gtfo-chat

[lost lynx]

I mean

It's not wrong

[naive rover]

Perhaps "they sounded hungry, didn't they?

[analog flicker]

[worthy flicker]

Imagine GTFO with War Thunder tier loading screen tips

Just the most sardonic sounding horseshit

[lost lynx]

You got scouted
Get good

Now thats a tip

[naive rover]

That artwork would be fucking epic though

[worthy flicker]

Yeah it would

[worthy flicker]

This is unironically a war thunder tier tip

"Use Binoculars, they're free" is actual war thunder loading screen advice

[naive rover]

"fire extinguishers put out fires"

[worthy flicker]

"Use the biotracker to track enemies"

[lost lynx]

AINT NO WAY

i love it

[naive rover]

"Guns shoot bullets"

"terminals have information"

[compact folio]

"Reload your weapons"

[magic forum]

Ayo, I got an 120% tool supply thing? It has six uses

[worthy flicker]

Yup

[rose nova]

yeh :D

[magic forum]

It isnt a bug?

[lost lynx]

They are weird

[lost lynx]

Nope

[compact folio]

Just rare I think

[magic forum]

Six use health pack

[shy moat]

The drop into the complex with exposition is 100x better than any loading screen tips

[magic forum]

The game is having mercy

[shy moat]

That means you have a class VII alarm door ahead of you

[worthy flicker]

I know a dude who reads out the drop screen text with emotion every single time

[shy moat]

Dude sounds like the best member of the party

I'd kill to play with someone that invested lmao

[lost lynx]

Just keep in mind we are basically waking up from our last expedition

[worthy flicker]

@orchid rover

[lost lynx]

Which means our whole life is
Go in
Fight
Go out

[rare wren]

It's great isn't it

Also are you free RN

[shy moat]

If y'all ever have an open slot, just know that I'd love to experience this

[orchid rover]

hi :3

[analog flicker]

[worthy flicker]

That depends on what you're asking for

[rare wren]

Fill for new person R1A1

But we just got someone

[magic forum]

Does the game have lore or something?

[rare wren]

Oh boy

[analog flicker]

Yes.

[worthy flicker]

I do not want to play r1a1 rn tbh

[worthy flicker]

You have no idea pal

[orchid rover]

will keep that in mind

[rare wren]

@worthy flicker Prolly gonna help someone through R2D1 in a bit

Down?

[worthy flicker]

Tbh? I just woke up and I need to eat. Idk rn.

[magic forum]

How deep? Star Wars after disney bought it deep?

[rare wren]

By a bit I mean like

An hour to two

[worthy flicker]

Let me figure myself out for like an hour.

[rare wren]

#gtfo-lore

@orchid rover Same offer

[worthy flicker]

Like, it's not deep enough for em to explain how the micronization of ETC tech for Hel Guns works but it is deep enough to tell you about a bunch of shit you probably don't need to know about ever

[lost lynx]

Read the for dummies doc in #gtfo-lore

Pinned messages

This game has one hell of a lore

[magic forum]

Yeah, will look into it, seems interesting.

[analog flicker]

[lost lynx]

Hello Solace

[magic forum]

Would all 3 sentries aiming at the hole in the wall at the foot of the bridge be a goot choke point?

I got plenty of Tool Packs so ammo isnt an issue

[rose nova]

u mean like lookin at the hole in front of the truck or so- yes

i would still use only two sentries for the first waves tho

it just saves running and u have more ammo than tool so

mostly would save the sniper sentyr for the big shooters

[brisk solar]

id say dont put the sentries too close to each other cus it will hit the same guys

[rose nova]

if its bursts they just finish eachothers kills

[brisk solar]

thats a great point

[magic forum]

I DID IT!

[rose nova]

GAMERING

[magic forum]

YEAH bro, it was insane at the end, legit I got to 1HP two times, but I did it.

What I did at the end was space the turrest on the bridge so they would work like a normal tower defence while me and the bots shot the zombies from the catwalk.

This is legit the most satisfying win I have done in a while

[rose nova]

gtfo magic :3

lets gooo

thats probs about the hardest mission on r1 so

🎉

[magic forum]

Yeah, it was hard, but fair at the end, I will try to to C2 and D1 tomorrow night, but now I want to relax so Minecraft here I come.

[compact folio]

Those are nice warmup missions when I haven't played in a week

Mentally stimulating enough to get me in the GTFOing mood but still easy

[barren dew]

What’s a good loadout to give the bots? I’ve currently got them on assault rifles and the techman XII

But I keep losing my runs on r1d1

[compact folio]

Apparently burst rifle is good with bots

But idk if there are other weapons they are decent with or not

[barren dew]

Thank you, might try and give that to them

[rare wren]

@barren dew Burst Rifle and Machine Guns are typically the move

Always Biotracker as well

[magic forum]

Biotracker is OP, legit the best tool there is

[barren dew]

Yeah I’ve got 1 on bio tracker and myself and the other 2 bots bring sentries

[lost lynx]

Yep

Biotracker is the only way to know where enemies are

11/10 Best tool by far

[magic forum]

Spoilers: ||I am also hearing it helps tracks enemies you cant see?||

[lost lynx]

Oh

SPOILERS

[magic forum]

Censored.

[lost lynx]

I wont say anything

You'll see

[barren dew]

What do you mean spoilers?

Just like the enemies behind the walls?

[rare wren]

Hehe hoohoo

[lost lynx]

Dont say

Shhhhh 000

[rare wren]

You'll see

[pale hinge]

necesito 2 jugadores latinos para pasar todo desde el comienzo alguien ?

[barren dew]

Somehow by what you guys have been saying I think I won’t???

[rare wren]

But yeah enemies with no LoS

[lost lynx]

#hc-latin-america

#lfg-latin-america

[rare wren]

Well yes, they're behind walls @barren dew

[lost lynx]

You guys will see later what we mean

It's not that far

[barren dew]

Alrighty

Yeah I spent like 3 hours on D1 and I have only made it to the door to get to the reactor ONCE and I died before even starting the scan

So I think ima be stuck there for a bit

[lost lynx]

You basically have the level done

[barren dew]

I’m gonna buy it for a friend so we can hit our head on the wall together

[lost lynx]

Only like 10 more mins in total

[barren dew]

But what about the reactor? It’s like 8 waves right? (Not sure how many waves it is, just guessing based off C2)

[lost lynx]

D1 is a reactor shutdown

Very different objectives (they are a bit similar)

[barren dew]

oooh

[lost lynx]

R1C1 is a reactor startup

[barren dew]

So I don’t need to spend 20 minutes per run going through each side area in that fork of 3 areas after the first alarm scan to get supplies for like 50 waves?

