general

[amber solar]

i'm eatin ur public service

[digital junco]

frosty the guy you just replied to wasn't asking ab lore

[frail berry]

that last guy?

[digital junco]

it was just in his message

yeah

[stable river]

and the second guy said he wanted to find out himself

just spamming for the fun I guess

[ancient canopy]

Yeah frostty please don't spam that too much

[digital junco]

just, maybe read the messages before sending the copypasta

[frail berry]

well i mean i do it thru the search function because i'm not usually in these channels

but sure. i will from now on!

[digital junco]

not trying to be mean, just y'know, not every message with lore in it is somebody wanting to learn ab lore

[ancient canopy]

you're welcome to send it and encourage people to check the lore but try not to send it 3 or 4 times in a row

[frail berry]

i was replying to multiple people at once, but i guess i can compress it with @ s
and a single copypasta

[amber solar]

i didnt wanted to know lore either, i know lore but just not that much cause i don't

care kdmskd

[ancient canopy]

That would be better yeah. Even if you're replying to different people its still the same message being spammed

[torn inlet]

bruhhhhh

[true cipher]

My bots ran in front of my shotgun sentry

[regal merlin]

hi guys i just dl the game is there any french people up to play ? we are already 2

[torn inlet]

Hey there

[torn inlet]

You can check the LFG channels to post a lobby invite with maybe a french flag to signalize that you want french speaking people to join

.t lfg

[eternal saffron]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[torn inlet]

Otherwise you could join the french gtfo community. You can find it in #hc-europe or with this message link #hc-europe message

[amber solar]

karma for havin shotgun sentry /j

[amber solar]

boop

[digital junco]

how u all doing

[amber solar]

im
sleepy h
how bouts u

[digital junco]

dying

of a cold

that has absolutely floored me

[amber solar]

hope u ceiling soon :]

[digital junco]

me too

[amber solar]

dont die dyin is bad
u keep holdin

[true cipher]

why do people hate it?

It seems super good now

I already liked it pre change

but I felt like it was running out of ammo too fast

so the patch changed that

[digital junco]

it's a lot better without bio imo

bc it still burns through tool and shoots dead bodies

if enemies are tagged

[amber solar]

well it misses a lot of it shots, the short range doesnt help either, yeah it does shoot enemies once they r dead and it can only really be good on very specific situations

idk how much ammo it got in this patch tho

[digital junco]

58 shots

fires 80 RPM

[amber solar]

ah i still
feel like it
isnt a lot

well compared to r1 yes but i feel like it would still use a lot of ammo

[digital junco]

yeah it's definitely situated to solo/duo play a lot more

[amber solar]

yeah it's the one sentry all the tool refill on the map should go into
i only used it r1c2 cause of that lmao, i didn't used mines anywhere so all the tool could go into it and i still had mines for the last alarm

[tacit kindle]

https://www.twitch.tv/ugandanloki watching captain alex rn

[true cipher]

really? dead bodies?

cmon

My favorites are sniper and shotgun sentry. Even tho the sniper seems to not allways 1 shot

[digital junco]

it shoots dead bodies if they're bio tagged

bc it fires after they're already dead

[true cipher]

I used 3 sentries at R4B2, went pretty well until the very end

Then my shotgun sentry shot the bots and everything died

Maybe it gets fixed soon ?

[digital junco]

bro just use burst sentry

[true cipher]

I mean I can't imagine that it's hard to fix. They would probably just need to adjust the target condition and when it changes from target to non target

I hate burst

[digital junco]

like if u wanna run duos, Shotty is great

[true cipher]

It also got nerfed

[digital junco]

but shotgun already has a bigger problem

[true cipher]

I run sniper

[digital junco]

it shoots for the head

even when hed gone

[main basalt]

hey yall, new to the game; are ping differences big in this game? I live in a random far-away country so idk if I can play functionally

[true cipher]

[meager horizon]

Sniper on R4B2PE?

[true cipher]

I play with na people on a regular basis

It seems fine. You only have to be careful with moving, due to delay there's less tolerance for you to move after they get triggered

if u know what I mean

[true cipher]

na generally

Sometimes I just thrown my bots sniper sentries

and it's all cool

Made B1 this way

[meager horizon]

Was about to say. there is not much more cqb map

[true cipher]

Hel rifle seems hella strong on B2 tho

[meager horizon]

We just did it with hel revolver/mg

[true cipher]

choke points make you quadrupple kill sleepers

[digital junco]

haha pun

[meager horizon]

And some autopistols as well

[true cipher]

wait did I do a pun?

Hel autopistol

[dull jewel]

HELla

[amber solar]

yay autopistol :3

[true cipher]

Oh I see

[amber solar]

nice

[digital junco]

[meager horizon]

conclusion was : it's trash

[digital junco]

wat ;-;

[amber solar]

oh fuck off >_>

[true cipher]

The stagger is good 😠

[main basalt]

also are alt rundowns harder than R7? I find r7 hard too 😦

[meager horizon]

R4 yes, the rest is easier

[digital junco]

depends on the rundown but overall probably not

[amber solar]

r1 is the easiest u should start there

[true cipher]

I think A levels are doable with bots completly

B1 and B2 of R4 are also doable with bots

[main basalt]

you mean alt rundown 1 right?

[digital junco]

also some R7 levels are a little. .. quirky

[meager horizon]

It's really bad

[amber solar]

aham yeah

[digital junco]

looking at you R7D1

[amber solar]

u just dislike fun

[meager horizon]

Like am not gonna lie about it

[main basalt]

aight thank you!!

[dull jewel]

R3A2 is a bit shit with bots (especially if you want to mine the blood door down the hole)

[main basalt]

what is an "alt" rundown anyways

[true cipher]

I first tried it. Is it really?

