So
#gtfo-chat
steady terrace
stuck fractal
oooooh thats a bit of an issue
ok I actually DONT remember how to play l4d2 casually so ill try
slow bay
Is it just the afk go toilet bit?
granite cairn
Is it just the afk go toilet bit?
no
steady terrace
ok I actually DONT remember how to play l4d2 casually so ill try
I can't play any game casually anymore 🥀 it's a mindset issue
gaunt nacelle
Is it just the afk go toilet bit?
imploder is soloing the code 3 room i pulled
gaunt nacelle
elite ball knowledge req
wicked solstice
dawg this first zone is huge
stuck fractal
I can't play any game casually anymore 🥀 it's a mindset issue
ok I just mean not speedrunning
granite cairn
I dont see it then
look at the pipes
stuck fractal
expert realism is like decently hard
steady terrace
Fair
Im similar with Celeste
gaunt nacelle
look at the pipes
btw i joined that vc meowed and then left
granite cairn
btw i joined that vc meowed and then left
thats evil
slow bay
look at the pipes
Okay im just blind
What is it
gaunt nacelle
Okay im just blind
What is it
glowwie
steady terrace
expert realism is like decently hard
I wanna do all campaigns on this, but like, Normal can be a bit fucked up so I'm low-key scared
gaunt nacelle
stuck fractal
I wanna do all campaigns on this, but like, Normal can be a bit fucked up so I'm...
we can probably duo all campaigns on expert if we lock in vut idl about expert realism
id atleast want a third
gaunt nacelle
we can probably duo all campaigns on expert if we lock in vut idl about expert r...
Surely i join in
Never touched l4d2
stuck fractal
expert is like fine you have to learn how keep commons off of you
cuz they hit like a trucj
granite cairn
Oh legit just the glowstick
Thought it was something more interesting
it took a lot of effort for that (it took only 5 mins)
gaunt nacelle
So like barbarians from cr spawns icic
steady terrace
we can probably duo all campaigns on expert if we lock in vut idl about expert r...
Itd have to be weekends if we're serious abt this
I got school for the next 10 weeks before next holidays
gaunt nacelle
Wait are barbarians even common cards
stuck fractal
they hit for 20 and its a horde enemy
gaunt nacelle
L ball knowledge
stuck fractal
Itd have to be weekends if we're serious abt this
I got school for the next 10 w...
yeah sure
it wont take long
but I also am awake when you get home from school id assume
if you get home at like 3pm
I think I know your time zone
steady terrace
if you get home at like 3pm
It's like 3pm AEST
stuck fractal
i think thats midnight for me
stuck fractal
Surely l4d2 is like exactly like gtfo
I mean my skill definitely transferred into gtfo
steady terrace
My gtfo skill has improved surely that means l4d2 is like piss easy now
stuck fractal
gtfo is significantly easier casually
i LIED
I meant l4d2
l4d2 below expert is pretty nothing
steady terrace
Ggs
Yea, I noticed a massive difficulty jump from l4d2 Compared to gtfo when I started
stuck fractal
gtfo is def the hardest game ive played that's just hard right out of the gate
every other game I feel like you have to make hard for yourself
gaunt nacelle
Is this w rizz?
steady terrace
gtfo is def the hardest game ive played that's just hard right out of the gate
I think tech wise gtfo is definitely the hardest game I've played
Knowledge wise it'd definitely VoidStranger
hasty bobcat
kinda insane
stuck fractal
jesus ok
granite cairn
Is this w rizz?
nah its mogging
gaunt nacelle
😭
stuck fractal
LOL
gaunt nacelle
Free fog turbine though
stuck fractal
all im hearing is its not impossible
tacit shoal
someone should do levels with like the best possible seed
and see how fast they can get it
wraith marsh
LOL
burnt flume
do you wanna go up 2 ladders for your bulkhead key
gaunt nacelle
someone should do levels with like the best possible seed
W bait by the e2 teammate we had
Also yea door broke from our side
gaunt nacelle
I’m just blind ok
Tbf i looked like right at door
And it was a crawler that was like
2 meters away
tall hawk
and see how fast they can get it
uh huh
tacit shoal
🥹
inner turret
<@&408548765599793173> yo itr mr beast
marsh bridge
Thank you, Mr breast
wraith marsh
MR BEEEEEEEAST
marsh bridge
He made sure to add one for every single text channel
pastel sky
where is kai cenat
marsh bridge
How thoughtful
pastel sky
tall hawk
pastel sky
sudden pawn
pastel sky
Was it mr beast coin
Yup
Duudde
Where did Kai cenat scams go those were way better than Mr breast
Kai cenat evolved into Mr beast maybe
rocky sequoia
They should be kept in hsu forever
pastel sky
Don pollo coin
dapper thicket
Mala noticias mi gente
thin nymph
They should be kept in hsu forever
azure pawn
fuck those rooms with moms and charger scouts in R6D2
junior latch
fuck those rooms with moms and charger scouts in R6D2
Dark mom zone 
azure pawn
glad that there are checkpoints and then we went for error alarm rooms
junior latch
very fun area tbf
azure pawn
difficulty not even comparable
junior latch
but def the hardest segment to go into
junior latch
difficulty not even comparable
Its honestly very chill when you know to shoot it
but yea. The combo is mean >:D
azure pawn
was also not really happy about secondary there
but fine
two more missions and rundown is done, two more and thats it
still haven't managed to kill tank without damage, save someone from snatcher, kill pMom without taking dmg from babies...
