#gtfo-chat
lost lynx
thorn monolith
Exactly, let's say you and Jimmy played with me and both really didn't like me and talk about ne in dms. That's what I meant.
mellow hedge
Except itโs not DMs but about 50 people talking through each other
Actually probably more
plush gate
๐
thorn monolith
Except itโs not DMs but about 50 people talking through each other
Yeah, I said dms as an example.
lost lynx
Damnnnn, where did you get a pic of me?
analog flicker
thorn monolith
Except itโs not DMs but about 50 people talking through each other
When I said I don't have bad rep. I meant in the server.
analog flicker
When I said I don't have bad rep. I meant in the server.
[x] doubt
mellow hedge
Again, not every pub knows of you
analog flicker
another pub
thorn monolith
I remember playing with you Frosty R6D3 my first ever PE
analog flicker
nothing more. nothing less
plush gate
prisoner
thorn monolith
When I was a noob.
lost lynx
Why do i feel like i'm missing some lore
analog flicker
Where's this Teamkiller @blissful dome lurkin
plush gate
fax
analog flicker
wraith marsh
Why do i feel like i'm missing some lore
thats what im sayin
thorn monolith
nothing more. nothing less
Don't remember asking you nor playing with you.
plush gate
Don't remember asking you nor playing with you.
wasnt talking to u buddy
blissful dome
LMAO
thorn monolith
wasnt talking to u buddy
To me it seemed like it.
plush gate
blissful dome
Where's this Teamkiller <@359461309881778199> lurkin
fleatus is the one who sent the ss
pulease
plush gate
mellow hedge
I rank pubs based on how well they use scattergun
lost lynx
Thank god i never have played with you then
I miss 2 scatter shots on a single shooter
thorn monolith
I rank pubs based on how well they use scattergun
Is that all you rank them by? XD
mellow hedge
Yep
thorn monolith
You would love me then.
lost lynx
Ayo?
blissful dome
erm huh
analog flicker
just remember ifo when Hange was asking "Where was Scatter???"
lost lynx
Is that a burst sentry? Or are you just happy to see him?
analog flicker
plush gate
Is that a burst sentry? Or are you just happy to see him?
shotgun sentry deciding what to shoot
thorn monolith
Yep
My scatter usage is on door chokes for smalls, as well as for bigs, mothers and tanks.
analog flicker
shotgun sentry deciding what to shoot
you forgor you took a shit ton of sentry cpu speed with shotgun sentry
lost lynx
shotgun sentry deciding what to shoot
Truly the meta of GTFO
analog flicker
it just shot 7x for that one baby striker
mellow hedge
My scatter usage is on door chokes for smalls, as well as for bigs, mothers and ...
No shooter -> pub
blissful dome
it just shot 7x for that one baby striker
๐
lost lynx
My scatter usage is on door chokes for smalls, as well as for bigs, mothers and ...
I use scatter on teammates only
analog flicker
I use scatter on teammates only
we give bots scatter fr fr
thorn monolith
No shooter -> pub
What? XD
mellow hedge
Scattergun is for shooters and teammates only
thorn monolith
I use scatter on teammates only
๐
thorn monolith
Scattergun is for shooters and teammates only
๐ ๐
lost lynx
๐ ๐ ๐
thorn monolith
Going by that logic sniper's my favorite weapon for surge alarms.
lost lynx
Sniper is made for babies
thorn monolith
Sniper is made for babies
Not on surge alarms. If you bring it to surge missions, your a pro.
tired flame
Hey I'm completely new to the game. All I've done is get most of the way through the first level solo
thorn monolith
Hey I'm completely new to the game. All I've done is get most of the way through...
Don't listen to us. We are being sarcastic.
lost lynx
Hey I'm completely new to the game. All I've done is get most of the way through...
Solo? Don't do solo
Play with bots
Solo needs a decent amount of experience
tired flame
but its scary to go solo which is fun
lost lynx
You wont get far
chilly berry
but its scary to go solo which is fun
wont be fun for long
lost lynx
That too
tired flame
I actually died at extraction. But yeah I imagine on harder levels it would suck
lost lynx
IFO typing
chilly berry
I actually died at extraction. But yeah I imagine on harder levels it would suck
even on easier levels the solo is tough
lost lynx
chilly berry
you need to learn the mechanics
plush gate
IFO typing
blissful dome
IFO typing
Misinput I swear
lost lynx
IFO typing
lost lynx
I actually died at extraction. But yeah I imagine on harder levels it would suck
Not even in the hard levels
Youll get stuck most likely in R1C1
thorn monolith
You need game knowledge and tools for easy missions to be a breeze.
pastel dagger
That feeling when u die at extraction. In r2d2 ๐
mellow hedge
I actually died at extraction. But yeah I imagine on harder levels it would suck
Thatโs pretty good. How many hours do you have and are you playing with bots or true solo?
thorn monolith
That feeling when u die at extraction. In r2d2 ๐
It's always the worst feelings when you die on the extraction, no matter the mission.
thorn monolith
just restart and do it again
Yeah, that's why. Unless it's R7D2.
