gtfo-chat

[gaunt nacelle]

🔥

[sharp condor]

guh

[runic anvil]

eva, is brazil skip one of the hardest things in the game?

[junior latch]

yea

[sharp condor]

Why is it called Brazil skip

[gaunt nacelle]

Is it really?

[warped monolith]

I thought R1E1 was

[hasty bobcat]

^

[gaunt nacelle]

Feel like cell skip was harder

[sharp condor]

Why not Australia skip

[gaunt nacelle]

Cuz you skip seeing Neymar

[junior latch]

its likely the hardest genuine strat thats been done full team for the game
But theres harder stuff you can do

[junior latch]

You.. skip brazil

[sharp condor]

I see

[warped monolith]

knife solo tank when

[sharp condor]

wow

[junior latch]

a teleport gets skipped

[junior latch]

doors

[gaunt nacelle]

But yea i got giga carried but i wasnt like dragging the team in any way

[junior latch]

use the doors

[warped monolith]

no doors*

[gaunt nacelle]

I just had the no skill role

[warped monolith]

okok lemme rephrase

[junior latch]

get him stuck on a railing

[warped monolith]

thunderdome knife tank solo when

[junior latch]

wait for screams

[warped monolith]

[junior latch]

but yea obv full team clear wise

[sharp condor]

Solo melee Mega mom when <3

[warped monolith]

gotta be a speedrunning catergory for that

[junior latch]

thats just gun go brrr

[junior latch]

ffs no xD

[warped monolith]

we did 8 man melee, then 4 man, 2man, one day solo

[junior latch]

the r4e1 category

[sharp condor]

Yeah I saw that

The piano song was peak on that clip

[junior latch]

Who did 2 man melee on megamom?

cuz ngl that seems like a massive pain

[warped monolith]

no one only 8 I meant

[junior latch]

aah

[warped monolith]

sorry english go brrr

[junior latch]

weve done 4 ye

[pine root]

Can you even hit enough tumours on MM

[warped monolith]

yes

[pine root]

crazy

[sharp condor]

You should now as a tamer

[warped monolith]

@pine root

[junior latch]

We did it on streamathon casually btw

https://youtu.be/1ya1KoZ9bqc?si=NxcUl4JhlcWQ81GA

or here the old vid

[warped monolith]

theres ya 2 examples

[junior latch]

Replaymod megamom is too hot for me

Just look at those lines

[warped monolith]

except our team had an iron deficiency during the entire fight

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-13481320143050343709

[mellow hedge]

A cell actually kinda ass

hard asf to play

[hasty bobcat]

wdym u just log a 5 ammo in A with it

[junior latch]

https://youtu.be/bfxSk3RJ0uw?si=jj1-QE8aYDack4Bs

7:06:30

[mellow hedge]

got a new update

logging my balls in ur mum

[hasty bobcat]

dw that seed doesn't exist

[warped monolith]

do I smell a round 2

[junior latch]

You sure

have you checked all billion seeds

[pine root]

Dad!

[mellow hedge]

the seed in ur mum does tho 🤔

[mellow hedge]

hello son

[junior latch]

Oh btw jish

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[junior latch]

What was your silksong first run time?

(Speed)

[mellow hedge]

prolly wr

[junior latch]

btw you know what frosty

I think

[pine root]

3:15

Not in leaderboards

But honestly I did some very silly deaths

[junior latch]

3:15 for first seems fun

[pine root]

I think if I do it again no practice and it goes well 2:15 is very reasonable

[mellow hedge]

whats wr?

[junior latch]

i gotta 100% (and start act 3 lol) first

[mellow hedge]

like 50 mins?

[pine root]

Like 50

Mins

[mellow hedge]

yeah thought so

think i saw it somewhere

[pine root]

Yeah people are cracked

Ngl idk how even people are so low like I know I am not good at the game but they get so much time on me

[mellow hedge]

silksong is significantly harder as well isnt it

[pine root]

I don’t think so

I honestly think it is just bosses deal a normal amount of damage

[terse field]

yeah, still pretty fresh so the routes still be changing

[mellow hedge]

like i have such a big urge to just start speeding

[pine root]

hk bosses don’t hurt you

[mellow hedge]

and not care about spoilers

[pine root]

Tbh you only need play for about 10 hours to start speeding

[mellow hedge]

on normal HK?

[pine root]

Yeah

[mellow hedge]

i have 11 hours

[pine root]

LOL

Silksong

hk I forget you just need to be black egg once but idk that can take a bit

[junior latch]

It gives you more movement tools to evade

But HK allows so much face tanking (and charms etc are so easily accessable)

[pine root]

Yeah silksong feels really good

[terse field]

feel like skong is definitely way more riskier in the ability to greed for damage for time

optimal movement is a bit more annoying with the dash down attack cancels. but maybe its not so bad when you get the muscle memory down

[pine root]

I love greedding for damage

Let me hit lace 2 just one more time surely I won’t be punished

[mellow hedge]

wtf is black egg

[junior latch]

Frosty

thats in forgotten crossroads

[pine root]

I used in least spoiler words

[mellow hedge]

which one is that

[junior latch]

the area below dirthmouth

[terse field]

I think you get to any% ending faster in silk than hk casually. But that might just be because of playing hk then silk

[junior latch]

HK should be noteably faster for now

like 30ish min

[terse field]

I mean first time playing through the two games

[pine root]

I think it is because act 3 has a decent amount of content gating it

[junior latch]

ah

hmm

silksong side quest stuff felt more like side quests and less exploration sometimes ye

[pine root]

Act 2 is really big but only 5 things like you actually have to do

Dance claw songs fight fight

[terse field]

Routing must be a nightmare for the longer non any% runs

[pine root]

YUP

I plan on doing that for the fun of it and getting a shitty route for the 100% achievement

But honestly my plan is gonna be rush wings then collect everything

[terse field]

That's fair, for a more casual run of it, just grab all the movement and then methodically clean out all the places is probably the play for the achievement

I assume it'll be a thing, but can't wait for a godhome type dlc, lot of boss fights I'd rather not play through the game again to do

[sharp condor]

Ok so r4d2 pe is hell

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-running-past-gif-3044631603201692058

[sharp condor]

We did sec and fucked up on the class 8th alarm

[pastel sky]

imagine

[sharp condor]

And overload but like uhhhh

Didn’t pick up cargo

[fallen crown]

its recommended to open the overload, ignore the cargo, do sec, clear the path to the end, then go get the overload

[gaunt nacelle]

Only real SIGMAS grab cargo before main 🤫🙂‍↔️🧏‍♂️

[sharp condor]

Yeah thats what we did

We got overrun by the charges still

[fallen crown]

fair, that's what happened to us on our first try too

[sharp condor]

mewing streak

[fallen crown]

haven't done another run yet

[sharp condor]

we KIND OF forgot to c-foam a door

[gaunt nacelle]

Chargers?

