gtfo-chat

[worn kiln]

fair enough

[fossil horizon]

How bout we don't care because it's still 20+- people

[pure belfry]

You’ve convinced me

[hoary crescent]

cell skip?

[gaunt nacelle]

I fucking hate R4B2 (with bots)

Fuck this level lol

Fucking error alarm whilst in a Toyota hotbox

[fossil horizon]

If R5E1 will be without cell skip, I think no one would run it actually

[modern coral]

Being in a speed comp implies it will be w/ cell skip

There is not a category for non-cell skip

[fossil horizon]

But you can always do it that way if you hate urself

[junior latch]

Well

It could be R5E1 100%

[wraith marsh]

eva ur throwing voting for r4e1

[junior latch]

im shifting if necessary

I honestly dont care in the end

but unless its close ill troll vote

Oh btw chill

Youve seen/tried the gtfo hide n seek mod?

[wraith marsh]

nope

I saw the stream pop up but I was doing other things

[junior latch]

its actually rly good

auri is just the goat

[pure belfry]

Is it for every mission

Because if so I’d like to hide in R2D1

[junior latch]

yea

[pure belfry]

R5D1 would also be excellent

[junior latch]

theres some works being done so every player has a personal fog turbine effect

but rn its just that we dont hide in full fog

We usually do smaller ish maps

with teams

makes it so we do multiple rounds

Which tend to last 5-15 min

[gaunt nacelle]

Oob not allowed?

[junior latch]

not actual oob

need to be in map area

And visible (so not hiding IN a texturej

Plan is to do it once a week as a team event on saturdays

[gaunt nacelle]

Sounds fun can’t lie

[uncut thorn]

I am brand new to this game, although i have watched playthroughs of it. I am in team #874 if people want to join me 🙂

[pure belfry]

That’s neat

[burnt flume]

if i made a self centred sarcasm laden hour long video essay on why it's problematic to call someone the goat, would anyone watch it

i am absolutely not making such a thing, for the record

[junior latch]

Id open it

[hoary crescent]

no

[pure belfry]

Glad you’re here, I’m out and about right now but I assume starting from rundown 1?

[junior latch]

Watch 20 seconds

Skip to 43 min

watch 20 seconds

Skip to just before end

then close

[uncut thorn]

yes

[wraith marsh]

way too accurate

[burnt flume]

as you should

[gaunt nacelle]

Id second monitor it

[junior latch]

On 1%

[gaunt nacelle]

Volume? Nah 0% honestly

[hoary crescent]

dude the minecraft movie was so good

10/10

[wraith marsh]

pfft

[shut vapor]

what was your favourite part?

[hoary crescent]

chicken jockey

no

the chicken song

chicken lava song

[cinder garnet]

R2D1 Level done after 17 tries with 2 bots and 2 players

[shut vapor]

🔥

[hoary crescent]

sick

good job

where's my gtfo streamers

[cinder garnet]

Fuck this level

[hoary crescent]

im bored

[shut vapor]

hop on cs?

[hoary crescent]

disgusting

[wraith marsh]

nobody wants to play pubdown

[mossy swallow]

Is R2D2 much harder than D1?

[wraith marsh]

yes

[near stag]

I See you Guys Love 🌫️ 🤿

[hoary crescent]

i'm still stuck on samdown

on deadline now

[shut vapor]

need to usea knife

[wraith marsh]

reject well designed levels, embrace soup with op guns

[hasty bobcat]

i'm stuck in A1

pubs are very rough

[cinder garnet]

[hoary crescent]

pubdown with no falloff guns does seem enticing

the 4 mag scatter..

[wraith marsh]

I saw the fixed version of a1

the vers we played was better lowkey

[hoary crescent]

damn

[wraith marsh]

BBC error > pmom

[hoary crescent]

ew pmom error?

[wraith marsh]

its not frequent

[hoary crescent]

bbc's are always superior anyways

tanks are up there aswell

i'm getting so sampilled with his good levels i won't be able to play pubdown anymore after i'm done with this

[wraith marsh]

you wont be able to play literally any other modded rundown

[hoary crescent]

can i just pay sam to make more levels

how much does he want

[shut vapor]

Sorry what is pubdown

[hoary crescent]

2k 3k?

[lost lynx]

Hot

[wraith marsh]

operation greenhawkdown

by toxic clique

[hoary crescent]

aka

pubdown

[shut vapor]

💀

[hoary crescent]

there are checkpoints tho

they do still break the levels

[shut vapor]

❌

[hoary crescent]

but there are checkpoints

[shut vapor]

Checkpoints

[wraith marsh]

checkpoints ❤️

[pure belfry]

[hoary crescent]

i dont understand

how do people in this server

[shut vapor]

only good checkpoint is a fixed one

[hoary crescent]

play r4e1 r8e2 like

everyday

it's always the same people

[junior latch]

Honestly any checkpoints in modded levels aimed at vets

[wraith marsh]

r8e2 I could play every day ngl

[hoary crescent]

not me

[junior latch]

Just show that the level is badly designed

[wraith marsh]

eva you cant just ask modders to make shorter levels

[shut vapor]

dude if I had a checkpoint in Bliss A2 after the first section I would actually play it more

[wraith marsh]

thats too much

the levels HAVE to be 1 hour+

with fast players

[hoary crescent]

omg r1a1 new player lobby just dropped

[junior latch]

(I dont know the level but… what about removing that section?)

[shut vapor]

It's r7d2 but worse

[wraith marsh]

I think there is the problem that gtfo inherently tends towards bad design and checkpoints mitigate that a bit

like realistically theres only so much interesting you can do while keeping things fully blind friendly

now do modders still manage to make things especially blind unfriendly, yes

but

[shut vapor]

Dak did things to make me blind physically

[wraith marsh]

LOL

[junior latch]

Id love to talk

[hoary crescent]

oh yeah isn't occlusion good?