It has a checkpoint at the literal end.
zealous hinge
@median snow pls buff weapons in chaddown ;-;
mellow hedge
Let me introduce you to: the short rifle
zealous hinge
sam revert hel rifle nerf so maybe revert in chaddown pls uwu
fringe garden
you can't make it up i think i got 7 or 8 hybrids this time
oh well i survived this time at least
actually going to clip that
junior latch
you can't make it up i think i got 7 or 8 hybrids this time
First wave or in total?
fringe garden
funniest part is that my attempts die during ladderfoamed alarms because i keep not foaming enough/foaming just too little to not have time to uncap fps and have a playable game
junior latch
Just saying
Capping fps doesnt rly do much for 2nd or 3rd surge
it has some ok impact on the normal alarm and 1st error surge
fringe garden
why doesn't it help for 3rd surge
junior latch
why doesn't it help for 3rd surge
They are 1 room away
fringe garden
they spawn 1 room away?
junior latch
how you ladderfoam would matter way more than capping there
fringe garden
oh yeah they are close
fringe garden
how you ladderfoam would matter way more than capping there
ggs need ladderfoam guide
junior latch
ladderfoam becomes rly strong 2+ away
fps capping starts being a thing 2+ rooms away and becomes insane when like 5 rooms out
junior latch
ggs need ladderfoam guide
how much foam you using for the ladder
junior latch
How the fuck are you foaming for that not to last the full surge
fringe garden
it lasts the full surge
junior latch
okโฆ
fringe garden
it just barely didn't last the class 4 after
junior latch
it just barely didn't last the class 4 after
Just refoam?
like, you arent under time pressure there
fringe garden
... there is like 40% foam remaining on map that i have access to there
fringe garden
i could probably get away with like 80% for just the surge yeah
refoaming for class 4 kinda sucks though because you can get fucked by hybrids jumping onto ladder
lucid frigate
i absolutely love the fact that ive beat rundown 1 and the only other mission being r8e1
gaunt nacelle
i absolutely love the fact that ive beat rundown 1 and the only other mission be...
With a squad Iโm assuming?
lucid frigate
yea with a matchmade random squad (starting out)
ended up posting lfg here
got a friend from it 
fringe garden
when did i give you tips and on what
thorn monolith
R2E1 and just now.
crude bay
๐
terse knot
Wait what does fps capping do to waves
near stag
Wait what does fps capping do to waves
Slows them down
terse knot
Huh
final coyote
LF2 R2D1 - 109775241719919309
gaunt nacelle
LF2 R2D1 - 109775241719919309
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
LF2 R2D1 - 109775241719919309
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hasty bobcat
so quiet today
brittle schooner
smthin like that
analog flicker
so quiet today
[x] doubt
gaunt nacelle
lf1 r4e1 duo !
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
lf1 r4e1 duo !
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gaunt nacelle
Chats dead server dead GTFO dead 
magic escarp
dead game
fringe garden
r5e1 prisoner
cs duo is fucking hard
gaunt nacelle
Gtfo is bad
gaunt nacelle
Ok
hasty bobcat
cs duo is fucking hard
no wonder
fringe garden
i'd never play that
#gtfo-related-questions message let me remind you
gaunt nacelle
mostly cuz i don't get more than 30 frames on r5e1
Does specs help it?
hasty bobcat
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/523134183237746706/1342495187745...
yeah but that won't happen
hasty bobcat
i have average setup
fringe garden
yeah but that won't happen
doubting my financial irresponsibility ๐
gaunt nacelle
Or if itโs just shit in gen
hasty bobcat
but if u play r5e1 or r8e2 u just don't get frames
and e2 is partially fine
5e1 is just
i'm not playing that
fringe garden
idk i run r5e1 on 3060 mobile while recording at above 60 fps
fringe garden
i don't think 580 is average team
gaunt nacelle
I donโt think 580 runs anymore
gaunt nacelle
Wasnโt it the 1070 ti or 1080 ti that was like the god tier gpu for price?
hasty bobcat
580 as in RX 580
ye
graceful geode
Which, by then, yeah, but I doubt that can even run it
fringe garden
sky i don't think 8 year old gpu is average
gaunt nacelle
Sky i think zed is trying to gaslight you
graceful geode
sky i don't think 8 year old gpu is average
Well, not anymore BUT
On Steam survey
1060 was the MOST popular card some years ago
and a 580 is around that
gaunt nacelle
I approve for not bending to Jensen the magic black leather jacket man
Id take 7900 xtx over 5090 tbh (and 4090)
(Yes im delulu)
fringe garden
idk i'd want a 4090 ti considering they don't exist
graceful geode
It's certanly NOT average anymore but I'd struggle to say it's bad. I played GTFO R7 release with a 1060 and it was fine at 1080p all low
gaunt nacelle
idk i'd want a 4090 ti considering they don't exist
Whopsie
fringe garden
we can aim for sub hour idrc im just bored
hasty bobcat
i would but im tired
fringe garden
ggs
hasty bobcat
my b
gaunt nacelle
I think I spent 2.3 hours on r6b2 on my first clear ๐
shut vapor
Balls
hasty bobcat
toast is cooking my sleep schedule
fringe garden
average
fringe garden
if you feel like it is 5 am it is trust
gaunt nacelle
theres some place in the world where its 5:37
shut vapor
theres some place in the world where its 5:37
balls
blissful dome
hmmm
hasty bobcat
hmmm
blissful dome
sky arent you supposed to be asleep
hasty bobcat
i should
shut vapor
repossess me
hasty bobcat
and then went back on at like 11
shut vapor
hasty bobcat
gonna go munch on smth and sleep prob
blissful dome
mk
blissful dome
blissful dome
unless e2 pub
3 times in a row again?
vast zinc
LFG R8E2 need carry cause i suck
hasty bobcat
u can host ill go get food
blissful dome
why are we doing this
hasty bobcat
boredom
blissful dome
๐
native dew
how viable is the game solo? i wanna play it from start to finish but im scared of certain levels without a team lol
honest parrot
how viable is the game solo? i wanna play it from start to finish but im scared ...
