gtfo-chat

[lost lynx]

That would be shit ngl

Scary? Yes
Annoying as hell? Yes

[pseudo sedge]

you dont spam it on every alarm

you just put it where it matters

once or twice in a whole rundown is enough

per rundown

[upper idol]

Half of these sound kind of awful

[lost lynx]

You would just
Then not foam or mine when he appears making it whatever

[pseudo sedge]

and yet placed correctly they would be 10x more fun and enjoyable than "shooter but can lick" or "charger but tankier with a tumor in the chest"

[upper idol]

true

I do like the Nightmares on e2 tho

[pseudo sedge]

e2 imo fucks up a bit cause the waves of nightmares aren't properly mixed with other enemy types

(granted this is without the addition of new cool shit)

also for this: you don't even need to have him spawn when the alarm starts, have him spawn 20s later so u have to play around him, listen to his spawn sound

[mellow hedge]

guys, insane ball knowledge if you know, but what about a character that moves like ToyLitFrog from one night at froggers and its basically just "dont get caught"

and you just have to run away from him

[near stag]

so basically, you dont tripmine the door, and only once he goes through you place the mine back down? idk sounds whack

see the vision tho

[pseudo sedge]

imagine the sec door opens to a zone and u see nothing, literally nothing, all black, as if there is no more level after it, u all jump into it and the level behind u disappears, then randomly the floor appears back out and it's ALL fleshy and gooey like in r8a2 secondary, the floors, the walls, everything is genuinely fucked. Then from the walls enemies start spawning, and u just do ur best to survive while trying to recognize the rooms u are in and how to get out, later u find out that that was your brain screwing with u because of all the trauma u've had to deal with and ur brain slowly becoming incapable of dealing with the horrors in the complex

[rose nova]

cry of fear reference

🔥

[near stag]

imagine having that biomass from the inner as the level

[mellow hedge]

okay bro didnt know you were into rp

new copypasta just dropped

[pseudo sedge]

GTFO honestly is one of the games that has a lot of potential simply because of the possibility to run with anything because of the multi dimensionality. You can genuinely justify horrors that are well above what other games can throw at the player with "this shit had millions of years to evolve into the perfect sentient being killer, good luck"

make the virus and parasite a threat not just in the lore, but throw it in the face of the player, make the player understand how dangerous and mental this is

not just reference the kill count in lore logs.

[near stag]

wasnt parasite one of the cut enemies?

[rose nova]

yes but i dont think it was nam v per se

it was more oof a bug

like an insect

[upper idol]

remember the thing that was at the end of the first reveal trailer

[rose nova]

funny tentacle

[upper idol]

the Striker tongue parasite

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[upper idol]

it made the Striker tongue sound but yknow

plus the unused enemy sounds like the exploder

[rose nova]

r5a2 door 🔥

[upper idol]

we lowkey could've had a cielling hanging enemy like the cielling grabbers of deep rock galactic

it would've been a fun environmental hazard for like r2e1

or the Kraken fight in e2

[rose nova]

i wish they did the anemones it would seem fun for r2c2 kinds of levels

:]

[lost lynx]

Oh hell nah, I'm traumatized by those things

[junior latch]

I wish we had one that covered its weakpoint with "teeth" (bones that grew like teeth) in the center of its body

kinda like the big flyer, but it swaps the side it shows when it hides one side from the players. Then give it some cool options to attack

also potato shouldve spawned nightmare babies than explode instead of attacking imo

[pseudo sedge]

another idea: u just walk into a room, see a dead body pile in the middle of it, with a bunch of dead bodies around the room, u start an alarm, but no wave comes, slowly the dead pile of bodies starts moving, u shit ur pants start shooting it as it starts to run around the room fucking u all up, it even picks up bodies from the room and heals itself, throws dead bodies at u, sometimes starts walking up on the ceiling, gets above a player and then just drops on a player instantly downing them if it hits

[upper idol]

giant flyer was underused, but I understand why it wasn't used as much

tgb loves to ro

leplay

[pseudo sedge]

instead we get giga mom, who spawns strikers instead of babies sometimes and can lick

[upper idol]

can we get gtfo erotic roleplay

[junior latch]

getting stuck anywhere and everywhere

[upper idol]

sigh r7e1 reactor meat wall room

[rose nova]

from what i understand a lot of stuff on r8 was made as gtfo kinda knew its strenghts and what they could reutilize while being good- obvs-
but even r8 was finished like hhours before release, and if r7 snatcher came out with the bugs it did, something more complicated would be titanic

i compare it always to getting over it, where the narrator says working with a game its like quick dry cement

[pseudo sedge]

r8 was just "hack something together that ends the story"

that was it

[rose nova]

u do ur ideas, and at some point the code u do it limits u up until yoou cannot get much more oout of it

[upper idol]

I liked r8 Sue me

[rose nova]

and u either break iit oor work with it

maybe there couldve been mmore to r8 yees, i wouoldve liked more dimensional stuff but it wouldve been either crazy to develop new enemies or give so much time for it to be planned and done- moreso with dow in the background

the only big regret is the eliminatedd snatcher on kraken in e2 :[

wouldve been funny

[pseudo sedge]

the thing u are referencing is called technical and architectural debt, these are concepts in programming which basically ask the question: "how much in the future do u want to design this code for?". Everyone would love to design code that can withstand centuries but realistically... u make an educated guess for how long the code is going to be used and u design it to work until then.

[upper idol]

wait so r8 was finished hours before release

[rose nova]

yeah they were fixing stuff up to the end of time

[pseudo sedge]

In the case of GTFO imo the codebase they did it on doesn't seem genuinely bad. Yea it has some weird quirks but these are genuienly fixable and the devs "could" have done more had the game had a more general appeal and there was a desire to make this game into something more

[rose nova]

specifically e2 i think

[upper idol]

that's kinda crazy

[lost lynx]

Wasn't E2 made in a couple hours lol

I saw someone saying something like that

[rose nova]

i guess u know more about the coding than i do, but i think both dow and gtfo happening, and the deadline of TGA kinda limited a lot of what couldve been
had gtfo been huge maybe it couldve been a lot more, imthe first onee to wish it was, but they kinda 'played it safe' as they knew their constraints, which is not necessarily bad but a direction to take the game on

[rose nova]

idk im going off the 10c video

its beeen a while sinice i seen it and i could be wrong but i remeember them saying r8 was pushed to the limit of their deadline

[pseudo sedge]

DoW for 10C is economically a good play, the reality is the way GTFO was marketed and designed it wasn't going to become such a HUGE name for it to be worked on indefinitely (or at least longer than it was so that the content could actually have a "satisfying" end). Tho it had the potential which if realized earlier it could have honestly happened. (Satisfying in the second last sentence I use to mean: you get to that point where you got the feeling that if anything else get added it would just cause a bloated feeling rather than good new additions)