I guess will have to specifically run for these achievements
junior latch
<@&408548765599793173>
junior latch
I guess will have to specifically run for these achievements
Dont you have like 2 more rundowns to go?
azure pawn
and also need to beat E mission without boosters... I guess will have to go R2E1 through ladderfoam, but lets see what there will be in R7 and R8
azure pawn
Dont you have like 2 more rundowns to go?
yes, 2 Ds in R6 and full R7 and R8
junior latch
and also need to beat E mission without boosters... I guess will have to go R2E1...
- dont ladderfoam it
- just go for a normal clear on one of the fun E tiers (theres also an E tier that rly isnt E)
azure pawn
1. dont ladderfoam it
2. just go for a normal clear on one of the fun E tiers (t...
I mean we already beat it normally, so... but yeah, there are three E's more to see
but from conversations here it definitely won't be R8E2 lol
I guess R7E1 or R8E1
didn't hear anything about them yet
sometimes it feels like it is not about boosters at all. We usually keep cool ones for hard missions, but every time we go with good boosters we just ruin runs and then beating them with much weaker boosters
junior latch
tbf the game simply isnt designed around using boosters
azure pawn
maybe, but I don't want to artificially harden game, so we are using everything what game gives to us
but achievement is achievement
will have to make it
pure belfry
Boosters were originally introduced in R5 anyways
I actually forgot what most of them do, particularly the old no longer obtainable ones
junior latch
maybe, but I don't want to artificially harden game, so we are using everything ...
Eh its not rly artifically hardening the game when the games difficulty never considered them
Booster are sadly a rly bad system and can either be useless or game/mechanic breaking
They are obviously still fine to be used as they are an accessability system at the core
But honestly its typically just recommended to not use them unless you rly feel like you need em
stuck fractal
learning levels with them is a waste
i wouldnt use them until youre confident but i also wouldnt use them
azure pawn
fuck those rooms with moms and charger scouts in R6D2
oh but room with 6 charger scouts was fun, where you had just to get to terminals
but when there are scouts AND sleepers — nah
unborn horizon
Real ones remember about boosters once their slots are full
And then get 20% glowstick power
stuck fractal
glowstick power is the only boosters i keep
tiny mist
trojan ip grabber
stuck fractal
@slow bay revert EVERY change you have made to the burst cannon except the 21 mag. it is notably worse
slow bay
<@530301699131179009> revert EVERY change you have made to the burst cannon exce...
Lmao why
stuck fractal
Lmao why
cuz it feels like shit
its handling is horrible you get LESS kills with higher fire rate
runic anvil
but you remove the versatility by just decreasing the delay between shots
stuck fractal
burst drags are just impossible now
runic anvil
burst cannon is plenty strong vanilla
just give it more ammo
or dont
its fine dude
slow bay
Ahh
Keep in mind i was gonna add a 5 round burst cannon with the normal timings of bc (still plan to add, its just kickin my ass to find where its data is stored)
stuck fractal
5 burst also doesnt feel great if you cant cancel
hasty bobcat
just add
burst cancel
to 5 burst
and make 5 burst 25 damage
so it one shots giants
slow bay
How do i do a burst cancel lol
stuck fractal
like burst cannon you can just leave alone besides increasing reserve count and 21 mag
hasty bobcat
it's a mod
wraith marsh
if youre using EWC it also has the capability
slow bay
if youre using EWC it also has the capability
Noted
wraith marsh
n0
hasty bobcat
FUCK
wraith marsh
im playing fe3
wraith marsh
in a bit
hasty bobcat
w
slow bay
<@530301699131179009> WHY is accurate crosshair a dependancy
Because its goated
Can see whay you are actually gonna hit
stuck fractal
no it also feels like ass luckily you can disable it
hasty bobcat
listen
all client side mods
should not be dependancies
or like qol mods
because some people
may not like them
but you put it in anyway
hasty bobcat
theyre just
pure belfry
5 burst also doesnt feel great if you cant cancel
1 burst, take it or leave it
stuck fractal
i feel like i go for less damage splits when i can hone my cross hair on only one enemy
like if im playing scatter
i try to target swap rather than get value
so it feels really bad for me
wraith marsh
wacky
pure belfry
It’s important to consider weapon changes in the context of any enemy changes as well
idk if ribbit does that tho
I think chill does
hasty bobcat
w
wraith marsh
was gonna try to turn aim punch off from shooters as well but never got around to it
hasty bobcat
when new arc complex update
wraith marsh
neverr
slow bay
No damage but tags enemies on hit, got it
hasty bobcat
those who know...
stuck fractal
electrolyte99 already did that
we love the bio dmr that tags enemies and has a damage multiplier against tagged enemies
slow bay
For my brain, that gets too far into the modded territory
grand abyss
We are new help us 109775242478084305****
slow bay
For my brain, that gets too far into the modded territory
Might consider it for the deeper expeditions though
grand abyss
were 2 need 2 more
slow bay
.t lfg
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rose nova
were 2 need 2 more
hello! u can check the LFG channels to join and share lobbies, the instructions on how to post are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the simplest/easiests ones
river turret
We're dipping out on R2 for awhile. R2d1 was crushing our spirits. We've gotten to the extraction point a couple times but were just choking hard yesterday. As always, it felt very nice to do some A levels after a D. I think all of us are grudging hard towards the end of R2. I think r2d2 is the real nasty one, right? I've heard the first e is also awful
I also tried that scout killing mod recommended earlier and that has been really nice
(so thank you for the rec)
runic anvil
We're dipping out on R2 for awhile. R2d1 was crushing our spirits. We've gotten ...
r2d2 is a big ol skill check yes
and r2e1 is one of the hardest levels in the game
pure belfry
this is a healthy decision
if you headbash enough against it without success, no shame in coming back later
lots of people get stuck precisely there
and I've seen people completely burn out trying to do it in order when it gets disproportionately difficult in late R2
river turret
I told my group that the discord group recommended moving on and not losing too much steam and we had some really awful attempts last night and just decided to call it for now
pure belfry
I think you will have a good time in R3
short rundown like R1 but its got some gems
more approachable honestly
river turret
How bad is the d in r3?
