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too much server lore i do not have the brain capacity to understand rn
so loafy and dak
How much did you get paid?
this is like listening to my elders recount tales of wars past
Riemann was disgusting towarss frosty too iirc
Like a billion dollars a second
didn’t Sleepy eventually get like, xenophobic or something and that’s why he got banned
Idr the lore
nah fr bro😭😭😭
I dont think he actually got banned
I think he left no?
He left
He left the Deep Rock server for almost the same reason, people hated him
I saw him on helldivers discord like 6 months later and had actual flashbacks
After repeating that all anime watchers deserve to be in hell since his gf appearantly stabbed him over not liking sao
Like I’m not even active there
a riemann excerpt
which, if true
Holy fuck take care
But also wtf
I just flashed in there, saw the pfp, and went back in time
That's discrimination
I am able to live in a 20 story mansion, have 4 water parks, and 3 butlers from my time here in the gtfo mod team
what the actual shit
Send me a cookie or smth when ya got time smh
not sharing the wealth
omfg and the
ya, right?
I was a gtfo mod of course I’m greedy
i forget the name
#gtfo-chat message anyway, if anyone is so inclined to read the entire conversation of goat getting harassed by a creep, here you go, scroll down
AYO WTF😭🙏
i remember it was really fucking bad in the first half
after reading that idk if I want to know tbh
like there was a LOT of shit on this server
fucking triple threat of sleepyboi, reyna, riemann
that shits mental af
this server was mental
Reyna… I’m trying to remember who that name associated to
Ye
I remember the name but I’m trying to remember
It did become chill after a bit
Loaf do you remember who Donna was an alt for
I need a refresher
I remember like, fucking piecing together a detective board basically
I’m trying to Jimmy Neutron brain blast this shit
but idr who it was
feel like im walking over a battleground now
anyways jugger is one of my favorite terms
yeah you’re walking into old lore
cool to hear it had an origin lmao

You joined this server three months ago, i been here three years and I only saw half of it
😭
I been here for 2 years
missed out ig
Yipeeeee
I can say 4 use tool and trigger war flashbacks
shouldve jus been pubbing in here since day 1 rookie mistake
i wish
here just long enough to see samdb get evaporated
WHAT
yeah he got banned
Not a good one
yeah didn’t expect so
Hel shotgun is bad
Nah this genuinely predates me even
but jugger is deadass such a funny term
holy i really did miss a lot
What???
It happened around the time I got the game
You were R5?
I was r4
wait but that was R5
Old ass fuck people
R5A2EX
pitski tool was r4a2
i joined the discord originally in april or so 2021
ohhhh
dak you silly silly person
then left
I dupid
feel like ww1 an ww2 happened in here in the span of 3 years
And rejoined end of r5
True
i only became active in the community during r6
I joined after the Markiplier R6 vids because i finally had a computer that could run it
i got the game, played in static from og r5 ext to r7, then joined discord
became active in like, april
and continued to play in a static
until like i had beaten near enough everything
yeah i remember you joining
No
Yuh
Nuh uh
Like in regards to the community I was a new guy for the time of og r6
i genuinely thought you played more
went from 300 to 1500ish hours
ah
Ok i went from like 0 to 500
It was lockdown
in a year
dude I played during a free weekend like 5 years ago an then forgot it existed XD
2022??
then in r7 I got into contact with wes/kenny/kolohe whom I started speeding with in alt r2
It lasted from early 2020 to mid 2022
you only started speeding in alt R2?????
I went from 200-1100 in like 7 months
i started speeding in og r6
eva was running og r6a1 duo
oh wait makes sense i missed that because in alt R2 i got into modding
malding about keys
ya
Og r6a1 duo with a friend from school
R6A1 quad, r6b1 solo, duo and quad, r6b2 quad, r6ax quad and r6bx quad (oh and r6c3 quad)
We reset for 3 hours not getting a single run btw one day
how
Average key moment
like i understand there’s technically a difference
I ran with gelfchief legender and zander in og r6
But like
thats how I know em
why speedrun that level
why not?
