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Sawed off I just like spraying everything
I’ve only ever shot my friend once with the sawed off because he stepped in front of me as I clicked the trigger and completely tanked the shot meant for a shooter.
He went down instantly lmao
They’re… alright.
I don’t like a lot of them but I only tried them when I was new to the game (with the exception of the s870) so maybe they’ll feel better now that I know the game better
When a gun lets me press left click and the objects in front of me no longer exist? It’s a good gun
True.
That’s why I used to run the scattergun but I’ve tried to stop leaning on it so much
I’m biased
Team fortress 2 made me love shotguns
Or just high damage weapons
It just just high damage
I played Demoman in that game so I don’t get that same translation but with the mine deployer

Hit an air pipe
Used to queue on 2fort just to practice midairs on trolldiers jumping around
2fort???
No, Hightower
yeah it was Hightower
It’s been a couple years lmao
I used to tertiary Pyro so I’d end up watching you fellas a lot
The dispenser is amazing team heal and the sentry is god tier area denial it’s my duty 🙏
It started with like engi making me want to play deep rock galactic
And that went into GTFO
I don’t remember what got me into GTFO, but I know it was because of horde shooters.
DRG is an amazing game.
I love that game.
I loved it for the first 100 hours or so
I prefer GTFO over drg cause at some point a switch flipped and it got pretty boring
Then I started using anything that wasn't Scout and it feels so slow I get bored
Yeah really.
The lack of like really different enemy types is definitely a factor
I don’t know what it was but I tried every “gimmick” build in the game and only a couple are viable enough for me to use on higher difficulties (I’m bad)
Driller I kinda liked but nothing beats zooming around the caves
Special powder inshallah 🙏
I played flex for my team so that basically meant gunner
Gunner is so boring in my opinion
Needless to say I prefer heavy tf2 way more than gunner
I have everybody else promoted to high silver or higher but Gunner is at like low level 3 star bronze or something.
Gunner is fun when you…
Honestly can’t think of anything
Shooting weakspots are occasionally fun
I miss meaty shots that the gunner primaries just don’t have
Gunner is only fun for me when I run that one overclock for the minigun that sets fire to everything in front of you + that revolver mod that increases damage to burning enemies by like 400%
It can’t fill the tf2 hit ping sound shaped hole in my heart
That’s so real.
Nothing brings a smile to my face like firing a pipe into a group of enemies and getting like 4 hit sounds at once.
The humble caberknight:
Troldier
i am still practising keyboard i think if i beat r1d1 with keyboard i think am good enough
The better you are at KB+M at GTFO the better off you will be... some later expeditions I can't fathom using a controller. I do use controller for platformer games
You CAN use one
Stick drift will kill you
Toggle sprint will kill you
No aim assist will kill you
However, you can insta dodge whenever you want, run sliding is pretty smooth and if you're good at gyro you can make things work with a few hours of tinkering with binds
hypothetically I can play with a DDR Dancepad too
i have done 70h with controller
i ended up doing rundown one no knowege 3 bots
the knowege one hurt 3 auto turrets and bio r1c1 3 bots
am learning the game as well
Rundown 1 is mainly an extended tutorial as I've heard others say, and I'm inclined to hold that point of view myself after the madness I've seen since
It's introducing you to common objective types and common enemies
i know
it was only like 60h
just i had no outside knowege so 3 auto turrets and bio r1c1 sounded like a good idea
but now i see that sniper and burst is far better and that mines and c fome are not useless yippee am just learning keyboard for the first time
I hope that reactor start up isn't common bro😭 🙏
💔 🥀
I hate reactor start up bro
They get better
What is the reactor start up in r2? Is it r2c2😭
d2
r8 doesn't have any reactor startup main objectives
I know what rundown im going to play:clueless:
||uhm acshually R8E2 Secondary is mandatory so it's "part of Main"||
technically r6 does not have any required reactor startups either
clearly this guy hasn't seen the oob
How menny waves bro😭 🙏
nvm i forgor d3
ye i blanked on it mb
it is 10
Damn i was actualy right😭 🙏 me and bro could barly do 8 last time
Zed already washed smh
sure
two times three equals six
this is a reference sky gets
so right
i think we run something chill for warmup and then send e2 mayb
sure
ok i think i have keyboard down well enough
finished r1d1 with me and all the bots on ok
Now you have to do r2, good luck
well i want no bots 70h of bots is getting boring it was my second clear first was with controller
am learning keyboard
and i think i have learnt well enough to not be a liability
and i have done the a and b levels of r2
I highly do NOT recommend playing without bots
why
with real people
i have done r1a1 r1b1 without bots solo but thats about it
:(
whats wrong with him yeah the bots are idiots but shooting them is dumb
sometimes the bots will put a precision rifle shot through my skull and i deem it appropriate to shoot them back in that scenario
Haha bots am I right guys??
