gtfo-chat

[brittle schooner]

dont be afraid to take some infection, better to take a lil bit of infection than get hit, also u should try to throw some a lil before you start the alarm

[mellow hedge]

^

[serene latch]

Ahh

[mellow hedge]

Infection isn’t that much of a threat

Honestly the bad visibility is worse

[serene latch]

Thats what I hate most tbh

[brittle schooner]

also from the sounds of it are you doing both class 3 and class 5? If you are having issues u should do only one of those (class 5 has no resources but 2 cells which allows you to skip a zone but its harder), class 3 has cell and resources and later there is another zone that will get you another cell and also has resources

[serene latch]

I just do the class 3, but I bust ammo doing it which makes the rooms filled with bigs harder to deal with.

[brittle schooner]

hmm, what weapons are you using?

[serene latch]

Carbine and Scatter

[brittle schooner]

that's good, what about on bots what are they running?

[serene latch]

Hel Auto/Burst Cannon
Bullpup/HighCal Pistol
HeavySMG/Hel Rifle

[brittle schooner]

the BC is fine, but i wouldnt recommend running high cal/hel rifle those are good weapons on players but not so much on bots, i recommend running veruta instead

[honest parrot]

in general for bots you want relatively high volume of fire cause they miss, right?

[brittle schooner]

more or less, HSMG and veruta is the main combination you'd use, but BC is the main exception cause bots can actually use that weapon decently (especially vs bigs)

[serene latch]

Ahh I see

Also i found my first cell and

I cannot carry both the turbine and cell ;m;

[sand glacier]

Some tips for R1C1? It's the reactor reactivation with 8 waves. I tried it at least 8 times with 2 bots and a friend and we always die in the last waves.
We use bio scanner, Hel, Burst and Shotgun sentries. I use sniper to take down giants and those guys that shot a lot.
Sentries never run out of ammo

[brittle schooner]

you can have one of the bots carry the cell

but do note that if you are in combat they will drop it

[eternal meadow]

the one exception to the bots dropping a carry item is the fog turbine, so you coukd also have them carry that during an alarm

[serene latch]

OMG

[mellow hedge]

Burst rifle is generally better on bots

[serene latch]

SALVATION

[brittle schooner]

i recommend using 3 burst sentries, shotgun sentry is trash

[brittle schooner]

well im not a bot expert tbf but from my experience i didnt sense a big diff between the 2

[mellow hedge]

A sniper sentry is pretty good on r1c1 to deal with giants and hybrids

[eternal meadow]

make sure that if you have them carry turbine that they don't drop it during combat, because they won't pick it back up until after the alarm is over

[honest parrot]

R1C1 pasta

[brittle schooner]

they said they had a sniper to take them down which is why i didnt recommend sniper sentry

[honest parrot]

Give me a sec...

[sand glacier]

We'll try with that next time, ty!

[honest parrot]

Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"

a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand

the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.

when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.

when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids) as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).

this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is in the game
Autosentry is in the game.

if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.

[brittle schooner]

if you feel like the sniper pick isnt working u can use a sniper sentry to help deal with big guys tho

[honest parrot]

found it

[sand glacier]

The last wave comes with many giants and I'm often overwhelmed by them, in case I try using one sniper sentry, should I save it for that round?

[honest parrot]

Most of the time if you play your cards right you don't need to save much
Sniper can be left out until giants and hybrids start actually stacking up

Also depends on who's going back to do terms

[sand glacier]

Oh, that makes sense, I use the sniper and I'm the one that goes to the terminal

[brittle schooner]

Well u shouldnt drop it on the first few waves but after you can drop it normally cause lvl has enough tool, if you feel like big guys are a massive issue for you i recommend taking hel rifle or burst cannon, both are very strong weapons at dealing with bigs and unlike sniper you dont need to aim for hs (in fact with those weapons you shouldnt aim for headshots)

[sand glacier]

Is there a guide section? Where did you get this?

[honest parrot]

Pasta

Someone made one ages ago

[brittle schooner]

r1c1 is a common lvl people get stuck on so someone made smthin to try and help beginners deal with it

[serene latch]

Question. Why is Scattergun so busted?

[honest parrot]

It's just really good

To the point it just does everything

No particular reason

[serene latch]

Like fr

[honest parrot]

The only reason it seems busted is bcs sniper is really, really nerfed now

[sand glacier]

oh, thx for that. Yesterday playing I was talking with a guy that said "Yea, that mission is really hard. It took me like 4 attempts" and made me thought I was bad at the game

Anyways, ty all for the tips!

[honest parrot]

Well R1C1 is the second easiest reactor in the game
So don't get your hopes up

[sand glacier]

gl

[serene latch]

I'm also slowly coming to terms with the fact that playing with bots isn't ideal

[honest parrot]

They're like very stupid sentries

betterbots and related bot qol mods help make them bearable

But they're still going to kill you once or twice

[eternal meadow]

as someone who has gone through the first 4 and a half rundowns with vanilla bots, they are aweful lol

[brittle schooner]

The main reason is that you can kill most bosses in 2-4 bullets, something no other gun comes remotely close to doing. It's also capable of clearing out a bunch of stacked small enemies, in fact its ammo efficiency is so high that even killing 2 guys with 1 shot (something not hard to do) is worth.

[serene latch]

It feels good too. Tbh it feels cheap using it.

[brittle schooner]

i mean the gun is anything but balanced lmao

it is by far the best special in the game

i dont think anythin else even comes close rlly

[honest parrot]

wait till you know what the sawed off is

[serene latch]

I love my Micro scatter gun

[honest parrot]

It's not goated like the scatter, but my god is it good

As someone who just uses pistols most of the time they're much easier to get used to

[serene latch]

I am a big Heavy SMG fan too

Tbh most of the weapons are fun (Short rifle isn't a weapon its crumpled wrappers in the shape of a gun)

[eternal meadow]

I maintain the viewpoint that the only use short rifle has is giving it to a bot so they almost never run out of ammo and force melee, as well as to hog ammos for the actual players

[fresh heron]

its excellent for pairing with burst pistol to make lvls slightly more difficult

[serene latch]

Pf

[gaunt nacelle]

does glow sticl do anything special except light?