[lost lynx]

Also not all reactors have 8 waves

[rare wren]

@barren dew Are you soloing?

[lost lynx]

And some reactors will need you to look for codes in other areas

[lost lynx]

I really recommend avoiding the side áreas if You can

R1D1 side rooms are not that useful

[barren dew]

Yeah 😅 I was doing it with ppl from here earlier but I was more or less just being pulled through the game rather than get to play it myself, I didn’t feel like I was doing anything and I didn’t know what we were even doing for the objectives

[lost lynx]

Dont solo
Play with bots

Bots good

And cool

[barren dew]

Oh sorry I mean yeah I’m using bots

Sorry that’s my bad

[rare wren]

You just need good people who are willing to teach TBH

[barren dew]

I thought they meant like if I had other players

[final coyote]

hey lily need someone to play with?

[barren dew]

Im alright for now thank you, taking a bit of a break from it since i just spent 3 hours on the grind XD

[final coyote]

@lost lynx should I sticl to bots for the complete R1 campaigns?

[lost lynx]

Uuuuh

R1C1 and R1C2 might be a problem

R1D1 too

So if you can get people do it

[rare wren]

I think playing with other people is always the best

[final coyote]

playing with other yes

if they're playing L4Dead

did 2 matches just now and they started blasting like crazy

[brisk solar]

i need a lvl that have class 5 at the start or isnt to far

[lost lynx]

[sullen pelican]

@fathom delta Hey are you looking for a 4th?

Saw your message in Lfg beginners

[fathom delta]

We got a fourth but I'll let you know if anyone leaves!

[sullen pelican]

Bet

[fringe garden]

r2c1 first alarm is class 5
decent few rooms to get to it but it's probably the fastest

[proper iron]

r1d1 first alarm

[fringe garden]

r1d1 first is class 4

second and third are class 5

oh wait r5d1 first is class 5

[proper iron]

But its also a class M.small difference

[naive rover]

@rose nova @lost lynx , not sure if you guys are awake anymore but I just showed R1C1 Reactor to 2 of my friends for the first time (these two are newbies with about 10 hours in the game) and it's crazy how hard a knowledge carry goes.

Beat it first try on account of "I know what to do".

The first time I ever played that level took my OG team like 4-5 tries before our first win lol

[honest parrot]

Well most people know that

Especially the ones that pub often

The knowledge check for some levels is really good

For others they help make the journey much easier

[naive rover]

I know you guys know that

I just need to tell you I've experienced it finally.

[runic moss]

Nice!

That must feel like a great feeling

[honest parrot]

Well you aren't that much of a vet yet that's on the level of carrying someone
So those moments would shine much more than any solo you can pull off

[runic moss]

(Also, hello!)

[naive rover]

You my 400 hours is nothing compared to you guys lol

[daring ginkgo]

honestly there are not much knowledge tied to this lvl, you can just tell to party members, that they need to move closer to beginning of lvl to get resources and come back to defend spot 🤔

[fathom delta]

Spot just opened up if you want to join, we're in a run atm though

[jaunty girder]

how bad is it if i join an NA server from asia

[honest parrot]

p2p so if you have good connection it's fine

[sullen pelican]

playing duo wiht afriend

[sullen pelican]

its honestly not that abd

[jaunty girder]

alright thx

[honest parrot]

What level are you doing

[naive rover]

Yes

this question

[fathom delta]

R1B2

[honest parrot]

Mind if I come in?

[fathom delta]

Not at all, you're welcome to join us

[naive rover]

Do you have 2 spots open???

All my friends are asleep 🥱

[naive rover]

Yeah it's true. Main thing is knowing the bridge hold and packing up before you get to reactor startup.

[naive rover]

Nevermind I see you are full

[fathom delta]

I will let you know if anything changes haha

[naive rover]

lol sure sounds good, dude.

[sullen pelican]

@runic moss are you looking to fill any slots?

[wary hull]

Hello

How are you guys

[honest parrot]

Fair enough

[sullen pelican]

doin, fine, looking for people to play with

[honest parrot]

Er4din if you need to find a group you can always host your own lobby

[sullen pelican]

well aware

but id rather first talk to people here than just throw the link into the vcuum of space

id like to run through r1 c2 today

[wary hull]

Hmm

[sullen pelican]

wanna play duo?

[wary hull]

Can anyone of you do a little help

[wary hull]

I don't have the game unfortunately

[sullen pelican]

what are you doin here then lol

[honest parrot]

Looking to get it or just here to hang out?

...This community isn't exactly bustling so hanging out might be a bit hard

[sullen pelican]

community seems fine

theres a sale ongoing

[wary hull]

Hmm

[wary hull]

You can help me?

[sullen pelican]

with what

[wary hull]

Uhh game?

Can you?

[sullen pelican]

buy it for you?

bruh no

is this behaviour normal on here? @honest parrot

[honest parrot]

No

Once every year or so we see a guy come in for something like that I suppose

[proper iron]

just wait for random stranger to give 50$ in this server

[sullen pelican]

yeah that guy is blocked

[proper iron]

you just too late

it legit trust me bro

[wary hull]

What?

[boreal venture]

anyone want to do a mission?

[sullen pelican]

sure

thouogh im still a little green

[proper iron]

it just scam dont mind it

[boreal venture]

that's fine we can finish an early mission

[sullen pelican]

bet send lobby link

[wary hull]

Sad lids

Life

[azure siren]

looking for group. i am new

[wary hull]

Hello

[barren dew]

holy crap

just beat r1d1 with the bots, JEEZUS CHRIST

I had to switch EVERYONE to the burst sentry for the necessary crowd control on the scans XD

so no biotracker hurt

[honest parrot]

what weapons were you running

[rose nova]

thats why when i tend to play with newies, i say NOTHING mskdmms

[rose nova]

that sounds tougher than 3 sentries bio jesus kcsmdkm

[barren dew]

burst rifle and the techman V on all the bots, and I used the malatack lx and the techman V

[barren dew]

nah, 3 sentries was not holding enough of the enemies back, I was trying to make it so I wouldn't need to fight the monsters at all during the scans so it went faster

still had to kill some guys but it made the class V alarms easier

[junior latch]

Dont
Use
Manufacturer names

[rose nova]

i mean its a strat but 4 sentries usually dont do that much more than 3 plus the ending its like uh uhh

[barren dew]

sorry

[rose nova]

i mean mg bit necessary

wait

no yes techman v is veruta? or arba?

fuck

nevermind

[upbeat yacht]

arba

[junior latch]

The difference between 3 and 4 sentries is smaller than the rng difference of getting a single giant less or more

