gtfo-chat

[pastel sky]

like side code

stuff like XO1

id be putting that and I fucked it

then we learned

and it was much easier

[runic anvil]

well that'll help for c1 :3

[pastel sky]

thanks for spoil

ty very much

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[runic anvil]

oh dont worry

there's a couple other uh

fun things pertaining to this level

[pastel sky]

Okay I thought that would be the main thing

[runic anvil]

oh uplink is the objective

just not that simple

[pastel sky]

Also the bio of R2B4 we aint playing rn cuz we are tired from the last mission

It is saying something for like infection thing yes?

Is it like cancer only level

[runic anvil]

imma quick hyperlink to the level so i can look, dont click it lol

[[R2B4]]

[crude verge]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/R2B4

[pastel sky]

Trust me in this whole serv

I don't press a single fuckin wiki link

[runic anvil]

good conditioning

[pastel sky]

If its by a bot I just think like it doesn't even exist

[runic anvil]

this level is not the most fun iirc

[pure belfry]

:(

[runic anvil]

but you're not wrong about the infection thing

[pastel sky]

Bro I aint gettin spoiled

[pastel sky]

We will def have fun with perma cancer

[runic anvil]

yeah it certainly looks like there will be a lot to have fun with

oh actually i think i might remember this level

its pretty straightforward but its just a lot of shit

[pastel sky]

I like to not ask for ppl to tell me the objective cuz thne they tell me the whole answer

I like going blind and seeing the mechanic like the generator one where there are like ones that you cannot use

So you have to find a specific one and use terminals more

[rose nova]

in r2 theres enemies :O

[runic anvil]

understandable

[runic anvil]

spoilerss!!!!!

[rose nova]

:3

[runic anvil]

flag spoileres

[pastel sky]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh shi mb forgot about that

[rose nova]

🇲🇽

oh no that flag

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[runic anvil]

😱 😱 😱

[pastel sky]

How bad does r2 get

Cuz btw we are still clearing b missions cuz they are actual fun and not torture

[runic anvil]

so c tiers are going to be a bit rough

[pastel sky]

If its not a fucking reactor its beatable after few tries

[runic anvil]

new mechanics but overall shouldn't take you more than a few attempts each assuming you adjust

[pastel sky]

After we adapt like caveman

To the new mechs

[runic anvil]

c-tiers, fine

d-tiers?

thats where things start to get uh

interesting

[pastel sky]

Wait there is more than 1 d tier?

[runic anvil]

d1 and d2 :3

[pastel sky]

We are fucked

[runic anvil]

oh have you looked a little lower in the hierarchy?

theres an e-tier in this rundown

:3

[pastel sky]

My like goal of GTFO atleast with my friends

Is just beat every single rundown

[runic anvil]

thats a good goal

[pastel sky]

Now we haven't done a single E tier level so I have no idea how bad they get

[runic anvil]

i wont lie

[pastel sky]

Do like bosses start spawning at that point?

[runic anvil]

you're going to probably want to go complete r3 before doing r2e1

and maybe a chunk of r4 too

bc r2e1 is vicious

[pastel sky]

Okay its THAT bad

[hoary crescent]

me when vicious

[pastel sky]

I don't like that

[runic anvil]

hai lakana :3

[hoary crescent]

sup

[runic anvil]

how goes it?

[hoary crescent]

pgood

just about to lift

[runic anvil]

good to hear

[pastel sky]

Is the E tier like a reactor and that is why it's that bad or

[runic anvil]

nah

[pastel sky]

Cuz we 100%struggled on R1C1 the most so far

[runic anvil]

no spoilers for the rest of the rundown

[pastel sky]

And cuz we had 2 fuckin bots

[hoary crescent]

the E tier is a reactor that starts another reactor

[pastel sky]

I got 3 more friends in the game which is really good

[hoary crescent]

it's actually three reactors

[pastel sky]

So I aint getting dogs

[rose nova]

out 83 missions R2E1 is about the fifth hardest level

[pastel sky]

Okay WTF

That is malicious

[runic anvil]

but r2e1 introduces about three new mechanics that are very very very difficult

[rose nova]

russian doll of reactor

[runic anvil]

esp for first time players

[hoary crescent]

when you finish it you have to immidiately do r2e2 which is another reactor

[pure belfry]

I will say that when you eventually encounter them, Checkpoints break/cheese some objectives and there is therefore a huge difference between not using vs using checkpoints

[pastel sky]

I feel like R2E1 is gonna make me hate the game

[runic anvil]

instead of extract it just throwws you down into e2

[pastel sky]

We will see

[runic anvil]

its not a bad level

[hoary crescent]

indeed

[runic anvil]

just a huge difficulty jump from d2 to e1

[hoary crescent]

e tiers usually take up to 4 hours

trust

[pastel sky]

Wait whoa

How do checkpoints work in this game?

[runic anvil]

dont worry vro

checkpoints happen in r6

[pastel sky]

We haven't gotten a checkpoint once after R1A1

[pure belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-part-that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-thing-invincible-omni-man-gif-7277187862328919884

[runic anvil]

you ain't gotta worry about that

[hoary crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/headpats-gif-18218266808223957213

[pastel sky]

How tf do they work

[hoary crescent]

wrong gif team

[runic anvil]

badly

[pastel sky]

Can you like set them

[pure belfry]

not well

[pastel sky]

To appear

[pure belfry]

no

[runic anvil]

its like r1a1 door

[pure belfry]

Even on R1A1 the checkpoint can break the level lol

[pastel sky]

Cuz like R1A1 has 1 CHECKPOINT

And then every other hell mission has nothing by now

[runic anvil]

r2-r5 have no checkpoints

[pastel sky]

Like I forgot that is a thing bgl

[runic anvil]

lmao

[hoary crescent]

what if you were my checkpoint

[runic anvil]

🥺

[pastel sky]

OKAY

That is not good

[runic anvil]

peak game design

[pure belfry]

In R1A1 the checkpoint can make it such that when you scan the HSU it counts as extract and you win instantly

[runic anvil]

anyway they were implemented really poorly and cause a fuckload of issues

[pure belfry]

yep

[runic anvil]

thats fucking hilarious

[pastel sky]

Obviously the easier fuckin rundowns don't have any checkpoints

[runic anvil]

i've never heard of that

[pastel sky]

So you cant learn unless you perish in middle of a 1 hour mission

[hoary crescent]

guys why is my money I invested not tripling up already

[runic anvil]

no r6 is one ofthe easiest

[pastel sky]

Awesome designing

[hoary crescent]

Where's my 100x

[pastel sky]

Thought the game gets way worse on those newer rundowns

[runic anvil]

r7 - r8 get more difficult

[lost lynx]

Actually R4 and R5 are kinda hard

[pastel sky]

That checks off 1 rundown atleast

[runic anvil]

r4 is long and r5 is yucky

[split marlin]

5 is the one that beats you up

4 is long but not that bad

[runic anvil]

r5 routinely makes me want to end it all

[pastel sky]

How many E tier missions are in game?

