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you have to limbbreak
im nearly falling asleep watching a video, the moment i turn it off and put my phone down im suddenly wide awake
if you're solo
Those ones make it harder for me to sleep
Makes me think my window is open lol
And i have historically had panic attacks from heavy rain
Why arent you red anymore?
You would need 40 stagger damage to stagger without limbs, but a limb break stagger is only 15 damage
because they killed the roles
Damn
you can just full charge bat repeatedly and it's enough
SHAUN
Yeah full charge bat is 12 damage x7 stagger multi
You can do a partial charge and still stagger
But it’s pretty dangerous to chain staggering a giant to death with a bat
S H A U N
well, they did actually update them for the last one (mildly delayed) no?
Answer the question i ask instead of the question you create for yourself please
Why do people always do this man
I know about limb break
I asked something different
if you wanna go with soft stagger then theres 2 ways for bat
tap hit spam or charged hits
honestly I dont think theres much to worry about charge% ngl
How much bat charge is 40 damage
I graphed it earlier for the uh
Hammer
But idk how to graph this because it also changes the multiplier
From 5 to 7
did you account for stagger multi also scaling with charge%
Yeah
but also, why do you need a precise charge%
How
Because i wanna know
I like knowing things
Instead of guessing
Like how i know that 33% hammer charge one hits striker occi
Instead of going 50% to be safe
It would genuinely prolly be easier to learn by feeling it out than calculating it and trying to execute exactly before the giant can cleave you in half with his tree trunk arms
well regarding your prior question. How much charge you need for it?
none
i'm pretty sure other multis like stagger scale the same as the damage between light and charged
Doing 40% with a swing as lazy as the giants animation
some scale cubically others linear
That’s not a focused attack, that’s flailing about to get you to fuck off
i see the swing as more stiff than lazy
which ones scale linear?
Valid
if id know 
I was about to ask
like the giant’s limbs don’t quite function like they’re supposed to
bruh lmao
i'm pretty sure most relevant things scale cubic
since he brought it up when I asked ages ago
Knew?
The only linear functions I can think of off the top of my head are falloff
but I didnt bother to remember that specifically (which tells you a lot considering I know basically all gun stats of my head)
the STAMINA cost is linear
oh, it was on topic of melee charge stuff*
okay to answer the aforementioned question of how much charge you need to do 20 stagger damage (which then x2s from back damage) with bat is ~.456, so ~50%
not linear things in general
assuming stagger damage also scales cubically which i'm pretty sure it does
smh what kinda rounding is that 

listen i gave a more precise number if they want it and gave the number that would be easiest to shoot for
Then maybe it’s all cubic yeah
Only other thing I can think of is how the back multiplier isnt always 2x, depending on your facing angle to the target or some shit like that, but idk what function that is
something something dotproduct
tragic
it actually isn't unless wiki is lying
i first assumed it was just 1- dot product of facing vectors but it is like just arbitrary cutoff stuff
Cool and good
maybe i'm misremembering then
I think the minimum back damage you can get is still 1.5x though
or was it like 1.44x
What.
oh god
1.41 iirc
idk man i just look at the funny numbers on wiki
And the wiki often isn’t just wrong about numbers because that’s usually dug up by people that mod weapons so they know a lot
I’m not gonna say it’s wrong but it just sounds so fucked
The horror game is the coding nonsense we stumble into trying to understand this game
oh wait
i just checked my copy of the code
the actual function is based on Vector3.Dot
they probably just simplified it to what that inherently uses on the wiki to make it easier to for people
Ah ok
Eva what was that thing you said about permastaggering mom
In your melee tier list
Iirc
it was probably either old hammer could perma stagger, bat can perma stagger, or both at once
I'm misremembering
can you not refer back to it?