[brittle schooner]

it doesnt wake up enemies

thats pretty much it

[gaunt nacelle]

oh ok

[gaunt nacelle]

finally completed r1c1 alone

[iron token]

on a scale of 1-10 how much does everyone like doing r4c3

[foggy plank]

||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless. I must use my bucket true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will …||
||My bucket and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit….||
||My bucket is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my bucket clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will ….||
||Before God, I swear this creed. My bucket and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.||
||So be it, until victory and there is no enemy, but peace!!||

||https://i.imgur.com/LX0YKiG.png||

[mellow hedge]

in pubs like a 3, with people i know like a 6, speeding/doing overload before sec like a 8

[pseudo sedge]

has bbcs: 10

[mellow hedge]

@coarse marsh yo im doing your ass rn

[coarse marsh]

Bruh

[burnt flume]

WOOOO I'M RICH

<@&408548765599793173>

[daring ginkgo]

shit, i just discovered, that closest terminal on r8c1 zone 371 in fact almost not real to confirm in time on main terminal, i am doing cconsole test, i am short of 1 second

[fringe garden]

have you reviewed the solos of it

maybe they're pathing a bit differently to you?

[daring ginkgo]

actually i never looked at yt solo clears on this lvl, let me do it 👍

there are no pathing tbh on this terminal, you just jump below 2 times and run in straight line

[fringe garden]

i wish there were things in this game that could just be "there are no improvements im playing optimally"

[daring ginkgo]

damn, what a huge cheese spot for true solo https://youtu.be/s7Guza601X8?t=5489

• giant cap

[fringe garden]

incredible

[daring ginkgo]

i actually found only 2 videos of solo r8c1 and of course it was solo gods hinoki and t-nenpi xd

hinoki actually kited giants unlike t-nenpi with cheese spot

and both not went to zone 371 so i am first i guess

ngl i am kinda tempted to do t-nenpi shenanigans ( just kick bots and do this part solo )

nah, zone 371 terminal impossible, thank god i tried to test this on cconsole first before wasting time and rerolling lvl to get this particular terminal, back to square one i guess

[topaz lichen]

@hollow quarry do you want to run R3D1 with us and get the cool role 🥹

[burnt flume]

which one is the cool one

[fringe garden]

sub 10 gets to cool role

[burnt flume]

sub 10 is unholy

[fringe garden]

only the developers such as calle know the game well enough to know the strats for it

[burnt flume]

no-one is grinding for sub 10

[fringe garden]

someone will and you know it

[burnt flume]

no-one wants to invest in the misery that is rolling for RNG on an already optimised level when they could be doing other things or playing other levels

[fringe garden]

you'd be surprised

[random lava]

@fringe garden do you want to play? 🥹

[fringe garden]

i can game a bit ig

2 min ill go to the bathroom

[mellow hedge]

current run isnt really that optimised tbh

[fringe garden]

i found the someone that will

[pine root]

I think it has reach a point where the only people that would are mentally deranged

[daring ginkgo]

holy shit, i just tried this strat and it is SO much easier, the hell

[pine root]

Hey r1a1 has time save btw

[mellow hedge]

its just a lot of rng rn

[pine root]

Who is gonna run for it

[pine root]

Rng on a non consistent run

Feels awful to play

Maybe charger can be consistent but idk

I think you can just get fucked in the zone

No fault of any one

[mellow hedge]

i think it can somewhat

[burnt flume]

It's gonna be hard to save a lot of time by running cleaner lines or being better on reaching scans no?

[mellow hedge]

uhhhh you can save time full sending a bit more

but mostly scans

[fleet kettle]

Don't think anyone will want to run sub10 because of scans, they're the most ass rng on this level.

[mellow hedge]

ive seen asser

[fleet kettle]

"on this level"

[mellow hedge]

the class 5 is pretty bad tho

but at least scans dont matter a huge amount for sub 11

[fleet kettle]

They do somewhat if you get thrown around on class 6 and class 5 from one side of room to other all the time

[mellow hedge]

na

scans dont stop you from getting sub 11

[hollow quarry]

Would’ve been awesome, can’t play on weekends though

[mellow hedge]

next time next time

[pine root]

What is stopping my idol calle from playing on the weekends

[mellow hedge]

i have a feeling calle doesnt play outside of work

[rose nova]

calle only makes bread outside of work, secretly owning a bakery

[lost lynx]

Calle is busy doing heists irl for DoW

[unreal crystal]

I think they do ngl

I think class 5 can just fuck you

[burnt flume]

they can definitely gate you

average rng is likely passable

[hasty bobcat]

imagine getting a close scan

instead of a far one

[burnt flume]

it's always close scan, as in close to other side of the room scan

[hasty bobcat]

yes !!

[mellow hedge]

I think I meant more that scan rng isn’t stopping you from getting a sub 11

[real monolith]

Just cheat

😵‍💫

[junior latch]

they definetly can

[mellow hedge]

You can get fucked with horrible rng and it’s just like you can’t get it

LET ME FINISH

[hasty bobcat]

no

[real monolith]

No you're just wrong

[junior latch]

but "if" you play perfectly youd need absolutely abyssmal scan rng

[unreal crystal]

I started looking at time

On door open on class 5

Worst mistake

[mellow hedge]

You got carried

[hasty bobcat]

okay buddy

[unreal crystal]

Seeing it get opened at 6;50

And then sometimes 7:40

[mellow hedge]

Gulp

[unreal crystal]

Tilted me so hard

[mellow hedge]

I don’t think I ever looked at time in the runs

[hasty bobcat]

u want it at 7 usually for sub 11

[junior latch]

1st scan alone can have a 20 second variance

[hasty bobcat]

maybe a bit slower

[mellow hedge]

Wha

[hasty bobcat]

what

7:10 still works

[junior latch]

for opening warden door thats roughly correct frosty
you need to be through about 8 minutes in

[hasty bobcat]

7 gives a bit more space

yeah u want to be in chargers scan at like 8

[junior latch]

it kinda depends on what speed you go through for charger zone

[hasty bobcat]

^

[pine root]

Jaja internet allows first scan to have 5 mins of var

[mellow hedge]

I mean I would just think you full send

[hasty bobcat]

charger zone is like 40 to a minute

[pine root]

Depends there is probs an optimal solution for getting the most runs through charger

On a WR pace

[hasty bobcat]

45 prolly would be more accurate

isn't it like just

u full send right twice

[junior latch]

30 seconds is the aim

(from door open to pull)

[hasty bobcat]

nah i meant from door pull to door pull

[mellow hedge]

Yeah prob

[hasty bobcat]

the run through is around 30 seconds prob ye

[mellow hedge]

Just know where the enemies are

I might block this chat

[unreal crystal]

we might try full clearing first

While someone pulls half of 2nd and mines

If scans aren’t too bad you might still be able to sub 11 it

[hasty bobcat]

so it's like more consistent?