[sharp condor]

We didn’t die cause of that totally

[sharp condor]

Bbcs

[fallen crown]

we just ran outta resources on the last alarm

[gaunt nacelle]

Ngl I forgot it had

[sharp condor]

Yeah r4d2 is a fight for resources mostly

And the fog is not really the best thing

Thank fucking god it has a cap

[gaunt nacelle]

Ngl I want a reason to game but no one is telling me to hop on

[sharp condor]

It does sadly

[fallen crown]

the resource zones that also have alarms on them don't particularly help either

[gaunt nacelle]

It does (yippie)

[sharp condor]

yeah you should totally do r4d2 with us rn cause yoy like playing with Stev don’t you ( we’re totally not 4/4 )

[sharp condor]

yeah we ignored those

[fallen crown]

I think we opened like one

[sharp condor]

We kind of didn’t know where the cells were

[gaunt nacelle]

I would join if it wasn’t 4/4

[fallen crown]

just kick someone ez

[sharp condor]

Plus we didn’t want to do them

[gaunt nacelle]

Nah

I wouldn’t do that to anyone

[sharp condor]

2 people are afk rn but no

[sharp condor]

Nvm 1 is

[gaunt nacelle]

Lemme guess stev?

[fallen crown]

install bigger lobby mod

[sharp condor]

Our gang is me Stev cool shades and badger

[sharp condor]

No

Uhhhh

Coolshades is

[gaunt nacelle]

Rather kms than cheat in GTFO

[fallen crown]

true

[sharp condor]

but it is funne

[sharp condor]

it is funne for silly challenges

[gaunt nacelle]

He too cool to not be AFK

[fallen crown]

yes

[pastel sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627770218353131521/1380338224093991032/caption.gif

[gaunt nacelle]

Didn’t ur mom kick you off ur pc or smth?

[sharp condor]

Badger is playing gtfo irl rn

Nice

[pastel sky]

no?

I just went to eat so I dont fuck up another run smh

[sharp condor]

Yes she did cause she hates you and wants you in the grave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327773703760515113/1420699991780888626/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker2-1.gif

[pastel sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139642378337140739/1439224046519848981/fuck_da_discord_ops.gif

[runic anvil]

and we’re the ones being mean to stev

[gaunt nacelle]

#gtfo-chat message

[sharp condor]

:3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-for-attention-attention-gif-8782188443608782554

[gaunt nacelle]

When we do it it’s the end of the world when they do it it’s allowed

[runic anvil]

sounds about right

[gaunt nacelle]

Anti GTFO elitism

[sharp condor]

we are friends for 2 years niw

Ofc I can bully Stev :D

[pastel sky]

ofc cuz you are 10 and I dont want to hurt your feelings so

[sharp condor]

yeah man :c

[sharp condor]

( mostly thr other way around tho )

[gaunt nacelle]

Stev been sending L takes here for 4 months ofc I bully him

[sharp condor]

😭

[pastel sky]

not the discord opps

[gaunt nacelle]

Gng I went to ur streets they don even know you… ha ha ha embarrassing 💷 embarrassing 💷

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-joker-lightning-god-patrick-bateman-sigma-edit-gif-11768805784532291762

you a real sigma bruh

[sharp condor]

im so impressed by this sentence ( end me )

[gaunt nacelle]

Yall ain’t snowers

https://youtube.com/shorts/uNw9VDhBTuo?si=CdXubdt8N6xjIi0J

Embarrassing

[pastel sky]

what is unc yapping about

[sharp condor]

Yeah

[gaunt nacelle]

You ain’t even been up and you still washed… how does that even work?

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-yap-sesh-yap-yapping-dracula-monsters-gif-15229525205063376222

[gaunt nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294398601602273392/1397440163780493412/spin.gif

[mellow hedge]

Pushing powder down my musket so i may snipe an opp

[gaunt nacelle]

They tell me to straighten my shirt, press it with an iron. I was flying down ur streets pressing your men with an iron

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-sigma-alpha-how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-sigma-lion-gif-13957304746104521882

[fallen crown]

wow thats awesome

<@&408548765599793173>

[burnt flume]

i don't trust you jesus29899

[fallen crown]

why, its literally jesus

[mellow hedge]

MEMEMEMEMEMEME

[burnt flume]

because there is only one jesus

[fallen crown]

erm frosty they said dm them cant you read

[burnt flume]

not 29899 jesus

[fallen crown]

how woudl you know

[burnt flume]

because i was there

[junior latch]

But my free ps5

[earnest forge]

Next time

[junior latch]

i even have games for it for over 3 years now

How could you chO

[earnest forge]

I had to get it before Sam won the PS5

[gaunt nacelle]

Sam db or the W sam?

[tropic valley]

mods just want the ps5 before us :(

[fallen crown]

admin abuse

[runic anvil]

truly terrible what this server has come to

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[split marlin]

🥀

[gaunt nacelle]

Team do I pub

Or do I eat

[tropic valley]

its time to get someone in in-game matchmaking their r2e1 clear, time to be the hero

[gaunt nacelle]

(Their modlist says arsenality and stronger prisoner)

[split marlin]

always pub

[split marlin]

wheres apex prisoner

[gaunt nacelle]

What’s apex prisoner😭

[sharp condor]

It is all my fault

[gaunt nacelle]

Foholo ur like bottom 5th on that list

[split marlin]

how come you dont know apex prisoner

[sharp condor]

I’m a btm?

