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Tbf you said buying, not staying here after they buy it
True
I do agree people who buy this game commonly do not stay tho
[X] Doubt
But still, few people would be able to even enjoy the new content
Also why did someone say helldivers 2 is bad
Must've been a leaf lover
They fixed the constant nerfing issue why are people still angry
Me when I'm true
no beer
no dwarves
no cool caves
I mean, good for you but it doesn't mean hd2 is bad
The evidence speaks for itself
Bruh
No i agree it's way more fun and actually runs on my system
Idk if GTFO has beer
AH SO THAT'S WHY
I like the forced teamplay tbh
Or dwarves
I agree
Sleepers
Not having teamplay at all in hd2 such a letdown
Or the babies
It runs fine on my system it's just boring and has no progression along with everything drg has it doesjt
I didnt play hd1 but what's the difference im curious
I guess
Its 2.5d, weapon progression and tech trees, twin stick
So, outside the fact all 4 of you are locked on the same screen things like resupply pods aren't free and are a strat one person has to run. A lot of things like jet packs come with 2 uses to support your team.
And has difficulties up to 15
People don't like to be happy. Good things too good to be true
And D8 ish HD1 is harder then D10 HD2 tbh
I also like that the galactic war is a real mechanic and not a narrative backdrop tbh
Tbf its a lot easier to handle things in 3 dimensions so it's expected
We will see when Squid actually become Squid in 2
Progression isnt based on teamplay though
Like
But hd1 also actually has war progress hd2 has so much filler it gets boring
HD1 galactic wars take about a month
The same screen argument is actually good though
It's an actual thing you actively participate in
Hd1. The bolt action rifle is pretty good iirc
Yeah it is
Its good in both games
YES
I genuinely believe constitution is as good as it's user in 2
Ranging from garbage to like S- tier on bots
It kinda reminds me of pre nerf Slugger in a way
Oh god the slugger
I use it on my 8+ bot stuff because you dint need higher than medium pen so it's great
I forgot it even existed
And it has a billion rounds
Poor slugger
Old Slugger would be fine in today's meta
Yes
Also there's a bunch of HD1 shit I'd like in 2
Its not a real gun if it don't weigh at least 100 pounds
Yeah more vehicles PLEASE
It would encourage actual teamplay
Though i am a supporter of long range support AMR builds
They gotta figure out how to make 2 mechs work first
Tbh nothing will encourage teamplay in hd2 as long as I can run off solo with an autocannon and reasonably kill literally everything I come across
I mean, if you call in all the ressuplies yeah i guess
But come on
You can get unlucky with ammo being on the ground
Pois dont always have ammo
Ig, AC doesn't use a lot of ammo, it comes with a lot of ammo, and normally if I run out of ammo it isn't before the 7 minute CD is up
Yes
This why my goat cluster rpg exists
It literally can
No ?
What can't you kill with it?
Try to kill a diff 10 bot drop on your face
You won't be doing good after that
"Him" obviously
You could, it would just suck to
John Helldiver
Yea hd2 is easy
There is zero reason to engage drops, or bug breaches, and there literally never has been
But if you're playing for fun that shouldn't be a problem
What i'm saying is you can't get back on your feet if you mess up
No you can
The dropships detect you
Like come on
Also thats even more ennemies to be cautious about
Crossbow, ultimatum, thermite, RR, 380mm, eagle strike, OPS, game becomes so easy
Brother you are using full meta weapons
Of course it is easy
Full meta = easy
Games easy even without meta weapons
You don't even have to actively participate in anything you can just follow me
Wild
It's still pretty easy nonetheless
Like come on, you can just make it harder on yourself
You can run a joke loadout with like EMS strike or shit
That thing needs a massive buff
Ems can be good
My nonlethal loadout the goat
0 kills all support
It's too small of a radius
Eeh
I run Dominator/Tenderizer/Adjudy, Lance, Autocannon, Peak Physique Light armor, Eagle Strafe/Airstrike/Barrage of personal preference for almost every single mission that isn't defense, game is still easy tbh
Maybe
If it was big enough to consistently halt factory striders and bile titans it would be worth it
Sometimes I'll spice it up and bring eagle Clusters instead of strafe for the pretty explosions
I mean