[junior latch]

I feel like full send through 1st is pretty stable no?

then just use the time to safely clear 2nd and foam/mine behind?

[burnt flume]

now i wonder, if you're going for the full clear on first room how stupid is it to bring a burst cannon (in place of either hcp/hel gun or scatter)

BC probably doesn't offer that much more

[modern coral]

Full killing 2nd is not stable tbh

[junior latch]

ya that was my worry too

[mellow hedge]

You kinda just gotta pray for not fucked path

If you get on scan ur pretty chilling

5 hybrids on end stairs

Lasering you down

[modern coral]

Is a good pattern, ngl

Charger spam on stairs is much worse

[mellow hedge]

Na id win

[sharp gyro]

Hey everyone, can someone help me and my friends with R2D2? We've been stuck on this level for 8 hours now. Thanks!

[blissful dome]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sharp gyro]

I have a group, just need some advice

[blissful dome]

what are you struggling on

[sharp gyro]

5 scout room and fog room

[rose nova]

tbh those two are just banking a lot on ur knowledge to one, kill scouts well, and two do stealth either fast or have enough resources to go by pullin

[daring egret]

Rigged

[rose nova]

which u can do since that zone does have resources if im not wrong, u just need the terminal to search for them

[rose nova]

me when the poker hand i hand suddenly vanishes turning into dust at the casino

[daring egret]

Imagine not sucking in gtfo

[hasty bobcat]

fr

[shut vapor]

gg

[manic jackal]

For the no flashlight achievement, do you have to have no teamate using flashlight or is it just a meme?

[rose nova]

everyone in the team needs to not use their flashlight

that means with bots u cannot do it

[manic jackal]

Got it, was doing it with a friend and he used it

That explains it

[rose nova]

yeah the best way to get that is just

everyone rebinding the key

[honest parrot]

Yeah
Else that one friend you have that constantly taps the flashlight key during drop will kill your hopes and dreams

[manic jackal]

do glowstick count as flashlights?

Do you need a full team for it?

[lost lynx]

No

A glowstick is a glowstick

A flahslight is a flahslight

[real monolith]

Do bullet tracers count

[honest parrot]

Do our bullets even have tracers

[real monolith]

Have you played this game or are you one of the chinese bots

[wraith marsh]

what did they mean by this

[pine root]

LOL

the chinese AI have invaded the gtfo sever

we are all but lost

[pine root]

no

LOL

[real monolith]

Oh ok just checking

You know just to be safe 🙂

[honest parrot]

To be fair with my desync I usually don't see the bullets come out

I just see things die

[pine root]

🇨🇳

[maiden tinsel]

I got stuck in a softlock in r3b1

I cant send screenshots

[pine root]

what you do

how you get soft locked

[maiden tinsel]

there's a little shelf

and I climbed in

[pine root]

LOL

[maiden tinsel]

it's impossible to get out

[lost lynx]

#gtfo-media exists

[maiden tinsel]

lmfao

[pine root]

post it in media

please

[maiden tinsel]

I did

[pine root]

LOL

[lost lynx]

Get fucked

[pine root]

you gotta reset

[maiden tinsel]

how do you reset

I tried rejoining

[pine root]

reset your postion

you cant in r3b1

you could with unity explorer if you have mods

[maiden tinsel]

oh i dont

[pine root]

well when we say reset we mean replay the level

[maiden tinsel]

oh

damn

i thought there might be a debug

my friend said I am the reason game devs hate the playerbase lol

[pine root]

na it is just unfo

[lost lynx]

Believe me, devs love seeing stuff like that

[maiden tinsel]

btw is precision rifle good

is it rlly the most memed weapon

[lost lynx]

Yup

[maiden tinsel]

i love that shit

[lost lynx]

No?

That would probably be scattergun

[maiden tinsel]

why is the scattergun memes

instant giant death

[lost lynx]

You have a problem? Scattergun it

[maiden tinsel]

"big guy"

[pine root]

PR used to be muc funnier

it used to be one of the weaker guns that got nerfed for no reasons

[maiden tinsel]

from what i heard pr used to be terrible and it got several buffs before it was considered even mid tier

bc there was a weapon tier list and pr was at the bottom each time

[pine root]

na pr when it got released was awful in the meta

then it got nerfed

from 12-8 bullets

with the longest reload

[maiden tinsel]

it should be good on the team for the fact alone that it can one shot scouts without a wave

[pine root]

LOL

[lost lynx]

A lot of guns can do that....

[maiden tinsel]

i am the only one in the team that can melee scouts lol

[lost lynx]

a lot

[maiden tinsel]

yeah but also heat censor

heat censor is goated dude

sensor*?

[lost lynx]

Its not a sensor

[maiden tinsel]

heat scope

whatever

[lost lynx]

Is a thermal scope

:(

[maiden tinsel]

my friends just made me leave and rejoin during extraction lmao

[pine root]

yeah

probs the best idea

[pine root]

did you know the thermal scope

[honest parrot]

As long as they can get to extraction

[pine root]

cant see projectiles

[maiden tinsel]

dude I dont care

[lost lynx]

And they can't see farts

[maiden tinsel]

i use it in dark rooms to not use the flashlight

[lost lynx]

Why not?

Flahslight is useful

[maiden tinsel]

so i dont alert them

its also helpful in the fog

[lost lynx]

Enemies take a long while to be awaken by the flahslight

Lol

[naive rover]

Just don't hold the flashlight on them for 3 straight seconds.

[maiden tinsel]

well I am also with a team of 3 guys that might fuck up and walk while they're beating

[lost lynx]

Now thats skill issue

Jk

[naive rover]

Tell them to go one at a time lol

Can't all walk at once

[maiden tinsel]

my friends are retar

[compact folio]

I feel you on that one

[maiden tinsel]

I have one friend that does all the computer stuff (I would be cooked without her), I’m the sniper with the dmr that gets headshots and designated scout killer

And the other two are just constantly screwing around

[compact folio]

I'm the guy that tells people what to do because they don't look at the objective

And one of my friends doesn't use game audio 💀

[honest parrot]

You mean he's deaf or something else?

