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Yeah it's unfortunate I've been the same skill for like 300 hours
someone needs to dial in
I've literally done everything in my power man
Gg I'm going to bed
Sam down huh
get reviewed
❤️
Bruh fine
run it by me, trust
no me
very serious
I have experienced the exactly same thing on the same level
Ur like the same skill as me
guh
What r u gonna tell me
extraction too hard
shoot gooder
that you are stupid
I already know that!
Maybe I vod review myself
It's hard to know your mistakes while you are playing
that death was painful
i feel for you dawg
honestly you played that pretty well
only a couple things that need to be polished up in that extraction
oh and you’re playing without sound?
i like watching something on a different device
hehe
You miss the opportunity to reload like 20 times
i should've done this
average r1b2 extract
I got it though
wym
so generally your aim is pretty solid
like syntav said there’s plenty of points where you have downtime
where you should be reloading your guns
and stuff like that
any time there’s a lull in the action try to reload both weapons if possible
ic
if i ever touch r1b2 solo again
Not saying you should
your melee aim was a little shaky but honestly that’s to be expected
half second reload ❤️
you just need to get nerves a little more under control so you hit more consistent melees
that probably would’ve saved your run
understandable
gets much more easy the more you play and the more you do it
rather than doing the little dodge from pressing sprint and strafe at the same time, turn and sprint horizontally to get out of tongue range
melee at the end you took 3 free licks (the first ones)
especially if there’s a fuckload of them all in front of you
like at the very very end
could have dodged the first one and then hit and 2nd and 3rd were nerves I'm assuming
Humpter are you new?
got the game like a month ago
he might be gaming
how many hours you working with
90
banger
honestly looking pretty good for 90 hours
still got some stuff to learn but i’d say you’re in a decent spot for your playtime
we need a melee combat guide
aim head, swing hammer
cause people don't know how to melee
its basically just knowing where to be
thats a bit more advanced
not rlly for a newie more for like mid r4 r5
i’ll make a melee guide full of misinformation because i don’t actually know what im doing
🥰
moth go to bed pooks
Knife only surely
eh it's more than that
surely
Already in bed
you make a guide then
you are like one of the best players
can i join you
no i'm gatekeeping info
Yes
yay!
Vet moments
me that one time
Me when I run hammer first into bbc (my scatter was at 100%)
did this happen in our r5b1 game lol
:3
wish i was there to cuddle but alas
One day or day one
beeeet
let me in
into the gay people meetup?
sleeps
haiiiii
ye
evil and intimidating horse
Nah thats this one
Uma Musume reference?
Uma Musume reference?
rule 7 reference????????
joins ur vc
ar dif
ar for babies double tap for moms
@tacit shoal @mystic moss can you two move to a larger vc i want to watch the risk of rain run
No
Music prolly
It has been done. What was once thought impossible has been completed. Including both testing and actual attempts, this took a bit over 20 hours. This run was pretty horrible but was also my first post-reactor attempt. I changed up my strat to using the corrupt scan during third wave instead of second and it made a huge difference. This clear wa...
huzzah!
Actually crazy wtf
nice job
Huge W
actual w

It’s been done
that means every level in the game has been soloed as of now I think
not without glitches
e2 solo had already been done with glitches
there is still r7e1 and r6cx to be done
twink clear
@mellow hedge how long since the idea was brought up for solo e2?
ages ago
probably since the rundown came out
The evil run
the evil and intimidating twink
actually cooked run
average
since when are you blue? 
You must have been color blind
Sup yall
Love the game, can usually only find one other player tho.
