gtfo-chat

[gaunt nacelle]

I’m gonna call in like frosty and WR tie it with mire and dodo

:3

[slow bay]

nah, get wr but 0.01s faster surely

[mystic moss]

we got the first place clear with a random pub 💀

[runic anvil]

goated lmao

[slow bay]

OH THATS YOU

[runic anvil]

😭 😭 😭

[gaunt nacelle]

😭😭😭😭

Vozy got promoted to top 3 speedrunner in my ranks

Imagine randomly pubbing R5B4 and getting wr

[mystic moss]

yeah too bad the pub didn't have a speedrun account

[slow bay]

skill issue on their parts

[runic anvil]

damn 😔

[mystic moss]

i don't think we told him either

[runic anvil]

😭

[gaunt nacelle]

Average @pastel sky Moment

[pastel sky]

Holy wtf is that alarm sound

Its kinda like that

R3C1 moment when you enter zone where its only chargers

1st time I heard that with 3 more people we all just went fucking silent and just insta crouched

[gaunt nacelle]

It’s me when I get woken up by my mum

[slow bay]

"why that charger pink tho"

[gaunt nacelle]

”Why bubblegum on the wall”

Top 2 questions science still can’t answer

[honest parrot]

scatter the bubblegum

Realize it's a stage prop

cry

[gaunt nacelle]

🔥

I wanna chew it

[tulip matrix]

[pastel sky]

Bro

[slow bay]

me and my friend unloaded an ENTIRE burst cannon trying to get it to pop

[pastel sky]

R4B1

We entered like last code room

I say "mother" cuz of the wall props

My friend instantly fucking jumps off the ladder on top of the mother and insta wakes her up

And I lit

Jump with him

[gaunt nacelle]

Oh this guy hasn’t seen anything yet

[pastel sky]

And just scatter and hel shotgun her

Like why would you ever stealth 1 room

With 1 terminal

When you can just fucking blast everything

I guess

[slow bay]

i had a mother in a spot once where if you went to the top of the ladder, you would touch and wake

[gaunt nacelle]

Surely R4D1 isn’t worse surely

[slow bay]

man i love r4d1

[gaunt nacelle]

Average

[slow bay]

best reactor

[gaunt nacelle]

Just stealth tbh

[gaunt nacelle]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[runic anvil]

real

[pastel sky]

R4D1 and R4E1 are reactors aren't they

[gaunt nacelle]

Anyways team can I mald in someone’s DMs for a bit?

[slow bay]

final code room tho is kinda scuff

[pastel sky]

Thats crazy

[runic anvil]

e1 no

[slow bay]

r4d1 yes

r4e1 secondary is reactor

[runic anvil]

not technically :3

[gaunt nacelle]

E1 sec reactor

[runic anvil]

ik im just being misinformative to stev :3

[gaunt nacelle]

:3

[slow bay]

me when misinformation

[gaunt nacelle]

Full support

[pastel sky]

How tf will E tier reactors look like I wonder

[runic anvil]

oh ho ho

[slow bay]

pain

[pastel sky]

Spawning in a mother in a wave or sum hell

Probably

[runic anvil]

amazing

[gaunt nacelle]

Btw sec is not counted in its tier

Only main

[runic anvil]

i love e1 reactor

[gaunt nacelle]

R4E1 main only is like not that deep tho

[slow bay]

there are only 3 e tier reactors

[gaunt nacelle]

R8E1 has one?

[pastel sky]

Only

[pseudo sedge]

gtfo funny: 3/6 E tiers are reactors

[slow bay]

but then you dont see the 4 mothers :(

[slow bay]

r8e2

secondary, but required

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea I meant it’s like not that hard

[gaunt nacelle]

Knew E2 had one

[slow bay]

r4e1 sec, r7e1, r8e2 sec

[gaunt nacelle]

But there’s none in R2E1 and R5E1?

[runic anvil]

also yes

[gaunt nacelle]

Oh right

[pure belfry]

what if you got near/shot it and a baby striker popped out angry

[gaunt nacelle]

R7E1

Like that reactor too

Specially Brazil skip

[runic anvil]

goated game design lwk

[gaunt nacelle]

You’ve already gotten that mald

[runic anvil]

oh okie

[slow bay]

about?

[gaunt nacelle]

My work being shitty 😔

[split marlin]

we need e tier uplink fr

[pseudo sedge]

i'd ladderfoam it

[split marlin]

😔

[gaunt nacelle]

BBC lover btw

[slow bay]

course you would tgb

[split marlin]

e tier timed sequence would be cool tho

i just really like timed sequence i guess

cool ass mechanics, used twice

[pure belfry]

R7C3 OVL moment

[runic anvil]

surely

[mystic moss]

reactors are an e-tier objective

rEactors

[slow bay]

reActors

[runic anvil]

like an aggressively fast door opening sequence

[pseudo sedge]

reactorS

[runic anvil]

very dangerous rooms where you’re forced to push fast

[graceful geode]

"reactors" can be anagrammed to "tacos err"

[runic anvil]

and on each subsequent door opening it starts like an error surge that you have to rush to the next zone to disable

[slow bay]

ah yes i love taco error alarms

[mystic moss]

mfw no e-tier warden protocol

[runic anvil]

i think a well designed one could be so heat

[mystic moss]

omg u should play deadline in samdown

[split marlin]

r8e1

[graceful geode]

VENTILATION_OVERRIDE at start of R6C3

[mystic moss]

TRUE

[slow bay]

indeed

[split marlin]

[slow bay]

tbh i liked r8e1

[mystic moss]

IF IT DIDNT SUCK ASS

[runic anvil]

i’ll take your word for it

[graceful geode]

eh I mean I'm pretty sure you're fucked in 99% fog there

[split marlin]

i like warden protocol cause i duo it

[graceful geode]

I dislike warden protocol because it's weird

[pastel sky]

My friend is rn trying to fully solo R1

[graceful geode]

What I wanted it to be like was like the small-rushes at R6C1's beginning

[mystic moss]

did u beat r2e1 duo

[split marlin]

r6c3 forcing me to go fast is pretty fun

[pastel sky]

Like no bots

[split marlin]

not yet

[pastel sky]

Like he is NOT making it out alive loll

[mystic moss]

damn I'm stumped

[split marlin]

im doing some more lvls before touching r2e1

r2d1 got me hating on r2

[runic anvil]

call me e1

[split marlin]

[runic anvil]

sorry

🥺

[split marlin]

its alright

i know you cant help it

[slow bay]

why does everyone always struggle with r2d1???