river turret
Really!? that is super exciting, I am looking forward to it
runic anvil
c1 is meh then d1 blows it out of the water
pure belfry
C1 is a tribute level
runic anvil
r3 is more good than bad
runic anvil
which cant be said about some rundowns
runic anvil
so it is special in its own right on that notion
true
runic anvil
its also the only level to have repeatedly scared me in the same spot in consecutive runs of the level
so theres that
pure belfry
R3 also has one of the best guaranteed cosmetics for beating all missions in it
Kovac Typhoon Model I
river turret
Oh, I didn't realize there were any guarantees, I thought it was always randomized!
pure belfry
yep every rundown has a guaranteed cosmetic for beating every mission in it at least once
can see them in the rundown preview menu with apparel acqusition tab
this is the R3 one
works with a lot of outfits and palettes
definitely a good one
river turret
oh man I know at least one guy in my party will love this one
I can't wait until my next session! I'm hoping we can clear the rest of the easy missions
I've been forcing my buddies to stop for logs and they make fun of me but it's exciting to flesh out the world hahaha
pure belfry
the logs reveal quite a lot, and they do track across multiple rundowns with some of the side plots of events prior to the fall of The Complex
several of them are part of the same conversation of an email chain correspondence or project status on the different factions/companies that controlled various areas during standard operations
both the lore of this game and cosmetic apparel options go pretty hard
gameplay's pretty good too of course
river turret
It's really good. I wish more people got to play it or understood it, but I appreciate that it's committed to its design almost to a fault.
It kinda reminds of Rainworld, honestly- really hard and brutal and like that intentionally and either you're along for the ride and catch the vision or you're not gonna have a good time
I've wondered how games like this fit into the whole "accessibility" conversation- as someone who generally thinks games/media should be able to reach as many people as possible, there's something to be said about a very intentional experience like this
pure belfry
This game is very intentionally niche
wind crescent
Theres niche games that say fuck you to the player base theyy my fav
Where my deadly premonition fans at???
mellow hedge
where my my little pony mobile game fans at
glossy knot
sleepers...
lost barn
sleepers...
runic anvil
sleepers...
lost barn
glossy knot
runic anvil
sour kindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326682160697970778/1468245709638598698/m...
@mellow hedge aint no way buddy
rocky sequoia
where my my little pony mobile game fans at
Peak
wicked solstice
anyone know of R2B4 checksum fixes?
sudden pawn
HOLY SHIT SLEEPERS
gaunt nacelle
i miss you
I miss you too buddy ❤️
spice igloo
@misty island wanna have a go?
misty island
<@607937115191377941> wanna have a go?
Got work 💔🥀🥀
spice igloo
aight
misty island
I'm free in the evening if y'all are
spice igloo
i just finished mine so yah
misty island
Noice
spring phoenix
I shall dance
carmine pumice
sudden pawn
gaunt nacelle
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/11454908828654048947/1949887148F424501423B1...
L + ratio
pastel sky
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/11454908828654048947/1949887148F424501423B1...
Dude we were SO chopped yesterday while doing R7C3 some of our attempts would end because tsm and luci were playing too fast so they get 1 tapped by giants it was hilarious
sudden pawn
I gotchu
desert saddle
Can I join?
runic anvil
Can I join?
would prolly not be a duo with three people
desert saddle
I'm new
runic anvil
I'm new
hi! you’re gonna want to start with R1 since it acts as a sort of tutorial rundown for the rest of the game
if you want to play with people from the server you can use the LFG channels to make a post and get people to join you
playing with bots for R1 especially is also not a bad idea
whichever you prefer, don’t get discouraged if things go amiss on your runs, and try to learn from your mistakes as you go :3
runic anvil
R7C3 is a great lobby for new people
please get them out of the r6cx lobby they’re in 😭 😭
rescue this pub
fuck it’s not even a lobby with a vc
sullen finch
gaunt nacelle
please get them out of the r6cx lobby they’re in 😭 😭
No R6CX is great for new people
I decided to become evil
And fucked up
E2 is next up
I will host a e2 lobby and ping them to join
runic anvil
I will host a e2 lobby and ping them to join
they’re already in a r5c2 lobby lmao
runic anvil
i’m gonna explode your ahh vro
gaunt nacelle
Please do 🙏
split marlin
What would be the most incomprehensible lvl for a newbie to get toured
gaunt nacelle
What would be the most incomprehensible lvl for a newbie to get toured
Like e2 or d2 methinks
R7E1 maybe
Specially if Brazil skip
Imagine the scenes, a Brazil skip with a newbie
The tour agency claims another victim
split marlin
Someone get jadie on the phone
gaunt nacelle
@ jadiepub !!!!!!
fathom yacht
e2 for sensory overload
mellow hedge
@rough robin did you guys start playing again? i remember seeing ur guys vids, but its been like 2 years lol
rough robin
I've conned some new friends into it lol
Me and my friend were the last two standing, and we got all the way up to Release but couldn't beat it as a duo - that was back in 2024 lol
I do actually have some unedited levels w/ Cotton that I want to put together at some point, call it "The lost episode"
rough robin
Did it on KDS Deep and it was a pain in the ass
gaunt nacelle
Me and my friend were the last two standing, and we got all the way up to Releas...