[digital junco]

alternate, remake of the OG

[meager horizon]

"remastered"

[true cipher]

I also didn't prepare the main objective and still made it easily

[main basalt]

aha, great to see that they are adding them back for latecomers like me

[amber solar]

u just gotta run away and usually bots will not get killed
like
actually just run as far away as u can ldmsk

[digital junco]

how many levels have actually been signficantly changed so far

[dull jewel]

(they don't understand the concept of 'stay out of the shaft smh my head')

[digital junco]

like R3D1, kinda C1 and B1, R3A3

[meager horizon]

R4A1 kinda nerfed in secondary

Rest of R4 is kinda similar

[digital junco]

yeah and no dual alarm ;-;

[amber solar]

weren't the og alarm much easier cause u could pull both and just permafoam

[digital junco]

heard R4D2 was a little different

but no spoilers in here plz

[amber solar]

ah right sorry

[digital junco]

i literally meant for u

[meager horizon]

not there yet. Was waiting for cosmetic fix

[amber solar]

ah mdmskd

[digital junco]

ah

[amber solar]

idk i said somethin of a1 and was like "ah fuck right"

[meager horizon]

this evening tho

[digital junco]

I was able to host it actually after clearing none of R4

[amber solar]

well don't spoil this evenin pls

[digital junco]

bc of a funy bug

[meager horizon]

Bruh

[digital junco]

idk how to replicate it but it copied my R7 clears to R4

I could create a lobby for every level but E1

[meager horizon]

This game is finished And bug free

[digital junco]

bc I haven't cleared R7E1 yet

[meager horizon]

HERESY

nah it's fine

[digital junco]

bruh

[true cipher]

r7E1?

[amber solar]

very funky level

[true cipher]

Was okay

[digital junco]

yeah or any E1 for that matter

[amber solar]

whatcha mean "ok"

[true cipher]

I did it on the 2nd attempt, well first serious attempt

[amber solar]

i'm sure u did

[digital junco]

R2E1 waiting to go in blind with crew, don't have R4E1 yet, KDS Deep doesn't exist yet, and my crew got pretty demotivated after the pablo incident

[amber solar]

anyways

[amber solar]

play r6e1 :3

[digital junco]

sure I'll go pull the tank barracks on R6D3 5 times

[meager horizon]

R2E1 is a good one 👍

[digital junco]

create a faux tank error by pulling the room every time it respawns

[meager horizon]

Dedicated

[digital junco]

intentionally leave both errors on

it gonna be like nuggies cursed R5E1 PE any%

[true cipher]

Honestly Error alerts seem way worse than they actually are

[meager horizon]

The way the game was meant to be played

[digital junco]

but for Power Hungry

[true cipher]

First time I triggered one I was hyped

because I was like: oh shit, shit is going to get serious

[digital junco]

man hasn't seen R4E1 yet

[true cipher]

But now I'm like

[meager horizon]

Most are just a nuisance

[digital junco]

or R6D4

[meager horizon]

R4E1 and R2E1 have good errors

[digital junco]

the final error of D4 is spicy as fuck

[meager horizon]

Meh the last one yeah. first one not so much

[true cipher]

That's nice

[meager horizon]

Yes

[digital junco]

yeah the meatballs getting stuck in the ground can fuck off

[true cipher]

At least R4B1 was a bit challanging

And R4A3 is also kinda hard (at least with bots)

[digital junco]

bro ur gonna love R5 XD

R5A2 jumpscare

[true cipher]

I think I cleared some in R5

not sure

That's where I started I think

[amber solar]

i fear for my life when r5 comes out cause of that

[true cipher]

Is that with the first level having a generator in a deep hole?

[meager horizon]

R5A1

[true cipher]

That powers a security door

yea that's where I started

[digital junco]

R5A2 and R5B1 unironically being some of the scariest early levels for just being on crack

[meager horizon]

R5 is just wild when you look at other rundowns

[digital junco]

bruh ik

hope they change the R5C1 extreme

to like not an uplink

[stable river]

nah gotta be faithful

[meager horizon]

10 codes

keep it

[digital junco]

please I don't wanna do 24 uplink codes in one level

;-;

[meager horizon]

MOAR

[digital junco]

aaAAAA

[amber solar]

jesus christ

ok now i fear more for my life

[stable river]

R5C1 busted my balls when I first met it

rough level

[digital junco]

most of my perspective on these levels is from either gameplay from a few content creators, or from the BD rundown reviews

[meager horizon]

a big wall for a lot of folk

[digital junco]

hoping they go a little lighter on the meaningless early respawn rooms and add difficulty in a different way

[stable river]

Oh right yeah if they are gonna unlock D1 and the other C tier levels from C1 its gonna gate a lot of people

gonna be very LFG'd

[digital junco]

O_o

[stable river]

And I don't think vets are gonna want to replay it much either

[digital junco]

people gonna drop into R5D1 and think they dropped the wrong level

[stable river]

lol

I'm wondering if they are gonna change that one a lot

[digital junco]

imma be honest I'm just super excited for R5E1

cause I've heard only good things ab it

[meager horizon]

never really liked it

[stable river]

playing around the respawn mechanics is just a bit tedious

And you make a mistake and its pretty much iredeemable

[meager horizon]

once is not a problem and even mandatory, but more gets you in trouble resource wise

[amber solar]

farmin coins in pvz is so easy once u unlock the last stand thing

[raven palm]

at a certain point, when door alarms or uplinks become so long, its just a error alarm

[signal quarry]

We are having a treat today

🍆 🧀

Eggplant parmesan fellas

Hells yeah

[neat solstice]

🤔

[pseudo scaffold]

[hasty axle]

Добрый вечер. Ищу тиму для гачи залета в dungeon

[raven palm]

eggplant parm sounds bomb rn

not a vegetarian, but had one of them make me that before, and it was dooe

[torn inlet]

Didn't know Dean Takahashi had a cameo in the Mario movie as the person who plays as mario

[true cipher]

One day someone said there's max 1 aggressive artifact per zone, is that true?

[torn inlet]

Don't think it's guaranteed. I think it depends on the expedition and the heat

[true cipher]

No I mean like if there's 1 MAX. So if you find one there's no more aggressive ones in that particular zone

not map but zone

I also have the feeling that rooms that aren't mandatory hold aggressive artifacts but that's just a theory

I had probably just luck in my 4/4 cases

[torn inlet]

I don't know that specifically but I'd say there is a slim chance of there being multiple

[digital junco]

per zone yes

only 1 agressive

[true cipher]

Do we know more

Are they guaranteed in not mandatory rooms/zones?