I see

[gaunt nacelle]

YES

[sharp condor]

It is all cause I send the pickle man

[gaunt nacelle]

Cuz I don’t cheat my clears

[sharp condor]

It all started cause of the pickle man

[split marlin]

reload while running, sliding downhill makes you supersonic, less recoil

its apex legend but gtfo

[gaunt nacelle]

Bruh 😭

[split marlin]

also holo i thought you and stev made a pact to clear e tier legit

why did you hire tour guides instead

[runic anvil]

doing neither of those things atm

[runic anvil]

nuh uh

[gaunt nacelle]

Stev just wants to get carried

[runic anvil]

unsurprising

[gaunt nacelle]

Starving and not enjoying my monitor 😔

[runic anvil]

literally

[sharp condor]

I’m not sure

He said to hop on I THOUGHT we were gonna do 4d2pe

But we js did 2e1

It is weird

[split marlin]

its joever

hes addicted to getting carried

cant wait for him to say r2e1 was kinda free tbh

[sharp condor]

lmao

[gaunt nacelle]

Wish soy would pin this

@worn kiln 🙏

[runic anvil]

r2e1 rework boutta go hard ngl

[gaunt nacelle]

Forgot he doesn’t check GTFO discord

[gaunt nacelle]

Surely we duo

[runic anvil]

oh christ 😭

[sharp condor]

Fun

[gaunt nacelle]

Nvm😭

[runic anvil]

the ever so humble 40 shadow blood door

[worn kiln]

When did you become such a hater smh

[split marlin]

just scatter it

[gaunt nacelle]

Haven’t seen you type here in so long 😔

17 days

…

Half a month

[runic anvil]

staggered

but yeah

once you’re expecting it it wont be a v big threat

[mellow hedge]

i've been a hater ever since comps stopped

[gaunt nacelle]

I can see why comps died though ngl

[mellow hedge]

because people cant be civil lmao

[runic anvil]

comps dying just as i was getting into the bulk of the game is tragic

[mellow hedge]

wah wah wah

[gaunt nacelle]

🤫

[mellow hedge]

all i hear

wah wah wah

talking to my baby sister is more interestin

[gaunt nacelle]

I remember I told you we was gonna get a comp run in

To get you a role

[worn kiln]

New job does that

[gaunt nacelle]

Congrats 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[worn kiln]

Also every time I interact with the community it ends in drama

[gaunt nacelle]

I see it even more now x 2

[split marlin]

okay

lets start some drama

[mellow hedge]

theres quite an easy fix to that

[gaunt nacelle]

😔bad community ban everyone

[split marlin]

real asf

[mellow hedge]

facts

comps were so good for the community man

actually felt alive

[gaunt nacelle]

Well last one didn’t have that much traction

[runic anvil]

wonder why that was

[gaunt nacelle]

🤔

[mellow hedge]

Yeah because it was made to be bad lmao

All the speed comps had a lot of people

[gaunt nacelle]

Made to be painful

[pure belfry]

Hope it's going well for you with this

[junior latch]

Surely the events we are planning will be some kind of replacement QQ

[sudden pawn]

surely

[runic anvil]

yeah they’re p goated

[sudden pawn]

I believe

[runic anvil]

just unfort that i never got to participate in comps 😔

[junior latch]

petition together and dm mod contact about comps

[runic anvil]

mmm

worked so well to get media back

but we can certainly try

[mellow hedge]

wild shit

[sudden pawn]

jus create your own comp surely

[runic anvil]

surely

[split marlin]

dodo got too real for a sec there

[runic anvil]

reworked r2e1 speeds when

[fresh heron]

Almost like several of us have tested the new comps and they're surely fun

[runic anvil]

my fault team

[sudden pawn]

whenever your done with it

[runic anvil]

yeppers

got the concepts almost completely done

[sudden pawn]

50 thousand shadow blood door when?

xd

[runic anvil]

soon i hope 🙏

[junior latch]

thats... genuinely what we are doing rn

oh wait

sniff

lol

god damn custom name xD

[gaunt nacelle]

Frfr

[split marlin]

what is this reworked r2e1 thingy

[sudden pawn]

😭😭😭

I forgot to change it ngl lmfao

[runic anvil]

i dont like the first half of r2e1 so am coming up w a rework to make it more fun (hopefully) and more of an e tier

[junior latch]

it already is an E tier

[pure belfry]

50 thousand crawling shadows and sprinting shadow giants

[runic anvil]

nah the first section is just surges

[gaunt nacelle]

It’s a free E tier compared to rest

[sudden pawn]

I think i keep this name change surely

[junior latch]

that part is still an E tier

[gaunt nacelle]

:3

[sudden pawn]

shadow hybrids when??

[runic anvil]

i dont agree but alr

[fallen crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265636854431219772/1297946528643809385/silly.gif

[junior latch]

R4E1 main
R5E1 (non cell skip)
R7E1

R8E2 is intentionally above

[pure belfry]

exists already in modded

same with shadow mom and shadow babies

[gaunt nacelle]

R5E1 defo harder than R2E1 imo

[junior latch]

I do think R2E1 pre error is not very well designed tho, agree on that

[mellow hedge]

sounds like shadow shit 🔥🔥

[junior latch]

shocker

[gaunt nacelle]

R4E1 main is also harder no?

[junior latch]

its still an E tier

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea I mean like R2E1 is free if you can beat any other E tier

[junior latch]

no?

[sudden pawn]

gotta add 5 shadow scout room with 3 moms in it to make it hard sry dodo😔

[mellow hedge]

what are these takes 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[gaunt nacelle]

Free as in its easier

[pure belfry]

The problem I have with modded shadow moms is you just cannot see her tumors well at all without thermals, so her armor was lowered, but now she can just kinda be brute forced

and then shadow baby strikers are exactly as gross as you think they are

[gaunt nacelle]

Not actually free

[junior latch]

no?