[rose nova]

a closure yes, end it before it becomes minecraft

[pseudo sedge]

honestly minecraft got to that point, the only difference being it's so big the modding community is hard carrying it

on the other hand: i've been looking to work on a gamemode for GTFO and one of the main things that piss me off rn is the enemy variety is just so shit I am insanely heavily limited by what I can do

even modded enemies just feel like vanilla enemies with better stats (at least most of them)

[rose nova]

i get that, ive heard rumors ranging from "10c almost bankrupted" to "10c was doing SO well" so its kinda hard to pick a side really, but yes i think the obvious best answer was for gtfo to finish as it did, with all of its content available and with a closure as at the end its more good than harm, i think we can all agree on that front

[rose nova]

thats a huge thing that just keeps me from modded- apart from well i cant mod

but ive seen some videos on modded enemies and even said it to some people, i dont get ir

like wheres the fun on enemies that 3 projectiles and ur 100% infected like bugged infection chickens ksks

maybe its cuz i havent tried them which could be fair, but a lot of the good ideas they seem to have are under those enemies and i dont see it really working as well as it could

thats why i love occlusion, cuz despite how simple it might seem what it does is just be what gtfo does best, keep the gameplay similar but spice it via the mechanics, weather reactors, warp gate reactors, a nightmare sequence- they work well

and u dont need to mod in crazy enemies to make that work as well as it does

[pseudo sedge]

one of the reason why this happens is making new modded enemies that have interesting new mechanics is genuienly insane. You need to model them, rig them, build everything about them, balance them, then u get to use them in what.... 2-3 levels?

in 2-3 sections

which means good job, u've spent 1 month of ur life and people are gonna be genuienly freaked out for 2 more minutes of their lives, give u a good review and then move on.

A person who is unpaid for this work doesn't afford to put this much work into this

so what ends up sticking will probably be either: "change stats and rebalance the game and make goofy looking stuff" or "make use of existing vanilla content by combining the best stuff of vanilla" or "work ur ass off to make new shit for barely any recognition"

honestly best example of this would be rundown X

i swear that shit is goated

and yet barely any people know and play it

[rose nova]

doing new stuff out of the game i feel lile its a different theme, and i dont say 'issue' but 'theme', as i feel like it goes with how much ur willing to do for a game u like regardless of the recognition
like obvs i cannot speak for anyone, but if u mod a game for upwards of a month to do something, ur liking whatever ur doing and its up to u if u wanna keep on doing it

at the end its a bit of a creative decision, u can compare it to animation i guess in a way of, do u wanna do storyboards and full on character sheets for a project, or do u wanna do more silly videos and both ways are fine- its a matter of direction

and both can be great as long as- of course- they have quality and stuff, which i cannot do examples of in the modding scene but im sure theres a rundown with a lot of reused enemies with different stats that is good and great

moddong fuck me kdmskd

[rare stone]

the evil and intimidating invisible medpack

[hasty bobcat]

it was in their pocket

[rose nova]

healed u withh the mind

[mellow hedge]

omg not edcrab

[graceful geode]

You make it sound like it's the people's fault

truth is the game "requires" other people, and it isn't exactly mod-friendly (as you stated, it's incredibly hard to create new content, but it isn't incredibly intuitive to mod the game either)

This game should have had some basic workshop implementation for it to has a more lasting effect

but I assume that'd be hard to make too

As someone profane, my uneducated impression is that this game's structure is jury-rigged and incredibly stiff.

[pseudo sedge]

the purpose of that is to say: the reward, work ratio for a rando person to mod this game and get something out there that is cool is genuienly insane

so there is a reason why most of the in game content is just vanilla stuff but slightly different stats

[mellow hedge]

In-game mod support would have helped massively

[pseudo sedge]

honestly releasing their in house editor would have helped massively

[split marlin]

gtfo would never going to become a cult classics

its too janked and not terribly interesting

its pretty hardcore, but thats about it

gameplay loop is incredibly repetitive, and the story is mostly vague nondescript

[pure belfry]

the story is pretty good, but it's so chopped up and out of order that you can never put the majority of it together without joining us over in gtfo lore

like, look at this

Rundown 8.0 Logs#WKH-N2E-TAZ
ALT://Rundown 3.0 Logs#57H-K78-EVR
ALT://Rundown 3.0 Logs#76H-S3Q-156
ALT://Rundown 4.0 Logs#FCL-K5E-2BG
ALT://Rundown 5.0 Logs#7JR-T7U-780
Rundown 8.0 Logs#9PP-3ZM-MM1
Rundown 8.0 Logs#WKH-N2E-TAZ
ARCHIVE006#EBDT-55TA-X12.LOG

These are the order of logs to understand context for the Daylight Mission

starting with Rundown 8 is not a good start, and then it's spread across Rundown 3, 4, 5, and then Archive006 which is on the now defunct santonian industries website

[gaunt nacelle]

god i love getting long range aggrod into a megamom waking up

[sullen finch]

gtfr?

[gaunt nacelle]

i could

[mellow hedge]

[gaunt nacelle]

where vc?

[mellow hedge]

[sullen finch]

nah im asking if that happened in gtfr

cant play rn

[gaunt nacelle]

project thermonuclear

so not gtfr i think

theres a fucking baby room with a megamom

and its just spammed babies

curse you @lunar island

[gleaming spruce]

What is gtfr 🙋‍♂️

[sullen finch]

randomizer mod

[gleaming spruce]

Ah

[sullen finch]

i wonder if gtfr works with zaeros things

[slow bay]

i havent ever managed to get gtfr to work unfortunately

get stuck in the pod

i use autogen rundowns to make the game have a lot more replayability

it has rundowns daily, weekly, and monthly

[pure belfry]

and now seasonal

[pine root]

It is really close

Unfortunately zero monsters breaks it all it would need is to combine the mods

Then fill the lists I made for enemies to correspond to zeros enemies

[pastel sky]

Get The Fried Rice

[gleaming spruce]

YOU'RE TELLING ME A SHRIMP FRIED THIS RICE??

English is not English-ing rn, mb

[pastel sky]

God damn

[pastel sky]

Idk if I am hungry asf but first time I read GTFO I read it as get the fried onions as a joke lul

[gleaming spruce]

Now I'm hungry

Damn

[pastel sky]

Same bruh

We share a brain cell

[gleaming spruce]

Fr

[pastel sky]

Also school is starting for me lit tmr so I willd ef have less time for games like GTFO who are alredy tiring

[gaunt nacelle]

hop off school

ez

[pastel sky]

I wonder if my team will even want to beat last 3 R2 missions before end of the next week

[pastel sky]

All like 7 of us have it btw

That I got the game

[gaunt nacelle]

E1 you defo wont btw

[gaunt nacelle]

did everyone finally buy it?

[pastel sky]

I said last 3 cuz we haven't even done R2C2 we def aint gonna beat an E tier in our lives

[gaunt nacelle]

try D1, a diff approach than C2

[pastel sky]

We lost C2 and the end btw

Twice

[gaunt nacelle]

average

[pastel sky]

How do you deal with giant waves at the end

[gaunt nacelle]

shoot

[pastel sky]

We got wiped cuz of giant spam at the end

Also when we learned its perma alarm we all run knifes

Like British people

[gaunt nacelle]

yep

hammers works too but knife is good

did the spear user hop off spear?