fr
Except Hackett. Love that guy.

Hackett is the dumb one, he keeps selling me and bro out
Can we do like a my little pony watch together marathon or something
Hackett got funi voicelines
All i here is "il do it"🤷♂️
Thats it🤨
guys can we watch party the my little pony offspring music video
guys can we watch party the my little pony offspring music video
the "gonna go far kid" one
what happend to the brony people anyway
did they all die
hope so
oh right
does this count as upgrade or downgrade
I unironically used to watch that offspring cover when I was a teen
I just liked the song
hmm
I'd say upgrade
wanna pub in a bit sky
I'm almost done
if not I'll just play ror2
ror2 angle prob
huge
guys
real talk
like i can't see player names on gtfo anymore
i played both vanilla and modded and they don't show up
why is my gtfo broken
You were too much of a heretic
Did you check hud settings
Gtfr randomised your computer's character set and now can't read any standard unicode
yeah
i mean i only have crosshair opacity to 0
Mb team I accidentally deleted ur files
Chat I lied. I will try again tomorrow if anyone down. Im still on R1C1
Anyone know the best rundown to start for beginners? Besides rundown 1 as I did it already
r2
R2D1 is kicking my ass
i was stuck on r2d2 for like a week
thats just me tho
you could maybe 1st try it who knows
i think r6/r7 also get recommended but add new mechanics way quicker
Welp I heard good things about R4 and R7
these lore logs are a bitch n a half to get
when the r5d1 log
stuck on r4b2 and i found out like 3 days ago that there was lore logs thanks to whats his face (i forgot his name)
scaler?
no
I haven’t touched the lore logs yet. Didn’t even know they had them until I finished R1
better than getting to r4 and then finding out
only a few terminals in r1 have them and a few can be quite out of the way to get to (looking at you r1d1)
Yeah r1d1 was something. Anything worth going back for?
fuckin 4 lOGS IN R1D1
i dont think the r1d1 logs even had much on em
lore is lore
2 are pretty much job positions of random dudes, 1 is a mars expedition pretty much unrelated to the main stuff and 1 is my guy state of truth am
Think I’m just gonna focus on logs as I play. I heard the lore isn’t that good until a few rundowns in.
true
Хто/Шукаю/Укр/Українці - Шукаю людей погратися гтфо пишіть лс
amogus

so
ive been waiting for a cool min but ts takin too long
so imma hop on robloz now
but the duo clear !
im lowkey grandmaster at that game
@fringe gardenit is about to be r4c3 time if u want in
he crashed out in bed
lmaooo alright
i just know he really wanted to do that level with us so i figured i'd czech
he was like
🇨🇿
if that person doesn't make an lfg in the next 20 minutes i go sleep
is this the real lore tho
yeah
Why
he said eh was tired
😔
guys can yall stop stealing sky from our pub? need him to lock in frf
pub
r4 is kinda ass forr beginners ngl, it expects u to know to deal with things
r7 i would only do only r3
the rule usually is just, go in order till u get stuck
only r1 u can complete top to bottom andn then the rest r fair game
I really want to try and complete all of r2 but the way it’s looking some of these levels are just ass
Nothing like permanent alarms
r2 has like 2 real permanent alarms that aren't just go straight to extract
3 if you count a reactor as one
@hasty bobcat average sky carry lmao
na na i did nothing
Uh huh
r2d1 🤢
r2a1 😃
r2d2 😠
if you want to complain about errors you should check out r4
Try R4E1
Haven’t done an E mission yet. Ended up playing R3A1 and then R3B1
R6 could also be a thing to check out
How about u c d’s nutz?