I was LIED to this aint black
John G
G stands for gay sorry chill we have kidnapped your into lgbt
isnt this birthday colour

hammer was able to easily perma stagger mom in a team
bat still can
yoooo whats up
hai
hey i litterally just got GTFO like a couple days ago and i know its recommended to have people to play with
so I joined this discord because the match making sucks
the game is very difficult and playing with others to suffer together is better than alone, that's for sure
yeah and I just thought itd be better
so youre right
hey hey! you can use the discord's LFG channel to find people to play with, or just run levels with bots if you're so inclined. i'd recommend starting with r1 as its the easiest rundown and acts as a sort of tutorial for the rest of the game. if you have any questions dont hesistate to ask :3
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
alright thanks man
of course! have fun in the complex :3
hey quick question what should i do bout AI not at all getting into a scan zone?
its a full team scan and without daude (the only ai in our team) we just cannot do it
we're like 2 checkpoints in restarting is NOT an option
Reset the game
Thats the point
Checkpoints brick them for some reason
Or resetting the same mission bunch of times
And their AI breaks
what level you playing
r6d1
just reset tbh
it sucks but the bots are gonna be fucky
unless you restart the game
Guys
kick the bot
the readd it
Just get rid of the one bot for the scan?????
its kickable?
.t stuck bot
If the bot is stuck somewhere, or you need to de-spawn and re-spawn it, hit the ESCAPE key, locate the bot and change the permission to "locked" to despawn the bot, then change the permission back. Bot will then respawn.
guys i might be extremely intelligent
my genius knows no bounds evidently
canon
I had this problem nonstop on R7C2, they always get stucked on that mission for some reason even without using checkpoints
This is the peak of modern gaming design dont you think
Listen here, buddy
. GTFO is the pinnacle of flawless game design🫃 . ZERO bugs🐛 . Not a single one🚫. Every enemy spawn? Perfectly timed
. Every door🚪 ? Opens like it was handcrafted by Swedish🇸🇪 door artisans. You think you saw a glitch? WRONG
. That was an immersive emergent gameplay feature
. Enemy floating through the air✝️ ? That’s called aerial intimidation tactics
. Got stuck in geometry? Congratulations👏 , you just found a tactical cover position
. This isn’t a game — it’s a work of art🖌️ , polished so smooth it could be used as a mirror🪞 . 10/10
, no bugs🚫 🐛 , only features🦐 , stay mad, dont @ me
.
thats a pretty gayass gif to have, easy save
Okay the new joke is putting gay to everything I see
I see Luci
yeppers
I load in—BOOM 💥—my gun’s gone 🔫🚫 I reload—BAM 💢—my flashlight’s stuck on “strobe rave mode” 🕺🔦✨ my teammate tries to place a sentry? congratulations 🎉 it’s now phasing through the fourth dimension 🌀🕳️ we’re all screaming over voice chat 🎙️😱 like it’s the apocalypse, because IT IS ☠️ except instead of monsters, it’s just physics giving up on the will to exist 📉📉
and don’t even talk to me about the doors 🚪😤 the DOORS, man 🫨 half the time they open into a void 🌌👻 that swallows your soul 🫀 and your ammo count 🔢💔 the other half, the alarm starts 🚨🔊 the enemies spawn 🧟🧟♂️ and the only thing that’s working properly is the sound of my tears echoing through the comms 😭🎧
and the developers? 👨💻🧑💻 I imagine them in a lab coat 🥼 staring at a monitor that’s literally on fire 🔥🖥️ muttering “looks good, ship it” 🚢💀 like, bro, my melee swing just sent me to Narnia 🗡️🦁 my teammate’s trying to hack a terminal 💻⌨️ and it starts reciting ancient Sumerian 📜👁️
except that gif actually is gay as hell to have saved
Atleast in our like lil group
i've not seen that one, goated
Me luci and nother guy I haven't mention are like
Ones who actually talk to women
Tsm is one who is scared of women
And holo is just
A child
Ok
Or drone victim idk pick a struggle
wild
my discord gifs are long gone already
no salvaging that
need more
Who even puts effort in this shii lol
yeah, can you give me their addy
thats too scary
Dude I saw a teto pfp I genuinely thought it was him LOL
haiiii
Me
Okay not that one but other ones
goated
Shitposting: 80/100
I jus changed it last night cause I listened to love machine again and was like it's teto time
Tsm doenst have a teto pfp but he def likes that type of shi
😔
tetopear my beloved
Pearto
is that jane doe
it should be one of the girls from boochi the rock
the headphones
i thought were rat ears
the hair colour is more or less the same (minus the internal blue colour), and the face looked so similar
yes that's what her name was now I remember
the problem is that there are so many animes with so many characters, it is sometimes hard to say who is who
yeah that's true
they all start to blend together
Hi together, we are looking for to prisoners 🙂 who would join us for R1B1?