[pastel sky]

Yeah and they still have the balanced mind set lol

[gaunt nacelle]

tell him to never ever touch it again

[pastel sky]

I still find all weapons fine it's not like impossible to play w spear

[gaunt nacelle]

spear is just big sad ngl

crouch set to toggle type players

[pastel sky]

Its hammer but precision damage

[gaunt nacelle]

no its hammer but no speed

big sad

[slender flare]

I mean it's still viable

[gaunt nacelle]

viable but still big sad

[slender flare]

I guess so, idk i play with a huge spear enjoyer so to me this sin't bad at all

[pastel sky]

Most of the times when we loose is when 1 guy dies and we loose quarter of our fire power and then we get wiped

Which happens at the end when we get jumped by giant waves on C2

Or whatever happens at the end I genuinely have no idea

They just fuckin appear

[slender flare]

you just need to learn to depend a bit more on yourself, too. Apparently

[gaunt nacelle]

Picking up the 7th PID will spawn in 6 Giants.

[slender flare]

literally

[gaunt nacelle]

^

[slender flare]

that's what ID's do

[pastel sky]

Okay that is what happen

[gaunt nacelle]

consider using the sawed off or literally any shotgun

[pastel sky]

I thought the like perma sleeper waves up at the end and start spawning giants

[slender flare]

nope. It's the objective

[gaunt nacelle]

nope the error alarm doesnt change in this level

[slender flare]

the error doesn't change

[pastel sky]

My friends LOVE scatter

[slender flare]

oh no the scatter addiction starts

[gaunt nacelle]

tell them to one tap the giants

ez

[pastel sky]

Its not good in most situations its just funny to blast stuff really

We do swap like every game

[slender flare]

wdym

[pastel sky]

That is our mind set

[slender flare]

it's the best gun in the game

[gaunt nacelle]

it literally is wdym

[pastel sky]

Even tho its winning game we just swap weapons

[slender flare]

it's so broken

Scatter can one shot a giant to the front

[pastel sky]

It deletes stuff but not very good on ammo, id sometimes easily overflow on it or just waste all of it

[pastel sky]

We did learn that

[slender flare]

just use the gun to not overfill it

[gaunt nacelle]

if you get 2+ kills on smalls ur being ammo efficient btw

like have one person on scatter ngl

[slender flare]

ammo managment is important in this game after all

[gaunt nacelle]

the blood door also req scatter kinda

[slender flare]

which blood door

[pastel sky]

We bring terrorism for C2 idk if its good for it

2 turrets terrorism and bio tracker

[gaunt nacelle]

isnt there only one?

[slender flare]

yes but what does it spawn like giants or smalls

[gaunt nacelle]

burst sentry is kinda better ngl

[pastel sky]

Theres 2

[gaunt nacelle]

hybrid spam

[pastel sky]

Like required

[gaunt nacelle]

i never go to the left side

[slender flare]

I used Veruta for that lmao

[gaunt nacelle]

it wasnt for my first clear

[slender flare]

I mean what did you expect from me

[gaunt nacelle]

and i dont think it even is req

[slender flare]

thank you

[pastel sky]

Ppl told me there is

Like 10 ids

In the level

We just like

[gaunt nacelle]

i think theres 14

[pastel sky]

List ids and see which ones are closest

Then we just do it

[gaunt nacelle]

only one blood door according to the wiki

[slender flare]

there are always more ID's than you need but you don't have to take them all

[gaunt nacelle]

list them by zones ngl

[pastel sky]

We do like 114 to 119

[gaunt nacelle]

119 iirc isnt req

[pastel sky]

The hardest part is start 100%

Like the fog part

[gaunt nacelle]

the first alarm is maybe, the fog alarm is prolly the worst part but you can blitz thru it

[pastel sky]

Class 3 while 1 of us idiots have to hold a turbine and if he hops of it we just die

[slender flare]

Oh boy you're not ready for R2E1

[hasty bobcat]

i think it's 12

[pastel sky]

Is it another perma alarm

[hasty bobcat]

either that or 9

[slender flare]

worse

but i won't spoil

[pastel sky]

Its 9

[slender flare]

it's everythign you know turned up to 11 basically

god darn it now i want to run R2E1

[pastel sky]

What can be harder than invisible scitzo enemies, permament enemy spawns and 50 enemies at once on reactor? (surely)

[gaunt nacelle]

its 9 actually

[gaunt nacelle]

team 64 is lfging R2E1

[slender flare]

I won't spoil what awaits you

[slender flare]

WAIT REALLY

R2E1 I'M COMING

[pastel sky]

So its not any of those so its gonna be a new funny mechanic to troll us I see

We are still

Very far from E1

we are fuckin struggling on C2 which is just get papers

[slender flare]

Stev. It's what you typed but turned up to 11

but i won't spoil the details

that's what i mean

but yes something new awaits

[pastel sky]

Oh

Gauntlet

God motherfuckin damn I see

[slender flare]

more like brutal combination

[gaunt nacelle]

gauntlet speedrun when?

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[gaunt nacelle]

actually?

[slender flare]

YEAH

I LOVE R2E1

[gaunt nacelle]

i might hop in and be mute

[slender flare]

Sure

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-security-camera-footage-gif-123804464413693909

Not gonna lie we did less C2 tries than C1 and lowkey we are doing it easier than C1 lol, and people told me R2C2 is a brick wall of this game

Its not that bad except we are just too dumb and we get lost in C2

[gaunt nacelle]

C2 just forces another playstyle

than what most poeple use

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[pastel sky]

R1C1 was a teacher for us in these missions lol

[mellow hedge]

There are 3 blood doors iirc

[pastel sky]

Its still the mission that took us by far the longest to beat

[gaunt nacelle]

bleh idk i only go thru one

[mellow hedge]

Pretty sure that’s impossible lil vro

You have to go through 2

[pastel sky]

116 and 118 are blood doors you need I think

[molten bloom]

LF1 AltR4C3 "Cuernos": 109775242509495861

[gaunt nacelle]

no i went east all zones kinda

[gaunt nacelle]

smh this guy doesnt read

[pastel sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1142715444931874897/1181887792029118534/attachment.gif

[gaunt nacelle]

@slender flare is throwing the game ngl

[slender flare]

I TOLD YOU I CAN'T BIO

[pseudo sedge]

confirmed the MGM is not machine gun-ing hard enough to carry p*bs?????

[slender flare]

It's a bio issue 😭

I forget i have bio

[gaunt nacelle]

yea tgb she isnt great at this game

smh smh

[slender flare]

😡

[gaunt nacelle]

she wants the mute player to take bio

[slender flare]

I'll shoot you for this slander

[gaunt nacelle]

i dont even have the "qol" pingeverywhere mod

[pseudo sedge]

mf forgets to press 4 when she has machine gun in slot 3

[gaunt nacelle]

and do <1 dmg?