i find that level easy af

did it first try with bots

[pure belfry]

it's a buggy level

[slow bay]

after about 40 hours of playing

[split marlin]

its long and boring and only really hard at the extract

and also spitterbug fucking everything up

[graceful geode]

spitterbug's a valid concern but gluefix made it disappear for me

But long it simply aint

I usually do runs with bots there at around 50min-60min

[split marlin]

i was bad back then and didnt know the tile

[graceful geode]

Which ultimately is what most maps in this game take save for some really easy or really specific ones

[runic anvil]

that’s a big contributor methinks

[split marlin]

yeah

not knowing the tile is messed up

[runic anvil]

walking around in fog when you don’t know the layout is ass

[split marlin]

make fog dive way harder

[pastel sky]

Same buddy

[graceful geode]

I get that some maps look LONGER than they actually are, like R5D2 looks aeons long but it's like 1h and something territory

[pastel sky]

With 0 map knowledge this mission sucks completely

[runic anvil]

i will say that r2d1 was the first intimidating level i experienced as a new player

[graceful geode]

It's also who you run with... I've a clear of R7B3 PE of like 35 minutes

[runic anvil]

everything else up till then wasn’t easy by any means but not on that level of difficulty

[split marlin]

my bottleneck as a new player was r1b2 -> r1c2 -> r2c2/r2d1

[slow bay]

i never even looked at the wiki until r3d1, so i actually didnt know anything about any of the prior levels before dropping in

[split marlin]

and r1c2 was only because we insist on bringing cfoam and mine

changed into sentries and its first try'ed

[slow bay]

for me, it was r1c1 as a roadblock, then r2d2

[mystic moss]

not getting hardstuck on r1c1 is crazy

[graceful geode]

Did you both start the game at like R8 release?

[pastel sky]

Same for me except R1B2 and R1C2 get replaced by R1C1

[graceful geode]

I mean Ribbit and snek

[split marlin]

we first try that shit

it was EASY

[pastel sky]

Its not the mission I spent most time on but def most resets

[slow bay]

yeah roughly

probably about 2 months after

[mystic moss]

what was your hardstuck level cause you're a grandpa in gtfo now

[slow bay]

r4c3 and r7d2

[graceful geode]

For context I started playing on OG R4 release... ehhhh let me think a bit.

[slow bay]

and r8b4 secondary

[split marlin]

i started playing like 6 months ago

i know about the game since that one time markiplier played it

[pastel sky]

Wtf

I also watched like

Three mark videos

And I was like

This seems fun

[graceful geode]

I think I remember doing all of R4 A and Bs and getting stuck at R4C3 PE dying at extraction like 3 times, never finished R4E1 because I unlocked it and was like "yeah nah I'll never finish this shit in like a week".

So I guess R4C3 PE was my hardstuck?

[slow bay]

r4c3 was probably my biggest roadblock, but man i love that level

[graceful geode]

I had to do R4A2 PE by soloing (no bots back then) everything until error then let people join

[pastel sky]

I forgot Rundowns had fucking timers

[graceful geode]

Because it made searching for people faster

[mystic moss]

damn

[pastel sky]

I wonder what is inside of it

[mystic moss]

i was hardstuck in og r4b1

[graceful geode]

R5 I didnt even get to finish any Ds

[slow bay]

a bit of REDACTED, some REDACTED, and then overload is REDACTED

[mystic moss]

and then I literally didn't play anything higher than b-tiers for 100 hours cause I thought I wasn't good enough

[pastel sky]

Scattergun fixed all of our problems

[graceful geode]

when you get to that level an advice: do main only runs until you know that part very well

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

Even C tiers are getting bad now

[slow bay]

keep in mind, you dont HAVE to beat EVERYTHING

[graceful geode]

which didnt exist back then

[mystic moss]

the weapon roster for og r4 pre-extension was pretty bad

[pastel sky]

That is true

I do wanna clear this game one day tbh

I should prob start playing like lore missions to get into it prob

[graceful geode]

In general the feel I had was that, barring R4's Burst cancel cannon and R6's pre-nerf Sniper the weapons were much worse

[pastel sky]

And up until now some weapons are still dogshit

[slow bay]

part of the reason i had road blocks when playing, is because we forced ourselves to do everything in order, and PE only

[pastel sky]

I mean ppl told me

DO PE

Bcux then the mission is

Not walking into a straight line

For 30 minutes

[slow bay]

typically yeah

there are a lot of missions where main only is boring af

[pastel sky]

R4B1

[split marlin]

PE or busted

[pastel sky]

We did

[split marlin]

thats the mindset

[pastel sky]

Main in 20 minutes

And the reactor like

50 to add on

[slow bay]

i actually dont know which levels are boring main only, because ive only ever done pe only lmao

[pastel sky]

Do PE or you are a pussy basic mindset yk

[pastel sky]

No pussy gaming I see

[runic anvil]

exactly

[graceful geode]

R4B2 and R4B3 are critically boring and so is R5C2 main only

[runic anvil]

you get it

[split marlin]

there are a few lvls i did main only just to know the route for PE error sequence

[mystic moss]

idk skipping the PEs doesn't really do much for skill progging

[split marlin]

but otherwise its all PE bby

[pastel sky]

I mostly wanna do PE in levels that are too like

Freelo

[graceful geode]

R4B2 because no error, R4B3 because it become R2C1 without shadows, and R5C2 because there's literally nothing to do

[pastel sky]

And just fully ignore side objects for

Scitzo inducing missions

[runic anvil]

r5d1 main only to get log

[pastel sky]

Also why tf does R8E2 have a secondary like

[split marlin]

yeah

[hasty bobcat]

why not

[runic anvil]

because it’s goated

[split marlin]

it should have OVERLOAD too

[graceful geode]

IIRC, game engine limitations needed the reactor to be another objective

[split marlin]

first e tier PE

[graceful geode]

But maybe I'm wrong

[runic anvil]

exactly

[split marlin]

r6d1

[slow bay]

its a fake secondary

i guess to bait people into trying main only, only to realise they have to do sec

[pastel sky]

Wait wtf

[graceful geode]

guess I'm wrong then

[pastel sky]

You are forced to do it?