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
hello! as mentioned you can use the LFG channels to find others to play with; if you need anything else dont hesitate to ask around! experiment with loadouts and have fun in the complex!
thank you 🙂
hows everybody doin
undertale 10th anniversary remixes dropped today so im doing quite well
good but our our 3rd buddy left us in the middle of the mission
hella, glad to hear gamers, im doin good too
alot better this morning, gotta get back on the grind here soon
ye i gotta grind later tonight but im probably gonna put it off for tmrw xd
Man i wish i could play gtfo with cool people
sad they are not here

yeah its not really possible with this community
she's right
https://discord.gg/eAcwYxzf @runic anvil @sullen finch
True after that disaster yesterday
ye what happened im curious
Mudrock!!!
i think it was in reference to our modded rundown attempt
ooo okie
i am writing every single piece of lore i can find on obsidian and linking stuff between each other "oh but you can just read the Wiki"
i know
you can also read the docs pinned in #gtfo-lore
no worries, i have them saved and the pdf files and most of the things there
oh good
tthe only things i get a liiiiiittle bit mad is this is probably going to be the third time i get head into a game's lore but i am never going to see all of it
Chaos was malicious and triggered many wipes 😔 all them trust me
What rundown?
hm
But wiki says mom has 1000 stagger hp
How do you stagger it
Precision multipliers stack with stagger multipliers
Bat has 12 damage charge attack, 7x stagger multi, 5x precision multi on tumor, means 3 fully charged swings to stagger a mother
It’s not the fastest melee mother kill in the world but it’s definitely one of the funniest ways to melee kill a mother
two bats can perma stagger a mom
wasnt a hard level, just throwing :3
Is permastaggering mom a good strategy
no
why not
it is optimal if you do it with scattergun
takes a good amount of time, risky, scatter two shots so why not just play safe
its technically optimal if you wanna save ammo but its hitbox sucks ass for stealth sooo
But it lets you potentially stealth it
r4e1 but code hunters have bats and clear mom room 🔥
Yes sir
i wouldnt say stealthy is a high priority on the list for meleeing a mother with bats, theres a very real chance it can get a scream off
i think arg goes, everywhere youd want to stealth mom you can just slow stealth past since it takes more time to stealth mom with melees
if you REALLY dont want to shotgun it to the death with the literal every shotgun except slug that tears mothers in half and staggers them damn nearly as fast and just wanna save ammo with the mother being the only thing left alive, go for it
even then i think burst canon is fine enough for killing moms, and if youre not bringing bc or scatter its looking like quad hel rifle/gun which isnt great (assuming good knowledge based team)
what is this about?
