#gtfo-chat

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gaunt nacelle
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😭 get this guy off the road

shut vapor
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!!

slow bay
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I dont do it when there are other cars around, dont worry

gaunt nacelle
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Smh

slow bay
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And i go under speed limit to be more safe

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Roads are empty af rn

3am

gaunt nacelle
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I go over

mellow hedge
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Mfs when they get arrested

gaunt nacelle
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;3

gaunt nacelle
slow bay
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Frosty, do you got a license?

gaunt nacelle
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No he got seeded E2 clear tho

shut vapor
slow bay
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Noice

gaunt nacelle
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Don’t believe you

slow bay
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Guys, i found a long straight bit of road

shut vapor
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I left my proof at home sorry

gaunt nacelle
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This guy is avoiding sending proof

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Therefore he doesn’t have proof

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Therefore he doesn’t have a license

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Therefore he is lying

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!!!!!!

shut vapor
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I've already doxxed myself once this evening, no more

gaunt nacelle
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😭

shut vapor
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Maybe tomorrow as a treat

slow bay
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Behold

The beach

gaunt nacelle
gaunt nacelle
slow bay
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Nah its raining

gaunt nacelle
slow bay
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Istg, if one of you could see how well i drive, toud stop worrying about me lol

slow bay
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I drive better than my dad (even he said so) and he drives several hours a day

gaunt nacelle
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Quantity ≠ quality

slow bay
# gaunt nacelle Quantity ≠ quality

Lots of city and outback driving for him

Tricky roads and such

And he has had to drive with a fucked gearbox before where only 4th gear worked

Its fucked taking off in 4th

slender flare
slender flare
slow bay
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Guys, do i microwave my cheese wraps

sudden pawn
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yes

slow bay
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Oki

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@rose nova

Wraps = tortillas/burrito

I am microwaving to melt the cheese

rose nova
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oh u can but better on a nonstick pan

near stag
rose nova
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cuz it picks the thing that u did in the pan

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like ur meat

slow bay
rose nova
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ok uni stundet

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use ur microwave

slow bay
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i dont go to uni bruh

rose nova
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then what r u doin

slow bay
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"midnight" snack

steady sigil
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they just like their cheesy drippy bruh

slow bay
steady sigil
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understandable

runic anvil
steady sigil
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somewhat, i've played it on and off but never completed a rundown

runic anvil
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generally i'd start with the first rundown because it acts almost as a tutorial in of itself for the rest of the game

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if you have any questions feel free to ask around; the people in this server are quite knowledgable and can provide helpful advice and information

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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
steady sigil
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appreciate the advice, i'll keep it in mind (:

runic anvil
sudden pawn
runic anvil
sudden pawn
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thats pretty based actually

mellow hedge
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Alright guys just letting you know I’m going to sleep so just if that disrupts your schedules in any way I apologise

mellow hedge
runic anvil
mellow hedge
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Ok goodbye

sudden pawn
mellow hedge
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Cramming an assignment tomorrow

mellow hedge
sudden pawn
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gonna have to lock in now

gaunt nacelle
sullen finch
sinful cypress
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is the game still getting updated?

split marlin
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r9 any day now

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surely

gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
gaunt nacelle
hasty bobcat
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the game is done since year and a half

gaunt nacelle
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Check last update date

sharp owl
gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
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oh shoot

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any news ab the new game yet or no?

gaunt nacelle
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.t dow

foggy plankBOT
hasty bobcat
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like boom the end

gaunt nacelle
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Yeppers

sharp owl
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ohh ok

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any mods?

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for extra content

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or nah

runic anvil
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yes!

sharp owl
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dont mind me lmao im only on r1 rn hahash fell in love w the game

runic anvil
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plenty of fanmade rundowns and such

sharp owl
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awesomeee

gaunt nacelle
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Then go mods

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It’s my take

sharp owl
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i always do that lmao

gaunt nacelle
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Majority of mods are a LOT harder than base game

sharp owl
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i was just curious ab the future of the game

gaunt nacelle
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Ye

sharp owl
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or like

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eh

gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
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got it ty

lost lynx
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Gtfo usually takes between 300-500 hours for a new player to complete it on average

honest parrot
sharp owl
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me with r1c1 lol

rose nova
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u ccan always ask for advice tho

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🔥

gaunt nacelle
sharp owl
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we already did it

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on c2 rn

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just lost

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lol

runic anvil
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hell yeah

runic anvil
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happens

sharp owl
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yeah

runic anvil
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you found the new enemy type right

sharp owl
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yep

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spikes

runic anvil
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i love chargers 🥰

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one of my favorite enemy designs

sharp owl
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is that what theyre called

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lmao

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damn

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we just called them

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spikehead

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ifk

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idfk

runic anvil
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hehe

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funny to hear what people come up w

