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and this might be misinformation but i'm pretty sure if you shine a flashlight at one while it's feeling the tentacles facing you will extend further
Dont think so
Dunno if they actually are affected by flashlights at all
I’ve just noticed every time I go into a room they activate
Also goddamn this train is packed af
i don't think it changes the distance at all but you can get them slightly stuck in a state where they continually feel without end
i dont see it on the wiki so i'm lying
if you're aiming to kill them yeah
oh
If it isn’t the .gg wiki it might be true might not be
sprint jump full charge hammer is the msot common way people kill scouts
bro change ur pfp back
nickle respond to the fucking group chat
no i like this one
you animal
It makes them put out their feelers, which immobilises them for the kill
Of course it can also wake up other enemies, and if there's an enemy right on top of the scout, said enemy waking up can trigger the scout (proximity aggro)
this seems like it might be true
This one made me ragequit once
if you flash your flashlight into dauda's eyes he instakills you
this has to be racially motivatedf
cringe..
what are you talking about
yes I am racist
Yes
what are you gonna do about it
Summon soy on u
so what?
As if it isn’t a mc reference
Idk he might do sum might not
gonna kill u with the green cutlery
in repo
Lol
rn?
no i play card game
you suck so many dicks
im playing balatro then going to gym and work
i woke up too late today
so i have like 2 hours of free time
Anything wrong with that?
you sleep late to play alone with your card games
heck, i haven't tried repo
Funi with friends
Sent a clip in #gtfo-media
i don't have many of those 
as someone whos played all the lethal company clones
repo is fire
it's pretty good ngl
just don't watch video guides or shit like that cause like all those games they become boring if you know everything
Play with silly people
where do i find silly people ;0
is there a repo server
I don't know
i'm sure the popular multiplayer game is only twitter community based
I just know
scream and if they scream back boom :3

gaming
Scared me
mb TwT
nah he deserves it :3
oh! nvm then c:
Me when I TK my teammate for the 5th time
me when i glorp
balls..
based....
!
alright, who's doing og r4e1 duo today
how did folks kill tanks in OG R4E1, just BC?
yeah, burst cannon
yes
is there any other good guns
🤤 and it was beautiful and amazing
hel revo has insane stats
see: og r4e1 duo, og r4e1 no burst cannon (Robert, Peter / Gerz, Beep)
so is it a double bc angle
sky trolling that one run we did
im down to duo again at some point
that shit is unironically quite hard
oh god everybody wants to be with me wtf
WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHGHHH
damn
wow
crazy
my god og game looks so goofy
It’s got some interesting quirks
I prefer the feel tho generally
running around hitting occi taps is just really fun
yeah
yeah its fun
Man I wish there was a stamina booster
The humble wemod/mods
I wanna clear everything normally first
Fairs
i've started to think
that maybe knife
is as bullshit, if not more bullshit
than running around in og with occi taps
Until you have to solo a giant
just shoot the damn guy
I've been playing R7C3
eh should be enough cfoam around the place
Yea
Last time we used too much on the charger alarm and didn't have enough for the blood door so we got cooked
I didn't know that at the time
I discovered a fascinating tidbit to that charger uplink
the moment you let the bots near those chargers they will proceed to die
Um who's they
yes bots are bad against chargers
To be completely honest I dont know how people can stomach certain stuff with vanilla bots
like them getting out of a door while you want to foam it
They can walk through walls its fine
likely just because its vanilla and they want that certified vanilla experience. Some people understandably dont want to use or cant in the case of speedruns, any mods
only if you are far enough and not in combat
so if they go wrong side of a door you can be nearly guaranteed they die
i just died during extracting in r2c2, ive never been more devastated in my life
r2c2 so fun

u shld try the other special shorgun
the other buckland
hel shawty
just use ur combat shawty more it's pretty good
no other way to fix it
if ur aim is not that good meaning u need most likely more than 1 shot per small striker, dmr might not be the best weapon
since it's quite punishing if u miss
main weapons in order of range
dmr
dtr/hel revo
carbine
rifle/burst rifle
Thewhat
-
Dmr highest range (works well at it aswell)
-
Double rap rifle technically has 2nd highest, but it stops working well at higher ranges due to the recoil mid burst
-
hel revo is lower range but works pretty effectively at mid-high
-
Rifle and burst rifle both have good but not insane range and also work decently well
-
Carbine is lower than both
i didn't mean "damage falloff" but in terms of effective use range
are you cross mapping shooters or something
Bro wants that boar hunting revo
Carbine doesnt have higher effective range than the lower 2
Those realistically work better at range than hel revo even
i disagree
the base dmg of carbine means that even at range spamming it is effective, even if the ammo ecenomy isn't great
hel revo isn't really range limited, the breakpoints don't change as long as you're hitting the heads
Litteraly half the fall off of burst rifle and less dmg???