[gaunt nacelle]

Guh

[runic anvil]

i dont think an e tier should have a surge alarm designed in such a way that a single turret can solo hold it

[junior latch]

like, R2E1 IS easier

than R4E1sec and R5E1

and obv R8E2

but even after beatng R8E2

[fresh heron]

Bro has not played 7E1 the funny way😔

[junior latch]

spiff n co couldnt beat R2E1 at all

[gaunt nacelle]

He’s not a snower

[sudden pawn]

or ladderfoam for 2 of them in the same area xd

[mellow hedge]

the error section is the harder part anyway

[runic anvil]

i know

am gonna even it out

[mellow hedge]

the second surge is also very hard

[runic anvil]

dw im making it worse

[gaunt nacelle]

@sudden pawn ??? Was !!!!!

[junior latch]

this applies to 1 surge

its also realistically 2, since the hel auto by itself wont actually stop it

[sudden pawn]

[mellow hedge]

that was with scaler as well

[junior latch]

BUT

I agree

the 3rd surge and 4th alarm are bad design wise

the fog part is neat for 3rd

but remove 4th alarm

[gaunt nacelle]

First feels like a chore ngl

[junior latch]

and make 4th tile harder

[sudden pawn]

the surges kinda jus feel throw in there for fun

[junior latch]

2nd is genuinely scary due to hybrids

[sudden pawn]

basically jus wtv go my surge alarms

[pure belfry]

2nd surge in R2E1 practice for 1st surge R5E1

[gaunt nacelle]

First is just run around in a circle till you’re done and then just melee or get lines

[mellow hedge]

pretty sure second surge replaces shooters with hybrids

[sudden pawn]

if the tiles were different it might be alr

[mellow hedge]

if you get bad scans its so fucked

[junior latch]

3rd surge in R2E1 could be reworked by expanding the zone. Adding 2 fluff rooms to the fog zone

and if you wanna be rly mean you make that surge a surge with cluster scans too

so people have to split up for scans

in fog

[sudden pawn]

cause its jus running in a circle

[gaunt nacelle]

First surge R5E1 felt so much harder than second R2E1, and by like 2-3x

[junior latch]

normal surges dont have shooters

[mellow hedge]

yes they do?

[runic anvil]

anyway imma try my hand at making it a better designed level

[sudden pawn]

I believe in you dodo

[pure belfry]

it's the same room just multiple doors on R2E1 and R5E1 you are at very low HP

[junior latch]

have you ever seen a shooter in the first R2E1 surge

[gaunt nacelle]

Wouldn’t say very low

[sudden pawn]

gonna have to have someone mod it in

[runic anvil]

r4e1 surge yeah

[gaunt nacelle]

Like 60%

[sudden pawn]

thatd be dope

[mellow hedge]

yeah thats one surge alarm

[junior latch]

which is the first

[mellow hedge]

im talking about the second

[junior latch]

yea

what i mean is

the first surge in the game

has only strikers

[sudden pawn]

yes I saw a shooter in a vision I had

[sudden pawn]

[fresh heron]

Striker? I hardly know 'er

[junior latch]

[junior latch]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-monkey-turtle-kung-fu-panda-gif-17129341

[gaunt nacelle]

Btw where Brazil skip vid !!!!

Been on my ass to upload it to src yet no vid

[fleet kettle]

Who needed the run - then that person records it

[gaunt nacelle]

I couldn’t be asked to open up obs 🥀

[sudden pawn]

tru

[junior latch]

but ye
as far as I am aware the 1st 3rd, 4th and 5th surge only spawn strikers (or am i tripping)

2nd def replaces the usual shooter spot with hybrids tho

[gaunt nacelle]

Also frosty said he has vid

[fresh heron]

But if that was the case I wouldn't have our run with moth were Eva is yelling to shoot him

[gaunt nacelle]

Eva such a pub ngl

[pure belfry]

first surge of R2E1 is population ID 48 (only strikers) settings ID 21 (surge)

[fleet kettle]

Wait what?

[mellow hedge]

where do the hybrids come from

[gaunt nacelle]

R6D1Reactor skip

[junior latch]

diff settings

[gaunt nacelle]

Second surge…

[fresh heron]

Spelled Froshmeister wrong

[mellow hedge]

cunt

ur daft

[gaunt nacelle]

Yes

[sharp condor]

guh

[fleet kettle]

I still have the vid on my drives, just for yt post I only keep the game audio lmao

[sharp condor]

1:30 4d2pe run

[junior latch]

1:30 is pretty solid

[sharp condor]

Cause 3 people went afk

[sharp condor]

It is not over yet

[sudden pawn]

o no

[sharp condor]

we MIGHT be done

[sudden pawn]

y does everyone afk in your lobbies bro

[sharp condor]

We did the class 8 and decided to uhhh

Go to sec for a blood door with red

Res

[rose nova]

smh

[sharp condor]

Didnt kill the tank try

[mellow hedge]

rendering now

[sharp condor]

Yet

[sharp condor]

3 people had NO ammo

So

Uhhh

Yeah

[split marlin]

Just melee the tank

[sudden pawn]

AND Y DKES NO ONE HAVE AMMO IN YOUR RUNS XDDDD

[sharp condor]

;-(

[sudden pawn]

a reoccurring theme

[sharp condor]

I do :3

[pastel sky]

its a game where you shoot

[sudden pawn]

no ammo an afk

[gaunt nacelle]

The humble knife

[sudden pawn]

thats y your the goat

[junior latch]

yea but you shoot the enemies

[split marlin]

The Stev holo special

[junior latch]

not the air

[sudden pawn]

"my whole teams afk an no has ammo after first alarm guys"

[split marlin]

Throwing for content >>> locking in

[sudden pawn]

oooo tru tru

its all for content

for the clips

[gaunt nacelle]

Stev is just clip farming

https://tenor.com/view/doi-doi-doi-kai-cenat-meme-doi-doi-doi-gif-12134807552850554990

[sudden pawn]

it all makes sense now

[fresh heron]

Thats how you get Captn. Crashout to appear, not advised

[sudden pawn]

slowly connecting the dots now

[sharp condor]

holy shit

We almost died on the blood door

like 15 hybrids

We clutched

I win

[sudden pawn]

maybe it is winnable

[sharp condor]

I think I have shooterbug

Not sure

[gaunt nacelle]

Bro does NOT have the hit mods shooterbugfix and gluefix

[sudden pawn]

😭😭😭

[pure belfry]

@junior latch All Surges in R2E1 are the exact same population ID and settings ID (all strikers surge) except the 2nd one which has Strikers Shooters and Hybrids with population ID 49

[junior latch]

@mellow hedge

[junior latch]

also huh, shooters?