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but yeah they're called chargers

burnt flume
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mini spiker

runic anvil
rose nova
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cuernito

sharp owl
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any weapon ideas

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i just run the

rose nova
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🥐

runic anvil
sharp owl
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shelling pistol cuz its the most versatile imo

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we have been

burnt flume
sharp owl
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pistol for main is favorite tbh

runic anvil
rose nova
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r1 is the rundown to just, try all the guns out

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check what u like

sharp owl
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found that out the hard way

rose nova
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short range long range, shotties

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etc

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:3

pure belfry
runic anvil
rose nova
runic anvil
pure belfry
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leaving doors open!!

rose nova
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yes :3

burnt flume
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but not in that way!

rose nova
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i like a lot of things

ebon valley
lost lynx
ebon valley
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bullpup is the best (trust)

sharp owl
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rahhh

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just did r1c2 second run

red lake
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First real attempt at R2E1. Wiped on 3rd surge.

lost lynx
honest parrot
lost lynx
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You made it pretty far

honest parrot
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Not bad

red lake
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We wiped probably 4-5 times to the first surge door because we've been trying to not lookup any strats.

rose nova
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the strat is to skip e1

lost lynx
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Yeah

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R2E1 is 7ish hardest level

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So far into the game nothing gets you prepared for it

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Usually people go back to E1 after doing R3

rose nova
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ehem
"If prisoners are newer to GTFO and have been clearing expeditions in the sequential order of Rundowns, and therefore this is the first E Tier being attempted, it is widely considered good advice to skip this expedition for now and complete (at a minimum) the entirety of ALT://Rundown 3.0."

"E Tier expeditions tend to be among the most challenging and longest expeditions in the game, especially when all prisoners on the team are seeking a first clear."

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  • gtfo wiki
lost lynx
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Basically what I said but longer

rose nova
lost lynx
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I'm stealing that

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New copypasta

red lake
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lol

lost lynx
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Anyways if you really get stuck

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I recommend looking up guides

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Scaler has really good ones

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GTFO is a game that's better experienced fully blind but you also need to know when you need external help

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And not smash your head against the same level for 6 months

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cough cough

halcyon plover
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Hello

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Someone wants to play?

lost lynx
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Dead Space pfp spotted

halcyon plover
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Im new in the game

lost lynx
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Based

lost lynx
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You can use the LFG chats to find people or join a team

halcyon plover
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I already done the tutorial

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looking for some teammates

lost lynx
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Remember to be clear that you are a new player and you aren't looking for a carry

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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
halcyon plover
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one question

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Like

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the "Rundown" that is mentioned

lost lynx
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One answer

halcyon plover
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is like, every time yout try a level it is different

lost lynx
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No

red lake
halcyon plover
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or is like, you have to do r1 to acess r2

undone oar
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rah

halcyon plover
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you die you have to reset?

undone oar
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i just got here

lost lynx
lost lynx
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Each rundown is its own "campaign" that you have access to

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You can just play

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You have to complete levels to unlock further levels into the rundown

halcyon plover
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The number on it is the difficult?

lost lynx
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Nope

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It just means what rundown is it

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The difficulty is the letters

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A = very easy
B = easy
C= hard
D= very hard
E= very very hard

halcyon plover
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thank you man

lost lynx
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As an extra tip

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Take it slowly and be patient

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GTFO is very very hard on nature

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You are going to die a lot

honest parrot
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It's really funny that everyone just thinks E = Easy

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When if you look at the unlock order

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E should be like the very last missions you unlock

sudden pawn
lost lynx
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A lot of newbies come and ask if E tiers are the easiest ones

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And somehow miss the fact they aren't unlocked by default when A tiers are

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I don't really want to be rude or anything

mellow hedge
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Curious

sudden pawn
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yes frosty

lost lynx
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But "videogames illiteracy" is getting worse, a lot of people can't really connect the dots unless the game tells them in detail

sudden pawn
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ye tru

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found that out when elden ring came out

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alot of people didn't get anything cause it wasn't told to em

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and alot of people weren't familiar with fromsofts style either

mellow hedge
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mfs complaining about a games difficulty when the game is difficult

lost lynx
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Lol

sudden pawn
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ye that especially

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with this game an souls likes

lost lynx
sudden pawn
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not alot of people willing to thug it out :[

lost lynx
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That's fair

rose nova
lost lynx
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Well

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"From soft style" isn't really mostly a genre from a single company anymore

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And hasn't been for like

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Over a decade

rose nova
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despite more games being like that, the pure phrase "fromsoft style" kinda still shows how that company is the mainstream one and the rest are mostly enjoyed by people who play fromsofts games first

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i know other exists but, they are- at the end- played by fromsoft fans

lost lynx
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Yeah that's true

split marlin
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we need more yellow paint in gtfo

runic anvil
lost lynx
rose nova
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so the talk of "people who got into elder ring without being familiarized with fromsoft games" sounds like a much different issue than "game hard and it says its hard but people play it as if it was easy"