Plus you run out of tool faster

[junior latch]

Nah dw

Its just confusing for no reason
Base names are way cleaner

[junior latch]

But not „techman V“

veruta mg and arbalist mg

[rose nova]

i got very confused there ngl sorry dksmkm

i thought i had read arba instead of techman

[junior latch]

And well

Having enemies come into your room (having 3 sentries down) should rly just be smth you shoot ON scan

[honest parrot]

Don't worry
Half the time if you use the manufacture names we just don't remember what weapons you're running

[wary hull]

Umm hello

[junior latch]

dont get carried by sentries, it may bite you later down the line

[barren dew]

yeah, I prolly should have spaced out the turrets since they'd sometimes probably fire at the same target but the difference with the ease I was having to get past my previous run killing scenarios was enough for me to warrant it there

[junior latch]

[barren dew]

also I went into the side areas to resupply so that fixed the running out of tool issue

[junior latch]

oof

[rose nova]

hii hello hi hello

[wary hull]

How are you

[junior latch]

I can tell you that the 4th sentry likely didnt change much in terms of fire power

[rose nova]

its 4 am im sleepy :D

[barren dew]

ended the mission with like myself and a bot both having a 4 use ammo, one of the bots having a 3 use health and the other having a tool resupply (not sure on the number)

[wary hull]

Ohh

[junior latch]

The alarms in r1d1 can spawn giants/hybrids

a single one makes it so a wave either gets past the sentries or none at all

[rose nova]

lotta res on d1

that red zone should be just wiped off the map tbh

[junior latch]

But hey you on r2 now!

[barren dew]

yeah r2!

[junior latch]

It will be chill until like c2

then the game actually goes and picks up a bit

[rose nova]

omg r2 time to fucking ditch the other 2 sentries :D

🎉

[wary hull]

I hate my life man

[barren dew]

haha yeah I'm switching bishop back to bio tracker and myself to the C-foam launcher

[junior latch]

Do not take foam without mines

[barren dew]

why do I need mines?

[junior latch]

what are you using foam for

[barren dew]

on the floor before the sentries

[rose nova]

gtfo makes our lifes better ✨

[barren dew]

to slow down the waves

[junior latch]

yea thats not doing much or very efficient

floor foam is like a last resort

it doesnt rly slow down enemies
It freezes them if they touch enough blobs (which then obviously dissapear)

[wary hull]

I don't have it

[junior latch]

cfoam realistically is for doors 99% of the time

[rose nova]

buy i think its on sale :D

[wary hull]

I am broke brother

[junior latch]

and well

if you close a door and cfoam it (to stall a big wave)

how can you kill that wave easily @barren dew

[barren dew]

ooh okay

[wary hull]

Can any one of you help

[upbeat yacht]

r2b1 will teach you the usefullness of mines right away

[barren dew]

sentry hell behind it?

[junior latch]

• its rly cheap rn
• dont beg for games on official discords. Or rly anywhere

[junior latch]

Nope

[barren dew]

or I'm guessing by your setup for the message, mines?

[junior latch]

thats less efficient than having the door open and sentry aiming at it

[wary hull]

Ignored 😔

[junior latch]

Yup

A single mine (horizontal, about ankle to knee height IN the door frame on your side of the door) will kill basically all of the wave alone

[barren dew]

dang

[sharp owl]

Do bots use the tools?

[honest parrot]

You have to tell them to use tools

[rose nova]

they werent beggin rlly i was tellin em to buy it

[junior latch]

you can tell them to with the q-comms menu

[honest parrot]

Through the Q commands

[barren dew]

but then I only get 1 sentry, I need like 2 so I can hold positions since the bots just follow me I need to lead them to the scans otherwise they just don't do them

so I can't hold down waves

[honest parrot]

In the tool section

[junior latch]

they partially asked way above already

[barren dew]

and I can't tell the bots to sit somewhere tower defense style

[rose nova]

i mean its not like u move with the sentries, u place ur sentries and they just stay

[sharp owl]

How do I tell them to use them?

[rose nova]

thats them holding position

[rose nova]

Q

[honest parrot]

Q

[junior latch]

1. if you cfoam and mine enemies dont get in until they break door and die and respawn
2. you dont always need foam, but a mine can still kill a bunch on a door
3. shoot them on the scans?

[rose nova]

then "use tools"

[honest parrot]

Hold Q and select the 'Tools' subsection

Remember to hold it

OR else you won't see the menu

[sharp owl]

TYYY

[honest parrot]

For sentries look at the spot you want to play it
It's like an up arrow ^

[barren dew]

scans don't often get LoS, like d1 rarely had good line of sight to the enemy spawns for the class IV alarm door

[honest parrot]

For mines and foam look at the spot you want to place it and tell them to

[barren dew]

but I'll try foam, mines, turret, tracker

[honest parrot]

The mine one looks like a hexagon while cfoam doesn't have an indicator

[sharp owl]

Thanks, I already said they didn't use anything xD

[barren dew]

yeah you just look at the ground and do the dialogue to say to put it down

and they will do it

[junior latch]

Why do you need los to their spawns?

the enemies come into your room where you shoot them

[barren dew]

I have a hard time shooting around level geometry, it's literally a skill issue

[junior latch]

^

enemies always walk up to you and start their attack windup

[sullen pelican]

i heard something from somewhere about low arches acting as room dividers same as doors, can anyone explain exactle what that was about and what it meant?

would this count?

[junior latch]

Lemme guess
Spiff

The arches isnt what rly matters here

[sullen pelican]

image shared in media

would that qualify

[sullen pelican]

probably idk

[junior latch]

„Open room dividers“ or „invisible rooms dividers“ as we call them are simply a divider between 2 rooms

You can tell by the room signs saying/using different letters (this is the case in every level at spawn to 2nd room)

They work like an open door

[sullen pelican]

trying to figure out where exactly a wave from this level 3 alarm can spawn

[junior latch]

look at the room signs

look at the map

[sullen pelican]

great 5 minute freakign timer

[junior latch]

easiest way to figure this out 👍

[sullen pelican]

the entire thing is 93b

so same room then?

great bots threw cfoam grenades through the door i told them to foam

jfc

[junior latch]

if foam goes through a closed doors you might wanna restart

[sullen pelican]

ive spent an hour here

im not reastarting

[junior latch]

is this r1c2?

[fringe garden]

yes

(z93 is 1c2)

[junior latch]

an hour on r1c2 and in zone 93 o.O?