[pure belfry]

their spawn rate is set to Mb so I need to check datablock to see what the spawn pool is set to

The devs re-use alarms a lot though

R2C1 first alarm is the same as final alarm in R2D2 for example

but yeah before I do here it is

[sharp condor]

no but like I don’t think I do

I did get hit by shooters and hybrids but like 3 projectiles

Went thru me when I was reviving some1

[gaunt nacelle]

Ez to dodge ngl

[runic anvil]

were you on a different elevation when they hit you?

[sharp condor]

No

[runic anvil]

probably not shooterbug then

[pastel sky]

@granite cairn what happened

[sharp condor]

Shades crashed :(

He joined back

:D

[sudden pawn]

fuckin hell man

lobby of all time

[gaunt nacelle]

Nah our lobby with Tomas and dodo was lobby of all time

[runic anvil]

what level

[gaunt nacelle]

It was that lobby

THAT lobby

[runic anvil]

uhhhhh

for what, r4b3?

[gaunt nacelle]

Maybe

Uplink

[runic anvil]

mhm

i remember

[gaunt nacelle]

😭😭😭😭

The funnies

[sudden pawn]

o ya that one was a lobby of all time

scatter value was nuts though

[runic anvil]

ooh yessss

i remember that too

just like on hit level r5c3 starvation when you got disconnected during the corruptlink

on the class 7 i was cooking :3

[sudden pawn]

[sharp condor]

😭

[sudden pawn]

no one needs to know of the humble dc

[runic anvil]

not your fault lmao\

[split marlin]

my r4b3 duo ends with host migration splitting us to do solo one room uplink as the finale

it was cinema

[runic anvil]

that goes hard actually

[sudden pawn]

my pcs fault for trynna be silly an goofy

[runic anvil]

mhm mhm

[sharp condor]

We killed tank

[runic anvil]

my laptop boutta be silly an goofy trying to keep up with rendering 40 shadows spawning from a blood door

[sharp condor]

This is so real

I have like 40 fps thru the whole r4d2 pe mission

[sudden pawn]

this time i don't think I can relate this to r5c3

[runic anvil]

nop

my laptop will blow up trying to playtest r2e1 redesign

[rose nova]

dodo on geforce now????

oh wait

[pure belfry]

just bring back OG surely

[rose nova]

cant mod nevermind

FUCK

[runic anvil]

hell no

[runic anvil]

😔

tragic

[sudden pawn]

og r2e1 makes me fall asleep

[pure belfry]

sprinting shadow giants that perform markiplier tier punches

[sudden pawn]

need the dodo rework to be engaged

[gaunt nacelle]

Team i almost ended up in the ER today

[pure belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-gif-23352642

[runic anvil]

moth what

[gaunt nacelle]

:3

[sudden pawn]

bruh

[gaunt nacelle]

Scooter moment

[sudden pawn]

GO SEE A FUCKIN DOCTOR

[gaunt nacelle]

No it’s like

[sudden pawn]

:3

[gaunt nacelle]

Non issue on that part

Bacisly

Right

We got a bunch of rain

Turned into ice

Then melted slightly

And then turned into ice again

So when I was going from train station to home on my e-scooter

I could feel the e-scooter like

Slipping

As I was going forwards

And I also had a steep uphill to get up

But yea

Made it home safe :3

[sudden pawn]

what about your knee problems you have yet to see a doctor about hmmm

[runic anvil]

[[R2E1]]

[crude verge]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2E1

[gaunt nacelle]

Mmmmmwe dont speak of that

Been getting better though lowkey

[sharp condor]

yeah fuck

didn't even make it out of overload

[runic anvil]

shadow scouts woke or

[sharp condor]

error run us over

[pastel sky]

this mission is so unbeatable

[sharp condor]

no we cleared overload without the cargo

[pastel sky]

if every1 is max infect

[runic anvil]

and you died to like 4 shadows?

[sharp condor]

r5e1...

[pastel sky]

like 8

[sharp condor]

bioscanner ded

[granite cairn]

10

[sharp condor]

to spitters

[runic anvil]

why are y’all max infect

[granite cairn]

no?

[sharp condor]

nvm

[pastel sky]

theres infection everywhere

[sharp condor]

i js die

[pastel sky]

it coveres the whole map

[sharp condor]

infectrion after sec

[pastel sky]

including overload

[granite cairn]

cuz we had to go back for res

and took us a lot of time

[runic anvil]

mmm

[pure belfry]

Is this R4D2 PE?

[gaunt nacelle]

Did stev shoot too much again?

[sharp condor]

lwk was a bad decision

[gaunt nacelle]

Yes

[granite cairn]

yes

[granite cairn]

he atleast killed sleepers

unlike foholo who shot him

[sharp condor]

that is

my bad

[gaunt nacelle]

I mean Foholo got rid of the bigger threat

[sharp condor]

i clutched on the res part tho

but

doesn't amtter

cause in the end we failed

but in the end... it doesn't even matter

[sudden pawn]

still see doc

[gaunt nacelle]

Abyways the alarm in the like small room what I usually do is spawnblock so every wave comes from far thing

[sudden pawn]

soon

[gaunt nacelle]

Mmmmwedonttalkaboutthat

[sudden pawn]

[sharp condor]

we didn't do that and DIED

[runic anvil]

r4d2 isnt too bad lwk

once you know routing

[gaunt nacelle]

You don’t know which small room cuz I’m too sleepy to give enough info

[runic anvil]

then its much easier

[sudden pawn]

r4d2 ending be stressful af

[runic anvil]

it can be

[sharp condor]

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyes

[runic anvil]

my clear was very free though

[gaunt nacelle]

I meant alarm small room

[sudden pawn]

remember it being giga stressful cause mako was helping me where to go xd

was blind

an it was pretty close on resources at end if I remember

[pure belfry]

{
"WaveRoleWeakling": 13, (Striker)
"WaveRoleStandard": 13, (Striker)
"WaveRoleSpecial": 33, (Hybrid)
"WaveRoleMiniBoss": 11, (Shooter)
"WaveRoleBoss": 11, (Shooter, can't spawn)
"name": "Modified Rapid Shooter R2E1",
"internalEnabled": true,
"persistentID": 49
},

They are rare but you can in fact get Shooter Wave variant on the 2nd surge

[split marlin]

miniboss shooter

[pure belfry]

miniboss shooter

[gaunt nacelle]

miniboss shooter

[pastel sky]

Ofc the special wave is the highest chance wow

I love hybrids!