Wanted to figure out how fast you can do it
which we technically were off by 2 seconds actually kek
32 minutes or more is my guess
33:31 is current wr
33:33 at the time
ah
oh ye you missed when we broke that record by not using stam for the whole run until end
ya
wait hmm
were you there when we found the mega out of bounds
I dont recall
probably?
no probably not
Wait really?
letting you main only
Oh yeah that
also dak
Didn’t goat find that
No
What
Early drop + freeze bug + out of bounds = host drops into extract scan
Of fucking course it was her
Soy was playing tetris during the run
Literally
Everytime she played Occy
I’d look away for two seconds and just
pop
Auri suddenly oob
I swear
also we are getting rly close to comp time for any% speeds being below 16 1/2 hours
below 16 is technically doable
just uuh, kinda fucked
uuuh
hide and seek mod is a thing @wicked solstice
(Medal mod also)
mod that has medals for each level from bronze, siver gold to champion
Based on how fast you clear a level (think trackmania)
with hints.
Shows the time of your clears in rundown and menu screen with fitting medal
And has an animation for endscreen
Lowkey fire mod
Oh cool
That’s actually awesome
what are the medal times for r5c3 sec?
any% only
optionals arent there (yet) for 2 reason:
- we dont have precise knowledge on every 100% run and how fast it can be
- Coding that is noteably less easy
game might be peak
spent 1 hour and 20 minutes finding a dna sample after running by it 10 times and then just ran to exfil w/o having to get the sample
wierd
You got the dna sample when you finished the teamscan on the hydrostasis unit
oh
Ya
Bronze: 60:00
silver: 26:00
gold: 18:30
champion: 17:00
im assuming any %s include like glitches an exploits since im used to that being the case or am I wrong?
any% is just completing the level
as opposed to 100%, which includes optional objectives
glitched vs glitchless determines if glitches are used
wow
aaahhh okie cause I think for the games ive done it for any%s were including glitches an wtv jus as long as its completed
any% glitchess vs any% glitched
any% can often just be 1 without distinction
gtfo simply has stuff that just breaks the game so hard that its distinct
aaahhh I see
for ultrakill its way easier to distinguish the 2 since its usually jus prank or any% XD that's what im used to lmfao
tho tbf
in a very minimalistic world we likely just have any/100%
with door bug banned and some other stuff allowed
ye door bug seems way too op
If you wanna check stuff out look at src for gtfo (or get medal mod, its a chill way to get into some runs)
ive thought of it but mechanically I don't believe im good enough for speedrunning yet

id recommend getting medal mod anyway (im obviously biased though)
Since it records your times to keep track
I always mix the 2 XD
ye i keep forgetting to install it ngl
have forgotten like since it came out
id like to track my times cause it'd be neat
need to see how horrendous or decent my times are XD
A GTFO randomizer to increase the challenge of the cooperative horror shooter GTFO
pain
lmao
wait that wasnt the same as the one i saw thats really weird
what I had was reckless without strafing
lmao
why are these times? i thought posted wr is 20 min rn
15:30
is wr
we appearantly just didnt post it to src
I swear i did that but mightve never clicked submit lol
nah hop on bro
duo pe category when
:3
we yes WE need to duo clear r5c1
hell yes
also us government cooking up something devious
guh
as per usual
have you seen the official white house website page
oh it wont be fun by any means
but i think itd be good practice and good bonding
no......
what happened now....
oh they're blaming democrats for a government shutdown
the usual
earlier i think they had up a banner which had the t-slur in it
proud american right here
tru but seems to be more acceptable ig is a way to word it seems to be more prominent
like ot should never be dont get me wrong its jus people are getting away with it way too easily
oh absolutely
its vile
but nobody in our political climate has a spine so its not like theres anything to be done
like couple years ago you'd get what you deserve now its jus like 
unfortunately attacking others that don't have as much power as you do is alot easier than fixing problems...
yeppers
also having a brain is quite difficult for them but thats another story for another time xd
if it were hopeless they wouldn’t keep trying to convince us it was
existence is resistance :3
gonna be a shit period of time but yk
we ball
unfortunately alot of the time ya gotta jus fuck it an ball
yep
pov nightmare baby striker
so true
yk that would be a pretty interesting enemy type
they do?
i believe in the extract sequence of a single r8 level
am i smoking the weed again and forgetting something
but i’ve not touched r8 nor seen anything it entails
yk which one by chance
ghostly probably knows
ive played most of them so
besides c1,d1,e1,e2
now i must go trig hw then gtfo an sleep
okie, good luck :3
could try the duo once i am done if your not busy dodo
is r3c1 still beginner-friendly?