[junior latch]

but im experiencing a massive headache

[junior latch]

It is

[wraith marsh]

I forget how many levels I didnt play in it but it was ok

if you want hard stuff you will not be entertained

[hoary crescent]

sad

what about survival

[junior latch]

Occlusion is a vanilla like rundown with cool ideas

It actually works like you know

A normal gtfo rundown

Starting out chill af

[shut vapor]

someone hop on redemption, I still need a hardmode clear of D1

not the emoji I had in mind

[pure belfry]

I intend to make modded levels targeted at vets. And I’m really leaning at not using checkpoints because they’re just too volatile, but I also don’t want to create a hot garbage stealth slog or enemy spam nonsense

fully believe in carefully crafted level and enemy design with thoughtful implementation

[shut vapor]

[pure belfry]

I mean just for you quad I can put 50 tanks in 1 giant room

[shut vapor]

isnt that what samdown is

[honest parrot]

That's essentially what happens in the tutorial

The PC just lags like hell

[pure belfry]

only if you cheat to open that door right

[honest parrot]

ye

[pseudo sedge]

ill add checkpoints to my rundown so frosty cant play the rundown and bully me for making shit levels

[shut vapor]

finally, missions I'll be able to beat frosty in

[honest parrot]

Like the 8 people level or just normal ones

[pseudo sedge]

ALL

[lost lynx]

Guys

Can we make an 8 player lobby

Pwease

[pseudo sedge]

r7e1 brazil skip rn surely

[lost lynx]

Omg Pablo dating

[shut vapor]

only if you beat bun bun

[lost lynx]

I will

With the power of cat waifus

[shut vapor]

maybe its time to watch the 1h 40m video of "Entire lore of battle cats"

[pseudo sedge]

i have been getting into watching competitive red alert 3 gameplay

good brainrot

[lost lynx]

Aint no way it's just 1 hour and 40mins

Thats nothing

[honest parrot]

I don't even want to touch that franchise with a two foot pole these days
(battle cats)

I still remember the good old kingdom hearts lore video

[lost lynx]

Its surprisingly a really good game

[honest parrot]

I know

It's also a money hole

[pseudo sedge]

i had a friend with like 100 hours into a battle cats mobile game or something

[lost lynx]

Its one of the OG Gacha games before all the slop

[shut vapor]

Just dont spend any money 4head

[honest parrot]

(I definitely, definitely have not lost my progress on the game like 4 times)

(That is definitely, definitely not why I'm salty)

[shut vapor]

Pablo I'm going to send you a video title, I want your thoughts

[lost lynx]

Oh god

[honest parrot]

I even got a good unit that could actually deal with the second world on my first time going through the game

sadge

[shut vapor]

this man spent $7k USD on battle cats and barely made it past into the future

(The second main chapter)

lord help me if I see him

[honest parrot]

How

With 7k he should at least have one of the more broken characters unless gacha hates him

[hasty bobcat]

what

even me as a f2p cleared galaxy

what is this

and all the cyclones

[shut vapor]

[hasty bobcat]

its jukt

[shut vapor]

don't watch the video, it will destroy your mind

[fringe garden]

sky as a f2p you clear everything and get every unit (you can get catfood and tickets for rolling everything faster than new stuff releases)

[hasty bobcat]

ye

[shut vapor]

I'm almost entirely f2p and I'm at endgame

I should go get cone cat rn

[lost lynx]

almost

so not F2P

[honest parrot]

how many years have you guys been playing battle cats

[lost lynx]

i played back on release

on a shitty Ipad

[honest parrot]

10 years ago or so then?

[lost lynx]

i think that tells you everything

[shut vapor]

I bought 2 platinum tickets near the start of the game content wise and not since

[shut vapor]

since like 2022

[honest parrot]

huh nice

[lost lynx]

bro is not OG

[honest parrot]

How's galaxy cotent btw

I don't touch the game anymore and the farthest I've went is f2p to the future part

And just kept dying to stupid stuff

[shut vapor]

Galaxy has restrictions, and more alien treasures

restrictions like max cost units, deploy limit, row 1 only, rare only etc

pretty fun but like the first 2 main chapters, treasure grinding ruins it

[compact folio]

Though you kinda need to do the treasure grinding

At least its easier now with more stronger units obtainable earlier

[worthy stirrup]

Looking for people to play with. Haven't been able to join a lobby for the past hour. 😦

[lost lynx]

Are you using ingame matchmaking?

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lost lynx]

You can use LFG to find people

And always remember to ask to not be carried

Some people here like to speedrun in newbie lobbies

[rose nova]

n also make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if ur new, be suree to do the tutorial first and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the easiest/simpler ones

[lost lynx]

Bro is on Rundown 4

He is cooked

[final coyote]

anyone doing R2E1?

[hasty bobcat]

na

[noble rose]

na

[blissful dome]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[pseudo wharf]

hey what was the name of that mod that allowed you to change a ton of different settings

almost like a cheat menu type thing minus the actual cheats

[rose nova]

archive?

[pseudo wharf]

maybe

lemme check

i downloaded it and im starting the game up, ill check once it loads in

[mellow hedge]

Probably archive

[pseudo wharf]

yes it is archive, thanks so much!

[idle egret]

man feels nice to hit all your revo headshots

[noble rose]

word

[mystic tulip]

R1C1 is pain.

[idle egret]

yes

it's also really fun

[mystic tulip]

3 turrents, tons of ammo for them, still lost

[thick temple]

are you holding in the reactor room

[idle egret]

did you push forward?

[mystic tulip]

we hold two rooms up at the bridge

[thick temple]

mmm
just gotta improve your shooting then i'm afraid

[idle egret]

also do you scrounge for ammo and heals in between waves?

[mystic tulip]

yeah

was using three round burst smg, probably not the best

[idle egret]

what primaries and supports

oh yeah

you want penetrating stuff

long hallways

[mystic tulip]

using double tap now

and ive got sniper to take big guys heads off

[idle egret]

high cal, trust

shadows show up in that level right?

