#gtfo-chat

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stuck fractal
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should be strictly for speeds

mellow hedge
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And guess what, it was civil

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Woahhh

sullen finch
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toxic vet vs extremely toxic vet

sudden pawn
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hacker vs pro

stuck fractal
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nice toxic vet verse the ghost rider

runic anvil
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frosty toxic arc when

rare stone
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casually toxic vs competitively toxic

vestal portal
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Damn I should've brought my popcorn

sudden pawn
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ranked toxic currently grandmaster

rare stone
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not saying you're toxic Frosty <3

mellow hedge
stuck fractal
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too chill man lock out

sudden pawn
mellow hedge
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BUT I usually like to stick to my morals

hasty bobcat
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sooo what

marsh bridge
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You're not helping your or anyone else's case

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Please

hasty bobcat
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i did not start a conversation with u

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jn

sudden pawn
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crazy work man

runic anvil
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lmao

mellow hedge
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Let’s just ignore literally everything else, you didn’t start a direct conversation with me!!!

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👏

runic anvil
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fuck

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wrong gif

vestal portal
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I'm glad I took a certain someones advice when it came to the people in here- nice one Dodo

mellow hedge
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LMAO

stuck fractal
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i dont have a good gif to reply with

mellow hedge
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If you want to have an actual conversation, how about we mature up a bit

stuck fractal
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pretned sent i sent what dodo snet

mellow hedge
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Anyway I got a pint to drink and it’s getting cold

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Who’s joining

sudden pawn
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me

stuck fractal
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yeah sure

sudden pawn
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i have a jagerbomb rn

mellow hedge
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I have a pint of somersby

stuck fractal
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i hhave some evil juice

mellow hedge
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My love

sudden pawn
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w comms vro

rare stone
tall hawk
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helldivers 2? gyatt

sudden pawn
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drink to our sub 25 cs vro ❤️

vestal portal
mellow hedge
tall hawk
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smh not even sub 20 for the comp

marsh bridge
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Tuho, save me from the madness

sudden pawn
tall hawk
sudden pawn
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a melody of sorts

stuck fractal
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promise?

runic anvil
stuck fractal
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give us 3 more weekends of syntav being able to play

mellow hedge
sudden pawn
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ye we had a terrible run but were up a min 30

mellow hedge
stuck fractal
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we had 6 downs in hub zone including one in the surge

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and were up so hard

sudden pawn
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almost 2min up

mellow hedge
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I think it might be easier to get sub 18 with hot strat

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Because you have 4 in charger and hub

stuck fractal
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but split is funnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

mellow hedge
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So it’s more consistent

stuck fractal
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i mean like maybe

sudden pawn
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i mean we could try it now that we are way better at it

mellow hedge
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It is very fun

stuck fractal
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but grabbing cell with 4 is so snooze

mellow hedge
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Yeah lmao

sudden pawn
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well we could all push cell then go our separate ways so cell is smoother

mellow hedge
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Someone record so I can vod review

sudden pawn
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or is that no bueno

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syntav did

stuck fractal
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syntav recorded and ill be streaming tomorrow

mellow hedge
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Also send logs so I can see where time is lost

sudden pawn
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we lowkey need tips for our respective zones to save time since they are both kind chopped in places

tall hawk
marsh bridge
tall hawk
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omg

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Tim please

stuck fractal
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cell zone is free if we have ammo going into it

fathom yacht
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we have the replay file also

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if you really want to look at that

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😭

stuck fractal
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we just need to not get the super far back cell

sudden pawn
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like we have sub 25 everytime but we lose alot of time in hub an little mistakes in our zones

stuck fractal
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hub is just our worst lmao

sudden pawn
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our hub is chopped chuddy

mellow hedge
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Send it

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I’m like 100% sure you’re losing time up to the split

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Like a fair bit

vestal portal
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Im eepi, goodnight chatt

sudden pawn
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our hub is loosing us alot of time

runic anvil
sudden pawn
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but split is too for sure

tall hawk
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joever

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gn

sudden pawn
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its a mix of both

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i think now we have a way better understanding of the level an play it better we might be able to jus blow through together faster

fathom yacht
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wait I gotta find it

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like 30 attempts today to sort through

sudden pawn
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lowkey luq an jamie we could practice no split tmrw an see how the times differ

fathom yacht
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tbh the 21:30 one that died is probably better to show

stuck fractal
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that was way better into hub yeah

sudden pawn
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our hub wasnt too bad

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the sustain was horrific

stuck fractal
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our hub was terrible bro

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we also lose time waiting for the snatcher ik that

sudden pawn
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wait was that our shit hub

stuck fractal
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not too hard to kill him on scan

stuck fractal
sudden pawn
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OOOOO YE

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okie mb

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i remember now

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like we had so much time loss but were so up xd

stuck fractal
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yeah

fathom yacht
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ok I found it

stuck fractal
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would have been sub 20 easily

sudden pawn
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i think we jus practice all 4 together no split