Think I might try my hand at R2D1 but with all that infection I’m not sure
😐 keep yourself safe
Pub it 🙃
I thought we were lovers😔
r2d1 💔 ts boring af
feels like i got a 9-5 job
do r2d2
esex is cr4zy
Frfr
Crazy?
I think it said there isn’t any fog collectors on the map
There are fog repellers tho🙃
Of r2d1. And need to play r2d1 to unlock d2
U got this techno
r u the one that asked for cool newie rundowns or
that level is painful and boring
i would suggest u just go r3
zero vibes
when played slow, fast is fun
Yeah I think so yesterday
🎣
then yes i would jsut say jump to r3
moreso cuz r3 A tiers are tutorials for r2d1 and r2d2
fr
thats what i say when i go to the slot machines
me
Fax tbh
r5 easiest rundown by far even easier than r1a1
Sounds good I’ll try that. R3A1 was pretty easy
GAMBLING 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
stop letting the voices get to you
🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑
E = Easy
we require a new randomizer gtfo
devs dont want to give u the fun early on
fished
Exoad we need gambling GTFO frfr
GamblingTFO 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
gup
guys may i ask what the NMMA role means?
I put Gay in "Gayagettin up, non will be left behind" everytime I play CO-OP/Team game
the G in GTFO stands for Gaymers
anyone awake and wanna help me do r6cx?
Bet
Is that the double uplink level with a HSU as secondary?
nope, its the 3 uplinks on the other side
With the big ass tower?
yep
F’s if yall don’t have stairs fix frfr
Actually “random bullshit go” mission
@fierce palm cmere
Lonely ahh in the vc
nah bruh
ILL BE THERE SOON BB
I just got in here dumb ass
Just dont do the bottom Uplink First 
lord have mercy
I just realised dude how many hours you have so far
Cuz youve been here for like less than 3 and done the game
no
Oh god
3 minutes? Crazy
He means 3 hours. Not that good
Yeah sorry I meant seconds
Watchu playing?
Why you ask
Mmm
1+
Nah
yes
Nah
Sp3ctre has been known for a while now, last time o checked it was at 1.5K and that was February
Bro joined at the end of feb tho how tf
Unless he rejoined
He did
Ahhh
Wanted to get rid of roles
So it aint as bad as I thought
He had the content creator one but he stopped uploading so instead of going to mods he just ripped the bandaid off and left and rejoined
I think I remember my first time seeing him, think it was summer 2020
So bro redid the game again for the fuck of it

Gonna kiss you now
Bro definitely Has been playing since 2020
what is bro on about
Fr fr
Reported frr
Reserved for malefic only
bro wafling on about nothing
Anyway back to the topic
I love gex say
R2D1 best level
U deserve getting fished
how'd you even fall for this
Its the gtfo server
True
Oh so that was the guy that carried
Who tf is eva dawg
Foundation for the R5E1 level being in the comp
How am I being trolled man
Sign my cheeks
l y s
Mods, twist his balls
Mods, send him to 5E1 cell skip pubs
Meanwhile my teammate with scatter “Do I shoot now?“
Frfr
When sky and some other people was carrying me I pulled mom door too soon
Once
Another time I ran hammer first into charger whilst my scatter was at 58%
Never again
Good times
Sweet suffering 
Ghostly and I accidentally brought a very new player to R6D1 lmao
CBT or sum idk
Whats a better intro to the game than chad squidward
I see no problem here
Good times good times
Attack on glaggelland
NO PLEASE
Attack isnt even that hard dawg
No shit it aint
But the mental fortitude to sit through the rundown itself is pain
4 levels buh
4 levels of bullshit
Glaggleland tho
Now thats different
nahh
Attack is pure shitpost
Real
only fnaf and one other level I cant do solo
Fnaf is straight silly
The last I deffinitly could but cant be arsed to put in the attempts
First level imo is the best
Second is the glaglites
Or the greglings
Whatever they called
greglings I believe. The strat is to just kite them around the cat walks and get some sniper shots every now and then
Greglings?
tools for r4a2 ?
4 cfoam
kek
Just Take the anti giggle Device. It 2 taps them lmao
I think Tripp burst and one bio, depends if ur doing secondary tbf
Pulls an uno reverse and 2 taps you
if we are
is that the optimal loadout?