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kinda like ragnarok and the talk about overaccesibility

sullen finch
rose nova
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3 diff issues

rose nova
lost lynx
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Please tell me that was a mine and not the consumable mine

rose nova
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look at model

mellow hedge
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Erm you can tell its not

lost lynx
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I've never actually paid attention to the model

rose nova
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fake fan

lost lynx
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True

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I hate this game

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This game is bad

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(proceeds to play 500 hours)

split marlin
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now spam cat gif

mellow hedge
lost lynx
mellow hedge
sudden pawn
mellow hedge
lost lynx
mellow hedge
split marlin
lost lynx
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You can love the game but hate the current state of it

sudden pawn
mellow hedge
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Lol the games current state is its best state

rose nova
mellow hedge
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Like

split marlin
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😔

mellow hedge
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Balancing is a little wonk

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but

lost lynx
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Oh I meant in general

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Like games in general

mellow hedge
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Ah

lost lynx
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As a whole

sudden pawn
mellow hedge
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Yeah

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Like D2

lost lynx
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Ye

icy narwhal
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Hey what are good pairings with the hel revo ? Trying to make a generalist loadout that can do most levels

lost lynx
split marlin
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hel rifle

rose nova
icy narwhal
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Pros of sawed off vs hel revo?

mellow hedge
split marlin
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sawed off wins in every category except range

runic anvil
sudden pawn
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sawed off is the best thing ever

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my bby

lost lynx
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It's the gun of all time

icy narwhal
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What have they done to my boy ;_;

rose nova
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so experiment

runic anvil
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sawed off is just broken compared to everything else

sudden pawn
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^^^

rose nova
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i dont like sawed off

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i dont play good with it

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i play better with hel shotgun

sudden pawn
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ive used sawed off too much

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I cant use any other primary XD

lost lynx
rose nova
rose nova
mellow hedge
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Guys

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read this guys username

sudden pawn
mellow hedge
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then put tuah at the end

sudden pawn
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I play hel pistol, revo sometimes

icy narwhal
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I haven't played in a while, and tend to like revolver weapons and the hel revo used to be good so figured it might still be

rose nova
sudden pawn
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carbine I also like alot

rose nova
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im not dismissing it entirely

mellow hedge
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Hel revo is still top 3 main weapons

lost lynx
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It just isn't the better gun anymore

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Sawed off beats it by a mile

sudden pawn
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mb if I worded that shitty XD

rose nova
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oh yeah
i think thats boring then kdnskdm

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no offense but aaa

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i cannot do that

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playing with only one gun feels so repetitive to me

lost lynx
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That's why I use Arsenality

icy narwhal
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So then hel revo and hel rifle? Maybe?

sudden pawn
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I jus like the feel of sawed helrifle so much

rose nova
lost lynx
rose nova
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if u want

sudden pawn
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some hel auto pistol is fun af though

lost lynx
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BP is better than BP tbh

sudden pawn
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im hot ass with revo though xd

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high cal is also super fun

icy narwhal
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I did like high cal when I last played

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Are there any enemies hel revo and rifle wouldn't be able to tackle?

rose nova
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uh
not rlly tbh
i mean theres guns better for some enemies

honest parrot
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Anything bigger than a giant

rose nova
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but tend to be expections

rose nova
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its always about a hierarchy

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careful with the names just in case they dont know them

sudden pawn
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having a gun for smalls an a gun for bigs is jus ggs

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o ya i forget

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my fault

rose nova
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its oke i say it cuz of the other bigger thing

lost lynx
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It might take a bit to take them down

rose nova
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cuz the name of that one is... spoilery

sudden pawn
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im used to talking to experienced oeople i forget😭

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ye

icy narwhal
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I think I used to use hel gun but I read that got nerfed lol

runic anvil
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hel gun is still s tier

lost lynx
runic anvil
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run ts

sudden pawn
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hel gun is still really nice

icy narwhal
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Isn't rifle just better version now?

runic anvil
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different uses

lost lynx
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Different uses

sudden pawn
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pretty much any hel anything is good

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theres always at least one person with a hel type gun

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very popular an all round great

icy narwhal
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Ehh ig I'm just trying to find the best special that's good for taking down most of the big enemies and rifle seems to be that from what you've mentioned

lost lynx
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scattergun cough cough

sudden pawn
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^^

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scatter is super fun

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jus barrel stuff EVERYTHING

icy narwhal
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Can either one take down a scout b4 scream?

lost lynx
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Yes

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Any 30dmg gun can

sudden pawn
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close though

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for scatter at least

runic anvil
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rifle can w headshot, hel gun back of the head, scatter to the body

lost lynx
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You just need to be close and hit head

icy narwhal
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Cuz if I remember high cal could?

lost lynx
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Yes

sudden pawn
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ye

lost lynx
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CScouts might be a problem

icy narwhal
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Oh yeah the armoured ones

lost lynx
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You could also run burst cannon

icy narwhal
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Those were a bitch

lost lynx
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Armor is another thing in GTFO

sudden pawn
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all my homies hate cscouts

icy narwhal
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I thought there were some that had like carapace or smth

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Only back was left open

lost lynx
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Huh

icy narwhal
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Maybe I'm confusing shit lmao

honest parrot
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Did it look like a potato?