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we can jus try for the best cell spot too

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something that isnt turbo bad or too far

stuck fractal
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i dont like 10 or 7

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well 7 is the worst i think

sudden pawn
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ye you guys know better than syntav or i so yall decide

stuck fractal
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10 is alright you just have to go right

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5 and 6 are the best

sudden pawn
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we can jus help clear for you

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you guys have a route down

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dont want to get in the way of it

fathom yacht
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this run was sub 22 pace but died on the surge

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wow we really did 4 hours of attempts after this

stuck fractal
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yes lol

sudden pawn
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also lowkey luq you should go down to do scans since i go up during first surge

stuck fractal
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laughing for 4 hours straight

fathom yacht
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yea true

mellow hedge
sudden pawn
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cause 2 of us were up at boxes for no reason

fathom yacht
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iirc everything up to hub was pretty clean

fathom yacht
sudden pawn
fathom yacht
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just gotta check those spots and we're good

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ye

sudden pawn
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if you want tmrw ill do scans

sudden pawn
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literally.

sullen finch
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how i felt seeing that message

sudden pawn
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smile turned upside down

sudden pawn
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but like im down for 4 go cell syntav an i can jus help clear yall already have a route an shit for the cells

fathom yacht
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damn the tank kill that attempt was so clean

sudden pawn
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ye we had a really smooth tank zone

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our hub was jus THE WORST thing on the planet

stuck fractal
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was this the run where we had back cell?

sudden pawn
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ye i think

stuck fractal
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i know we arrived late

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when yall were in B

sudden pawn
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our hub an cell spawn were the worst thing on planet earth

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frosty you should like coach us for our cs sub 20

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will do a backflip off my balcony if we get it

sullen finch
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zed the yapper

sudden pawn
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REM I HAVE NO CLUE

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wrap it up vro

fringe garden
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so
i can only speak for myself so i will only speak for myself
i had a long conversation with eva (privately) a couple of months ago about what the limits of what will be allowed to be logged are. we ended up disagreeing about a bunch of stuff. however one argument that stuck with me that i increasingly became convinced of is that logging cells and logging keys are effectively equivalent. just because logging keys was earlier and easier, it is effectively the same thing. as someone who was (and still is) running the logs category, i could justify logging cells if i was logging keys regardless.
in the specific run (r5e1) i was only resetting for H and D keys (or better). i don't believe knowing the cell spawn substantially changed how that run would be played, as my pathing was identical to how it would have been in logless, and yoni staying out to loot wouldn't have been any different either. but i did know where it was and did play for it.

regarding the superlogger.
it is a good and required tool for running the logs category at a high level. no one is really questioning the quality of the tool. it is just the case that to me (and i suspect most of the people "in my camp" whatever that means), the superlogger is the personification of everything we dislike about the logs category to begin with, imbued with the drama from back when it was a new invention. running logs with manual reading was objectively a worse experience in several ways, and personally im grateful for the tools existence as i don't think most of the runs that i have been pushing in the logs category i would have kept on running without the tool. i just cannot justify resource logging in any way, and i don't think it's correct for the game or the experience of running the game.
if the invention of the superlogger came with objective item and heavy carry logging, and not resource logging, i don't think the drama would have unfolded even remotely closely to how it did. and that's a shame

rare stone
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also btw can't you just run logless if you got an issue with that?

fringe garden
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well
some runs
such as
r4e1
with no key logging
SUCK

stuck fractal
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logged category more competitive i think and its also way more consistent

fringe garden
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like personally i think key logging and cell logging is fine and improves almost every run

rare stone
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I honestly don't get what the big deal is

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it's allowed

fringe garden
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but resource logging destroys a big part of what the game is to me

rare stone
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I wouldn't say that, it just takes out most of the frustration of resetting for a good spawn

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which you're probably gonna be doing regardless, no?

marsh bridge
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mi bomboclatt

pseudo sedge
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Only real difference is if u spend 2 seconds on a reset or 5minutes

rare stone
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I'm speaking as a non speedrunner here so I'm not super informed but I see no issue with it

stuck fractal
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the issues had just depend on how you view gtfo

rare stone
stuck fractal
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i like logging but dont like resource logging cuz i think thats just too much

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and looting is a thing you can get good at

rare stone
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resource logging is a thing now?