[slow bay]

unless you do an out of bounds skip yeah

[pastel sky]

That sounds like torture lowkey lol

[pastel sky]

Once D4RK showed like his clears and he did have more main clears than secondaries

[split marlin]

10c just like to troll ppl

[pastel sky]

Idk how tf he did unless he just bugged out

[split marlin]

like that r4a2 mission comm

leave overload for last fr

[runic anvil]

why did they think that was a good idea lmao

[slow bay]

1. ANY mission clear counts as main
2. he typically speedruns main only

[runic anvil]

was it just a dumb move or them being deliberate assholes lol

[pastel sky]

I meant on E2

[split marlin]

glitched run can skip over sec

thats how

[slow bay]

yeah

[pastel sky]

Is E2 only level that lit just fucking forces you to do side missions

[slow bay]

EVA HAS BEEN SUMMONED

[junior latch]

og r4 hel revo, pre nerf hel gun
sentries were also actually stronger (burst during r6 especially and sniper during r7 to like alt r2? not sure exactly)

[slow bay]

yes

[graceful geode]

ah right pre nerf hel gun too

[split marlin]

automatic hel gun

🔥

[mystic moss]

playing 0.1 hel gun feels wrong now

[junior latch]

but tbf most guns aside from sawed off and scattergun dont rly eclipse the balance we typically had

[upper idol]

I miss burst canceling

it was a cool unique skill for this game

[mystic moss]

i burst canceled your mom

[upper idol]

my mpm?

[mystic moss]

npn junction

[pure belfry]

now correct me if im wrong but was this not also a macro-optimizable technique

[pine root]

I can’t burst cancel your mom I don’t cheat

But you reload canceled my dad last night

Can’t forgive you for that

[mystic moss]

yeah but I dropped a mag into the void and now my cfoam isn't colliding anymore

[pine root]

This is worse than my fortnite duo double pumping my brothers

[pastel sky]

Tf am I reading

[mystic moss]

do you want to join our creative writing session

today's theme is innuendos

[pine root]

Sorry we can’t transfer to a conversation you might have a better time understanding

Wow hel shotgun is pretty good

If only slug was like it

[burnt flume]

hel shotgun discussion

it's been too long, bring it back

[mystic moss]

how do I use hel shotty

[burnt flume]

point and click adventure!

[mystic moss]

my pellets go all over the place

it's such a mess...

[pastel sky]

We used it on R4B1 on the reactor, clumped all enemies with c foam and just start melting

[pine root]

Is you get low to the ground it gives your less spread

[mystic moss]

thank you momtamer

[burnt flume]

how does it spread less on the ground

[pine root]

Well according to physics one

We can calculate the spread vs the projectile distance

[near stag]

My Pocket watch broke

[burnt flume]

did you play more than 3 cards in your turn

[gaunt nacelle]

Did you press pause one too many times?

[near stag]

Remember the time you coomed after Just one Femboy Touch?

It was me moth

[gaunt nacelle]

So every time?

[near stag]

I have stopped the time Just to jerk you Off at superspeeds

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-b-u-h-cat-silly-кот-gif-2242355352608793340

[vapid solstice]

damn we have femboys in gtfo?

[pastel sky]

The most hardcore game btw

[burnt flume]

what is the appeal of femboys

too scared of being straight?

OOOooooooOOOOoooO heterosexual privilege OOoooOOOOooOooo

[pastel sky]

Nouhhh I am perishing man

I genuinely don't gaf about ppl on the discord they can be whatever the hell they are

I still personally have taste in women

[pure belfry]

you have a taste of surge alarm

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-reaction-try-not-to-laugh-bruh-speed-gif-15909423665204532371

[burnt flume]

25 striker

(it is not 25 iirc)

god who was it who tried to tell me that og r2e1 spawned more enemies in surge alarms

[mint dawn]

It’s called kiting like crazy

[gaunt nacelle]

Wdym it did

[pure belfry]

what do during extreme alarm

[mint dawn]

Which ones?

[vapid solstice]

[mint dawn]

I don’t think a lot of the alarms are extreme except for like Mabey 2

[burnt flume]

kite every alarm

no-one can stop you

how else are people expected to solo r1a1

[mint dawn]

I mean I dunno which alarm he’s talking about

R4D2’s?

R8B4’s?

Most people have trouble with that alarm

[vapid solstice]

was R4D2 the like tier 8 charger alarm with rising infectious fog

[mint dawn]

That’s not the bad part

It’s getting the case

To the end

[gaunt nacelle]

The bad part is having pubs pick the case up

[mint dawn]

Yes

[gaunt nacelle]

When like

You haven’t even done main scan

[shut vapor]

Hell o

[vapid solstice]

If i remember it was like 10 shadows every 30 seconds? or 3 every 10 seconds

[gaunt nacelle]

Heaven I

[mint dawn]

10 every few seconds

I believe

[vapid solstice]

yeah we took a while to beat it

[mint dawn]

You just get fucked by rng if they spawn in front of you

[vapid solstice]

yup

[pastel sky]

Fair and balanced

[mint dawn]

Nothing you can really do

[gaunt nacelle]

Shadows are super kiteable

And like

[mint dawn]

Not with that case though

[gaunt nacelle]

Lowkey doesn’t matter cuz u hold W

[mint dawn]

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea but like ain’t that bad surely

[mint dawn]

Most people just die

[pastel sky]

10 every few seconds tho

They move so slow

[mint dawn]

I’m considering as a new person

[gaunt nacelle]

True

[pastel sky]

They will like star clumping up you just cannot fight it

[vapid solstice]

what about r5c3 with the 15 chargers that respawn every few seconds

[gaunt nacelle]

But I don’t consider R4D2 new playerable

[mint dawn]

Bc I’m assuming there not fast enough to get to the whole mission in time before the fog gets really bad

[vapid solstice]

also want the rng to spawn behind

[gaunt nacelle]

Stuck at C3

[mint dawn]

And everyone is basically at 15 hp

[gaunt nacelle]

This guy hasn’t heard about sawed off spam

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea fair ig

[mint dawn]

Scatter gun

[gaunt nacelle]

Or that

[mint dawn]

Or hel gun

I love hel gun

[gaunt nacelle]

Or any hel weapon

Or mouse button 1

[mint dawn]

I dunno about hel revolver

[vapid solstice]

love the hell revolver

[gaunt nacelle]

Or knife

[gaunt nacelle]

You could prolly pop off if ur good enough

[mint dawn]

True

[pastel sky]

And then you hear pressing a weapon with 0%

[vapid solstice]

we used to go for the fog turbine hut then you just cant defend the waves

[vapid solstice]

bat giga fun

[gaunt nacelle]

You get so much ammo surely

[mint dawn]

It’s a bait to get it

[gaunt nacelle]

Surely we weren’t at 0% by extract

Amirite @pure belfry

[mint dawn]

An absolute bait

[vapid solstice]

yeah in the run we cleared it we didnt go for it cuz it took so long

[pastel sky]