[slender flare]

YOU'RE RELIABLE AT LEAST

[pastel sky]

Ppl rlly make mods for this

[gaunt nacelle]

oh boy have you seen nothing

[slender flare]

tbh real

I just have too much fun spraying the horde

[gaunt nacelle]

like dont even open the mods websites for this game

[slender flare]

Also i cannot play in teams for the life of me

🥹

[gaunt nacelle]

very true

[slender flare]

the duo addiction got to me

I can only play duo or solo

[pastel sky]

Are they all just R rated or

[slender flare]

😭

[pastel sky]

Like they make mods just for most dumb stuff

[pseudo sedge]

i was thinking of making a mod that adds this balance change: when u use AR, each shot marks an enemy, if the 2nd shot hits a marked enemy you "detonate" that mark dealing 5 extra damage (no mark is added if a mark was detonated). And funnily enough this would be technically balanced when compared to sawed off and hel shotty

9.4 dmg every 2 shots, means u beat sawed off efficiency by quite a bit but are still heavily behind hel shotty without pen

[gaunt nacelle]

theyre all just cheats

[gaunt nacelle]

lowwkey fire

[pastel sky]

I mean 96% of ppl who own the game haven't beaten R1, ppl needa make something out of the game ig

If the devs won't make difficulty scaling then people will find some rtrded ways ig

[gaunt nacelle]

its less than that, steam achievements arent true

[pastel sky]

I mean if you alredy cheat in the game you are supposed to play strategically what you doin atp

And like asking for strats for some levels in server like these when ppl alredy beaten in that is jsut kinda dumb

[gaunt nacelle]

cheating in any game ruins it

[pastel sky]

Yeah but yk from average amount of player, under 4% can beat the easiest things, some people just wanna see the game I guess??

I really badly wanna see the ending of this game and like how the story goes but sometimes it takes days to finish 1 fuckin level

Some ppl won't wait or judt play something else at that point

[gaunt nacelle]

more people beat R1 than that

like stev, achievements were added like 3 years after game released

and they didnt check the like ones who already did it

[pastel sky]

Isnt the achievement for the alt R1 which came in the same update as achievements?

[lost lynx]

No

[pastel sky]

Ik this game worked differently before with rundown selections

[lost lynx]

Achivements were added on Rundown 8

December 8th 2023

[slender flare]

give this to veruta trust

[naive rover]

Yeah but still like probably less than half of all players have ever beaten the first Rundown I’d imagine.

[gaunt nacelle]

50% is a lot less than 96%

[runic anvil]

yeah its like more than one more

[gaunt nacelle]

So true but I’m gonna touch you

[runic anvil]

not sure how that's relevant but sounds good

[naive rover]

I’m just trying to be semi optimistic

96% would be an insane number

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea and it’s kinda obviously untrue

[naive rover]

Right lol

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-bro-you're-getting-touched-tonight-gif-14870187556092555468

[naive rover]

I think I talked about this with you and Pablo once.

[runic anvil]

huzzah!

[gaunt nacelle]

Prolly

But I’ve heard stats that 1/4 of people who buy the game sticks around which sounds more plausible than 4%

[naive rover]

1/4th I could see

[gaunt nacelle]

I think I’ve seen Eva throw that number around

[naive rover]

I mean, there’s like 12 of you that actively still use the discord and maybe 30-40 that are in the VC’s lol

[rose mason]

I mean, if the % on the achievements are correct, then 25% makes sense

[gaunt nacelle]

They’re not at all

It’s deflated

[naive rover]

Yeah cause it doesn’t account for OG conpletions

How many people are there that completed OG rundowns that never continued on to Alt’s?

Like who knows?

[gaunt nacelle]

Even if someone beat the game or got super far before achievements were introduced their stuff like kill scout without it waking wouldn’t be counting

[naive rover]

Yep

[rose mason]

so only for gtfo or also games which starts with achievements? 🤔

[naive rover]

?

[gaunt nacelle]

Only games which add achievement after are deflated

Or well depends how they implement it

[rose mason]

this makes sense

[gaunt nacelle]

They could check if it’s been done

But I have also heard of tools which gives you achievements for free

[rose mason]

but I think barely anyone is using them because I don't think thateven 1% of gamers know about that

[gaunt nacelle]

Yep

[rose mason]

but it is interesting to see that after the achievements were implemented, not even 10% of the people have killed a scout without waking it up

and when I show beginners around, I always let them kill a scout even tho they mess up at the beginning

[gaunt nacelle]

The game is out of its prime but it does also seem slightly bugged?

Meh idk might be true

Because it’s essentially new scout kills/entire playerbase

[rose mason]

I see in pubs that they mostly shoot the scout

[gaunt nacelle]

I think shooting would also count? Idk

But yea shooting scouts is like kinda bad habits too

[gaunt nacelle]

Oh

[rose mason]

especially when they don't say that they gonna shoot and wake up the whole room

[gaunt nacelle]

Pub moments

Been thinking about getting a static team

Cuz these pubs holy

The mod situation is also kinda brazy ngl

[rose mason]

same, I still need to finish r7c3, bots are not that good on that mission 🥲

[gaunt nacelle]

I still have r5

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[tacit shoal]

team getting a new pc ACTUALLY makes you better

[tall hawk]

what if the game ran at 60fps

crazy thoughts

[tacit shoal]

its outrageous

[lost lynx]

Why

[tacit shoal]

idk

it just does

[runic anvil]

get me in there vro

once i’m able to actually play anyway

[gaunt nacelle]

Kinda hard to chose people ngl

I don’t wanna pick some over others

And I also don’t want a 6 stack cuz some might wanna play when others cant join

[runic anvil]

understandable

[gaunt nacelle]

Might just have two diff groups

[tacit shoal]

i dont think there is 7 people that play this game

[gaunt nacelle]

I counted, I can get 2 groups

[tacit shoal]

damn you are better at counting than me

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/devils-njdevils-gif-13914400

[runic anvil]

hai syntav :3

[tacit shoal]

haii dodo :33333

[runic anvil]

how goes it on this fine evening

[tacit shoal]

are you playing smth

[gaunt nacelle]

Everyone wants dodo to hop on 😭

[tacit shoal]

bro i just wanna play gtfo

tried to pub but NOONE joined

[gaunt nacelle]

Dead game

[tacit shoal]

yeah ik

[runic anvil]

especially yourself

not that i mind

:3

[gaunt nacelle]

Hop on this dick ha gottem

[gaunt nacelle]

Also attention wh*re

[runic anvil]

anyway i probs won’t be on tn sadly

[frozen olive]

get on r7e1

[tacit shoal]

e2 duo??