[sullen pelican]

ye

[fringe garden]

ig they did class 3 to z90

[sullen pelican]

ive done it 100% stealth so far

[fringe garden]

• being slow and clearing first zone completely i can see an hour

[sullen pelican]

so takin it slow and loving it

[junior latch]

Also yea I know
the confusion was on the time

[junior latch]

stealth as in sneaking past
Or stealth as in stealth killing

because 1 hour to that class 3 alarm is… not good man

[fringe garden]

i want to end myself i died to gen alarm because i kept getting not sentry direction spawns this is fucking awful

i should have just gone long but i didn't waant to and 2 hours gone

[sullen pelican]

hollyyyy fuck

we got bulldozed

i didnt expect a wave full of chargers

i thought they werent supposed to be a thing until rundown 7??

[fringe garden]

was on last scan 😔 and got sandwiched i really should've just gone long to force wave to return through sentry

[fringe garden]

??????

they're in every rundown

[sullen pelican]

yet another thing ive heard from somewhere

[junior latch]

Value your time :(

[junior latch]

Not in r2

[fringe garden]

ok that's true

[honest parrot]

Try to keep hearsay of that sort behind a grain of salt

That, or look for evidence to support it

[pastel dagger]

just get a job looooooool 4 head

[lost lynx]

Misinformation

Mods, ban em

[honest parrot]

don't you and I both contribute to this sort of misinfo from time to time as well

(me obviously doing so more often than most)

[lost lynx]

Shhhhhhh

SHHHHHHHHH

[dense nova]

merhaba türk oyuncu varmı

[daring ginkgo]

Wtf, i dont know how to pass zone 165 with cell on r8b4

Those wave spawns are bullshit tbh

And stupid long corridor

[lost lynx]

just keep in mind it was worse in release

[burnt flume]

and how the fuck is this meant to be helpful?

"i don't know what to do here"
"WELL IT USED TO BE WORSE YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL"

incredible dialogue

[mellow hedge]

its kinda hard with bots, but just keep in mind that cell spawns are static. you wanna funnel them through the far small door if possible

[burnt flume]

where's the classic gabe image

[lost lynx]

didnt you blocked me?

[burnt flume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585063132553281556/1287790079380557884/44904409975_8bb0aaab9c_z.jpg?ex=67cd03b8&is=67cbb238&hm=3b4360abfc6fc2f6635ce1f9d70264ed0b6f0cf83522bf2976b8dbf417e8f41d& it won't embed but there

[burnt flume]

blocked or not it doesn't stop you from being both annoying and unhelpful

[lost lynx]

too bad so sad

i wont go anywhere

[honest parrot]

(now that i think about it isn't your password still the troll one that's like hundreds of years in the future)

[lost lynx]

its uuuuh 4 years and like 3 months into the future

actually let me check

[junior latch]

165 is first cell frosty

they need to go inside and enemies will follow so they have to push outside while carrying cell (since bots lol)

@daring ginkgo you might have to see if you can foam and mine the big door in that zone and hope it breaks only when you are pushing out again
that way they spawn somewhat far way if lucky and you have a better breathing room

[lost lynx]

changed it
now its 24 years 8 months and 24 days

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, i am doing this, but door breaks faster then i can walk back

Maybe i should mine and cfoam next small door

Without spending time on big door

Also after checkpoint resets foam sometimes clips through door

[fringe garden]

i don't know the map of r8b4 is but if everything really sucks

you can despawn the bots

go long

and foam like 5 doors to have time to carry

[lost lynx]

theres a mod to fix that im pretty sure

[daring ginkgo]

Nah, i will walk alone straight through waves of enemies while carrying cell

[daring ginkgo]

So it will not work

[fringe garden]

?

[daring ginkgo]

This

If i despawn bots

[fringe garden]

????

yeah you go kiting

[daring ginkgo]

🤢

[fringe garden]

like yeah it sucks but it's better than not clearing

[honest parrot]

(I guess because dark doesn't want to kite he instead has bots clear for him while he takes objective through?)

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, i havent enough experience on kiting, but this map seems hard to kite imo

[honest parrot]

For r8b4 that might pose it's own problems, but I don't solo enough to see it

[fringe garden]

so you need to grab cell from somewhere in 165 and get out?

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, and this zone is long straight corridor like room

[fringe garden]

yeah im looking at the map

[honest parrot]

It sucks even with 4

[daring ginkgo]

With another player he can just permafoam door ig

While you getting cell

[honest parrot]

depends on how much foam you have

If you skip sec you can technically pull it off

Since most of the time sec's strat is a permafoam door for pubs

[daring ginkgo]

And cell position is fixed -literal end of this zone

[fringe garden]

that sucks

so you need what from entering zone

1 minute to get out with cell?

1:30?

[daring ginkgo]

Something like that

While waves of enemies spawning (strikers, giants and nightmares (if you did sec) )

[fringe garden]

ok with the kite and foam strat you can get 1:20 of headstart

which is pretty good

[honest parrot]

Unless you get a troll spot for cell 1:30 should be good enough?

[daring ginkgo]

Cell position is fixed

[wary hull]

Hello

[junior latch]

with another player they just hold outside and shoot the waves

[honest parrot]

Pubs don't usually do that very well so that part is more skewed towards foaming
Though that depends more on whether your foam dude even lives to that point

[wary hull]

This game has friend pass support?

[sharp owl]

I played a match of gtfo with some friends and we haven’t played together in like 3 months

We surprisedly didn’t scream at each ither

[lost lynx]

Hello Chaooos

[honest parrot]

What happened for you to change your name to R7E1 anyways

I like chaos more

[lost lynx]

He is still named Chaos

🤔

R7E1 = Chaos

[daring ginkgo]

okay, i will try r8b4 tomorrow but with 3 burst sentries

cluster scan on sec will be huge pain in the ass, but doing rest of main obj with 1 sniper turret seems near impossible

[wary hull]

Hello

[sharp owl]

Whats up

[sharp owl]

Chaos

[wary hull]

Ignored

[daring ginkgo]

i used emoji

i was too pissed to type something after my failed attempts

[sharp owl]

I find it interesting that people still know me after my several month hiatus

Fun fact, R1A1 has a chance of spawning big shooters instead of giants in the hsu zone

Did not know that

[fringe garden]

it happens like half the time

[honest parrot]

Yeah that can happen
When it does happen you teach the newbies how to deal with them which is pretty nice

[sharp owl]

24 r1a1 runs and got it twice

[lost lynx]

Hello?

[sharp owl]

Unlucky or bs

[fringe garden]

nah you just didn't explore hsu zone fully every time

[wary hull]

How are you

[sharp owl]

🥺

[honest parrot]

...Now that I think about it, why do you want this game anyways

It's usually pretty niche
And half the time people play this for little over a week and simply leave afterwards

[lost lynx]

We all have that one game we bought and played like 3 hours

And then we never played it again

[wary hull]

I want one like that

[lost lynx]

A what?