That still isn't far off from meta
Like, try bringing the concussive liberator or something
So like
Orbital airburst for bugs is way too easy
What isn't meta in HD2 right now outside Lib Conc which is an actual joke weapon and Slugger
You can use legit just a Senator on D10 and be okay
Also solos can often be easier than with others just because no one tries to stealth a tiny bit ever
Not saying it must be straight up bad
The killzone smg that sucks absolute ass
Solo can just be fun
Mgs mfs when they gotta infiltrate and complete objs unseen
Unseen, could even call him invisible
Just that some weapons have no weaknesses like the dominator + peak physique
Domi is one of the only guns in HD2 that you actually have to aim
I don't mean like that
I mean the slow projectile on it means you have to actually participate in leading stuff
I've been running lib pen/verdict/stunades with railgun/supply/500kg/strafing run and it's my fav loadout rn for bots
If hd2 was a good game they'd collab on a lebron james skin
Goat
Love using it with pp armour
It got fucked up so badly
Like on bugs, sure why not
But that explosive dps is PITIFUL
If HD2 was good they'd collab with HD1 and add the armors and weapons and vehicles from that game
It's a shrapnel weapon
Not even half the crossbow's explosive dps
Not explosive like crossbow
Look, its the slowest weapon in the game and it cant even kill stuff without shrapnel
Sorry but that's just not great
Not saying you cant enjoy it
But it's not good
Why does it have damage falloff that bad
Like seriously this wasnt needed at all
If hd2 was good they'd delete the game and make hd1 pt2
What's that
Pile bunker 
The rubiconian handshake
@lucid stream ill play
Was playing Armored Core 3 yesterday while waiting for videos to render.
Eruptor can be pretty clutch on bots. Shoot a devastator and it kills the pack of little’s around it.
Couple it with Stalwart for versatility
And when is the art contest =(
This is my formal request that for the may community contest we at least have a category for mom fan art 🙏
It's going on currently
Ends in a week
for the photography challenge, can you submit 1 photo for each category, or can you only submit 1 photo period?
go to the google forms and check it yourself my guy
lemme check, ill lyk gimme a sec
ok so you can only submit 1 photo and only select 1 category, in short 1 photo period.
i now regret not saving the picture of a tiny striker i found once in r7b3, it was standing next to another and it was noticeably smaller for some reason
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffff
Where is it? I can't find it, I just see a photography contest
I'm blind
i think he misunderstood art same as photography contest

here we go
oh nice, didn't expect that
so why not
thought you were gonna start cursing my ancestors after that sticker
nah nah am chill
hit dm theres this photograph contest imma get some photos for that too
maybe help me out w it
igh
Tough one for the pirates.
there are ways
talking about pirating the game is also against the rules
Joining the official server and saying you play in a pirated version?
Comon
Like
Idc if you pirate or not but you are asking for a ban
dont do it again
We are getting purged
also buy the game lol
It's on sale btw
It happens every once in a while
chill out jus dont talk bout it here
...It hurts even more when they come asking for tech support advice
probably gonna do that yeah
oh my
the pressure is on
honestly very tempting to ban those people on sight
If only my friends weren't addicted to fortnite and valorant 💔
Its funny
Yeah
I remember the spacewars dude
He joined a lfg-beginners team
And everyone was pulling their hair out trying to figure out why they can't join in
Then once we saw spacewars we knew he can't
After I got all of them to join one of the general vcs to troubleshoot
game was best in og R5 all downhill since then they left to make payday 3 and that flopped lmao
Imagine if they focused on more enemy types and perhaps a different objective or 3.
Game could have stayed good
you said you play a modded version of a dead game that the devs abandoned ??? ban hammer.
Buncha fuckin weirdos left in these chats, brother. I miss when the game was good.
To be fair, saying that you're playing a pirated version of a game in an official setting isn't... well, very nice no matter what game you're playing
I understand why someone would pirate, and I get that not everyone has the means to buy games
But...