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lol

stuck fractal
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yea

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thats kinda the whole argument zed just had

fringe garden
stuck fractal
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i wont lie and say resource logging didnt make me and luqs 3d1 duo speed stuff wayyyyyyyyyy more fun

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but we also didnt reset to get good res spawns so idk

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its just nice to ping a box and know whats in there

fringe garden
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it doesn't matter
getting good res spawn when you're resource logging is irrelevant because you're still saving like SO SO SO much time by just knowing the box

stuck fractal
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yea

honest hedge
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@vestal portal wake up

stuck fractal
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having that knowledge is so insane

rare stone
fringe garden
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not the case

hasty bobcat
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if you resource log

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you check one box

stuck fractal
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youll learn everything in a given zone but not in any given box

hasty bobcat
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if you're not resource logging

rare stone
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ig

hasty bobcat
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you check every box on path

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(and might not even get it regardless)

stuck fractal
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a lot of time save in just how much you hold e and hack locks

fringe garden
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for some runs (read: the runs i REALLY care about the most) this maxes and INSANE difference

fathom yacht
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personally I think hack locks are a really boring and repetitive part of the game so I don't mind resource logging

rare stone
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Lock Melter my beloved

hasty bobcat
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it's just that your team has to play for boxes

fringe garden
fathom yacht
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if there was like some variation to the hack minigame it would be so much better

rare stone
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Lock Melters are an S tier item and you can't convince me otherwise

stuck fractal
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sadly we never had lock melters cuz why woudl we waste time opening boxes that arent res xd

fringe garden
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well i think the alpha hacklock minigame was better but that's a different discussion

sudden pawn
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bro i have melters on me 24/7

stuck fractal
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what was alpha hacklock is there a vid

rare stone
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that just makes it pointless tho

fringe garden
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no because the puzzle was cooler

sudden pawn
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actually a lock melter merchant

stuck fractal
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should have made it like warframe hacks

rare stone
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wasn't it the same but it just looked different?

rare stone
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get off my podium

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I use ALL the lock melters

fathom yacht
sudden pawn
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its for our cell skips vro dw

pseudo sedge
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In our runs for most levels (any% full team) we don't loose time for resources, we just gamble the 3 boxes we can get without timeloss are resources. So when u look at it this way, resources are very similar to keys, required for progression just in a very different way

hasty bobcat
rare stone
fathom yacht
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but tbf r3d1 is extremely resource heavy

hasty bobcat
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or u skip for padlocks

sudden pawn
pseudo sedge
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The thing that imo makes resource logging be very nice is the new thing for generating maps

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No more foresight .ron files where you need to colour every single resource pack

sudden pawn
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lock melters in r5e1 give me the biggest grin on my face ever man

fringe garden
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resource logging is good because you know where your res are. how that information is presented is irrelevant to the strength of it

rare stone
sudden pawn
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HOLY SHIT

pseudo sedge
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In run it might not make a difference but not having to spend 30 minutes to set up a level is crazy

rare stone
fringe garden
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i think it makes a bigger difference when you run a more diverse set of levels
for the levels i run i run them enough that memorising the ids of every box so a list of ids is sufficient to know all my res is very reasonable

stuck fractal
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just get brain damage so you are no longer as good then you dont need to resource log for better pbs

slow bay
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the fighting between logs is kinda dumb ngl

if you disagree with the premises of logging, dont run it
that simple

fringe garden
pseudo sedge
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Ok

hoary crescent
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guys aren't even fighting lmao

fringe garden
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so i don't have a category that caters to me because either i forgo the parts of logging i dislike
or i accept the parts of not logging i don't like

hoary crescent
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just sharing their different perspectives

pseudo sedge
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I literally dm-ed this to frosty thinking that I kinda don't wanna day it:

wraith marsh
pseudo sedge
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Just read Zed's comment and I swear I just wanna say: u are literally one of the people who started the whole drama. If u just hated logs that much why are u running it now anyway? You hate logs but run it more than logless. You hate drama but start it. You like the logger and yet this is the first time I hear you not shit talk it in public.

wraith marsh
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but yeah this is the case now

wraith marsh
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(my team also ran logless plenty before and I dont use super logger now)

slow bay
fringe garden
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knowing how the tools and game works i am aware the category i would like to run is not. achievable or possible to set up. but i think my opinion is pretty clear

pseudo sedge
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Zed and sky, u 2 are hypocrites bigger than trump, thankfully you don't own a country.

hoary crescent
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bruh

hasty bobcat
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👑

fringe garden
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saying i started the drama is kinda crazy but that's a matter of perspective

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i just crashed out the hardest during its inception

fringe garden
rare stone
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???

fringe garden
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and given we log specific items and not others
maybe should have realised that says something about our opinion of that

rare stone
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I'm confused

sudden pawn
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y are you so gnarp gnarp

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WAIT

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YOU ARE SO GREEN

sudden pawn
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WE ARE SO GREEN

rare stone
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we are legion

hasty bobcat
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also I don't get the argument bout 5e1

vagrant nexus
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r8b1 is so cringe

hasty bobcat
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it was never meant to be wr really

vagrant nexus
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holy

sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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im playing with 3 bots because i got no1 to play with but its so hard to conserve ammo

vagrant nexus
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yh thats what i did

vagrant nexus
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i arrived at door 140 after the 3 data keys

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and we all had 0 ammo

stuck fractal
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oh my god we didnt get our sub 20 because we aren't green

vagrant nexus
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unlucky.