[compact folio]

No. He just has game audio on 0 so he can hear us talk better

[honest parrot]

Oh
well that's going to bite him in the ass once he goes to r6

[compact folio]

(He has since put it up to 20% or something after we found out)

[compact folio]

He has agroed a lot of rooms already because of it

[honest parrot]

The quad cscout room

[compact folio]

Ooh. Yeah, we'll probably tell him to not go into that room for a bit

[narrow oxide]

Hey, I don't have the game yet but I've been considering it for a bit. How easy is it to find a group to play with and how punishing is it for new players?

[compact folio]

Not super hard to find people to play with in the looking for groups chat, though the best experience is probably with 3 other friends

[lost lynx]

Easy to find people in LFG
But the game can be extremely hard for new players

Missions going from 30mins to 1 or 2 hours as a new player

No checkpoints no second chances

[compact folio]

Fail a1 a couple of times and you'll get it somewhat

[lost lynx]

This game doesnt hold back in terms of difficulty

[compact folio]

Don't just do rundown 1, do a missions across the rundowns before graduating to b missions

[lost lynx]

Yeah no

Thats not the best advice in my opinion

I would recommend finishing rundown 1 before anything else

[compact folio]

[lost lynx]

Simplest and easiest rundown

Also some A tiers can be "hard"

cough cough R4, R5

[maiden tinsel]

I think this is one of those games with an insanely high skill cieling for no reason

like youll think ur getting the hang of it and then just get fucking humbled

[lost lynx]

YEAH

and it just gets worse and worse

I love it personally

[maiden tinsel]

rundown 2 literally took us 3 months to finish and we didnt even do the optional missions lol

r3 is so easy

[narrow oxide]

I had never watched any gameplay of the game before and I sat down for 2.5 hours watching a documentary of sorts of someone beating R8E2 (I'm assuming you guys will know what that means) and I was heavily, heavily intrigued

[lost lynx]

Spiff video

One thing

[compact folio]

It's fun

[proper iron]

mark

[narrow oxide]

yeah that guy

[lost lynx]

The game isnt as hard as Spiff made it seem

He just kinda sucked at the game for most of the time

[narrow oxide]

lol okay

[maiden tinsel]

anyone have advice for r3a3

[narrow oxide]

game seemed to have a level of depth that most players wouldn't even consider

[maiden tinsel]

i hate reactor startup

[narrow oxide]

which I love about games lol

[hasty bobcat]

shoot bullets

[maiden tinsel]

we just get immediatly overwhelmed on wave 5, no matter what builds we try

[lost lynx]

Don't let your HP drop to 0

[lost lynx]

Try Hel weapons

They make the game easy

[mellow hedge]

@narrow oxide saw that

[maiden tinsel]

I am running dmr and buckland

[mellow hedge]

what tools?

[narrow oxide]

I don't have privilege's : (

[mellow hedge]

is ur whole team runnin

[maiden tinsel]

sniper, burst, burst, biotracker

[lost lynx]

Good loadout

[mellow hedge]

thats pretty good

[hasty bobcat]

bring one pen gun

[mellow hedge]

defending on one of the bridges is good

if you arent already

[lost lynx]

Hel rifle or hel gun would be a good choice

They will help a lot

[maiden tinsel]

bridges?

this aint reconnect

[mellow hedge]

in the like connector room

there are bridges either side

[maiden tinsel]

it has a giant circular room in the middle with 2 doors that open after each wave and then additional doors

[maiden tinsel]

ohhh yeah

in the hallway room

[lost lynx]

Yeah

Hold in one of the sides

[proper iron]

2 sides briges

[lost lynx]

Enemies Will funnel there

One pen gun and then it's ez game

[compact folio]

Quick question, would it be better to use guns that I like the feel of and know I can do solid work with over using the (idk how to say this) "reccomended" weapons that I generally don't like the feel of?

[pine root]

yea

[lost lynx]

use the ones you can do solid work with

[pine root]

if you cant use the s tiers guns you wont get the value

[compact folio]

That's what I thought

[lost lynx]

Use whatever You are mostly comfortable with

[maiden tinsel]

I mean for me I usually hate weapons until I use them long enough

[worn kiln]

except machinegun

/s

[lost lynx]

This is going to make someone mad i can already tell

[maiden tinsel]

so if you know a weapon is objectively better and dont take the time to adjust youre just choosing to be suboptimal

[lost lynx]

Soy, Even with that /s i cant take you seriously

Sorry mate

[pine root]

WHY AM I in this photo

[compact folio]

Sweet I'm suboptimal, I have achieved my dream

[worn kiln]

wait did you think my /s was a /serious?

[lost lynx]

Idk

[worn kiln]

camera installed in your house to make sure you dont cheat in speedruns

[lost lynx]

I still dont knwo what /s means

[worn kiln]

when i use it, it means sarcasm

[lost lynx]

Or whatever other /* mean

[pine root]

but there are caps to how much you can do with some gunsd

compared to other

MG cant full kill a charger surge by itself

hel rilfe can

[lost lynx]

Ooooooh

[worn kiln]

yeah

[compact folio]

Teammates

[worn kiln]

useful for when it doesnt come across in the message itself

[compact folio]

They can use the hel stuff

[pine root]

yup

[worn kiln]

or i say sommething obviously stupid but i dont trust people to realise

[lost lynx]

I often see people in the internet use /s to actually mean something serious

Unless i am thinking about it wrong

I hate English

[pine root]

/srs is

srs

/s is sarcastic

[worn kiln]

Some people do use /s to be serious

[pine root]

insane

[worn kiln]

And then use /j instead

[pine root]

tone indicators

need indicators

[worn kiln]

Fr

[pine root]

we have some how made them

useless

CRAzy

[worn kiln]

Gonna start following up every message with “I am being sarcastic” just in case

[lost lynx]

Unfortunately
Some people in here do need it to understand a joke

[worn kiln]

Yeah

Especially for me since I’m an admin and some people think that means I never make jokes

[lost lynx]

Admins have sense of humor?