I did see like R4D2 run

You like lit open overload get to cargo

And just never pick it up

[mint dawn]

If you want to do the cargo part easily I guess that but

[gaunt nacelle]

Yep

[pastel sky]

And just finish everything else and then you pick it up

[gaunt nacelle]

Yep

[pastel sky]

So that prisoner efficiency doenst fuckin become impossible

[mint dawn]

The two people would really have to carry with killing all of the shadows that spawn in front

[pastel sky]

And also yes I saw shadow scouts like just tendrils coming out of the shadows is like

Nightmare fuel

[gaunt nacelle]

Lowkey when I played it recently we had enough foam to literally foam like 5 doors and never see a shadow

[mint dawn]

Run up towards them

And melee

[gaunt nacelle]

He uses spear

[mint dawn]

They have like the body of a giant kind of

[pastel sky]

I don't

[vapid solstice]

yeah and someone needs to perma ping with bio tracker so its really a one man army

[pastel sky]

My teammates do

[gaunt nacelle]

:3

[pastel sky]

I use mostly hammer

Cuz its most consistent

[vapid solstice]

• medi the people that are low cuz infection

[mint dawn]

Hence why just finish the mission in like 20 mins

Bc it’s just better to rush it

It’s like the mission where you do a class 5,6,7,8

Then a tank

[vapid solstice]

it honestly was quite the challenge and a fun level

[pure belfry]

R8B4 is not an Extreme Alarm, it's a rapidly scaling error admittedly with somewhat similar numbers, the one I refer to is R8B3

[gaunt nacelle]

Its not that bad

[mint dawn]

People die to the second scan room before they ever reach that point

[gaunt nacelle]

I meant like fun wise

[mint dawn]

Oh it’s fun

[vapid solstice]

cfoam and mines carry main though

[mint dawn]

I like the mother alarm

[vapid solstice]

uh oh

[mint dawn]

Where she just comes in after the scans

[near stag]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

surely it was not moth that picked it up

[pastel sky]

I have to stop reading

[vapid solstice]

oh you mean like r5c2

mother after both sec and overload

[gaunt nacelle]

The one that spawns 5 moms? Yea I do too

[mint dawn]

Uhh

[mint dawn]

[vapid solstice]

room scan with snatchers and tanks + mother at the end

[gaunt nacelle]

Team i thought we were talking about R4D2

[fossil horizon]

I thought you will talk about emperors with kings alarm

[vapid solstice]

and reactor with tank + mother in the final wave

[vapid solstice]

we were

[mint dawn]

I mean I like a lot of alarms bc there really fun

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea the mother alarm in R4D2

[mint dawn]

Uh huh

[near stag]

Snatcher surge in R7D1 is more fun

[vapid solstice]

uh

[mint dawn]

It’s not a surge

[vapid solstice]

was there one

[mint dawn]

It only spawns 19

[gaunt nacelle]

Uhm acthually it’s not an error 🤓👆

[mint dawn]

And if you die after checkpoint it just dies

[gaunt nacelle]

Yes

[mint dawn]

Error alarm gone

[gaunt nacelle]

Spawns 5 moms

[mint dawn]

Which is sad

I mean if you wanted to fight 5 moms you could practice with r5e1 or r4e1

With the 2, and 4

[gaunt nacelle]

R4E1 tank solo practice 🔥

[pure belfry]

if you have awful ping, and issue that command as client, I have been told it still does it

[mint dawn]

That would be good practice

[gaunt nacelle]

:3

[mint dawn]

It can help with doing cell skip

[gaunt nacelle]

I did practice dooring tanks in R4E1

Like solo door

[mint dawn]

Yh

[mint dawn]

How much dmg would the hel shotgun do if I had all dmg boosters for it

Would it do as much dmg as a gel revolver

[gaunt nacelle]

Idk either 1% more or 1 billion% more

Boosters are very balanced btw

[mint dawn]

Yh 57% base hp

[gaunt nacelle]

Gel revo defo, hel revo idk

[mint dawn]

[gaunt nacelle]

I’ve never seriously ran boosters

[mint dawn]

Not glow stick power?

[gaunt nacelle]

Too op

[mint dawn]

You can run dmr with 1 dmg boosters to one shot enemies

Which is a lot of fun if you hit your shots

[gaunt nacelle]

Just use special revo

Ez

And more fun

[mint dawn]

But I like the scope and reload animation

[gaunt nacelle]

Special revo so much better

[split marlin]

revo reload cancelling

🔥

[mint dawn]

Hmm

[gaunt nacelle]

This pub has a different opinion than me, this makes the pubs opinion invalid

Ez

[mint dawn]

I would like the burst cannon reload animation sound the best

It just sounds great to reload

[vapid solstice]

uhhh

r4d2 right?

tank at the end but no mom

[gaunt nacelle]

Yes

No there’s mom alarm

[vapid solstice]

bro gaslighting me

[gaunt nacelle]

You have to stick around for a decent amount of time though

And a alarm door can be pulled in sec

Spawns 5 moms per wave

[vapid solstice]

bro went from gaslighting to just lying 😭

[gaunt nacelle]

Btw team like

It’s common knowledge

I lie a lot

For the funnies

[junior latch]

the R8B4sec alarm is typically called an Extreme cluster

[rose mason]

what about secondary with the Megacluster Surge alarm? xD

ohh wait, with sec you don't mean the second alarm but the secondary one

my bad

[vapid solstice]

smh

you know what level im at though, the lie was just not working

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/milly-silly-cat-silly-silly-milly-happy-cat-gif-13373795408567336440

[gaunt nacelle]

it did a minor amount

[vapid solstice]

made me double check if r4d2 was the T8 charger scan for main or not

[gaunt nacelle]

see

[vapid solstice]

have you beaten all levels

[gaunt nacelle]

nop

R6D3

and on

and ive done story R7

and like three in R8

[vapid solstice]

gonna catch up soon then /s

[gaunt nacelle]

yea you are lowkey

havent done much prog in R6

and im waiting for @runic anvil to get tehre

[vapid solstice]

arent you missing 2 more

[gaunt nacelle]

göh

[vapid solstice]

is that a yes or no

[gaunt nacelle]

missing 2 more what?

levels?

[vapid solstice]

or are you duoing

[gaunt nacelle]

sometimes duo

but like we have some people we run with

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[gaunt nacelle]

mire, eph, rem

to name a few

[junior latch]

moth when I add everything from R8 levels for next bingo and he combusts

[gaunt nacelle]

wdym its so peak when i have to get a mod to play bingo

[junior latch]

surely im not gonna force people to get exactly a silver medal (and not bronze or gold)

[gaunt nacelle]

isnt that hard ish for duo?