[honest parrot]

A game that someone would buy for you...
And you'd play for 3 hrs and leave?

[sharp owl]

Metro exodus

[daring ginkgo]

me with any survival games

[lost lynx]

I bought Metro Exodus
Then realised my laptop cant run it

It has been in my library for like

[daring ginkgo]

i buying them, play for 3h, then never open again xd

[lost lynx]

3-4 years now

[honest parrot]

Like the only game I have that follows that road is SCP 5K

And that's less bcs I don't like the game and more that i feel like I got scammed

[lost lynx]

I don't recommend buying SCP 5k rn

The only good level is the first one

And then thats it

They are reworking pretty much everything

But right now? Not really worth it

[honest parrot]

Playing on community servers has taught me that admins and mods can do whatever they want to you

...And I never went back ever since

[lost lynx]

They released it too early

Very very early

[rose nova]

like like 2 am

:3

[lost lynx]

If 24 hours was the full development of the game
They did kinda released it on 2 AM (right now would be 3AM)

So yes

You are right Slendi

[honest parrot]

I have made very poor financial choices in terms of my purchases of steam games over the past two years

...Partly due to not having any money to my own name before that point

I'm pretty sure I got scammed thrice by now

Better than none

[lost lynx]

Third time the charm?

[junior latch]

giant strikers are more common

[sharp owl]

My 15 fps in question

My pc is only 2 years old and I already need to start replacing parts

[fringe garden]

yeah, but the chance that there are any big shooters in hsu zone is about 50% in my experience

[sharp owl]

Gtfo will get an update

One day

Some day

[junior latch]

eeeeeh

[lost lynx]

What are your specs

[junior latch]

I dont think its 50% zed

[fringe garden]

maybe not 50 but it's pretty high

[junior latch]

its definetly not super duper rare, you see it now and then

[daring ginkgo]

for how long hel turret can shoot non-stop?

with 100%

[fringe garden]

1 minute

[daring ginkgo]

is it time for me to finally use it, i legit never used it 😂

[fringe garden]

when hel auto sentry is strong it is really strong

[junior latch]

if placed correctly it will certainly kill the wave well (also does well on the extreme cluster)

[fringe garden]

remember that it gets back dmg

[junior latch]

we use like 3 of them in the speedrun iirc

(then again we also dont rly fight the ending waves)

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, i am now thinking about 3 hel turrets

[junior latch]

anyway gl man
B4 is probably gonna be the 2nd hardest of the 2nd half for you

[daring ginkgo]

well, i found video on yt with bots clear at least

it was not better bots, cause player carried stuff by himself

[sharp owl]

Lemme find them, but currently I added 64GB of ram and a 2 TB SSD, lemme restart my pc I cant even type on discord give me a sec

So I have a RTX 3060 TI

[lost lynx]

How are you getting 15 FPS in SCP 5k

[sullen socket]

Why is R8C1 so fucked up (bugged) and evil (glitchy)

[lost lynx]

🤔

[sharp owl]

I spent more than 2 hours trouble shooting

Couldn’t do shit

If it wasn’t 15 fps it was choppy

Getting fps dips every like 10-20 seconds

[daring ginkgo]

how it is bugged?

[sharp owl]

Time to stream R1A1 grinding (please help)

[junior latch]

hm?

[lost lynx]

I got an RTX 1650
16 of RAM
And it runs at 50-60 FPS medium graphics without trouble

[sullen socket]

Well both of my first runthroughs I've activated a scout near the bulkhead terminal and either the scout or the enemies it's spawned has completely frozen or destroyed my ears with overlapping sound

I think I might need to verify my game files or something xd

[junior latch]

infinite screaming scout yaaay

[sharp owl]

I did get the ram AFTER uninstalling it so could see if it changed anything

[lost lynx]

That won't help
This bugs kinda just happen

GTFO is a game

[junior latch]

if the scout freezes its kinda fucked yea
it should be pretty rare generally, so likely just reset if it happens (or foam the scout thats frozen)

[sullen socket]

Splendid

[junior latch]

we ran R8C1 scout waking any% (half joking, we aggrod like 10-20 every run) and we only got it once in about 100 runs

[sullen socket]

I guess I just got real unlucky then because it happened twice in a row lmao

[junior latch]

its "more" common on r7d1 and r8c1 from my knowledge

also if you are trying to play r8c1 solo with bots

id advocate against it

not the most fun experience

[sharp owl]

1000 scout bugs

[daring ginkgo]

100%

[sullen socket]

Me and my friend duo a lot, is that slightly less of a horrible experience

[lost lynx]

Doing the uplinks with bots

[daring ginkgo]

easy peasy

[sullen socket]

Or is it the kinda level where you really want a full team

[daring ginkgo]

timed sequence tho 💀

[junior latch]

a ot less horrible

[daring ginkgo]

2 players is fine

[junior latch]

duo is very much playable

[burnt flume]

you can perservere as duo with bots

[lost lynx]

How much time do you have to instert the command?

[daring ginkgo]

10 sec on r8c1

[lost lynx]

Bruh

[honest parrot]

It's fun

[sullen socket]

[honest parrot]

...By fun I mean horrible

[lost lynx]

I thought it was like 20

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, any terminal outside main room is not possible to do in time

[honest parrot]

Lovely
Balanced

[fringe garden]

breaking news coop game is designed around having more than 1 player

[daring ginkgo]

devs decided, that 15 sec on r7d1 is too generous ig

[sharp owl]

5:28

couldve gotten a 5 min

if I didnt fumble so much

[somber halo]

109775244194108623

HELP

[sharp owl]

#how-to-matchmake

[honest parrot]

Oh btw since you were gone for a while

We retired the speedrunning chat and we're changing wikis

[mellow hedge]

how many clears do you have

[sharp owl]

huh

[sharp owl]

rn?

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[sharp owl]

27

uh god

screen bug

[mellow hedge]

i thought you had more

arent you going for 1000?