No way

[worn kiln]

It’s debatable

[maiden tinsel]

Ok so we got a strange softlock where I accidentally alerted a scout during a reactor startup and the wave didn’t spawn

And for the rest of the mission no enemies spawned so we just breezed through the “waves”

Some of the sleepers spawned but their ai was broken

So we make it to extraction and not even the entity for the extraction point Spawned lmao

[proper iron]

if scout is still stay invincible. its a scout scream bug

[maiden tinsel]

Yeah that’s what happened

[proper iron]

either c-foam or reset

[maiden tinsel]

what does c foam do

[proper iron]

reinforce weakdoor, freeze sleepers

[maiden tinsel]

yeah but we couldnt extract

that doesnt solve anything

[proper iron]

it change scouts state from invincible back to normal

[maiden tinsel]

oh I see

[maiden tinsel]

I know what c foam does usually just didnt get how it helps the scout situation

[proper iron]

but you need to full foam it which take 4 blobs

[maiden tinsel]

when does the damn infection fog go away

[proper iron]

? more context?

[maiden tinsel]

like in the levels

i thought it was the r2 gimmick

[proper iron]

it have in r2 all the way to r8 some map you can lower it some map you can filter it make it to normal fog and some map you cannot do anything with it

[maiden tinsel]

bruh

im uninstalling

[proper iron]

lol

[lost lynx]

Oh boy

They are going to be in every rundown from now on

[compact folio]

Fog best mechanic, who would want less

[lost lynx]

Wait until you see the extra spicy fog

[maiden tinsel]

:(

[proper iron]

not even thermal can see 😎

THICC

[maiden tinsel]

I am not gonna sugarcoat it, the fog mechanic sucks ass and idc that it makes me sound like a bitch lol

I hate fog missions so damn much

[lost lynx]

Skill issue

[maiden tinsel]

nothing fun about not being able to see 2 ft in front of me

[lost lynx]

Usually the game gives You something to deal with the fog

[compact folio]

Just clear em once and never deal with them again

[lost lynx]

Turbines or repellers or both

[honest parrot]

It makes bio very important in your kits

[lost lynx]

Fuck Bio
Pull every room

[honest parrot]

Are you even at the stage where the fog is literally so bad you can't see even your faqing feet

[lost lynx]

He is at R3B2

A really funny level

With a really funny surprise

[honest parrot]

Oh that level
It's not that bad
The infection is more annoying than the fog

[honest parrot]

Especially the spitter above the terminal

Very fun

Can't even fog dive and do term
You have to have someone babysit you

[fossil horizon]

Just enjoy purple fog and get exploded while carrying corrupted data sphere that drains your hp

[honest parrot]

Is that something that actually happens in modded

[fossil horizon]

Yes

[wraith stratus]

@mellow plume @modern coral sorry team had technical difficulties last night

Unforch

[modern coral]

ALl g

[wraith stratus]

Was fun running tho

If we have time today, could

[mellow plume]

npnp we were close

[hasty bobcat]

hani in gtfo chat is crazy

[mellow plume]

im just a pub

[honest parrot]

if you're a pub I don't know what I am

[silver spade]

You fucking suck, man

disgusting pub

[mellow plume]

Can you teach me how to play the game?

[fresh heron]

that comma saving everything

[silver spade]

Dunno if I have time 4 u tbh

Could maybe do 1 R1A1

and show u the ropes

[wraith marsh]

sam wants to run r3d1

[silver spade]

No I don't

[wraith marsh]

hes just too shy to say it

[mellow plume]

I can't shoot so we always play with 3x sentries and 1x bio

[fringe garden]

there's 2 types of people those who want to run r3d1 and those in denial

[silver spade]

⛄

[mellow plume]

Wait are u the creator of samdown?

[silver spade]

No, that would be Gabe.

[mellow plume]

I heard alot of people complain about boss kill can we buff it?

[silver spade]

🤐

[wraith marsh]

delete auto cannon and bring back BC

[unreal crystal]

he reacted with yes

is it gonna happen

[mellow plume]

Guys we did it

[hasty bobcat]

that's more messages from hani in this chat i've seen compared to last year lmao

[mellow plume]

Time to delete my messages

[hasty bobcat]

yes !!

no one will know about boss kill buff

[mellow plume]

I gotta show off my red name somehow

[hasty bobcat]

i knew it's a red name disease

[fringe garden]

wdym we already have bosskill we have auto cannon

[hasty bobcat]

jail

[brittle schooner]

smh

[silent shuttle]

i heard u r from malaysia right

[mellow hedge]

LMAO

[sharp owl]

Get the gtfo out

Hello gtfo fans

[daring ginkgo]

I AM FREE, R8C1 FUCK YOU! #gtfo-media message

[honest parrot]

grats

Did you leave secondary for last?

[daring ginkgo]

no

[honest parrot]

nice

[slender flare]

Yes we played R6C1 before this

I never had this happen

@mellow hedge

[mellow hedge]

Very weird bug

Did you complete it or die on the t scan_

[slender flare]

yes, we actually almost finished it so there should be more of the map

[slender flare]

T scan, i crashed

[mellow hedge]

ah

[slender flare]

and since i was the host we crashed

so maybe because of it

[mellow hedge]

no the map checks out

I guess its a crashing issue

[slender flare]

seems like it! I crashed a few times already but never had this happen

[mellow hedge]

what happened after you crashed?

[slender flare]

I changed connections and we decided to go on R6C2 for the logs instead

and we had like 2000 years long loading

[mellow hedge]

thats so strange

some really weird connection/crashing bug

[slender flare]

Yeah i thought it was because i changed connections

there were also like NO enemies in R6C2

so that's also weird

I never saw this happen

[marble flare]

ok low key dumb question but what does it mean old rundowns in the rules?