you have not shot enemies from far enough away I see
i haven't come across a scenario in which i realistically both shoot hel revo and have the breakpoints worsened by range
range is litteraly the 1 thing burst rifle has over carbine
And you say „is more effective“
i should maybe go use burst rifle more, but idk i just fail to kill as much when spamming at range with it
carbine range lowkey pretty mid
rifle range is technically better than hel revo but id consider it worse since youre hitting more shots at range
yo @junior latch i just saw your banner which was really cool because its like personalized n shi and then i noticed your youtube,,, i have actually seen a good amount of your videos (was along time ago but still), very good work 👍🏾
we're so back
i also watched others i wonder if they are here aswell
maybe, iunno the names
🤯
one guy i do remember was someone starting with s
think there was a c aswell
scaler or something
really? lmao
Yup
Pretty bad as in a pretty bad person?
Had me concerned for a hot second…
You suck
At least I'm not scaler level of suck 🫡
get fish reacted
Thank you, I have no clue what that means.
i have no clue i just like to do it
please tell me everyone that spams the fish doesnt actually know what it means
thatd be so fucking funny
hes neither
scaler is a pretty cool guy and quite decent at the game
His guides overall are quite good, with the level guides sometimes being a bit outdated on knowledge/recommendations
when is parry being added to samdown
Wtf is that cringe
let me parry enemy licks wtf.
Suffer and die.
extirpate might go hard af solo
i saw the trio run after i cleared, insane players
koreans really are built different
Koreans in StarCraft is scary
But… underground fish market…

@silver spade I wouldnt necessarily say speedrunning, But its definetly better if you play it somewhat fast
Tho I disagree that its a drag of a level played normally. It still has good variance and honestly not that much stealth
Playing fast is a completely different playstyle that the game rarely makes players do. Playing fast is the only way to make it fun when you reach a certain skill level
you're R6C2 blind?
@noble rose hop on hybrid
I'm not home
sorry to ask More merch questions but is shipping supposed to be $40 for two items? @hollow quarry 
feesh :3
im sure he doesnt mind (hes in an interaction deficit from being swedish)
okay your display name. why r6bx
first codehunt i like
okay fair
the S alarm before the checkpoint is a gatekeeper for me and my friend cause we're dealing with only 2 real ppl so we're on uhm. try #5
but the codes are fun
before checkpoint = fun
yeah i agree
the cluster alarm in that big room to open that first door is a bitch tho
tbh i just pubbed it
well. it would be easy with real ppl
gonna be 100% honest i have no fucking clue whay that means
like lfgd it
(i run bots 24/7)
its really the bots. they're the issue
i fucking hate them so bad
ive been completely wiped by a single giant like 3 times
cause they run to revive you while getting their shit kicked in
game is way too fun to not play even with bots tho so
yep
Depends on the items I guess, and where it’s being sent. The warehouse is in Swedish. Don’t remember the limit for free shipping
@hollow quarry is there a special thing about the NO x out of 25 or is it just to say limited?
feeesh :3
feeeesh :3

nuhuh thats me
he is a fish
:3
i have defended my spot as #1 fish fan
🐟
#1 chair ig(??
embed fail
the painting is such a bad deal but i still want it lol
i could maybe 3D print it
holy shit thats so pretty
why i want it
cause its amazing
na im meant "thats why"
8 player gtfr is very stable i see
hop on gtfo gambling
Gtfo matchmaking doesn’t like me 😔 anywho what’s the best shotgun?