[sharp owl]

I'm playing pretty casually rn

sicne

I just got back in

no point in rushing it

I average 5-6 mins per clear

[fringe garden]

this would be way more interesting if you were pubbing it in #lfg-beginners

[sharp owl]

horrors

[burnt flume]

damn, 1 second slower than I

close, close

[sharp owl]

I mean I got a 5:01

[fringe garden]

r1a1 solo speeds is just find 2ammo and then full send it isn't it

[burnt flume]

uhhh yeah pretty much, ideally you find ammo and tool, but whatever happens you full send so lmao

solo speedrunning sucks

[fringe garden]

they're in the bushes

the shooters are in the fucking trees

[naive rover]

Yeah when we have room fails I’ve just been sprinting through and mostly hammering everything while they sit there and try to aim at the enemies cause they don’t really know how they move yet. I told them next time rooms wake up I’m just going to run to the door and lock them in so they can figure it out themselves lmao

[sharp owl]

I'm doing solo w/ bots

[rose nova]

yeah rlly the only like advice u ever need to give is 1- why they died 2- stuff u had to learn through the community too

as back damage or multiple guns killin scouts n shit

but otherwise eh

:3

[sharp owl]

god I wouldnt do 1000 R1A1 true solo runs

[rose nova]

good luck figuring out chatgers im not saying shit

[sharp owl]

thats alittle too much for me still

[honest parrot]

Meanwhile I'm the exact opposite

I just say a bit too much

[rose nova]

well that just sort of turns it extremely boring

heres tutorial now win

eh

part of the funs discovering how to do things

[honest parrot]

I mean half the time I teach them some basics
And then some more basics if they stick around

[lost lynx]

jesus i remember some LFG people wanted to follow scaler tutorials exactly like he said

[honest parrot]

And eventually just manage my way around saying just enough

[lost lynx]

horrible experience

[sharp owl]

scaler is not real

its a psyop

"good terminal gameplay"

[rose nova]

thats sorta why i dont like usin the r1c1 copypaste despite being the copypaste guy
i prefer dwellin deeper givin advice

[zenith barn]

109775244196272719 unete

[rose nova]

and i save myself whatever they havent figure out or stuff

[rose nova]

i guess it depends on what u see as basics

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies, the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[honest parrot]

Minor spawn logic talk that they won't remember
how to kill a scout
How to use the tools (Basics cause otherwise they won't remember)

Complaining about the fact that there's a checkpoint in R1A1

A lot

Giant stealth and chicken stealth
...Usually that's about when I stop

Oh and basic term knowledge

[rose nova]

i mean yeah thats about fine
i reserve terminal knowledge unless i see them rlly stuck, otherwise i just let em flounder on it for 5 10 mins and see

and on giant stealth i just like, tease it but not much more

unless its like an actual far level ksdmksm

d1 c2 or so

[honest parrot]

I mean you can talk about giant stealth when you see one

Or just touch on it

chances are it's going to scream anyways cause big enemy makes people scared

[sharp owl]

actual ass run

7:41 seconds

[rose nova]

i mean if its a1 i just like to see people engulfed in fear

seein a big enemy

same for b1

then for b2 maybe i explained it if we see a biog but its rare to do so

and then by c2 yes

[honest parrot]

Most of them won't remember anyways which is a bit sad
but repetition often helps them learn

[rose nova]

depends on how much they play

[naive rover]

Yeah I’m probably telling them too much as well. I’m okay, this is the objective, this is what happens, here’s what’s smart to do next.

[naive rover]

I kept telling them about the funny room in R1B2 and when we finally got towards the end with like 20 shooters and two feelers in the room they were like “is this the funny room???”

[rose nova]

im guessin u mean r1d1 kmsdkm cuz thats the two scout room

yeah if ur overly tellin they just

really wont be that amused by shit

i would just strip the "what happens, whats smart to do next" thing

just tell em "oh wow a reactor" and thats it lol

they can figure out the codes, the enemies, alarm defense, room stealth...

most players do anyways

[honest parrot]

You're trying to prevent them from retreading your mistakes
And eventually you just have to let yourself shut up and have them learn what to do

[sharp owl]

@near stag never molest a mine ever again

[near stag]

who did that

[sharp owl]

whos throwing

[near stag]

who is sucking the toes under your desk?

[sharp owl]

nahhhh

[sullen pelican]

@azure torrent are you still looking?

[azure torrent]

Sadly no

[vagrant citrus]

looking or group

[hasty bobcat]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[naive rover]

Yeah I think that’s true. I don’t want them lose the same way I did.

[sharp owl]

Guys should I allow myself to use GTFO logger to make running R1A1 less tedious or should I stick to just normal, either way I’m fine with it but I feel it will de legitimize my runs, Asking for an outside perpective / opinion

[lost lynx]

Normal

[naive rover]

I mean if it’s a mod that changes gameplay mechanics that does delegitimize your runs according to the server rules.

[sharp owl]

The server rules are long outdated by now

Modded is basically a staple of gtfo at this point

Most people run modded

[lost lynx]

theres a difference between QOL/bug fixing

and gameplay changes

[naive rover]

I’m pretty sure that’s not true but okay.

[junior latch]

the thing the logger does can be done without a mod handily

it basically is just automating the process (streamlining it) so you get access to the info

[pseudo sedge]

i would also like to point out that the logger does not modify the game at all in any way. it merely reads a file produced by the game and then produces all the output u see

[sharp owl]

I think I’ll get to 100-200 clears, see how I feel then

Too early to make concessions I suppose

[junior latch]

realistically all the logger (or checking logs) does for you is that you dont have to walk and ping key in 51 and dont have to walk and ping hsu in 52

saving about 30 seconds tops

[sharp owl]

The moral dilemma

I’ll try it tmrw

See how much time it saves me

[naive rover]

Ah I see.

[junior latch]

hence it being used for speedrunning btw (mods arent allowed for vanilla at all)

[analog flicker]

if it helps. you can see if they used logs on speedrun.com as well.

[rose nova]

speedrun tools = hacks :3

surely

[analog flicker]

though I'm sure most runs use it

[shut vapor]

Logs

[mellow hedge]

99% of runs use logs

try speeding a level for a good time without logs

and by good

i mean like

WR pace if not a bit behind

[mellow hedge]

this is why you didnt get to sweden

[shut vapor]

I get that logs are like the ender pearl trig calcs but i still don't agree with it

[mellow hedge]

try running without logs

like actually

[shut vapor]

We did at the start of the r6c1 comp but then because everyone else was we did too

[mellow hedge]

thats not the reason lol

[shut vapor]

It is tho 💀

And then we spent more time resetting than actually playing the game

[mellow hedge]

yeah, and you know if you didnt use logs, you would not have come close to winning and it would have been much more painful

[shut vapor]

And if no-one used logs, it would have been equally painful for everyone

I'd rather logs weren't used but if the competition allows it then it's only fair everyone use it because you just set yourself up for failure by ignoring it

[mellow hedge]

Ask the people who ran before logs were found out

They will all say that they prefer them being a thing

[shut vapor]

Literally just a difference of preference here. Like, if i was to run the competition (not that i will) I may ban logs from runs