Define viable
native dew
like as a somewhat new player could i play from rundown 1 to 8 and like
honest parrot
No
honest parrot
if you can solo R1 tho you might just be able to solo everything else
You can also lfg
If you want
lost lynx
how viable is the game solo? i wanna play it from start to finish but im scared ...
you cant play a coop game and expect to not play coop
native dew
your not getting it lol
native dew
if you can solo R1 tho you might just be able to solo everything else
fair enough
yeah i dunno, just cant imagine ill be able to find people to play through it all with
oh well, nbd
lost lynx
yeah i dunno, just cant imagine ill be able to find people to play through it al...
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honest parrot
You can find randos to do harder missions you can't solo
And solo the ones you think you can solo
native dew
true
honest parrot
There's been people like that in the past
And they seem to have found success with it
spark drum
I didnโt read the rules
honest parrot
I didnโt read the rules
Yes?
native dew
And they seem to have found success with it
makes sense
honest parrot
Something the matter?
native dew
thank you
lost lynx
just stop yo.
why you got angry
native dew
cause i know the channels, its not what im asking and you know that lol
spark drum
Lmao
lost lynx
I believe we have a role for that
nope
spark drum
Bet
lost lynx
i dont think we do
honest parrot
Ah no it's just for hammers and spears
native dew
Some people just don't like playing coop
i would, just dont expect people to play through r1 to r8 with me
spearsโค๏ธ
lost lynx
Ah no it's just for hammers and spears
you frogot knifes and bats
honest parrot
Nah most of us use hammer cause it's the good all-around option
honest parrot
Bat's good for stagger
honest parrot
Spear has some issues with loud clearing
native dew
only going spear if i have a duo tbf
lost lynx
Spear has some issues with loud clearing
im pretty sure it has more issues than that
honest parrot
But is really useful in giant stealth and scout stabs
lost lynx
you can easily do it with hammer
mellow hedge
bat is good in the tutorial :D
honest parrot
im pretty sure it has more issues than that
I mean it mostly boils down to that by the end
You can sort of play around it's other... quirks
honest parrot
Oh actually is there a solo guide somewhere
native dew
yeah idk i just like that range, bat is more fun tho
honest parrot
let me check
burnt flume
how viable is the game solo? i wanna play it from start to finish but im scared ...
if you skill prog and play with bots you could do a great deal of the levels, but some would evade you still
mellow hedge
Oh actually is there a solo guide somewhere
hinoki did one a couple years ago
native dew
if you skill prog and play with bots you could do a great deal of the levels, bu...
skill prog? can you clarify sorry
honest parrot
If you have more questions in regards to soloing with bots you can always ask here
honest parrot
Darksaid and some of the other vets can recommend better strats if you need it
native dew
hold up
native dew
its one of the optionals that is kicking my ass but still
honest parrot
which level
honest parrot
r1?
lost lynx
which b2
native dew
r1b2 was annoying because i couldnt figure out how to deal with the like missle giants
got a plan for them now tho
so
just gotta try again
honest parrot
Bring something like BC for the bots and they should take care of them?
native dew
oh true
honest parrot
If it's a chicken (Big Shooters) just melee and bully them
native dew
wait im lost maybe its not b2?
man
idk been too long since i tried
imma just lock in and game
then come back if i got issues lol
thanks for the help
i think its c1 with the rocket guys
honest parrot
The reactor?
native dew
prob
honest parrot
Eh @lost lynx does the pasta work for solo?
lost lynx
no
lost lynx
c1 is reactor
lost lynx
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
native dew
i can get through lots of it, just that last wave with the big guys
well
few waves
and yeah
honest parrot
Your runbacks for ammo are going to be more painful than the defences themselves tbh
lost lynx
like hel weapons and normal ones
hel weapons have pen
they hit multiple enemies with one bullet
native dew
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a rea...
"if you have three bots god go with you" ๐
native dew
hel weapons have pen
i see
okay
so ignore normal sent and shotgun one?
only burst and sniper?
guessing best setup for me is just gonna be 3 sentry and a bot with bio, but save one of the turrets for the last waves
hadnt really thought about moving up for my defence but honestly dont know why i havent, guess im scared of having to run too far to punch in the codes
mellow hedge
guessing best setup for me is just gonna be 3 sentry and a bot with bio, but sav...
take a sniper sentry and only use it on the waves with giants
native dew
not a bad idea
mellow hedge
but yeah never take shotgun sentry
native dew
burst cannon burst rifle
for this is that just a general kit? or for this mission? i figure the burst guns are just good for bots tho
mellow hedge
and theres not a lot of situations in general play where auto sentry is worth to take
mellow hedge
mainly because lack on knowledge
native dew
idk what is good
mellow hedge
the bots for guns
give them burst cannon and hel revolver
native dew
and theres not a lot of situations in general play where auto sentry is worth to...
oh what do they just dome with the rev
myb
wrong reply
but okay
with the sentry thing is it just because the bio track ones are better? or what?
the burst seems to miss alot
mellow hedge
the burst sentry does not miss
it has like actual aimbot
and can switch between enemy in the burst
native dew
hm
mellow hedge
its very good
native dew
weird
okay then run burst, i just thought the other ones would be decent with the bio track buff but rip
๐ญ
sniper for giants
never shotgun
and yeah
alr
makes sense
and with the melee the hammer is the best all round? i really liked the bat because if i messed up i could melee like 2-3 guys or something
but i guess its just a bit more charge for more range and dmg
rip my bat๐
mellow hedge
and with the melee the hammer is the best all round? i really liked the bat beca...