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Or did it have spikes?

lost lynx
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The ones you can only damage through their backs

mellow hedge
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You know if something has armour because when you shoot a part of it you get a grey hitmarker

lost lynx
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You can still do DMG hitting the armor but you do very very little

mellow hedge
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Yeah

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It changes depending on enemy

sudden pawn
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Grey hit markers just mean you gotta hit it there moreakshuallyclueless

icy narwhal
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I wish the special revo didn't kneecap you against bigger enemies

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Cuz I might like that weapon lmao

mellow hedge
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Im surprised the wiki doesnt talk about the armour

lost lynx
mellow hedge
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Fun to use tho

sudden pawn
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some guns feel amazing to use while others feel like a wet noodle

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unfort

icy narwhal
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What tools are generally used? Foam and radar I assume?

lost lynx
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Foam is weak by itself

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It's better paired with mines

sudden pawn
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bio is pretty much always used

icy narwhal
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And burst turret was good if I remember

sudden pawn
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yur

lost lynx
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Reinforce a door with foam and mine it

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You can buy some extra seconds while doing scans

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Or to deal with a wave

sudden pawn
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we don't talk about old shotty sentry though.....

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rip that sentry

mellow hedge
lost lynx
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Why

lost lynx
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Why do people always bring challenge runs/Speedruns to normal convos

sudden pawn
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only for comedic value

lost lynx
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Deez have value too

mellow hedge
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I get it

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It was my time anyway

sudden pawn
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its okie frosty your normal to me

lost lynx
sudden pawn
lost lynx
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Normal people can't do that

icy narwhal
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So generally only bring foam if you have someone with mines and vise versa

lost lynx
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Eh no

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Mines works by itself pretty good

mellow hedge
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Basically, cfoam needs mines but mines dont need cfoam

lost lynx
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You'll bring mines but not foam more times than foam but not mines

mellow hedge
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Its like a toxic relationship

icy narwhal
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I'll have to experiment with mines more ig I generally only use them on doors when doing points and whatnot

lost lynx
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That's one of their intended uses

icy narwhal
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So they break door then boom

rose nova
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all yatchs are boats but not all yatchs are canoes but not all canoes float but not all that floats is a traansportatioon medium but not every medium reads the destiny but not every destiny ends on boats

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something so

lost lynx
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You can also pull a room and mine a door if you don't want to stealth

icy narwhal
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Isn't mine like a cylinder so you want it to face into the room if possible?

lost lynx
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You want it to face sideways

sudden pawn
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big doors you can place on side but small ones you can do some cooking an make it point at the door rather sideways

mellow hedge
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On small doors

lost lynx
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Sideways, up ways, down ways, right ways

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Etc

mellow hedge
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Big doors better to have horizontal

sudden pawn
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cause the explosion is a cylinder that kills wtv it touches if its smalls

lost lynx
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Just not mine yourself

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Because it can happen

unreal crystal
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people saying "different uses" are kinda misleading you, both weapons share the same use which is wave clear

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hel rifle just gets more value for less effort generally

icy narwhal
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Alr think ima head to bed lmao thanks for the advice and whatnot. Might try the sawed off to see how it feels but I generally like some range so we will see. Any other suggestions for specials to pair with sawed off/hel revo besides hel rifle and scatter

lost lynx
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Burst cannon

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Veruta :)

unreal crystal
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hel gun is still good i wouldnt discredit it

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hel revo hel gun is a classic

icy narwhal
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It's what I used to run before I stopped playing

unreal crystal
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hell yea

icy narwhal
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People were saying sawed off is better at everything except range so I figured I'd give that a try

unreal crystal
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yeah sawed off is like crazy op

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it's a little sad, i liked the meta better when hel revo was the best weapon

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but it is what it is

fluid mango
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carbine for life

sudden pawn
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carbine is goated

mellow hedge
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the sawed off revolution and its consequences

unreal crystal
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tru's fault tbh

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he was on the sawed off train long before any of us

mellow hedge
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yeah lol

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and they really pushed it in the r4e1 speeds

sudden pawn
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ok but the sawed off sounds so satisfying though I can't lie xd

mellow hedge
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thats kinda where it started

sudden pawn
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same with high cal both of em sound so smexy

icy narwhal
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How would sawed off high cal do?