HMU if youre a chill adult who wants to play
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are you a chill adult who wants to play with me? 🥺
i always play with you
huzzah!
whatever you say man
estrogen
from wich zone the enemy spawns in the last alarm of r6d4? i dont remember now
This is the only time they spawn 3 rooms away
huh?
alarm alarm, or the error alarm
I gotta stop drinking Monsert
the last surge, cell carrying etc
or at least not as often
switch to coffee
error
spawn sided
nah I have real problems with my blood pressure
Dodo is tryna get you to a femboy physique
oh that’s understandable
:3
.t r1c1
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
It’s kinda ez with hel weapons ngl
Hel weapons penetrate so if you play lineups it’s ez
Don't hel weapons barely do any damage tho
I've got 3 other guys and we can barely make it past wave 6
hel gun and hel rifle are two of the best guns in the game
what weapons and tools are you using
Hel rifle and hel gun does quite a large amount of dmg medium-long range
the main points are
take good tools (3 sentries comprised of burst + sniper in whatever amount, and a biotracker)
hold where there are resources
don't instantly put the code in - there is no benefit to putting the code in early, rather the benefit is found in putting it in as late as possible to give yourself extra time due to how the spawns work
High dmg =/= good
also hel weapons do high dmg (comparably) aside from hel pp
2 burst sentries, 1 hel sentry and foam
and pretty much all MGs
just make sure wherever you’re holding has areas where multiple enemies will line up
Don’t take foam on reactors
bring 2 burst + 1 sniper + 1 bio
Hel sentry takes too much tool refill
everything’s the issue here
MG’s suck
and also i would not recommend the machine guns basically at all
ah you're all being too prescriptive
you have no giant kill with this so it makes sense youre dying
i mean if they’re struggling
we’re gonna point out things that’ll help
well one guy had a sniper for that but it wasnt very useful
@frozen portal take what i said in my message above, do some more runs, and come back if you're still struggling
sniper is pretty bad, hel rifle will probably suit you better
more of a stepwise approach
rather than giving swathes of information at once and expecting something to come of it
yeah youre probably right goat
yea ill try that
thanx for the tips
i would at least add bring a weapon for the giants (hel rifle (also really good on smalls), burst cannon, sniper)
look im not saying its great but its not terrible on this level
Understandable
they could do, but i'd rather disseminate the basic strategy first and see how they get on with that
can never tell how well a newer/less experienced team will do shooting, especially if they're unknown
its easier if its rly just 1 person talking aswell
cuz if 4 others throw in random bits over and over
it just makes it really unapprochable
i’m sorry 🥺
ya, it's been a long time thing in this discord
oh we all suck
even when some people are well intentioned in what they're saying they suck at giving advice so it's not helpful, regrettably
This is more true ingame than in a discord discussion tbh
i see the issue though, if you've got a bunch of people saying the same thing all at once it doesnt really invite discussion
esp if they're a new player
On the other hand I'll admit Goat advice is the best structured compared to the others
theres a lot of different things being thrown around at the same time
plus theres some mild "missinfo" takes. Or explanations that give the wrong impression that get put in aswell
instant flashbacks to dropresource not being cheats, and toxic elitist vets deciding that boosters are
😔
Streaming R2E1 controller in Bishop
really? 🥺
Uma Musume reference?
Holy shit an uma Musume reference!!!!
show me your MLB kita black or you're a pub
leak names
Ewwwwww boosters
i mean
if you're a reasonably well presented man who comes across as confident
most people would believe you
Yep
That's how many questionable people end up in the spotlight
If you know what I mean
yeaaaaaaa bad people end up everywhere
see: US presidential office/white house
also former employee at my work whom i never met or interacted it
Ok so its all ok if i dont change my weapons mechanics and stats
It still means someone can run at speed of sound then
rules for thee but not for me
True
[🪵] No1 Frosty #bringbackmedia was playing
As long as youre not pain in the ass to the team its alr
if you're cheating in my lobby i will do something about it, dependent on what it is
speed hacks, aimbot, resource cheats, anything like that
i will shoot you and leave you dead
until you decide to leave
or kickmod
dropresource you're a lame ass mfer but it's not gonna make a difference in winning or losing
in case I'm the lobby I'm still getting shot
Honestly I use hacks only if im playing a mission with only myself for goofs
thats completely fine
justt dont bring ur fuck ass arsenality mod into my lobby talkin bout some "its more balanced for vanilla"
real thing the dev said btw
Very balanced indeed.Like having 2x the ammo and get like 2x the ammo or tool.😂
😭 wait really
wdym that's very balanced
Hey guys, me and my squad (3 people total) have been trying to finish R2D2 for ages (2 years namely) we dropped the game at some point. Now we want to keep going but we refuse to move to R3 beofore we complete R2D2. Skill aside we have concluded that our builds could be sub-optimal. Do you have any suggestions on good weapons, tools etc. We specifically are looking for some good/strong weapon options that synergize well
Have fun with E1
well sniper sentries are good
especially with how many giants there are later, HEL rifle would be useful
I think one bio, one burst and two snipers are good
there are plenty of places to hold in
are you running with a bot for your fourth slot?