[burnt flume]

logs is good for picking and choosing runs, but feels bad for generally playing the game

because you're resetting more and playing less

if you're optimising the time, you're using logs

[pseudo sedge]

unfortunately it is borderline impossible to check whether someone used logs in vanilla

[mellow hedge]

Realistically, speedrunning becomes a lot more tedious and annoying without logs

[mellow hedge]

^

[pseudo sedge]

and if u do it in modded: honestly just make it seeded

[shut vapor]

I'd be doing seeded runs

[pseudo sedge]

or if not seeded

runs where the key is alone in the zone

[mellow hedge]

and you think logs are bad lmao 💀

[pseudo sedge]

and it is weighted heavily front

so u dont have actual rng

just an rng 'light'

[shut vapor]

Having a set seed for everyone is better. It's a pure test of skill and strategy (if the level requires it)

[burnt flume]

seeded runs is basically just solo speeds nowadays

[pseudo sedge]

as long as the room aint too big or the difference between perfect and worst aint too bad it's fine

[mellow hedge]

it becomes tutorial

[shut vapor]

Have a sufficiently complicated level to accommodate for multiple strategies

[burnt flume]

one strategy will always be faster than the others

[shut vapor]

Might be Asking a bit much for vanilla but still

[burnt flume]

and once everyone has the same strategy

then it's just an execution check

you trade one poison for another really

[mellow hedge]

it becomes tutorial in the end

[burnt flume]

there will never be a good setup for a speedrun where optimisation doesn't become miserable

[brittle schooner]

your either resetting for rng or resetting for optimal execution (which would prolly still involve some degree of rng)

[shut vapor]

The execution check is still better than spamming restarts in the drop. I'd rather be fighting for milliseconds than spending half the allotted time in the elevator

[mellow hedge]

lol

[shut vapor]

Official quad opinion

[pseudo sedge]

rng can be fun

[brittle schooner]

i mean you CAN just alt tab, especially if your not host, you can literary just do other stuff while resetting

and besides, from what ive seen, it doesnt even take that long most of the time

[shut vapor]

I thought the point of speedrunning was to actually play the game, not do other things

[fringe garden]

it depends on the level

[mellow hedge]

seeded is not the way to fix that.

[pseudo sedge]

the issue with rng is that it is fun at the lower level and then gets horrible at the highest level

[fringe garden]

r1a1 host resets for 8 hours while team binges tv show in vc

[pseudo sedge]

seeded does have the issue of turning most levels into training

[shut vapor]

The watch together of mha 😔

[pseudo sedge]

very few levels where enemies and alarms are actually interesting remain good when seeded

and even then, u stop praying for correct cell but for no shadow giant on path

(r5c2 my beloved)

[brittle schooner]

i mean how many games speedruns out there your spending a considerable amount of your time resetting to rng lol, the diffrence is when you reset usually, either at the very beginning, or somewhere towards the end usually

you get to "play the game" then die to shit rng at the end that you cant control, sounds much better than resetting at the beggining till you get the rng u want

[shut vapor]

I mean most of the games I've seen speedrun have little to no rng

[mellow hedge]

and ur complaining about games that do

its just how it is

[shut vapor]

I mean it's probably why i prefer the no rng route over the rng route

And why i had more fun in the seeded speedrun competition on the modded server over the official speedrun competition on the main

[mellow hedge]

im surprised you had fun speeding modded levels

[shut vapor]

They were custom made for the comp

[wraith marsh]

why bother routing around average rng and flex play when you can just reset when its not perfect?

xd

[mellow hedge]

breakout 2 was a joke when i found out about some shit recently lmao

[shut vapor]

I ain't speeding samdown

[shut vapor]

Damn what 😔

[mellow hedge]

🤫

[shut vapor]

You got dirt on the korean team that beat me by 12 seconds?

[mellow hedge]

just stuff i find a little scummy

[fringe garden]

unseeded is better because at least when you get beat you can blame it on other team getting better rng

[wraith marsh]

they both suck but seeded you get to play the game every run

speedrunning this game is just bad

[mellow hedge]

TRUE

[shut vapor]

I think that's the valid conclusion

[mellow hedge]

every level becomes tutorial

you run for a week and the time is optimised

[wraith marsh]

there is a reason harder levels are funner to speedrun, bc its not speedrunning

you actually have to route around difficulty

[shut vapor]

How about we all play inferno instead of speedrunning

[wraith marsh]

you dont full send and reset when it doesnt work

its just playing the game fast, like vets like doing

[mellow hedge]

yeah

we have been speeding harder levels

and the harder they are the less it is about rng

and its fun

but i like both

[pseudo sedge]

honestly

[wraith marsh]

idk how you guys like speedrunning this game frosty

[pseudo sedge]

r6d2 aint one of those

key in bulkead room invalidates all the difficulty

[mellow hedge]

funny low number

[mellow hedge]

it is

we run any key any cell and most bhk

[brittle schooner]

speedrunners have the golf mindset, low number makes brain go happy

[shut vapor]

Speedrunning glaggleland 🔥

[wraith marsh]

d2 is a good level

[pseudo sedge]

the rng for us is ammo&enemy spawns

[mellow hedge]

yea

[pseudo sedge]

but it is the same rng that it is except we reset deep into level

actually

we do have one more rng

checkpoint door not desyncing

[mellow hedge]

every level will eventually turn into reset fest

[shut vapor]

Relying on p2p connections to work

[mellow hedge]

apart from a select few

[wraith marsh]

no they all will frosty

[mellow hedge]

r4e1 pretty much is one

[wraith marsh]

every single one

[pseudo sedge]

nah

[mellow hedge]

r6cx enters the chat

[wraith marsh]

r4e1 for wr already is

I should specify

they CAN

[pseudo sedge]

u literally know we hit the perfect scout zone

[wraith marsh]

they likely wont bc ppl wont run enough

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[pseudo sedge]

r6cx can turn into a reset fest

especially with the 'new' seed strat

[mellow hedge]

you could play every level not resetting and just going fast

but its like

[pseudo sedge]

where u can predict ammo locations

[mellow hedge]

it turns into reset fest eventually

[wraith marsh]

and that is why

speedrunning this game sucks

[mellow hedge]

then why speed

you can say this about every game

[wraith marsh]

thats the conclusion im coming to frosty

[mellow hedge]

every game sucks to speed

[pseudo sedge]

nah

[wraith marsh]

im realizing

we dont speedrun lmao

[pseudo sedge]

there are games where there is little rng

[mellow hedge]

damn

[pseudo sedge]

or rng is nicely integrated into the speedrun

[mellow hedge]

they will still become reset fests

[pseudo sedge]

even at the highest level

[mellow hedge]

unless its all scripted

like tutorial

[wraith marsh]

marathon runs are so nice ngl

required play around suboptimal rng

[pine root]