unreal crystal
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pretty fun

mellow hedge
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hi cal is fun

sudden pawn
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really fun

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one of my favorite combos

mellow hedge
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slug + shotgun is goated

icy narwhal
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Alr lots of specials to try when I wake up maybe lmao i just want my special to be the best generalist at scouts/larger things and then my primary for the smalls

mellow hedge
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my apm goes crazy

lost lynx
sudden pawn
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alot of the specials are really fun ngl

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burst canon is metal af

lost lynx
sudden pawn
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machine guns are hella fun

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ima proud veruta user

lost lynx
sudden pawn
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I USE VERUTA AN I AM PROUD

lost lynx
sudden pawn
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idk what any of that says cant read it

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an wasnt here for when it happened

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xd

lost lynx
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It basically says:

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Machinegun bad

runic anvil
sudden pawn
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actually that gif is creepy af looks ai

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this is better

runic anvil
sudden pawn
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there we go

runic anvil
lost lynx
mellow hedge
sudden pawn
lost lynx
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Dodo already did

runic anvil
pure belfry
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Dodo when are we doing the R5A1 100% speedrun

runic anvil
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lwk it was cooking if im being so honest

runic anvil
mellow hedge
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you arent

runic anvil
mellow hedge
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being so honest

runic anvil
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cosplaying even

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we placed it in the open small security door for class 7

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pretty much trivialized the whole thing

mellow hedge
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hel auto:

sudden pawn
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trust me

runic anvil
sudden pawn
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yes bring back shotty sentry

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let it live again

granite cairn
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Seruta?

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Omg veruta secretly mentioned

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Today is surely a good day

quasi idol
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scattergun sentry

pastel sky
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Holy English

pastel sky
quasi idol
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incorrect, glowsticks cannot be equipped in your loadout

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you are a fake and a fraud

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sledgehammer sentry

mellow hedge
pseudo sedge
mellow hedge
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I need Monster.
I need the blue can in my hand.
I need the hiss when it opens, the burn when it hits.
I need the rush that makes everything feel alive.
I need it more than air, more than sleep.
I need Monster, and nothing else matters.
I need it now.

pastel sky
mellow hedge
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Oh I enjoy a white monster

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Just a different kind

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I drink mango loco monster

pastel sky
mellow hedge
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number 1 flavour

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i keep a white monster on me at all times

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ok im done

mellow hedge
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monster is half price at coles

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$2 a can baby

pastel sky
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For us its like

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1.6$

mellow hedge
#

this is AUD

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so $1.30 USD

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AFTER TAX

hallow slate
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insane

pastel sky
mellow hedge
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honestly the US not including tax in their prices is the stupidest thing ever

pastel sky
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For the drone victim friend for him a monster is like 90 cents

mellow hedge
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dayum

sleek pelican
#

Which monsters actually taste good?

mellow hedge
#

well at least i dont drink multiple a day

mellow hedge
sleek pelican
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Are there any?

mellow hedge
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white monster is good

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original is decent

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there are some others that are decent but mango loco clears

pastel sky
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Its just like

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If a day is awful as hell

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Gotta do bunch of work at once

mellow hedge
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If it gets to a point where you are dependant on it then its bad

pastel sky
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Gotta have 1

mellow hedge
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Like, my mum is addicted to caffeine and has a dependency on it

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but she would never say/think that

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even though she has withdrawals if she doesnt drink it like in the morning and shiot

mellow hedge
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Its like if i drink a monster i feel like i have more energy even if it didnt do much

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its like motivation

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Even just knowing i have one in the fridge

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bro monster might have me in a chokehold

sleek pelican
#

Man… 😔

pastel sky
mellow hedge
#

what is censored

sleek pelican
#

What do you mean, this is such an iconic meme

hallow slate
mellow hedge
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my favourite

hallow slate
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🤩

mellow hedge
pastel sky
mellow hedge
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i already have some funny memes

thick temple
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just google the first message frosty

mellow hedge
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nuh uh

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BRO 2 whole people dm'd me

thick temple
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fine dm lmao

mellow hedge
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ladies ladies

thick temple
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nvm

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xdd

hallow slate
sleek pelican
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Sent it

granite cairn
mellow hedge
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@pseudo sedge fuck you

hallow slate
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capitalize on the fame make an insta acc

pseudo sedge
granite cairn
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Oh wow

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The veruta

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This day is now even better

mellow hedge
#

I like how I have a sticker in this server and the DoW server

sleek pelican
#

This is the first time no one knew the monster reference before having to give context.

pseudo sedge
#

veruta the government

granite cairn
sleek pelican
mellow hedge
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Ok this one was originally mine then calle put the mask on it

pseudo sedge
junior latch
mellow hedge
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every time i play hel revo im amazed at how much ammo it actually has

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100 max is pretty wild

pastel sky
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Hel revo I can remember

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Exact amount of ammo without equipping it

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Just looking at the %

junior latch
mellow hedge
junior latch
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well it might obviously not rly be me