I like the ability to remove things not just kill them
sawed off
hel shawty
idk how "good" the combat shotgun is but its fun asf
it just fucking dismantles giants and if you're good with recoil control and aim you can mow through strikers/shooters
automatic shotguns hehe
idk if its full auto
Bet
Ty silly people’s
no problem🙏🙏and idk how new u r but honestly just go through and play with every single weapon
even the "bad" ones
have fun with it
its pretty based :D
but yes going through every gun is rlly fun
ive been enjoying the precision rifle a lot
started with pdw, veruta machinegun, and biotracker, now i run mainly dmr, precision rifle or combat shotgun, and c-foam
its crazy how much your loadout changes as you play
what'd u start with vs what do u use now fish/chair man
aaaa
i started on r7 so mostly high cal and pr as they were new, bit of shotgun, and as specials came i wen through all of em
rn immm enjoyin shottie, machinegun, HAR and if i want a clear like bad i go hel rifle, combat shotgun or sometimes scattergun
i like thee autos but im bad with it hard
hel rifle
i tried so fucking hard to like it
cause its SO good
but also the combat shotgun to scattergun pipeline is real
its so nice just decimating hybrids with it
get scattered nerd
also which machinegun :3
veruta i dont like the other one :]
based
sometimes i miss playing with it
its so good at just fuckinf destroying strikers
the arbalist has a better scope methinks
although i think veruta is easier to hipfire
i just dislike arba reload terribly, u cannot cancel it whatsoever and the bullets update a couple frames after the mag goes in
didn't notice that tbh
do most special weapons have longer reload animations than main weapons
it's independant prob
heard
if you average it yeah id think so but its weapon dependant
I know They have the longest
I think Veruta is the longest and then it's hel shotgun
Veruta without cancel is 4.5 seconds
no, its 4 seconds straight up i thinkç
I'm pretty sure it was 4.5
and yet u play it
i'd have to check I might be wrong
😔
wiki says 4
doesn't change that the gun is cooked
Doesn't change my love for my baby
I think Hel shotgun also lacks one
Someone told me about it, I never played it myself so i didn't test myself
isnt it sniper
also hel shotty reload is 3s iirc, without reload cancel
okay i was askin cause veruta has a stupidly long reload so uh. nice to know its the fuckin longest lmao
idr how long sniper was

sniper is flat 4
you can cancel it to 1.7 though
and it doesn't cancel
switched from one slow reload to another slow reload
Veruta ahh reload
how viable is sniper..
I think it's very close to veruta maybe like 3.5. Me and my duo would sometimes reload at the same time and he would finish a bit before i did
would u be willing to explain what u mean by that
i want to use the sniper lmao
oourgh okay heard
it's good for specific levels
It did well for us on R5B1 overload
i think sawed off did well
It's great for shooting hybrids from away
im fairly sure its 3s with no reload cancel, now wether reload cancelling is faster with it or not im not sure
I only shot bbc's with and hybrids from 10 meters away
I was mostly shooting smalls and giants with veruta
But it did do well
😔
it's a good gun
do u run sawed off and veruta
yes
???
u run sawed off
omg thats my friend's loadout too
is always the answer
do u use biotracker
it doesn't change reload is cooked
I think it cannot cancel, my friend told me it can't but i am not sure
Sometimes
i prefer sentry but sometimes i go bio if my duo wants to go sentry
hel shotty does indeed cancel
u can cancel
not by too much but it does
Good to know
whether it actually saves you meaningful time or not
dont give numbers you pull out of nowhere
im not sure
everything above 3 is the same
nah only give the beginners bullshit numbers its a good idea
no...
trust
if cancel is .2 seconds or more its worth, if ites less eh
sniper has 3.5s reload and a small cancel at this point (was a lot bigger before the nerfs)
nahh
I used to hipfire with it sometimes
before nerf
back in the days
I can't shoot my gun for 3.5s
or more like
I shoot twice and need to wait for 3.5s
it's cooked
no
Take Veruta so you can shoot more before you reload
it was a niche but good niche choice
then they buffed its alternatives into multi broken status and nerfed it down
yes, and they buffed scatter
for some reason
oh good lord
anybody able to give me the word?
starts with P and has 8 letters
im stupid u cant do that to me
panorama
what does that mean...
ITS TRYING TO TOUCH NE AAAAH
u run into a toucher?

speaking of ive seen people talking about jumping with hammer to kill scouts??
what does the jump do, is it just to gain extra height
Yes
probably get the guaranteed headshot and 1 tap
If you don't jump you might hit the body
I'm not getting into this agane
yes today
(Wouldn't be suprised)
is there beef with hammers
All the meele are cool
Finna try that rq
how is the "Pure Will" achievement? it doesnt seem that bad, or am i just being naive? Assuming applies to the whole team
apparently guarantees a free kill
idk
i dont know anything about the other weapons i always used spear i cant do anything else lmao
is aight
just assume ur on 20 all the time
it's how u play game anyway
20% is health the rest is armor
until you run past 40 enemies 
||surge|| alarms average moment
R2E1
but it's 25 !