None
staggering a mother with melee is where it started specifically
You don't stagger her for shit anyways
Just shoot if it comes down to it
It's not like giant limb breaks where you can chain it all together
we love running births
But i want my unconventional strategies
unconvential is blowing it up with tripmines
Well kill a tank with a machine pistol first
THEN you can start thinking how you melee bosses
Okay
splash just kill kraken with spear ez
It has reach for a reason
me remembering goat blowing herself up with a mine on the mother in r5c2 extract and instantly laughing when i see this message as a result
I mean when you've ran out of all ammo
Blowing it up is usually a play
Mom mines are a lot more consistent than tank mines afaik
Who are we blowing
foam both ez
pablo
the other way around 
Alejandro
I doubt that
I have never been able to mine a mom
not my physics teacher 🙏
What would it take to kill Pablo
i will attest to this, i spent like 10 attempts trying to clothesline the r4c1 tank with tripmines and only got the kill once
Damage hacks
cheats
/killall
or whatever the cconsole cmd is
possibly getting on the knees could kill him aswell
wait
You can't kill Pablo
You do so little damage the game rounds it down to 0
moth changed color
You have to do like 10 gyatyllion damage at once to even get 1 damage
his funky roles are gone
they stole my premium vet giga toxic speedrunner role
You only have to hit it 50 million times with a sledgehammer
You can't
I just said why
😔
back to normie beta pub
I don't believe u
I want to believe I can do this
hit pablo 50 trillion times and try one more
i can confirm, the armor is too thicc so the damage gets rounded down to 0
Someone used cheated mines to do like half his health once
Let me see if I can dig that up
Oh nevermmind it was in media
its in media
It's now lost media
😭
You have to do millions of damage at once
how did i know
Or billions
It has 1 billion health
even if it didnt get rounded down
armor though
Effective hp
It
Has
Armor
Taking armor into account
Yes, but rounding errors
Like 99% of damage reduction
So anything under like a 100 rounds to 0
he doesnt have a back multiplier
still 0 dmg
Uuuuh
even if you had infinite strength syringe it would probably take like fucking, literal years
1 dmg
@gusty burrow would do a better job explaining it
But they fire individual weak pellets
or looking at [[immortal]]
What about 100
0 dmg the pellets dont deal much damage individually
1.1 dmg
yeah i dont think scatter would work
Better
Doable
Just have to do that a couple million times more
It's also why pablo actually has a stagger health
but including it makes it seems like you can actually get there
So it was removed
actually now that i think about it, i dont think any bosses have back multis
yes
Technically moms and tanks do
no
i doubt that
If sledgehammer did damage it would only take 3 years of meleeing it
I wonder what the immortal ate to become like that
LOL
jus dying light drop kick em
I don't think the legs are exactly weak
stronk tongue tho
plus 3
They are holding his full weight
he could prop itself up wiith 3 tongues fr
Hot
the last line specifically makes him ignore back multi
Yes
iirc its a unity limitation, some stuff cannot be set to 0 or bellow
or at least their spaghetti code
so all damage done to pablo is 0.01x?
yes, but not that low
rounding
sniper with max agressive special damage who get 0.52 dmg on pablo
would that round up
Down
the base value cant be certain values, but rounding will occur for calculations
😔
honestly, i would like to know why aswell, this code is pretty whack indeed
pretty much all decimals round down if they need to reach an integer number in this game
if you add all max special damage booster you can get to 0.66
theres also floating point bs in this game
which is why a lot of weapons have XX.X1 damage or soemthing like that
As far as I know an integer cant be a decimal like 0.5 it has to be a normal number
that 0.01 added is a failsafe to prevent floating point errors making shit like hi caliber pistol not 4 shot a giant
with the jank in the code maybe its possible to find the dmg that somehow got round up?
dying light my beloved
do you crane it?
im craning all over the place
have you tried the beast?
havent personally
heard it has some cool polish references
i don't believe this
hp is a float
AMMO is a float even
damage dealt being an integer is just incorrect
^
If stuff were integers then things like getting different amounts of ammo from ammo packs wouldnt happen
@fresh heron
Did you pull her bcs she was good
Or did you pull her for the window?
Window
At least you're honest
isn't the beast them trying to make up for the bad dl2 launch
that's what most steam reviews say
at least
the beast was originally planned to be a dlc right
then they decided there was too much content for it to just be an addon so they made it from the ground up
its got better reviews than dl1 or dl2
is the first dl worth playing
i have it from epic games giveaway but too lazy to play anything
aw
gamplay is rally good tho
are there guns
yes, they feel good
the parkour feels really smooth as well
dw, i only feel that way about machine pistol and hel rifle/gun
No love for the hel pistol?
machine pistol my goat
:(
No hel revolver?
It sucks
autopiss is fun but i wouldnt fuck it
i love hel revo in a platonic way
The sound?
