a no, like a central part of the game is entirely destroyed that’s why they didn’t console port it
Takes way to long and players would complain about it being a ”bad game” cuz typing quickly and frequently doesn’t match with controllers
s k i l l i s s u e
phone port when?
Also the more skilled strats (burst dragging) doesn’t actually work that well with console
I wanna play on my smart toaster

@wintry tartan Yo Mr. Warden, can you put the game on sale so my friends will buy it,
With love,
Snibet
Bros wish boutta come soon
so funny to see videos with the title "the C game u never player" and it's a game that ended up exploding
so u see a lethal comp video as "the funniest game u never played"
buddy we all played it
It's to trick algorythms
well, to try to trick them at least
how about they trick tHIS
skate
:3
hello
hi
hi
Hellllo fellow Gargamels
sleepers
terraria enjoyer spotted
john bo1
something eextreemely good yes
:3
yea this game is peak
i cant do that


i need desinfection hug
squishy hug

-69% infection :D
i need infection hug
burst rifle W
Embed fail laugh at this guy
mayroo day
Do any of you know what the GTFO candle actually smells like? I assume it's scented.
hopefully it smells like a scout 🤤
heard it's like wood
..Hmm, might have to pick it up then.
Wood as a tree? Or Wood as in fresh processed wood?
wood as in 
processed i think?
i think the way they described it- it was a long time ago but- hard applewood and something
🤔
never
always
shrimp detector
Everyone asks “Is it Friday?” but never asks “How is Friday?” shaking smh my head…
bread
🍞
Just got my first ever experience with malware/adware because my stupid ass fat clicked a link
Cool
playin awaria and holy hell the toxic yuri goes so damn hard
awaria mention!!!
@deirdre someone fix this?
jsut got spammed friend requests from all of them
<@&408548765599793173>
@eternal saffron
mods. crush his balls
Absolutely never
Yup. Bot friend requesting everyone.
too bad :3
mimiga
watafak amigo
Who was it?
Can't remember the name off the top of my head since I rejected it hours ago. But it was a cat Pfp...
Different cat, not yours. It was loafing and fully in frame.
I didn’t get it then 
If anyone knows a way to check recent friend requests, even rejected ones, I can get the username.
Maxwell sent you a friend request.
Will you Accept it?
i only accept hugs
👋
i heard that this game is really hard
none of my actual friends want to play this game with me
so i js came here
lol classico
u can find other players here to play with using the lfg channels
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
lots of chill ppl
Don't use gtfo questions btw, it's 50%misinformation 50% for expert players
This statement itself is misinformation
Is never mayroo day

always mayru day
nuh uh
yeah!!
Dusty
there is no misinfo
🧢
that is meee !!!
dusty!!
What is mayroo day?
hug mayroo day
Who?
cube cube
helo
:3

hug cuby day now
ono


Mayroo day is in less than a month
But it's NEVER every day
Only once a year
I still can't comprehend gtfo of all games having such a fruity discord
Someone said gay sex?
It's just #general every where else it is pure autism
You clearly haven't seen the average #gtfo-chat convo
It's autism wdym
Only notable thing was me bullying forsaken for being in a prawn server
:333
They said it was
Everyone can say it is
That was the inciteing incident
Honestly I prefer it over being dead silent
We've had periods of those times pass by
Bro we where sneaking around sleepers
scout thighs 🤤
Hybrid gyatt 
freaky people liking difficult games is my favorite stereotype
guess they like it hard 
you fuckin know it
btw awaria is so peak
i need to get better to unlock the rest of the gallery
are you doing hard mode
He is the one hard
who?
Hm.
If you guys like it hard you guys will like lods of the fallen (2014)
real
so i push on
i will make yuri real and love a woman
not just love a woman, no, make love to a woman too
hell yeah
no way.........
❌
What color are med packs?
med color
I'm trying to settle something 🥲
orange
ty queen
thats red?
it seems reed
no way
They Look Green to me
that is so absolutely orange to me 🥲
nah the heart/cross is kind of close but the cross cant be red
to me the body of the pack is so absolutely orange but i see there is room for some debate lol
geneva conventions gaming
fr
already going insane with the color picker 🥲 it looks peachy/coral ish but honestly still orange to me
oh well
i guess is that thing of likee it looks like an optical illusion
if i squint and ignore my eyes and give my homies the benefit of the doubt i can see it, sorta 🫶
what doees iit tastee like
baja blast
no way
it would taste like sparkly water with alcohol
we have a taco bell cantina that sells alcohol
i havent been

i should go
serve guinness in like a cup
could take a pic with mom plushie there having a baja blast marg
or tequila in a big glass
bunbun :3

so real
:c
tempted
a baja blast marg sounds bad tho