Fake or true?
rough robin
true and real
gaunt nacelle
I meant fake duo (bots) or true duo
rough robin
with bots
gaunt nacelle
Goofy ahh naming scheme
rough robin
We didn't give it too many tries, IIRC we got up to an area where there was a respawning tank?
its been a few years
gaunt nacelle
Indeed indeed
Third zone
Me an @steady terrace been grinding away on e2
It’s a fun grind
rough robin
I plan on it once my friends are a bit more up to speed lol
We're halfway through R2 with them
gaunt nacelle
W’s
mellow hedge
if you cant duo, just solo!
gaunt nacelle
if you cant duo, just solo!
Just remember to credit the non cheated clear !!!!!!!
rough robin
Now I want to make a video "R8E2: RELEASE but I play solo until I die" and the video is 5 seconds long
gaunt nacelle
Now I want to make a video "R8E2: RELEASE but I play solo until I die" and the v...
Tbh i made it to secondary as a solo with bots
rough robin
shittily photoshop my face over it
gaunt nacelle
It’s not super bad
mellow hedge
shittily photoshop my face over it
LOL
just put a facecam in the bottom left so you dont see my name there
rough robin
peeerfect
idle ermine
@slow bay is main supposed to open after secondary
split marlin
E2 ahh gimmick
idle ermine
you can do main anytime fuck you on about
slow bay
<@530301699131179009> is main supposed to open after secondary
supposed to unlock yeah
but the update i pushed 2 ish hours ago adds a bulkhead key to sec because someone had desync and couldnt go through main door
mellow hedge
dubskies
stuck fractal
@mellow hedge
idle ermine
0.11
mellow hedge
i didnt even see walter white on the right 😭
slow bay
because i also did check my self that there is a bulkhead key
idle ermine
nvm my shit brokie
slow bay
damn
idle ermine
I installed .11 but it broke because dictionary index out of range
and so I reinstalled new profile and now I have .10
slow bay
tf is the dictionary index XD
stuck fractal
i didnt even see walter white on the right 😭
I DIDNT EITHER
idle ermine
tf is the dictionary index XD
common error from mod caching on rundowns
slow bay
I installed .11 but it broke because dictionary index out of range
probably because of thunderstores fuck ass upload delay
mellow hedge
I DIDNT EITHER
mr gilbert ahh image
slow bay
wtf is this acid trip i have created
stuck fractal
mr gilbert ahh image
slow bay
enemies have not been changed
slow bay
yup
split marlin
based megamom
slow bay
yeah
literally just mega mum from any level except D2
slow bay
surely i make a nightmare mega mum thaat spawns potatoes and nightmare babies
mellow hedge
lowk i nightmare mom variant would be cool
idle ermine
well at that point it's just a boring fight if you don't have the dps
you just peek on screams
stuck fractal
nightmare tank
slow bay
nightmare tank
nank
split marlin
tank but it has bbc ai
slow bay
tank but it has bbc ai
aggressive tank
idle ermine
tank but it has bbc ai
aggro tank already exists
mellow hedge
charger tank in pair ✌️
split marlin
no original thought left
mellow hedge
modders literally just be making anything
idle ermine
they made a fucking sun that kills enemies
y'all don't know shit about fatal experiment 3
the iceberg goes deep
mellow hedge
yeah i play good rundowns
idle ermine
you don't play rundowns.
mellow hedge
real
split marlin
surely they havent make mimick prisoners
mellow hedge
no one invites me anymore 😔
split marlin
its just going to be upside down e2
mellow hedge
could but i lowk think i would be horrible to work with
stuck fractal
idek how 2 code
stuck fractal
I took a robotics class in 12th grade thats all I know about coding
idle ermine
it's those ipv6 logs I tweak
split marlin
I took a robotics class in 12th grade thats all I know about coding
just claude code it
mellow hedge
I took a robotics class in 12th grade thats all I know about coding
its a lot of copypasting
split marlin
chatgpt generate me a good rundown
stuck fractal
its a lot of copypasting
yeah
split marlin
and then itll give me samdown or smth
slow bay
no one invites me anymore 😔
you are cordially invited to play ribbitdown
stuck fractal
you are cordially invited to play ribbitdown
@mellow hedge ima need you to shred this invite up
ok actually fix burst cannon and fix your enemy weighting
and then a1 is atleast cool
slow bay
whats wrong with burst cannon
feels fine
mellow hedge
you are cordially invited to play ribbitdown
more meant to play hard shit like PE and survival
stuck fractal
u can just look at the weapon and buff its stats
u have to understand how it handles in vanilla and see what could be better
slow bay
more meant to play hard shit like PE and survival
RB-B1 is gonna be forced PE
mellow hedge
PE meaning project eternal
stuck fractal
burst cannon with a higher rof and lower charge time is just a worse weapon
slow bay
oh lol
slow bay
burst cannon with a higher rof and lower charge time is just a worse weapon
hm okay
1 rof, 50s charge time
gotcha
stuck fractal
like atleast thats funny
but current bc feels like u didnt understand why the wep was so good in vanilla so u just made its stats better on paper
slow bay
i use the bc qutie a bit in vanilla
this one just feels better to me so idk
stuck fractal
you could leave the charge up time but the rof is what ruins it for me
burst drags are 10x harder to hit
mellow hedge
bc in vanilla is probably one of the best feeling weapons
rough robin
except for the fact it's produced by the french apparently
stuck fractal
all a modded bc needs is 21 mag and better reserve count
rough robin
20 not dividing into 3
stuck fractal
better charge time if you want to get risky
slow bay
20 not dividing into 3
dont worry i gotcha
slow bay
just fix pierce bug
piercebugfix would like to know your location
stuck fractal
bc in vanilla is probably one of the best feeling weapons
after playing 4e1 I think its just the best
slow bay
this is everything i have changed on the bc