The reloading
burst cannon id probably fuck tbh
I’m not talking about that lmao
someone find me that gif of someone lubing up a machine gun
hiiiii dodo
But the sound I like the most of all
Is when the scout gets alerted and charges the scream
Bc you can reflect on your actions that you fucked up

That's why some people disappear from the LFG
well you got the right mindset I guess
…
You need to redo r7a1
why
i also suck scouts

playin a significantly worse level than anything in r1 🔥
im playing hit level r5d1
in game rn?
in vc with someone who wanna play d1
ewwwww
wheres my invite
full 😭
perchance
dude my game crashed again
109775242269095266
Your group is on a 68 day streak! 🔥 Here are yesterday's results:
👑 4/6: @sleek pelican @icy narwhal
5/6: @tiny mist @hallow slate
Makroo and 2 others are playing
Forsaken and Theundeath are playing
slendo [no mic version] [Fish] was playing
Any player from vietnam?
yeap
cool
i dm ya alr
Ray_ was playing
okay there's something weird
no matter what lobby I join enemies play no animation aside from throbbing and waking up, stealth-wise
Everything else is fine
and if I host it's okay
Even opening doors is super-okay
it's just stealth and animation that dont work well
are you using the enemyanimationfix mod? because this is a lifesaver for stealthing giants for me
No it's
scouts are also fucked
they dont retract tentacles
they just resume walking and the tentacles disappear
I never heard about this bug, crazy shit O.o
maybe the host is living on the moon, I don't know
no, happened in different lobbies
and I restarted even the router and the PC
I dont fucking know
Uh
Someone has a similar issue in #1049599987878723635
I'm recording it
it's SUPER weird
I have this when I lagspike
or when I'm super desynced but
in that case everything lags
in this case everything is fine aside from enemy animations
ok team am i crazy or has the internet (both at home and cellular) been kinda slow for the past few days?
I am invading you
Wait as in limbs dont break or heads or anything?
Do you take damage?
same moth same
They do BUT
Now that you make me notice
I dont get orange hitmarks
ever
It's... they jitter
and I cant explain it any other way other than they take half a second to die
Scouts dont retract their tendrils animation
they just resume walking and tendrils disappear
enemies NEVER play the croaking animation
they go from silent to throbbing to waking up
this sounds really bad 🥲
EAF and KillIndicatorFix never looked so good huh… I wonder what’s happening
opening doors is super smooth
and aside from no orange hitmarks and enemies being somewhat jittery it seems fine
I was just in-game last night and everything was fine then
But this sounds like it needs to be client
I played yesterday and it was nice too
And I was not hosting
today all matches I am client in are this weird mess
there was a pretty big steam outage last night
Ok
I also do not show damage
Like, from my screen I'm at 20% but I had slendo shoot me once and it didnt sync
It only shows me 20% or 0% when I die
@rose nova for some context over why I asked you to shoot me 🤣
Slendo teamkilling? No way
Lel
healing myself doesn't work either by restoring the hp bar
healing noone works
hps are all fixed
Yes
Head do
but only with melee
guns do not
nor even other player hitting them

me too? 🥺
well if you keep up whatever you and rem were doing yea
Sex isn't real wdym
you havent seen dodo and i in the same room
this is the reason goat is scary
Sex literaly isn't real, it is a myth by vivsypop to sell sexjokes for hazbin and helluva😭 🙏
what levels do you still need to beat
or sec/ovl/pe
R6D2 onwards ig you could call it
@gaunt nacelle still hasnt done r4d1 solo smh
first clear was always PE
i have wdym
i have only ever done PE lmao
when?
and i mean no bots
big if true
you can't expect a girl to compete against 2 sentries and a bullshit biotracker
but i can damn well try
AND the 3 bots on top of that
i can in fact expect a girl to compete
but you can't get a girl to complete 
equal rights, equal fights
no im too ugly
debatable
that was a sex joke not a partnership joke
meh same same
ugly face could be a big turn off
moth ugly confirmed
not true tbh
(i know)
pink
your self perception will always be wrong cuz you remember pretty people more 🔥 (or smth idk im talking outa my ass)
no wonder i remember you so much
could say the same about you
IM ORANGE NOW YIPPEEE
eep time for ibbit
eep :3
hoping to be out of bed around 12
goon night ribbit

I cast orange upon ye
osu....