[mystic tulip]

nah

[thick temple]

no

[idle egret]

yeah sniper isn't terribly ammo efficient

[thick temple]

it's acceptable if you're just using it for bigs
and if you have 3 other people shooting they should be able to handle the rest well enough that you can live with it and have the safety of insta-dead bigs via sniper

[idle egret]

hear me out

scattergun does the same thing and it can take out a pack of the little guys

[thick temple]

yes, but scattergun is so busted it's cringe

[idle egret]

hel gun?

pretty sure I did it with hel gun

[thick temple]

plus, hear me out
on that bridge tile, assuming they're holding in the "normal" (at least to me, idk) spot then the sightlines are really long and you have to run all the way up to them for scatter
and again if you have 3 other special guns on your team that aren't being completely decorative then sniper is totally fine

[mystic tulip]

2 other people, were running a trio and hold from the little area above the bridge

[fathom wasp]

hello

[idle egret]

honestly I'd stand towards the front of the bridge than the back

[thick temple]

it's still passable with trio imo, but you do have to be a little bit better

and i just don't think the overhead thing is all that good

[idle egret]

I did it with a duo and two bots, its not terrible

[fathom wasp]

i bought gtfo recently

[idle egret]

welcome to the complex

[fathom wasp]

anyone wants a new buddy?

[thick temple]

cause then they're moving in 2 axes on your screen, whereas if you're inline with them then they pretty much only move left and right so it makes aiming a bit easier imo

[fathom wasp]

i learn quickly

[idle egret]

this game has a lot of counterintuitive stuff like that

think crossfires are good for this part? nope, stack up like a dugquatro

[mellow hedge]

I would recommend taking a bot heavily and giving it bio tracker and burst cannon

[fathom wasp]

Deam, nobody sees me

[thick temple]

you're better off looking in #lfg-beginners

wish you the best of luck

[fathom wasp]

thanks jarhead

:=

🙂

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[fathom wasp]

what is that?

[lost lynx]

R5E1 on beginners

Lol

[lost lynx]

Read what the bot said

[fathom wasp]

umm ok k

ok

[mystic tulip]

why bio?

[mellow hedge]

“Lf1 r8e2 duo no alarm skip”

[lost lynx]

Because they ping faster than players

[mellow hedge]

Because a bot with bio is better than you will ever be

[lost lynx]

Truly a beginners lobby

[wraith marsh]

lf pubdown

[idle egret]

I watched the spiff r8e2 video

Honestly looks pretty fun

[lost lynx]

It's a fun level

It has almost every single enemy too

[idle egret]

There's not even fog

[lost lynx]

Well

[idle egret]

I mean half the enemies are moms and tanks

[lost lynx]

There is also nightmares, Shadows, fliers

And the good old Kraken

[idle egret]

And a time limit

[lost lynx]

The time limit is whatever honestly

If you do everything at a decent speed (doesnt even have to be fast) you have more than enough time

[idle egret]

In terms of levels to end all levels it looks peak

[lost lynx]

It definitely is

You have a long way until then

But it's worth it

[mellow hedge]

Why did they just put the e2 nm6 in their first level

[wraith marsh]

you mean second?

CUCKERS?

[mellow hedge]

The pub level

[idle egret]

Yeah I can't believe the devs said they lost sales cuz the game was too hard

[mellow hedge]

Pubs

[wraith marsh]

pubs doesnt have it?

[mellow hedge]

Yeah

The zone before you deactivate error

[lost lynx]

Thats and no DLCs or microtranstractions

[mellow hedge]

During the bbc error

[wraith marsh]

m that mightve been broken when I played ig

[idle egret]

One of a kind shooter game and "It's too hard"

[mellow hedge]

It was the exact same scans and everything

[idle egret]

Also that

[mellow hedge]

Level was okay up until that

[wraith marsh]

they use it on the second level too so unsurprising

[mellow hedge]

Apart from forward spawns

[mellow hedge]

💀

[wraith marsh]

they use it in an AWFUL spot frosty you dont understand

you know the labs underpass tile

the curved one

[mellow hedge]

Give me a level

That it’s in

[wraith marsh]

idk when tf its even used in vanilla ngl

it might not be?

lemme just grab my vod actually

its just fucked that they dont indicate what scan it is

we were trioing and we pulled it with 4 ammos on everyone and STILL wiped from no ammo

[mellow hedge]

Average

[wraith marsh]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2429344358?t=03h19m56s

basically

they spawn in the underpass 2 rooms away

so you have a forced 3 split for the alarm

with an error going during it

its not even that horrible but its a very unfun experience

[mellow hedge]

I think you sent the wrong timestamp lol

[wraith marsh]

ok the alarm on pubs was definitely broken for us

[wraith marsh]

I sent the other usage im talking about

[mellow hedge]

Oh that tile?

The first tile in pubs?

[wraith marsh]

did the timestamp not work or something im confused

its in the link so it should be there?

[mellow hedge]

You sent a timestamp of the start of pubs

[wraith marsh]

the timestamp is 3:20:00

ish

they excessively like big S scans idk why

[mellow hedge]

okay for some fucking reason my phone would go to the twitch app THEN to a browser it and would just get fucked

yeah ik that tile

it has variations

but yeah literally just fucking mono nm6 from e2

[wraith marsh]

oof

[mellow hedge]

the rundown is a shitpost right?