if you are gonna take bat just take knife
knife is for a bunch of smalls
hammer is just an all rounder
and very good
native dew
oh fair
compact folio
if you are gonna take bat just take knife
I swapped from knife to bat and sometimes I feel bad about it and other times I feel fine about it
mellow hedge
bat kinda just niche
its shines in speedruns
thats kinda it
its alright for general gameplay
compact folio
its just fun
Agreed
After I got better at the game and started to try things I actually started to like and enjoy bat
native dew
yeah i mean im having fun solo but lotta my friends dont like this kinda game so i just gotta slog thru it until im better at the game
the kits are fun but idk
compact folio
Rip
native dew
yeah i had like 2 others but they just dont like it
sucks cause i bought one of them the game but it happens
cant really be upset cause i took that chance when i bought it
compact folio
Bad friends to not like GTFO
native dew
oh i mean its all good im not tryna throw a pitty party lol its just a bummer
native dew
Ill play with you buddy
if your on and need another im down, but please dont get on the game for me specifically๐ญ
real monolith
if your on and need another im down, but please dont get on the game for me spec...
Nah I need to play more gtfo since I 100% ac6 and hd2. Hmu if you ever want to play
compact folio
How far did your friends get before they said no?
compact folio
native dew
Nah I need to play more gtfo since I 100% ac6 and hd2. Hmu if you ever want to p...
sure then yeah, sounds fun
compact folio
I feel like people don't soft quit and try other missions to re moralize themselves enough when they are stuck
real monolith
Yep
native dew
I feel like people don't soft quit and try other missions to re moralize themsel...
thats how i am, im doing b2 to get a bit less rusty then ill try c1 again
its just trial and error for me
if it doesnt work try a different solution
i get why its not fun for them though
compact folio
It's just rough that they quit so early 
native dew
yeahh lol, i wish it was fun for them
compact folio
It's a game where the more skilled you are the more enjoyment you get out of playing it
native dew
i was tryna get them back on and prolly could if it was a full group, but they would probably drop it as soon as it got boring
native dew
It's a game where the more skilled you are the more enjoyment you get out of pla...
that or just like
improving
compact folio
When does it get boring 
native dew
thats 90% of the fun for this kinda game
native dew
When does it get boring <:SCamiajoke:632893809965006868>
like they loose a 40 minute long mission and cant come back from that
i get its a bummer but like
man
๐ญ
native dew
its alr i just dont think the game is for them lol
compact folio
We are doing hour and a half missions unless we intentionally pick up the pace
native dew
wish i knew before i spent the money, but i also did take that risk lol
compact folio
its alr i just dont think the game is for them lol
unfortunate
native dew
We are doing hour and a half missions unless we intentionally pick up the pace
yeah makes sense, the missions are long
easier if your slower tbh
fast is hard
compact folio
One of my friends probably doesn't love the game as much as the rest of us, but play it anyway because its the group game and he does it to be with the group
native dew
yeah that is fair, gotta get me a group for this game like that lmao
duo is fun but with 4 its just
different
a whole different game
compact folio
Everyone knows their roles, there doesn't have to be too many commands given, its nice
native dew
sounds really fun lol, i love the terminal but my friend would always see it first and types at like 10 wpm๐ญ
c foam is really good seeming too
but i cant find a good usecase with bots
compact folio
Bots do not great with foam
native dew
๐
yeah
i usually foam doors when i use it but like
that just delays it
so i dont see a huge point
compact folio
You need a mine with it
vast zinc
I have officially beat R2E1
time for hidden stage, r2e2
rare wren
time for hidden stage, r2e2
If I beat R2 just to see that Iโd throw my monitor at a wall
plush gate
r8 be like
proper totem
if im using the sniper for killing giants and hybrids in R2 D2 what should my primary be
lost lynx
if im using the sniper for killing giants and hybrids in R2 D2 what should my pr...
Carbine
Hel revo
proper totem
ok
steep flax
This game can beat as trio ? one of my friend gave up this game ๐ฆ
honest parrot
This game can beat as trio ? one of my friend gave up this game ๐ฆ
Yeah
Duo is also possible
Solo is only theoretically possible
(i.e. god gamer level)
proper totem
it is possible to beat the game with 2 irl and 2 bots lol (god gaming level)
honest parrot
it is possible to beat the game with 2 irl and 2 bots lol (god gaming level)
Yes
It's been done before
lost lynx
it is possible to beat the game with 2 irl and 2 bots lol (god gaming level)
It's not as bad as you probably think it is
lost lynx
Yep
lost lynx
Me when I doorbug a mother in R4E1 for the 29839283928282nd time today
You did what?
Time to send you to the shadow realm
Door bugger
stark idol
You tell me how Iโm supposed to solo wave clear and code hunt?
What am I supposed to do? Get good?
Nah bro, Iโm too skill issued to do that
rose nova
What am I supposed to do? Get good?
scattergun idk
doesn't that just make u win automatically
lost lynx
You tell me how Iโm supposed to solo wave clear and code hunt?
Full auto 30 mag sniper
rose nova
ermm modded precision rifle
stark idol
Full auto 30 mag sniper
Full auto infinite ammo sniper that one-shots P-moms
And Mega-moms
lucid frigate
pistol that shoots mines
kindred shell
question for like anyone that knows behind the scenes or dev choices
why would glowsticks not reveal the shadow mobs in some way?
it seems like an obvious choice to me that that is what the utility of that item would be best suited for
if something like long flashlight works best for spitters, and lock melter in packed rooms, fog repellers (obv.), etc.
lost lynx
why would glowsticks not reveal the shadow mobs in some way?