🦧
click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles click the circles
For some reason, when i play a pve game i become way better at aiming
enemies are a lot easier to shoot in pve games than players
Well yeah, but i typically play tf2 on 2fort
Where all the new players go to
Probably them being so clueless that it throws me off lol
I CAN HEAR THE CLICKS IN MY SKIN
my teacher jus dropped some dude from the class for being 10min late to class XD
@frozen olive
I Just Made this cool sleeper drawing

put this in #arts-and-crafts , looks fire
??? holy blunder
the creature
my teacher is actually crazy for this class😭
some teacher for us they drop them for being late for more than 1 second
wild fuckin shit
Didnt know that existed thanks
ye if i got here like 5min later, would've been ggs
Brother I didn’t show up to a SINGLE math class last semester and passed with a HD
damn passed witth 720x1280 what a gamer
ye i didn't show up 3 times cause i was sick an she was like ugh your only allowed 2 absences a semester and if your late or absent again your dropped.....
My boots are shaking
OMH
So scaryyyyyyyyh

Remember hackers are all femboys and if you want them to stop just tell them you will rail them
need to find me some hackers
ye i was gonna say that sounds pretty good
Me when I figured out ctrl+alt+c for the first time
me when i figured out how to fake a mail from my teacher telling me i could go home
Is this uni?
Man, I don’t think I could ever achieve a High Definition in a math class anymore.
We just have a policy where if you are late to the first day of class, you are automatically dropped, but no other uni enforced attendance requirements.
Scriptie kids when they finaly figure out how to use the scripting app
its community college😭😭
going here for some prerequisites before I go graduate at my actual uni XD
jus have one semester at my 4 year to finish out
Talk to me when you have your masters and barely showed up for it 🥱
will be doing that sooner or later xd
saturn devouring his striker
am i crazy or after r4 its just error alarm + fog mission over and fucking over
on like r5b3 and i swear its lke all the time

noooooooo r5 is fun and unique and has interesting gameplay elements that leads to a good experience
dw infectious fog is mostly done after r5b3 in r5, only a couple levels after that have yucky fog
pretty much every level after R5B3 has notable fog
i love hauling a fucking turbine while getting attacked by error alarms for the whole mission yippeee that shit is so boring
r5b4 has a little, r5c1 doesn’t, r5c2 has non infectious fog, c3 has very little non infectious fog, d1 fucking sucks, d2 has thick normal fog, and e1 is in the game
B4 has infectious fog that rises
C2 has very dense fog that exists for the first half of the level
D1 has pretty mild fog and infectious after sec
D2 is extremely dense fog for 2 or 3 parts of the level
E1 has extremely infectious fog
yeah
R5B2 PE remains my most hated level in GTFO
the R5B2 PE disdain club grows
based as fuck
easily the worst level in the game imo
it’s fucking terrible in every regard
no redeeming qualities whatsoever
but sec sucks if you have bad foggies rng, the error is tedious as fuck and makes main a giant pullfest with nothing interesting to do because the error is rng direction, overload is everything bad about infection and errors in a single sector, and also scouts and collection objective rng zones because fuck you for wanting a reasonable experience
its not even close to the hardest B tier (not counting R8B3 and B4) but its definetly the most obnoxious one
there is a string of 4 or so missions across rundown 5s A and B tiers that is just this
you get it
I would like to add that the lore logs are also in very inconvenient areas that are massive chokepoints (specifically the one past the OVL alarm on the left side which might not even be where you need to go depending on RNG)
getting the lore logs was nightmarish
tfw infection makes it impossible to tell if the lore code has an 8 or a 0
(lost 2 minutes to that nonsense)
you mean O vs 0
the GTFO terminal font has a dot in the middle for 0 but O is just the letter
you mean you don’t like having your screen constantly distort while you try to read little numbers on an ingame screen???????
real shit
holy fuck why do people think R5 is the best rundown when it has some of THE lowest lows of the entire game
gonna let b2 be one of the few levels with exactly one (1) clear in sec
i don't think people do?