kinda ye
the ending is the only real difficult section imo
so... should i put it in the lfg-beginners...?
uhhh
i mean i see people put requests for e tiers in there so id say go for it
dont sweat that lfg beginners now is just, a gen lfg
oh ok
weno, podei checar #hc-latin-america para un server de gtfo en español- aunque esta algo abandonado segun he escuchado
o si querei buscar gente aqui mismo en este server podei buscar o compartir lobbies en #lfg-latin-america , nomas siguiendo la guia de como postear mensajes de #how-to-matchmake

Good
[[R5C3]]
yummers
Hello frosty
hellooooo
Dak was telling me how much you missed me
ok i wasnt glazing that much
me when i lie
^^
prepare for glazing
You dont have to be afraid to admit it
Okay ill admit it. I have waited for this day for months. Every day my emotions grew stronger. When I saw your message in chat, I felt nothing but pure bliss
@runic anvil are u guys just playing the level cause you like it or are you speeding?
both
team why do i have a usb with gtfo on it??
Secret R9 drop someone stole from the 10C quarters
it was jish's secret usb that i plugged into the pc
the memory stick
Actual best answer would be r8 mono :))
i went onto the steam discussions and im reminded why you shouldn't go onto the steam discussions
is it just tons of bots and rage bait comments?
nowadays its no where near as bad as steam discussions is for most games ngl
average IQ is like 3 max
whenever i open a steam discussion page for a helldivers update, i see that the first 3 pages are users ive blocked
see thats what it used to be like
Average numbers
Steam discussions is so ass
When I open the page for DST its like atleast 5 pages from users that I blocked like
Shouldve known better than going to stream discussion page
доброе утро, хочет кто то составить компанию мне и моему другу?
R5D1 is fun
@gaunt nacelle https://i.timo.beer/cQAxQY68za7Q.png pick one for the next run
Trigger discipline is like just meele only
R1A1 meele only would sound fun
well yeah
you have tools !
Yeah actually c foam mining the only 2 alarms in R1A1 makes this a cake walk
Bring a turret and bio if somethin bad happens and Its lowkey freelo
a turret for what? there is not good position in R1A1 for that
Well what do you replace the turret with when you have everything else really
I guess 2 c foam if you are missing on tool?
there 100% is
but you have to go out of your way to do that, I don't think there is a situation where a cfoam and mine doesn't solve anything in R1A1
maybe a second bio tracker if the other one isn't doing their job
I mean they are supposed to be good
Cfoam sentry 
mine sentry ^^
!!!
throws mines at the enemy
Ah yes my armless teammates who can't hold m1
I am talking only about R1A1 for the achievement
Glowstick sentry
We could do all of these in one session
bet
you can basically do the b-tier without flashlights mission with the biotracker together, so you don't have to be worried about stealth and just shoot them
C tier is unironically the one that would take some time with these 3
A - R1A1 (or whichever you want) in <15 min tops
B - R2B1 or smth (<15 min)
Conclusion:
moth carries
In like 3 hours ngl
Prolly more
Around 4 hours
What would be the best C tier?
I think R1C2 is pretty easy and maybe R2C2 because you just need to run around there
if you want, I can also help
R1C2 is mostly just relying on hel rifle
R2C2 blood doors and alarms plus fog can be taxing
I forgot about that, so R2C2 will be kinda hard without tools then
R1C2 is Storage and R2C2 is Refinery
👍
As said it’s gonna be in like 3-3.5 hours
I know, I gonna have time there as well
Gonna sound real cheeky in asking but is there models for the bullpup and warden door floating around, I am wanting to do a custom render for a loading screen
Cheers in advance
Better check the modding community
👍
Got a link?
Only just got back into GTFO
sent you a dm
Cheers
Also I didn’t realise I had the ambassador role how did I even get that 😮
if you give their your email or something
I think there is an option when you join the discord the first time
Ah come to think about it I think I recall it’s the newsletter thing
but I don't care
I think so too
melee one is super easy, no flashlight can be done with marking all enemies in the mission at the same time and no tool, gonna be a longer mission because R1C2 is a longer mission
so we can do 3 achievements easily
Rev Up that Assetripper
Not even melee only, we just perma foam alarms
Yes
I think I have some of them already
I have all already except the log one and finishing R8 🥲
Log one sucks ass
I got many by redoing missions with pubs :D
Average
what level yall doing?
some achievements
ahh which ones?