[digital junco]

there used to be a spreadsheet

they have set spawns

[true cipher]

Noone pinned it

[digital junco]

nah like one for R6

[digital junco]

we uhh also don't usually pin stuff like that here afaik

there's a spreadsheet for R7 and I can send it ot u

[true cipher]

Would be nice

Btw. I read this: https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts
Is it still true that there are only 30 artifacts per level?

It feels like bigger levels have way more tho

[digital junco]

have literally 0 clue

[true cipher]

K

[digital junco]

i kinda stopped paying attention to artifacts bc I farmed so much Fog repulsion power in R6 it carried me all the way thru ALT R3

[raven palm]

the spawns are set per zone. few zones have an aggressive

also, ask this to gtfo-questions, they actually might know

[winter pewter]

youuuuuwwwu can stand ontop of my fog repeller

ella e e e ontop of my fog repeller elaaa e e ee

[hoary narwhal]

Can you get soft locked on R4B1?

[raven palm]

i have heard of R4C1, but not B1

[digital junco]

yes

you can

if you put cells in the wrong gen

[raven palm]

wait, did you put a cell into the incorrect gen?

most of them won't let you, but sometimes they will let you

and yes, that can softlock you

at least out of Secondary

[hoary narwhal]

BRUH, my team spent 2 hours and we can't get past it

This so fucking annoying

[raven palm]

yaaa, i am sorry man

thats a bug

[digital junco]

is it a bug?

iirc same thing happens on R2B2

[raven palm]

usually doesn't let you. but you gotta double check before you put one in

most wrong gens don't let you put the cell in. the texture suggests a metal plate covering the port

[digital junco]

yeah, it should say the gen number on the generator, double check that with the objective

[amber solar]

ahuesoooo a2 prisoner efficiency >:D
that wasnt that hard with bots ksks

was like r2c2

but not as c2

nor as r2

[digital junco]

i think my fave PE has gotta beee

either R6C3 or R7B3

[amber solar]

well overload of b3 is just like super awesome
and i like extreme but i think wouldve been noice if it did somethin to the lvl ksks

[digital junco]

yeah, not every optional has to change the level tho

also that extreme is hard enough ty

[real umbra]

[digital junco]

[real umbra]

thats me hitting u dak

[digital junco]

[amber solar]

fairs enough :3

[amber solar]

man a3 is
i didnt see a lot of it but will defo be more than one hour

[digital junco]

most R4 levels will be over an houe

[amber solar]

qwq

[vital tide]

if you're only doing main you can definitely get some of them in less than an hour

[digital junco]

oh yeah ofc

[amber solar]

but thats for weak people

[digital junco]

R4 had the best design of optional scope in my eyes, where the mains are generally shorter, easier missions, while the optionals add a lot of extra time/content

[vital tide]

I agree

[digital junco]

and GeForce users

[vital tide]

If you need someone to host so you can safely disconnect/reconnect to get more than an hour lmk

[amber solar]

:[

[amber solar]

link me k

[vital tide]

what does the k stand for there

[amber solar]

idk

u tell me

u used the lmk

[digital junco]

link me krossaints

[amber solar]

link me kaleidoscope

[meager horizon]

41 min

[amber solar]

im sorry im not a pro mr easy rundowns

[neat solstice]

It's not that it's easy
It's skill issue

[sturdy bear]

Oooooooo burn

Oops

[neat solstice]

Made it to extract and died 98%🤡

[sturdy bear]

Rip

[amber solar]

sad

[meager horizon]

I'm just giving you ballparks.

[amber solar]

thats why i said it

im stealin ur windows

[meager horizon]

that should be easily feasible.

[amber solar]

easily for someone like u

u just dont think how not skilled players play

i crouch to kill sleepin enemies sometimes

[sturdy bear]

What is happening?

[neat solstice]

My mom can bot R4A3PE

So what does that make you

[meager horizon]

it was "blind" first time running it. it can be way faster thats why I say even YOU can do that in 40 min

basically I have more faith in you than you have yourself

[amber solar]

keep that faith for ur runs skilletface

[warm tundra]

did they retroactively add checkpoints to Rundowns 1-4? I haven't played since 6 launched

[amber solar]

i dont need it

[amber solar]

nope og rundowns dont have em

i mean

[sturdy bear]

It shouldn't really matter how long it takes

[amber solar]

alt r1-r5 rundowns

[meager horizon]

I don't need it 🙂

[warm tundra]

Okay cool

[meager horizon]

nope

[amber solar]

then give it to a bird on the street

[meager horizon]

sure, even the bird can do A3PE in 41 min

[sturdy bear]

Bruh

Who cares how long it takes

[neat solstice]

It's literally just go to extract that's it

[sturdy bear]

You can do it in 11 mins and not have fun

[meager horizon]

he does cause his geforce now quits after an hour

[sturdy bear]

I know

[amber solar]

yeah then ill do it my way u can go back to ur e1 runs pls

[meager horizon]

well there ya go

[neat solstice]

That's def a fun killer right there

Rip

[sturdy bear]

And that's why I play with slendo

So slendo are you having trouble with a level atm?

[amber solar]

no i just did one run

like, extreme and main but quit a bit after extreme cause i needed to do other stuff

it just looked a bit long

i just gotta see

thank chu tho

pats

[sturdy bear]

I get what you mean. Although that Dosent sound as bad as messing up A2 pe because you needed all the power cells

[amber solar]

... u need em?

[sturdy bear]

Yea. For extreme you need them

[amber solar]

i mean
yeah u need one ksks

i did it today that was noice

[neat solstice]

What was a2 again?

[sturdy bear]

The cryo objective items

[sturdy bear]

Yea but my dumbass didn't have any because I plugged both in before listing the cells

[neat solstice]

Oh that, 's ok

[amber solar]

ksks lmao :3
well at least then u knew not to

do that

[sturdy bear]

Yea Dx

[amber solar]

yeah ksks but well
i imagine ur face just starin at the room seein the unpowered doors like

ah :]

[sturdy bear]

Nah. I put the cells in and then went to the terminal to list it

"Eh ill just see what its about"

Objective: Murder someone

[amber solar]

objective stack updated: ah this is where we die

[sturdy bear]

It wasn't too bad but I guess it was because it's an a tier

I'm probably gonna run it again and not dumbass this time

[amber solar]

good lucks!!

hehe finally im ahead of u in a level :3

[sturdy bear]

I beat it. Just didn't get PE

[amber solar]

then im still ahead >:3

[digital junco]

he ahead in drip tho

[sturdy bear]

:(

[amber solar]

:D

[sturdy bear]

Well time to change that

[amber solar]

okii ksks good lucks >:3

[sturdy bear]

So what levels have you beaten so far?