like 3 really good levels doesnt save the package
who the fuck is saying this
r6 or r8 is probably best rundowns by far
that i agree with
i can see arguments for either
two of my favorite levels are in r5 and i still would say it is by far the worst rundown
like r2 and r4 are better than r5 genuienly
so much so
like R7B2 is really do nothing and R7C3 overload is obnoxious but as a whole outside of that i really love r7
yep agreed
there are redeeming qualities even in the “bad” levels of r2 and r4
r7b3 also feels giga meh for me
except r4c2 but like
thats fair
i like r7b3 personally but its not one of my favorites
i just think its a good evolution of what some previous rundowns underdelivered on
hard survival segments and a use of cocoons that doesnt make me want to skin myself
genuienly rundown 5 is only "fun" if u accept just doing main in certain missions
like r5d1 is ok with main only
real shit
r5a1 is a pretty good A tier without secondary, r5b1 secondary should just genuienly be removed
R5C3 is a level i really like, and i dont see many people talking about it
it’s like they decided that optional objectives should be like some kind of punishment
r5a2 thankfully the optionals are giga short
holy shit a fellow starvation enjoyer
r5a3 optionals are just a slog, just do main only, 10x the fun
i love c3
R5 is just notorious for how insane it is, especially OG and especially before the hotfix that reduced Cocoon distribution, a good example EVA told me about is R5C2 gen cluster zone was cocoons
r5b2 main is okish, uplinks are bad but overload is okish
a2 feels like what optionals should be, short, sweet and to the point
i dont think it beats R5D2 in terms of enjoyment overall, but i think R5C3 is easily my 2nd favorite level in R5
You know R5 hits different when even A1 is the largest A1 in the entire game by far
real shit
me and rem have been duo clearing it
it’s a goated level imo
personally i like r5e1, r5c2, r5d2 above r5c3
thats fair
OG R5D2 had a cluster alarm in the side zones for the Class X on the way to get cells
i dont like r5c2 that much personally, purely because main just sucks regardless of what objectives youre doing
but sec and ovl are good
main is pretty annoying yeah
r5c2 does feel very long while youre doing it, even if it only took a bit more than an hour
R5 is a very memorable rundown no matter how much you end up liking or disliking its levels
yeah
ill agree to that
R5 is memorable and changes you as a player for getting through it
it’s got some very strong levels and some very strongly horrific levels
impressive mix of designs
there's a good reason I have been focused on the wiki pages for it
and also why R5A1 wiki page is like the template I use for wiki lexicon and formatting
[[R5A1]]
main is actually quite fun if you go faster
it just feels like a drag after sec/ovl .. cuz they dont give you cells 
eva, you cannot convince me of that after ive seen your R5C2 main speedrun
reminder that a good bunch of people
- said R5 is a top tier rundown when R6 came out
- said R6 is a dogshit rundown
- said R6 was the easiest rundown ever (when R1 and R3 existed before it)
nah that is genuienly fun
hm?
we just giga yolod it for a good time
it looked like pain to me, but i guess thats just my personal perspective, fair enough
if you slow down by 10% you get a very consistent run
what specifically :o
the thing i don't like about r5c2
is the level layout forcing you to backtrack a few times
go forward for cells, back for generator, forward again for extract
it blows
the weird alarms super deep in the main zone are a bit wacky
it works out in a speed since you simply grab other cells during that cell walk
but still
just the wipes to relatively minor mistakes cause theres not much ammo to fall back on with any error that wakes giants or scouts, it looks kinda painful to me
vile opinions tbh
ah
tbf thats entirely what tgb and me talked about
When trying to push a specific speed/time we play on the edge where shit that usually wouldnt is now a wipe scenario. And we dont rly play safe in moments where we could (sometimes we still do, but thats when its obvious a wipe otherwise)
yeah that makes sense
I think R1D1 is a very simple and good example
you need the ammo from 2nd zone. Preferably more than 4 uses
if we dont get it, we cant send of more than 1 person and even that is timeloss so wed rather not. This leads to the 1 person getting swarmed 1 of every few runs if unlucky
If you play for smth like 8:15 you dont need to do that, you just send 2 people or loot boxes when going in
leads to funny wipes tho
same as when goat, me n co did brazil skip
that moment of goat using the burst cannon instead of cfoam on a c-scout

thats the new strat
I will be fair to this crowd, R6 does feel like it's holding back a lot of punches, it introduced checkpoints which introduced a lot of cheesy stuff into the game when talking about the crazy amount of stuff that was wrong with checkpoints on release and even still a lot persists to this day
but R6 doesn't hold back punches anymore come R6C2 Sec, the X levels are all good and so are the D Tiers, and it does not have levels as insane as R5's B tiers
dont take me wrong, R6 at launch def had issues
r6d4 be hella fun an decently challenging
i do remember mire had issues with A1 to C1
then it had 2 of the worst long standing bugs in the game
for being too easy
(at least not at the same time)
checkpoints in most the r6 lvls feel giga useless
there was people pissed about stamina
but C2 and after are all really solid
and obv the general difficulty (but that was people bitching so much...)