@slow bay these ones
@slow bay
id be down for the first 2 if you need a 4th
i think we got a slot yeah
what time?
ok
i love the dna of the soul
smash
hello, if you are looking for a group, I recommend you checking out the #how-to-matchmake channel, create your own voice lobby of 4 and send your invitation link in the #lfg-beginners , so people can see your message and join your fast and easy 👍
@sturdy nest Did you clear R8E2?
@gaunt nacelle eta?
Like 20 mins
@rose mason @slow bay ^^
idm
me either
I think we're only doing it for me so just a > b > c ig
aight
I think I need some of them
I would be ready now if you guys are
eu here
no i meant are you here lol
where you joinin from?
yeah ready whenever
for me it is better not to be the host
so I join whoever mades the lobby
well that leaves kyoso or moth
moth is eu too
cause i doubt everyone wants to join australian ping
god damn, 1000+ fps in rundown select
nasa pc
I am also EU, so perfect
one of the top 5 gpus in the world so...
ill host
Team ima be on in 5
not downloading cyberpunk this time so should be good
don't worry, take your time
@sharp owl what is your count at?
whats the fastest time youve got?
@vapid solstice
actually not too far off of mine
mines at 5:42 atm
which bot do you hate teh most?
i fuckin hate dauda
keeps walking through walls
been 6 smh
7 now
Sorry my mum is throwing
mum throwing the r8e2 run
Frfr
what do you mean by that
mum is holding him back from joining us
forced to build more ikea furniture
@sharp owl get medal mod (it will show your fastest clear ever (you can retroactively edit your current fastest in)
🤔
slower than my solo + bots time
fake solo
never seen this happen before
beat this lil vro
r1a1 still manages to surprise me
team whats spawncap?
25
😔
?
told you lol
he thought it was 24 and we were arguing about it
im just a pub
what is bio tracker limit? 20 right?
no idea :3
i dknt think it has a limit
lwk didn’t know there was a limit
bio just pings as long as they are in range
also hai slendi :333333
i wanna believe bio is like 20 ye
yeah we just had at LEAST 30 enemeis and there were definitely not 30 pings
damn
You just couldn't see the pings trust
@runic anvil moth feet for you
she got IRL feet pics
yummers
Stupid got hacked
<@&408548765599793173>
smh
Man, they were a member since 2019
im still waiting on them actually
its gonna look like those crusty barnacles on rusty rotten ships
yep
but of course
hmmm i wonder what we are doing
u wouldn't get it
r1b1
kissing
me when giant esex
get me in that level 🗣️ 🔥
true
big shooters 🤤
yay
wish there was a 5th hsu, id join you down there
we shall get you the achievements
there is actually a mod that allows up to 8 people
more people to goon w in the complex :3
@rose mason You guys kissing the sleepers? 👀
eachother
even better
why not both
scouts are kissing me
lucky
frfr
should i scattergun moth
yes
yes
you have permission to give him backshots

you’re welcome to join
wait can I get in on this deal??
giving moth backshots or getting backshots?
maybe both...
@runic anvil jealous?
💞
i could do that to you
🥺
what did you do to that no. 5
that is where my thumb sits
ribbit cant count
never trust @rotund condor he'll stand in a corner and watch you die
this is not mouse 4 you dingus
yummers
rite mb its the fourth mouse
average
my mouse actually doesnt have amouse 4 button
those side buttons are actually just the numpad
during r4e1 aswell
which level we doing
guess
he got a little scared
@tacit shoal killed me mid reactor
r4e1?
r5b1 5th wave
r1c2 no tools achievement
its either 4 or 6
these chargers gonna get FUCKED UP
its the i really hate charger loadout
This is Mouse 4
the i really love charger is like uhhh bp sr
shotgun sentry -> ??
double bio is also a bit of a ? since the levels where its a blank good choice arent charger spam 
its no tool achievement
no tool achievement
who is this PUB
no tools achievement
so tools dont matter
eva pub smh
ah, (remember to not ping then tho)
love my paddle mouse button (i will use it once and forget it exists for 15 months)
wut
I've those binded to quickshove
I am going to slap you
hårdare pappa
i binded it to noclipping in CConsole for making mods in GTFO
Yuh. Pretty affordable nowadays
Does it feel comfortable?
they are really comfy
I've kinda beeg hands
i’ve got big hands too
Mice
meese
Yeah Better than G502
For the animal it's mice I've no idea if it changes for the object
but yeah i have pretty big hands, basilisks feel great
It doesn’t iirc
man remember when you had to take the ball out of the mouse and clean it?