Because it's not a powerful light source?
kindred shell
seems like glowsticks would have a very key niche in shadow reveals
idk it seems to me that if utility items should have some sort of niche that "it allows a stationary flashlight to be placed for the darkness" feels like something missed
lost lynx
The point of glowsticks is to iluminate an area without waking up enemies (this is kinda like a stationary flahslight?)
lost lynx
you actually go otu of your way to update that shit weekly?
There is a website you know
lost lynx
That shows all future passwords
lost lynx
kindred shell
ty
covert solstice
@foggy plank sorry but someone joined my call drunk and is talking polical does anyone know what I should do?
covert solstice
oof sorry I got no clue what to do
covert solstice
I dont know how Im new
lost lynx
covert solstice
https://discord.gg/sM4hjSkH this is my call if someone can step in sorry
lost lynx
<@&408548765599793173>
vestal kernel
Just send a dm to @foggy plank next time
lost lynx
Yoooo Sam
rare wren
Is ALT R2E1 easier than the original?
modern coral
Is ALT R2E1 easier than the original?
50/50, probably net easier
rare wren
Okay so it's not a skill issue on my end 
modern coral
It's like two levels
rare wren
I'm fine to queue into every other level TBH but something in me just doesn't wanna touch it again for a while
But fuuuuuuck that big circle room is hot
modern coral
You have "harder than R2 D-tier, aesthetically trying to seem like a harder level" part of the level.
And then you have "real E-tier"
And the real E-tier is the only interesting part of the level
*and first surge
First surge slaps
rare wren
And then you have "real E-tier"
Second half?
proper iron
our gun is stronger have more ammo and less sleeper what make alt still on par with OG?
modern coral
3rd and 4th alarms are ladder gaming
modern coral
Second half?
Error section.
modern coral
our gun is stronger have more ammo and less sleeper what make alt still on par w...
I mean the level design
rare wren
Error section.
That in all honesty felt easier than the first half
proper iron
oh i get it
modern coral
I don't think player power level really matters for individual level design, ngl
modern coral
That in all honesty felt easier than the first half
You are probably doing something wrong.
First two surges are reasonably hard
Everything else before error is ZZZzzzz
rare wren
You are probably doing something wrong.
I'm bad at the game is my problem
rare wren
We were trying to be a bit more conservative I think is the problem
modern coral
There's a bit too much ammo on the level
You might not feel that way if your weapons are meh, and the players aren't very cracked
But experienced players are just killing everything to skip the stealth
rare wren
You might not feel that way if your weapons are meh, and the players aren't very...
I did kinda get that vibe
I was doing Hel Revo and Hel Rifle and wasn't really low on ammo
modern coral
Strong loadout
rare wren
I'm bad enough to balance it don't worry
modern coral
Scatter swings shadow giants the most, you have to play a bit more carefully w/ other guns to maximize back damage and all.
rare wren
Scatter swings shadow giants the most, you have to play a bit more carefully w/ ...
How's Burst Cannon?
modern coral
Stronger than most guns, but kinda low ammo, so you have to play carefully w/ it anyway.
modern coral
By carefully I just mean, you want to open on a shadow giant from behind, and melee small shadows.
It has low ammo compared to Scatter, which is very overpowered, and HEL Rifle can outvalue it if you're taking it in situations where you know you will get long giant lines.
(which is not R2E1 for HEL Rifle, but)
rare wren
High level Burst Cannon play is killing like three shitters in a burst, right?
modern coral
Yes, it gives you a wave clear option
rare wren
It has low ammo compared to Scatter, which is very overpowered, and HEL Rifle ca...
Yeah Hel Rifle doesn't seem great in R2E1
modern coral
But for wave clear, HEL Gun and HEL Rifle are hyper-eco
and BC is not hyper-eco, it's just solid.
rare wren
Hel Gun is typically much harder to use but better if you can, right?
modern coral
50/50
HEL Gun is harder to use at a minimal level
But they both have unique skill expression when you're fully utilizing them
You can definitely be "lazy" on both and not be hitting crazy lines while getting good enough value.
Also just good at different things
HEL Gun is a bit more well-rounded, HEL Rifle excels at special targets and is finnicky for normals
rare wren
HEL Gun is a bit more well-rounded, HEL Rifle excels at special targets and is f...
Why so?
Also I feel like I'm lining up 2 or 3 shitters with it but only killing one
Is this a skill issue
modern coral
Which one?
rare wren
Hel Rifle
modern coral
You're probably missing w/out realizing it since you can't directly see the exact stance of the enemies behind
The 1.2s charge-up can also throw where you expect the shot to land a little
rare wren
I'm going for body shots usually
rare wren
You're probably missing w/out realizing it since you can't directly see the exac...
It feels like I am
Practice more?
modern coral
It is just practice
Learning when a line-up is about to appear, learning to wiggle to get better shots, etc.
HEL Rifle is genuinely very difficult to use for strikers
rare wren
Isn't wiggling typically negative?
My group's been saying not to cause we end up shooting each other
modern coral
w/ HEL Gun you just shoot individual enemies and get accidental lines sometimes, and if you're really good you pick the head to aim at depending on which shot gives you a better line.
modern coral
Isn't wiggling typically negative?
It is situation and positioning dependent.
rare wren
HEL Rifle is genuinely very difficult to use for strikers
Is the move to shoot Giant/Hybrid legs into smalls?
rare wren
w/ HEL Gun you just shoot individual enemies and get accidental lines sometimes,...