yeah
people jus like to bitch bout anything xd
they are all decent an above
R6BX, CX have their issues and neat parts
i dont think R6 is too easy once you get past the early levels, hell R6C2 Sec was a kick in the teeth with the sheer speed of the hybrid error
i kinda love BX
the schaeffer bucket
4 hybrids jus feels like overkill
I have issues with the "1" levels of R6 in ALT specifically (except D1) removing all the dialogue that ambiently played, so I ended up focusing on all the empty parts left in that wake
thats alt r6 lore issues ya
and yeah i agree B2 is prolly the worst level in R6 just cuz it doesnt do much, but it still has those pretty scary 1 room uplink spawns in sec tho
R6B2 on its own (main) is actually quite a solid inf. fog introduction
secondary is the issue (uplinks woooh)
oh right i remember what c2sec ending now
C2 Sec end is fucking crazy lol
honestly, it might actually not be 
barely remember r6c2 sec tbh
did that with moth i think
all I remember is hybrids xd
thinks it’s like 3 hybrids every 45 seconds
we did not live 😔
EVA you should help Mimikium clear R8B4 Sec some time and end the curse
o ya we was kinda hella prepared for it so it was pretty simple
we were very much not prepared i fear
2 rifles a sniper an a scatter was super easy to deal with jus annoying xd
Dodo playing R6?
3 hybrids every 45s im pretty sure is the most rapid flux of hybrids in like, the entire game
we woke a scout in one of the rooms after mom so
yeppers
as long as you hit your shots its ight
just roll perma full hybrid waves on R6C1 or R5E1
can happen 
gotta find the time to run r2e1 and r5e1 w people
god full hybrid waves in R5E1 would make me so sad
at least its near the start
I swear I thought moth did R2E1 with you
we died during error 🔥 🔥 🔥
my framerate was killing itself and i was missing shots 😔
ohhh thats sucks
plus idk the layout of the level
OG R2E1 allowing foggies to be found during the error is crazy
ALT explicitly doesnt allow that
fortunately once you make it past the first zone, the error is actually very linear
the first zone is a big chokepoint for low-familiarity
it's OK though it kind of evens out because OG Z606 equivalent was in fog and had spitters and sleeping enemies so you have to dump your repellers around plus the surge wasnt a cluster surge
that part is way better in ALT
yeppers
think it would be significantly easier this next time around
plus if i could get moth to stop falling off shit that’d help too
never
not even like normal falls either
he had cell in the donut room which was clear of enemies
and he fell from this little ridge along the ceiling all the way to the bottom floor
had 80% prior
truly a moth moment
truly
moth is not attracted to lights like ordinary moths he's attracted to high falls
so true
also call me high falls ig
brasileiro para formar squad?
I have literally just gotten the game, any tips?
It appears I have not in fact selected the question channel, My apologies folks.
you’re fine
stay here :3
Okayyy thank you :)))
okie so if you’ve not played through the tutorial i would definitely recommend that
thats mathematically impossible sry
mostly though i’d say that in the beginning experiment with weapons and tools, ask plenty of questions, and don’t let the game get to you too much; it’s pretty challenging so you’ll die a lot to start