more ammo
+1 clip
shorter chargeup
literally the only thing in my change logs
slow bay
this is everything i have changed on the bc
more ammo
+1 clip
shorter chargeup
left of each image is my version, right is vanilla
nothing related to the fire rate or delay between bullets
rough robin
Fuck it. BurstShotCount: 21
junior latch
this is everything i have changed on the bc
more ammo
+1 clip
shorter chargeup
So why did you buff BC 
(The +1 mag I get)
slow bay
So why did you buff BC <:think:1410575128114233404>
(The +1 mag I get)
For future levels
junior latch
BC is already rly good
idle ermine
every gun is just buffed don't worry about it
there is no point of basing it off of one gun
junior latch
slow bay
why is it called armor piercing
Couldnt think of a better name
idle ermine
tweak
junior latch
well
Im personally not a fan of buffing everything into scattergun level-ish
Especially since a lot of the time the „justification“ is that they want to make harder levels (if you need busted guns to make harder levels then simply have less busted guns and balance around that 
)
slow bay
every gun is just buffed don't worry about it
Except sawed off kinda
Reduced stagger, gave more ammo
junior latch
stagger on sawed off rly doesnt matter tbh
idle ermine
sawed off just useless with that slug balance
stuck fractal
WHY is hel revo 6 mag
slow bay
Remember, first rundown and weapon changes
Still learnin
slow bay
WHY is hel revo 6 mag
- To match cylinder
- Faster reload
stuck fractal
is it actually a faster reload its cancel is just as busted
when I played a1 earlier I was running hel revo and bc and I actually shed a tear
junior latch
Remember, first rundown and weapon changes
Still learnin
My main recommendation (when trying to balance weapons, not if you want to make stupid broken meme shit) is to try and balance around the power level of stuff like carbine/dmr and high cal/shotgun/combat shotty
stuck fractal
atleast hel revo damage buffs are cool but its kind of just the sawed off replacement with how broken its cancel still is
slow bay
Maybe i should remove reload cancel 
junior latch
wdym sawed off replacement?
If sawed off is just more ammo and less stagger then its mega busted still
slow bay
Maybe i should remove reload cancel <:thinkms:794606323894583376>
So i can have the reload times i actually want
stuck fractal
I didnt try sawed off icl I thought itd feel like PE sawed off
low as rof and 3 mag and shitty reload
slow bay
3 mag sawed off im not a fan of
junior latch
So i can have the reload times i actually want
Reload cancelling is a decently fun thing to do and an intended thing nowadays
10C have balanced around reload cancels before
3 mag sawed off is still an incredibly strong gun lol
stuck fractal
hel revo kinda cant feel bad but 6 mag was a big weird
junior latch
idk
Id always recommend not to just touch stuff for the sake of it but with reason
Smth like hel revo 6 mag for example has a reason (although theres some arguments against it).
A similar reason for a change would be lowering scatter precision for balance
rough robin
10cc giving the sawed-off a 4th shell is genuinely what inspired me to learn how to mod to undo it. What the fuck
stuck fractal
I never really cared about the ammo counts not matching the sprite
slow bay
I wanna make a mod that adds a 4th barrel
stuck fractal
I just care if it divides ammo weird
junior latch
I wanna make a mod that adds a 4th barrel
that would be funny
stuck fractal
like burst cannon
rough robin
I wanna make a mod that adds a 4th barrel
make it look like a fallout mod, like just duct taped on top
junior latch
I just care if it divides ammo weird
Player feel vs internal logic ye
slow bay
make it look like a fallout mod, like just duct taped on top
4th shot animation is just throwing the shell at the enemy
rough robin
exactly
stuck fractal
im looking at the top right to see when I can cancel anyways 😴
rough robin
Maybe i should remove reload cancel <:thinkms:794606323894583376>
now that's an idea...
I wish GTFO had more 'consistency' with reloads. Like how some guns your character racks and others you don't (not that it ever matters because of reload cancel)
stuck fractal
I wish GTFO sniper rifle had a cancel
junior latch
Removing reload cancels is a change you def shouldnt do
It gets very negative reactions typically
rough robin
its daring...its bold...but the game is kinda balanced around it so it would be too big of a shakeup IMO
junior latch
Its basically just another lever for balance that also gives skill expression
junior latch
I also wish hel shotgun had a better reload
Nah the gun rly needs a long one
slow bay
Removing reload cancels is a change you def shouldnt do
It gets very negative r...
Dont remove reload cancel = faster reloads than i want
Remove reload cancel = get the reloads i want
stuck fractal
it DOES so I think its cancel should be pretty deepnin
but its hard to use otherwise if youre pubbing and what not
junior latch
Dont remove reload cancel = faster reloads than i want
Remove reload cancel = ge...
Balance around reload cancel
You have more levers than them
like what reloads would you even wanna touch up
stuck fractal
but I guess 4 hel shotguns with a cancel or better reload and youre never getting licked a day in your life
slow bay
like what reloads would you even wanna touch up
Revolver and hel revolver are the main ones
stuck fractal
dont touch hel revo reload
stuck fractal
youre already making it 6mag
junior latch
No need to touch the reload there
stuck fractal
fix sniper reload : )
rough robin
I made it 6 rounds too...it bothered me like the sawed off
junior latch
6 mag hel revo is a good step down
But its mainly a „I cringe at the 8 bullets in 6 chambers“ vs „8 mag is there for years, feels off now“
rough robin
I dunno, it just felt right. I did give it a small buff as compensation
junior latch
That being?