Chill you can’t go over

my crash outs

After I do them

[wraith marsh]

?

wdym

[brittle schooner]

which is why im surprised speedrunning has become as popular as it is

[wraith marsh]

ppl like getting better at games

ppl like learning cool advanced mechanics

[brittle schooner]

i mean you can do that WITHOUT the misery of speedrunning

[wraith marsh]

this games a bit basic as far as that goes

[pseudo sedge]

smaller number go brrrrr

[sharp owl]

Gn gtfoers

[wraith marsh]

you can, its generally really deep on that speedrunning becomes bad

rng always improves a run

but you can do mid level speeds without hope of getting WR

and still learn cool mechanics through/for it

which is what most ppl do

the general public has 0 hope of getting WR on big speed games

[brittle schooner]

hmm ig maybe my definition of "speedrun" is a bit skewed

[pine root]

Marathons are good for it tho

until those runs become lame

[pseudo sedge]

at the same time i can say the opposite can happen: u get used to speedrunning so much that you can now take any level at a pretty fast pace without even flinching. Not an actual speedrun but still quite a fast run compared to average clears

[mellow hedge]

longer runs generally have more leeway for time

[brittle schooner]

well i cant deny that doing lvls "fast" is actually (usually) fun and interesting

[wraith marsh]

which is funny for this game

bc thats what the "vet" average is

its what ppl already try to do in this game

[pine root]

It is the only thing to do

[pseudo sedge]

i straight up am looking at like r6a1 rn and i swear 100% of the time u can get a solo clear within 7:30

which i find insane compared to when i was a beginner and took like 15min only to die on the class 3

[wraith marsh]

I kinda want to make other game comparisons but I kinda hate those

[pseudo sedge]

why not make them?

some do apply quite well

[wraith marsh]

yeah I think they apply well here

I dont think I need to make them tho since no one is disagreeing

[brittle schooner]

i dont know if a marathon can really ever become lame, its theoretically possible i suppose but if we're talking about rng spanning 20+ hours the odds of getting an even close to perfect rng run are practically non-existent

[wraith marsh]

I mainly watch marathon runs for other games

or 100% runs if you dont consider those marathon

marathon run kind of a strange term

[brittle schooner]

im still not sure what qualifies as a marathon run and as a 100% run lmao

[wraith marsh]

yeah me neither tbh

bc the time varies a LOT by game

[shut vapor]

Marathon runs can get lame from sheer exhaustion

[wraith marsh]

yeah

gtfo% in this game is too much

rundown% are pretty good

[mellow hedge]

A marathon run is like MKWii 32 Track No Shortcut

[pseudo sedge]

3 hour marathon

good

24 hour marathon: fuck no

[shut vapor]

They are something you do a couple times and then maybe one more time in the future but thats it

[brittle schooner]

well from exhaustion POV yea fair enuf i didnt consider that

[wraith marsh]

some games just have good categories for everything

like hollow knight

112 is a great category

[pseudo sedge]

i also think there is an edge case where they can become lame: if there is some insane rng a few hours in. I dont know of any game speedrun where it is like that but rng can also kill marathons sometimes

[junior latch]

late rng roll into a run are the worst

[brittle schooner]

i can see that being the case if lets say your marathoning a hard mode of a game

like 1 life type of thing

5 hours in you die and lose everything

[wraith marsh]

generally routing accounts for that

[shut vapor]

Or bugs 😔

[wraith marsh]

but as per usual getting to the top end does always bring in things like that

[pseudo sedge]

honestly it just has to be something like: 2 hours in a 3 hour run, 10 minutes of timeloss on a 50/50

[shut vapor]

Imagine doing a 7 hour run and you softlock from something beyond your control

That shit would put me off

[junior latch]

gtfos biggest issue is the rng in the end of speeds

[wraith marsh]

I think it has some other issues but theyre more like

chance of preference

[junior latch]

if runs were naturally seeded in the game, or rng was massively lower it wouldnt rly be an issue for speeds

Some of that rng is what makes general gameplay good tho
(Not all of it mind you)

[wraith marsh]

the overlap of general skill progression in this game and the reduction of speedrunning this game has

[junior latch]

thats not uncommon

[brittle schooner]

resetting usually fixes that, but if game has no checkpoints, then ya thats just a rip

[junior latch]

being good at speedrunning usually means you are quite good at the game

look at smo

[brittle schooner]

usually

games that dont fall into that category tend to have funny speedruns lol

stuff where you end up skipping like 90% of the game

[mellow hedge]

granny moment

[wraith marsh]

I think theres just not much to learn for this game

[burnt flume]

wait this isn't the nipple% category i'm running

hrt joke, sorry, carry on

[wraith marsh]

ok that was a good one for once

ill give you that

[brittle schooner]

im guessing you just clip out of bounds to the ending or smthin

[shut vapor]

[junior latch]

hrt?

[burnt flume]

hormone replacement therapy

[junior latch]

ah

[lost lynx]

idk man
you have missed some scouts here and there

[junior latch]

I think in comparision between high tier vet gameplay and speedruns thats fair
its usually just a harder way to play the level (in speeds)

Theres a few exceptions, but they are so rare or minimal (or just involve prioritizing time over safety)

[quick crane]

alright guys, after months of attempts and tries, I finally beat: R1A1

[sullen pelican]

congrats

solo?

on another note. R3A3 feels very rough for an a level mission when playing with bots. i assume it gets better if youreplaying with other people because you can actually split up, but 4 minutes where you are the only oen that can possible do anything is verrry rough

[rose nova]

yeah r3a3 or just reactor missions in general just get much tougher with bots only

i tried doing it and it cost me a lot of attempts and strat improvements

along with weaponry improvements

[quick crane]

sorry I was messing around, I can beat R1A1 with my eyes closed

[rose nova]

bet

do

[quick crane]

im doing calc 3 homework rn, not gonna happen

[rose nova]

smh

[shy moat]

Calc 3 is goated

Integral calculus is making me tweak rn

Can't wait for next year

[sullen pelican]

i basically ran through the entire room wher you have to find the terminal pausing only to stealth kil the sleepers, and i only got the code with 30 secs on teh clock which just wasnt enough

[rose nova]

tbh this is where u either dont pause on stealth or start pullin rooms

like u get good at fast stealth or have a hard time

[fringe garden]

for r3a3 solo
when you get the proper pathing every code is chill except for code 6, which is very tight