What did you expect was going to happen?
jus ask em to buy the game, idk but being toxic aint the solution
Yeah
That's what I usually do
yeah thats what i told him here
,
Another john huh
ayo i jus saw your name
Actually I do wonder
Did this used to happen a lot
Actually nevermind you guys have been here less than I have
what used to happen allat?
forget i said anything
They never worked in Payday 3?
🤨
Probably why it didn’t do good.
No 10C charm.
lmaoooo
10c wouldve saved it
chargers mid bank alarm
"We got a BBC!"
starbreeze
I have never even heard of them.
Could he pulling my leg and I wouldn’t even know.
Me
they are the parent company of the makers of payday 2
starbrezee owns overkill, and they both made payday 2
just overkill was mostly the 10c devs, who left after payday 2 release and stuff
well not mostly
just the founder and some more, like 6 7 people
Ah
I definitely find GTFO to be much more fun. It covers that cross between FPS and survival horror. It’s also difficult and makes you think on your feet.
Thank you 6 or 7 people that left the Payday crew to make this.
i think on my ulcer :3
sorry tanks*
if you are talking about tumors they all have a set HP value
once that HP value reaches 0 the tumor pops
tracking they have 150, if i hit it with a sniper shot for 240, am i wasting damage?
I see, thank you!
no
the onlyyy about exception is shotguns but it only matters for the scattergun
isnt it
am i being stupid
yes for shotties but u can really only go overboard with scattergun
i was not wrong yippieee
🎉
yur
2 shot tank 
its why scatter is so good
btw i recommend scatter for bosses
sniper is meh
i see, ty
smh stealing our arguments
O//O
i was tracking the tank had 1k hp, is my scatter damage calc wrong? tracking ~153 dmg per shot, after precision calc then weakspot damage (X3) total dmg is 337, so that makes a tank kill a 4 shot with scatter?
my bad 3 shot**
the actual explanation is a really difficult one
but scattergun on clients yes u can 2 shot moms and 3 4 shot tanks
clients?
not host
yes, not the host
host as a lot of disavantages lol
(Incredibly brief explaination)
thats odd, thanks for the input all!
but u avoid enemies better B]
R5C2 usually has worse problems than the tank though
rip, were still struggling with it.
overload my... beloved?
No
what a fuck it be
not there yet lol
1 person in front, another giving backshots
best strat
we wip on sec so we just start with it until we get it down
Both have similar results, one just lets you start with more ammo
people go ov first cuz is the hard one
so if u wipe its 10 mins
if u do sec then ov its 30 40
yes I know
But reactor has resources that sometimes help
Which is why some people do it first
ohhhhhh, thanks makes more sense, our secondary wipes are pretty lengthy
Is it stupid? Maybe
its not stupid i just dont think u rlly struggle with res either with ov
unless u shoot everything
like, every stealth room
do overload first
||And snatcher clear||
gaming
thanks again, wish us luck!
dont die much :D
only ten secondary wipes or so lol
were still not having a bad time so we will keep mushing, i appreciate the words!
i think its rlly fun
its a cool ass reactor and main is forgettable but its fine
c2 is quite fun
i think its a pretty stand out level
Yes
It is fun
If you don't do pubbing
well um skill issue
idk i dont pub hard levels
i just mostly did r1
i got like 33 clears on c1 and 25 on d1
we tried pubs, just low rolled with like 4 hours play time lol
but were not pros either
lol
the three of us are around 150 hours apiece on and off
idk whats the average anymore but sounds good for r5c2 i guess kmsdkm
idk i did it like 500 in
yo what, -T works??? is it helpful?
It's useful when you can afford to stay on the terminal
And someone needs to find something in stealth
i gotcha, ty
sup sigma
It’s also useful if you’re a blind fuck like me and needs a constant reminder of where the HSU is
cough R4C3 cough
is it true that only 0.5% pass R2E1 ?