But me

I talked to tru about it back in the day

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I started seeing it as a rly good weapon before the buff when it was still completely hidden (at the time I started telling how its actually quite good, people still considered it dogshit (cuz it was ages ago and that stuck around)

Then the buff happened

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I obv knew about the buff even earlier so it was… kinda crazy

pastel sky
junior latch
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Ill say that even I underrated it (I had it ~5th to 6th (so below dmr/hel pp) before the buffs

And then I personally had it on fringe S tier, not S+ after

mellow hedge
junior latch
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Its probably the best showcase of the tierlist being a mix of opinions tho and not „just eva forcing his ideas“

cuz I wanted it placed higher but held back as others didnt agree (at the time)

mellow hedge
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yeah i think tru said in that video he thinks high B?

pastel sky
junior latch
rose mason
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the thing about tierlist, is that people are just lazy to test weapons themselves and most of the time they don't even understand the tierlist

short rifle is a good example, if you test that weapon in different scenarious, you would see that this weapon is bad against so many enemies in higher difficulties, so you don't even need a tierlist to see if the weapon is bad or not

that's because I always recommend beginners to test every weapon and see for themselves how it performs

pastel sky
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Yeah ik what you mean

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I used almost all weapons except burst pistol and sniper realistically

vapid solstice
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slug shotgun 🔥

rose mason
# pastel sky I asked short rifle as a joke lol

I don't mean you, you were just an example because I know you tried them all, but many beginners often asked about the meta, but I don't think there is a real meta, every weapon is good in its situation, some weapon weapons can be used in more situations and some less, but having a team with different weapons is better than all playing the same in a lot of missions

pastel sky
rose mason
junior latch
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There is niche that some top tier guns dont fill that other guns do

But theres always gonna be weapons without a niche at all

The full autos for the main weapons, excluding pdw (thermal) and hel pp (pen/stagger)

burst pistol. Even pistol/rifle or burst rifle dont have anytjing niche wise

Carbine doesnt rly either but its a good overall pick

Basically like a third of the main weapons are ever „optimal“ for anything. And thats if you count slug shotgun for flyers

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For specials its a bit more nuanced technically. Theres suuuuper fringe cases like choke mod in R7A1 speeds or whatever. But realistically everything is filled by like… 6 guns tops

junior latch
#

I absolutely recommend beginners to test all guns out to see what they like first

And Im not a big fan of beginners who only ask „whats meta/best overall“

I prefer inquisitive questions like
„Whats best for this enemy“ or „what are good guns to pick when new“ or „ive been picking x and y, what are good alternatives“

pastel sky
rose mason
pastel sky
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I still try to lie to my friends

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That all of the weapons are

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Kinda equal except diff situations

junior latch
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lolol

pastel sky
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So we always change builds on every game

junior latch
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idk

Tell em the truth and still swap around RuruHeh

pastel sky
#

We still play with scatter lowkey just cuz its funny

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And they keep having 100% on it lol

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I still lie to them that it has the worst ammo economy even more than sniper and its enough for them to only use it in like only giants or a zone with bunch of enemies

junior latch
#

#

so you are intentionally making them play worse d4rkevblank

pastel sky
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No I want them to not use the gun at 1 sleeper

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Because that is EXACTLY what I did and just killed our runs

junior latch
#

1 kill scatter = meh
2 kill scatter = good
3+ scatter = insane value (and still easy to get)

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Litteraly using it as waveclear is better than the stupid 10/100 balance

rose mason
#

I had such a super hard time to convince one of my friends to stop using the sniper... because his argument was that it oneshots giants, big shooters and hybrids, but that situation is rarely given, but he still doesn't wanted to give up the sniper, not even for the hel rifle 🥲

vapid solstice
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so what is the tierlist then hmm

vapid solstice
#

like what is the full weapon tier list

hazy fox
#

Hey guys I am planning to buy this game, but I just read in steam review it's needed team of 4 but I don't have any, so is there possibility of making team here in this group?

wraith marsh
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the tier list is Main - sawed off (nothing else exists)
Special - take whatever bro sawed off clears the whole game anyways

hallow slate
vapid solstice
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we kinda just pick what feels nice or works for smth, so curious to see what like the community thinks i guess

hallow slate
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relatively

junior latch
pastel sky
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Hel rifle is still pretty good as it can wave clear and hybrid kill

wraith marsh
#

sniper has a niche

hazy fox
#

Is this game level based or just random quest?

hallow slate
pastel sky
hallow slate
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its not like l4d2

pastel sky
#

You can play a mission twice and mostly the same thing would happen

junior latch
hallow slate
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its a very hardcore game

pastel sky
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Except placements for key items

hazy fox
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I need good teammates then

hallow slate
#

not that difficult to find

rose mason
hallow slate
wraith marsh
pastel sky
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Especially for us when we just zone out of this game

junior latch
# hazy fox I need good teammates then

Eh you start out new (and bad basically) and play with other players who are new or with some experienced people teaching

depending on what you prefer*

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failing is part of the game

pastel sky
junior latch
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among the best yea

pastel sky
hallow slate
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eva do you think (almost) all weapons are usable?