Imagine Not having flow at 100%
Scaler is recommending mines 2 sentries and bio
Imagine not gagling on the greglings 
[[R4A2]]
You’ll need the routing
3 sentries is more than enough 3rd sentry can be subtituted for mines, but it barely matters
Its an A tier
4 mines
its rly just 2 sentry + bio and then mines or sentry for whatever you care
Dont. Fucking. Say. That. Level
Install the Lobby expansion and add 16 bots
Yknow what
Clone wars but GTFO
5B1 best level in the game
Fair, Will this still be accepted for the speedruns?
Surely surely
Sad to see birth controls aren’t 100% effective
Frfr
Should have been the condom ad
Waiting for a slip up and one of it’s from a corn server
Malefic owns all the corn servers
No
Ohhhh
@lost lynx is the CEO of sex
Sign my cheeks rn
If a door is open, does an alarm in another zone wake up sleepers in that region?
no, alarms are silent
the enemies that alarm spawns however are not
and same for gunshots
how far do gun shots alert?
50 meters away, but every time it crosses areas/doors it gets reduced -20 meters immediately
ok so I'll be fine
If you believe hard enough your hammer will do all the work for you
pointy hammer*
I thought it was 30?
And aren’t two rooms away silent?
its 50
three rooms away are always silent
two rooms are usual silent because theyre probably more than 10 meters apart
...
back to the stealth guide you go

depends
realistically you dont care unless you wanna do "haha funny shotgun sentry stealthy" moments
but then you are running shotgun sentry
it was more for holding an error alarm choke while clearing the next room
i thought you could use it without alerting the next room but maybe im misremembering it
if the sentry does enough so that you dont need to shoot -> then just melee
if the sentry doesnt do enough so you need to shoot -> then you are shooting and it doesnt matter
we're playing true duo so it helps
r3c1
yea just shoot all the rooms once the error starts (obviously try to kill the scout)
especially in duo you rly wanna push together and shoot rooms
(easier on north side with only 2 rooms vs west)
ic
we always let one of us defending with sentry and another fast stealth
ill try shooting everything the next time
it helps if you are carrying the right (aka strong) weapons to kill chargers easily
say someone running bullpup and Precision rifle wont have a good time shooting the chargers at any point
sawoff + hel gun and hel revo + hel rifle is the default loadout and theyre great at dealing with chargers so we shouldnt have much trouble
i swear it is, enemy is in room 0, room 1, room 2 you can shoot in
i swear youve done that in speeds too where you went out of a room to not alert a mum in a diff room
50/30/10
10 meter rule (not to be confused with 10 meter rule (shadow giants))
damn
I did this in runs to avoid wakeups yes
so if i shoot and smth is within 10 meters of me and 2 rooms away it gets alerted?
doesnt that just not happen lmao
it's rare because if an enemy is 2 rooms away, those rooms almost always provide more than 10m between you and the enemy
easy scenario
R6AX 2nd alarm
if you didnt clear the last room of the zone with giants
yea
and shoot during the alarm they can be spawned close enough to where you are
ive never had a reason to play that way lmao
like if theres an alarm somewhere i usually clear at least two rooms from it cuz stuff is gonna spawn there
If playing chronologically what level do yall think the difficulty really starts to kick in
R2 my guess?
late R2
for beginners r1c1 for vets r2e1
for zed never
na im dying in r3c1 rn it's so ass
i don't appreciate it when i get hit by 20 chargers at once on extract (waves spawned behind me while running there)
should've been faster 
na i just didn't roll trippy to use in fog big door
Exactly
Why are you a responsible Gentleman sleeping at such times
Couldn’t be me.
10/25/25/50 for Shotgun/Burst/HEL Auto/Sniper
If enemy is in a different room from the sentry then there is an additional requirement that they have LoS of the sentry.
So sentry right around a corner won't alert anything in a neighbouring room
(There is no LoS requirement if enemy and sentry are in the same room and unlike guns there is no room distance 'fall off' for being in different rooms - just the added LoS requirement)
fascinating
For extra trivia: mines behave similarly to a shooting sentry with a 20m range. However their LoS point is typically located inside the floor/wall so they're almost always silent when placed in a different room from an enemy.