83 is all of them right

[runic anvil]

5

[lost lynx]

5

[pastel sky]

Okay its not that bad

[split marlin]

6

[lost lynx]

We don't count R8E1

[split marlin]

ppl forgetting r8e1

[lost lynx]

That's not an E tier

[pastel sky]

I feel like we could prob beat everything up to D tiers

[split marlin]

[frozen olive]

id recommend doing r3 if you get stuck on the r2 d tiers as well as the r3 a tiers are good intros to those

[runic anvil]

perchance lmfao

[pastel sky]

Personally or??

[runic anvil]

you're so right

[pastel sky]

Is it easy or

[lost lynx]

It's a C tier difficulty level

[split marlin]

its fake e tier

[gaunt nacelle]

R5B1 pe 💀

[lost lynx]

It's not an E tier difficulty level

[pastel sky]

Fuck you I am not doing anything on side

[runic anvil]

we dont talk about r5 in this household

but if you wanna play it with me id be down 🥺

[pastel sky]

I just wanna do main missions cuz I feel like secondary's are just flex and prob makes the game enter hell difficulty

[gaunt nacelle]

Rather spin some killers

[runic anvil]

sometimes yes, it can bump difficulty up a tier or two

[lost lynx]

In R4/R5 the extra objectives ARE the level

[split marlin]

r4 is the optional rundown

[pure belfry]

To summarize without spoiling: Checkpoints basically don't check the index of your objective progress properly. It's not at all easy to fix either, and the checkpoint doesn't check that clients got all of the correct data on saving/reloading from it. Huge problem at times for the speedrunners, and during normal gameplay they can give you credit for completing objectives early on some select missions.

They can cause a host of other issues too like invisible doors, not being able to interact with some pickups or door panels (host only), sound glitches, bots positively bricking to the point where all they do is just walk around... I could go on.

[split marlin]

if you dont do optional the lvl is like 10 min long

[runic anvil]

r4a3 main 🔥

[pastel sky]

Okay I aint reading yet is this a spoiler

[runic anvil]

no its not

[pastel sky]

If it is fuck you

Okay good

[runic anvil]

just how checkpoints work

[pure belfry]

it literally says without spoiling lol

[lost lynx]

💀

Dumb

[split marlin]

r4a3 sec 🔥

[pastel sky]

I didnt wanna read a single word sorry brother

Lol

[frozen olive]

if your goal to is to beat every rundown id recommend doing all optionals

[runic anvil]

i really love walking around in pitch black darkness

[pure belfry]

I mean you asked how they work

[runic anvil]

makes me feel right at home

[pure belfry]

Checkpoints are OK for learning. I really wish they worked better and didn't cause so many volatile things to happen

[pastel sky]

Basically checkpoints alr don't appear anywhere and don't work properly so they just suck

[split marlin]

lvl that should have checkpoitns dont and lvl that do are easy and short asf

[pastel sky]

That is what we will use em for mostly if they ever fuckin appear

[frozen olive]

shout out the r1a1 checkpoint that barely helps

[pure belfry]

They "work properly" in that you can usually restart and still continue. I have had the game freeze on checkpoint restart though... your mileage will vary a lot

[lost lynx]

CPs are in R6+

[split marlin]

like r4 would benefit from having checkpoints for how mindnumbingly long they are

[runic anvil]

checkpoints arent really optional, you can choose whether you want to start at that point or if you want to play fromthe start

[runic anvil]

what's in r6??

[frozen olive]

i wish they were opt in not opt out

[lost lynx]

Checkpoints

[split marlin]

hanks dont abbreviate checkpoints

[pure belfry]

In terms of speedrunning, simply doing the bioscan for a checkpoint has proven as a source of desync in some spots (the biggest example I've heard is Kenny host)

[split marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hank-walter-screaming-walter-yelling-gif-26473309

[lost lynx]

I'm going to abbreviate cyberpunk next

[pure belfry]

not even restarting from it. Just doing the bioscan to have the data save

[runic anvil]

😱

[pastel sky]

Good thing I am not speedrun this shit hell difficulty game

[runic anvil]

speedrunning is fun lwk

[frozen olive]

desync doesnt only matter for speedruns

[lost lynx]

You can speed Deez btw

[runic anvil]

run around and bonk shit as fast as you can

[split marlin]

but yeah

do optionals

[lost lynx]

Why

[split marlin]

they are the highlight of most lvls that have them

[pure belfry]

that is why we have PointBlank nowadays if you really want. No more checkpoint data save

🕴️

(you still have to do the bioscans for them though as if you did)

[pastel sky]

Yeah but like shit gets devious in the game and you have alot of wait times like the prev mission all you do is sit still and just type in code

[split marlin]

r4/5 main only is 💤

[pastel sky]

If there is like nothing stopping you

Like no wait times

Speedrun feels yk fast

[lost lynx]

You can do an uplink in less than a minute or two

[pastel sky]

But if you gotta wait for a single shit door to open like it goes from 100 to 0

[frozen olive]

you still have to do scans fast

[runic anvil]

the humble r4c1 sec uplink:

[lost lynx]

R8B3

[runic anvil]

i wouldnt know

i'll take your word for it

[split marlin]

r8b3 is so forgettable i just couldnt remember a single thing about it

tbf it got completely overshadowed by r8b4

[frozen olive]

i think its pretty good its just the middle segment is kind of meh

[lost lynx]

B4 on release was extremely funny

[granite cairn]

"Im on the top of the world" type of uplink

[pastel sky]

Okay but lowkey how tf yall remember almost 83 levels of this game

[split marlin]

me guessing terminal password so that there is only one valid spawn point:

[runic anvil]

most levels have a "gimmick"

[pastel sky]

Like I dont think I even remember what is the main objective of any R1 mission except maybe b tiers and R1C1 lol

[runic anvil]

helps make distinctions

also we play it a lot lol

[split marlin]

you dont really remember all the lvls

its just a few that we talk about a lot

[frozen olive]

i can remember most levels atp

[split marlin]

(famous and infamous)

[pastel sky]

I feel like I won't open the game moment we beat R8E2

[pure belfry]

I am the resident wiki archivist/scholar, if you ask me what a random mission is I will be able to tell you what the objective is, try one from a mission youve already done