[amber solar]

only those KMSKDM

a1 a2 both 100%

[sturdy bear]

i see

[amber solar]

u see

[sturdy bear]

Nope :)

[amber solar]

yes :]
u have eyes

use em

[sturdy bear]

Nah

Where you blindfold?

[amber solar]

nuh

why would i b

[sturdy bear]

;)

[amber solar]

o///o

[sturdy bear]

Hahahaha

[uncut echo]

.

[amber solar]

dot

[sturdy bear]

Lol

[amber solar]

:O

[digital junco]

wait did jedi survivor come out today?

[meager horizon]

yep

[digital junco]

lol

looked pretty good

[meager horizon]

still need to finish the first one

[digital junco]

me too lol

[raven palm]

yesterday!

[meager horizon]

guess I'll have to put that on the to do list. It was pretty good as well but I just STOPPED at some point

[stable river]

A tier complete 🙂

[frosty imp]

Hm.

[sturdy bear]

nice work

[frosty imp]

I heard Jedi Survivors has way too many issues to be playable

[chrome current]

Helloo, is there a proper place go report bugs?
I found that the high caliber pistol only loads to 5 bullets as apposed 6 when it is reloaded. Idk if you all have faced this problem too?

[chrome current]

Good job!!

[frosty imp]

It's also not that great on the consoles too in term of performance

[amber solar]

theres #1049599987878723635 but its already posted

so

dont worry

[chrome current]

Thank you!

[glass terrace]

right before leaving us out of nowhere

[ancient canopy]

could you send a dm to @eternal saffron about it

[glass terrace]

i wish i was recording to show it

[pliant dove]

bro fucked us lol

[wise breach]

Yo yo, when somebody picks up an artifact is it global? Or does it only reward the person who picked it up?

[warm tundra]

global

[wise breach]

On god thats wild I was tryna be a greedy weasel

[sturdy bear]

Global as in for everyone in your lobby

[wise breach]

No love for the bots 😦

[sturdy bear]

Nah. Bots are op as is

[undone fern]

"going loud!" me standing in a silent room with my hammer out "wtf ? could you not!" yeah... op alright xD no

or vice versa dude man bot running around with melee weapon out after the shooting starts lol not moving when ordered to yatta yatta etc. the list is endless.

[amber solar]

going loud only if u wake up the room :]
or u gottem behind ur back

[undone fern]

if your like half handicapped and play like a sea sponge , I guess they could seem OP from your perspective xD

[amber solar]

me fr
no but ok bots arent like super broken but they kinda are in some aspects, like with bio, in stealth or that kinda stuff

[undone fern]

things that require human perception yeah, its a computer reading data instead of reacting to visual/auditory stimuli. always gonna be better in that case besides on the higher end of players. but in general they are kinda return to monke most the time

and a royal pain in the arse

[amber solar]

i mean they r useful, i do almost all my runs 3 bots and they arent bad
u just need to adapt to their playstyle, and not hope they adapt to ur playstyle

[undone fern]

purely expendable turret monkeys that hold the shit I cant carry 🙂 end

(if you can even get them to pick shit up)

[amber solar]

mh i guess im just too used to completin stuff with em

been usin em since r7 so

got used to their hijinks

is that the word?

maybe not but u get it :3

[undone fern]

same honestly , doesnt mean they are good at their jobs. tolerable doesnt equal good

[frosty imp]

Just make bots shoot the enemies in stealth

[undone fern]

would I rather play solo, fuck no

so they at least have the "desperation" plea

[amber solar]

i think its, a lil below good but not bad, its just a lot of things to adapt to

[amber solar]

i tried they didnt lmao

me opening doors with alerted enemies behind me

they dont wake em up its such a blessing

[undone fern]

all Iw ant is when It ell you to stand inside the door, fuckin do it

they could be storm troopers with their aim for all I care. JUST MOVE!

[amber solar]

they do hit their shots a lot i think its more so a 'weapons' thing
if case u didnt know give the bots automatic long range weapons, assault rifle/burst rifle and machinegun/heavy assault rifle work reeally well

[undone fern]

the breaking stealth happens all the time in pubs so thats whatever honestly , but the "move here" order should be flawless

if nothing else worked, thats the one that needs to

[amber solar]

eh fair enough in alarms is really hard to mine doors behind u unless its a duo then its so significantly easy oh god i miss duos
but yeah w/o combat approachin a door
slowly funnily works a lot
depends on the tile cause if the door is close to a wall they do have some problems

[undone fern]

yeah their pathing sucks ass

which is odd considering how levels are designed

should be fairly simple to program them on a FIXED route

[amber solar]

fixed? oh no that wouldnt work
cause they do need to follow scans, they need to unlock boxes n lockers, ping items, go around props
if they had a fixed like pathing it would break fairly often and commands such as 'Pick up the objective item' just wouldnt work

and thats a command every bot player exploits

[undone fern]

naha s in the routes they are traveling on are fixed.

its not procedural maps

with "new" obstacles to overcome every time going in. its 6-8 maps all with the same rather small layout

same terrain , same door placements. everything is identical beside locker spawns and such. it should be fairly simple to get them to path decent enough with such limited external issues

[amber solar]

small?
um no some maps are pretty massive, and rooms aso vary a lot since doors props and even some elements of them change, like if theres a path to another area or zone or whatever
so it would need to be like manual made since theres so many levels, not counting all of the lil details again like followin scans and evading enemies

and of course this is all takin into account makin it, since it would take a lot of time

[undone fern]

gtfo maps are not large, by any comparable standard

[amber solar]

r7b2 is kinda huge, r1b1 with all of its zones can be a bit large, r7e1 has-- idk if this is spoilers but some zones that cant just be pathed

cause they are too open

[undone fern]

the average run down is less square footage than 2 levels in left for dead

another notoriously small mapped game

with janky bots

which is a decade older and they work better xD

[amber solar]

idk l4d, but if some of these missions take like couple hours is for a reason too

also this game is not l4d

i might not know a lot about it

but it just isnt

[undone fern]

your right, L4D is far more complex

[amber solar]

maybe, but gtfo is very different to just do somethin as like 'paths' cause theres too many pieces

even bots try to avid shootin enemies

they strafe a lot

[undone fern]

theya re very similar games though in almost every conceivable way.