Everything is better than the g502
I remember when you had to put in different floppies to play games
i am not that old
i cant stind light miuce
I used to play a game called Walker
trying to think what my first game was
I have a g502 and I miss my kain 100 every time I click
probably super space pinball on a 2002 Gateway
this is fun
ez clear with scattergun sentry
I did this solo seedless and boosterless btw @mellow hedge
i expect to see a video on this next week
first class X alarm, but was pretty easy
Class X the name itself seems a lil funny
you get the implication though right
which roman numeral x is
Ohhhh
I thought it was like
A new mechanic thing
Its 10 class I see
mhm
class tens are interesting
i like the class 10 diminished cluster sustain alarm personally
That is not a real thing
not because its super fun but because the name is so extra
Jst fuckin 5 modifiers on top and call it a day
This gonna be KDS deep alarm
not even LMAO
I wonder how bad KDS deep is compared to the thing
Like right behind it which is R4E1
techninally its a class 10 mixed, just all of them are sustain
couldn’t tell you
oh right
In lists its forward but like what could be worse than perma tank spawns
for 14? total sustain scans
i think a lot of things stev
r4e1 beginning is pretty straightforward, the tanks are meant to make sure you dont dilly dally
its not even perma
I mean don't you alredy dilly dally on every mission to yk find where you are supposed to go
from what i’ve heard r5e1 is pretty brutal;
the humble cell skip:
you’re not really allowed to if there’s the risk of extra tanks behind you
depends if cell skip or not
r5e1 touches u up every cavity... especially the nose
So it is one of those
Shit levels
when are we duoing cs @runic anvil
just like BBCs do to you
That you alr know off
not shit
r4e1 is really fun
But you don't know everything else
first half r4e1 is fun
Okay good question are there any alarms in this mission
Cuz like if a tank jst so
Happily appears in middle of an alarm
like 3?
It wouldn't be so nice
4?
Wtf okay interesting game design
fake r4e1 enjoyer
i have played it once :3
Ion even hate him for not liking scitzo levels
ruh roh
Wait so you can turn it off right
yeppers
But like how fast can you do that so that like 15 tanks don't spawn during your run
i think on my clear we had to kill 3-4 tanks
it's a tank every 4 minutes homie
during error
Unless 2 alarms are like class 2-4 or sum
That aint so bad actually
Wait you said you played it once and cleared
mhm
Nahh no way you didn't get carried
oh i did
crazy accusation
but it was fun
Was it me
mhm!
she duod with frostteryy
Dodo when do we get the duo clear
uhhh
no way she duod with frothers
Can you stop calling me frogsters
whenever you’re so inclined to play with my incompetent ass
okay frost
Lowkey E tiers doing like duo with no bots feels like you need thousands of hours first to even challenge that
nah i’d win
Learn to kill tanks well with scatter and also solo code hunt and I will carry ur skinny ass to victory
nah we do r5e1 cs duos first
Actually it would probably be easier to carry e2 duo
not gonna happen anytime soon
that level comes last
Crazyy
and i intend to play it last
Where are you at
How would E2 be easier to duo lowkey
i’ve got d1 and e1 in r5 to wrap up
then i’ll be doing everything in order from then on out
even R6A1?
imma replay it and get the experience
speed running makes you lose out on details and such
i need a clear
If want help btw doodoo lemme know
okie
twink works lmao
whats our r5e1 pub group
difference between dilly dallying and checking out the area
dodo / me / frosty / moth?
that’d be pretty goated
I meaaannn if you hopped on a mission with 0 knowledge of its suprises and mechanics
of course youll be just looking around
and seeing what will try to murk you
dilly dally is just hanging about without intent
maybe a reactor maybe invisible black dudes or the 10 foot tall giant
first clear ill likely play pretty straight forward with res, better be aggressive and get far than slow and die later anyway
while checking every room
we are too geeked out for playing aggressive on bare new missions lol
only mission we just go 100% aggro mode is perma alarm missions where we dont hop off the shift button
what channel should i watch to cure jumpscare stress 😂
smth like R8B4? yea nah, get as far in as you can
jumpscare stress?