Extra extra trivia: mines (and probably sentries too though I'd have to check) use the room of the player at the time they were placed for determining which "room they are in", so you can do funky stuff by placing them across a room boundary
Daily report for R1B2 true solo endeavours, still stuck on extract, I aim about as well as a fucking storm trooper, and istg if this game gives me 1 more human proximity booster I will loose my mind :)
See you all tomorrow
Touch deprived frfr
are you running out of ammo
or just dying to bad shooting
Ammo isn’t my issue honestly
I’ve been running Hel revo and it’s great so far
Mix of Pump and combat shotgun as a secondary
bullpup >
(have you learned reload cancelling?)
Yuup
Bullpup sniper goated
Saving 1.8 seconds on every reload
No bullpup is great which is very different from Quite Good
Sentry ammo is a big issue for me atm
i'd just not spend any on the class 2
Oh that’s actually a great point
if you do that and loot all the tool you should have enough for class 3 4 and extract
I leave the door open aswell in that area so I can have the door for the class 4 later
Thanks zed, helpful as always :)
Zed da goat fr
“True solo”
You have 4 slots for stuff, no?
I don’t see the issue here
7
Boosters don’t count
They do
man is it time i finish r2 solos and actually go long kite r2e1
You can’t inject a biotracker
Yes, I’ll quick melee the extract alarm
Watch me
Yo?
Doing what we all thought was impossible
Come on, moth! Show us the utility of the biotracker!
Any pingurs
Lowkey I can’t line enemies up without bio
Tbh, bio tracker and glow sticks got to be the most useless items in solo runs
Glow sticks in general honestly
The humble foam
I love C foam
I love the old cfoam
bio is rarely the tool in solo, (since you need tools to compensate for lack of firepower) but it still makes it into a fair few solos because bio is just that good
Exactly
R1D1?
r1d1 is sentry probably
R6BX might be a contender
stand at back of bridge take hel rifle and win
The humble funnel plus two hel weapons
Revo and hel gun?
hel revo hel gun is good and based but
sawed off hel rifle makes it kinda free
revo is like a top 5 gun in solo, especially for anything without chargers
(this is my opinion, others don't really agree with my revo rating)
All I know is it kills fast, reloads fast, and I don’t feel like a nerd holding it like I do with the Dmr or carbine
revo having infinite uptime and great ttk into smalls is what makes it good in solo
Lowkey I can’t without pings
wall for beginners (due to knowledge) - R1C1
actual difficulty kick - R2D2/R2E1
You are cooked bro. I hope you have one person to play with at least🙏
huh i didnt think r1c1 was a knowledge check tbh
its something u can actually just beat with aim
r2d2 and r2e1 def not tho.. its pretty much neccesary to know those levels
It's item spawn luck+knowing how to fight well and use the terminal
tru item spawns can make a big difference
if they all spawn at the very beginning it will be cringe
you can largely shuffle those around though
there's enough per zone
R1C1 is also the first time prisoners are absolutely required to use a terminal
r1c1 has 0 rng in resource spawn
resource per zone is same always and you never have to move packs anyways with decent guns and shooting
It depends, the game me and bro wone on we didn't have that much room to shuffle stuff with, all of our loot droped in the first areas so we couldn't acess most of it
as zed said, there's 0 RNG associated with resource spawns per zone
the only RNG would be splits between packs
(0 is a bit overblown - sometimes you can get a 5 use instead of a 4 use and a 2 use, or similar, but it's only ever +-1 use of any given resource which in the grand scheme is irrelevant)
I have seen some beginner teams move the ammo and tool around mainly, but it's not wholly necessary
i think its kinda a big deal if packs spawn in the back of zones vs front
can be significantly closer to run for
We had to move ammo in caus all the lockers had was health and a bit of tool
you can move it around and doing so does help
but it is not necessary, even when solo you can just play with what you have given
this is just wrong, resources per zone is constant
if you say you didn't have any ammo in a given zone you just didn't find it
or someone took the ammo and didnt say anything 
godlander grabbed the ammo and immediately left the game deleting that ammo from the level
Nah, the zone we were in had like on ammo pack in it and it was. A low ball so we had to move some in
maybe engaging with a low level shitposter doesn't yield much
Idk maybe a bot ate it.