[runic anvil]

yeah that’s me core

[frozen olive]

no creep needs his r7e1

[outer cairn]

hi

[tacit shoal]

guhhh

fine

guhhhhhhhhhhh

[outer cairn]

YIPPEEEE

[gaunt nacelle]

I can’t wait to hear how syntax threw reactor

[tacit shoal]

i fixed my ethernet too

so im basically top 1

[frozen olive]

ok then hop in

[polar canopy]

Your group is on a 32 day streak! 🔥 Here are yesterday's results:
👑 2/6: @mellow hedge
4/6: @tall hawk
5/6: @tiny mist
6/6: @slender flare
X/6: @runic anvil

[river marlin]

its insane to me how this game is surviving on a 35 player count

[runic anvil]

i like gtfo :3

player count doesnt really matter to us i dont think

[river marlin]

i like it too but its dead sometimes

i dont find people to play with, thats the bad part

im just gonna hop on rocket league while i wait

lmao

[polar canopy]

KitsuDen and slendo [no mic version] [Fish] were playing

[lost lynx]

This game has 500-600 players on average daily on steam

[river marlin]

im from South america so the inside matchmaking takes like 30mins or more

[runic anvil]

ingame mm sucks ass tbf

[lost lynx]

Bro using ingame mm

[tacit shoal]

probably about 500 are not in the discord matchmaking system, so yeah, 35 players is about accurate

[polar canopy]

Tuho #bringbackmedia and TT22_moth (fish🐟) (mods reform) are playing

[outer cairn]

@frozen olive i KNOW you just missedd a shot

[tacit shoal]

shot?

[lost lynx]

Femboy spotted

[tacit shoal]

all 3 of us or what

[polar canopy]

Forsaken was playing

[sleek pelican]

I have a feeling I am just garbage at Wordle…

[real monolith]

gft os isa game

[tacit shoal]

nah

[real monolith]

o

[pine root]

You almost had it in 4

that is pretty good

[pastel dagger]

more like 200-500

[hasty bobcat]

sniper sentry run invalid

[polar canopy]

sky (partial mute !!) and Dodo_Druid were playing

[hasty bobcat]

i already did that one i forgor

[runic anvil]

huzzah!

[hasty bobcat]

big

[last parrot]

would you believe it if real actual gtfo clip from the coz

[runic anvil]

double foam my beloved

optimal

[lost lynx]

Double c*m

[gaunt nacelle]

Obviously you love to get cfoamed on

[frozen olive]

dont ask to see the sectors

[polar canopy]

Forsaken was playing

[sleek pelican]

NOOOO!!!

I am miserable at this game

[runic anvil]

damn right i do

anyway bedtime

i’ve got an audition to fuck up tmrw morning

good night y’all

[gaunt nacelle]

Gnight

[gaunt nacelle]

Gl hf

[polar canopy]

dymusFour [#1 Veruta Fan] was playing

[slender flare]

🥹

[hasty bobcat]

big

[polar canopy]

Makroo was playing

[mellow hedge]

"hey guys lets speedrun r5c3"

https://tenor.com/view/war-1000-yard-stare-gif-10147302364842942579

[pseudo sedge]

this level can go to 14:45... but fuck it

fuck this

horrible level

[split marlin]

not even sub 15

surely you all can do better than this

[junior latch]

[upper idol]

rhats what im sayin

speedrunners have gotten soft

[gaunt nacelle]

Too much seeded E2

[split marlin]

cant do well without seeded run tsk tsk

[mellow hedge]

so let me get this straight 🤔… you guys unironically thought this dude was a good player? 🤨😂

🗣️ YourMomGoSky is literally ♿ at this game 😂🔥🚷

[upper idol]

woahh did he really use ♿ as an insult? this guy is a total 💀 🐴

we should 😏 🤤 this 😳

[alpine scaffold]

Curious.
Is because of the lack of ammo or the length of the map?

Or other reason?

[mellow hedge]

next time 🗣️ maybe 👏 watch a hani guide 📖😉. actually 🗣️ try beating r4e1 duo 👫⚔️ (and no, your 2-hour clears 🕑🚫 don’t count lmao 🤡). and while you’re at it, stop 🗣️ seeding 🌱 your e2 clears 😂. everybody knows that level’s free 🗺️💡 once you’re not faking it 🧠. 👩‍🦯‍➡️ let me show you how it’s done step by step 👶.

[alpine scaffold]

I particularly like the mechanics of R5c3, but I think this map is exaggeratedly large.

[upper idol]

heh. not bad kid.

[pseudo sedge]

lack of ammo makes the level play like shit honestly, u need to just gamble that resources are on path otherwise the run turns horrible

u can barely full send

[hasty bobcat]

i always knew r5c3 is terrible

[graceful geode]

it was also a terrible introduction to double uplink (or corrupted uplinks, whatever you want to call them) back when it came out

A 100% new mechanic you had to go through what, 4 alarms, scouts, cscouts and very little ammo?

Bha

[modern verge]

my introduction to double uplinks myself was R7C3

when doing it on PE

nobody who did it knew it was a double uplink

admittedly not the worst introduction? since there was a checkpoint right before

[alpine scaffold]

What is worse
R5c3 as the first double uplink
R2d2 as the first reactor with code hunting

[lost lynx]

R5D1

[rose nova]

c3 by a long shot
if u lose on d2 by not knowing how to extract the log, u lose like 10 mins or less, and once u got it u barely have to know anything else to keep on doing it

c3 uplinks take a while more to get there, and are on complicated tiles

and if u misunderstand it u need to recover a fuck ton of time, resources and momentum

[split marlin]

r8e2 as your first e tier

[alpine scaffold]

Is r5b3 the first "room scan"?

[hasty bobcat]

I think so

c2 does it better even tho it's still not quite it

[mystic moss]

you gotta play og pre nerf r5c2 scan

when our only real boss kill was shotgun, sniper, and hel rifle

[gaunt nacelle]

@pure belfry

[pure belfry]

Why ping

🪵

[gaunt nacelle]

nvm thought it was floodways

[burnt flume]

having that much info breaks speedruns

[gaunt nacelle]

when i use logs to see artifacts in R1A1 💀

[burnt flume]

woah specialised artefact

[mellow hedge]

play logless then

[gaunt nacelle]

Logless sounds even worse ngl 🥀

[mellow hedge]

it is

logless on that level is horrible

[pure belfry]

My offer for speedrunning R5A1 Sec remains open

[burnt flume]

it may be cool if there was a middle ground between logless and every spawn on the map that told you where keys and some other stuff were but still left mystery all around, would be cooler if that was ran for years until a lot of stuff happened semi-recently

point being that the longstanding standard has been completely forced out and new shit imposed on top which dramatically changes how the runs are played

[mellow hedge]

wrong

[burnt flume]

yeah yeah whatever

good thing i have work to return to isn't it, much more pleasant

[mellow hedge]

im actually having a lot of fun speedrunning

[gaunt nacelle]

When it gets mapped

If*

[pure belfry]

i hope

[pseudo sedge]

we literally gambled for this stuff first day and it was horribly annoying, now it's just bearable.

it's so fun going for 10 boxes on route and nothing is ammo so we just die

[gaunt nacelle]

Average speed moment

[pseudo sedge]

literally grabbing every box on route and we still die because unlucky, one of the 2 ammos that we needed spawned in a room that is not on path

[mellow hedge]

unlike keys, if you dont get res you CANT win

[mellow hedge]

map it yourself

[gaunt nacelle]

As in the ossips or whatever they are

[mellow hedge]

yes

[gaunt nacelle]

Cuz idk how to correlate the number

To the spawn

Only crating maps

[mellow hedge]

the number in log will correlate to one box, so you just check which box the osip is in then write down the index

so you have to map the boxes first, THEN you do the seeds

[gaunt nacelle]

I thought they didn’t exist in logs?