[amber solar]

i feel like people wouldnt agree

cause it isnt the first time someone has come around sayin that

[undone fern]

4 player coop with limited procedural resource spawns with definitive end and start points on set maps with set objectives.

legit cookie cutter experience

and the reason most GTFO players are L$D fans as well lol

[amber solar]

as much as i like just havin convos i dont like this comparison so im just gonna stop talkin

ive heard it enough its kinda tirin

[undone fern]

lol

[amber solar]

u can prob search lf4 on the search bar and like see the comparisons and counter arguments

if u so with

[undone fern]

sorry your taking the comparisson out of context

[amber solar]

and u can also suggest the bots thing on #gtfo-chat and the email 10C has

[undone fern]

"shrugs"

the point is its a decade older and the bots path betetr

[amber solar]

thats roleplayin /j

[undone fern]

it shouldnt be that difficult

[amber solar]

kinda is

[undone fern]

and btw whats wrong with comparing GTFO too L$D that your so bothered by? they are both great games. one would think being put in the same class as a trople A classic would be a complement, considering they are an indy dev. not sure I understand the issue with it

ive not seen any debates on the subject in ehre

as you say

so not sure what the context is there

[amber solar]

yeah its just that i dont think its comparable since gtfo its a much more, hardcore slow burner tension game, and yes theres been a lot of comparisons between the two and
its not comparin it to a bigger game, is just that both dont have a lot in common apart from like, trailer footage, as 4 person guns game with zombies, but the experience is just different
again i havent played l4d, ive just seen some descriptions n some gameplay, but its like comparin it to killing floor

and this game just isnt killing floor

u prob didnt found em cause its been a while too

[undone fern]

atmosphere ? really? xD

[amber solar]

since we had one of those

but again prob searchin it can yield results

also not just atmosphere like- core gameplays, like the sneaking

[undone fern]

now killing floor would be a terrible comparisson

nothing alike

in any way besides being 4 player coop

its an arcade horde mode shooter, completely different genre

THAT I could see peeps taking some issue with. but L4D is the same genre as gtfo so. yeah I jsut dont get it. The atmosphere/pacing isnt enough to separate the experiences on that level

[undone fern]

these are kinda off topic issues to what we were discussing though. The bot performance,

thats the topic. whether the games are similar is an off shoot side track

my point was , in a VERY similar play space , decade old bots perform better

time for the devs to do some learning 🙂

[amber solar]

yeah but that would break even puttin a sentry down

[undone fern]

no harm in standing on the shoulder of giants

[amber solar]

cause they would go off their paths

again i dont think this is a fix but maybe im wrong

u can ask the opinions of a lot of other people

in the gtfo chats

i think it would just break a lot of the commands, and would be really hard to manage

like a fog turbine- just wouldnt work at all

[undone fern]

what would break a lot of commands?

[amber solar]

the pathing

the line pathing

[undone fern]

I have suggested a specific fix?

"pathing" is a term for interacting with/moving through an envirment

not a term that sugegsts a train track style programing of the bots

you cant have a fixed set path with a live bot unless its a cutscene or some shit

the experience is dynamic

so , yeah. I never suggested that. think you missunderstood what i was saying

[amber solar]

sorry- english is my fault
i
created it im 700 years old
but u did said FIXED pathing, u did suggested the idea

[amber solar]

fixed route

[undone fern]

an unchanging map per drop is fixed

fixed means unchanging

maps in GTFO are fixed routes

and yes It shouldnt be difficult to program pathing in a fixed route

its not a sandbox

[amber solar]

again we come back to the same u say it would be 'easy' but it would break a lot of the commands

[undone fern]

lol betetr pathing would break commands?

no sir

no

xD

[amber solar]

better pathing no but a fixed route for bots would

[undone fern]

betetr pathing emans not running into walls

AGAIN i NEVER SUGEGSTED FiXED PATHS FOR BOTS BUD

MOVE ON

[amber solar]

my english is not good enough for this

im sorry

im just very stupid when it comes to this language

[undone fern]

lol aight man

[amber solar]

and im just not understanding

[undone fern]

no its not you

english is fucking dumb

and thats coming from an american xD

[amber solar]

cause u constantly mention 'fixed paths' and we are talkin how bots have bad pathing

so my head is just dyin

[undone fern]

welcome to the laungage where 1 word can mean 6 things and 6 words that all sound the same mean different shit lol

100% not you

[frosty imp]

English funny

Their there they're

[amber solar]

it kinda is but-
if u mean- the game has 'fixed paths', technically, they are the maps
but bots cant have manual paths for those so its automatic for every single room, but it would be better if they had better pathing

[timid sable]

Just got back into GTFO recently. Sniper or Burst sentry?

[amber solar]

burst

[frosty imp]

ie ei

[amber solar]

sniper is good on long hallways

[frosty imp]

Thief Their

[amber solar]

but needs biotracker

and burst us just more like, universal

and doesnt need a specific context

it can work better on more scenarios

[undone fern]

sniper for doors burst for suppression

[amber solar]

sniper for doors? if they go into a hallway maybe

[undone fern]

same old shit, place sniper sideways on a door. penentration kills all on the door

[amber solar]

sentries dont have penetration

[undone fern]

xD

[amber solar]

none of em

only hel weaponry

unless u mean another thing

but penetration its like hittin 2 enemies in a single shot right

2 or more

also put a mine in the door it works better than havin a sentry behind it

when the enemies break the door the mine activates and the wave dies

always put em horizontally too since they come out in a line

[timid sable]

Yeah. We've been using the cfoam + mine strat to clear big waves

[amber solar]

yeah pretty noice
i forgot those two on r4a1

[undone fern]

o.O who in the world thought that needed to be explained xD

[amber solar]

had a funky time

well some people dont know the combo

[undone fern]

legit day one rundown 1 strat

[amber solar]

its very usual for people to think sentries are the best

and so they put em behind doors

when behind doors its the worst place for em usually

cause they work better if the door is open and u let the enemies trickle in instead of piling up