rough robin
stuck fractal
I was shooting the bad guys and then it stopped shooting 2 dead guys before normal
I cried :(
junior latch
Eh I guess thats a decent counter buff
stuck fractal
its a bit too powerful xd
junior latch
Yes
stuck fractal
it was killing CHARGERS well like wtf
junior latch
hence no boosters
stuck fractal
it was even fine into mom
junior latch
Fun fact question of the day
Order these 4 weapons in the speed they can kill a mother
rough robin
Eh I guess thats a decent counter buff
it may not be for everyone but I didn't want to buff it elsewhere as I feel it's pretty good, this felt like a 'skill-based' buff
junior latch
AR, Hel Revo, Sniper and combat shotgun
idle ermine
"the answer may surprise you" looking ass
rough robin
combat shotgun in #1...?
stuck fractal
sniper
combat shotgun
ar
revo
? idk ive never shot any of these vanilla into a mother
sniper seems good itd be what 5 or 6 shots
rough robin
Def not sniper just becuase of the speed, especially vanilla sniper with it's shitass 2 round magazine
junior latch
- combat shotty
- hel revo
- AR
- sniper
rough robin
I WAS RIGHT
junior latch
combat shotty shreds mom decently well
stuck fractal
hel revo above AR is surprising tho
rough robin
can hit two tumors IIRC?
stuck fractal
no unless mom's are different from tanks in tumor piercing
junior latch
can hit two tumors IIRC?
No
Same enemy
junior latch
Hel revo just spams rly quickly and has a rly fast reload with cancel
stuck fractal
if sniper had a cancel... imagine where itd be on this pointless list...
wait is sniper into mom 5 shots
junior latch
8
stuck fractal
tf
junior latch
its capped on tumor hp
stuck fractal
its less than that for a tank
rough robin
will never understand why they butchered it to a 2rnd mag either...
junior latch
Pick rate
stuck fractal
ok sniper is ASS into mom's then
junior latch
its less than that for a tank
Yea cuz same hp but diff multis and tumor hp
rough robin
in the same patch they buffed the scattergun
junior latch
ok sniper is ASS into mom's then
Genuinely worst option in the game btw
junior latch
in the same patch they *buffed* the scattergun
Also pick rate
stuck fractal
I thought itd jist go by enemy hp fuck that
mom's die faster since scatter kills her betyer!
junior latch
Btw
rough robin
Also pick rate
its weird because they do play the game, done all those streams
And still
stuck fractal
thats how it should be for sniper 💔
junior latch
But it get reverted because „We dont want weapons to 3 hit kill bosses“
scattergun in the corner with a 2 shot
rough robin
Scattergun can 2shot it...
stuck fractal
my goat needs more love
rough robin
I remember sending a clip of that to Calle and asking if they were considering the balancing of the scattergun
"Yes we are looking into balancing :)"
buffs scattergun
stuck fractal
sniper is so fun
rapid ridge
Can Scatter 2 or 3 shot a Tank out of curiosity?
stuck fractal
I think eith perfect scatter its 3 or 4
rapid ridge
Hard to get full value since you have to get real close
stuck fractal
idk i barely run scatter
rapid ridge
Wow that gun is insane
stuck fractal
its a delete key
rapid ridge
Yeah it's the panic button gun
fierce palm
Turkey Hunt reference?!
junior latch
Yeah it's the panic button gun
Its also incredibly efficient into smalls :)
if you kill 2 per shot (you can kill more than that easily) you are more efficient than the majority of guns already
rapid ridge
Shooting into a clump and watching half of them stagger and the other half straight-up die is always beautiful
junior latch
CRUNCH
rapid ridge
Hmm I am so full from eating Sleepers yum
gaunt nacelle
Ngl no tumor cap sniper was pretty ok
Its genuinely better balance
@slow bay add this to ur rundown
slow bay
no tumour cap as in not enough damage to reach it in 1 hit, oras in the tumour damage cap?
gaunt nacelle
no tumour cap as in not enough damage to reach it in 1 hit, oras in the tumour d...
Remove tumor cap
wind crescent
@gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
Blud thinks im not currently getting an education
gaunt nacelle
Im getting gay A's
wind crescent
nah i don't believe you
gaunt nacelle
Never said i wouldnt complain along the way
wind crescent
im complaining about u
gaunt nacelle
slow bay
Balance around reload cancel
guess i should specify
i would want to remove reload cancelling, and then reduce the reload time for those weapons
so a sort of in between
mellow hedge
i would heavily recommend against it
rapid ridge
My brain needs the Dopamine from playing the timing mini-game reload cancelling provides
Which is why I don't use the Rifle
mellow hedge
Oh yeah also eva i think making guns more op is a good thing in very hard rundowns
But im not sending why because i cant be bothered writing something cohesive
burst cannon already has reload cancel
mellow hedge
kill this guy
pseudo sedge
(I was thinking this was about burst cancelling somehow)
junior latch
Oh yeah also eva i think making guns more op is a good thing in very hard rundow...
You can (legacy did in the past) but to me it often feels like you could rather have the same difficulty with more balanced weapons
The big thing I usually am against is people basically rando buffing
Say you buff burst cannon and then buff Precision rifle
But you only give PR a minor boost (doesnt even eclipse current shotgun tier) and Burst cannon becomes scattergun lvl broken.