Idk i only duo'd this
yup that pesky DAUDA has been a lovely addition to the roster
Give him bio
we have already
Good
bio on bot is perfect indeed
where are you dying?
well try the sniper turrets
on r2d2
I'd say take 2 snipers and a burst and bio
for weapons, HEL rifle is a good pick (per usual)
2 sniper sentries are a bit more challenging to play with than 2 burst sentries and a sniper sentry
so, we have died in multiple occasions. mostly during wave 4 but we have reached up to wave 8
our biggest problem is that we keep getting overrun
oh got it
I did it with two snipers
what's your hold spot?
ye you can do it with a ton of loadouts
consistently the bridge door
take veruta for free win /joke

when there are 3 doors open we go back of geny room
NOO PLEASE
dymus...
reactor holds on r2d2 are rough
I would recommend some guns but you know what stuff i play with
go back to playing league dymus 
NO
indeed... what would you suggest?
My friend is eating dinner
you've got a couple options
regarding weapon options. Its rly just the waveclear side of the meta guns
sawed off shotgun, hel revolver are incredible
hel rifle (or hel gun) for wave clear that also works for giants a bit. Burst cannon (or the uber niche sniper for hybrids) for giants mainly
that's where i held
you can push up to the entrance, clear the initial waves and then hold the bridge from there
but 4th room is good
one burst cannon and one hel and one sniper sound solid
or two hel rifles
4th code room has the issue of delaying spawns a bit quite often
honestly if they get good at holding in reactor they will have no issues with that, but the hold itself is tough
entrance being spawn
yeah. I used to hold outside of reactor though
could you please point me to where the fourth room is?
I'm not good at reactor hold
Below reactor
fourth code room sorry
honestly getting used to holding bridge isnt bad
the one you were describing
just hold closer to spawn until you finish 4th code
bridge is a nice spot
once you did 4th, have 1 or 2 people fall back towards reactor to cover spawns coming from behind
do you think its enough? we have done that.. we consistenly get overrun
well what guns were you using?
also on a slightly unrelated note, i have been playing the mastaba A TON is it a good gun tho? ahhahahaa
also theres someone in teams that doesnt shoot (suprisingly often)
mastaba pistol
we dont rly use manufacturer names
that's a revolver
also there isnt a mastaba pistol afaik ?
And it is solid
the revolver yes
nope the pistols are shellings
ye
i find that if you hit the heads its really solid.. but maybe im wrong
shelling arid, shelling nano, shelling something idk
it is a small clearing option
good if you can click heads
but hardcore outvalued by hel gun
play PEN
since that has penetration (busted) but also higher dmg that helps with chargers and bigger enemies
revo treated me kinda nice on solo runs but hel weapons are just so so fucking good
everything is outvalued by hel gun and hel rifle
other than scatter
sniper not outvalued surely
?
surely r6d1 carries sniper into the top tier guns
surely
yeah trust
do you think we need a sniper since there are a lot of giants?
There are better options
if you have 2+ hel rifles, no
HEL rifle
scattergun > sniper in almost every situation ever
sniper is a niche niche option
its primarily a hybrid answer. And is good vs giants
Yeah
its mostly smth id pick on r2d2 if you guys struggle with hybrids and giants a lot
I liked sniper on R5E1, too. but we're not talking about it rn
i think we were running double sniper on my r2d2 clear, would really not recommend lmfao
2 burst sentrys
1 sniper sentry that helps with giants (but also smalls)
We had an interesting loadout for R5E1 duo
I love bad guns
based
rate it
10/10
ok so HEL rifle for special and what about main weapon?
same thing we took for R2D2 except we took 2 snipers (sentries)
beginner gtfo stream loadout except it aint a beginner gtfo stream
sawed off/hel revolver for top tier meta
carbine if you want a good but easier to use weapon
honestly? i see it
sawed off, hel revo, carbine are the goats
I love veruta
veruta is kinda solid all around
and CHolesterol loves his sniper
maybe dmr if someone really likes it
"if it works it works"
type shit tbh
Yeah, I would clear smalls and he would snipe the bigs
it was like the peak of our cooperation
right after R2E1
for a while i'd been running veruta on r2d2 and it works pretty well
obvs outclassed very easily but it does its job
I took it on like
is the hel shotgun cool?