[sudden pawn]

jus scatter them lmao

[gaunt nacelle]

Pub Stev doesn’t know what scatter is

[sudden pawn]

oooo shoot mb gng

[near stag]

3rd one not facing the right way 🥀

[sharp condor]

Shades had scatter

[pure belfry]

The IDs are not chances, that is based upon the enemygroup size function compared to the spawn weight of the role of that enemy

[gaunt nacelle]

Stev doesn’t know what scatter is

[pastel sky]

I see

[near stag]

he means how you can get like 10 hybrids in one wave

[pastel sky]

I hated that

[pure belfry]

that can totally happen I've seen like a dozen hybrids over the course of the alarm

[pastel sky]

I am so happy I've fucking finished R2E1 btw

[sudden pawn]

r2e1 is the most boring e lvl ever

[pure belfry]

The chance you see that enemy goes down a lot the further down the role list you go

[pastel sky]

It's just normal for our team to die on 2nd surge cuz we get too unlucky and get like a 6 hybrid spawn and get killed from across the map

[pastel sky]

Yes,and I hate it

It's purely because lack of boss fight

[sudden pawn]

how long do you take to do the surges....

[pure belfry]

every time I have enabled CGWS (not ESWS) to get the waveroleboss to spawn it can take up the a couple of minutes just to get it to spawn once

[pastel sky]

Winning run with sky which he MEGA CARRIED took 45 minutes

[sudden pawn]

it isnt lack of boss fight its jus throwing surges at a wall an being like ye we cooked

[pure belfry]

which you would realistically only ever see rarely or after like 2-3+ minutes of doing the same alarm of which there are few that go on that long

[pastel sky]

The run was so much easier cuz the dude already knew the ways from where enemies come from

Me and Holo didn't know half

Cuz our old best run was dying on 1st surge on error

[pure belfry]

did you get the log after 4th surge

[pastel sky]

Ngl those appear at the start for us and fuck our game

[pastel sky]

Naaa no way there is 1 log there

[pure belfry]

you gotta go back for it bro

its in Z606A

[pastel sky]

If there actually is I am pulling console idc

[junior latch]

wdym knew where enemies come from

its not some crazy science

[pastel sky]

There like a room before a surge

[pure belfry]

waveroleboss cannot spawn in vanilla due to issues with the heat system

[pastel sky]

With like 4 doors

And like zone is huge

And he just said

Put every turret down and it's gonna work

And it did

[junior latch]

yea... cuz its 1 room away from the surge

[sudden pawn]

it a science stev an them haven't tapped into yet

[pure belfry]

It took me about a minute on normal timescale to get that shooter in 2nd surge btw

[mellow hedge]

I love that tru and I got a 5 hybrid error spawn in our duo r5e1

[pure belfry]

they def spawn

[sudden pawn]

the complicated chemistry of spawns an where they come from

[junior latch]

tbf the exact science behind it isnt as easy

[pure belfry]

the complicated chemistry of sniff and being on top of objects/in the ceiling

[junior latch]

but the general rule of
enemy spawn 2 rooms away

unga bunga

[sudden pawn]

its my little hobby

[pure belfry]

no I appreciate it

I was watching the hide and seek streams too

learning about how to make tiles that dont have easy cheese spots or more importantly, unprecedented softlocks

[pastel sky]

It isn't but usually we just close all doors and put turrets on like diff doors

If we haven't done the trick of just opening 1 door it would fuck our run

It was amazing he knew that

[junior latch]

..

[sudden pawn]

I had like 0 good spots last stream it was so cooked😭

the first one i played i had some good ones

[sharp condor]

Real 😢

[sudden pawn]

good god😭

yall know how to funnel?!?!

[sharp condor]

What are y’all talking about

[sudden pawn]

^^^

[sharp condor]

what

Stev we never do thay

Except the class 7 scan

[sudden pawn]

😭😭😭😭

[sharp condor]

I… hope we don’t

[sharp condor]

No it’s lit impossible to funnel there

[sudden pawn]

yall are scaring me rn

[sharp condor]

The whole area is just fucked

[sudden pawn]

idek the lvl or tile yall are speaking of rn anyways

[sharp condor]

R4D2 the class 7 in main

It’s a tight room with 2 doors and the doors thatnlead into the alarm room are fucked

It is possible to funnel but you’re better off c-foam + mines

[harsh cobalt]

is that the one that leads to the tank room?

[sharp condor]

No tank room so class 8

[pastel sky]

We lit did that in almost every other mission when we use c foam and mine

[sharp condor]

Yeah but we still funneled even there

[pastel sky]

We mine every door , put a turret we hope enemies will spawn first and then just hope it works

[pastel sky]

In two missions which is that one shitty room R4D2 and 2nd surge of R2E1

I think we never like on purpose funneled

[sharp condor]

I clearly remembered doing that on almost of all r6 bruv…

[sudden pawn]

yk what tile it is?

[sharp condor]

And r3 and 2d1 d2 and e1

[junior latch]

i prefer pushing spawns to 1 side and then shooting the other with free hel rifle lines

[pastel sky]

Where do you funnel in R2D2 bruh

[sharp condor]

hel rifle piercing 🤤

[pastel sky]

It's reactor enemies they are set spawn

[sudden pawn]

spawn an the pub spot

[sharp condor]

then not d2 am dum

It was some other mission

Wiat I’m making a cheeseburbur

[junior latch]

no? lol

[sudden pawn]

vro doesnt snow

[pastel sky]

Aren't reactor enemies the exact same enemies every run?