sullen finch
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tbh might want to remove a bot

slow bay
fringe garden
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also i reject the accusation that specifically I has shittalked the superlogger in public. i have mentioned the superlogger 4 times in this server (ie 4 times outside of private channels) and none have been putting it down in any way
i can concede that it's been used more as an insult to people using it, but i have never called it a bad tool in any way

stuck fractal
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tomorrow we will be green

vagrant nexus
sudden pawn
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YOUR SO RIGHT

runic anvil
vagrant nexus
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no

slow bay
vagrant nexus
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might be the issue....

runic anvil
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i would

fringe garden
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find 1 message in this server

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or any other public server

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where i shittalk it

sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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i was running 3 burst sentries

slow bay
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too lazy

vagrant nexus
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and 1 bio track on a bot

slow bay
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vibing to music and eating lunch

sudden pawn
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vro you gained my respect w fuckin ribbit man

fringe garden
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well this is the results list so you're not going to be finding anything

sudden pawn
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can we get 5 subs chat

stuck fractal
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me and dodo are one and two looool see what id id yhere

stuck fractal
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every day I wake up to some bullshit on my phone

sudden pawn
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jamie vro

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haaaaiiiiii

fringe garden
slow bay
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cant find any currently

ive been around when arguments have broken out about it, and it is always you as the source

runic anvil
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i have NO clue

vagrant nexus
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why are u making such a big deal about it zed

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lol

fringe garden
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because people are lying about me and what i have said

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and that's a big deal to me

sudden pawn
slow bay
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not lies if it has happened and you have a repeated history of it

sudden pawn
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ill get you any clear you want because of that

vagrant nexus
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just ignore and move on lowkey

vagrant nexus
fringe garden
slow bay
fringe garden
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please FUCK OFF

sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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i dont think we can play together

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im in shanghai

sudden pawn
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shit vro

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our ping will be horrible

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but i gotchu

vagrant nexus
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nah there's no way lmao

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you'll have 9 secs delay

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unless u use exitlag or smth

sudden pawn
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i gotchu vro

slow bay
sudden pawn
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like it might not be too terrible

slow bay
sudden pawn
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what lvl you need vro

slow bay
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oh hey skuller

sudden pawn
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w skuller gif

vagrant nexus
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i play rly good solo but i end up trolling better players because i cant match their timings

fringe garden
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idk i wanted to talk to frosty about how i personally use the superlogger in the runs where im in charge of the logging
and clarify specifics about the r5e1 run
i guess having a civil conversation isn't possible just like frosty said

vagrant nexus
sudden pawn
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pro player

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all g

slow bay
vagrant nexus
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so it might not be that bad

slow bay
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true true

fringe garden
slow bay
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same to you bud

sudden pawn
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vozy i need you to help practice hub zone for cs when syntav has mom aggro during the weekdays pls

fringe garden
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you're the one making the accusation

slow bay
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based on past experiences

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

mystic moss
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can't believe i'm the syntav sub

sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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i dont think u get anything out of it

rare stone
vagrant nexus
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even if u clear ur name

sudden pawn
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im starting to like you alot more

slow bay
vagrant nexus
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if u justify further ppl will call you out on it more

sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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let it go and keep on grinding

slow bay
sudden pawn
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but lowkey we get sub 20 tmrw cause we goated so dw

vagrant nexus
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does any1 play league here

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lowkey

sudden pawn
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ye

slow bay
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ew no

sudden pawn
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well used too

rare stone
vagrant nexus
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the duality...

sudden pawn
slow bay
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my friend actually drew mine

sudden pawn
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artist make such cute ocs then jus be like buh

rare stone
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isn't that like

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a lot of artists tho

sudden pawn
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ye

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unfort

rare stone
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I think my sister in law wants to make furry smut lol

sudden pawn
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like i cant hate them for it cause id do it too

vagrant nexus
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thoughts?

rare stone
slow bay
sudden pawn
vagrant nexus
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thats right.

vagrant nexus
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top 0.01% in korea

sudden pawn
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AN YOUR A BRAUM EL ALI PLAYER OMG

vagrant nexus
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HELLO?

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im a jgl player mostly.

sudden pawn
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hard carried by champ

slow bay
vagrant nexus
sudden pawn
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an i used to play akshan mid

vagrant nexus
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now i can tell u r ragebaiting

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as an akshan main

rare stone
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you might be a rage baiter but I'm a master baiter

sudden pawn
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ye i used to play when he first came out an was lowkey op

rare stone
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I don't even have to intentionally bait or try for people to think I'm baiting

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lock in

vagrant nexus
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wait didnt we play yesterday

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dumbass cat

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and u had

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12 secs delay

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in r1c1

rare stone
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no?

vagrant nexus
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ok ok im confusing u with some1 else

rare stone
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I didn't play R1C1 yesterday

rare stone
hoary crescent
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Re u taking about league

vagrant nexus
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i made a lobby, 1 guy was from north america, one from eastern europe and 1 from brazil and the lobby was hosted in shanghai