R4E1 solo hold
veruta works fine in most levels, it's just it gets outclassed by pen heavily so compared to others it becomes meh
Should just add all the rundown specific weapons to each rundown so you actualy have people not using overpowered guns on rundowns they where not intended for
its top tier
but short range. Not smth typically recommended for R2D2
yes, it is a very good gun, but not in r2d2
i wouldnt say its the best for r2d2 but it's very strong yes
yeah
But tbh i take it everywhere
veruta pen update when
basically hel shotty: u stagger everything and if enemies clump up they just die
good luck prisoner
veruta except they give it the short rifle rate of fire but automatic
the better burst cannon
Veruta my beloved
actual creamworthy weapon design
i dream of the day you get buffed
dream
hybrids will fear me
actually everything will fear me lmfao
peak weapon tbh
I DREAM OF THE DAY THE VERUTA COPYPASTA HAS TO FALL
balanced
SHUSH
C E R U T A
SHUSH TGB
C E R U T A
actually this would be in line with the rest of gtfo's balance
S T O P
-# i am adding ceruta to tartarus
Do it
Make a machine gun as a tribute to me
-# (Would be interesting to see ngl)
my enby ass could never
more for me :3
women 🤤
both preferably
femboy in my lap while i sit on tomboy's lap
ok but like imagine a femboy but a girl
peak
true
🐾
hai lakana!!
quoting this shit
sup
too busy playing D&D
do what IRL
this isn't about me is it
i'd hope not
i'm not hosting an airship battle in a storm irl
good good
i dont have access to either dawg
i will be femmedrogynous and i will be hot
unfortunately right now i am mandrogynous
the fuck is this
I RESPONDED TO THE WRONG MESSAGE
its a pastry
good job frosty
was that meant to be replying to me?
no comment
right
haii moth
not my fault i dont have any actual femboys as irl friends
i try my best
mmm
Haiiii dodo
Buy them thigh highs and a python course
hmm
i mean i've certainly got a handful of twinky friends
i bet i could convert them
Ggs ez
sounds like you know from experience
I converted my irl friends
and you didnt even get freaky with any of them?
monty python
good job
Ty mommy
Who said that?
self proclaimed straight person
also good boy~
Böh?
🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
you'd probably enjoy being collared wouldn't you
🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
No need to think about that one
🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🔥🔥
:3
:3
Why does this level have 3 extra sets of scans compared ot OG :(
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fnaf 2 jumpscare
I once jumpscared someone like that
For absolute no reason
Me when I dont know what im saying:
??
im saying that the person deserved it
nah but i know that it was
Why tho
because it was funny
honestly based for saying they deserved it without even knowing the reason for it
Truely based
True
I dont see the quote posted yet frosty
this game is doing things to me
just wiped a 2h r1c2 run on the 3rd wave of the last door
See the red text say large biomass detected
your about to be saying it if you post this 3 of a kind image
(I am the large biomass)
I'M BUSTING
ResourceHelper????? smfh these QoL users............
ok but how do I soundbug on the first surge
hawk 2 uh
skibidi toilet
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SHIT ON YALL ARE TRASH
Gang you cant have all of the money and the honey
WHEN AND WHERE
Look behind you
im lookin too dawg
Maybe bc its not possible
what, for a femboy to sit in my lap and for me to sit in a tomboy's lap?
i feel like that's very acheivable
But how are you gonna have someone sit on your lap when youre sitting on someones lap
uncomfy
uh
You create a big problem for positioning
if the tomboy's taller than i am and the femboy's shorter than me
Damn I got shit on 😔
Still doesnt fix the problem
Karma is a bitch
so what exactly is the problem
Its how you position your lap
If you position your lap to be paralel as (supposingly) a couch a femboy is prob not gonna enjoy that
What the
Femboys like pointy stuff
I'm hard not shocked
Yk whats also hard
Me
proof?