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playing with the same weapon feels stale

junior latch
pastel sky
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If you died in a R rated way and you don't know what you did wrong you won't learn jackshit

junior latch
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It just changes how hard stuff will be to do

hallow slate
pastel sky
#

Except if mission is

hallow slate
pastel sky
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Scitzo difficulty

junior latch
#

even r8e2 has been cleared with the worst possible loadout

pastel sky
#

And gotta get the meta out

junior latch
hallow slate
#

damn

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nicest feeling gun tho

quasi idol
pastel sky
junior latch
hallow slate
#

fair

long pagoda
#

Beat r5d1 wooooo!

junior latch
hallow slate
junior latch
#

yes

hallow slate
#

damn

pastel sky
#

Sniper sounds good for that mission

junior latch
#

cuz 4 sniper is the genuine worst wave clear you can have

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Spear doesnt help either
Neither do 4 bios

pastel sky
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With the amount of charger feelers and boss enemies it seems like it would actually do stuff

junior latch
#

neither do the mains that are ass

pastel sky
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Wave clear yeah would suck

junior latch
#

the other alternative is 4 arbalist mgs

pastel sky
#

But I heard mission gets dominated by

junior latch
#

but those can still bullet spam the bosses

pastel sky
#

Only bosses

junior latch
#

(This was done with 4 short rifles before aswell, altho that had good tools)

hallow slate
#

is there a universally agreed weapon tierlist or

hazy fox
#

What if I made progress with teammates and then they just left, will that story continues?

hallow slate
#

theres 8 rundowns and in each rundown theres different levels

pastel sky
hallow slate
#

if you complete r1a1 for example r1b1 is unlocked for you

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forever

junior latch
# hallow slate is there a universally agreed weapon tierlist or

not fully since even among experienced players singular placements are different

And theres stuff like some people wanting to look at it from only a „hardest level highest skill“ perspective

Sleeper podcast tierlists coupled with rays unique one basically show the veteran opinion tho

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Overall its simply

Sawed off (best), hel revo/hel shotty
Dmr/carbine/hel pp as the top 6 main

pastel sky
#

How bad did bullpup get nerfed

#

I haven't played that weapon in a while

hazy fox
junior latch
#

scatter, hel gun/rifle
burst cannon, combat shotty, shotgun/high cal as the top 7 special

junior latch
#

it was just bad the whole time basically

pastel sky
#

If it alredy shoots fast then its good at wave clearing surely

junior latch
#

💀

pastel sky
#

How much does 1 bullet deal dmg cuz ik hel autopistol is 1.5 and one sleeper is 20

junior latch
#

2.1 iirc

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has 1.0 prec

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Needs 6 shots to kill

hallow slate
#

sniper has the worst scope in the entire game 💔

junior latch
#

nah

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Slug shotty

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idk what that is

pastel sky
#

Nahh worst scope is def sawed off

graceful geode
junior latch
#

But its hard to look at

hallow slate
pastel sky
#

It looks much cooler than the others

hallow slate
junior latch
#

I couldnt hate on bullpup

Cuz the only times I use it now is to troll a bit, hamper myself or never

pastel sky
#

Tell me ever in your life when did you scope with sawed off

junior latch
pastel sky
#

For like actual advantage

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Rather than just spamming m1

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Infront of u

junior latch
pastel sky
hallow slate
junior latch
#

the worst thing is

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When you move the gun and yourself

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its 3 layers of scope

pastel sky
#

Doesn't help that much but its pretty damn cool

hallow slate
#

i don't like it

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can't tell me this is not ass tho

pastel sky
#

Sniper TF2 tunnel vision

graceful geode
#

and then realized they were designing an holographic sight

hallow slate
#

💔

pastel sky
#

They should add holographic sights to DoW lowkey

graceful geode
#

I like the idea but no the execution

hallow slate
graceful geode
#

same for the gun itself

pastel sky
#

Slug shotgun is like

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Prob the most rounded weapon

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It just deals with everything the same