[harsh cobalt]

yeah but their spawn locations aren't static

you can influence them

[pastel sky]

That's good to know

We did do some strats on reactors but not really funneling

As we would have more than enough ammo,smth like R6D3 where we would just spawn camp every single enemy funneling did not matter

[sharp condor]

I made the cheeseburbur

[sharp condor]

I guess I am not dumb

[junior latch]

funnelling isnt done to have great ammo econ

its to make the shooting easier

also ngl no reactor rly has ammo issues

R7E1 is probably the tightest

well or was, before hel weaponry

[pastel sky]

I mean If you funnel every enemy in one line then you can have one teammate wipe a full reactor wave with few hel rifle mags unless it's like a hybrid that doesn't die in 1 shot

[pure belfry]

how would you feel about a format where you can only use weapons that were available specifically during the OG incarnation of that rundown

[pastel sky]

If you had ammo issues then reactors would be 10x worse to deal with

[sharp condor]

7e1 is a reactor???

[pure belfry]

that would bring back chokes role in R7 right

[pastel sky]

Yep you can read mission bios

[sharp condor]

I didn’t read that for 7e1

[pastel sky]

I saw footage of that where like rundown specific weapons were buffed or smth but that does not happen anymore

[pastel sky]

The mission is literally called CHAOS

[sharp condor]

Fun

[junior latch]

it wouldve been more balanced (depending on how you handle R8 tbf) in some ascpects

[pastel sky]

What were R8 weapons

[harsh cobalt]

on paper that's probably true, but the conditions in levels dont usually allow the theoretical maximum value on hel rifle. the firing corridor just makes it easy to kill things in general

[junior latch]

weapons were simply available or not available during those times

[pastel sky]

I see

[junior latch]

short rifle, burst pistol and slug shotgun

[pastel sky]

Wow like the 3 most dogshit weapons for the hardest rundown

[junior latch]

R8 doesnt have rundown specific weapons cuz it got released after ALT rundowns (which brought back all weapons into use)

other rundowns had their new weapons (sometimes) and then also had their unique roster of old stuff (and the base weapons that always showed up)

[near stag]

the R8 patch did buff scatter

[pure belfry]

also nerfed sniper

[harsh cobalt]

didnt it nerf sniper, too lol

[near stag]

pls i want my 3 round good firerate sniper back

[harsh cobalt]

i want my r6c2 goat back

[pastel sky]

How bad was scattergun before it got buffed

[near stag]

it was good

i remember it had slightly less damage, but 3 shells

didnt really read into numbers tho, since iwas using BC and sniper

old 5BC was sexy

[pastel sky]

I mean how much did they really buff scatter

[graceful geode]

Burst Cancel 5 shot R4 BC was overpowered

[pastel sky]

If you could 1 shot giants up front already then the buff did not matter that much

[graceful geode]

Otherwise I remember OG R6 Sniper being also pretty strong

[deft aurora]

join us for a free cookie

#lfg-beginners

[near stag]

iirc hel pp got gigabuffed aswell

[pastel sky]

They just nerfed like average weapons like sniper and buffed a pretty good weapon into a power house

[pastel sky]

How tf did 10C nerf bullpup

[near stag]

reload

[pastel sky]

Bullpup is basically unplayable today outside B tier missions

[sudden pawn]

thats what they want you to think

[junior latch]

128 to 153 dmg

[pastel sky]

That's still 1 shot to giants cuz they have 120 hp

[junior latch]

you can win with bullpup in any level
its just gonna be more difficult than the best weapons

[junior latch]

and its still an incredibly massive buff

[pastel sky]

Not really that but like it's gotta have the least amount of damage out of every weapon

I would use an ammo pack and use it to kill at like max 6 sleepers if I hit every shot which is awful compared to basically anything

And like weapon looks so cool why did they shit on it so badly

[junior latch]

stev

what

[near stag]

iirc sniper was always meh to low tier. I think just because of it being a sniper the usage rates were still high, my theory is that the saw the numbers and mistook it for being good

[pastel sky]

I guess idrk

[pastel sky]

Bullpup can't kill shit with a bad reload

Like that's really much it

[junior latch]

ok so 1. its not the lowest dmg, but yea its quite low. It gets the highest main prec multi in return. Not great though

it has generally a normal efficiency for a main.. in theory (but thats just full autos being less efficient in normal play)

[pastel sky]

Good thing Abt bullpup is it's really good for mother spawns

As it deals pretty good with babies

[junior latch]

bullpup with ONLY body shots

can kill 6 strikers

bullpup is not good for babys ngl

like

its not good at all

you dont 1 shot with a headshot

and shoot way faster than the spawns happen

[harsh cobalt]

it doesnt matter so much for the one-shot thresholds; it matters because the damage / pellet was increased by 20%, on a gun with a shitton of pellets and a wide cone

[junior latch]

eeh

thats a partial help

the dmg buff from 128 to 153 means a few things

[pastel sky]

I mean it's the ONLY weapon that can 1 shot except sniper which has a long reload,cannot deal with swarm and also needs precision damage

It just looks like a better sniper in every way

[junior latch]

1. easier 1 shots on giants
2. bodyshot 1 shots on chickens and hybrids
3. 2 shots on mom
4. potential 3 shot and easy 4 shot on tank (vs 4 shot being semi tight)
5. easier pmom aswell

and then what syn said making it better for wave clear due to higher dmg pellets

[graceful geode]

Super old comment from OG R6 #gtfo-chat message

When Scatter vs Sniper was a thing

[junior latch]

not sure if that was pre or post nerf og r6 scatter

pre nerf og r6 scatter had 192 dmg...

and way too much ammo

for that much dmg

but the comment is also wrong

og r6 sniper was BUSTED

the range meant with any aim you nuked any giants of the map from anywhere

hybrids didnt exist

[graceful geode]

It was very busted because I also remember it getting a fuckton shots per ammopack

[junior latch]

tanks were a great matchup as youd 3 mag it (likely 2 mag with a decent teammate) from super safe distances

[graceful geode]

while scatter was way less lenient in terms of how ammo you get

[junior latch]

6 per refill ye

[harsh cobalt]

oh i didn't know that buff it what let it hit 2-shot on mom, but yeah, that checks out. pre buff scatter is like 470 damage on a 1000 hp target