Nuh uh
Where did you get that number from?
if the numbers from the achievements, take into account they were introduced much later than r2e1 was
so people who did it and then just didnt played didnt got the achievement
then maybe it a meme ?
btw it a painful to hold the hsu fog rebell and cell at the same time
I mean you can gamble cell if you really want to have two people shooting
There's a random cell spawn in there
OG R2E1? Maybe
Nowdays a lot of people have done R2E1
Mainly because its a lot "easier" than before
still struggle with the error alarm part
the first surge door after that is nightmare
Whats your loadout
Hey, me and some guys are playing this in vr. The vr mod is amazing. If there's anybody here who plays in vr and is looking for other vr players shoot me a dm. We're starting from the beginning and currently on the 5th level of the first rundown
is this acceptable to make a lobby that is another game instead of GTFO. for example, I create a lobby for monster hunter
i don't think it's forbidden or so, but
i can't imagine you'd find players quickly or easily
idk go for it
if you\re dedicated to improving and take it seriously you can probably lfg the game in 300 hours
maybe 400
if you have a team and you\re all kinda serious it\s maybe 250/300
So how many poeple drew penises and submitted that for screenshots?
Gotta be more than 1 right?
Definitely more than 1.
I am doing my part.
Depends. I've had 600 hours with friends (before there were achievements and log hunting) and I'm just one rundown short of completion. If you play with friends and learn the game by yourself, around 400 hours. If you find an experienced team here, around 200 or even less depending on how well you do
500-1000 hours depending on your fast learning of ingame mechanics and gameknowledge as well as your teammate rng. I'd say it takes around 500 hours for an average skill and decently lucky player. 🤔
What were you going to say Zed?
i think 500-1000 is very pessimistic
Well, I have nearly 800 and yet I still have 6 missions + some achievements left.
ye and how many hours of those have you spent playing something that you have already cleared
I imagine hours to hundred percent GTFO really heavily hinges on the logs achievement tbh
You miss one of those somewhere and you don't know where your hours are spiking looking for that thing
if u have a guide it spikes by like 40 hours max or so
majority of logs are easy
there's just some outliners in some E tiers and funny ones like in R5D1 or R6D4
Tbf if you're playing GTFO with a guide up I imagine that's gonna heavily skew your hours too
In the other direction tho
A log of logs
the andocas website be like
anyone need help on a R1 or R2 level?
I did it in 50
The screenshot contest looks cool
I'd say a small amount. I don't have that many clears on all missions.
I've also sometimes been in the game afk, but again. Highly doubt all of that farmed me more then like around 100 hours on the game in total.
Як пройти рівень з терміналом?
Як там правильно прописувати код?
2.3 якщо я не помиляюсь?
Which one?
Also try to keep convos in eng only.
krill issue
i have 1k bhours and got 2 e tiers left
and 2 pes
:[
but no one wants to cheat r5e1 with me
is fun but how to complete under an hour wityh my skill issue
cell skip
True
Guys
An old lady just said she loves my hair
I'm going to remember this the rest of my life
best day ever
such appropiate music to gambling
what
changed it u coward
Base
d
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@loud yew


don't mind me, I was just checking something
hug check
Get hug checked

hugday
no
no
Wish it was Friday
real
hello
yo
after about 13 runs of R5C2, we finally cleared PE, of our 20 hours and 12 wipes (all of which were on the secondary obj, OVLD was very easy for us.) we noticed just before the final reactor terminal the mothers spawning behavior, (spawning in, not spawning babies) appeared initially extremely inconsistent, at times we would find a hold spot, often in the tank room and just wait her out, she never came while we waited, even taking on extra reactor cycles to get the mother out of the way. Other times a single player enters the reactor room is would instantly spot the mother. After a larger sample size, it seems to be attached to entering the reactor room then of which, she spawns very close. Other notes that would help others, save foam for the tank but pull it out of its spawning room and kill all ads before going in for the kill, the waves surge on door open it seems, then quickly taper off. if attempting PE, scatter is all but needed. while auto primarys are needed for baby spawns, for end of level surges the hel shotgun was very stand out. lots of giants and hybrids, chargers and special mobs. TLDR: R5C2 PE was abnormally hard IRT other C levels I've attempted, would not recommend.