Dms
:3
Is tiny though😔
We know well its not gonna even happen in dms
so wait im still not sure what you mean exactly
How are you gonna maximize the enjoyment of everyone here
When its not possible
why wouldnt the femboy be having a good time
im a skinny little fuck
im practically not even there
I wouldn’t be so sure
my fault
Ok c-foam consumer
Scouts Yummers
:3 icecream
That tastes worse than dogshit
:[
This guy likes dogshit
🪞
Nuh uh
🥺
can i yummers your cfoam
yes mommy :3
r2b1 solo might be a little difficult
are you trying it rn?
or was this in response to smth else
i was trying it a moment ago
class 7 was what fucked me up the time i tried it
that room doesn’t have very good lines
i might run it back though
revolver gaming
im thinking dmr + shotgun or sawed off + hel rifle/gun
i’d be more inclined to run hel but the enemies spread out so much that it doesn’t feel worthwhile
maybe withh very very pro gaming hel gun
waiter! waiter! more kiting please
what if i open both blood doors to get more doors to mine
Ur onto something
Are the blood doors same zone as alarm?
Ur cat is foolish
yes, 2 n each side
They are in the same room
you say that but i tried it and i got a like 20 sleeper room behind one of the doors
Pull room and run to another door
:3
how often does this game get on steam sale
usually often and above 50%
idk whats the next sale steam event
but probably that
are you running burst sentry or mines
cause mines is harder ngl
Oh thx
Guess i will wait
you can also buy a key from allkeys shop if you live in a shitty economy, however i recommend supporting the devs
i would expect mines to be easier given that they kill somewhere around 6 waves if you open both blood doors and make the blood doors pretty easy too
it is really up to rng with how the enemies spawn
u have a resource room
When you beat R7D2 with the entire team down on the scan, surrounded by 2 tanks, and spamming a medkit while running around on the scan at 4% lmao
r1c1. . . COMPLETE !
DONT buy this dead game PLEASE
stfu pub
you will waste your money
go play r4c1 ! you will have so much fun !
honestly could be so much worse
layout sucks, thats all
Its really hard to defend the dev team when they incentivise afking on a 12 code uplink
Or when you just have to sit there for like 5 minutes while ur team perma foams
eh, uplink's not fun but its not long either
i mean sure
samothydeebee
ig its fine if everyone just does nothing and theres no skill involved
your ass couldnt even solo hold it
pub
hehe
Yeah cuz im bad
i swapped to the WRONG gun
But that is not the point
Its not just uplinks
any alarm that requires permafoan
which alarm requires permafoam huh
I absolutely agree on the point that uplinks are a bad objective btw
None require it but almost no players have the skill to complete nm6 foamless. Do you suggest we make a niche game more niche?
There is more examples than nm6
just dont permafoam and get goated
gather objectives where you need to open tons of boxes and uplinks are the 2 that I think needed overhaul and kinda got it/improvements
gather objective got changed to be more specific (datacubes) or made based on terminal (r6d2)
Uplinks need a lot of movement and action in between and multi spawn points. Double uplinks were an attempt but are meh
But r6cx uplinks are very well done imo
Ive already dismantled this point
„Dismantled“ 
im not saying it should be in the game
pointing to one of the hardest alarms in the game as an example for why not foaming = bad
isnt dismantling
The thing with foam is, that if you remove the ability to refoam its balance is just as weird as rn
it would be pretty solid still on early levels
but would be so bad on most late stuff
and my point of view is since permafoam is less fun, i dont use it
play the game in a way that is fun and engaging
Maybe. Just maybe. If you cant balance a design to make it fun, its not a good design
In normal runs it depends on whether im there to get someone a clear, want a win myself or just play for lulz
in speedruns/challenge runs its whatever is best
the foam balance part wouldnt be in question to whether it was fun or not
Enjoyment also really depends. While there are people who rly enjoy combat, theres also those that love planning and preparing so that they can avoid it as much as possible
hiiii
Its very likely devs never intended for permafoam
Hii
but its not as much an issue as you are making it seem like it is imo
especially acting up to „dont buy this game due to it“
i think that was the ghost of sam channeling through his child
There are a lot of other reasons besides cfoam
cfoam only really effects those who value combat (ie the best part of gtfo)
???