[wraith marsh]

I dont think so

[mellow hedge]

unfortunate for them

[wraith marsh]

rn id describe it as soup

[mellow hedge]

the weapon balance makes it seem like it

scatter is actually wild

[wraith marsh]

ray said its arcadey

but like

actually arcadey

unlike fe2

[mellow hedge]

in a way

it more feels like glass cannon kinda

[wraith marsh]

dw frosty that first level had like 2 more sections to it

[wraith marsh]

they do feed you 600 meds at least

[mellow hedge]

the ammo in pubs feels like ass ngl

forces you into like double hel gun

[wraith marsh]

hel gun sucks in their guns funnily enough

HAR is 50% better

[mellow hedge]

damn

but yeah

[idle egret]

Do people not share

[wraith marsh]

I might replay the fixed version but

I watched some ppl earlier

[mellow hedge]

im talking aboout a level in a modded rundown

[wraith marsh]

and the level looks worse now that its fixed

[mellow hedge]

i cant get over scatter

[idle egret]

Ohhh

[mellow hedge]

fucking 15m starting falloff

like what

[wraith marsh]

190 damage or w/e

its crazy

you know whats funny

theres guns that compete with it quite well

[mellow hedge]

its like 160dmg, 4 mag, 15m fall off

with more ammo

[wraith marsh]

especially on bosses

theres a bunch of guns with equivelant precision damage per refill

[mellow hedge]

did they think lowering the precision multi would make it balanced lmao

like you can 1 mag a tank

[wraith marsh]

nah I think they just dont understand the gun

they never have

same for sawed off

[mellow hedge]

still stuck in og r4

[wraith marsh]

but like

choke mod?

[mellow hedge]

they literally add bc cancel as a dependency

[wraith marsh]

is basically as good

[idle egret]

Combat?

[mellow hedge]

choke mod looked good

[wraith marsh]

like I think the meta is unironically like

2 hars, a choke, and a scatter

and 4 sawed offs

[mellow hedge]

yeah prob

[wraith marsh]

but uhh yeah

[mellow hedge]

what does choke have over scatter

i havent played it

[wraith marsh]

their levels have a good amount of issues

from what ive seen so far

[mellow hedge]

they feel super bland

[wraith marsh]

(granted ive only seen 2 levels + 2 halves)

[mellow hedge]

not a lot of thought put into it

yeah i've only played one level lmao

gotta play more ig

[mystic tulip]

beat R1C1

yippee

[mellow hedge]

gj

[wraith marsh]

lemme pull up the stats again

you mainly want it over scatter for scout kill

[mellow hedge]

cause scatter has actual wave clear

[wraith marsh]

cuz of the way they use scouts

[mellow hedge]

yeah fair

[wraith marsh]

they use scouts in a way that you almost always are just

pulling random scouts

[mellow hedge]

i feel like scout triggers dont matter that much ngl

[wraith marsh]

and theres nothing you can do about it

so true

[mellow hedge]

like at a point i didnt care if a scout triggered i just would kill 4 giants before room woke up

and we could either mine or i just use 1 scatter shot to kill wave

[wraith marsh]

mines is very strong on pubs

less so on the next 3 levels

[mellow hedge]

like because the guns are so busted it doesnt feel punishing to wake socuts

[mellow hedge]

it felt okay

granted only got up to alarm to deactivate error

it didnt feel like a bad pick, but its not really punishing to take an extra sentry or smth

[mystic tulip]

hey frosty, without spoiling R1C2, whats a good secondary to bring

[wraith marsh]

ok choke mod has more precision dps including reload, instakills regular mom, almost kills tank (does stagger), but is worse for pmom cuz of no stagger
better for scouts, 2x the ammo but its hard to split damage with it unless youre host so wave clear is definitely just worse than scatter
range is good

im not sure if it has a reload cancel or not cuz id need to check datablocks for that

but like, its fairly competitive

[mystic tulip]

im giving bot Arbalest V

[wraith marsh]

for solo boss kill I think its still always scatter

[lost lynx]

Burst cannon is a good pick too

[wraith marsh]

but I dont think its ever 2 scatter if you want more than 1 boss kill

I think thats when you slot choke mod

BC has no place in boss kill funnily enough

especially in the content theyve put out

[mellow hedge]

hel rifle

[lost lynx]

bullpup

[mystic tulip]

how make bot use medkit

[worn otter]

bots will use medkits if there's an available target 80%HP or under.

[mystic tulip]

okay thank you, it was a bug where my two teammates saw the bot have a kit but i didnt

[idle egret]

Shouldn't really kit above 80 anyways

[mystic tulip]

what is an occiput?

nvm i figured it out

[lost temple]

Need help with R1D1 someone?

[gaunt nacelle]

What part specifically?

[lost temple]

Everything xD R1D1 is my next mission to do

[gaunt nacelle]

Lol

Icl I forgot the layout in that level

You playing with bots? Also what’s your loadout?

Ok did you get past the class IV alarm?

[silent shuttle]

@gaunt nacelle hey moth tell me why high caliber pistol sucks

[gaunt nacelle]

Its not super bad, its got high ammo count and you need to aim with it (sawed off and hel rifle user so can’t say much more than that)

[silent shuttle]

So why hell rifle sucks again

[gaunt nacelle]

One tappers are kinda a crutch when combining with new people

Hel rifle is like top 3 weapon in game

[silent shuttle]

How

Top 3 from bellow?

[gaunt nacelle]

pen high dmg decent fire rate

One taps sleepers

Four taps giants

Clears 6 sleepers+ like it’s a breeze

[silent shuttle]

I used that gun and killed my self

[gaunt nacelle]

Learn to funnel

And learn to spot ”natural” funnel points

Like R1C1 bridge, if you stand in the middle of it when a wave comes you can just shoot and maul down like 4+ sleepers a shot

[junior latch]

Wdym why would high cal or hel rifle suck o.O?

[junior latch]

They are what beginners should pick ngl

High cal specifically is a typical beginner recommendation

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea never claimed they shouldn’t, both those weapons are good

[junior latch]

Just say 4 tap to body btw
The 2 tap with full back dmg is generally not that relevant

[gaunt nacelle]

Fair enough ig

[junior latch]

especially hel rifle you usually play from in front

High cal and shotgun/choke are more mobile (sawed off aswell)

[gaunt nacelle]

I’ve had a decent amount of moments where two are spawned super close so can’t melee

And both had their backs to me

Maybe 5 in the past 6-7 runs I’ve attempted

[junior latch]

oh yea it definetly happens

Its just better imo to give the real breakpoint and then have people learn about back dmg multi

[gaunt nacelle]

Fair enough

I wanna see someone kite 2 giants and then someone else 2 taps those giants

Funni if it’s consistent

Also Eva R4B2 feels like hell

Is there sum I’m missing?