[mellow hedge]

they do

itll be a long string of numbers

[gaunt nacelle]

Pain 😭

Might do it

[mellow hedge]

like r8b3 sec zone 33 a is
0 = 1009558016
1 = 863891456
2 = 1840989824
3 = 651540160
4 = 56161304
5 = 1001011840

it takes ages

r6d4 took me 4 hours

you only map actually feasible spawns

[gaunt nacelle]

Isn’t there a way to automate this?

Idk I might map but I feel like hours for one level like four people will run is bleh

[pseudo sedge]

not really

[pseudo sedge]

we've done worse

[gaunt nacelle]

Unfort

[mellow hedge]

actually tgb probably there is

if something showed the index and the seed number

you could just drop until they load

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea it’s whatever though ig

[mellow hedge]

instead of manually checking boxes

[pseudo sedge]

yes, there technically is, BUT it probably takes longer than just mapping the remaining 4-5 levels

[mellow hedge]

cause wesleys dll shows the box number like locker_843, and the log file has the same box number next to the seed

[junior latch]

or you have to play incredibly cautious, not because the run forces you to. But because you need to get the res and thus cant do the cool strat of full sending alarms

[pure belfry]

Uhm its plant samples

[gaunt nacelle]

Samesame

[sour kindle]

MY POOKIES

I AM BACK FROM THE DEAD

I FAWKING HATE MY THESIS GROUPMATES

[granite cairn]

did you have to carry them

[junior latch]

Fun fact
Tgb actually has artifact spawns mapped for r5c3

For whatever reason

[gaunt nacelle]

Instead of mapping actual important stuff he maps artifacts 🥀

[mellow hedge]

if he dont map artifacts then we dont get res maybe

[junior latch]

prolly

still funny

that is the real „too much info“

fucking 30 artifacts and more shit in the list

[mellow hedge]

average

[runic anvil]

perfect for when i get on my glow stick booster arc

[split marlin]

Just play seeded speed

Ezclap

[mellow hedge]

same thing surely

[tall hawk]

at this point kinda

you know where everything is anyways

[mystic moss]

hiii tofu

[mellow hedge]

surely

[tall hawk]

surely you explain why you think it's not

[mystic moss]

seeded is clearly not the same as logs

logs doesn't tell you where the room enemies spawn

[junior latch]

the biggest difference from knowledge aside (which theres still a bunch of things that impact what youd do that arent known) is that you get 1 attempt to run the level with whatever seed you got

As tutorial is the closest to seeded (only having changed position on res and orientation on enemies lol), its a decent showcase for how seeded would look vs how runs are now

[mellow hedge]

the start of my e2 solo runs became boring af because it was literally just the same shit over and over

im not gonna argue shit im so fucking sick of it

[split marlin]

not yet

[mystic moss]

soon we will have a weapon to surpass even metal gear

[mellow hedge]

ngl i dont think that is ever going to happen

i think we are at the peak

[frozen olive]

enemy spawn locations wouldnt even change anything notable time wise outside of like e2 maybe

[hoary crescent]

tell that to my solo r3d1 runs

[pure belfry]

tell that to R8C2 Z277

[frozen olive]

can you guys stop making up levels i only play e tiers

[mellow hedge]

wait this kinda fire

[gaunt nacelle]

I’ll super log ur address

[frozen olive]

my new logger will tell you the exact sequence of inputs to get wr

[mellow hedge]

the new logger is just ai that tells you the lines for a script which plays the level for you

[sullen finch]

new logger seeds a perfect run and then does a TAS for you

[junior latch]

we need the TAS run

[mellow hedge]

i was actually gonna do a tutorial TAS

[frozen olive]

TAS for this game would be fun to see

[junior latch]

thats incredibly hard sadly

tutorial tas is already lots of work and thats basically seeded

[mellow hedge]

enemy ai variation makes TASing cooked

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-gif-4205957412473656976

[burnt flume]

oh i missed a bunch of the stuff, ah well

fact of the matter is that the gap between logs for keys/objective room (HSU/uplink)/gather items and seed indexing for every relevant spawn is just as large, if not larger, than the gap from logless to logs

it dramatically changes how the game plays

and ostensibly there's no way to figure out such stuff from reading the log whereas 36_Area = Room A and 35_Area = Room B is something you could pick up on in vivo with the text reference from logs

and the difference the knowledge makes in the runs should qualify it to be marked separately on the leaderboards, imo

i don't know if it'd be wanted or in the spirit of the game to know, if that's an argument in the first place, and i don't believe the devs would have ever changed logs so it's all discernible with the naked eye, nor was there any push from anyone to do such a thjng

[frozen olive]

im not very involved with the speedrunning scene but i dont see why it hasnt been divided into seeded/logs/logless

[mellow hedge]

There is no seeded caregory, and logless and logs are seperate now

[burnt flume]

because "seeded" doesn't exist yet

its "seed indexing" which is reading the game in a way you couldn't feasibly do by hand which tells you near enough everything you want to know if it's been set up

[frozen olive]

oh im stupid i read that wrong

[burnt flume]

which is taken as being the same as "logs"

but you can absolutely not do the same with a log file in vivo as you can with a seed indexer

[mellow hedge]

Obviously not, but you are just drawing an arbitrary line

What about things like osips?

Why is the line not drawn there?

Literally all the logs give you is a seed number for the collectible

[burnt flume]

which consistently correlates to a box, yes?

all they give you for the the uplink room is a number

hsu, just a number

key box, just a number

unless i'm missing something

[mellow hedge]

And in a session seed which you get from the logs, a certain part of that seed consistently correlates to the same thing

This is how wesley originally did seedindexer

You find out what part of the seed does what, and you can consistently know res spawns, heavy pickups, etc

Lemme find i simplified image rq that kenny showed me

actually idek if this is simplified

[gaunt nacelle]

this is kinda how i imagined it

[mellow hedge]

I dont think any of this warrants insults, attacks and accusations though don't you think?

[unreal crystal]

what about lying

[mellow hedge]

About what?