[vapid solstice]

would be a skill issue tbh

[gaunt nacelle]

so true

[junior latch]

not specifying a level tbf (also silver is very duoable depending on lvl)

[gaunt nacelle]

R6A1 🔥

[vapid solstice]

so what exactly is an S Cluster alarm

[gaunt nacelle]

sustain cluster alarm

its in the name

[vapid solstice]

the wiki doesn't explain every alarm type i think

[pure belfry]

Gotcha, and I can see why based on the observation of how it plays out ingame. However, it is a Surge by having an ID of 21, with the bioscans themselves being referred to as a Megacluster, which is why the wiki currently lists it as a Megacluster Surge Alarm

[gaunt nacelle]

bacisly it just shoots out a couple of sustain alarms

and you complete one after the other

[pure belfry]

This is the extreme alarm from R8B3 which has an ID of 276

[vapid solstice]

whats the alarm type that moves a team scan, i remember one of those from years ago before the alt

[near stag]

a set of 3 Sustain scans

[pure belfry]

The way things are under the surface... are a lot more complicated, because Surge and Extreme are so very similar in gameplay

[gaunt nacelle]

T-scans :3

[sacred briar]

it’s all semantics

[pure belfry]

pretty much really. I had to look into the game to even tell what the difference was

you really cant tell the difference just through gameplay, that well

[rose mason]

but why is the T-scan called T-scan, I never figured this out

[pure belfry]

Traveling Scan

[gaunt nacelle]

surely not because its traveling :3

[near stag]

shouldnt there be flyers aswell?

[pure belfry]

I've never seen Flyers on the R8B3 Extreme, just Chargers and Hybrids

[pseudo sedge]

there are

the game probably spawns a second alarm when u open the bulkhead door

u'd need to check if there's any event that has to do with spawning an enemy wave

[pure belfry]

oh that's on the Secondary Bulkhead

[pastel sky]

This one actually sounds fun

[pure belfry]

this alarm is in the area skipped in the speedrun

[rose mason]

ohh, this makes sense, thank you very much

[pure belfry]

lemme check that wave tho

while I'm at it

[pseudo sedge]

ah ok i thought that was the error from secondary, not the in secondary alarm mb

[junior latch]

its cuz R8B3 Extreme would read as "R8B3 secondary" to a lot of people

whove been around forever

[pseudo sedge]

wait extreme doesn't mean secondary?

[runic anvil]

almost there 🙏 🙏

[near stag]

oh you mean the Hard version of the Sustain

[pure belfry]

yea I caught that just now while I was looking lol, mb

[junior latch]

its about the extreme alarm

[pure belfry]

yes, the Extreme Alarm being the "Hardest" version of the 3 choices in that room

[pseudo sedge]

OMG THE FUCKING START ALARMS XDDDD

i forgot those exist

lmao

mb

[pure belfry]

here's the wave attached to the Secondary (Or Extreme, if you prefer) Bulkhead

[near stag]

sounds about right

[pure belfry]

hmmm now that I look at this wave, I think the wiki page needs to be double checked, this notation usually means (Trickle [amount of enemies]-[seconds between waves] [SpawnPool]_[Level Identifier])

also probably need to message auri about cconsole doing something silly on R8B4 instead of having the color coded brackets for the enemy pool

Here is what I see happening:

After a ~15 second delay of pulling the alarm, every 35 seconds, 5 enemies will spawn, with 0-3 Flyers spawning, and the rest being Chargers. If a Big Charger decides to spawn, only 4 enemies will spawn

[mint dawn]

That’s a fun alarm

If your close enough in the walls you can just melee the flyers

[pure belfry]

one of the very few times where it's reasonably viable to melee flyers which is neat

maybe 4-30 was correct before that R8 patch that swapped the ambush at the end?

[sacred briar]

why not just pull up the datablocks?

[honest parrot]

is there a difference between what each can show?

[sacred briar]

you don’t have to be in the game to check. and you can get the exact values and timings

[pure belfry]

I tend to not post datablocks here since it's not something most players openly know how to interpret since it's not as straightforward

but I can

[near stag]

They cant do Datablocks, but can do CC?

[sacred briar]

i suppose for simplicity showing a cconsole screenshot is fine

[near stag]

[sacred briar]

but it feels a little silly to me going to an exact spot in a level just to verify wave settings

[pure belfry]

cconsole screenshot is a bit easier to look at than this

     "m_pauseBeforeStart": 15.0,
     "m_pauseBetweenGroups": 35.0,
     "m_wavePauseMin_atCost": 1.0,
     "m_wavePauseMax_atCost": 10.0,
     "m_wavePauseMin": 1.0,
     "m_wavePauseMax": 30.0,
     "m_populationFilter": [
       "Standard",
       "Special",
       "MiniBoss"
     ],
     "m_filterType": "Include",
     "m_chanceToRandomizeSpawnDirectionPerWave": 1.0,
     "m_chanceToRandomizeSpawnDirectionPerGroup": 1.0,
     "m_overrideWaveSpawnType": true,
     "m_survivalWaveSpawnType": "FromElevatorDirection",
     "m_populationPointsTotal": -1.0,
     "m_populationPointsPerWaveStart": 5.0,
     "m_populationPointsPerWaveEnd": 5.0,
     "m_populationPointsMinPerGroup": 5.0,
     "m_populationPointsPerGroupStart": 5.0,
     "m_populationPointsPerGroupEnd": 5.0,
     "m_populationRampOverTime": 0.0,
     "name": "Trickle 4-30 SSpM_R8B3",
     "internalEnabled": true,
     "persistentID": 282
   },```

and those first 2 lines are right on the dot, 15s delay and 35s pause between groups

[sacred briar]

well yeah it’s not tabbed consistently, and you’re using strings instead of ints for the enums

[near stag]

If you dont crop properly and Just spew Out the entire Wall

Then yes

[near stag]

      "m_pauseBeforeStart": 15.0,
      "m_pauseBetweenGroups": 35.0,
      "m_wavePauseMin": 1.0,
      "m_wavePauseMax": 30.0,
       "FromElevatorDirection",
     
      "m_populationPointsPerWave": 5.0,
      "m_populationRampOverTime": 0.0,
      "name": "Trickle 4-30 SSpM_R8B3",
      
    },```

[pure belfry]

Well, that's a new one to me, I don't tend to crop code quite like that but I can

[slow bay]

gtfo mentioned in official amd server?

there is a possibility

[rose nova]

nice

[slow bay]

lets hope that if they do, they use the correct driver version if they are using an rx 7000 or 9000 gpu lmao

[split marlin]

gtfo couldve been a real contender

but theres silent hill f

😔

[slow bay]

only other game in that list ive heard of is mortuary assistant lol

[pure belfry]

Kinda surprised Cronos isnt on that list

[split marlin]

crazy

that must be a bait

i refused to believe it

[sharp owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227912785290330113/1298265337938055188/togif-12.gif

[shut vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

[sharp owl]

Hello bate cats man

Battle

[shut vapor]

Heylo

Courier?