[fringe garden]

you can do it yourself

be close, bait attack, run around and boom

[gaunt nacelle]

Lol really?

[fringe garden]

3 tap is also consistent, stagger with first shot, run behind during animation, hit next 2 shots with back multi

[gaunt nacelle]

Ooooh yea

Wait sawed off from behind how many is it?

[fringe garden]

2 perfect shots

[gaunt nacelle]

So realistically 3

And from front?

[fringe garden]

it's a 30 dmg gun

[wraith marsh]

zed never tell anyone to bait melee on anything besides a hybrid please

thanks

[gaunt nacelle]

Cuh I’m no stat merchant

[fringe garden]

"bait attack"

you bait tongue

[gaunt nacelle]

That doesn’t sound very chill

[wraith marsh]

also keep in mind you need perfect back for 2 shot

[gaunt nacelle]

Yea realistically 3 shot

[fringe garden]

if you bait tongue you should probably go for ooci into back

to get the 2 shot consistently

[wraith marsh]

just take the 3 shot

no baiting shit

[fringe garden]

the ammo difff realistically doesn\t matter ig

[mellow hedge]

na its easy to 2 shot

[distant yoke]

isnt it two shot if to the head and then body? or perhaps I'm miss remembering

[mellow hedge]

(30 * 2) * 2 = 120

which is giant health

[distant yoke]

hrm okay

[mellow hedge]

idk how much headshot does but its more

[wraith marsh]

its almost nothing more

[fringe garden]

it\s like 33 or 34 i think

[gaunt nacelle]

So 4 shots to front if perfect?

[fringe garden]

#gtfo-media message

[fringe garden]

4 shots if you don\t suffer falloff

[gaunt nacelle]

Oh yea

[fringe garden]

just taking the headshot, even if it barely increases damage, basically guarantees the 4 shot

[wraith marsh]

im ngl

just fucking melee it f rom front at this point

[distant yoke]

oh I was talking about the hel rifle not the pistol

[wraith marsh]

you are not doing this in any actual encounter

[junior latch]

Theres only 2 guns that aim for the head of giant strikers for extra dmg

Sniper (1 shot) and precision rifle (mild dmg increase)

Everything else is doing nothing rly or legit worse

[gaunt nacelle]

I am?

[fringe garden]

fucking why did the first clip get cut at start

whatever it\s just me baiting tongue and running behind

[distant yoke]

well noted I dont need to be aimming for head on first hit then

[junior latch]

At all*

[fringe garden]

if you have hammer yeah, but if you have knife it\s better not to

[distant yoke]

well yea

[junior latch]

head is rly only for quick stagger on guns that dont limb break other bodyparts well

[distant yoke]

just I usually aim for head on first hit and then mag dump the body afterwards regardless of if I hit head

[junior latch]

Btw chill

You said you guys arent gonna run anymore yesterday?

[wraith marsh]

ye

we done

[junior latch]

Sadge

[wraith marsh]

idk what were even doing for r5e1 comp

[junior latch]

like everyone
or just as a team

[wraith marsh]

we were originally planning to do sub 16

but I dont think thats gonna happen anymore

[wraith marsh]

everyone

[gaunt nacelle]

Unfort

[wraith marsh]

tru's pretty much the only one actually invested in speeds

so im sure he'll still sub elsewhere or smth

[fringe garden]

ggs the E tier leaderboards will remember you

[junior latch]

Yea tru is in our current discord call group

shame

[wraith marsh]

nothings gonna match up to the quest for the 5 records again so idrc

that shit was peak

and we got a good enough foamless r4e1 to show its competitive

so all the runs are based now

[junior latch]

we actually did one of our r4e1 main runs with foam broken during surge immediatly

Was scuffed but we had found ammo before

[wraith marsh]

we love rng ladderfoam

r2e1 is in such a better place now ✊

[junior latch]

tbf it wasnt quite rng but us having the wave on us while I started foaming

awful spawn time and position from 2nd alarm

[wraith marsh]

were you guys foaming the small doors before the ladder

[junior latch]

slightly

didnt matter in that case

they were on the doors the sec cell was through

[wraith marsh]

im ngl playing for wave timing is irritating on that alarm

[junior latch]

Also we checked r8c2 yesterday

it might actually be good for a future comp

theres only 1 noticeabe variance in spawn rng for all cell spawns

[wraith marsh]

it looked pretty fun when we took a cursory look through

[junior latch]

every other cell spawns are close

[wraith marsh]

beginning kinda mid though

[gaunt nacelle]

Is this same for sawed off? (That’s what I was originally referring to)

[wraith marsh]

the shooter alarm is total ass

[junior latch]

Super mid

[junior latch]

Shooter?

[wraith marsh]

the class 7 or w/e

giants and shooters

[junior latch]

[fringe garden]

i mean pretty much yeah
need to center shots more, and the bait into 2 shot is much much less consistent since you don't really get to utilise the occi

[gaunt nacelle]

Fairs

[wraith marsh]

calling it a shooter alarm is misleading

ig

[junior latch]

ya

[wraith marsh]

mb

[junior latch]

the level becomes interesting once you get to cells ngl

[wraith marsh]

ye

[junior latch]

before that its just fast stealth and foaming the 2 alarms

We are likely running double foam

[wraith marsh]

did you find where the tank spawns in room yet

[junior latch]

hm?
wdym

[wraith marsh]

we doxxed his ass in cconsole

the MRI autowake tank

[junior latch]

Yea

it spawns in when the door opens

we were also looking for an oob yesterday. Cuz if you get past that checkpoint door without doing it you can start mri scan immediatly

sadly nothing can lead you up to the spots whete you can get out

also god I swear

That tank 2 c-scout zone

Is fucking mental

[wraith marsh]

the tank spawns in the same spot is what I mean

[junior latch]

Yea

[wraith marsh]

reminds me, hows the poll lookin hm

[mellow hedge]

looking amazing

[wraith marsh]

still good still good

theres a lot of votes, surely all these ppl will actually try the run

:clueless:

[fringe garden]

71 runners, that's 18 teams

[mellow hedge]

im guessing like fucking 5% will run lmao

[burnt flume]

democracy is a failure of a system

world is fuck

burn it all

[mellow hedge]

YEAH CAPITALISM

[wraith marsh]

I know at least 5 teams will be running iirc

[burnt flume]

ooooo name them maybe?