[burnt flume]

ah well, if i may be selfish again, in gameplay i care about "monkey see" and "monkey do", once you get to "monkey spreadsheet" you lose me

[mellow hedge]

That is why we have split the categories, which is what was requested at the start and what the issue was in the first place

Of which i was a huge advocate for

[gaunt nacelle]

afaik this is what R6A1 solo speed became ngl

[mellow hedge]

And anyone who has ran r6a1 solo knows how actually horrible rolling for ammo is and is very glad the massive rng has been reduced

We started writing down seeds on spreadsheets because it was so bad

[gaunt nacelle]

^

[burnt flume]

savitrue wins without that ammopack

[mellow hedge]

He was recording seeds

Also, he had an ammo pack

[river marlin]

we need XQC to play this game with his braindead logic, it would be magical

[latent palm]

can u carry me in E2 rn

[mellow hedge]

sorry i dont like impossible challenges

[latent palm]

great

[gaunt nacelle]

he wouldnt understand anything

[mellow hedge]

TRUE

[river marlin]

yes

[gaunt nacelle]

i lowkey dont think he got time lol

[river marlin]

thats the point

[latent palm]

blud bout to sleep ik

[mellow hedge]

Just want to ask again

[gaunt nacelle]

nah he about to do some bingo

[latent palm]

damn he old

[gaunt nacelle]

he grown

[mellow hedge]

what is sleep

[river marlin]

i play some bingo to catch some grannies, we are not the same

[tall hawk]

nice

[latent palm]

fym grown

[river marlin]

[latent palm]

mf aint half a day past 22

[gaunt nacelle]

idk im gonna be doing bingo with him

[latent palm]

also hi tuho

[mellow hedge]

losing*

[gaunt nacelle]

against*

my team doesnt even have all levels unlocked

[mellow hedge]

LOL

unfort

[gaunt nacelle]

thats who ur playing against btw

[tall hawk]

beat the first alarm in R8E2

can't play the level

[gaunt nacelle]

first alarm is ez just doorbug and let the time run out

[mellow hedge]

im actually surprised that there isnt a mod that just unlocks all the levels

[tall hawk]

you see I was making a joke about you not having the level unlocked

[mellow hedge]

@gaunt nacelle maybe quickly ask in the modding server

[split marlin]

im pretty sure it exists

[gaunt nacelle]

nah we built diff

[split marlin]

the archive iirc does it

[mellow hedge]

what do you not have unlocked

[gaunt nacelle]

not afaik?

[split marlin]

the r2modman version

[gaunt nacelle]

half of R5 bacisly and half of R7 and half of R8 :3

[mellow hedge]

rip

[split marlin]

i found the option but its borked when i tested it

[gaunt nacelle]

do we play with this 🤔

[split marlin]

hikaria version

[gaunt nacelle]

bruh theres two archives?

smh

[tall hawk]

the Hikaria version is right there

[gaunt nacelle]

also yea it is

lol

[mellow hedge]

i dmd auri. shes getting it working lmao

she said "a few minutes"

[latent palm]

@pliant viper

[gaunt nacelle]

vro 😭

we didnt need it

its so fine though

[pliant viper]

[split marlin]

gtfo r9 looking good

[polar canopy]

[🪵] No1 Frosty #bringbackmedia was playing

[runic anvil]

had to use 3 tries

smh my head

frosty fell off

[mellow hedge]

go suck a boob

[runic anvil]

aye aye

🫡

[gaunt nacelle]

where boob

[runic anvil]

wouldnt you liek to know

[gaunt nacelle]

where bob

[pseudo sedge]

no bob

only blahaj

[runic anvil]

need both tbh

[burnt flume]

not flexible enough to do that

[runic anvil]

so true

[gaunt nacelle]

the humble straw or smth idk

[runic anvil]

uh huh

spoken like a guy whose never sucked boob before

[gaunt nacelle]

😔

just cuz im lonely

[split marlin]

suck your homie's boob

[gaunt nacelle]

they dont allow it 😔

[split marlin]

offer them a deal

let them such yours

[gaunt nacelle]

they already do

[runic anvil]

get me over there stat

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[mellow hedge]

tinder always exists

the quality might not be great tho

[gaunt nacelle]

id rather play R5B2 pubs only

[runic anvil]

grindr :3

[gaunt nacelle]

refer to my previous statement

[runic anvil]

but you could find femboys

[gaunt nacelle]

i got what i wanted already 🔥

[runic anvil]

real shit :3

[pseudo sedge]

bro that's like saying france exists

[pure belfry]

moth’s DMs exist

[runic anvil]

im well aware

[unreal crystal]

l

[vapid solstice]

R5B3 secondary was quite the scare

@gaunt nacelle one of our best clips so far

[sullen finch]

spear burst pr 🤢

[vapid solstice]

who asked bro

[runic anvil]

optimal, idk what you’re on about :3

[sullen finch]

burst and pr arent horrible bit spear is objectively bad

[runic anvil]

counterpoint: penetrating sleepers from behind

[gaunt nacelle]

nice one

[vapid solstice]

man who cares

[near stag]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-the-one-who-asked-meme-devil-general-akuma-chojin-akuma-shogun-gif-4542586503918359891

[sullen finch]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[vapid solstice]

The way he ducked the second we shot 😭

[burnt flume]

burst rifle is good wdym

[pastel sky]

GTFO is officially killing my friendship bru

[mystic moss]

sounds about right

1 in 4 retention rate...

[pastel sky]

Lit no one wants to play this shit game after R2C2 lost at the end chase

Three times by now

We cannot beat a single level for over a week and it's a C tier

[gaunt nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[gaunt nacelle]

Go to d1

[pastel sky]

Its that like

Even worse

[mystic moss]

umm there's no error alarm

[gaunt nacelle]

It’s not really

[mystic moss]

it's pretty stealth intensive ig

[mellow hedge]

If you arent having fun or something with a rundown/level, just move on to something else

[gaunt nacelle]

^

[pastel sky]

Error alarm is kind of nothing for us rn

[gaunt nacelle]

Like even going to r3 is an option

[pastel sky]

We all almost always hit head shots with knives at this point

[mystic moss]

oh what are you dying too then if it's not the error lol

[pastel sky]

Its just the fog and the last chase sequence

[gaunt nacelle]

Giant spam at the end

[gaunt nacelle]

Btw there’s a disinfect station

[mystic moss]

umm you can just hole up in a room with mines and one scattergun

clear the finite amount of giants and then extract safely?

[pastel sky]

Not actual like

Lupus

But not being able to see anything

Even with turbine we either find nothing

[gaunt nacelle]

Bio tracker :3

[pastel sky]

Or we get run over by then

[mystic moss]

you shouldn't be in the fog zone during the giant wave tbh

[pastel sky]

That yes but we also cannot find anything in it

Its just too much fog and even after we find ids it takes us so long

We either run out of hp or we do smth stupid and start just insulting each other

[pine root]

Do you know where the terminal is in each id zone

[pastel sky]

That is what I meant by friendship ruining lol

[pastel sky]

We know 2

113 and 114

[pine root]

So atm what you need to do

[pastel sky]

Till then we have no idea

[pine root]

Is fine 116 then 119

Maybe 115

And brain off terminal every round

[frozen olive]

you are running bio right

[pine root]

Surely

[pastel sky]

We do

[gaunt nacelle]

bio is the worst tool ||for solo||

[frozen olive]

like you could even bring two bios (for this level this doesnt apply to most) or just have your bio player ping better

[pine root]

Ngl

Two bios is based for every level

[mellow hedge]

me when long kite

[gaunt nacelle]

long kite into mines ez

[pine root]