[lost lynx]

I only remember the ones where I wanted to jump off a bridge

[frozen olive]

for a while i wasnt able to remember the r4 and r5 b tiers but people hate on them enough for me to remember them

[runic anvil]

to each their own

[pastel sky]

OKAY you atleast work at the wiki so that is fair

[runic anvil]

i think the game is fun enough to justify playing after beating each base game level

[split marlin]

also if you got stuck on a mission for more than 2 hours you start to remember everything about it

[runic anvil]

true

[frozen olive]

also the fact the level names are very simple (not the words the stuff like r5b4) and that theyre divided between rundowns helps

[split marlin]

r4 b tier:

[runic anvil]

not to mention that beating every level is going to take a long ass time as is

[pastel sky]

I feel like I am not scitzo enough to like actively beat E tier levels but we will like almost 100% try do R8E2 because it is the end of the game mission

Its supposed to be this epic gauntlet of hell mission

[frozen olive]

if you cant beat the other e tiers you probably cant beat r8e2

[runic anvil]

yeah we'll see about that

[frozen olive]

dont bring up spiff

[lost lynx]

Almost every enemy is in E2 so yeah

It is a gauntlet

[runic anvil]

once you get good (hopefully) you want to beat e tier missions

[pastel sky]

I didnt watch the R8E2 vid but I like that ytber

[split marlin]

im lowkey sad that the second half of r8 isnt just e-tier gauntlet

[runic anvil]

r8e5 🔥

[split marlin]

e2 being the only f tier would be 🔥

[frozen olive]

rundown 6 if it was peak

[runic anvil]

so true

[pastel sky]

I mean they are all fully different with diff mechanics and they are all equally scitzo so idk

I feel like if we ever do R8E2 and actually beat it its gonna be like my biggest achievement in gaming I've ever done

[runic anvil]

as far as im aware, most vets of this game consider the e tiers to be the most fun out of all the levels in the game

[split marlin]

the humble r7d2

[runic anvil]

i personally cant vouch one way or another cus im washed but

[pastel sky]

Because surely players like hell

[runic anvil]

nah bc players like a challenge

[lost lynx]

Except R7E1 and R8E1

[frozen olive]

yeah my top 3 has r8e2 r5e1 and r4e1

[pastel sky]

I mean aren't like E tiers made to be almost impossible cuz how scitzo the mechanics get?

[split marlin]

they went to great length to hide the second half

[frozen olive]

and then r2e1 is in or just outside of the top 5

[runic anvil]

no

[lost lynx]

No

[runic anvil]

just very difficult

[split marlin]

but they didnt go all out except e2

[pastel sky]

At some point we may just get silent and lock in

[lost lynx]

They are very doable if the player is decent

[runic anvil]

you actually have to get good at the game

[runic anvil]

i would not go silent

communication is important

[pastel sky]

That is why

We just get wreck so badly from the game we just don't care and loose

[lost lynx]

my team talking about random stuff mid alarm

[split marlin]

silent% e2 completion 🔥

[runic anvil]

no thats understandable

[pastel sky]

Yk why? That happened exactly when we tried doing caretaker haz5 2x4,basically we just get so done with the game we stop caring

[runic anvil]

i think that the less seriously you can take the game the better

[burnt flume]

they throw a lot more stuff at you, but the game is not very mechanically complex

[runic anvil]

bc you're less likely to tilt

[pastel sky]

Dude we talk random shit 24/7 like 10% is actually about gtfo mostly

[runic anvil]

good

[burnt flume]

more that it asks you to have knowledge and play reasonably well

[hoary crescent]

some people here have over 2k or 3k hours in the game

[analog flicker]

[hoary crescent]

if you pub for fun you're just bound to remember levels

[analog flicker]

2k-3k is on the lower spectrum of long time players

[pine root]

Let’s goo

[burnt flume]

i've been here

[pine root]

I am the lower spectrum

[burnt flume]

since og r5

[hoary crescent]

pub

[burnt flume]

not the discord, but the game

and i don't have 2300 yet

[pine root]

Cringe

[hoary crescent]

insane pub

[burnt flume]

i only joined the discord in r7

[pastel sky]

I barely have any

[runic anvil]

yeah

[pastel sky]

Some missions would take like 45 mins to complete in 1 tries even

I haven't even replayed a single mission

[hoary crescent]

fair enough

[runic anvil]

get the game on steam so i can play with you

[pastel sky]

Even tho I dropped 3

[runic anvil]

so you can get good

[pastel sky]

Count em THREE

People without them even seeing R1

[hoary crescent]

wait where does he have the game on what

[analog flicker]

hm didn't realize Hange broke 6k hours

[hoary crescent]

not on steam?

[runic anvil]

pirated 🔥

[pastel sky]

Shut up

Don't worry

I got my backup

[hoary crescent]

oh

that's not good

[pastel sky]

I aint doin with randoms anyways like

[runic anvil]

no not at all

[hoary crescent]

just buy it it's cheap

[pastel sky]

Thats worse than hackett dogb

[runic anvil]

am i randoms

[hoary crescent]

how much is it nowadays

[runic anvil]

bc i would hope im slightly more competent than hackett

probably less funny but

[pastel sky]

Who would with 2k hours honestly give a fuck to do a simple mission they beaten multiple times really?

[mellow hedge]

me

[pastel sky]

Unless its E tier I will not get anyone from this server to play

[runic anvil]

youd be surprised

also i have 300 dawwg

i've never beaten an e tier

[hoary crescent]

loads of people

[mellow hedge]

bad

[runic anvil]

🥺

i know...

[pastel sky]

OKAY its THAT bad I see

[mellow hedge]

Cause im bad like a barbie

[runic anvil]

no i've just made 1 attempt on r2e1

[hoary crescent]

I have over 20-30 clears in a lot of A through C tier missions

[runic anvil]

and havent played it since

[burnt flume]

shrimp on a barbie

[runic anvil]

not because it was overwhelming

[burnt flume]

in the bondi sun

[runic anvil]

just bc i havent had the chance to run it back

[hoary crescent]

to be fair you haven't really tried

[runic anvil]

yeah no

[pastel sky]

Dude we struggled on B tier missions, I don't even know how many tries any E tier will take realistically

[runic anvil]

a couple

[mellow hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-zoologist-oh-my-goodness-gracious-meme-gif-22709471

[analog flicker]

[hoary crescent]

I'd say a week

[runic anvil]

get good before you start playign e tiers

or decent anyway

you're still early game vro

dont sweat it that much

[hoary crescent]

farm for late game stats

[pastel sky]

I mena how bad is R1D1 realistically

[hoary crescent]

get the evolutions

[pastel sky]

Beaten in 3 tries

[runic anvil]

very easy

[split marlin]

well

[pastel sky]

And its D tiee

[frozen olive]

if you go in order you probably get stuck on r2e1 for a long time (or r2d2)

[split marlin]

some b tier in other rundown are harder than r1d1

[runic anvil]

r2d2 wall my beloved

[split marlin]

r1d1 is a fake d tier

[hoary crescent]

I'm harder than r1d1

[split marlin]

its easy asf

[pastel sky]

And that is exactly what I planned

[runic anvil]

proof??