uhhh
r5c2 is hard pe yeah
but a lot of what you're describing is just misunderstanding spawn behaviour and making bad strategic plays as a result
oh here you go, your mileage may very as you "git gud"
can you explain how the mothers spawning behavior should work on R5C2?
it works like every other reactor spawn, your count +2 rooms from reactor
the mom is set to spawn in 45s before wave end, but if you're spawncapped (and you are spawncapped if you're holding in tank room) it's blocked until a bit later
oh neat! thanks!
as a general rule, all reactor wave spawns are set in timing and amount, meaning the faster you kill, the faster the wave ends. furthermore they spawn further away (significantly so) the further away from reactor you position yourself, meaning they spend more time being just spawncap rather than targets. generally holding in reactor guarantees minimal latespawns, and unless you're exceptionally slow it means you're forced to kill everything at a fast enough pace that there aren't any stragglers at all
oh very nice, thanks for the info!
does sniper do overdamage if your not the host or is it just shotguns?
just shotguns
ty!
shotfuns
I love it
Bro I could never hold in tank room.
We held a spot one single time outside sec reactor because we were late coming back and it fucked the whole thing. Spawns came in at a trickle during reactor wave and then we sprinted to terminal (which was last room in zone) and then everything caught up and spawned in the room with us.
Hyper fun moment
Never did that again, ever.
does fog power apply to turbine?
i dont think so
dang, ty
Holding the reactor room is objectively the best play
I also love when GTFO refuses to give game updates to enemies more than like 4 rooms away
?
Hallway is just better
holding the bulkhead door
Why, why would you hold the hallway?
im tired of fog boss
Destiny 2 is truly the best worst game i have ever played
I don't know how they can make such dogshit content and then a month later they release absolute peak
D2 had it moments, love doing some of the earlier raids
Be bungie
its over for you
Doesn’t that make it take longer for enemies to show up though?
im pretty sure it doesnt in this case
its still 2 rooms i believe
i have not done PE in a while
but even so, the bulkhead chokehold is just better still
I usually hold in there for the first few waves but once new zone opens up I move into reactor room.
JEW ZONE????
Haven’t tried it differently because I’m scared of enemy pathing taking too long.
New my bad lol
lemme check the last time i played PE
The last zone for code hunt has like 2-3 charger feelers and it makes my team scared
october last year lmao
Always get the last word in with like 7 seconds left
Goddamn bobby
You have time to do the alarm for that zone during the previous hunt
I’m looking through my team’s recordings of R4B2 Variscite PE leading up to our first time clear. Dated June-July of 2024. Crazy how much worse we were back then.
Next set of videos gonna’ be long.
I don’t remember an alarm in that zone. Just lots of sleepers and the charger feelers….
Too much GTFO. Too many reactors. Getting confused 🤔
How do you guys keep this all straight?
||we dont||
does anyone want to play wit me
lots of empty space
.t lfg
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No
Sorry no
Crying
What...
bricked up
Hm.
goofy goober on dat boogie woogie doin the gloopy glooby
no
tmrw is tho
who wanna go the casino together 😊
we can gamble our life savings away together, wouldnt that be so cute :)))
can u roll my riven mod? 
what the sigma
Hm.
pls on god give me a good hand
yeah there's a fog boss, its ALL THE FOG why is is do damn foggy in here! I just wanna see!
Eat the fog
where do i report players for griefing
On matchmaking or lfg?
its all been sorted thanks
finally, friday 1 am
high noon somewhere
im still on thursday
.t lfg
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why
yup yippee
because why
I am trying to play with some friends and I can't start a game idk why pls help
What happens?
It automatically closes?
Do all of them have the game on steam right?
no we can't initiate a cage drop and the button to imitate dosen't work we also all played earlier. We all have the game on steam yes.
That's usually either someone having a VPN or something interfering with P2P
Yep, if someone has a VPN turn it off
Hi I'm with Daniel we've been trying to play, we got into a lobby initially and managed to start a game but we were stuck in the cage drop loading sequence so we restarted it
Also open ports etc, etc
We get into a lobby and it stops working
Nothing should've changed because the button worked the first time.....