[sharp owl]

https://tenor.com/view/l-corp-lobotomy-corporation-library-of-ruina-project-moon-pmoon-gif-11033836203289114979

[sharp owl]

Nope!

[shut vapor]

:((((

[sharp owl]

I couldn’t beat the fucking stages

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128777569995595836/1414045884512993401/IMG_6717.gif

[shut vapor]

Red duck?

[sharp owl]

Yeah

[shut vapor]

[sharp owl]

I need to do more campaign

[shut vapor]

I believe in you

[sharp owl]

Cus I’m underleveled as shit

[shut vapor]

That's fair

[sharp owl]

Atleast finish future 2 and cosmos 1

Then MAYBE

[shut vapor]

Oh yeah catslots comes back on friday

[sharp owl]

GAMBLE!!

Dude

We should gtfo sometime

I’m getting rusty

[shut vapor]

I haven't launched the game in a hot minute

[sharp owl]

Join me in R1A1 tmrw

[shut vapor]

Been playing rocket league and battle cats and hearthstone and runescape

[sharp owl]

Rune escape

[sharp owl]

I’ve been grinding a single game and I started a lob corp cult in it

[shut vapor]

Uh oh

[shut vapor]

Lob corp is so goofy

[sharp owl]

https://tenor.com/view/bongbong-lobotomy-corp-lobotomy-corporation-gif-26193236

[shut vapor]

Where's the void anomaly that doesn't exist and anything that crosses its non existent barrier also doesn't exist

[honest parrot]

it's bongbong!

Rejoice!

[long scroll]

what do you get if you already have the R6 color pallet from the original rundown

[mellow hedge]

soomething else

[lost lynx]

You get The

[rose nova]

mask

the gtfo mask

[rocky sequoia]

R1C2 is making me want to inject water in my bloodstream 🤤

[rose nova]

r u ok

havin trouble at some part

[rocky sequoia]

Everything was going perfect, i had 8 out of 10 partial decoders i needed, by accident i woke up one of these giant sleepers and it downed me, i was playing with dauda, hackett and bishop themselves, all 3 decided to revive me instead of taking down the big one at the same time

It downed them in one hit 😭

[rose nova]

happens

as a certified bot player

yes and it hurts

[rocky sequoia]

Now im tweaking

I swear my muscles are twitching from joy

Ill take a break and ill try again

[rose nova]

thats why when i go bots i just pick bat even if it hinders me in some areas
tho c2 with a bat might be like

harder at points

i dont remember which melee i had tbh when i did it

or shoot them thats another option

[rocky sequoia]

Yeah

I swear next time im not gonna sugarcoat it

Those things are getting bullets guaranteed

[rose nova]

picks machinepistol and short rifle
big dmgs fr fr

[warped monolith]

SKKKKKKKKKRRRRRAAAAAAAA

[rose nova]

brr goes hard

i picked short rifle for like a r2 somethkng and then my dumbass actually had to vome through and clutch one two times

i am not built for carrying

too bad

[runic anvil]

short rifle is lowkey one of my favorite guns

[warped monolith]

I bet it was like a C2

possibly B4 even

[rose nova]

no cuz i wouldnt have been able to

[warped monolith]

brah

[rose nova]

i say i am bad

[mystic moss]

short rifle is so fun

[rose nova]

bur like i am bad bad

[warped monolith]

brahhhh

[rose nova]

:]

mousen't

trackpad gaming

[warped monolith]

hey thats how I play krunker

[runic anvil]

you already know

[mellow hedge]

explain in intricate detail

[runic anvil]

surely mods would be completely fine with that

[granite cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/shusher-home-captain-smek-gif-16112908977447177811

[tiny mist]

Yeah I can explain in detail

Run it over

And shoot it as many times as I can

[near stag]

Just throw some Pocket catnip in its eyes

[runic anvil]

i will also be doing this

[sudden pawn]

I can take em

[quasi idol]

Acceleration

[slow bay]

Nope, that is literally the only orher game there ive heard of

[upper idol]

yeah I'm pretty sure

[granite cairn]

Is madness

[quasi idol]

If i see this infront of me I'm going to have a panic attack and rapidly try to escape while questioning my sanity

[cold grail]

Is there a way to stop bots from picking up stuff

[honest parrot]

no

[cold grail]

😢

[jaunty plaza]

pick it up first

or make them follow you

[pastel sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416907525460590593/1420170475312648272/caption.gif

[jaunty plaza]

not 100% proof but it should work

[reef tusk]

bros is it allowed on this server to watch games?

[split marlin]

you can join the vc that are not "Team #NUMBER"

[reef tusk]

thx!

[split marlin]

if you arent sure just ask them

[graceful gorge]

Not sure if this counts as lft but

Im an old player that just got back recently and would like to try and 100% clear everything

Any3 guys would like to do the same?

Im down to listen for advice and relearn along the way

Dm me if ur interested

[rose mason]

the best way is to open up your own lobby and send a invitation invite in the lfg channel, for that read the #how-to-matchmake , create your voice channel of 4 and send the invitation link in the #lfg-beginners and/or in your specific region, you can see the different lfg channel in the how to matchmake channel

so people gonna see your lobby and link and can join you fast and easily 👍

[graceful geode]

"open up your lobby" makes me remember that song

"open up your heart, what do you feel?"

"World... hold on..."

[latent palm]

Omg sleepo

Does this to you and runs

[graceful geode]

...who does this to me and runs? 🤣

ain't that the reverse trap lady from Pokemon?

she's cute

[latent palm]

Me im eating ur head

[graceful gorge]

Im not lfg rn though

Just want to see if anyone is interested

[slow bay]

which falls under lfg

[rose mason]

the thing, many people are interested but maybe they have a different time schedule than you or different time zone, so I think looking for a group when you want to play something is better

[willow sentinel]

wsg gang. whats the efficacy of the sawed off shotgun for regular mothers? i have a scattergunner on the team already, who mainly solos mothers and im usually on the helrifle

is the sawed off any good for mothers or is it really just bigger shotguns only?