People already dont know how to balance around vanilla, so usually they have no clue about how to balance around stuff trying to be harder INTO power crept loadouts
pseudo sedge
(don't remove reload cancel tho, the mechanic allows u to essentially engage with the game even more by giving u something to do)
junior latch
^
mellow hedge
lowk i prolly wouldnt play the rundown just off of that
pseudo sedge
the only reason i'd see to remove the whole mechanic would be if you give the players SO MUCH to do to the point where it is overwhelming
but that would need reworking the game...
junior latch
And at that point you arent making a gtfo rundown
mellow hedge
just make a surf map atp
rapid ridge
GTFO rocket jumping map when
junior latch
GTFO with funny physics would be very cool
let us gain speed by getting giant meleed and being mid air
mellow hedge
- bhopping
rapid ridge
BHOP down a slope and fly across the room before instantly dying to fall damage
pseudo sedge
bhop but the horizontal distance covered is treated as distance fallen and when u stop u tank the entire damage
rapid ridge
Fly into a wall and instantly die
mellow hedge
but you also get Iframes from getting hit by enemies so you get hit intentionally to negate the damage
split marlin
give iframe to tank and mom ty
gaunt nacelle
My brain needs the Dopamine from playing the timing mini-game reload cancelling ...
This is why I play hel gun
steady terrace
This is why I play hel gun
surely available
gaunt nacelle
surely available
In fact nope
rapid ridge
I wanna use Hel Gun more but I force myself to go for headshots and feel bad when I inevitably miss :P
Same with Revolver
rapid ridge
I don't doubt it
split marlin
just pen into double headshots
mellow hedge
gaunt nacelle
I use hel gun like a dtr hel rifle with the occasional hs aim
wicked pond
Think something might be wrong with my game
Yo rare pull
wind crescent
freedom of peach is dead
wise crypt
Why yo peach enslaved
idle ermine
@slow bay buh
mellow hedge
segregating the resources
near stag
<@530301699131179009> buh
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony
tall hawk
then the dis packs attacked
slow bay
Nah my A2 is 6 codes
rocky sequoia
+6 melee resistance
+4 projectile resistance
pastel sky
+6 melee resistance
+4 projectile resistance
+10% infection resist
runic anvil
+6 melee resistance
+4 projectile resistance
boosters being a very balanced mechanic as per usual
pastel sky
boosters being a very balanced mechanic as per usual
I mean this game isn't fair too so
Gotta fight fire with fire
runic anvil
I mean this game isn't fair too so
id say the game is pretty fair
pastel sky
There are some broken asf boosters but like except 100% infect resist and having like 60% ammo effic I find them fine
sudden pawn
the part where I miss my bullets is the hard part
runic anvil
but they never do anything that i would consider to be "unfair"
pastel sky
Dude this game is also janky for some reason
I once threw a c foam nades at a charger scout
And it went directly through him like
Why
That costed us the run aswell
runic anvil
I once threw a c foam nades at a charger scout
aim for the feet
wind crescent
im starting to think casey and anthony just really fucking hate act 3 bro who designed the doorman and queen fights
runic anvil
the cfoam nade hitbox is inactive for a second before it becomes viable
wind crescent
that shit is ASSS
pastel sky
the cfoam nade hitbox is inactive for a second before it becomes viable
Yeah ofc bruh
It's cuz I threw it close cuz he was coming from the stairs
sudden pawn
I mean its fair cause the games gotta register its even there in the first place when you throw it
given how silent shooting works
runic anvil
It's cuz I threw it close cuz he was coming from the stairs
well now you know
gtfo's fair if you know the mechanics
which you learn
by playing
hence it is fair
pastel sky
Yeah it just feels like sometimes the game just does that cuz it hates you
Like that fucking c foam nade made everyone want to quit from there
rocky sequoia
boosters being a very balanced mechanic as per usual
Gimme that +1 % bioscan speed please 😩
runic anvil
Like that fucking c foam nade made everyone want to quit from there
its consistent if you aim for the cscouts feet
because the cnade's explosion will insta foam the scout
sudden pawn
thats jus a trial an error thing not really the game being unfair
pastel sky
thats jus a trial an error thing not really the game being unfair
You wouldn't really learn that unless you asked like
runic anvil
and the blobs dont really matter unless you fuck up the kill and need it to be refoamed
sudden pawn
thats like saying since cscouts arent one hit melee then its unfair
pastel sky
The impact grenade takes a second to be able to hit on impact
runic anvil
You wouldn't really learn that unless you asked like
if it flew through the scout id try something different
sudden pawn
You wouldn't really learn that unless you asked like
you would after trying it a couple times
sudden pawn
hence how people figured out how to kill scouts with knife
pastel sky
if it flew through the scout id try something different
He popped after that xd
sudden pawn
they wouldn't know that till they tried to hit from back of head
pastel sky
Cuz he started to do the tentacle thingy
runic anvil
how much sound do c-trips produce
0
sudden pawn
room wake?
no sound
sudden pawn
mines do
pure belfry
how much sound do c-trips produce
not as much as @sudden pawn when walking
sudden pawn
not as much as <@342178554961723392> when walking
or when my belly bounces
pastel sky
Luci's fatass be waking every enemy bro
sharp condor
how the fuck did that cscout wake up them
pastel sky
It feels like he is running 90% of the times
sudden pawn
how the fuck did that cscout wake up them
??
pastel sky
how the fuck did that cscout wake up them
My c foam nade went through the guy
That's why
Cuz dogass logic of it needing to be in the air for a second to be impact
sudden pawn
Cuz dogass logic of it needing to be in the air for a second to be impact
the game needs to realize it exists first bruh
thats a coding thing
runic anvil
thats a coding thing
something 10c is notoriously bad at admittedly
sharp condor
??
we were killing a c-tripped cscout with NOTHING in sight, no sprinting no shooting & nun and a giant woke up
sudden pawn
the game doesn't even realize i have my gun out sometimes allowing me to silent shoot
pastel sky
Idk I just still find it weird that the impact nade cannot be used up close too much and you gotta take like 4 meters away
sudden pawn
we were killing a c-tripped cscout with NOTHING in sight, no sprinting no shooti...
I mean with no replay or clip we cant really tell you what happened
pastel sky
we were killing a c-tripped cscout with NOTHING in sight, no sprinting no shooti...