So take it, aim at single heads
modern coral
If you see the shot, yes, lines are all about getting high value per shot.
modern coral
So take it, aim at single heads
Yeah, that's the lazy way to use it
and the lazy way to use it is very good
rare wren
and the lazy way to use it is very good
So lines make the weapon busted
modern coral
Scatter and BC are the only non-pen specials that hold a candle to the pen specials.
and they both do so because they are incredibly busted in their own rights.
Pen is just an incredibly powerful mechanic all-around
rare wren
Does ease of use factor into a weapon's general quality?
I feel like I always see high level play with the Carbine and CS
modern coral
I wouldn't say so. It can have some bearing on personal choice, but even there I think it's taken too seriously and can be a major pitfall.
If you learn how to use the strongest guns, that's an incredible advantage that you can't really get access to any other way.
rare wren
Yeah cause I like the Carbine but I feel like it pisses through ammo
modern coral
Carbine is actually a comfort weapon
rare wren
If you learn how to use the strongest guns, that's an incredible advantage that ...
Is the lazy way to use the Hel Revo decent?
modern coral
funnily enough
rare wren
Just click on a head then a body
modern coral
Is the lazy way to use the Hel Revo decent?
Yes, it's just better DMR, and DMR is kind of good.
modern coral
Carbine is actually a comfort weapon
If you're sweating, you take Sawed-off or HEL Shotgun basically everywhere.
rare wren
Yes, it's just better DMR, and DMR is kind of good.
To me it feels like the Hel Revo's best use is head that maybe incidentally hits another, then hit the body of the first to kill it and pen a second
But it doesn't seem worth using the time to line up heads with the Hel Revo
mellow hedge
To me it feels like the Hel Revo's best use is head that maybe incidentally hits...
Its reload cancel is also very good
rare wren
If you're sweating, you take Sawed-off or HEL Shotgun basically everywhere.
Are they sweaty weapons?
rare wren
Its reload cancel is also very good
That I've noticed
pastel dagger
<@553357041586929704> sorry but someone joined my call drunk and is talking poli...
explain what polical is
mellow hedge
Are they sweaty weapons?
Its more just like if you know how to use them ppropperly they are incredibly good
rare wren
Its more just like if you know how to use them ppropperly they are incredibly go...
What is proper use case?
Sawed Off feels just like
modern coral
Are they sweaty weapons?
HEL Shotgun is very high effort and skill-intensive. Sawed-off is just kind of busted, but it can feel a little annoying if you're not used to lacking range (you don't need range, turns out).
rare wren
Touch tips with a Striker and delete it
rare wren
HEL Shotgun is very high effort and skill-intensive. Sawed-off is just kind of ...
Is the Hel Shotgun good the lazy way?
I didn't really know there was a high effort way
modern coral
Not nearly as good to use lazily as other pen guns.
It's low damage and low range
It doesn't hurt to use lazily, but it will feel really bad.
rare wren
What is high effort use?
modern coral
You stagger or two-tap stuff that's on its own until you have a bunch of enemies at once
Then you aim at different parts of a big ball of enemies to keep them staggered until they're all dead.
modern coral
Combat Shotgun but a fair bit better, and more reliable.
pastel dagger
big effort much wow
modern coral
Enemies will never block shots to prevent you from hitting enemies behind them
and w/ pen you are just hurting a lot.
rare wren
You stagger or two-tap stuff that's on its own until you have a bunch of enemies...
So only use on hordes
modern coral
how do we, after peak 5c2, have 5c3, one of the levels ever made
C3 was an Ext level.
modern coral
So only use on hordes
It's a wave clear Special, but it's a Main weapon.
Its giant damage is fine tbh
modern coral
You go to a spot w/ a long sightline where you know enemies will go
and you try to get lines
More big orange hitmarker = bigger dopamine
rare wren
More big orange hitmarker = bigger dopamine
I love big orange hitmarker man
pastel dagger
360 noscope charger line
rare wren
Whatโs the difference between big red and big orange?
rare wren
Sometimes I kill without getting big orange
rare wren
They are kind of buggy if you are client
That explains it
modern coral
If you are client, you often won't get big orange
Which is less dopamine, but you can learn the death sounds to recover some of the hit.
Limb exploding also big dopamine
rare wren
Which is less dopamine, but you can learn the death sounds to recover some of th...
That sounds complicated
How advisable is soloing giants to get the same rush
modern coral
Not advisable
HEL Rifle OP, and being good with it helps you win
Winning = big dopamine
Messing up giant solo, dying, and then waiting a minute to be revived = low dopamine activity
pastel dagger
wait really
i dont care whether i win or lose
i just like the game
should i stop playing
rare wren
Messing up giant solo, dying, and then waiting a minute to be revived = low dopa...
Okay I got some new tech
Basically when you die
modern coral
should i stop playing
Time to install Samdown
rare wren
You go on your phone and scroll Instagram
pastel dagger
i dont have a static tho
modern coral
Hit up Hani for carry, idk
pastel dagger
You go on your phone and scroll Instagram
ew
modern coral
Okay I got some new tech
This is important tech
But it's more like compensating for low dopamine
rather than being a high dopamine activity
modern coral
Could damage the PC
pastel dagger
it could work if u play on the laptop
pastel dagger
im just waiting for 26th march
pastel dagger
nothing to do really before that
rare wren
Revolver delete button
modern coral
Could be high dopamine, good variety picks
rare wren
The Revolver gives me so much dopamine it isnโt even funny
Until I miss an entire clip and cry
modern coral
@rare wren Example clip: https://youtu.be/td4mT5sUDok
Chargers here are really nice, because they have consistent stances and move more predictably. When you see a strafe happen, you can look for two enemies to overlap. For chargers in particular, you can also just stand further back and they'll end up moving around a lot less.