[honest parrot]

It's good enough in comparison to the scatter, which can just two tap mom

In terms of other shotguns it's pretty nice, probably as good as hel shotty for mom clears

[rose nova]

about every 30 dmg weapon just relies on its reload and mag to declare how good it is against mom

so sawed off is a perfect... good enough

however

i would much rather use sawed off and hel shotgun for babirs

not mom itself

the pellets on both of these work magically to clear babies

if u have a scatte however u can just let that person do mom clears and they dont kill it immediately, u got a hel rifle

[honest parrot]

most shotguns are good at baby clearing, so you usually use other shottys to support your scatter, who might miss the kill

And get swarmed by babies while he reloads

But ye if you have a hel rifle you don't really need to bring hel shotty or sawed off for support

[willow sentinel]

so more of a backup for the scatterboy incase he doesnt 2shot

[honest parrot]

Sort of

[rose nova]

kinda, a backup for babies mostly

[willow sentinel]

i usually run doubletap for primary but r4e1 is being a huge pain in the ass

[rose nova]

or just a good gun cuz sawed offs good

[honest parrot]

You can technically use a mop if all you care about is finishing off moms and tanks

[lost lynx]

Finishing mom's and tanks

Damn

[willow sentinel]

the problem is theres fucking 4 of them in 1 room

[honest parrot]

Well

You don't fight them

That's the whole point of haaving four of them in a faqing room

[willow sentinel]

we tried that. we allways get fucked by the spawns. its easier/faster to clear them out :|

[honest parrot]

If you need to fight them bring stuff that can baby cleaer

[lost lynx]

It's a 4 man team?

[rose nova]

are u all trying to go for code?

[willow sentinel]

3+bot

[rose nova]

u need to split up

[lost lynx]

What level?

[honest parrot]

R4E1

[lost lynx]

Oh

[willow sentinel]

nah homie up the front clearing waves, 2+bot going for codes

[lost lynx]

You don't fight then

Lol

[honest parrot]

Technically if you're good fighting them costs you less than sneaking

But if you have three people on code then yeah

Fighting them is ok

(Bots suck against moms btw)

[willow sentinel]

every single time we've run it the mother spawns have necissitated a fight. we got lucky with the last run bc 2 in a side room we could seal off

[honest parrot]

I mean if your front holder is insane you can do that

[willow sentinel]

bot is with us to ping the bitch when she scuttles into the fog

[honest parrot]

usually it's a three people defend and one dive comp

[willow sentinel]

he's chill like that

[honest parrot]

Actually frosty and the others are here we could ask them

@mellow hedge You still around?

Want to ask about killing moms in R4E1
You know the 4 moms in one room one

[willow sentinel]

our last run we killed 3 and it made going for codes much smoother... but yea might pray for good spawns next time

which means it'd be me going for codes...

fuck

[junior latch]

ngl ive note seen a single mom spawn that actually FORCED a fight
Killing has the 1 advantage that you can speed up pathing through the zone off of any spawn

[lost lynx]

Omg Eva is here

You are in good hands now

[mellow hedge]

yeah what about

[junior latch]

if you rly wanna nuke the momes just take 2 client scatterguns in and nuke 2 of them
then babyclear the 2 spawns (avoid leaks) and then nuke the other 2 again

[honest parrot]

Uh 'is it worth it' mostly

[mellow hedge]

not really

[junior latch]

it rly isnt ya

[willow sentinel]

Next run we will avoid killing mothers then

ngl didn't see the room at the time but scatterboy said "we need to kill it"

[rose mason]

I completed R4E1 with a split up, 2 gonna shoot the waves in that room with all the resources and the 2 are looking for codes, but with the one bot I am not sure how you should do it

[willow sentinel]

requested that I bring a shitty to assist

[junior latch]

who has bio for you btw

[willow sentinel]

bot

[honest parrot]

*shotty

[mint dawn]

[junior latch]

what guns is defender running?

[mint dawn]

That’s fair my first time I thought that to

But then I was told don’t you dare shoot in that room

[willow sentinel]

uhhh hold on. cant rmemeber so im chekcing clips lmao

shotun and pistol

[junior latch]

o.O

[willow sentinel]

wait autopistol

[junior latch]

thats a wild solo hold loadout

even moreso without bio for later waves

[willow sentinel]

idk man he clears house with that shit

[mint dawn]

Damn

[rose mason]

hel autopistol, very good weapon

[junior latch]

not for reactor solo hold ngl

[willow sentinel]

i think he sets up with the turret and AP's to stun them

[junior latch]

shotgun can do work if you play close up

iirc it got used for some of the first alt r4e1 duos

[willow sentinel]

thats him baybee

[rose mason]

kinda bad load out, there are much better weapons

[mint dawn]

Wouldn’t the sentry by useless after 3th phase bc it can’t see shadows

[honest parrot]

Aren't there hybrids?

[mint dawn]

That’s last wave

[tall hawk]

bio behaviour

[mint dawn]

It’s 3?

[willow sentinel]

bot stays with him past wave 3

[mint dawn]

Or 2

[tall hawk]

hybrids on wave 6

[willow sentinel]

pings them for the turret

[tall hawk]

shadows from wave 4 onwards

[mint dawn]

Oh ok

[honest parrot]

As long as your runner doesn't faq up mom room and feeds defender well enough

[willow sentinel]

he would disagree and i would agree with him. mf holds out for 27 goddamn reactor waves with nothing but

[honest parrot]

it should be fine

He's good with his aim most likely

Pis is good like that

[rose mason]

because he is a good player but he should use other weapons to be even better

[honest parrot]

I mean hel rev might help a little, but only a little

[mint dawn]

If he can hold 27 waves then I just think it’s just how fast you can get the codes then(I’m assuming your getting them)

[junior latch]

he can disagree all he wants

there are much better weapons

whether he can hold with em or not doesnt change that really

[willow sentinel]

idk man he does what he does

[honest parrot]

From now, it'll be fine enough

[junior latch]

well yea
if it works dont need to change for now

[honest parrot]

(does pis even get enough ammo for this)

[mint dawn]

I mean what wave was he holding for so long

[junior latch]

its not like its super inefficient... why wouldnt it

[mint dawn]

Bc it’s pretty hard to handle the last wave by yourself with that loadout

[honest parrot]

first time r4e1 runs are like that

You bang your head into walls a lot

[junior latch]

hel auto just doesnt have the TTK for reactor so it basically needs cover where other guns dont

[mint dawn]

If it was like 2-3 then Yh

But like 5-6

It’s pretty bad with a bit

[willow sentinel]

uhhhh wave 3 or 4?

i dont quite remember. the cloud of shame from causing the wipe obscures my memory

[mint dawn]

I’m assuming a shadow

[willow sentinel]

nope. accidentally set off a far room that i was sneaking through, backtracked through the wrong door and walked into a room of like 20 strikers

[honest parrot]

It should be fine if you can hold there for long enough

Just make sure you feed him enough ammo and you're golden most of the time

[mint dawn]

Can’t you get the 5th and 6th code at the same time?