you play better when you're at 20%
R8C2 moment ngl
R7D2
u play safer prob
okay so gifs dont work in chat, sad trombone
R7D2 honestly never spams that many enemies at once
run into blood doors the simulator
I’m on like… the second lvl so I totally understand this
So it must be way better than i remember
xD
i remember fighting for my life
i assume it's just
its ngl the worst point of the run
3 of u defend a plug guy
by far
"defend"
Run into every blood door
but it's prolly cooked anyway
we try to get to 1st door
and then they are by themselves
"Goodluck we will go to extraction"
yea
ngl weve gotten so many scout wakes
it just is what it is
ye
level is so stealth heavy
the level is just fucked on ammo
i probably do lmao. like. idfk how to play this game.
you can 100% shoot up everything
I wonder what's the wr for R2E1
pmuch
Beautiful
holy
kinda funny how r5e1 is the fastest E tier
considering normal route is probably the slowest
e2 rn
surely we get the 14min r8e2 clear to change that
Do it in a minute instead
we just need to get the ammo in 1st alarm, 2nd alarm, gen hub, 1st cell path (at least 2 use out of 10), 2nd cell, 3rd cell and some from 4th cell zone
which sounds insane
but is legit not too bad
its all the ammos
we basically leave about 8-14 uses behind
i cant believe r4e1 main only is faaaaar easier ammo wise
r4e1 main legit only sucks if you get all split spawns
cuz then you cant carry shit
and you need a 4 use med
we shot our entire shadow zone
like seriously there was no diff between any% and 100%
in shadow zone
except the fact that we tended to actually have hp
yea there's no diff but it still sucks
maybe we played bad but it felt really cooked
idk for us it felt pretty chillish
but yea like legit
R8C2s worst part are the datasphere plug zone, the 2nd blood door (imo) and having to deal with the wacky stuffed shadow blood door zone.
ammo is a bit rng cuz if we dont get most (we usually get time to loot while cells moving) we just die
we had a few "moments" but that's about it
can see 2 charger zones being pulled
and it's just jukt
cooked
is there any charger zone we dont pull? xd
the worst moments were unpinged shadow giants tgb (which shouldnt be an issue with lrfs)
wdym 2 charger zones?
which one?
after shadows
the last one we dont pull
its so free
theres barely enemies
cell spawns are super easy to access
do we want lrf tech in r8c2 tho?
we check for a few ammo spawns
i was wondering about it and it might be the play
oya if cell is accessible then def
I think having one can be helpful
I think we try my plan with 1 lrf or so
the spawns are all quite chill (aside from tank zone, which you gotta full kill anyway)
mri scan could be classified
but its fun
honestly beginning is kinda
but in the worst way
how many scatters
yes
we have 1 knife
should be fine
HELLO . can somebody tell me why i see in youtube mission r3c1 in the end . there is so low mobs
in my mission there aare spawn in 10 seconds when i killed last wave
its a bug/?
Which video?
for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDI7sdok3jE
the error alarm spawns 3 enemies every 20 seconds
no-no
3 chargers
one mob is added every minute
1 minute in its 4 enemies
2 minutes in its 5
and so on
lol
It actually caps super quickly
so next question
@gusty burrow
r1c1 . last missoin on the r1 . me and mu premade have desynchronization
all try 2 be host but every time desynchronization
yeap ./ r1d1
reactor and 10 wave

^
if you have desynch problems but you can start the lobby that means one of you has shit connection
all group have bad connection?
in the other missoin its ok
Reactors make it more appearant
so everytime i matchmake with other players it purs me in a different expendition than the one i want,can i do something about it?
its be like i have 1 min to left my friend told me he have 30 second
dont use ingame mm
make your own lobby
and you can use LFG in here
.t lfg
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ok thnx
pray to god you get the good HSU room
i come in hsu room and bots started be stupid
didnt shout
stay in 1 position
hate this idiots
huh
every 5 times
I don’t think it was
And then you had R5B3 gen cluster tile and R5C2 gen cluster respawns
I replayed it like a month ago and I don’t remember it being
OG or pre-nerf?
OG
I remember that not being one when we first did it
But it mightve been changed on og pre nerf (similar to r5b1 having bbcs, chargers AND a scout in hsu zone for like 2 weeks)
Yeah, there is a per-nerf R5 ver.