[pastel sky]

To do them in order

[hoary crescent]

hold up what

[pastel sky]

It may fall on E tier

[burnt flume]

zoologist is not a bad choice

[hoary crescent]

just play the game

[runic anvil]

just keep playing

and keep learning shit

[hoary crescent]

and buy the game at some point

it may be full of bugs but it's not that bad

[mellow hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-dryad-terraria-dryad-gif-22527548

[runic anvil]

if what you're doing isn't working quit bashing your head against the wall and try something different

[runic anvil]

real and based

[pastel sky]

Please

[burnt flume]

dryad good choice

[runic anvil]

also why do you have so many of these

[pastel sky]

Do I really gaf to play with other people that actually know how to play

[mellow hedge]

idk

[runic anvil]

and where are the male npcs

[pastel sky]

Instead of playing with 3 more people that have no idea what they are doing

[hoary crescent]

wtf frostys gifs are cursed

[mellow hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-hehe-kiss-meme-kissing-meme-black-guy-kiss-gif-23557764

[pastel sky]

And we just do it like fuckin big boys we are

""

[hoary crescent]

I'm not saying to buy the game to play with other people

I'm saying to buy it cause it's good

[mellow hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/four-fucking-seconds-gif-25864910

[outer cairn]

[hoary crescent]

and it deserves the money

[runic anvil]

based

[frozen olive]

stop showing up you cant do that

[runic anvil]

shrimple as that

[pastel sky]

Think ill save for den of wolves

[mellow hedge]

cunt what the fuck is gay pregnant shrimp

[hoary crescent]

I'm one to pirate aswell but I've bought good games

[outer cairn]

No im on break

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[mellow hedge]

bro is saving 3 cents a year

[outer cairn]

[hoary crescent]

if you don't have the money to spend on a lot of games go for it

[hoary crescent]

man for all we know he might be 14

and doesn't have a job

idk

[pastel sky]

Man half my steam games aren't even bought legit

[mellow hedge]

hmm facts

[analog flicker]

saving for furry game is crazy

[pastel sky]

Three things I have most hours In I bought

[runic anvil]

gtfo's one that you should get

[runic anvil]

me core

[pastel sky]

But stuff like pizza tower and spelunky

[hoary crescent]

if you have a job and have fun money definetly buy gtfo

[pastel sky]

The like lil solo games

I cant be fucked to buy em

[frozen olive]

all games are furry games if i get involved

[runic anvil]

singleplayer games check out

[outer cairn]

TRUE

[mellow hedge]

my x is a x series goes crazy

[runic anvil]

you would say that

[hoary crescent]

but tetrio supporter

that's worth it

[runic anvil]

oh absolutely

[pastel sky]

Also yes I have 300 hours in DST I am not gay

[hoary crescent]

anyone hop on tetrio duo

[pastel sky]

And 600 hours in terraria

[mellow hedge]

hop on

[runic anvil]

im saying for practical purposes

[mellow hedge]

dis d1ck

[hoary crescent]

hop on nuclear nightmare

[runic anvil]

🥺

[outer cairn]

@frozen olive I dropped a burger and nearly cried, thought you’d want to know

[mellow hedge]

FACTS

[frozen olive]

oh cool

[mellow hedge]

when

i wanna win

[hoary crescent]

man idk

[mellow hedge]

okay pub

[hoary crescent]

I'm about to start work again September

so it's before September or never

[pastel sky]

I purposefully didn't buy gtfo

[mellow hedge]

what are you working 28 hours a day r some shit

[pastel sky]

Not mostly for money but as

[runic anvil]

you should

[hoary crescent]

no I just work and you're from australia

[pastel sky]

"will my friends even like this?"

Check

[hoary crescent]

so it's highly improbable that I'd be free when you are

[runic anvil]

i will

[mellow hedge]

brother its 4:30am rn

[runic anvil]

buy it

[hoary crescent]

wtf

my bad then it doesn't matter I guess

[mellow hedge]

eating grain waves and watching outdoor boys

[analog flicker]

no they will get skill issued

[hoary crescent]

watching boys heh

[runic anvil]

me core

[pastel sky]

From like

6 ppl I recommended

[mellow hedge]

[hoary crescent]

[pastel sky]

2 of them like fully hated it

[runic anvil]

why is it called that

[runic anvil]

true

[pastel sky]

1 is like hating how tiring the game is

And 3 other are kinda chill with it

[mellow hedge]

because thats whats happening

[hoary crescent]

[runic anvil]

me core

[mellow hedge]

[hoary crescent]

okay thsts enough

[runic anvil]

'cept i wwouldnt let it fall out of my mouth

[analog flicker]

the question is how many of them stayed playing GTFO to at be considered a pub

[hoary crescent]

I'm going after that emoji

[pastel sky]

How tf did we get to this topic

[pastel sky]

3

[outer cairn]

Wild server 😭

[pastel sky]

I have a full squad that's enough

[runic anvil]

no you need me

trust

get me in there

[runic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[pastel sky]

Okay but why do you want it so bad to play with 3 other R rated idiots to play with who are 90% lost

[mellow hedge]

dodo likes r rated things

[pastel sky]

Like I am not even kidding if there is more than 1 fucking floor our brains can't read a fuckin map at that point

[runic anvil]

:3

[pastel sky]

I cant say the word

[runic anvil]

no that's understandable llmfao

gtfo map is a lil silly

anyway i think it wwould be fun

[pastel sky]

Dude you get a map and we can't even read it

I feel rtrded moment I forgot about the other floor

And obv because its a squad

Everyone followed me too so nobody has any idea at that point

Like that's how most of the times what happens when we play

[hoary crescent]

rworded

[pastel sky]

Or we joke around fuckin glow sticks

[mellow hedge]

another samdb moment

[runic anvil]

nah the lack of differentiation between floors is kinda an issue imo

makes things more than a little confusing

[runic anvil]

that's very normal

[pastel sky]