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it was cinema

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i revived the guy and he could move 15 seconds later

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LMFAOO

slow bay
hoary crescent
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I'm top 0.001% bidet users

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netherite top 2

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fight me

rare stone
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fuck is a bidet

vagrant nexus
hoary crescent
slow bay
rare stone
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kms

rare stone
hoary crescent
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pleb

rare stone
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bro...

hoary crescent
sullen finch
hoary crescent
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we played yday me and kitty

tall hawk
hoary crescent
slow bay
hoary crescent
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hop on gtfr

vagrant nexus
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hop on r8e2

runic anvil
hoary crescent
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gtfr team

runic anvil
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me an remmy are gtfr'ing rn

hoary crescent
night sage
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hello

tall hawk
hoary crescent
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remmy doesn't wanna play with me anymore

sullen finch
hoary crescent
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legit asking rn to play

sullen finch
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all the gtfo i do these days is like e2 cs gtfr and duos

runic anvil
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its like 3:30 in the morning tbh though

hoary crescent
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wait

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you're right

sullen finch
hoary crescent
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i forgor you guys are americunts

tall hawk
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augh

sullen finch
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ill play in a few hours

hoary crescent
sullen finch
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let me sleep then ill get on

hoary crescent
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go sleep queens

marsh bridge
sudden pawn
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i miss my bidet

slow bay
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i also miss your bidet

sharp condor
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Smh

runic anvil
sharp condor
hoary crescent
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remmy is so good at the game

sharp condor
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😭

hoary crescent
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just like how i remember her

runic anvil
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:3

slow bay
sharp condor
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what did they spawn

runic anvil
slow bay
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i just rewatched it and got super confused for a moment

then remembered you guys are doing gtfr

runic anvil
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nothing too bad

slow bay
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surely a scout that spawns a full wave of mega mothers

hoary crescent
runic anvil
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sometimess potatoes

mellow hedge
# fringe garden so i can only speak for myself so i will only speak for myself i had a long conv...

The superlogger did not have resource mapping when it was first being made. It only came with faster resetting in lobby. Only after did objective item mapping come THEN resource mapping. Your behaviour when this all was first happening does not give me or anyone the impression that you are grateful for the tool. I literally have so many screenshots of what happened when arguments first broke out, as well as proof of people doing what I would call malicious things and saying malicious things to make me and my friends look like fucking satan.

slow bay
hoary crescent
runic anvil
mellow hedge
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This is literally the first convo with the verifiers like a day or 2 after it was found out

hoary crescent
#

"meatgrinder"

runic anvil
hoary crescent
#

"crap"

hasty bobcat
#

Like rn instead of here

#

You too zed

slow bay
hoary crescent
#

genshin impact

mellow hedge
#

I will talk with zed in dms if he wants

hoary crescent
#

i have like 1.5k hours with that flashlight on

hasty bobcat
#

👍

hoary crescent
#

at some point i couldnt play without it

slow bay
runic anvil
hoary crescent
#

remmy is in everyone's clips

slow bay
#

i should poorly photoshop them into my clips

hoary crescent
tall hawk
hoary crescent
#

genshin flashlight might be the mod that actually makes gameplay harder

slow bay
#

surely send mod list lakina

rare stone
#

grrrrrrrrrr

hoary crescent
slow bay
runic anvil
rare stone
hoary crescent
#

exactly

slow bay
#

thems my mods

rare stone
#

RealBackBonus is gameplay altering lol

hoary crescent
#

was wondering

#

what's that mod

rare stone
#

even if it's facing toward you

slow bay
hoary crescent
#

oh

#

wait what?

#

thats insanely broken against crawlers

#

LOL

slow bay
rare stone
hoary crescent
#

alright time to play abortion bye

slow bay
#

i havent experienced anything like that

rare stone
#

I have

#

that's why I stopped using it

#

chargers getting turned around when they get staggered also

#

which means in some cases you can like 3 shot charger giants with Hel Rifle running toward you

slow bay
runic anvil
tall hawk
runic anvil
#

was gonna say

#

i think its happened to me before w/o mods

unreal crystal
#

I don’t remember breakpoints but if they do the turn around animation I’m pretty sure you can just shoot them with hel rifle and it’ll count as back

rare stone
tall hawk
#

you break limb and you get spin stagger animation

unreal crystal
#

Idr if it’s the actual shot while they’re in the animation or if it’s the one after

junior latch
tall hawk
#

while the animation is playing you break another limb

#

and boom you get back damage on the 3rd shot

slow bay
#

i love blinding team mates

rare stone
#

LRF is overrated

#

sorry not sorry

slow bay
#

you are overrated

rare stone
#

I know

slow bay
#

based

rare stone
#

just have too good of a reputation

fringe garden
unreal crystal
#

right

void bay
tall hawk
#

I mean this is as host

#

did it just now

hasty bobcat
#

wait no it doesn't

#

listen

#

it's like giant melee

void bay
#

DOnt know about chargers that much. But what i said at leats works on giants when meleeing

hasty bobcat
#

it doesn't update multi until it finishes animation no?