[junior latch]

nah scatter already had 5+ per refill

[graceful geode]

🤣 lel

[pastel sky]

You telling me there was a better scattergun than today's one wow

[junior latch]

192 dmg scatter was just stupid

128 scatter is a high A - S tier weapon anyway

[pastel sky]

They will never find a way to balance this gun

[junior latch]

its just not free mom delete

[pastel sky]

That can like 2 shots tanks

[junior latch]

not quite no

[graceful geode]

It's the same old story, the game doesn't have enough different situations to allow for the huge gun roster it has to be balanced

[junior latch]

but it was a free 3 shot

[harsh cobalt]

192 scatter does 422 dmg to tank, 1000hp target

(assuming all pellets)

[junior latch]

the most realistic way to balance scatter (if you wanna keep it) would be to lower precision down to 0.5 (or even lower)
then lower its ammo to below 5 (where idk)

then buff sniper back

[rose nova]

scattergun 2 in the mag 2 in the reserve

[near stag]

Prec 0

[idle ermine]

what about just fixing the net code

[rose nova]

how bout u fish so u have a fixed net

[graceful geode]

Does it change that much in relation to scatter? As Host you can solo a mom with Scatter/Sawn off

[junior latch]

it removes the 2 shot on mom essentially and makes killing low hp bosses harder since you are technically only doing tumor dmg

[graceful geode]

I mean I'd also fix all those shit bugs the game has that crash it BEFORE worrying about op guns

[junior latch]

but also

lol

what about fixing all bugs?

[harsh cobalt]

add more pipes under every bridge

[junior latch]

if you rly fix netcode scatter also still is insane wave clear

[harsh cobalt]

make every bridge a softlock

[rose nova]

how about game is just good first and then bugs and then net and then weapons and the-

[junior latch]

now better for all clients

so if no boss scatter is BETTER

big change

[graceful geode]

eh but then what? I've seen enough videos of killing mom with Scatter/anything as host solo that I dont think tumor damage being fixed would change that much in relation to network

unless you make that only 1 tumor can be popped every X amount of time

but that's too artificial to make bosses last longer

[junior latch]

the difference between a clean and rly rly lenient/easy 2 shot

and needing to finish her off

is massive

there is a reason why in smart lobbies you dont have host scatter kill mom

and why we never slot it for that reason in speeds

[graceful geode]

okay but shift the context to a team of 4

and not speedrunning

does it change that much?

[near stag]

Just make all blobs never Pop. Buff all weapons

[graceful geode]

Someone in a lobby had a mod to make you do that (he was hosting)

it was insane tanks got deleted superfast

[junior latch]

yes

needing a sawed off

to finish mom

is like needing to swap to your main

after a sniper shot on a giant

its disruptive and a noteably difference

[harsh cobalt]

i mean i play in a pretty layman squad and we still put scatter on client becuase having to deal with a mom spawn is more pain in the ass than we'd like to deal with if we can help it

[pure belfry]

GlueFix + MemoryLeakFix + ShooterBugFix are the main triad preventing the game from crashing, other than that its mostly checkpoints/latejoin and trying to rework that code is... gross

[graceful geode]

It's way more expensive but you can just negate a single mom with HEL PP/Veruta or HEL Shotty spawnkilling the babies, eh

[pure belfry]

what I have right now is a list of very jank edge cases on mechanics that shouldnt work that way such as type 6 spawns for Flying enemies, enemy alert state storage, and among other things, the various softlocks

[junior latch]

you still need to kill mom though

and you can get aimpunched

or mom gets a moving birth when team is shooting it at birth start while you kill babies

[graceful geode]

yes but to be fair it shouldn't be a modder's job to fix bugs THAT big

[pure belfry]

agree

[graceful geode]

well I'm not alone in my scenario...

Even if I did do it once on R4C1 with HEL PP Veruta

and it was surprisingly not as hard as I thought

[junior latch]

also pls dont use hel pp for babies if theres other choices

its not great for it

[graceful geode]

Yeah I took it for surge

[junior latch]

(and regarding not being alone, refer to the other points and that you are spending ammo on a dead enemy with 2 shot scatter for free)

[graceful geode]

to be fair I dont think 1 HEL PP is doom

[junior latch]

hel pp is good

not good for babies tho

[harsh cobalt]

is hel PP the hel-autopistol?

[junior latch]

you want to 1 shot babies either on a headshot or bodyshot

yea syn

[idle ermine]

@zinc storm go tweak out right meow xd

[pure belfry]

in terms of primary weapons good against babies..

[junior latch]

sawed off/hel shotgun
hel revo/dmr/rifle
carbine/pistol

dont pick slug

for babies

[harsh cobalt]

ngl killing babies with a dmr sounds miserable even if it does one shot to body

coincidentally, my aim is terrible, yes

[junior latch]

its more for spamming on birth

it should be 12 kills realistically

def not my fav pick either for em xD

[near stag]

Take DTR instead

[junior latch]

oh dtr is also rly good for it on spawn

[sharp condor]

dmr is so hard to aim with for some reason

Whenever I use it I have the -5 aim debuff for a god unknown reason…

[near stag]

The scope is ass

The v reticle is lowkey irritating

[burnt flume]

there are worse things in the world

[near stag]

Yes. Not as Bad as Sniper triangular scope

I want the round one back

[burnt flume]

i'm very much conditioned to DMR as a solo weapon so it feels weird to use on client or where other players may be targeted

[idle ermine]

scope texture on quarter res

[sharp condor]

You’re better off not aiming atp

[tacit shoal]

You are blinded by nostalgia

The new one is better

[near stag]

Nostalgia for what. Me playing ETG on my Laptop?

It was Not too Long ago since i have played some OG Rundowns.

[tacit shoal]

No all oldgens think the old scope is better

But it's like clearly not

The new one looks so much better on the sniper

[near stag]

I am Not an oldhead stfu

[tacit shoal]

Played og= old gen

[near stag]

No way anyone can become one by diddling with their Game files 🥀

[tacit shoal]

Oh I meant played it when it came out

Did you not?

[near stag]

Fuck no

I came on Alt R6

[tacit shoal]

Oh

Yeah ur still an old gen