[mellow hedge]

after i run with my team im down to run with others

[wraith marsh]

I will probably be pubbing as well outside the tour guides and whatever my team does if anything

[burnt flume]

kinda same, depends how it goes

[wraith marsh]

since its been fun for the most part so far

[burnt flume]

growing pains hurt

no this isn't another out of pocket goat comment, it's with playing with a new team

[mellow hedge]

you have a team?

[wraith marsh]

r5e1 will train you up

trust

its how we skill progged

[mellow hedge]

we skill progged on r1a1 resets

trust

[burnt flume]

thanks for asking, i do not have a team

this is me being sincere.

idk what i'm doing anymore someone needs to rein me in

[wraith marsh]

sick burn btw

[mellow hedge]

i wonder if eva will actually wanna run e tiers

[wraith marsh]

🔥

[mellow hedge]

at some point

[wraith marsh]

hopefully r4e1 helped turn them around

seems like it didnt go too badly

[burnt flume]

yeah actually that's kinda toxic as fuck to my teammates

[mellow hedge]

maybe yeah

it wasnt 100% tho

maybe after r5e1

idk

[wraith marsh]

fuck I shouldve sent you guys my shadow zone practice map

too late now

[burnt flume]

the main thing was about vitriol wasn't it, and there's not much of that left to go around

[mellow hedge]

well now at least we probably wont get shit talked for running e tiers so maybe he will agree

[wraith marsh]

I hate to say it

[burnt flume]

that being said i did feel that the run could've gone faster, and i'm curious if foaming in 2 blobs is any better than 1

[wraith marsh]

since TC got removed

[burnt flume]

because it didn't seem it from my runs

[wraith marsh]

you guys were gonna get made fun of more for avoiding running them

[mellow hedge]

its pretty much only eva

and it makes sense for him

but i think now theres no reason not to

[junior latch]

Im honestly surprised that I appearantly still am staying there rent free

[wraith marsh]

idk, ill never understand and dont need to

wont pry

[mellow hedge]

Wild ahh image

[burnt flume]

i do feel that there's not much need to shy away anymore, TC kinda struck me as "flavour of the week" people and i doubt they give a damn about anything going on in vanilla anymore

[junior latch]

I mean I dont mind talking about it in private (no need to have this stuff on the disc)

[junior latch]

Youd be surpriesed (as was I)

but im down to run E tiers yes

[mellow hedge]

LESGOOOO

tell tgb

[junior latch]

they simply arent high prio rn

r4e1 was

and still is

I wanna get sub 20 if possible frosty

[wraith marsh]

TC not getting the only thing they ever had back, their times

[burnt flume]

i was trying some r4e1 main only, but it's rough without much prior experience on the team

[wraith marsh]

massive L

[mellow hedge]

we can yeah

[burnt flume]

sub 20 looks handy

[mellow hedge]

we struggled a bit at the start just getting used to it

[burnt flume]

how much ammo did you loot in the entire run can you remember?

[junior latch]

oof idk

[wraith marsh]

you guys have vastly different opinions on speedrunning than us so idk which of them you guys would find most fun

[mellow hedge]

but i think a team with prev 100%% exp would pick it up super easily

[junior latch]

I think from memory we loot gen zone and 2nd/3rd alarm zone

[mellow hedge]

I was kinda giving tips and saying what to do sometimes when we were running

and pathing stuff

[mellow hedge]

i think like uhhhhh

16 uses maybe

[pseudo sedge]

ngl i think our team will enjoy r4e1 100% and r5e1 most likely

[wraith marsh]

the main diff just seems to be no cfoam trip

stacked boss no trip is fucked

[mellow hedge]

i think we just dont mind resetting

[burnt flume]

r4e1 100% gets pretty boring once you're optimising to sub 30

[junior latch]

You can see it in the run yea

[wraith marsh]

ye

[mellow hedge]

we had that yeah lmao

[wraith marsh]

you guys enjoy full sending

[mellow hedge]

i go down even on 55%

although wave behind

[wraith marsh]

I think of all the levels only r7e1 would satisfy that

[mellow hedge]

yep

[pseudo sedge]

tbf the only fuckup we did in that fight was me penning frosty

[junior latch]

Of course

[mellow hedge]

oh yeah

[pseudo sedge]

yea that was just "hel gun tech"

[burnt flume]

ouch

[wraith marsh]

personally I dont find r7e1 fun

[junior latch]

The run had to have friendly fire

[mellow hedge]

i was on 22% and got shot lmao

[wraith marsh]

even if the run is cool af

[burnt flume]

aiming for bottom tumours?

[mellow hedge]

we could probably run r7e1

cause like rn it just has "a run"

[wraith marsh]

yeah I think our term sends were not sends

and you can skip side room res

so if you want an actual WR that one is on the table without rng

[mellow hedge]

yeah we skipped those in our run that we did

where they broke side door lmao

[pseudo sedge]

team i swear if the first brazil skip i do is a speedrun i am nuking france again

[burnt flume]

arrange a brazil skip that's not a speedrun

[wraith marsh]

the regular brazil skip is kinda mid so I wouldnt be mad about it

[burnt flume]

with skill prog and scatter there's little need to be as conservative as the regular run

[wraith marsh]

has the same problems of a regular run of the level and then it also has the problems of brazil skip

like code 4 being terrible

so its kinda just a worse version of the level

[mellow hedge]

i feel like code 4 is the cool part

[wraith marsh]

it is cool but idk if it can be consistent ever

so it kinda just ends up feeling like throwing yourself at the wall

like the trip in we figured out ways to force it

but going back for 4 is just guh

[fringe garden]

bait birth on all the moms so enemies get 0 frames and can't hit you?