[undone fern]

thatw as not true for a long time because of sweet spot damage multipliers applying to turrets

for a considerable ammount of time

when they got patched , yes it became less effecient to use them behind a foamed door

and sniper turrets always had pen, not sure when that got changed... either that or im remembering incorrectly (I dont think I am tbh)

[amber solar]

no sniper turrets never had penetration, only hel weaponry like the hel rifle, hel gun or noe hel autopistol
but the problem is if u have a door foamed, u put a mine and the wave its gone, with a sentry, itll shoot some enemies, not all of em, when the door breaks they will come at you at the same time and the sentry wont shoot the ones that come after them as efficiently because of the positioning

if its pointed at an open door, the sentry shoots more with more time to aim, the enemies trickle down so u can kill em and u dont lose the foam nor the door

[undone fern]

AutoTek 51 RSG Sniper Sentry originally had penetration on release in RUNDOWN 4. This feature was removed alongside the Precision Multiplier's from all turrets in rundown 5.

ok so , no go on the doors then now 😛

[amber solar]

... im gonna search that cause if its true i didnt know

[undone fern]

I knew I remembered them having pen though

I must have overlooked it getting removed ...yikes..

been using the same this whole time xD

[amber solar]

nope, no im searchin in the wiki old versions none of em say nothin about penetration

no i dont think it had it

[undone fern]

To the patch notes mobile batman!

[amber solar]

u can search

i found the change to 'sentries dont get weakspot damages bonus'

but ddidnt found nothin of hel

nah only weapons

[timid sable]

Should we go double sniper sentry if someone is using biotracker?

[digital junco]

no

usually you want at least 1 burst

i mean you can !

but I wouldn't recommend it

[amber solar]

only very few lvls would benefit from that

like
giant waves coming constantly from afar

[limpid pond]

Is there some technique with the motion tracker? I've seen full room sized waves that only get like 3 scans

[digital junco]

idk, @dense wolf u know how?

ur my resident bio boy

[dense wolf]

Range is a bit weird mostly

Best time to ping enemies is to get them during a choke point so your range isn't an issue

[digital junco]

@limpid pond ^

thx sabre

[amber solar]

look at that bio person being a bio person :3

[digital junco]

sabre is goated bio

[amber solar]

do they beat the bots

[dense wolf]

Unfortunately to be as good as the bots, you're gonna need to call out if you miss any

Otherwise you risk surprises that will kill your mates

[digital junco]

close enough to the point where we don't use bishop for bio

it's much more worth to have ur teammate miss a few sleepers than not have reliable bio information in stealth when you need it

also bots with bio tend to act a little stupid sometimes

where they ping 3 times in a row bc they missed 2 sleepers

[amber solar]

hey sleepers dont wanna feel left out

think of their feelings!!

[boreal bough]

[digital junco]

no

[amber solar]

D:

such apathy...

[dense wolf]

this usually results in the bot being out of position really badly, which is the main plus of player bio

[amber solar]

bots just stick with u, they love u

[ebon steppe]

dusty finally alive!!!!

but working in 3 sleep hour for two days

[digital junco]

D:

[ebon steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/headbanging-cat-headbang-cat-metal-cat-heavy-metal-cat-gif-21213763

[frosty imp]

Hm.

Dusty needs snuggly sleepy

[ebon steppe]

dusty needs 90 hours of consecutive sleep

[frosty imp]

wha

so much sleepy

[ebon steppe]

hehe

[digital junco]

read that as 90 centimeters

XD

[polar elm]

hi

[sturdy bear]

Hi

[sturdy bear]

Yea dusty gets smol when they sleep

[ebon steppe]

dusty always smol

[sturdy bear]

Cute :>

[ebon steppe]

hiiiiii cuties

[sturdy bear]

hiiiiiiiiiiiii

[frosty imp]

Hello cutest dusty

[boreal bough]

yesssss dusty is alive

[digital junco]

Biggest cutie is back :3

[sturdy bear]

this

[ebon steppe]

hiiiiiii adorable sweethearts

[sturdy bear]

:D

[torn inlet]

go to sleep

[ebon steppe]

i in bed

[torn inlet]

sleep

snooze

[ebon steppe]

i sleeps for class uwu

[sturdy bear]

no :(

[sturdy bear]

how is?

[polar elm]

me?

[sturdy bear]

yea you

how are you?

[polar elm]

not good

[sturdy bear]

:<

what happened?

[polar elm]

bad week

[sturdy bear]

im sorry to hear that :(

[polar elm]

happens

it is what it is

[sturdy bear]

unfortunately yea

[polar elm]

[sturdy bear]

:(

[digital junco]

Ok nini u all

i sleep now

[pseudo scaffold]

Wake the fuck up. we have a city to burn

[digital junco]

O_o

[pseudo scaffold]

cyberpunk reference

[sturdy bear]

nini cuite

[digital junco]

Nini!!!

[frosty imp]

🏙️ 🔥🔥🔥

[sturdy bear]

uh oh

[tulip stag]

[brazen charm]

👋

[undone birch]

How's it going, gays

Tomorrow I can finally try out r4

When r5 tho

[bleak marten]

you haven't even finished r4 stop wanting r5

[brazen charm]

Haven’t even finished R1 and I want R5

[undone birch]

WHEN R6

[bleak marten]

STOP THIRSTING FOR UNRELEASED RUNDOWNS

[sturdy bear]

r6.5 is so hot

[vast gust]

alive boy

[vast gust]

when you stop being french

[undone birch]

I'LL NEVER STOP THIRSTING

[undone birch]

unfrench ur fries

[vast gust]

Great

now they're thicker

and actually have substance to them

:P

[bleak marten]

jokes on you, I'll just make mashed potatoes then

[undone birch]

😭

[vast gust]

nah we still have roasted potatos

fucking banging

[bleak marten]

trueeee

roasted potatoes my beloved

[vast gust]

salt, pepper and some herbs for those babies

[bleak marten]

mmm

melt cheese on top

[vast gust]

you slice em, boil them and then roast em

super fluffy on the inside

[bleak marten]

beautiful

[vast gust]

crispy on the outside

[undone birch]

I'm cringy on the outside

[bleak marten]

but are you fluffy on the inside?