Do you need more help
Or is it resolved
slay girl
hugfay
im in the settings and every few seconds or a click to another tap on it seems to have the display flicker to black. then comes back to the screen
Hm.
Hugday is every day unlike Friday

schizo update confirmed
Rundown 9 "Schizophrenic Gamble"
Ah yes that happens to me too
For some reason it makes the game way brighter than it should
I recommend changing whatever You want to change and then restarting the game
yeah almost like my pc is fighting over normal or HDR and i sure will
Idk why it happens honestly
I been trying to fix it since i started playing but no luck at it
Actually
@shut crypt
Any ideas on why it happens?
it only seems to happen in the menu when im making ajustments to them or switching tabs but not in gameduring play so far
For me just by clicking in the Display tab makes the screen flicker and the game brighter both main menu and ingame
It looks awful ingame
it seems to start from there something to to with the way it passes into the gpu casue even through the TM i was able to see it look like it reimpliments my gpu usage
when i get funny flicker stuff i just alt tab twice to exit and re-enter fullscreen
idk if that even does anything but
might be i switched from full to full windowed
Do you hear them too? there coming..... GL
It's ok for them to just arrive in my humble opinion
Happy friday
No longer Friday 😔
happy deez

me when
the the the me when the
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And the game is far from dead
Dead game definition: when a game doesnt have enough playerbase to complete or enjoy the game under normal means
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Hm.
Hm.
hugday
Is every day
Hey all
Hi
me and my boy j started playing and we need a 3rd or 4th
haii
Hm.
hugg
will never happen, but there's a mod for that
yea devs stopped working on it
I'll fix them

Do you have a group of 3 other friends willing to play it with you? For sure, definitely
Worth buying
If not, still worth it
if ur willin to put in the time to learn it, commit to it and dont mind playin with randoms or u already have a group of friends it can b very worth

Forgot again lmao
It is worth it tho
If you're strong enough
no
.t lfg my beloved
Refund
done
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thx bud
Save your money. This game dead. Way better games to spend your money on.

No
Your money is better spent on good games like deep rock galactic
go gamble fr
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alr budd
Money Saved +++
another epic win
@blissful veldt didnt realise you were one of those toxic vetran players lol
I don't know why I'm expected to be there to kill error wave and collect the IDs for the three of you, tbh.
You have three people
Two of you are very experienced
No one told you to xD you just decided to run off yourself
You just do not need me to play the game for you.
We didnt even ask you to do that xD you decided to play how you wanted to and then get upset at the rest of us
I'm upset that I'm being blamed for 3-downs on your end
maybe, just maybe, some of us play for fun and not to show "hey, my whole personality is a discord role in a dead game"
That just shouldn't be my problem
I also play for fun, that's why I go solo 119
Not much happens on the other side of the map w/ 3 people stacked up
the lfg clearly stated "new player no spoilers"
so I go do 114 and 119 so that we both have things to do.
kinda against the idea of it for you to leave on your own and pretend we're not there
who blamed you??
Dario literally complained about us not grouping
And that's only a problem because two very experienced players are going down on repeat.
yeah, because we're playing a team game
with a new player
If you wanted them to have a better experience, don't go down.
Just don't go down
I wasn't complaining about you not doing more, I was complaining about you playing solo
and don't blame me for you going down
I didn't
i dunno man, fine enough if you want to go off on your own but you litterally joined a lobby where the lfg said it was a new guy who wanted to expierence the map for the first time
Ok.
It’s r2c2
Sorry
I’d play it the same way ngl
Drama?
I just think it's more in the spirit of not trying to guide the player, to not try to find the IDs around them and do something in a different part of the map.
Vs. telling them we need to find a cell and turbine w/out explaining why
i know many people who do but like why do it in a lobby where someone says they wants to expierence the level for the first time?
From my perspective
You are just playing the level for them anyway
Like, you're going forward and progressing the objective
I think it’s hard to experience the level genuinely for the first time in a lobby with 3 people who already know it
It’s kinda just the way pubs go
depends on how much effort you put in to make the new guy's experience enjoyable
a bit hard when someone is running off on his own
and how much effort did you put in Dario
let’s find out
are you not also on this cross
And I don't think that's unfair, it's hard to see what the OP wants if they didn't ask for new players and they booted it in multiplayer.