Again, on strikers it's just genuinely very hard to hit the same lines
rare wren
<@681301737063448577> Example clip: https://youtu.be/td4mT5sUDok
Chargers here a...
Those were sexy
modern coral
Tyty
rare wren
What the fuck was the first thing though
rare wren
Again, on strikers it's just genuinely very hard to hit the same lines
Is your best bet when theyโre grouped in a horde?
modern coral
Is your best bet when theyโre grouped in a horde?
It's a good bet, and that's ideal for HEL Shotgun. For typical line play, you more want a long sightline where enemies come in back-to-back and converge into one pathway that gets them to you.
You have to worry about intimidation on strikers, where enemies will back up and strafe to the sides, but having a specific path you're holding gives you place to aim where every enemy heading to you will want to go there.
and will ideally also stay along that trajectory for a bit
rough fern
Currently doing R2D2 with 3 players and a bot - good secondary choices?
modern coral
Currently doing R2D2 with 3 players and a bot - good secondary choices?
For bots, Burst Cannons.
For you, not sure, probably HEL Rifle or HEL Gun
pastel dagger
good secondary choice is to find team
gaunt nacelle
For bots, Burst Cannons.
For you, not sure, probably HEL Rifle or HEL Gun
ive heard hel revo is good for r2d2 too
pastel dagger
u can do whatever tbh
hel revo hel rifle
pick 1-2 hel rifles and the rest hel guns
or whatever
rare wren
For bots, Burst Cannons.
For you, not sure, probably HEL Rifle or HEL Gun
Note for these, if you guys are all holding right next to each other enemies will split off less making for easier Hel weapon shots
rough fern
I've used the HEL Gun before and I know why they are the better choices but I can't get the hang of em
Ah cool cool
rare wren
You have to worry about intimidation on strikers, where enemies will back up and...
So positioning is the key thing
What was the thing at the start of the clip you shotgunned?
modern coral
So positioning is the key thing
Yes, and even stuff like getting to position early enough that you don't have enemies behind you or anything.
pastel dagger
I've used the HEL Gun before and I know why they are the better choices but I ca...
take hel rifle then, but dont pick it for your entire team, or do, idc, but 1-2 should be enough
try defend in reactor room code4 onwards
modern coral
Easiest to get lines if you are very stable, and getting good lines will keep you stable becuase you can kill enemies so quickly.
modern coral
What was the thing at the start of the clip you shotgunned?
Tank, you'll meet him later.
pastel dagger
what is south room
pastel dagger
the zone u alarm to enter?
rare wren
the zone u alarm to enter?
Yes
pastel dagger
its pretty bad
rare wren
Like
pastel dagger
ngl
i did it a lot of times
shit sucks dick
just do reactor room itself
so much better
rare wren
I met a Mother, a PMother, Babies, Giant Chargers, and Charger Scouts in the span of like
Two days
rare wren
so much better
How about spawn 
pastel dagger
better
rare wren
Also whatโs the strat for Mothers?
modern coral
Kill bb
rare wren
Pure โWhat the fuck is thatโ moments like seeing a PMother up close?
rare wren
you can either kill bb or rush mom
BB?
pastel dagger
babies
pastel dagger
Pure โWhat the fuck is thatโ moments like seeing a PMother up close?
where are u at
rare wren
Donโt they only spawn if you trigger them?
rare wren
where are u at
Failed at Charger Scouts in R3D1
modern coral
I sleep
rare wren
Beaten everything before that
pastel dagger
they spawn if mom woke up and has seen you in her line of sight
junior latch
Also whatโs the strat for Mothers?
Kill with killing gun
Have 1-2 people rdy to kill babies spawning with spawn killing guns
pastel dagger
or there are some baby blood doors here and there
rare wren
Also wow R3 is much easier I feel
pastel dagger
isnt it considered the second easiest
maiden sentinel
hey there folks
proper iron
hi
maiden sentinel
new here but looking for folks to do some GTFO never found ppl to play this with
proper iron
.t lfg
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maiden sentinel
interested in doing all the missions
proper iron
you can use lfg
but this game is p2p so you should play with the same region or with good internet host
maiden sentinel
ok will try to find some folks that way then
sullen pelican
ok will try to find some folks that way then
Heyo
Id be down to play through a rundown together start to finish
sullen pelican
Sup
late plinth
is the carbine still the best main weapon?
proper iron
not the best but still good
late plinth
what would you say is the best all-rounder
near stag
slug shotgun
burnt flume
what would you say is the best all-rounder
Sawed off is indisputably the best main weapon, but if you want something a bit more classical then there's hel revolver (if you can play lines and reload cancel)
graceful geode
what would you say is the best all-rounder
What Goat said. Sawed off because it ain't hard to use and can deal with most situations fine. Otherwise HEL Revolver if you're good at aiming or Carbine if you're really bad at aiming.
Not that Sawed off requires you to be a sharpshooter tbh, even I do decently with it.