The first moment

We saw how c foam launcher works

Immediately renamed to cm gun like

Instantly

[runic anvil]

again

normal

[mellow hedge]

thats what its called buddy

[hoary crescent]

anyways

lf3 pubs

[runic anvil]

anyhow get the game so i can teach you shit vro

so you wont fear e-tiers anymore

[pastel sky]

No its just like

If you expect

Me to take ANYTHING serious

[runic anvil]

i expect nothing

[pastel sky]

I won't trust me

[runic anvil]

get the damn game

[pastel sky]

Dude I don't even wanna play w u nothing serious but I like to play with people who never played that part of the game

[burnt flume]

still think there are better places for such a thing

[runic anvil]

oh absolutely

[runic anvil]

buh

[pastel sky]

Like we keep the shi fresh and we find about the mechanics how we are supposed to

[runic anvil]

oh you will

im letting you get jumpscared by so much shit

[pastel sky]

Only times I genuinely had to aks was R1C1 cuz it jus got too bad and we had no idea what to even do

[lost lynx]

.t r1c1

[foggy plank]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[runic anvil]

c and d tiers in r2 gonna treat you well

[burnt flume]

i lost r1c1 earlier today

[pastel sky]

I alredy done it please

[runic anvil]

with pubs or solo

[burnt flume]

you get 2 rooms away from extract and suddenly there's 5 enemies in front of you and 15 enemies behind you

[pastel sky]

After 15 attempts which feel fuckin embarrassing

[runic anvil]

average new player experience

[burnt flume]

i always win the reactor, that's the easy part of the mission

[pastel sky]

Ironically or?

[runic anvil]

ironically

no spoils though

[frozen olive]

i work for the day that this server is normal

[runic anvil]

they just get a lil hectic

[runic anvil]

"normal" is a stretch

[pastel sky]

We get like instantly destroyed on R1C1

Moment 1 GUY falls down and then we all just die

[burnt flume]

condolences

[runic anvil]

eventually you'll get good enough to recover when things go to shit

[pastel sky]

R1C1 is evil asf

8 waves is like

[runic anvil]

oh no!

[pastel sky]

So ass

[runic anvil]

not 8 waves!

[pastel sky]

I wonder if there is like

[burnt flume]

it's not too bad once you get there

adjust your strategy and try again

[frozen olive]

itll seem a lot easier when you get better

[burnt flume]

i've not played the game for a while but still manage to be sharp enough to beat that reactor

[outer cairn]

Don’t listen to them I have 600 hours and I’m still ass 💚

[frozen olive]

you dont have quick melee bound

[burnt flume]

yeah because you have 600 hours

[mellow hedge]

[pastel sky]

If its like that then ill prob be forever ass cheecks at these type of games lul

[burnt flume]

600 hours is not a lot to see serious skill progression

[runic anvil]

probably dont adopt that mindset when you have like 30 hours in game

[burnt flume]

for that you need closer to 1.5k

[frozen olive]

this statement sounds so absurd but yeah

[burnt flume]

serious skill progression as in being a considerably skilled and competent player i mean

like you are not going to impress anyone with 600 hours

[frozen olive]

im honestly not that much better overall than i was at like

idk 200-300 hours

[worthy flicker]

The people who play this game generally play it a lot and have for a very long time.

So the skill floor to ceiling is a lil crazy

[outer cairn]

That’s cause it’s for NERDS

[pastel sky]

Yeah but like 600 hours like

[hoary crescent]

you're not gonna impress any nerd team

you're gonna impress a lot of new players even with 300 lol

[frozen olive]

you play bat you dont know what shove does

[worthy flicker]

Big this tbh

[runic anvil]

"not good" is very different from what you are right now

[outer cairn]

I’m not trying to I was just joking around lol

[pastel sky]

God motherfuckin damn only game I have at those numbers is terraria modded and like atp I know every single thing

[hoary crescent]

like don't let the hours creep in this discord get to your head

600 hours in a game is plenty

[burnt flume]

you're going to impress a lot of new players by being present in twitch chat being a player that's very behind in skill progression

[hoary crescent]

1.5k if you want to solo carry sure but you don't need that many

[pastel sky]

Yeah cuz at those hours mostly ppl just fully master the game so it's kind of weird

[worthy flicker]

600 hours and you're probably perfectly serviceable to beat gtfo, as long as the team is yk solid

[hoary crescent]

pretty much

[worthy flicker]

Just takes trial and error atp, learning levels you haven't played

[runic anvil]

dont worry about it man

just keep playing the game

[hoary crescent]

let's all stop this eliticism with gtfo hours

[worthy flicker]

The people who have 3k hours aren't good, they're great.

[frozen olive]

i think its just frame of reference

[worthy flicker]

It is

[pastel sky]

Exactly, like I have 600 hours of terraria at the time of the covid and haven't opened the game after years

[burnt flume]

i will view things through an inherently biased lens, yes

[frozen olive]

500 is a lot when it comes to most people but thats not much when a lot of the good players here have at least 3x that

[hoary crescent]

exactly

gtfo is like rocket league on the hours spectrum

600 is a lot

1.5k is more

3k you're really really good

[frozen olive]

and also harder modded content generally needs you to be quite good so if you want to play that you need a lot of time spent

[hoary crescent]

if you're doing modded on gtfo let's face it you're gonna have more than 600

[worthy flicker]

A lot of gtfo is game knowledge too to be honest

[hoary crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/she-doesnt-know-that-i-gif-9746415494469800918

[burnt flume]

why does everyone have more hours than me

[worthy flicker]

I hate that I've played dbd almost since release ngl

[hoary crescent]

cause you're a nurse goat

where are you going to find time

to game

what

[burnt flume]

oh my god @hoary crescent a relic from the past

[hoary crescent]

big

[pastel sky]

I feel bad for having 300 hours on DRG ngl lol

[runic anvil]

why

its goated

[gaunt nacelle]

spinning killers is fire ngl

[frozen olive]

get on r8a2

[hoary crescent]

drg is good until everyone has more hours than you

[runic anvil]

moth is summoned by dbd mention

[worthy flicker]

Drg is great until you have a good driller and they do everything lol

[hoary crescent]

literally the hours thing i mentioned

[gaunt nacelle]

yep

[worthy flicker]

It is simultaneously the most and least fun game

[hoary crescent]

dbd is good until you get good

then you realize it's not good

and you're imprisoned like league imprisons players

[pastel sky]

Yeah but like

[worthy flicker]

And then you keep playing it cause only game in genre

[sharp owl]

You don’t need 2-3k hours to be competent at the game, and if you’re not shooting for that, then you’re good. Just aim for understanding how the game works, and how to adapt to certain situations.

Set off a chain of scouts? Pull a blood door before the entire chain goes off. Overload the spawn cap.