„A lot of other reasons to tell people not to buy the game“
Is cope
Game obviously has issues
and things that could very much have been better
Sam and me btw hard agree that this game had insane potential
I don't even know what's happening but I pick whatever side syntav isnt
the difference is that I think the game still is a good product, albeit super niche
facts, that's why we need roblox gtfo
oh fuck no xD
Fr
we can all agree that LoL is worse than GTFO
r2c2 reference............
eh
Definitly
league has its own massive share of issues
Without a doubt
not really a competition
but its a different game and leagues biggest problem is the community
Niche, so niche that only the niche group that enjoys the game gets fucked over by bad game design
also i will say, most new players dont even know about perma foam
just not the case?
unless you think the playerbase is like 50 people
im not getting fucked over by game design dawg
honestly the game design that fucks me over
Yeah honestly i do
Are checkpoints and teamscans
i feel like its only the people with a lot of hours that shit on the game, which makes sense. most new players say they are having the time of their life because they dont know what to criticise
Sam db has manifested himself into syntav
then your arguments are based on cope anyhow
there are already roblox zombie games with the same mechanics as gtfo
they were big like 2022 or smth
he doesn't know
no, roblox gtfo doesn't exist
OK well theres similarr
Should it exist tho
no
Like 95% of these are new players
And?
this just in, new players aren't players
it used to... gone to history...
Literally we were talking about experienced players who get fucked over by the game design
new players dont really care
I actually disagree with that
wdym get fucked over by the game design
they are in a state of happy-go-lucky ignorance
you mean having fun????
they are in a state of happy
glad they are, thats the point of games
My bad, didnt know new players were out here cracking down on perma foam
syntav put your pub ass to bed
Yes ! its great that new players have fun ! its just progressively as you play more less of the game is fun
get sam out of your dms
call the exorcist
maybe not cracking down on permafoam (tho very possible) definitely complaining about weapon imbalance, checkpoints.., and most commonly: level length
he possesed me
I feel like I cared about these issues more as a younger player actually
hence why I stopped playing after single clearing every level, only to come back for speeding and comps
Level length is actually a somewhat issue even for decent players
But then why are you telling new players to not buy the game?
can agree with that
but if people dont care about playing with new players then i dont think it matters
Because they get there 10 hours of fun then its over
all of these issues are an issue for decent players, but they are also an issue for newbs too
they arent gonna know what a bad pub is
it can still be fun and theres always the chance to find friends
but spending 20-40 euros for that chance can be.. rough
it's not about the quality of the pub
I dont know about that one
it's about the fact that you can't pub some of the levels cause people just don't play them
you cant deny that almost no players progress to be even half decent
at a sale thats still good value for a game btw
yeah makes sense
thats due to gtfos accessability issues
which is an actual problem for new and intermediate players, contrary to permafoam
i've paid more for games shorter than 10 hours and still felt happy about buying them
"10 hours of fun" this game is unironically one of the best value games out there with hundreds of hours of new gameplay
think about how many hours it takes to beat the game compared to others
Perma foam was a seperate complaint from me telling the new players to refund
we just don't think of it like that because story and mission order isn't linear
i am extremely new so this is an interesting discussion to walk in on lol
it was genuinely the first and only point you made?
hey hows it going?
tldr dont permafoam
we have different philosophies about video games i suppose
Why do you tell players to not buy the game/refund then?
tl:dr
game has issues (which.. most games have), primarily accessability, leading to a real tough learning curve aswell as solo play (without friends) being very taxing
i tried R1A1 a couple times with an irl friend
this was a couple days ago but i got the urge to play again
hell yeah :3
we were just talking about 95% of players never making it past the first couple of stages
ive heard that solo on anything but the lowest letters is extremely hard if you don't already know the game well
of course i've literally only done R1A1 and the tutorial so idk
But if they still enjoyed the game why does it matter?