[graceful geode]

Just ignore that rule

It's faster that way than to explain what it means and mostly what it meant

[marble flare]

kk lmao

[graceful geode]

But long story short: the game had rotating content, now it doesn't anymore

[marble flare]

ok thanks

[graceful geode]

The rule comes from when people could (still can) download previous versions of the game that had the previously accessible content

Now all of those content is "revised" as Alt rundowns in the game, so it doesn't matter

[brittle schooner]

the current rundowns (1-6 specifically) are ALT versions that are different than the original r1-r6 (both lore wise and gameplay wise, the difference isnt massive but it is notable)

[lost lynx]

Content not ingame = big no no

[fossil horizon]

Guys content is still in game, like drones, glue pistol

We just didn't deserve it

[rose nova]

the adhd meme is hittin, me editin the wiki for the hel rifle, sees hcp wiki and edits, sees ALT r1 wiki and edits

someone help me

[fossil horizon]

Just don't edit and embrace chill

[rose nova]

no >:[

how can i let these dummy decisions slip

/j

[fossil horizon]

You just do it

Become me

And rest in eternal slumber

[rose nova]

never

[daring ginkgo]

r8d1 first try, cool lvl, funny red zones

[rose nova]

r8d1 my beloved :D

is an underrated level in r8 in my opinion

now for the last level right

[daring ginkgo]

yeah

and i will clear game wink wink

[rose nova]

wink wink

i knew u knew but i refused to accept it KMDSKM

[brittle schooner]

nice

next lvl shouldnt be an issue, the one after tho... will be hell with bots xd

[daring ginkgo]

actually i just got my ass kicked xd

intense start on r8e1 holy

[stark idol]

Baby E-level

[brittle schooner]

well i didnt say it would be completely free :D

[rose nova]

teehee :3

man the wiki fucking hates the ALT:// thing of alt rundowns

[honest parrot]

what do you mean

[[ALT://R3D1]]

[crude verge]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/ALT://R3D1

[honest parrot]

It works fine

[rose nova]

buddy thats the wiki bot

i said the wiki ksmdkm

like embedding the alt links so they redirect to their pages is difficult

they bug out

[honest parrot]

What's that?

[rose nova]

u kno in the wiki how u read idk the hel rifles page and click "ALT://Rundown 3.0" to go to the page of r3

[honest parrot]

yeah?

[worthy flicker]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/WEapons

My favorite page on the GTFO wiki

[honest parrot]

why

does that exist

[worthy flicker]

I asked myself the same exact thing the first time i saw it

[rose nova]

no one eliminates unused pages

[lost lynx]

WEapons goes hard

[rose nova]

all the pages up for elimination have been there for like ages

[lost lynx]

No one really cares about the wiki that much anymore

[rose nova]

me :[ me editing the wiki rn

[worthy flicker]

The wiki is a mess tbh

Like the sawn off being an image on iirc every single weapons page

[lost lynx]

Its mostly fine but sometimes there is weird stuff in there

Lol

[honest parrot]

lol

[rose nova]

huh wdym

[worthy flicker]

Did it finally get changed?

I checked a week ago or so and the side profile of it was still on every weapon

[rose nova]

uh
i dont see sawed off images in any, other weapon

[worthy flicker]

Neat, cool

Wonder when that changed

[rose nova]

i never saw it so

no idea

[lost lynx]

"the only weapons which do not have friendly fire are melee weapons, turrets"

Lol

[rose nova]

tell me where that is pls

[lost lynx]

"How to play"

On the Basic Mechanics topic

It then says You can be shot in the crossfire

But its still funny to read for some reason

why add the "turrets don't have friendly fire"

[rose nova]

mightve been in the times sentries bugged and didnt deal ff? i think that was a thing

where clients couldnt recieve ff by turrets

oh its just a weird sentence

its supposed to be separated

"friendly fire are melee weapons, turrets and mines dont target players"

that coma should be a point

[lost lynx]

Also the Aparel page hasnt been updated properly

"is unknown whether or not the cosmetic pool will be increased in size for Rundown 8.0."

[worthy flicker]

I think I'd parse it as "melee weapons do not cause friendly fire, and while mines and turrets will not target the player they are capable of damaging the player." Or something

[rose nova]

"Friendly fire is always on in GTFO, the only weapons which do not have friendly fire are melee weapons. Turrets and mines will not target players, however, they can still damage a player if they hit one."

[slender flare]

you could also phrase it as "Meele weapons do not cause friendly fire, however if a mine blows up it could harm a player, same with sentries if they target a sleeper close to a player"

[rose nova]

how does that sound

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, I like this.

[slender flare]

that soubnds the best

[rose nova]

what would one call the mix of resources and consumables

like how do u express ur referring to both

cuz the page for both its called "Consumables" and h

[lost lynx]

Usable items?

[rose nova]

mh

maybe another name for the consumables then?

[slender flare]

Not really

[sacred briar]

consumables are consumables

[slender flare]

i think it does fit

[sacred briar]

resources packs are resources

[rose nova]

the issue is i gotta separate them to explain how resources are constant per mission

"Consumables (divided into Resource packs and consumables) "

sounds dum

[lost lynx]

Items

Items would be the right word

[slender flare]

i mean you could also just write that consumables refer to consumables, and resoursce packs are rescourse packs (not gonna lie i can't spell that word)

i can't think of a name that would fit both

[sacred briar]

-# if you wanted to go the extra mile you could write out the potential consumable items that can spawn in each zone

[rose nova]

i mean they are gonna embed to their respective sections anyway

mh

[slender flare]

torture

[lost lynx]

"Consumables (divided into resources and items)"

[rose nova]

im not about to list the entire 82 levels

[slender flare]

i'd say other way around would be better

[rose nova]

i just wanna explain res are consistent and consumables are not

[lost lynx]

Do it for the funnies

[slender flare]

Items (divided into rescourses and consumables) sounds better

[rose nova]

yeah i might go for this

[lost lynx]

Yeah that sounds good

[analog flicker]

LRF is definitely a consumable

[slender flare]

you could say:
"Rescourses spawn in each level are meant to replenish player's stats/things, while consumables are (usually) a one time use item that grants a player an advantage"

[lost lynx]

Yes
You can eat it

[slender flare]

and that "consumables vary each level and different types can be found on different levels, while rescourses stay consisent throught the game"

[rose nova]

i mean consumables have already a wiki page i dont need to define them

[slender flare]

oh yeah

oops

[slender flare]

i suppose this might be the best

[analog flicker]

not if I edit the page to be an ICBM

:)

[rose nova]

not if i pat u to death

[analog flicker]

slendi

why are you a fish now

[lost lynx]

Solace, are you in love?