Team goes down and you’re at 20%? Run to a large room with doors and try to kite for revivals.

Get smacked by a striker one too many times? Learn to dodge with cover or do the jumping dodge I can never get right lol

[outer cairn]

Rn?

[frozen olive]

yeah

[gaunt nacelle]

playing against a good nurse = most unfun game ever, playing against literally anyone else super fun

[pastel sky]

"no way ive been playing the beer drinking game for 300 hours"

[runic anvil]

drg is a good fucking game

[outer cairn]

Gimme like 20 minutes almost done work

[runic anvil]

dont feel bad for enjoying playing it

[pastel sky]

Driller is too fucking broken in the game

[gaunt nacelle]

@runic anvil what level are you on?

[frozen olive]

i mean id argue that the best class is probably gunner

[worthy flicker]

Uhhh, I find Clown miserable tbh. Like I prefer nurse cause it's either the easiest game ever or its over in 45 seconds, yk? But clown, twins, boring ahh killers are the worst.

[runic anvil]

uhhhhhh

which rundown

[worthy flicker]

Nah when you get good at DRG Driller is the best class

[gaunt nacelle]

R6 hopefully

[runic anvil]

b1 🔥

[gaunt nacelle]

clown is meh, was a while since i played against twins ngl

[runic anvil]

i was gonna wait to do r6 until im done with the shitass section

[frozen olive]

no gunner has volatile bullets and shields

[pastel sky]

Driller has alot of crowd control which is 90% of enemies, can dig everywhere, blow everything up which also deals good single target damage

[sharp owl]

Plus, the best players are the ones willing to learn. If you want to be good, be open to change. If you’re the guy still stealth killing every room at R5+, that’s when you should rethink your strategy

[gaunt nacelle]

rather skip to R6 ngl

[pastel sky]

Like it gets that good

[worthy flicker]

Oh its rare but every single time its Not Fun™ lol

[runic anvil]

i would too

[gaunt nacelle]

yea, specially with how jank it is

[runic anvil]

i dont wanna come back to r4-r5 and have to do the shitty sections

[gaunt nacelle]

so true ngl

[runic anvil]

bc i skipped them prior

[worthy flicker]

Finishing R4 burnt me out of this mf game

[gaunt nacelle]

well ig im queing dbd again

[worthy flicker]

R4 has such long ass PEs bro

[runic anvil]

unfortunately so

[worthy flicker]

I got my stupid cool skull mask and stopped

[runic anvil]

r5 is worse somehow though

[frozen olive]

the 10% of enemies have about the same threat level as the rest of the enemies present

[pastel sky]

Yeah but then you remember

Holy shit there is a character just made for those

[worthy flicker]

Time to queue PH games again until I get sick of being rusty then play survivor

[frozen olive]

gunner also still has good crowd control like burning hell and minelayer system exist

[pastel sky]

And you can just go face first and just start cleaning up as driller and if you have a good scout for big value targets the game gets too free honestly

[frozen olive]

and also neurotoxin payload if you hate fun

[runic anvil]

make it harder dawgw

[pastel sky]

You can ez solo haz5 2x4 with two people only

[runic anvil]

play haz 7x2

[burnt flume]

1. pulling a blood door at that moment is going to make things more unstable and will do nothing to aid your stability. the scout waves queue so you'll fight a larger wave for longer with no reprieve
2. i guess it works but is very context dependent and also depends on tiles, somewhere with reroute potential may be a much better choice than a big room with a big door
3. regular dodging, shooting to stagger, shove, etc etc, many such things can be done and dashing away is more of a last resort

[gaunt nacelle]

i got nurse again kms

[pastel sky]

That is on haz5 2x4

[rare stone]

I initially read the abrevation as prawnhub and not pyramid head

[frozen olive]

you can solo haz5 2x4 with two people

[runic anvil]

mod it

[burnt flume]

i understand the sentiments

[pastel sky]

Solo with two people bruh

[worthy flicker]

Driller with Plasma Pistol entirely invalidates scout, they have the best mobility tool in the game, and frankly I can't think of much a good driller with an optimal set up would need a shield for. Like tbh I consider Engi better at what Gunner does than Gunner tbh.

[worthy flicker]

Cleanse your mind and spirit, friend.

[burnt flume]

but sadly they are not the most indicative of how the game actually functions

[rare stone]

I don't use PrawnHub

[worthy flicker]

I don't either, sucks.

[frozen olive]

driller does not invalidate scout

[pastel sky]

Ngl I don't even care cuz 90% of my hours is playing with 4 people actually picking every class

Or we do random dumb shit and we all pick the same class

[worthy flicker]

No, being good with Plasma Pistol does

[frozen olive]

scout is incredibly important to team stability and making sure you get enough nitra

[pastel sky]

There are mods for diff?

[worthy flicker]

You can mine everything on the ceiling by being able to pop your own plasma bubbles

[frozen olive]

and also phero grenades are the single strongest thing in the game

[runic anvil]

play a higher haz if its too easy

simple as

[worthy flicker]

There is no higher haz

[runic anvil]

6x2

7x2

[pastel sky]

Nah I cant be fucked

I alr got gtfo

[runic anvil]

theres infinite scaling

[pastel sky]

I alr got myself hell

[worthy flicker]

Did they add higher diffs?

[runic anvil]

mods

[worthy flicker]

Oh

Ig

[frozen olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76fiE6-W37A this is a pretty good showcase of the concepts taken to their extremes

[worthy flicker]

I am sorry but I am not watching a 20 minute video rn

[pastel sky]

The only thing I hate about drg is how the more enemies affect stuff like ceiling brambles

[worthy flicker]

I came in here to shitpost while darktide launched

[burnt flume]

put it on 2x speed so it becomes a 10 minute video woaaaaaah

[frozen olive]

only the first half actually has the commentary too

[pastel sky]

They either spawn 1 or for some fucked up reason there is like 4 and you cant diff which one is which

[pure belfry]

goes from literally the worst class to probably the best because he's the one that can bypass bad terrain for certain objectives that even Scout can't like mobile refining

shoutout to max complexity hollowed bough

my beloathed

[worthy flicker]

Max complexity? Brother i play driller, we going from point a to point b and we ain't stopping

[pure belfry]

exactly

[worthy flicker]

I love the end of level

Driller drills a straight ass line to extract

That never fails to amuse me on some core level

[pastel sky]

Why do a chase sequence when you can skip all of that

[worthy flicker]

Chase? It's now a death funnel, have fun gunner

I love how abstract drg let's you problem solve tbh

[pastel sky]

I mostly main engi cuz he is jst there to kill shit

Like why bother mining the fucking ceiling meth when you can just bring nuke shots to troll enemies AND your friends at the same time?