[pseudo sedge]

imagine 20fps is the way to force code 4 clear

[mellow hedge]

you should have around 80 enemies that way at least

so should work

[wraith marsh]

I forget do tanks still function when enemies get laggy

like shooters still function

[mellow hedge]

yeah probably

[pseudo sedge]

tanks idk

[wraith marsh]

probably still has some execution issues then

[pseudo sedge]

shooters dont work either, their projectiles do

[mellow hedge]

its 100% accurate tounges so prob

[junior latch]

:)

[pseudo sedge]

oh no

[wraith marsh]

rn you kinda just hope that charger wave rng works out

[junior latch]

Dw tgb youd be dead in charger zone surely

[burnt flume]

sorry bud, you're opening the settings menu

[pseudo sedge]

i pray

[wraith marsh]

who gets to do my terrible role

eva?

return to the hold?

[mellow hedge]

i am NOT holding pablo and chargers

[pseudo sedge]

i am probably defending reactor

[wraith marsh]

you get peak gameplay

[burnt flume]

i wouldn't mind doing another brazil skip because fuck me the first one was awful

[mellow hedge]

im probably bio and code hunter

[pseudo sedge]

omg are we actually gonna have the 300ms-ers going in for reactor codes???

[junior latch]

we will see how it goes tbh

R7E1 isnt high prio rn and theres like 10 levels that we do before it

[wraith marsh]

your run consists of: run around -> cell walk -> permafoaming -> run around -> grab a 4 ammo -> sit in the same spot -> run around -> permafoam -> run around

[junior latch]

Nono
You downing there was PEAK CINEMA

goat just knows how to get the drama risin

[pseudo sedge]

the real question would be: are we all gonna have to record so eva can use the 4 way pov again in yt?

if yes i won't even have to open settings to have 20fps

which i dont know if i should be happy or sad

[gaunt nacelle]

only thing ive seen them do

[wraith marsh]

LOL

[burnt flume]

when i'm talking about brazil skip i'm being critical of myself because i still am not happy with how well i was playing that run (and skill progged a lot since then)

[mellow hedge]

AYO

[wraith marsh]

thats a crazy message

W

[burnt flume]

it's true

[junior latch]

Which ?

Oh goats?

[burnt flume]

i've started so much shit

[wraith marsh]

no moth's

[junior latch]

BRUH

Xd

[gaunt nacelle]

its fine i think most of its funni

[burnt flume]

you weren't here for the best one of all

[gaunt nacelle]

(am i wrong tho)

[wraith marsh]

byeah idk, the run probably has plenty of time save that idk about

cuz I had no agency in that run

[burnt flume]

much before your time i'm afraid

[wraith marsh]

all I know is we owned TC

[gaunt nacelle]

im youngling

[wraith marsh]

and that was the goal

[gaunt nacelle]

TC?

[mellow hedge]

Its a good day when TC get owned

[gaunt nacelle]

oh ten cents

wait what did i miss lol

[junior latch]

Oh btw chill, asking in general

Would you ever be down/interested to join hide and seek (im likely doing a team one every saturday evening (so like middle of the day for you)

or for events?

[mellow hedge]

LMAO

no

toxic clique

[gaunt nacelle]

oh

[mellow hedge]

basically people you dont ever want to interact with

[gaunt nacelle]

im down to for the funnies

[mellow hedge]

its not even that funny

its just embarrassing

[pseudo sedge]

chat do i add to the logger tool hide&seek feature with notepad list of all hiding spots ranked in each level surely and ruin all the fun

[wraith marsh]

Ill see if I can watch the next one to see if id want to play, but yeah it seems interesting

[burnt flume]

there's some amount of charm and rarely they can be pretty cool, but for the most part they're toxic dudebro gamers to the point its generic

[gaunt nacelle]

unfort

[gaunt nacelle]

bruh not even the funi toxic gene? L people frfr

[wraith marsh]

theyre what we call average

on the internet

[burnt flume]

expected outcome

[thick temple]

whats you guys opinion on the mystery time bit
tbh i find it really cringe but maybe i'm the cringe one

[mellow hedge]

actually like 2010's cod players

[wraith marsh]

and liked egoing ppl for whatever reason

[burnt flume]

when is expected outcome going to catch on

[wraith marsh]

(we beat all their times handily)

[burnt flume]

it's my favourite phrase

[mellow hedge]

wdym

you mean people hiding times?

[gaunt nacelle]

only fun to be had is ragebaiting them

[burnt flume]

instead of "that's so average man" ---> "expected outcome"

[wraith marsh]

everyone finds actually doing mystery times cringe

[thick temple]

yeah when tc had an r2e1 time and they hid it and just said "mystery time"

[pseudo sedge]

hiding run times is cringe

[mellow hedge]

its cringe

[junior latch]

Crrrrrriiiiinge

[mellow hedge]

also people only do it for toxic reasons

[burnt flume]

it was done exclusively to jab at eva iirc

[junior latch]

Bread aswell

[wraith marsh]

they never even posted the run is the funny thing

[burnt flume]

damn

[thick temple]

okay glad its not just me
wanted to check if i was just being lame since i often am

[mellow hedge]

ig they never got it

[wraith marsh]

we had to beat a time they didnt post

[gaunt nacelle]

bruh not even original or funi stuff

[pseudo sedge]

fucking hell me and frosty did not post an r6c1 duo time and after our old wr got beaten we just got a better run cause it felt toxic for me to post the better duo time that actually was wr

[burnt flume]

i guess that would've ruined the mystery

[junior latch]

Nah

Its a hated thing in speedrunning in general

[gaunt nacelle]

shush ur wrong on that last part ♥

[wraith marsh]

chances are if TC did it its probably lame

[mellow hedge]

^

[thick temple]

nah i don't publicly interact enough for you to see the truth in it

[mellow hedge]

i remember them like yapping about not saying "lets go" because its cringe or some shit