talk so much shit that when you're being genuine people still think you're trolling
Power move

wait till u find about r7d2 😳
I bet godlander is possesing me and bros hackett and makeing him do stupid shit to trow me and bros games🙏
im fine as long as im not dauda
dauda canonically cant say "please" so hes just a bit of an asshole
hackett spam "lets not do it again"
Arn't all the charecters assholes💀
I'll take that over bishop's inverted combat lines
is that the one where u spawn in with a massive shadow error and it evolves as u do terminals
Yes and no, depending on what zone you open up decides what error alarm gets added
its the one with like big charger scout room and then u just keep running
u dont spawn in with an alarm
Yup
there are only 3 expeditions in the game I can think of where you spawn into an alarm (warden protocol doesn't count for this number)
r3d1 r4e1
Yes
A what alarm💀
it's not too bad dw about it
Welcome to GTFO
Error alarm
Constant enemies spawn
It's like 3 per wave
Every 30~ seconds
It gets worse in other levels don't worry
4 per wave
That sounds like the end of level alarms
correct
yes that’s correct except it’s present the whole mission
Im guessing that there are sleepers too in the level
Yes
Yes
You have to do actual alarms, look for objectives, stealth while the error is on
It's not as bad as it sounds
For now
This is fucked up💀
at least 4 cause r2c2, r3d1, r4e1, r6d4
d4 right
Ah right R6D4
Who gave the deves evil juice bro💀
R5B3 is extremely close to being 5th but it’s a door activate in spawn room
d4 is peak :(
Level so bad it tramatises the good players💀
d4 is peak for like 4 dimensions and then spitters and then it's peak again
I love shining my flashlight at a spitter and it still going off cause I'm client
Skill issue
Just don't suck at the game bro🤷♂️
10 chambers moment
host should always be on lrf spitter duty
Foam the spitter
i love when modders think that max infect + fog + spitter spam + no repellers is fun level design
PEAK
i forgor was it the game we played @pure belfry
i went from 20 to 0 instantly just from spitters
so many of them stacked up
that was so loud too lol
Only on ones at uplink terminals lol
Me when modders add 30 enemies with 1000HP that do 50 damage and spam them through the level
R8D1
ah yep
I'm trying to look into this actually
as Host spitters are still annoying but far more bearable
i mean idt there is much to look into
spitters are host side
so client ping makes them awful
i want a flashlight power booster that destroys spitters instantly when u flash them
You have one already
It's called "bullets"
yes??
iv never tried that lmao
they go off and come back as per normal
i know u could foam them but i never tried shooting them
it doesn't kill them or anything
yeah, but we do have StaggerSync and DamageSync/KillIndicatorFix, so I wanted to see how possible it would be to better sync Spitters
ngl spitters would be fine if there was a way to permanently remove them using bullets
even if they come back like respawn rooms it'd be fine
just remove them as long as someone is standing there
can't wait to factor spitter kill potential into weapon balance
hel autopistol suddenly top tier bcos of spitter kill efficiency
short rifle too lol
Every main is bad because they are not hel shotgun or hel revolver
or sawd off
hmmmm i woul place hel revo above hel shotgun personally
even if killing spitters were possible, I don't think it would really matter except in extremely dense spitter zones like R6D2 or R6D4
it's kinda not close
hel shotty is as much better over hel revo as sawed off is over hel shotty (significantly better, that is)
but it depends on level a lot, and just personal playstyle
i think hel revo is more versatile overall
but i agree that if u like playing close range hel shotgun is just better
but also also, with a muted main dmg booster the hel revo goes insane
with muted main dmg dmr wins
there is absolutely no rng for spawns in r1c1 if you arent solo (and even when solo its not a big difference)
nah hel revo becomes a dmr
it can also one tap
but also pierce
dmr has better range tho
dmr has range and kills shooters and also just has bigger mag and better reload
you dont need to move loot at all
Also its only different positions in the zone itself, the loot doesnt move between zones
Me and bro looking for all the loot(the bots eat it all)
the bots refill as u need