What
sharp condor
I mean with no replay or clip we cant really tell you what happened
how to run replay mod
sharp condor
yes
sharp condor
maybe
pastel sky
Or running
sharp condor
@gaunt nacelle how replay mod
gaunt nacelle
<@682619614517395761> how replay mod
Did yoy have it when you played the match?
gaunt nacelle
Just download replay from r2modman
gaunt nacelle
Ez
sharp condor
ok
gaunt nacelle
And then whenever yoy wanna grab a replay file to view download the viewer from git hub
If you ask where link
I will not respond
runic anvil
remember that one time we c-tripped a scout on a catwalk
was gonna test but check out my sick ass telekinetic powers vro
gaunt nacelle
does that come with being gay or nah?
Na cuz i dont got
sharp condor
was gonna test but check out my sick ass telekinetic powers vro
every trans person has levitation powers
gaunt nacelle
Only powers I got is getting christians to scream at me
And to judge people drinking alcohol on the train
gaunt nacelle
I got the power to sleep at aunt hours
pastel sky
was gonna test but check out my sick ass telekinetic powers vro
its like me with that goofy ass glowstick wait where is that screenshot
runic anvil
every trans person has levitation powers
yeppers
wind crescent
sudden pawn
And to judge people drinking alcohol on the train
your gonna hate me then
gaunt nacelle
your gonna hate me then
Already do
pastel sky
@runic anvil
gaunt nacelle
Love hate relationship
wind crescent
@gaunt nacelle get on sts with me and fo
pastel sky
gaunt nacelle
<@682619614517395761> get on sts with me and fo
runic anvil
menacing ahh glowstick grasp
sudden pawn
Already do
ik
gaunt nacelle
Stev trans confirmed
sharp condor
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-follow-me-gif-4273618567139914195
moth you have sts2
play with us
right now
aaaa
sudden pawn
wait stev is trans then holy
gaunt nacelle
moth you have sts2
I don't
sharp condor
BLOW UP
pastel sky
Stev trans confirmed
what
sudden pawn
congrats vro
pastel sky
wait stev is trans then holy
no
wind crescent
@gaunt nacelle get on sts with me and fo
pastel sky
its just like pushed to the left
sharp condor
Did earlier
gaunt nacelle
<@682619614517395761> get on sts with me and fo
sharp condor
@gaunt nacelle get on sts with me and swag
pastel sky
pastel sky
<@682619614517395761> get on sts with me and swag
no no no no
wind crescent
true good thinking
pastel sky
Me and tsm can play rn
wind crescent
get on sts with me and fo
pastel sky
dont kill the vibe
gaunt nacelle
<@682619614517395761> get on sts with me and swag
sharp condor
dont kill the vibe
get on sts with me and swag
sharp condor
https://tenor.com/view/moin-moin-khan-sleep-cat-goodnight-gif-146164145856126841...
@gaunt nacelle get on sts with me and swag
pastel sky
Ion got the game
gaunt nacelle
<@682619614517395761> get on sts with me and swag
pastel sky
I aint buying it now
sudden pawn
play gtfo bruh
pastel sky
yes bruh
sharp condor
I aint buying it now
why?
pastel sky
we still need to beat it
pastel sky
unless one of my
wind crescent
moth doesn't have excuse
pastel sky
steam family members hold up
pastel sky
nope only the 1st one
runic anvil
remember that one time we c-tripped a scout on a catwalk
oh btw i did just check this for the hell of it, ctrip is quite silent
wind crescent
i get crueler
sharp condor
oh btw i did just check this for the hell of it, ctrip is quite silent
fucckkk
pastel sky
also like STS1 by itself is so fucking good
runic anvil
also you cant wake enemies by meleeing cfoamed ones
sharp condor
ok
pastel sky
I gotta show my old screenies hold up
gaunt nacelle
moth evades me
You just ask whenever I'm sleeping or in school
wind crescent
pastel sky
oh NOW
gaunt nacelle
atleast get in vc dummy
No im not sleep calling
sharp condor
you make me not buy the game at all
i personally hate him
wind crescent
pastel sky
HOW
sharp condor
tho he is good in sts2
gaunt nacelle
Im not that one Korean chick who thinks she can say the nword
pastel sky
He is the most fun character in STS1
sharp condor
i don't like him that's it
wind crescent
hes my fav in sts1 but in 2 hes got ALOT of issues
sudden pawn
yall should hop on metro real talk 
sharp condor
He is the most fun character in STS1
sts1 and 2 are different lil bro
wind crescent
No im not sleep calling
did i ask you to sleep mf
gaunt nacelle
Real talk can my books arrive pls
pastel sky
hes my fav in sts1 but in 2 hes got ALOT of issues
Ive seen alot of infinites
gaunt nacelle
did i ask you to sleep mf
My body
sharp condor
stev have you watched my clip on silent
pastel sky
sts1 and 2 are different lil bro
yes and you said the STS1 one is SHIT and STS2 is better ?
wind crescent
infinites are not indicative of the value of a character.
pastel sky
infinites are not indicative of the value of a character.
no I mean the game isnt finished yet so thats why there is alot of stupid stuff in the game
its normal
wind crescent
bad opinion
pastel sky
like fucking regent giga blast
wind crescent
its fun, you get to play a fun game and later down the track the game will change and you can play it again with dif stuff
pastel sky
its fun, you get to play a fun game and later down the track the game will chang...
didnt say the game is not FUN
wind crescent
every day cards are changing which is super fucking fun to see
pastel sky
its just a lil broken
but like its not finished what do you expect
it seems really good still though
gaunt nacelle
pastel sky
watched Cdawg and Albino play it