And again, what is the problem w/ me being off on my own?
Why do I need to be there?
116 is the last team scan in the level
also ray heading off and doing 119 on his own doesn't change how every other part of the level plays for the new player
This is funny
because new players enjoy to see the whole level and not just win, that's all
Hey frosty
this is an extremely avoidable conversation lmaooo
This isn’t entirely true
Just saying
when they clearly state in the lfg it kinda is.
but I get what you’re trying to say
A lot of LFG posts don't actually mean what they say, ngl.
the new player will spend 20 minutes in an area for no reason which does not add to the gameplay experience at all
I interpreted it as "don't explain the level"
i am new to the game and looking for a group my english is very bad so i am looking for a german group/player or a group that can overlook my bad english skills
when they just post in lfg-western-europe and lfg beginners... meh you could make an argument but at the same time it is a beginner post
Don’t join the lobby then
It was in NA and not beginners, last I checked
like yes maybe they could also come to zone whatever the fuck and see that zone and the 2 collectibles
Which is why I even clicked on it
but rayalot trimming the fat elsewhere does not detract from what the new player has gone off to do on their own volition/the volition of the 2 other teammates
I don’t think this was the problem with the lobby lol
Y'all seem like you hate each other fr
this community is extremely weird
I can tell, I'm new
Not really
It's more like passive aggresive
hate vs debate is a thing
seems like the lfg post was about avoiding spoilers in the gameplay/missions, and made no mention of skill level/no speedrunners/etc etc
oh I know
Passive aggressive
This is all just, we came in with different ideas of what the LFG post meant.
You're right
It turned out to be even more vague/less clear when we actually got into the level
and I played it like I would any R2C2
Holy moly instant too
||just want to be clear, this is not a common thing||
“New player, no spoilers” I feel like it’s not that vague
it is
ig communicating more would be great? as an outsider looking in I think
that could solve a lot of issues immediately
I am still not convinced the problem wasn't the 3-downs, either. I don't think Dario is going to make a dig if they never all go down, and we don't have multiple minute breaks for me to run back.
Communicating solves the issue
It’s the way people talk
any new player will agree that having someone do the level for you will be annoying and take from the experience
"First time playing so try to refrain from spoilers about rundown gameplay (I spoiled myself in story already)"
this is the LFG post for reference, correct?
Communication in a game about communication?
Never
He’s doing 1 zone brother
That is the post
First time playing so try to refrain from spoilers about rundown gameplay (I spoiled myself in story already)
This reads like someone is making no comment on skill level, and rather saying that they are a pair of fresh eyes and don't want the rest of the game spoiled - no comment on the gameplay experience itself within the level
You guys are tweaking
This is very 1D thinking
havent we also literally had the argument that by the time you get to r2c2 you arent rly a new player anyways
siege players
I feel like there has to be info missing here
Is it only hard to think in cases like this
Not everyone plays in order
Look, the only thing they made comment on was no spoilers for later - sure you can take a more holistic look and try and argue that others should be mindful but at the same time you cannot blame people for taking what's said at face value
you can't but also if it's not clear you could also ask questions
frosty this just isn’t your fight im ngl
if people wish to communicate their needs, they will
all this yapping is going to wake up the sleepers..........
Can't you also like brute-force everything with 4 sentries up to second half of r2 and then get hardstuck
theyre hosting r2c2 I think this is irrelevant
even if its correct
he got 5/7 ids completely alone
if they had not wanted to be carried, i'm sure comment would've been made on that in the post - given they already made comments on making sure not to get spoiled for later
3 zones total
burn me at the stake if you wish, i do not care
> player joined 2 days ago
I'd be willing to extend "new player" to "hasn't cleared R1-3"
Even if it's broad
> not a beginner apparently
someone here is lying 🤡
Grabbing the ids doesn’t mean he did everything to get them
you guys could literally ask questions if you want extra info yk 🤷♂️
I got DM’d about it. The fact of whether the lfg post was vague or not was not the problem
He just grabbed them
Who?