bots dont open lockers
and bots dont take things out of lockers if a player is close to it
u can control what bots take fairly easily
actually i lied bots can open breakable locks
but it doesn't open the locker
with bots no
ah ic
it does if u break it
Me watching the bot with lockmelter not use the lock mealter🤡
as if it mattered kdmskd
I disagree with this
hel shotty has more potential than hel revo. But it does suffer from uptime and range issues
hel revo is like the peak of an actual main weapon (or rather above said peak balance wise)
Hel shotgun is a special (albeit balanced for main numbers) in a main slot. So it has defined weaknesses, said weaknesses just dont matter that much when you play hard into its style
sawed off is straight up just a special tho in main
they wont touch a lock if a player is close to it
u have to stand like 5m away
it is pretty annoying to get bots to use lock melters
Bots are weaping angels istg
Bots are dog cause they can't carry me and bro🤷♂️
skill issue
lol
when the bots cant carry you anymore then you know its bad
3 Bots can clear r6c1 entirely without a player shooting or meleeing anything
i will say the bots are def better than pubs at meleeing giants, as long as u position them correctly
(which is very annoying and can take like half a minute of trying)
I still don't understand how Goat can clear R4E1 with bots
I can never get the bots to behave for that long that well
wrong side of doors, standing in enemies, sometimes refusing to stand in bioscans, wont pick up cells
that is a lot to compensate for
you have to evaluate the strength of a gun in the hands of someone using it to its full potential
and it's just the case that hel shotgun gets more done faster in every scenario that isn't pure midrange waveclear
the uptime issues are mostly irrelevant in 4man, 14mag is so generous it lasts entire wave anyways
I consider hel shotty primo surge material
walking in with a mag bigger than combat shotgun (also a good surge weapon)
yea hel shotgun combat shotgun combo is goated
u cry a lil when u have to fight shooters and hybrids tho
my usual go-to loadout is hel revo + hel rifle/scatter
Pure potential would mean optimal situation which is imo not a fair way to judge smth if it has clear weaknesses
Hel revo does not have moments where if you shoot you do nothing or where you sit around doing nothing (reload)
Hel revo is basically always an 8-11/10
hel shotty can go to like 12-15/10 but also drops to basically useless in some moments (in which you just wouldnt shoot with it)
@burnt flume you cleared r4e1 with bots??
this was already discussed back during early r8 tierlists
Hel shotty has higher potential. But hel revo is generally the more useable and applicable weapon for standard play
mb I forgot to draw my summoning circle
you get to pick guns before dropping
the hel shotgun reload spd does kinda hurt
i agree they matter far less in a good time. Not quite irrelevant but not noticeable
The shelling semi automatic pistol is best gun
And a lot of this game is genuinely mid range
maybe
main only
goat when r4e1 or r8a1
oh great job sweetie
🐐
whatever, ty for verifying
usually u kinda dont want them to get close enough during an alarm for hel shotgun to be maximally efficient
thats pretty dangerous
You know what fucking sucked?
I was verifying like 2 days ago
then internet crashed
But I tend to preload videos
so I watched like 6 runs
And then had to verify them but forgot
fucking rain killed the internet here xD
????? what kind of housing has rain kill internet
mobile data internet
ouch
is there a reason you verify all times in same category by same players
as in
we had 2 r2e1 runs submitted and you verified both
instead of just the better one
you always verify all
its for game activity and history
checks out
You have no idea
It happens very often in here

A bit of rain or some wind
Rip internet and mobile data
dang sleepers up close are horrific
i thought i was shooting naked dwarves the entire time
Have you seen the Mother’s 2nd face
smash
idk whenever you grab me for it?
wait
you're not talking pacifist are you, you're talking speedrun
r4e1 team is probably long gone, r8a1 happens when it happens
unless you are talking pacifist
but how to r4e1
Oh no
I meant like
Goat when r4e1 or r8a1 (pov)
🐐
But ye I still wanna do r8a1 pacifist
seems very fine all things considered
What does?