With some giga-cringe respawns
I don't think it was even an Ext nerf, I think it got nerfed before Ext
But I don't recall for sure
^
iirc ext had some other minor touchups
but for example the early nerfs included r5c2 hub zone no longer respawning scouts
or the scout and bbcs being removed from b1 hsu zones
:)
Bruhbruhbruh
OG R5 truly sounds like madness even if it doesnt have Snatchers
how so
It was just a much more intense scan
actually challenging encounter
tanks are so much better when no scatter
Sniper 💀
(or in og r4 when they somehow were a fucking menace)
SHOTGUN
sniper, shotgun, that's about it i think
SHOTGUN
Sniper and shotgun
what was in og r5
i don't recall anyone using shotgun in og r5 tbh
ya they didn't, but we will write our own version of history
r5 had overpowered waveclear but its boss clear was based
time to watch og clear videos
Why would you
You had hel gun and rifle
I thought the tanks were an error for a long time
shotgun, revo, sniper, combat shotgun, arbalist, hel gun, hel rifle
like an exact reuse of the r5b3 scan error
i think those were all the specials in rotation
I'm trying to remember if there was any other level that got changes.
R5B3 Hybrid respawn was added later, I think
R5B3 blood door hub was a respawn room
Yeah, I said that
oh god those menacing rooms
And a scout :)
Hello fellas
if it wasn't made obvious by seeking feedback and deep interest in the capabilities of modern top tier gameplay in GTFO, I'm wanting to factor that in without just creating slogs or just constant R7D2 mode. I care a lot about polish and fine-tuning level design and enemy design
Since I wasn't around for OG rundowns nor fully capable myself to run at that level due to a lack of game hours by comparison, it's valuable in knowing the pieces that would reasonably challenge in interesting ways based on the precedents that the game has, both now and during original time-limited rundowns
ngl
you can make the game vastly harder than vanilla
og feels like
all you need to know
the captain alpha r5c2 clear had 3 hel rifles, 1 sniper, 3 smgs, 1 dmr
crazy time back then
Reached R7E1 today and that was a hot start
Og r5c2 had the cooked overload
r7e1 first scan is great
:(
iirc I talked about this with you before chill right?
In how so many modded missions are just long for no reason?
That first scan in R7E1 is right along the lines of what I'm talking about being interesting without just being insanely long for no reason
probably
checkpoints are already buggy enough and stuff like R5D1 Sec exists
I complain about it basically every time modded comes up
Is pubdown like this?
no
kinda

a few of the levels have the samdown problem
where they just have 1 fully disjunct section after the level shouldve been done
and that pushes it over
The r4 bloat moment
Im also honestly a big fan of modded rundowns that kinda try to follow the typical rundown difficulty dynamic (they can end up higher obviously, but starting out more chill)
It shows that making an easy level and making it interesting just isnt super easy ngl
I know exactly what you're talking about, I call that level bloat
I'm big into intricately considering level design and combat situations
Oy r4 only rly has that in 4-5/12 missions
personally I just
Unreleased Jishdown might be only fast-paced hard modded I've played tbh.
ignore A-B tiers
Everything else seems very bloated
Petition for lfg madness bc vanilla rundown that's too long for every mission
even C most of the time but a lot of modded take more from C tier PEs in vanilla
so theyre typically ok
it is like walking a dog.....
Man 90 more minutes to download dbd what am i doin
ray its time to just take the most recent build and dump it on thunderstore
I'm going to be using your tierlist to take a tour in cconsole mode and look at how mechanics terrain and alarms are used to hone in on those strong elements
until it pisses jish off enough to open the git
naturally of course, I can't just take just1 persons point of view though, but it's a baseline of somewhere to start so i dont make hot garbage
VR patch first, I think
And then port that into Mixdown
Was talking with a buddy of mine last night about custom sound designs cause he's an audio engineer
he thinks the drop in sound and the sound of a shooter projectile grazing you are insanely loud
the drop i think its wideely known skdmkm
everyone has complained about it
the shooter projectile gazin uuu i never noticed if it is loud
it's like being in a wind tunnel when it happens
I think it should be loud smh
because the tank isnt a threat
interesting
shooters are actual threats
could it be that the sound of the projectile grazin u is instead the projectile hittin something behind like the hybrid barrage
hybrid barrages have a different sound
best bet on triggering the sound in question is waking up sleeping shooters
i dont wanna open gtfo so im just gonna trust ur word
it does get ungodly loud only if it glitches out
but yeah, back to the main point, custom sounds/sound balancing so you dont get crazy audio spikes
otherwise it's a fine volume imo
yeah alright, so you've experienced this thing too
it's only sometimes
i am stuck at lobby with nowhere to be found hte ready button and we are 3 ppl from 4 and in the fourths spot it says waiting for match. its bugged or something?
sounds like so
how i can add friend a person from my party?