[thick temple]

i've "signed up" for next hide and seek and i fear i will ruin it because i am mega lame

also i'm bad

[wraith marsh]

if its any dig site tile im climbing to the top of it

[gaunt nacelle]

fuck u ur wrong u helped me with uplink so no longer lame

[wraith marsh]

im a god at climbing dig site tiles

[gaunt nacelle]

nuh uh

[burnt flume]

I mean there's still an r4e1 time with my old team that we never posted that was sub 36, but i don't think we care to post it at all, and I may've deleted the run, god knows if Beth still has those logs and footage either

[mellow hedge]

im fucking waiting for e2

[burnt flume]

where's rhe image of me hidden in r4e1

I've been meaning to find that again

[pseudo sedge]

i've found a crazy spot in r2b2

after r2b2 was fukin played

insane

[gaunt nacelle]

proceeds to share said hiding spot

[mellow hedge]

me when r8c2 shows up

[thick temple]

mega random now but now that i think about it
i think you're actually one of two people who talk regularly in this server who i've actually been in vc with

[gaunt nacelle]

uhhhhhh i just got attached to this server lol

[junior latch]

iirc we were in vc ages ago for a sec jarhead

[mellow hedge]

i dont think i've been in vc with jarhead

[pseudo sedge]

honestly... someone needs to do so much parkour to get those 2 that i would be surprised if ANYONE gets to either one without dieing

[thick temple]

maybe? if we were it was probably short enough that i genuinely don't remember it

[mellow hedge]

only thing was like dms to each other

[wraith marsh]

im the other one surely

[thick temple]

i mean i don't pub LITERALLY at all

yeah chill is

[wraith marsh]

LETS GO

[thick temple]

trackmania and arc complex gaming

[gaunt nacelle]

i thought you'd be one at Evas bday vid thingy (if that was what it actually was)

[thick temple]

bday vid thingy?

[junior latch]

Actually genuine question

Were you there for the live „ENDGAME“ watching?

[thick temple]

i was not lol

[gaunt nacelle]

yea the endgame watching

[wraith marsh]

jars a static gamer smh

staying faithful

[thick temple]

i tried pubbing a couple times and got traumatized man

[gaunt nacelle]

demi, malefic and gabriel goated at pubbing cant lie

love those guys

[wraith marsh]

surely during comp I can just open an r5e1 speedrun pub

and ppl will join

[gaunt nacelle]

yes trust

i will

[thick temple]

is that not what beth did for r3d1

[junior latch]

kinda

In a way its better to have people bulld their own teams

[wraith marsh]

they didnt actually lfg I think

ppl came to them

afaik

[junior latch]

But if you have people who simply dont get 4 together, taking them up for a ride is good

[junior latch]

They asked and people asked ye

[fringe garden]

ye there was a tour guide queue

[wraith marsh]

yeah I can definitely feel that I was taking away from the experience a bit by doing the pushing on r5e1

but ppl still seemed to be enjoying it

kinda hard for ppl to pick up the pushing anyways

[unreal crystal]

my DMs were crazy

[burnt flume]

🕯️ a candle for the russians who never made it out of bianhua

[unreal crystal]

2 of them did

[thick temple]

🕯️

[wraith marsh]

all they got out of it was a loss of respect

huge

[fringe garden]

spent a week rolling for key 15, and never got it rip

[wraith marsh]

well some of them did at least

[unreal crystal]

these guys are made for r1a1

[junior latch]

Huh what

Context

[unreal crystal]

do we know when the E tier thingy is happening

[wraith marsh]

some of them were uhh

not so nice to run with apparently

[junior latch]

Like 26th?

[unreal crystal]

Aight

[junior latch]

[wraith marsh]

yeahhh

[burnt flume]

mhm that's around my final exam

[mellow hedge]

Bro

[junior latch]

Gal

[mellow hedge]

we had more context than anyone

[unreal crystal]

this is my real and true retirement arc

[junior latch]

well that was

[burnt flume]

should be fine, just take the monday and tuesday off

[junior latch]

another group

I thought it was from beth pov

[burnt flume]

wait fuck we'll never see the sub 30 r4e1

[unreal crystal]

no probably not

[mellow hedge]

oh

[wraith marsh]

nah were referring to this

or at least I was

[junior latch]

Noooo
What about your reaction to frosty reacting to you reacting to the pre alpha footage

[unreal crystal]

that’s den of wolves

That’s still on the table

[mellow hedge]

its coming dw

[burnt flume]

ah well, if you're ever back to run then let me know and i'll crawl out of whatever hole i'm in to come join

[unreal crystal]

sub 30 r4e1 is hard to say really

I don’t know if I care enough to speedrun anymore

[junior latch]

dow*

[burnt flume]

i'm terminal bombing next run

[wraith marsh]

we need a mod that plays a dow trailer in the corner of every terminal screen

[burnt flume]

with directional audio

[unreal crystal]

During the reactor sequences it should just play the dow trailer

Over and over

[mellow hedge]

na like theres a startup sequence and its just DoW intro with the inject song

[unreal crystal]

Make me feel like I’m watching the streamathon again

[wraith marsh]

the inject drop hits and the lights turn into the r8 lighting bug

[mellow hedge]

fucking sitting in that one room with inject playing every 10 minutes

bro i still dont know how we didnt finish it

[junior latch]

Its the DEN
OF
WOLVES

[mellow hedge]

i even stayed up ALL NIGHT on the last day to help

[unreal crystal]

maybe I should be grateful for the trailer spam

It’s in my blood now

[junior latch]

ngl the music is good imo

but that
DEN
OF
WOLVES

[mellow hedge]

i watched like the breakdown stuff for that song

some sick ass shit simon did for it

[wraith marsh]

im not a big fan tbh

[mellow hedge]

fair

[junior latch]

its always subjective in the end

Some parts actually get me hyped
Others im kinda indifferent

[wraith marsh]

I normally like songs like it so I was kinda surprised I didnt care for it

[mellow hedge]

its not WHAT, its WHO

BRRM BRRM DING DING DINGAJHWEIGHAWIOG

[wraith marsh]

DOW memes do go hard