[undone birch]

No I'm also cringy

[bleak marten]

oh understandable

[neat solstice]

quote of the day

[true cipher]

I just tested a shotgun sentry with +68% speed for fun . This shit was a machinegun in shotgun style

It was fun but damn inefficient because it unloaded 5 rounds on a single sleeper therefor burning through its ammo.
I could imagine it's good to put in front of a door to fight off waves trying to break through but other than that it's not good because of the ammo waste

[bleak marten]

yeah, it's just kinda bad

[undone birch]

Only way to make it sustainable is having someone with refill bonus or something

[chilly geyser]

You called?

[vast gust]

No

Roasted potatos you daft fuck

Not crisps

[chilly geyser]

Same thing

[vast gust]

No they're not.

You're generally fried.

[chilly geyser]

Eat me

[vast gust]

No.

Go ask an American

[chilly geyser]

Okay

Oh

[vast gust]

how about you mind your own business :D

Can't tell the difference between a crisp and a roasted potato

ffs

[chilly geyser]

A bit mean don’t you think?

[vast gust]

I don't argue with food :x

[chilly geyser]

More so a snack than food…

[vast gust]

A snack is food

[chilly geyser]

It’s a snack tho

[undone birch]

Don't listen to her

I'll eat u

[chilly geyser]

I know you will

[vast gust]

Monique no!

[undone birch]

It's not a promise it's a threat

[vast gust]

It's full of air

[undone birch]

[chilly geyser]

Only 90%

[undone birch]

How could u

I just wanted to get fat but noooo let's remove all the bad stuff and replace with air

[chilly geyser]

How far have you girls made it in GTFO?

[vast gust]

like

-5000M?

[vast gust]

no

not allowed

[chilly geyser]

Oh

[undone birch]

I need to start r4 and complete r7

[bleak marten]

me when my usual group just stopped existing

mfs have weddings to go to

[chilly geyser]

Good luck 👍🏽

[frosty imp]

Hm.

[chilly geyser]

Smh

[undone birch]

Smh

[bleak marten]

smh

[undone birch]

Imagine marrying someone

And it's not me

[bleak marten]

you wanna get married?

[wooden oyster]

ayo?

wtf did I just walk in on?

[bleak marten]

a lack of potato chips

[undone birch]

Yes. Everyone should marry me

Once again this is a threat

I'm the best crunchy rat you'll ever see

[bleak marten]

i don't think you're marriage material enough

[undone birch]

💔

[bleak marten]

i also don't know you, so my opinion has the weight of an electron

[frosty imp]

I won't marry you

[undone birch]

I knew it you hate women

[vast gust]

damn fr?

[undone birch]

Yes

[frosty imp]

smh saying I hate women

Only assumptions

[true cipher]

Why do I read a conversation between potato chips and people in the gtfo chat

Well gtfo discord* my bad

[bleak marten]

where else but in the gtfo discord?

[halcyon glacier]

nothin more relevant than snacking on chip during an expedition

[bleak marten]

ikr

[vast gust]

Idk man

This place has made some unholy things

[undone birch]

And we won't even mention #sane-general

[neat solstice]

where

[chilly geyser]

Trust me tarkov chat is way more random than this lol

[true cipher]

[brazen charm]

GTFO chat is surprisingly wholesome idk

[undone birch]

It's only in sugondese

[brazen charm]

No

No

No

[neat solstice]

why u gotta do me like that

[hybrid oasis]

bro i need to snag someone

[upper hearth]

Please refrain from posting random off topic videos into the text channels here.

[true cipher]

I didn't know that you could mod the game

[sturdy bear]

Uh oh

[torn inlet]

Luigi's Mansion

[torn inlet]

Cooper's Mansion

[digital junco]

COOPY

god i miss him

[frosty imp]

Hm.

Doug

[digital junco]

Indeed

[amber solar]

.t modding

[eternal saffron]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[amber solar]

heHEhe

[obtuse inlet]

Mornin!

[amber solar]

hoi!

[true cipher]

Man bots need better survival instincts

Big sleepers are the nemesis of every bot

as soon as the players go down they line up to get slapped

[amber solar]

yeah but they also work decently when u go for em sneakin

ive mastered the bonks with bots

sometimes

[main basalt]

just got wiped at the exist scan 😦

[obtuse inlet]

Never tried playing with bots. :p

[true cipher]

I'm trying B2

[obtuse inlet]

I guess I just enjoy playing with people

[true cipher]

So far I did everything with bots

[main basalt]

the lack of checkpoints is devastating for us noobs

[true cipher]

I feel like I have better chances with bots than with players

I dunno

[obtuse inlet]

That's quite the achievement imo

[true cipher]

players just rush rooms and wake everything up -> heavy dmg on team

[amber solar]

sad, but hey! that means u got to the end

thats mad progress

[amber solar]

i mean me too but sometimes the option is not there lmao

[obtuse inlet]

that is truuuuu

[main basalt]

legit spent like half an hour looking for the HSU because we didn't know what it looked like hahah

hope we can succeed next time

[obtuse inlet]

or it just happens that all the toxic people are going your way lol

[true cipher]

Trying overload R4B2 with bots

I think I got quite far

[amber solar]

good luck, u got this >:]

[obtuse inlet]

I'm about to start r4 here real soon. I think it'll be fun 😛

[true cipher]

Does it help to skip the "main objective" to do the overload first?

[main basalt]

thank you guys :3

[true cipher]

in R4B2?