🤔

[rose nova]

some mod made me

soy probs

[lost lynx]

Admin*

[rose nova]

that

[slender flare]

or alternatievely(i can't spell today)
"While rescourses are consistent in the levels, consumables tend to change level to level, and not all of them can be found on the same level"
not sure

[rose nova]

"All these items- ergo their containers- can be randomly placed with each playthrough, however, their amounts are consistent, excepting consumables which can vary in number."

shotgun sentry targets bodies right

[slender flare]

Yes

from what i saw for 2 seconds month ago

actually wait let me test it to make sure

[rose nova]

thank u

[slender flare]

I never used it i only saw my friend use it because he likes it but he is asleep rn

[rose nova]

i never use it either

and i remember a big criticism was that it aimed at heads

but idk if it got changed

[lost lynx]

I'm pretty sure it does aim to the head

[slender flare]

let me see

[lost lynx]

Dont all sentries aim to the head except hel auto?

[honest parrot]

chill or jish might know

Want to ask them?
Better safe than sorry

[slender flare]

hel auto aims to the body yes

[old lynx]

why is shotgun sentry bad?

[honest parrot]

Falloff and accuracy

[lost lynx]

Shit damage
Really fast rate of fire (shoots dead bodies)
Shit range

You waste A LOT of tool with shotgun sentry for no real value

[honest parrot]

Unlike hel auto you can't really cc with it

[slender flare]

Yes

[old lynx]

oh okay

[slender flare]

it's horrible overall

[honest parrot]

And you don't kill very well either

[lost lynx]

At least auto sentry has back damage

[old lynx]

i just used it in r1a1 i thought it was cooking

[worthy flicker]

And it stinks, with all the aforementioned reasons

[lost lynx]

Everything works in A levels

[slender flare]

okay so the sentry is aiming at heads

[honest parrot]

Most things work in a level

[slender flare]

the shotgun one

[slender flare]

yeah you can even also use no guns and still win

[lost lynx]

Yeah i always see them aiming to the head except hel auto as i said

[slender flare]

there's an achievemnt for that

[slender flare]

hel auto just goes pew pew

Hel auto my beloved

[rose nova]

its ok, startin out u obvs dont know how it is u just see it kills

it would be bad if u used it like 20 30 hours in still

[lost lynx]

R4E1
shotgun sentry vs Tank

[slender flare]

overtime you will learn what's better and worse

[slender flare]

this is something my friend would do

[rose nova]

and u can always ask or read wiki [with spoilers warnings]

[slender flare]

I once jumped into an R4C2 lobby he was playing in and i saw 3 shotgun sentries and a bio

[old lynx]

thank u thank u!!

[lost lynx]

Rip tool

[old lynx]

one more question is slug shotgun good

[lost lynx]

Not really

[slender flare]

as a hel auto sentry user yes

[honest parrot]

Ammo problem

[slender flare]

it's not THAT horrible there are just better alternatives

[old lynx]

ohhh

[honest parrot]

That's pretty severe
(Assuming human accuracy)

[lost lynx]

It has decent-ish range but the fall off and damage are a big problem

[old lynx]

i thought it slaps cuz it one shots stuff

[honest parrot]

Think choke mod in main

[slender flare]

if you want a nice shotgun you can use Sawed off

[lost lynx]

Sawed off does too

And it's way better

[urban oxide]

hmm we were using sawed off and shooting heads are good no?

[slender flare]

If you want to one shot stuff go sawed off

[urban oxide]

they're both shotguns kinda

[old lynx]

okay thank you!!

[slender flare]

i mean shooting heads is good in this game ofc

[honest parrot]

Sawed off melts giants up close in 4
but you need to understand that falloff in the game is a factor

[slender flare]

but with sawed off you can aim for the body too

[rose nova]

me when range :[

[slender flare]

2 if it's from behind

[lost lynx]

Honestly
Slug ammo economy isnt that bad

[compact folio]

Choke mod is fun

[honest parrot]

Don't shoot out of range else you fold like a potato

[rose nova]

it be :]

[honest parrot]

Not really assuming you have good aim

If you miss though it faqing hurts

[slender flare]

Yes.

I know from expirience

Running slug and chokemod

mmm

[rose nova]

not even good aim its ammo its about 1 or so bullets off sawed off

[lost lynx]

You can one shot strikers so thats cool

[honest parrot]

Yeah but if you're on R6 you can't exactly sawed off everything there

Slug choke's really good if you're swatting flies

[slender flare]

also a thing for sawed off, you have to be really close to an enemy to use it's full potential

[slender flare]

3/4 of the weapons

[old lynx]

hey that's my loadout !!

[rose nova]

:O

[lost lynx]

Range is a lot more forgiving with sawed off

[slender flare]

yeah it is

[slender flare]

oh dang that brings me back to my early days

Hel shotgun scatter everywhere

[old lynx]

what is scatter

[slender flare]

Scattergun

[lost lynx]

Special gun

[rose nova]

scattergun

[lost lynx]

The Best gun in the whole game

[rose nova]

me when

[slender flare]

Special gun

[lost lynx]

Delete button

[slender flare]

no it's shelling nano /j

[lost lynx]

Everything dies including your team

[slender flare]

i do that with sawed off

i remember in R2D2 i shot two people to death on wave 8 and we lost 💀

[old lynx]

woah is it that good?

[slender flare]

i never touched R2D2 again

[compact folio]

I love joining lobbies and seeing 50% scatter rate

[slender flare]

it's a walking delete button

deletes waves, bosses

[lost lynx]

Me about to scattergun a solo shooter

[slender flare]

it's a boss killer weapon overall

[rose nova]

no spoils

[slender flare]

i remember when once someone missed a scout at point blank range with scatter

[rose nova]

thats so me

[slender flare]

I forgot sorry

[lost lynx]

ACTUALLY it's mini boss and bosses

Theres only 2 bosses in this game

[slender flare]

i once had a person who missed a standing scout with hel rifle

[rose nova]

i say as pablo immediately goes on

[slender flare]

it was beautiful

[old lynx]

what's a boss

i'm only on r1b2

[slender flare]

R4C1

[lost lynx]

a boss

[slender flare]

onwards

[lost lynx]

Big enemy

[slender flare]

you will meet them way later

[lost lynx]

Big bad enemy

[urban oxide]

there's bosses in this game???