even r1b2 solo is hard if you dont know the game
You dont have to complete the game for it to be worth it in their eyes
true solo is quite difficult, w bots its more managable
Z made a very good point actually that i didnt consider, that people will spend upwards of 40 usd for a few hours of fun
it absolutely is (its a lot easier if you include bots, they can help a lot. But typically its recommended to have at least 2 players in a team)
which i can understand
the game does a terrible job at teaching new players though
accessability is dogshit
tutorial does hardly anything
play both to improve and to have fun :3
i only have one friend who plays this game and they showed me the ropes but hes not available often lol
also ask questioms
lots of friendly people here to help
or at least the basics
thats how i found the game too lol
that the tutorial doesnt teach you
People here are super happy to help if you have questions
but generally you will not get value for money if you spend 40 dollars or even 20 dollars for this game (IN MY OPINON)
There are also a bunch of guides
Gtfo tutorial is like an average roblox tutorial
I guess if thats how you feel 🤷♂️
i wouldnt be telling people to not buy the game at all tho imo
that is due to the accessability and people refusing (sometimes for good, sometimes for bad reasons) to check out community made guides
i mostly was drawn to try it cause ive been starved of difficult mechanic heavy non pvp video game content that requires a coordinated team
so real
i will say this game does an exceptional job at fucking over mid game players
this is the game for you
especially due to making them pub
id rather someone spends 20 bucks and after 10 hours of some fun realizes they dont like it, while another relishes and gets 100+ hours
than to tell both not to get it
i had fun pubbing early on
hard to learn but i think its a lot of fun
98% of pub lobbys are COMPLETELY fine
Idk i bought this game only knowing that i will have hundreds of hours of gameplay which is what i wanted
i've pubbed for hundreds of hours and only had a couple bad ones
for how much i hate destiny, raids in that game were awesome and that itch has been unscratched for like 2 years
honestly at some point the bad ones are the fun ones 
early game sucks ass, mid is ok, end game is actually insanely good
Its just the fact that not many players are that skilled and wait times are generally a bit high
ngl I wouldnt say the early game sucks
its just that knowledge is inaccessible
but the early game itself is insanely good
cuz its a different game for beginners
Why do you need skilled players
half the fun is shitting yourself in levels and failing
i think im mostly unaffected by poor inacessability for beginners because ive always been the type to love the "bash your head against a wall until you figure out how to break it" type thing
theres some people who would disagree with that
I personally did not have fun in pubs
but i may have gotten unlucky
that's why early game sucks, thats practically the whole point of early game content
yeah i literally said that in my message
im in a bit of a strange position because im mute irl so i cannot contribute callouts or anything like that
people will pub because that's one of the few ways to still play the game
but im a good listener lol
pubs is hit or miss
bad quality games still better than no games
Dont get too heated
thing is tho people who pub and pub lobbies are the minority of players
most people have groups they play with
or i should say the majority
quick comms
there's always the command button by pressing 'q' :D
there is actually quite a lot of mutes in the pub lobbies (and as rem said, theres quick comms with the comms menu)
im wondering if i should get my other friends into this game
good to know
when I started the game, the only problem I had was to understand that I needed to be patient and not to rush and really to learn and understand what I am doing
and I think that's the problem in the early game because new players don't know that and want to rush things like in every other game
Yeah which sucks bc less people in pubs is more waittime
wait till u see what experienced players do...
some people have that problem
but theres also the opposite, which is whats often learned when people transition into experienced-ish players
That is not taking it too slow and playing more aggressively
its even worse in lategame, lategame has practically no matchmaking
i was mostly not that worried anyway because i was part of a destiny raid group in the past and didnt really have any issues
pubbing in literally any game sucks, why are we complaining about pubbing, it's just how it i
i just cant be the one giving orders lol
died 4 times at the extraction so far
✊
PLEASE skip to r1c1
Yeah and that’s a big accessibility issue which I agree with
IM SO CLOSE THOUGHH
twinning
now I am more experienced and when I go into pubs, I sometimes see people sprinting around and trying to melee hit everything, while waking up everything and miss half their hits and then they call themselves veterans xD
i wasnt going to say anything...
who would ever do that 
LMAO
i do appreciate that bots get to shoot and not wake things up