i'm sorry but
I feel like the info should be provided without questions
who is dming frosty to come in as a mediator
These ppl are just bitter
provide relevant info if you want to make a case
Disagree
Someone pinged Rayalot saying toxic vet or something
Yeah obviously
just don’t bother
kinda getting off topic now
It’s not worth
true
ah right guess so, inferences can be made
Feels very do no wrong

no he can definitely do wrong
I’ve said so before
I just don’t think he’s done wrong here
I'll be happy to kiss and hug and move on
how does the new player feel in this
Because the dig seemed to be complaining about 3-downs lasting for 2-3 mins because I'm across map
That’s probably more important chill
I feel like as far as vets ruining experiences for new players this is like
not even close to the usual case
And that's a little tilting, because I don't think that should be my responsibility.
next time I'll just report formally. I got what I wanted from sparking this covo, which was understaning how people felt about this
def
What makes this game so complicated?
you're right there
Yeah well you also forgot that one of us has interaction bug and couldnt pick anyone up even if i wanted to
All the mechanics the game doesnt tell You
So the only way of knowing is asking to another person
interaction bug may be fixed without too much effort by leaving and rejoining lobby
it's unfortunate, but there is a way to remedy it
if it was host then uhhh idk
i asked if i should rejoin, people said 'nah' so i stayed
experienced players play at a very different pace and skill level so that can in some cases ruin the experience for newer players becasue they don't want to be hard carried
I didn't complain for that exactly, I just complained about you being out there doing stuff on your own with 0 communication or maybe asking "hey do you mind if I do this while you guys do that"?
Wait what, no way
This Game doesnt really need that much skill
Is mostly knowledge
Aw man
one thing I think this game really lacks is the transition between medium level player to actually semi good
there's not that many resources available
you can always ask questions but
I agree to disagree, my gameplay is like I have 30 hours in the game 
it's harder to find
Every video I watch of this game it's some dude sneaking though the whole level with a hammer
advanced mechanics guide + shooting guide
A lot of it is intuition and experience
You are called Alex, you are born with skill issue
i'm going outside i'll catch the rest of this later
have fun
Anyone who tries making this argument has likely not watched many beginners lol
People get to r2d2 being absolute beginners
(There rly isnt anything to discuss here)
I blocked whoever made that
these are two very comprehensive guides but there's a lot more aspects to the game that need guides asw
Bad guide
watched the guide still can't shoot what do I do now
wow what is going on
Uhh that’s a bug
hi sky
is Ray still drunk from ytd
😔
I think, the lashing out wasn’t necessary, and both parties (ray and Dario) should just apologise to each other
Huh, came here for the drama and found a guide I could use, ty for the info 😂
you're welcome
ray is a toxic vet because he went off and did his own thing without bothering anyone in a pub
HaniMoon for the advanced player guide(s), Gerz for the shooting guide
there's some overlap but both are very good resources
Frosty for the pub guide
that's a good tldr
in this specific case, what ray is doing is not harmful to a "beginner" at that point in the game
regardless
also why respond if theres nothing to discuss
ngl from what ray has said himself he certainly just solo carried half of the mission
Im not saying I wouldnt do it differently when playing r2c2
But doing so with any indication of what was said in the lfg post is just unnecessary
i don't think the lfg post has anything to do with this
They wanted to experience the level for the first time, and it ended with ray lashing out?
finding the boxes does not need to be carrying
clearing one zone does not need to be carrying
come on man it is Not That Deep
2 zones tbf, iirc ray said 114 and 119
3 zones
it is more a matter of trimming the fat than carrying
off topic
I Disagree on this but thats a long winded argument
I responded cuz saying someone on r2c2 isnt a beginner is just wrong
4 zones
you guys would deep a fucking flat surface
also did 118 but there was no id there so he left
I was merely pointing out that that discussion has been had before
we’re making arguments on behalf of a new player who might just not even care
This is incredibly pointless