fringe garden
#

it doesn't update until animation finishes

hasty bobcat
#

yeah

#

that's why you can break limb on spin

#

when it's fully front facing u

rare stone
#

but that like cancels the animation

#

I meant mid-animation you can get back multi with backfix

tall hawk
#

oh I see

rare stone
#

think it might be more noticable with something like BC?

pastel sky
junior latch
#

It could be
Front hit -> break and stagger
(Spin animation but front facing) -> stagger again, instantly making its actual orientation shift (and start a new stagger animation)
Full back dmg -> kill

#

Since yea. The animation absolutely has to finish before the orientation does if uninterrupted

fringe garden
# rare stone but that like cancels the animation

basically when you re-stagger it when it is already backfacing mid animation it forces the facing direction to update (because the animation is forcibly ended early) so it realigns it with the facing direction of the enemy model

runic anvil
rare stone
#

I said backfix makes it so you can get back multi mid animation

#

without staggering

fringe garden
#

mm

hoary crescent
#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
hoary crescent
#

@runic salmon

vapid solstice
#

Now that we're doing modded/fanmade rundowns, E2 wasn't that bad... 🥲

wraith marsh
#

modded gets a lil crazy

tall hawk
#

do not pick up the virus core

pastel sky
#

progress on our team btw

#

R5E1 is done

#

after like 5 hours of attempts

mellow hedge
#

huge

pastel sky
#

no scatter too

graceful geode
#

Or I'm misunderstanding what you wrote

#

AFAIK what you see is what the game will send to host no matter if you're client or not, regarding back multi

mellow hedge
#

Host and client arent different

void bay
#

I think they are

mellow hedge
#

The hitboxes dont update until the animation is done

#

If host is culling, then the hitboxes dont ever update and thats why you can constantly get back damage on a giant even if he spins

void bay
#

oh its about host culling, not being client

slow bay
#

Its always host vs client issues smh

gaunt nacelle
#

All day is just yap yap yap

#

We should all just sleep

#

Become a part of the horde

vapid solstice
#

sniper too lets go

pastel sky
#

the sniper gaming is real

#

time to now do R7D1

rose nova
#

r7d1 so good

wicked pond
#

Question about the charger scout. Can you kill it with the Hel rifle? And if so where are we supposed to shoot it?

hasty bobcat
#

Back

rare stone
#

not like right behind it but positionally its back has to be facing toward you

wicked pond
#

I did shoot it from the back but it didn't die

rare stone
mellow hedge
rare stone
#

yeah Hel Rifle does just enough damage to kill it from behind without boosters

wicked pond
#

And i was the host

rare stone
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mellow hedge
pastel sky
#

If you didnt shoot it from far away

#

it would die

rare stone
wicked pond
frozen lion
mellow hedge
wicked pond
frozen lion
rare stone
#

unused melee model in the files

wicked pond
slow bay
rare stone
frozen lion
#

we can easily clear 8e2 (so long as we don't miss ammo) no booster, yet the same team is struggling with the 2nd level

vapid solstice
#

we've done X1-D1 so far

gaunt nacelle
#

When’s the Tartarus surely

frozen lion
#

x2e1 is something else

slow bay
vapid solstice
#

we got pretty close to the end last run

#

for x2e1

#

died on the room with the 3 moms

frozen lion
#

damn, your team might be better than ours

slow bay
mellow hedge
#

hexalith is pretty good

#

prolly harder than tartarus

slow bay
#

we have barely even made it past the dual alarm

but it is really fun even with all the failing lol

mellow hedge
#

yeah it took a few tries to get the gist of that

gaunt nacelle
mellow hedge
#

yes!!!

vapid solstice
gaunt nacelle
#

Who up rn

gaunt nacelle
#

@steady terrace 🙏

slow bay
slow bay
gaunt nacelle
#

Wow

slow bay
#

also, wilt went to bed

gaunt nacelle
#

😭

frozen lion
#

I'm going hoping off aswell

gaunt nacelle
#

Geegees

slow bay
#

aight, looks like another time then

burnt flume
#

jesus i have a lot of reading to catch up on from a few kids doing playground politics

pastel sky
slow bay
#

like, that level alone

gaunt nacelle
#

E2 is bosspam surely

slow bay
#

well X2E1 kinda is too tbf

#

waves 2/3 have tanks (with 3 being repeated a lot)

rare stone
slow bay
#

then there is a mother in the first code room

rare stone
#

and a bunch of them can be avoided

#

either with lucky spawns or just stealthing

slow bay
#

yeah E2 isnt really spam

gaunt nacelle
#

It’s not spam

rare stone
#

it kinda is nightmare spam tho

gaunt nacelle
#

It’s close though

gaunt nacelle
slow bay
#

5-8 tanks max

#

3 mothers
1 p mother

gaunt nacelle
#

Scout spam

slow bay
#

okay that one yeah

pastel sky
#

what does have more boss enemies

#

R4E1 or R8E2

slow bay
#

E2 for sure

tall hawk
#

R4E1 is 4 moms + double boss at the end

#
  • like an average of 3? tanks from error
slow bay
#

R4E1 has like 4 or 5 mothers, 1 p mother, 1 tank (plus however many you get from error based on speed)