Bc the 5th is in the fog area and the last is the final area far from reactor

[willow sentinel]

i ahve no clue. didnt get that far LMAO

[honest parrot]

I don't think they've gotten there yet

Yeah I was late on that

[mint dawn]

Oh, mb I thought you said you got to 4th wave

So I just assumed you have gotten close to there

[willow sentinel]

i got into zone 515 so was looking for the 3rd password (phase 4)

[junior latch]

no

[mint dawn]

Oh ok

[junior latch]

6th only opens with 6th wave having been started, which you need 5th code in for

[mint dawn]

I’ve only been in charge for the 5th code since I always run infection resistance

And defending so

But Ik where the terminal locations are

[junior latch]

boosters

[willow sentinel]

700 boosters and they're all +hacking skill -infection resist

[mint dawn]

I mean my first time I still did it, I just got full infection

[rose mason]

this guy is also using a mod to not use consum the boosters, so he can repeat this

[willow sentinel]

cmon man please

[mint dawn]

That’s perfect

[junior latch]

the big play is

to just not use any boosters

@willow sentinel

no boosters? no problem

[willow sentinel]

lmaoooo

we did a no boosters test run and got crazy far

[lost lynx]

The big play is to use 100% resources efficiency

[pure belfry]

remember guys infection doesn't matter if you simply never take damage

[mint dawn]

I think that’s overkill

[lost lynx]

Sorry

[pure belfry]

🕴️

[mint dawn]

Unless you just wanna run and gun

[lost lynx]

I meant 200%

[mint dawn]

Then Yh

[junior latch]

you can already do that

[willow sentinel]

what would you recommend then

[junior latch]

without boosters

[junior latch]

any of the goated wave clear options if he rly wants to take the best

[mint dawn]

Well Yh

[junior latch]

hel revolver, sawed off shotgun for main
hel gun/rifle for special

ngl this answer is pretty uniform for most waveclear situations, especially reactors

could take PR if he wants to be a bit quirky (weaker gun, but doesnt need bio half as much and is actually quite solid on R4E1 for help into tanks aswell)

[agile pagoda]

HELP ME

[rose mason]

primary: sawed off shotung, hel revolver if he is good at headshotting enemies

special: hel gun or hel rifle

[agile pagoda]

Me and my friends are having a bug where the “initiate cage drop” button will hit 100% when we hold it down and then instantly go back to zero instead of starting the game, anyone know a work around?

[lost lynx]

#1049599987878723635

[willow sentinel]

isnt the hel gun shit from a butt?

[lost lynx]

Make sure no one has a VPN

[rose nova]

hard to use but extremely good

[lost lynx]

If you guys don't then make a thread on #1049599987878723635 and give us your logs #bug-reporting

[pure belfry]

the hel gun is so good

[rose mason]

that's a crazy statement xD
I prefer the hel rifle over hel gun because you need more skill for hel gun but if you can hit well headshots and enemies behind them, then it is a goated weapon

[junior latch]

wat

[rose nova]

maybe if the butt was midas...

[lost lynx]

You just DID NOT said that

[lost lynx]

That's a good one

[rose mason]

you know that all HEL weapons have penetration bullets, so every single HEL is very strong in this game because you can get so much value if you play them right

[willow sentinel]

IDK THATS JUST WHAT I HEARD FROM Y'ALL HERE

[split marlin]

hel gun best gun

[lost lynx]

I can guarantee you, we never said that

[split marlin]

who been spreading misinfo about hel gun

[lost lynx]

I blame Sleepyboi

[vale orchid]

how can i play with my friends when we are not in the same country!!

[lost lynx]

Game is Peer to Peer

[split marlin]

its shit for killing boss i guess

[junior latch]

nobody would ever say hel gun is anything but S tier unless they dont know anything or are trolling

[lost lynx]

It doesn't have traditional servers

[junior latch]

just... play?

[lost lynx]

Even games with traditional servers allow people to play with players from other countries

[rose nova]

game

go gaming

[lost lynx]

[rose mason]

make sure that nobody is using VPN

[vale orchid]

no vpn

[rose mason]

nobody ever said that O.o

[lost lynx]

Are you the friend of the guy that just asked for help?

[willow sentinel]

he has no qualms with the helgun except the reload speed

[split marlin]

????

[vale orchid]

yesterday we were still playing together but today we can't connect

[split marlin]

hel gun reloads the fastest out of all hel weapon im pretty sure

[lost lynx]

#1049599987878723635

Make a thread and send your logs #bug-reporting

[willow sentinel]

he says pistol is good for subpression and staying alive. reload speed is important to him

[rose nova]

cancel the reload

[junior latch]

its not long tho?
wha

[rose nova]

it cancels as soon as the mag is inserted

[rose mason]

sawed off and carbine is soo much better if you say reload speed

[junior latch]

supression doesnt matter if you just need to kill during a reactor

[willow sentinel]

vs the pistol. he likes his lignthing fast reload speed

[junior latch]

since you dont get more waves by killing too fast

[junior latch]

pistol is a main

[willow sentinel]

oh wait what

[lost lynx]

Why are we comparing a main to a special

[willow sentinel]

wtf he's defending shotgun over the helgun? hang on imma rip into him

[junior latch]

and hel gun is extremely close to shotgun in reload speed

[gaunt nacelle]

Why not :3

[lost lynx]

Omg Moth

[rose mason]

like I said, sawed off shotgun and carbine are also very fast reload time weapons and does much more damage than the pistol

[gaunt nacelle]

Omg A2Ass

[willow sentinel]

i have convinced him to try the carbine/sawed off to see how he fares

[rose mason]

those 2 weapons have 1.6 seconds reload time and the pistol has 1.3 seconds, so they are very close

and for special, he really needs to use hel gun or hel rifle instead of the shotgun, because he would get so much more damage and value out of the hel weapons

[junior latch]

hel auto pistol andy