I can’t shoot things unless I have triangles

[mystic moss]

i mean if they route correctly then they shouldn't be in fog zone during giant wave

they either loot 114 ids before doing the class ii

[frozen olive]

how do i clear r1c1 then you need two shotgun sentries for the killbox and foam so they cant get past it

[mystic moss]

or they loot 114 ids after all the blood doors 116/118(?) have been done

[mellow hedge]

can i take the bio tracker please im colourblind

[pastel sky]

We loot 114 and then we try do 116 or 118

[mystic moss]

do u do 119 at all? it's the zone in the beginning with a blood door and requires a key to access

[pastel sky]

We try to back track to it if we need to do it

What we do is at start

[pine root]

It is a safe zone to do

[pastel sky]

We just list all ids

And see where they are

And then try do the zones we get the most ids

Like try get as least amount of new zones to get to 7 ids and just leave

[mystic moss]

oh ok sounds like u just need to lock in for one clear then

rip friendship

[pastel sky]

Idk half of the ppl I play with just went

"im done this shi is impossible"

Rage quit and now I have no idea what to do

[mellow hedge]

🦐

[junior latch]

not the "its impossible"

[pastel sky]

Its just cope I alredy know that

We are like lit at the end

And we get destroyed

The game really feels like its trolling us right now

[junior latch]

the first alarm honestly is the biggest hurdle in the level if you get used to the constant trickle of enemies

[mystic moss]

can u even play the game with the discord lfg if you've pirated the game

[granite cairn]

yep

[mystic moss]

oh ok so you might have to do that if you lose your friends

glgl

[granite cairn]

it all depends where he got the pirated version

[pastel sky]

They are mega malding right now

Its cuz 1 of my friends game crashed twice in the fog part

And we got railed

Cuz he was the guy with bio

[outer cairn]

Ouch

That sucks

[mystic moss]

you'll get the clear pretty soon

it's only a 30 minute commitment :D

[granite cairn]

what mission again?

[mystic moss]

r2c2

[granite cairn]

yep

its only 30 min commitment

the only hurdle is the 1st door alarm

[split marlin]

real

just move on from gtfo

[pastel sky]

The more I play this game, the more I feel rtrded cuz we keep loosing at the end bruh

[mystic moss]

yeah it's a difficult game unfortunately

[split marlin]

take only the minimum amount of id from the fog zone

use terminal to see which zone you have to go in

if youre playing quad its pretty easy to defend the guy on terminal

youll have to just get a bit good with knife

and ending giant spam is just 2 mines and a large door

[mellow hedge]

My entire life revolves around gtfo, if i quit i might as well jump into traffic

[split marlin]

r5b2pe is like jumping into traffic already

[pastel sky]

We always play quad now cuz I got more ppl into the game

[split marlin]

error wave is like 4 sleepers

2 ppl can easily handle them with knife

3 if youre scared

[pastel sky]

Sleeper dog waves we alredy learned how to deal with but its mostly just the fog where we loose too much hp

[split marlin]

your bio guy needs to step up

[pure belfry]

[split marlin]

i dont even know where the term of that zone is

[pastel sky]

No he needs to fucking fix his pc cuz he keeps crashing

[split marlin]

i just systematically walk through every room to find the id

we played true duo and has no bio

[pastel sky]

By systemically you just mean

Memorize the whole fog maze part

[split marlin]

i already know the tile since its a common one

but i just walk literally in grid

the entire room

we did it after getting disinfected and resupply from the zone beyond tho

and checking how many id we need to grab

[pure belfry]

I don’t even check Z114 as I get there, I just book it to Z115, disinfect, and use the terminal there and get res from Z116/Z117, much safer than staying in Z114

[split marlin]

i assumed thats how everyone does it

[pure belfry]

I hope so; it’s the general best way to do it

It was a huge wall for my main playgroup when we got there initially

how incredibly far we’ve come since then

[pastel sky]

Idk what we thought was the best is just stall the least and do shortest paths cuz then we would do less rtrded things and end our runs

[pure belfry]

Stalling the alarm to 115 isn’t a bad idea tbf

[split marlin]

its class two

you just shut the door and do the scan before booking it up the fog

[pure belfry]

hey @gaunt nacelle how bad can class II alarms be with trash scan rng

[gaunt nacelle]

Böh?

Like not super bad ig

[pure belfry]

Did you forgor our Class II incident

[gaunt nacelle]

Probably

[pure belfry]

The Class II on the way to Z115 can be pretty tame most times but it is capable of multi-level scans similar to the first class III and it wastes significantly more time even if you had shut the doors and mined em

[split marlin]

is there even a term in the res zone

i couldnt find it

[gaunt nacelle]

Idek which level ngl

[split marlin]

r2c2

[gaunt nacelle]

Class 2 is a like 10% chance of being able to ruin ur run

Class 3 is like a 10% it’s guaranteed to not ruin ur run

[split marlin]

class 3 is ass

the hardest part of the lvl

amazing pen line tho

[pastel sky]

Class 3 spawns are so bad

But somehow we are kind of consistent on it

We just hope a giant doesn't scope us from the fuckin stairs

And if he does, its an akward restart

[pure belfry]

Stev

[pastel sky]

Yeah?

[pure belfry]

For additional lore context, this mission is basically you picking up where another team of prisoners left off

The interrupted comms (before and while dropping in) provide insight where they failed

[gaunt nacelle]

At least the spear user swapped amirite

[pastel sky]

I still hate running 4 knifes on the mission but there is 0 other options cuz there is almost no enemies you can even stealth

[gaunt nacelle]

Why do you hate it?

[pastel sky]

Except fat people at 118 and that ends to them getting shot cuz there is alredy waves

[pastel sky]

I just tickle enemies with it

If I dont 1 tpa the head

I gotta do it 4 more times and in that time I get floored

And that happens alot

[gaunt nacelle]

You said you got good at one tapping heads though?

[pastel sky]

Mostly by me taking a 50 caliber

[gaunt nacelle]

Have teammates around you

[pure belfry]

Z118 is fine to enter but I prefer to loot Z117 first for res

Also there’s no term in Z117

Z116 is the death trap

[pastel sky]

This mission we def get downed the most

Like not fully run ending its kinda getting close to R1C1

But we just get floored constantly

[split marlin]

how does that work with r7/8

[pure belfry]

Some comms are us (Woods and team), and other comms are other teams

[split marlin]

how can we see comm when r8 are impossible to have other teams before us

[pure belfry]

shrug

[last parrot]

legit or no?

[gaunt nacelle]

It’s Nelson Mandela

[last parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[pure belfry]

A good example of comms being us is ||R5E1, it literally can’t be other teams because we’ve been the ones restoring power and network access the entire rundown, definitely no one else has been to KDS Deep in a long time||

[last parrot]

ok im gonna go get this guy banned now

[gaunt nacelle]

Good luck, only way to get banned is to be called Sam db

[last parrot]

aw shucks

[pastel sky]

I wonder what all the R2C2 stuff has to do with later R2 levels