I still dont like this mission btw lol
R2C2 is solid
zone 116 makes it drag for a bit which stops it from being genuinely good tho
but if you roll the rng for without it then its a good, fun and fast lvl
yeah that shi was the problem
most of our runs were unlucky lowkey
eeeh
requiring 116 and 119 or 118 and 119
you do all the zones anyway tbh
118 and 119 is good...
yeah but takes time
you need to go into 3 zones minimum and 4 have IDs...
too annoying
nah, if I dont need 116 I dont go there
fuck that
Everything which doesn’t take 5 mins in his opinion is too long
He hasn’t seen R5 yet
Remember
getting a cell, plugging it
teamscan for a blood door
and then the biggest zone to hunt ids in with term at the end in fog
I can clear the level in the time it takes to do all that...
whats the level with the error surge on a timer
I love how
the game gets worse and worse by design the further you go in
except prob R8
nah r5 is just special like that
hey now R5 has some bangers
also true
R6 is a banger
r6d3?
R6 does look
moth when R6C3 PE I still need a clear
I’m going to bed
moth when R6C3 PE I still need a clear
When dodo and i link up
dont you like work in the wiki and you dont have all cleared damn
I have seen every single level all sectors but it doesnt mean ive cleared it
Go back to losing on R4D1 second code
R6C3 PE is misery incarnate with bots
go back to loosing R1C1 timmy tough knuckles
yes thank you
Already solod it, u should solo it tho
and you struggled with bots btw💔
R6C3 is actually the last thing I need from R6
Play it when dodo gets there
8 tries to clear R1C1 btw
Ez
"lemme guide you"
Like 4 clears to solo R1C1 btw
Pub ass
LMAO
Bro really said få
yeah 10% at the same level of skill as you btw
both of us are pub so
Uh huh yea sure buddy
sucks to suck timmy
There’s diff levels to pubs
Beat e2 solo then talk to me
now THEN you leave the pub tier surely
stev you should send me some clips of your gameplay
No you leave when you duo r4e1
You believed bots could trigger rooms after we told you 10 times they couldn’t
Also where’s ur name on the src PUB
Me but swap gameplay with feet
losing pub status soon :3
thats a fact check while you cant hit 1 sleeper with a hel rifle mag right infront of you dog
would this help with r4e1 duos
just take the veruta and call it a day bruh
Still solod R1C1, you haven’t though
Correct.
stev doesn't need to prove himself with silly benchmarks
@sharp condor fuck you btw
So true
mango
do you want them all muddy and shit?
Guys sometimes I don’t make sure my chicken is fully cooked should I be worried
like dipped in dirt
i have a few clips here and there
Nah
Just like sado likes them
yes
but it;s mainly me chasing luci with an ammo pack cause he's a dog
heard
rip fksado
me and luci are only ones who take it seriously
while tsm and holo are geekd out 24/7
lowkey
huzzah!
wtf does the mango mean btw
i would like to have a say before I get blamed for not taking the game srsly
Sado is still hitting me up in DMs
anyway frosty you can expect a video in 3-5 business days
bro is probably saying the most degen shit ever
drop the clip
how many fucking clips you got
Exactly
this is fire mango certified
1
should i be trying to compete
then drop it dog
Sado is special
nvm i only have 2 clips
damn 😔
We are goon brothers
We do bnha role play in vc
dog
not of lucy ammo pack hoarding bruh
listen
for once
holo is trying to count currently
FUCK i need to pick up my game
then say so bruh
what other 2 clips ya got
these 2
I can help you practice
yes please
I’ll be deku
one of you shooting a lock after sayin " WE NEED TO SAVE AMMO"
of course you will
like 4 fucking shots btw*
lemme look thru the clips and find something
See you aren’t even committing
drop it
Pub status
kms
i actually know nothing about bnha
Actually a good show
I need to watch s7 still
Medals mod records ur gameplay? GOATED
noted
The fandom is WILD
I can see the catch for 5d2 now
These pubs don’t know
banger level
no mic audio either