[worthy flicker]

My buddy mains engi

[pastel sky]

Also turrets shouldn't be

So insanely good ngl

[worthy flicker]

My buddy maining engi is what got me to stop playing gunner

[pastel sky]

They deal like twice more damage than I normally do lol

[pastel sky]

When I play w my friends?

We obv run 4 fat boys

[worthy flicker]

Lmfao

4 engi is funny

4 engi/4 driller is imo the funniest set ups

[pastel sky]

4 gunners is like

Free win if its dreadnought killing or smth

Cuz its just inf shield cycling

You are literally just invincible

[pure belfry]

I can play everyone except Engi

[sharp owl]

Free advice, I’ll take it lol

[pastel sky]

He is like the easiest char by far idk man

He def also has

The best overclocks

Like he has 0 bad ones its all good

[pure belfry]

By far the slowest to set up and goes against my playstyle

Someone else can play Engi

[pastel sky]

Id say gunner but they are like pretty close honestly

[pure belfry]

Gunner doesn’t really have setup

[pastel sky]

Except gunner has dogshit over clocks on lit every single gun except hurricane which def have the most fun ones

[pure belfry]

He does have the slowest movement though

[pastel sky]

He is too fat

It does pay off cuz he has the funny clutch item so he cant just be something like scout speed and just clutch revive everybody

[wraith marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cuh-guh-buh-gif-26372267

[rare stone]

Sam alt spotted

[wraith marsh]

true

its me

sam db

play samdown!! refund!!

[visual solar]

Hello. I wanted to go back to GTFO after a year of break. Wanted to ask about bots - are they still unplayable on harder maps? (especially with alarm on)

[gaunt nacelle]

yes

[junior latch]

Nothing rly changed
They arent unplayable, but definetly very quirky and tedious
Its heavily recommended to have at least 2 players total

[gaunt nacelle]

unplayable in the sense that bots cant carry stuff :3

[pastel sky]

Playing with 3 bots is like alredy a death sentence

[visual solar]

I remember that on "E" maps bots were dying almost instantly on scurge alarms, unless you was trying to "break" game with some cheezy tricks

[rose nova]

well its an E tier

[gaunt nacelle]

scurage? is that error alarm?

[visual solar]

you're suppossed to die instantly on E tier?

It should be challenging but possible (without breaking game)

[rose nova]

noo but ur supposed to have a full team by then and that everyone is up to the skill

E tiers are the hardest the game has to offer

[pure belfry]

Bots are an afterthought addition to the game really, they can get you a good deal in but they generally perform very poorly on all E Tier missions especially

[visual solar]

yeah, I didn't have consistent team, so E map could take days before you found suitable team on pub ( by LFG on discord)

so I wanted to finish game solo, but if bots are not suitable, I might pass

[pure belfry]

Some people have done E tiers with bots but it’s anything but a smooth experience

[visual solar]

yeah I know it's possible, but it is level of speedrunning

[rose nova]

no yeah this game needs people eventually

it says it on the tin

4 player coop

[pastel sky]

Having more than 1 bot is awful experience atleast for me

[visual solar]

yeah, but it is 4 player coop, with ideally consistent set of players (no random players)

[rose nova]

skill issue u dont know hot to treat my boy bishi

[gaunt nacelle]

most E tiers are fun so most like "high skilled players" play them

[pastel sky]

Dude I cant with rtrded bots trying to give me ammo or medi in middle of shooting

[visual solar]

it is hard to find dedicated players on discord here, which prepares before going to raid

[runic anvil]

r2e1 w me when 🥺

[visual solar]

a lot of time is wasted

[pastel sky]

They either instantly die cuz of that or we loose firepower cuz we have more than 1 bot and just get swarmed

[visual solar]

but I agree, E maps I finished so far were super fun, but LFT time is not worth it for me

[gaunt nacelle]

team i have a holy pub teamate

[visual solar]

and from my memory, skill is not so important as patience

[runic anvil]

what is this nightmare

[gaunt nacelle]

skill is more important

with skill you can "rush" (as in you can quick stealth)

[visual solar]

you need patience to die couple of time,s you need patience to find proper team, you need patience to play slowly when required, and you need patience to prepare before mission

[rare stone]

"just a few QoL mods"

[pastel sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-moai-dwayne-johnson-d3s-gif-17850471898251413922

[rose nova]

time to report 🔥

[gaunt nacelle]

thats just skill really though

[gaunt nacelle]

they wouldnt do anytthign lolllllll

[pastel sky]

If proper team is your friends who are completely lost, then it can't get better from there

[rose nova]

at least tell me the @ in dms ksmdmk to note them

[runic anvil]

kid named learning

[mellow hedge]

FACTS

[rare stone]

real

[pastel sky]

Okay but lowkey how do 4 lost people beat 3 levels in a row, even tho they are easy they had the funny gimmick to atleast try fuck us up but we did em 1st try

Also fuck the evil door on R2B1 btw

[runic anvil]

b tier

on r2

[tall hawk]

holy

[runic anvil]

easy missions

[pastel sky]

Still with 0 knowledge we found our ways

Also with 3 ppl

[runic anvil]

the game gives very clear instructions

[pastel sky]

Who didn't even beat R1

Their ever first missions and they do them 1st try

That is fuckin insanity

[runic anvil]

c tiers boutta roll up

[rose nova]

u can get away with a lot in this game just by good shooting

but up to a point

[pastel sky]

I have no idea

[gaunt nacelle]

dude i FUCKING HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS

anyways

[pastel sky]

Some times we have no ammo or we do

[rose nova]

leave :3

[pastel sky]

Its jus like "we gotta try this build surely itll work"

[runic anvil]

come play r2e1 w me :3

[gaunt nacelle]

hes not host so idc that muhc

[pastel sky]

We get some random garbage in

And boom somehow it works

[gaunt nacelle]

im gonna once we done

[runic anvil]

yay!