You'll need to search their name on steam
are you using ingame matchmaking?
y
so WHOS excited for r5e1 (it was inevitable)
hi im new, dont speak english, someone to play?
.t lfg
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- if I dont die on R8C2
- if I can get free time for the weekend and we get the team together
this is so sad
I'll download gtfo on mobile
I’m excited to see the runs of R5E1
ye
rip
time to graduate
anyone wanna teach me the speedrun?
LOL
when the comp is started we should have a few ppl going around doing it yea
and just lots of sniper misses
it's just sad
and then I just went autopiloting
cuz we were all checked out kinda
instantly throwing zed under the bus is rly funny
like no offence
and he's good
it's just
every time we play he's partially checked out
and he says 'team i don't think i should play'
😔
it is what it is
ye
the motivation does definitely go down a lot once you already have a good time
i was also going through it and feeling that there is not enough experience for a coherent team
me when i see zed
like i was playing fine, minus a few instances where funny shit happened and i was on the verge of exploding because lol goat gets angry (if you can believe it)
but good things still don't happen
the macro guide...
i mean tbf we did have no idea what we were doing and weren't communicating
not a zed issue
I mean itll always take time to learn to play with each other
ye
like i couldn't remember from run to run when we were supposed to do mom scan vs alarm
like I think my team is definitely mechanically skilled but we mainly have good teamplay
ye
definitely, but that period of time gets cut down on if everyone has extensive prior experience
and really i'm the only one in the team who has that
what would you say tests teamplay versus the basic "1-2 guys hold error while the rest push"
so slotting together is a bit rough
4 man pushes are much much better
error holds are awful content
scan optimisation is one thing maybe? idk it feels horrible to say
anything that requires you to commit to something and play around someone or leave it in their hands
I consider R7D2 a 4 man push, what would be another good example of a 4 man push
r5e1
r5e1 hub zone is peak
i get fucking scared every time hani leaves me to solo hammer a giant in 514A while he checks terminal
hub zone comms is peak
pretty much every constraint you could have is on you
to be honest i don't know what i'm doing in hub zone, i just try clear room, stay alive, grab resource pack
eat 2 use ammopack and lie
Alright, noted. I'll pay real close attention to the runs comms
2 2 splits can be good but they rarely are from what ive seen
it needs to be content where both sides have enough to do, and holding an error or fighting reactor waves is not it
and it needs to "swing"
ie each side shouldnt have a steady level of difficulty
I've heard EVA's comms on R2E1 error
imo the best content also features the ability to quickly provide help to the other side but thats hard to enforce a 2-2 split in and typically just ends up as a 1-2-1
have we ever had an error in a modded level that swaps between 2 (or more) waves basically
Changing how you hold the waves while stuff is going on?
where 2 ppl are floating
this is unironically already in my notes because I sure havent seen enough of this
I have a whole spreadsheet and sticky notes going on
funnily enough pubdown has a few of those
r8e2
on this note: what kind of split does R5D2 Z286 code hunt tend to be
hold is meh
I try to force 4 in every time where you just kill a reactor wave and then kill A with the full team
its not a super long segment so its a bit iffy of a segment to try to judge
this is exactly what happened on my clear and I was lucky as hell that the cscout was on the right side of A and I found a cfoam mine in a box to use on the bbc that was like 2-3m away from the smash lock to B
also 3 chargers physically blocking terminal
if you make the split movement too interesting people are gonna try to cheese it to make it easier
imo perfect split content is like the r5c2 pe speedrun
that is ridiculously fun
there is shit that needs to get done all over the map, nothing is stopping you from staying together or splitting off, and theres occasionally things that require all 4 players that you know the timing of
and waves spawn in random spots constantly
last I checked the R5C2 PE speedrun I could hardly believe what I was seeing
and bc its a reactor spawning most of the time it has pacing on its own
its just like
REALLY hard to make good content like this
like theres a lot of problems to solve
r5c2 pe has the floater problem as well
but its not super bad bc typically someone always needs help
and the way reactor waves spawn theres typically an outward pushing force
(ie reactor waves always spawn the direction youre trying to go)
so pushing for a cell will always require fighting enemies in the sleeping rooms
code zones always have shit spawning