pastel sky
gaunt nacelle
slow bay
#

but realistically, max 8 tanks from error

gaunt nacelle
#

Many thanks to you

tall hawk
#

R8E2 is 1 mom in first zone, mom tank in second zone, tank in bypass, double mom in 1st nm6 zone, tank in hub, 1 tank in 1st code zone, 1? tank in wave 2, 3 tanks in wave 3, 2 moms in code 3 zone, pmom after 2nd nm6, 2-3? tanks in kraken zone, kraken and then like idk 4 tanks that may or may not show up at the end after you finish the scans

gaunt nacelle
#

Boss spam !!!!!!

burnt flume
#

i don't get why people like that level so much

rose nova
rose nova
#

like figuring out where to hold reactor

#

learning nm6

#

the fast stealth is v dynamic i like a lot

rose nova
tall hawk
#

I mentioned both those things

rose nova
#

oh i read wrong thhe waves

#

at the end u say 4 tho

tall hawk
#

yeah I'm not sure how many it is

rose nova
#

also u put a ? in th wave 2 tank so

tall hawk
#

might be 3 or 4

rose nova
#

but yes its 3 at the end :3

#

funny guys silly guys

tall hawk
#

I like jumping down to meet them

rose nova
#

shake hands to say gohbyes

mellow hedge
rose nova
mellow hedge
#

my 5 key is weird 😔

rose nova
#

:3

#

is it 5

#

ghostly told me it wwas 3

#

misinformed :[

mellow hedge
#

it is 5 can confirm

rose nova
#

ghostly why

slow bay
rose nova
#

w wah

mellow hedge
#

or you left one asleep in B or smth

#

cause you cant roll 1

slow bay
#

we searched ALL of the zone

mellow hedge
#

do you have replay file

slow bay
#

hmmm maybe

#

ill go see

#

sadly nope

#

possibility that i have the the video tho

#

nah dont have a video clip

#

maybe just a bugged spawn then

pseudo sedge
#

honestly i could see only 1 tank spawning

#

maybe even 0

#

the odds of it can be really weird cause of the seed overflow stuff that happens in e2

slow bay
#

oh so just E2 bugginess

#

makes sense

pseudo sedge
#

idk if this is the case

#

but if a replay would be dropped with this, it would not surprise me

slow bay
#

does that zone spawn enemies from the start or when you get nearby?

pseudo sedge
#

from the start

slow bay
#

i could reroll it a bunch and see

pseudo sedge
#

u would need to do a lot of rerolls

#

u could honestly try

slow bay
#

damn, would hate to get this seed

mellow hedge
#

pretty standard

pseudo sedge
#

one good ctrip does wonders

near stag
pseudo sedge
#

that box is so nicely placed for it

zenith grove
rose nova
ancient dove
#

Fellas, is having more competent bots cheating?

#

i just can't stand my bots phasing through door and chasing me with a medpack/disinfectant

#

in the middle of a fight.

#

i had all three bots equipping medipack chasing me unironically.

burnt flume
#

it does give an advantage so reasonably it could be called cheating, i stay away from it anyhow

gaunt nacelle
ancient dove
#

ye

gaunt nacelle
#

depends how you use them

#

if you config betterbots to 100% accuracy without friendly fire well, yanno

ancient dove
#

eh i like friendly fire, it adds to the immersion.

gaunt nacelle
#

and with zombified initiative ive heard you can kill any enemy silently due to the melee function

gaunt nacelle
ancient dove
#

no of course not 100% accuracy, that's literally aimbot lol

#

i mean0

gaunt nacelle
#

mhm

ancient dove
#

they already are using aimbot technically.

#

vanilla bots is fine for me, i just don't like how they switches to melee when enemies are in range.

gaunt nacelle
#

i dont know of any mod that specifically fixes that

mystic moss
#

bots when there is a giant in proximity

gaunt nacelle
#

but also

#

run away from hoards if the hoard gets close

ancient dove
#

i like to be able to control bots freely and more complex, instead of... carry this and drop this.