[gaunt nacelle]

this guy legit fucks up so much

istg

its so painful

pulling stuff he shouldnt

[rose nova]

again up to a point, r2 b tiers are forgiving

[runic anvil]

r2b tiers are about the same difficulty as r1 b tiers

[pastel sky]

How good is the meta in this game again? Just asking if the game gets so bad we need those weapons or else we can't do jackshit

[rare stone]

I might join if no foam

[runic anvil]

which is to say theyre simple

[runic anvil]

no ladderfoam in this bitch

we play the game as intended

[tall hawk]

hell yeah

[rose nova]

... up to a pooint tbh too
obvs it makes some stuff easier but losing hp to an enemy is usually nonfixable

[rare stone]

fine, I'll get on

[runic anvil]

itll be a bit

moth is currently suffering

[mellow hedge]

The best guns are just so much better than the others

[gaunt nacelle]

dude he JSUT MELEED A BBC ALONE

holy

avg spear and qol mods moment

[pseudo sedge]

honestly it depends on how offmeta u wanna go

cause burst pistol sniper vs sawed off scatter u will want to die

[pastel sky]

Only meta weapon I know is scattergun its prob most obv one

Its just biden blast

[rare stone]

hey I used BP and Sniper on a few R8E2 runs

I liked it

[pseudo sedge]

but smg machine gun vs sawed off scatter isn't a world ender

[pastel sky]

Not like "fully" but we mostly like to change weapons cuz how they work mostly

[pastel sky]

Machine gun is really good when we used it

[pseudo sedge]

I would say: if someone has a preference they can easily keep playing it, this game doesn't require players to switch guns for the sake of meta

[pastel sky]

Idk if its meta or not honestly

[warped monolith]

Copy pasta incoming

[pseudo sedge]

it's a decent gun, the main issue with machine guns is they get overshadowed heavily by other guns

[pastel sky]

Idfc what anyone says, machine gun is good

[rare stone]

Machinegun on R2E1 is okay

[pastel sky]

Atleast the better fire rate one

[modern coral]

Sniper is much more useable than MG, Sniper is just harder to play and is more content-dependent.

Lots of early/easy levels don't have that many big enemies

[rare stone]

Sniper my beloved

[modern coral]

And if there are lots of bigs, but you barely shoot them, your Sniper player is kind of useless.

[pastel sky]

That is exactly why we at most use 1

Cuz big guys deny to spawn or its a full room of only them

[modern coral]

Yeah, it's def a 1-of kind of gun.

Even one room of them I think is not a great level for it

[pastel sky]

I cant be fucked to use a gun to shoot three times

When I can have smth to mown the lawn

[modern coral]

But it can carry on specific reactors.

[pastel sky]

Awesome I forgot there are alot of reactor missions in this game

[graceful geode]

Problem with Sniper is that a bad chokemod (for example) player is still going to eventually do some damage

a bad sniper player is just going to be useless

[gaunt nacelle]

@runic anvil

[pastel sky]

Also what is up with hel gun and hel sniper, they like feel like the same gun except hel rifle just has more dmg

[graceful geode]

ah yes the hel sniper

[pastel sky]

Idk its like barely any ammo difference for something that deals shit ton of dmg

[gaunt nacelle]

surely hel sniper

[gaunt nacelle]

hel rifle has more dmg but less ammo efficiency against smalls and in generally less fire rate and bullet count that hel gun

hel gun is harder than hel rifle though

[modern coral]

HEL Gun is more flexible, and plays like Revo if you don't get lines. HEL Rifle plays more like HCP if you don't get lines, which makes it more reliant on them, but also gives it more potential in situations where you do get them.

[graceful geode]

HEL Gun you take if you're good at popping heads, HEL Rifle you take if you basically want to bodyshot everything and do fine

[gaunt nacelle]

where is dodo frfr

[graceful geode]

I recently had a R4C3 and it was so satisfying to delete an entire wave during the alarm for main's turbine

[pastel sky]

Idk tf HCP is

[modern coral]

High-cal

[gaunt nacelle]

high cal pistol

[pastel sky]

I see

[graceful geode]

granted I was only able to do that for one but heck, seeing 3 chargers dead per hit for a whole mag was fantastic

[modern coral]

30 damage, special, not a pellet weapon

[pastel sky]

Basically hel gun is more csgo aim trainer weapon if you wanna go for small enemies while hel rifle just kills everything except ammo kinda sucks

[graceful geode]

the one that looks like a DEagle

is HCP

[modern coral]

They are both very aim intensive and high skill cap, their main differences are target preference and range.

[gaunt nacelle]

hel gun = ak47 (i assume) and hel rifle playes more like an AVP

[modern coral]

and util, I guess.

[split marlin]

and then you have burst cannon

[pastel sky]

I fuck w HCP

Its prob my fav gun just from the looks

[modern coral]

HEL Rifle can definitely be very mediocre in the wrong hands simply because line play is not very intuitive.

[gaunt nacelle]

but hel rifle also isnt that hard imo to learn, or maybe thats just me

[pastel sky]

Idk if we have ass placements but we just never see enemies lining up for piercing shots really

Except after breaking a door

[graceful geode]

I'm perhaps spoiled by knowing the map layouts so I know where I can and cant tunnel enemies, but I'd say it's more forgiving than HEL Gun

[gaunt nacelle]

play around objects so stuff funnels generally

[modern coral]

That's mostly a positioning issue, though.

[pastel sky]

I've almost never hit more than 1 enemy atleast with the sniper

[gaunt nacelle]

its not sniper 😔

[modern coral]

You have to figure out what spots are likely to give you good lines, and then position around those spots

[pastel sky]

I did more with other piercing weapons mostly hel auto pistol

[pastel sky]

I meant hel sniper bro

I cant be fucked to be that precise

[gaunt nacelle]

its not hel sniper either

[rare stone]

rifle

riffel

reifell

rifil

refill

[pastel sky]

Bro am I scitzo

[gaunt nacelle]

if you ever see stuff that looks like this you should funnel enemies thru them bacisly @pastel sky

[pastel sky]

Hel sniper has pierce right

[graceful geode]

I'm sure it's called schrotenschutzenshcrumer something in german

[rare stone]

this really is a jugger moment

[gaunt nacelle]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HEL SNIPER

OMGGGGGG

[tall hawk]

RIFLE YES

[gaunt nacelle]

team i cant handle this

[rare stone]

Scharfschützengewehr

[pastel sky]

Okay its hel rifle

[rose nova]

precision sniper

[graceful geode]

I keep reading "Tuho #bringbackTuho" for some reason...

[pastel sky]

Its a fucking sniper type weapon, yk what I am talking about

Like

[modern coral]

HEL Gun has lots of stuff that makes it kind of annoying to learn to play (0.2 charge-up, difficult to achieve max RoF), but its ammo pool I think makes it a lot less punishing and getting accidental pen gives it value w/out necessarily requiring special player input to get it.

[rare stone]

bro just ask Tuho out on a date already

[gaunt nacelle]

its not even that much of a sniper

this is just ragebaiting and its working on me

[pastel sky]

I cant be fucked to remember one name of a gun that I definitely use the least

[pastel sky]

Krill issue

[modern coral]

Exp players tend to think of guns differently