r8e1 sec solo no kite no boosters
I’m assuming no cheese either
is spawning infection shooters cheese :^ )
Limburger is cheese
r8a1 pacifist
the strat is a bit wack
but otherwise should be fine ya
funnel -> aggro all -> run out -> foam behind -> do teamscan -> permafoam until error door opens -> foam extract (4 foam launchers)
A lot easier than r3a1 for example
At least in theory
if you need more foam i guess you can slow sneak tool before 1st alarm
dont snatchers break foam faster than u can reapply
i swear there was snatchers in r8e1
A1
hav to wait for door
I did r8e1 already
o
maybe ending will be scuff but other than that it does sound ok if snatchers just dont spawn
hey eva did moth tell you about the category extension idea
The Tutorial Special, everybody can only use the full tutorial loadout
a gimmick on loadout just for gimmick's sake doesn't seem to make a compelling new category
Beating R8A2 sec that way would be funny in particular at least
we already have this execept it's sawed off scatter and it's not even a category
I dont think theres any run that legit takes sawed off scatter as a full loadout
is there an r8a2 but u intentionally pull the bad room
not that it would be tough in some runs
But theres no reason to
bad room?
log room
no why would you
Time loss
Yes this is called me standing next to EVA and missing the shot on zoomer scouts twice
time loss and an immortal pain in the ass
in 4man idt so no
that said i think it's absolutely viable for wr in r5e1 and r3d1
honestly i think it's optimal if you high roll
high rolling for scouts to be meleeable/close enough to shoot is not what you want
Considering the rng you also need
Armored Scout
have to melee it to kill in 1 shot
it's ass to run but the bonus scatter player just means you get to push harder
how much harder do you get to push
and does pushing harder matter if you're already dealing with a timegate
you aren't liable to have hel rifle on either cell or charger that's the main thing i think
but likey, where do you actually push harder?
the only part you could is giant zone
But you rly dont like waking scouts there
cell zone or hub depending on where the extra scatter goes
and pushing too hard means you massively rng gamble
omg speedrunning
hub is already capped
cell zone doesnt need extra scatter at all?
i may also introduce you to the concept of "lose 2 seconds now to gain 10 seconds later", also known as investing time
in my experience cell having 2 scatter would be easier and/or faster than hel rifle but idk i haven't ran for wr so what do i know
sometimes you want to slow down in the moment so you can speed up to a greater degree later
if split strat wasnt just cell timegate at this point it would be cool to minmax cell drop times
but alas
may i introduce you to gambling
fucking new gens
you only go into A, B and C to aggro them
the gamble for C or best D cell >>>>> extra scatter in clearing speed for meh D cell
hel rifle then speeds up scout kills in giant zone
people rly gotta go back to gambling
theres only 2 active speedrunners (unless you count but wesley who hasnt run in a while) who did non log runs
like, reset spam no log runs
I cleared R4E1 Main + Sec for the first time yesterday
@burnt flume when do we make a gen tierlist
With names fitting them
Like bommers, zoomers, gen x etc
name the gens r1 r2 r3 r4 r5 r6 r7 r8 altr1 altr2 altr3 altr4 altr5 altr6 and poor soul
nah
hmmmmmmm
alpha/beta to r1 - ancient gen
r2, r3 - the lost ones
r4
r5
r6 - forgotten children
r7
alt r1 to r6
r8 (release)
r8 (recent)
surely
and then find funny names
r6 can be forgotten children
r1 and older definety have to be smth old
r4 is (from my memory) the gen with the most active vets long time? (was a big boom time for gtfo)
r5 is smth smth hardcore?
alt rundowns idk
What does this mean
i'm trying to remember when everyone joined
what about calling alpha/beta/r1 the ancient gen?
kenny and ray was a long long time ago in alpha beta r1 i think, i don't know much for r2 r3, feels a bit lost to time
the lost ones?
No body played the game untill 2024 trust🤷♂️
like i genuinely can't remember when most people started playing the game
I remember seeing OG R6 trailer, but I never joined until a couple months before R8 release
@mystic moss were you og r4? or earlier
og r4
og r4-r5 feels like the vet generations
I know several folks externally who are OG R5
The best part of most games is the first few patches, can't belive i missed it😭
I recall Chill hating OG R5E1
alpha/beta to r1 - ancient gen
r2, r3 - the lost ones
r4
r5
r6 - forgotten children
r7
alt r1 to r6
r8 (release)
r8 (recent)
yeah chill is a newer player and doesn't have as much experience on og builds
speaking of which should i go boot up og r2e1 and have a gander at those shadow giants
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/786965405863903313 will stream it over disc
Bro i here everyone hateing E levels, but d levels are not that bad so how hard are e levels actualy😭
why do i have 3 different builds of og R2
Anyone need cannon fodder for to finish off their four man? I'm new to the game lmfao