I just aim for upper torso and get onetaps which I guess is good enough.
late plinth
I see, thanks for the input
fringe garden
pdw sniper into shadow giants is so so fun to play
hard but i think it has very cool skill expression
late plinth
Sawed off is indisputably the best main weapon, but if you want something a bit ...
what weapon should I give bots?
hasty bobcat
pdw sniper into shadow giants is so so fun to play
how about u just play sniper into shadow giants
rose nova
what weapon should I give bots?
bots shoot on line of sight at range and dont care if the enemy is big or small, so burst rifle or hel revo for main is usually the choice
i personally do burst rifle
and for the special, machinegun or burst cannon
fringe garden
how about u just play sniper into shadow giants
doable but i think it is less interesting because it limits you to ranges where you can actually distinguish the shadows
burnt flume
what weapon should I give bots?
for longevity, burst rifle + veruta machine gun
for killing power, double tap + burst cannon
rose nova
just take into account burstcannon can do some dmg on friendly fire
specially in duos or trios
fringe garden
ff damage from bots is a skill issue
rose nova
when its 2 people its so common
hushed flint
wheres my gtfo movie ๐
fringe garden
how about u just play sniper into shadow giants
sub hour later?
hushed flint
time and money
rose nova
u can get money scam some people
hasty bobcat
way later maybe
rose nova
create time
fringe garden
ye my day just started am flexible
hasty bobcat
same
rose nova
same
hushed flint
this game should get a spin off
late plinth
I see, thanks @rose nova and @burnt flume
hushed flint
yall think u guys can survive the rundowns in real life or nah
hasty bobcat
i'd go long
hushed flint
i would win
near stag
i'd go long
yes, by shooting my teammates and hiding in a pipe like Shaeffer
lunar island
yall think u guys can survive the rundowns in real life or nah
Nam-v would be the end of you.
You'd catch it practically instantly and from there, you have a shelf life of five weeks or less.
No exceptions.
If you try and enter hydrostasis, you'd get kso-ified like dauda and schaeffer.
No real good options.
Only under very specific circumstances
worthy flicker
Only under very specific circumstances
True, but they are replicatable, no?
lunar island
Schaeffer's assigned quad got completely fucked. He barely survived, the warden figured he was dead and stopped updating his stack. He wandered for God knows how long until he was eventually "out of range" and had to tear his out surgically.
worthy flicker
Tbh if he could tear it out himself they weren't planting em deep enough
lunar island
We fry our chips, yes, but that is only because we are under schaeffer's control at that point and he really doesn't know what he is doing
He doesn't know how to update our stack like warden and biocom do.
We'd never have the opportunity to fry our chips without outside intervention
pseudo sedge
did henriksson know how to update our stack?
lost lynx
He doesn't know how to update our stack like warden and biocom do.
Funny
Because we update our own stack in some levels
lunar island
Tbh if he could tear it out himself they weren't planting em deep enough
He used a surgical machine, like henriksson
No other way I'd reckon. The chips at the very least have wires that go all the way through your brain given they can see out your eyes
lost lynx
did henriksson know how to update our stack?
Most likely, yes
lunar island
You would absolutely not want to try and tear that out manually
lunar island
Funny
Because we update our own stack in some levels
I'm not quite sure how, to be honest.
worthy flicker
He used a surgical machine, like henriksson
Alright that's more fair
lunar island
We don't have actual evidence in logs he used a machine like the one he uses for henriksson... but I just don't see any other way
It's in too deep
worthy flicker
I just don't see someone digging it out with a scalpel and their 2 fingers, yk?
lunar island
You'd be blind for the surgery as well because it is on the back of your head
lost lynx
Cave divers when they see a small hole in a persons head
lunar island
And if you do it wrong, we'll you would have the potential to be blind blind forever
Or worse
worthy flicker
But it is replicatable, if not easy
worthy flicker
Also there's no way they had 0 non KSOifiying pods around right?
lunar island
We only have two examples.
worthy flicker
On the off chance this happens to someone important
lunar island
Well, three
Ogr5 dauda's lab, ogr6 KDS-DEEP where schaeffer got in, and wherever alt:// dauda entered
worthy flicker
So, hypothetically, you can ve cured of being a sleeper and not come out of it KSO'd, it's just extraneous
lunar island
You... you'd have to be very very lucky.
Or have a malfunctioning pod, which thinks you already have a chip when you dont
Regardless, you'd be sacrificing your memories for it.
And even then... who'd wake you up?
worthy flicker
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worthy flicker
Regardless, you'd be sacrificing your memories for it.
Pal they're gone to trauma anyway
You can't take what isn't there
lost lynx
And even then... *who'd wake you up?*
imagine being all of those KSO's stuck in KDS Deep
lunar island
You can't take what isn't there
They'll take your 5th birthday cake.
lunar island
they will never wake up again
Cut without power in a cave on a jungle/jurassic park planet
Though for that topic we should move to lore
If you want to continue discussing
pliant talon
Is GTFO compatible with a steam deck?
worthy flicker
I've heard it's kinda garbage on deck, can't say firsthand tho
fresh heron
Is GTFO compatible with a steam deck?
You can play on it I don't recommend it. It's nearly as bad as playing with controller
pliant talon
You can play on it I don't recommend it. It's nearly as bad as playing with con...
I see, thanks for the info
gaunt nacelle
@pliant talon could use a Bluetooth keyboard, that or learn how to be very quick with terminal with the decks screen but itโs not gonna be as good as keyboard
pliant talon
<@922114349328396319> could use a Bluetooth keyboard, that or learn how to be ve...
I play on pc, friend was thinking about getting a steam deck and I was wondering if gtfo was compatible with the game
But if a Bluetooth keyboard could help
Iโll pass it along
gaunt nacelle
It should be able to run it but idk, it isnโt a controller friendly game
pliant talon
How so?
gaunt nacelle
(Fortunately or unfortunately)
pliant talon
Fair