[slender flare]

yes

[rose nova]

[urban oxide]

are the giants not a boss

[lost lynx]

Dont spoil

[slender flare]

2 bosses and 3 mini bosses

[slender flare]

nope

[lost lynx]

Those are just enemies

[old lynx]

damn

[lost lynx]

Youll see the mini-bosses and bosses later on

[slender flare]

wait actually does ||R7E1 friend count as a boss or a mini boss||

[lost lynx]

mini

[sacred briar]

he is the best of friends

[slender flare]

so bosses are ||R8D2 and R6D1 stuff||

right

mini are the rest

[rose nova]

ermm i woudlnt agree

[lost lynx]

Spoiler Tag it
But yes

[sacred briar]

by technicality, the actual enemy boss role doesn't work without mods

[rose nova]

says as i ask to not spoil

lmao

[lost lynx]

Yeah honestly im debating about that

[slender flare]

i'm sorry i keep forgetting 😭

[lost lynx]

But it's not that big of a problem either

Just annoying

You dont fight it directly too

[slender flare]

it's just a silly friend

your bestie

your dad coming back with the milk

[lost lynx]

He is my partner

We go to dates together

[slender flare]

wait he is cheating on me? i knew i should've went with the ||tank||

[rose nova]

annoyance is not a qualification

[slender flare]

NOT THE EMOJIS

[lost lynx]

||I would consider it a boss if he was similar to the Hunter from Dead Space||

[rose nova]

why is that spoilered

is it in case i havent played dead space

[lost lynx]

Maybe

You have right?

[slender flare]

||i'd say he is more like a special enemy rather than a boss, or a special case boss||

[junior latch]

its the worst of all main weapons

[rose nova]

i was about to throw hands but realized u talkin ammo

i got so scared

[slender flare]

even the burst pistol is better?

oh wait the eceonomy

my bad 🥹

[modern coral]

On a spreadsheet, yeah.

[rose nova]

u did the same thing as me :D

[junior latch]

even realistically a lot of guns hit more than 7,5 kills

[slender flare]

big brains think the same

[modern coral]

But in practice, it's going to outperform a lot of autos just by virtue of being a one-tapper

[junior latch]

its just that half of them are full autos that are still ass

[upper loom]

real

[lost lynx]

Noooo wdym worst
You can't talk bad about my favorite weapon

I hate You

[rose nova]

how bout i mod the ar to oneshot per bullet

[daring ginkgo]

hel pp*

[slender flare]

honestly i feel that, all of the weapons i love are considered bad

[upper loom]

might as well make pdw a one shot too then

[lost lynx]

Dont take what i just said seriously

[rose nova]

in my neverexistent rundown, pdw is an animal with huge dmg but a recoil that kicks like a bitch

[upper loom]

you can play the base game with whatever weapons you enjoy and are good with

[slender flare]

mod the burst pistol. silence the haters

[upper loom]

do not worry about

elitist shmucks#

[slender flare]

yeah that's exactly what i do

[upper loom]

that scream at you to run hel rifle for every lvl bc its optimal

[slender flare]

i feel the best with like 3-4 weapons only

[daring ginkgo]

you are not playing with meta guns? gtfo

[rose nova]

not like that people who call gamers who use mg idiots

[lost lynx]

BUNCH OF IDIOTS

[rose nova]

[slender flare]

[Revolver my beloved]

[upper loom]

which ones?

[lost lynx]

God i hate GTFO chat trash talking my favorite gun

[slender flare]

Revolver, Sawed off, Pistol, Veruta

[upper loom]

nightmares and chargers arent gonna be fun but

do your best

👍

try high cal

[rose nova]

no

[slender flare]

i always take sawed off for these

[slender flare]

no, it feels weirdly clunky for me

[upper loom]

fair enough

[worthy flicker]

Sawed off revolver is a cool loadout tbh, I respect that

[upper loom]

ikwym, it felt really big when i first ran it

[rose nova]

revo my beloved gun for r2b2

[worthy flicker]

Cowboy ass mf

[lost lynx]

Revolver and Revolver my beloved

[upper loom]

its good

very good actually

[slender flare]

i used it in a past. but about revo i also just like the fact that i got to click heads to do soemthing, it makes me feel rewarded for actually having good aim

[worthy flicker]

HCP feels like a Resident Evil Magnum

[real monolith]

I hate all gtfo guns

[worthy flicker]

I hate gtfo, bad game tbh

[real monolith]

So real

[lost lynx]

I mean
It is a HIGH CAL sidearm

[worthy flicker]

Yeah but those don't always feel as chunky as HCP

[slender flare]

i actually taught myself how to handle them but i need some space for it

[upper loom]

sawed off should keep you covered for the most part

that gun is broken

im sure you've noticed

[modern coral]

There is just not much virtue to using bad NM guns into NMs. You just don't get to affect combat very much at all, and if anyone else does take sweatier guns they de-facto carry wave holds.

[slender flare]

yeah, i mostly use it for giants or tight situations

[old lynx]

should i use mg

it seems strong

[slender flare]

it's like a delete button if Revolver can't handle a sitation

[upper loom]

best gun in the whole game ( trust )

[mystic moss]

are you real

[upper loom]

they're new 😔

[daring ginkgo]

why i got achievements " all secondary and overload sectors done on entire game " after r8c1 🤔

[lost lynx]

Don't Say that word here

People get angry

[upper loom]

spaghetti code

[slender flare]

wait which gun was mg

[rose nova]

all overloads achiev

[slender flare]

machine gun?

[old lynx]

it has a lot of bullets

[rose nova]

yes

[slender flare]

MY BELOVED

[rose nova]

shure did :3

[slender flare]

oh

[urban oxide]

machinegun seems like a good sleeper annhilator ngl

[slender flare]

i love machine guns

[urban oxide]

one of us are using it

[slender flare]

that's it's purpose

[daring ginkgo]

i loved mg until r4

[rose nova]

@daring ginkgo clarifying it is not a bug there is a reason for the ov achievement

:3

[slender flare]

I loved Veruta and then i met Revolver

[rose nova]

not the sec one however

[modern coral]

If you just want a lot of bullets, play Short Rifle. But a lot of bullets isn't actually a good thing, you kind of want kill speed and general eco (which are both more available on guns w/ fewer bullets, but higher damage, i.e. HEL Gun, HEL Rifle, Combat Shotgun, etc.).

[upper loom]

its good wave clear until you meet tougher enemies that become very common in later rundowns

[slender flare]

it's bad against bigger enemies though

[rose nova]

i just blank all of those big messages immediately

[slender flare]

NO NOT THE SHORT RIFLE

[lost lynx]

Shhhhh