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Sleepers average speed

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Giants average

hallow slate
#

feels out of place for me somehow

pastel sky
#

Hell even chargers

hallow slate
#

idk

mellow hedge
#

slug isnt very good

#

the range makes it bad

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but it is usable for strikers

hallow slate
#

does it oneshot strikers anywhere or am i tweaking

pastel sky
mellow hedge
rose mason
#

slug is also a slow weapon and in higher difficulties we have to be rather fast or kill a ton of enemies fast

pastel sky
mellow hedge
mellow hedge
hallow slate
#

is it possible to solo a giant

pastel sky
hallow slate
#

if i hit it from the back of the head

pastel sky
#

Except it will scream a bit

hallow slate
#

nice

pastel sky
#

Only non soloable giant kill would be with knife really

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Cuz it has no stagger and low range

rose mason
pastel sky
#

You will always get hit unless he is maybe turning around

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Or trying to lick you

pastel sky
#

He meant solo

rose mason
mellow hedge
pastel sky
junior latch
pastel sky
#

After few seconds I was on the floor

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Just saying

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With knife ofc

hallow slate
#

precision bonus got it

rose mason
# pastel sky After few seconds I was on the floor

I can reliable kill giants with a knife without getting hit and waking up the room, the problem I sometimes have is when the giant is doing a 180 teleportion move, thanks 10 Chambers for this broken move

graceful geode
#

Spear requires ZERO setup to solo a giant tbh

pastel sky
#

Once we tried to trio kill him

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1 guy missed

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He instan turned around and halved all our hp

graceful geode
#

Hammer means to know when you hit but it's doable

pastel sky
hallow slate
#

does backstab actually work

graceful geode
#

By setup I mean also knowledge

rose mason
pastel sky
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He turned like instantly

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Cuz ik they kinda wobble to turn around

rose mason
#

I have the mod animation fix but it doesn't really work as I hoped it will

pastel sky
#

Okay

#

Wtf is with this game

#

Having a bunch of bugs

#

And everyone having

#

A bunch of mods to fix specific bugs like

rose mason
pastel sky
#

The bugs surely aren't that fucking obvious to fix surely

hallow slate
#

does hammer have precision bonus

#

?

pastel sky
#

Thank you 10 chambers

pastel sky
#

Spear and knife only

hallow slate
#

aw

rose mason
#

backstab bonus only affects back hits and shots

pastel sky
#

PRECISION shots surely

junior latch
graceful geode
#

Perhaps I used the wrong word but what I mean is that I can reliably solo a giant with spear

pastel sky
#

Mr miyagi lock in bruh

graceful geode
#

with hammer I CAN fuck up sometimes

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usually trading in the room waking up

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and having to use the extra time from the scream

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Not a reason to take spear of course

hallow slate
#

i mean i solod a giant with a spear with like 15 hrs in the game

#

seems easy enough to do

rose mason
pastel sky
#

Spear is pretty decent weapon if the mission isn't full of sleepers but prefers specialised enemies like feelers, giants or chargers

#

But ofc falls apart on swarm enemies like ofc basic sleepers and scitzo demons

graceful geode
junior latch
#

spear is solid if you only stealth

#

but like
thats not when you need the melee to be good

slow bay
#

wouldnt knife be better for stealth kinda?

rose mason
pastel sky
junior latch
#

If you actually slow steath it doesnt matter

rose mason
#

you can't do anything about that

junior latch
pastel sky
#

Its just knife cannot 1 shot a charger so if there is kore than 1 enemy right next to you

#

You have to start walking and maybe wake stuff up

graceful geode
#

Hitboxes etc etc animation etc etc

junior latch
#

knife does 1 hit and a slash

#

thats instant

pastel sky
#

Especially if its another charger that looks at you and not from it's back

junior latch
#

bat has a harder time with chargers

hallow slate
#

sniper is not it

pastel sky
rose mason
pastel sky
#

Never had a chance to double hit

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Without moving

rose mason
pastel sky
#

I tried it and I haven't spammed fast enough or smth

rose mason
#

you don't have to move

junior latch
#

lol

junior latch
rose mason
hallow slate
#

is spear the only weapon with nerfed sprint

junior latch
woeful olive
#

Yes

hallow slate
#

melee*

rose mason
junior latch
pastel sky
#

Lowkey why is your sprint time nerfed with the spear

#

But not with a huge hammer

woeful olive
#

True

junior latch
#

It had no sprint at all when charging before :)

pastel sky
#

I don't get that 1

woeful olive
#

Spears are easy to run with

junior latch
# pastel sky But not with a huge hammer

Cuz hammer existed before and game is balanced around it

so they kept it similar

Spear they thought „oh it might be too good“ so they did that

It then never rly got buffed cuz newbies keep spamming spear

woeful olive
#

Shame

pastel sky
#

I think hammer is a little too good rn

hallow slate
#

does thermal vision even help anyone

pastel sky
#

Idk it jst kills everything stealth

hallow slate
#

or is it just a funny gimmick

pastel sky
#

It will

hallow slate
#

im on r3 btw

pastel sky
#

Just wait till you reach later missions

junior latch
rose mason
graceful geode
#

Game had basically 4 hammers until OG R6

#

entire game was hammer

rose mason
pastel sky
hallow slate
graceful geode
#

Who here remembers bunnyhopping stealth? 😢 I miss that sometimes

junior latch
#

Before you would stagger giants with any hits and could stunlock a mom in melee

pastel sky
pastel sky