#

basically i wanted them to be paralleled to real players

gaunt nacelle
#

no mod is gonna make that happen afaik

#

bots are harder to change than reg datablocks

ancient dove
#

sometimes i intentionally friendly fired the bots

gaunt nacelle
#

yeppers

#

if they got like a 1 use medi i do too

#

anyways learning how to play around bots will be fine for most levels

#

that or hop into pubs

zinc elbow
#

I want friday again

rose nova
#

samies

sleek pelican
#

I love when Hackett ragebaits my duo by shooting them.

slow bay
pastel sky
#

I fully stopped playing with bots if there is a tank in a mission

#

cuz they cant do shit

sleek pelican
#

Hackett is my favorite boy, hands down

pastel sky
#

my hackett will never get burst cannon again

#

cuz he keeps shooting me

#

and I take like 40% of my hp from 1 out of 3 bullets he fires off

sharp condor
#

I can do that for Hackett

#

:3

pastel sky
#

no you cant cuz you are denying to play the game

sharp condor
#

no I’m kinda busy rn

#

Going home le rn

pastel sky
#

where have you been

sleek pelican
#

Hackett may have blown up the door right in front of us, almost incapacitating the whole team, but at least he didn’t shoot me twice through the skull with a shotgun “because he was bored”

sharp condor
pastel sky
#

ooo finally holo got some game

sharp condor
#

yea

sleek pelican
#

Caesar salad and Carbonara duo~

sharp condor
#

she was late 15 minutes I’m killing her lwk

sharp condor
#

Tho expensive as SHIT

#

goddamn

sharp condor
sleek pelican
#

🤹

#

Apparently that is the emoji that comes up when you search “kill”

sleek pelican
zinc elbow
#

🤹

sharp condor
#

I’m going to 🤹 my grandma

#

Oh so it does work

#

Wow that’s weird

sleek pelican
#

Stev is going to 🤹 Hackett

gaunt nacelle
#

@sharp condor hop on

wicked pond
#

Are those sectors icons from a mod?

burnt flume
#

yeah, medals mod

#

don't worry about it

gaunt nacelle
#

medals mod, if you speedrun or want to get into it could be fun to have

sharp condor
#

:3

gaunt nacelle
#

grrrrrr

hoary crescent
polar canopyBOT
#

Your group is on a 4 day streak! 🔥 Here are yesterday's results:
👑 4/6: @tiny mist @sleek pelican

polar canopyBOT
tired frigate
#

Hey so can shadow scouts live without their heads?

stuck fractal
#

no

tired frigate
#

So uh

#

Explain this then?

stuck fractal
#

they are like shooters if you blow up the head they explode

tacit shoal
#

you hit shoulder

#

lmaoooooo

#

my bad its not funny

stuck fractal
#

bro hit shoulder

tired frigate
#

HIS HEAD IS MISSING

stuck fractal
#

yeah cuz u hit the shoulder

tacit shoal
#

same with giaants

stuck fractal
#

let spear take care of shadow scouts

tacit shoal
stuck fractal
#

or hammer

#

Anyone but knife

tacit shoal
#

stfu

burnt flume
#

striker model

stuck fractal
#

I speak as resident shadow scout

#

I know how I die

tacit shoal
stuck fractal
#

yes

stuck fractal
#

excuse me?

tacit shoal
#

jamie IS a shadow scout

sharp condor
tired frigate
#

They still can't live without their heads

sharp condor
#

Their hit box is different and I think that they can live without it

#

Nvm

#

Cool

tacit shoal
#

if you hit their shoulder it breaks head

junior latch
sharp condor
#

but they live?

junior latch
#

so if you do enough dmg to break the head but not kill

sharp condor
#

Headless chicken

tacit shoal
sharp condor
#

haha

sharp condor
#

Hit boxes

tacit shoal
#

bro like

junior latch
#

also shoulder hits though

tacit shoal
#

a shoulder and a head are different

junior latch
#

shoulder hit "removes" the head hitbox but leaves the actual head hurtbox there

tacit shoal
junior latch
#

no this works for giant strikers and other stuff too

tacit shoal
#

so you can still shoot a giant head after you break shoulder?

junior latch
#

it technically lets you use less bullets on a PR kill into giant strikers (woooh)

tacit shoal
#

if im understand this right

junior latch
#

super useless tech

#

ye

#

its just invisible

tacit shoal
#

i didnt even know that

mystic moss
#

jish would be so happy to hear invisible giant head being mentioned

junior latch
#

yea

#

jish when invisible giant pr tech

gaunt nacelle
#

Team i swear they didnt hit shoulder

#

Cuz both of the arms were still there

tacit shoal
gaunt nacelle
#

Unless the model is different the arms were there still

tacit shoal
#

like im not sure if shoulder breaks arms on shadow scouts

gaunt nacelle
#

Cconsole time !

tacit shoal
#

the only other thing they couldve hit is neck

#

and neck dosent break head

#

im pretty sure

gaunt nacelle
#

I think they hit head

#

But not behind scout

#

Or didnt get entire multi

gaunt nacelle
tired frigate
#

It wasn't helping

tacit shoal
#

well they ddidnt stab at apex of jump

tired frigate
#

cause of the rest of the levels lighting

tacit shoal
#

they stabbed while going up

#

so oooo

#

probably shoulder

gaunt nacelle
tired frigate
#

It wasn't helping here

#

it was actively making it harder

gaunt nacelle
#

Interesting