[amber solar]

ive had some funky experiences but i just
joke no matter what im such a pro of makin people uncomfy with jokes

[amber solar]

does it look like ive done r4b2

thats a question funky person for #gtfo-related-questions

:D

[obtuse inlet]

The uncomfy jokes are the best though xD

[amber solar]

yeah i love gettin those people like 'what the fuck' and just seein em leave
thats my way to deal with em

some people choose violence others just disconnects, i joke till they r gone

[obtuse inlet]

You seem really cool. Hope to play with you at some point

[amber solar]

maybs :]
the way i play tho is super
funky lmao

cause my normal pc cant handle gtfo so i use a service that lets me play but i only got one hour to do it n stuff

so i just speedrun most levels

[obtuse inlet]

Big Oof. Gotta speed run everything lol

Are you going to get a better PC maybe? Prices have been going down compared to a year ago

I think that was only due to GPU gouging though

[amber solar]

maybs hopefully i do get a better
thing
at all
but i could also pay in the meantime for 6 hours but

idk when to do it

since the game just updates like crazy

[obtuse inlet]

The crazy amount of updates does suck, but I definitely enjoy that they are constantly making changes. Most producers just throw out junk and expect you to just bend over then give your money afterwards. I'm rather happy with gtfo overall. Just wish my friends would get into it lol

Wish the matchmaking worked too lol

[amber solar]

i mean it doesnt suck i love gettin new rundowns is just idk when to do it cause i dont wanna miss any
levels ksmdk

also yeah but well we have the LFG

good enough

[obtuse inlet]

I started when rundown 7 was the only thing available, so I missed all the run downs when they were originally released lol

[amber solar]

same :D
but well im hopin to play em now in the alts
i need r6 ive seen some of it its so good a

[obtuse inlet]

Good Luck!

[amber solar]

thank chu :]
i mean good luck for everyone cause we hope it comes out soonish lmao

[true cipher]

So close to R4B2 with bots

[true cipher]

I tried it. It get significantly easier

So if you wanna do overload, just do that one before you do main mission

[amber solar]

im gonna do the fourth objective

[meager horizon]

It does

[true cipher]

Man, I always make it so far with bots and then a bot decides to run into my HEL Rifle

And we all die

Man, can't they just stop moving? I mean they don't move anyway when in danger

[meager horizon]

It's ok. you'll have to drop em eventually anyways

[true cipher]

But they move when not in danger

Just trying to get as far as I can with bots

I don't really enjoy playing with random people. Bad experience

My last 3 teams where always kinda . I'm honestly doing better with bots

[meager horizon]

And it's admirable. I'll hear how far you've come when the time comes to drop em

[true cipher]

I guess C

[odd carbon]

Main only I guess you can do anything with bots R4 wise? (perhaps not R4E1)

[true cipher]

Not sure how B3 will turn out, I've never played it

[meager horizon]

E1 is the only ones I think are impossible with bots

Well and R7D1 is disgustinly RNG if with bots

but technically possible legit still

[true cipher]

I feel like they should never improve the bot ai for better survivability Otherwise players become obsolete

[odd carbon]

I mean, they dont wake anything up, they dont care for fog or darkness or infection

[true cipher]

or fog

aimbot

ammo efficient

they're giga

perma ping

[odd carbon]

I'd just want them to have a "stay in this room" command but at this point I feel like they're doing fine already

[true cipher]

You just can't do multiple things at once tbh

Like foaming doors and doing scans

[odd carbon]

They only fuck up sometimes when they forget they can shoot for some reason during alarms

Honestly double terminal uplinks (corrupted uplinks or however you want to call them) are kind of their main weakspot IMHO

[pseudo scaffold]

My favorite ability of bots

Silently breaking padlocks

[placid iron]

Wait. Breaking padlocks can wake them up?

[amber solar]

:D

if sleepers r too close yes

[brazen charm]

I love it when I silently take out a sleeper

Then one on the other side of the room who wasn’t close wakes up

But the one which was kissing him is chill

Like fuck going quiet am I right

[amber solar]

remember if the enemy is glowin they detect from farther away

if they arent they dont notice their surroundings a lot

[main basalt]

got my friend to play this game but it's kinda annoying how he runs into a room and aggros every sleeper ngl

how to I explain to him that this game is mostly sneaking? or am I understanding the game wrong

[dull jewel]

negative reinforcement should help convince him to stop doing that soon enough

[amber solar]

let em run free and then notice how his ammo just drains and drains and drains :]

and then when its the next alarm just go like 'hah told u'

[dull jewel]

maybe close the door behind him and C-foam it just to be sure

[amber solar]

yeah let em run into a room full of enemies, close the door, slowly walk waway

[main basalt]

hahah hopefully, but he is kinda stubborn so it's a long road ahead

[dull jewel]

c-foam the door behind him

[raven palm]

Send a message
E:caps lock

[main basalt]

LMAO I'll do that next time

[amber solar]

[boreal yoke]

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[amber solar]

.t lfg

[eternal saffron]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[plush flower]

It was just for us to rejoin him cause of connection issues

[amber solar]

ah

if u can send it on dms ksmdk

[raven palm]

or in an underused lfg channel lol

[winter pewter]

🐈

[meager horizon]

kinda both

[main basalt]

I do feel like I'm trying to stealth too much sometimes ngl

[meager horizon]

the main focus is def stealth. But that focus might shift slightly. Just expect a lot of curveballs and enjoy the game 🙂

[main basalt]

I would like to be more aggressive, but I find it hard to dodge the melee tentacles hahah

[vital tide]

They have a decent range but a rather small angle they can hit at so you're better off sidestepping to dodge than backing up if that helps

[digital junco]

i'm baaaaack

that performance was so much fun

[tacit vector]

wasup yall

[amber solar]

hoii

[amber solar]

oh hey what perfomance did u acted in a theater :]

[digital junco]

nah playing in an an hour long performance with my college pep band

The Hay Set aka What Horses Eat (6)
Hey Song (2 minutes)
Hey Brother (2 minutes)
Hey Baby (2 minutes)

Let's Change it Up (6)
25 or 6 to 4, Swung 2 minutes
Wipeout, but swap out drum solo for not just quads... Pass it around 2 minutes
Vehicle, Actual Tempo (for about 8 (maybe 4) bars, then revert) 2 minutes

Angrimal (It get's more angri... 8)
JAnimal (Pop)
Treynimal (Grunge)
Rage!

Old School (8):
Rock Lobster
Buttercup
Sweet Caroline
In The Stone

Rock Icons (8):
Crazy Train
Bohemian Rhapsody

Pop Icons (7)
Every Time We Touch
I Want You Back

Emo Set: (6)
My Songs Know
Blink-182
You’re Gonna Go Far Kid

Pride Set (6):
Born This Way
Hooked On a Feeling
Industry Baby

Pep Band Set(5):
Holiday
Free Bird
Eye of The Tiger

this was the setlist

[rare reef]

TLDR those are some boring songs

[amber solar]

woh