gtfo-chat

[worthy flicker]

Just don't stop killing

[modern coral]

Kind of the opposite, no?

Level is completely trivial until error starts

[graceful geode]

Yeah unless you meant the back half of the game

[worthy flicker]

Idk

My brain handles that chaos better

I hate stealthing through shadow giants

I love shooting things

[modern coral]

You just scatter

and clear shadow zone

[graceful geode]

Since ultimately I dont feel like R2E1 punishes mistakes as hard as R4E1 or R5E1 do

[worthy flicker]

I found the back half of r2e1 kinda similar

You just shoot the hordes with a hel shotgun

Hel Shotgun+Combat Shotgun unironically felt like a good loadout for it

Just stay right, do scans, ezpz

[graceful geode]

It's more pronounced than that because it's easy to get fucked in the ass by a fucktillion strikers with the surge in the fog

[worthy flicker]

Nah ik

Idk

I think it's because my brain prefers the chaos

[modern coral]

There is probably some selection effect

[worthy flicker]

I love alarms and scans

[graceful geode]

Everything aside from that part is so standardizable it ain't an issue

[modern coral]

If you are in a pub group that reaches error

[worthy flicker]

I do not love stealth

[modern coral]

chances are at least some people in the pub know what's up

[worthy flicker]

Confirmation bias probably defo exists here

[modern coral]

And so error section will not feel very difficult

[honest parrot]

The only problem usually is cell plug and losing the cell door defence

[modern coral]

Vs. the groups that are very much stuck on the first half are going to be completely lost when error starts

[honest parrot]

The last defence usually is free cause you can see

[worthy flicker]

If you're making it to the error you're with a better then normal R2E1 group, yeah

Cause ime most pub r2e1s don't even handle room 1 well

[honest parrot]

Most r2e1 pubs forget da baby

[modern coral]

First surge is definitely a jouney sometimes

[worthy flicker]

Yk how many times I see people who gotta sit behind that one metal sheet cause first surge is scary?

I'm entirely sure yk which one I mean

[graceful geode]

I dont

there's a cheesespot?

[honest parrot]

The cheese spot on the left of door

[graceful geode]

had no idea

[honest parrot]

It's on a slope

[worthy flicker]

^

[honest parrot]

The handguard metal sheet makes you imunne to licks

And you can hit through the sheet

[worthy flicker]

Yup

[graceful geode]

just like in real life

That's why I ALWAYS have a metal sheet with me

[worthy flicker]

And tbh it won't even save a bad group because you still have the rest of R2E1 to deal with

[honest parrot]

To be fair if you need it you're probably going to die in shadows

[worthy flicker]

Yup

[honest parrot]

And you usually use it for conserving ammo after surge

[worthy flicker]

Genuinely I think that sheet metal spot is the first sign of a bad run

[honest parrot]

If you're actually good

[graceful geode]

There's no point to a cheese spot for a surge alarm anyway 😄

[worthy flicker]

Tell that to R2E1 pubs

[honest parrot]

Eh you use it to think on how to pick up your team

After they all die

[graceful geode]

I mean unless you go there at the end but whatever

[worthy flicker]

That is true

Has anyone ever soloed R2E1?

[graceful geode]

I will always remember someone asking me why I wasn't bugging doors on R7C1

[graceful geode]

yeah

many

[worthy flicker]

That's impressive tbh

[graceful geode]

Remilia Scarlet for one

[worthy flicker]

I'm gonna watch one of those sometime

[graceful geode]

And I'm pretty sure the usual suspects of Hinoki and t-nenpi

[worthy flicker]

How do you do the whole

3 OBJ carry

[brittle schooner]

its mostly kiting

[worthy flicker]

Oh

Yeah

That makes sense

[brittle schooner]

you dont rlly have much choice

surges are 2 fat 2 be able to realistically shoot by yourself while also doing scans/carrying shit

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, idk why I thought it'd involve like

Cool Looking Stuff

It's mechanically impressive to solo levels like this but goddamn is kiting boring to observe

[brittle schooner]

duo runs and 4 man speeds are more interesting

[worthy flicker]

I love watching 4 man speed runs but that's cause I'm violence brained

I love fast and loud GTFO

[graceful geode]

I mean it depends on the map

But yeah, especially duos

[worthy flicker]

Stealth? In my GTFO?

Get outta here

[brittle schooner]

outside of speeding A lvls i dont rlly find solo to be interesting in vanilla, but thats just my opinion shrug

[worthy flicker]

I like soloing A levels tbh

Granted R5A1 feels like the only truly hard one

[graceful geode]

No you're technically right since I didnt consider the "more interesting" part

To be fair for how much it might sound, I dont enjoy watching stuff like some A speeds even in 4 people

[worthy flicker]

Tbf R1A1 is only gonna get so interesting

As an aside, Hel Gun has 49 rounds max right?

[brittle schooner]

its not my go to but at least its somewhat interesting

[worthy flicker]

And it pens what, 3 enemies?

[brittle schooner]

3 enemies pen ya, not sure about the max mag i forgor

[graceful geode]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12NK4Q3oNjR8Gs57GWc2YXlUMiIXQmdeRlNPJLwGtk1U

[worthy flicker]

Tyty

[graceful geode]

I think this spreadsheet is up to date and works

[worthy flicker]

Seems to be color coded too

Idk I feel like I wanna mix up my loadout again

Hel Shotgun/Burst Cannon is getting a bit stale

Kinda wanna run DTR or Hel Gun with something or maybe eachother

Could also just become a Hel Revo user ig

[hoary crescent]

should we get the medi or not #gtfo-media message

[cinder glen]

@warped blade Alright, things have been done. Finally. Did you still want to play the beginner levels together? :) I should be available in about 45 minutes (with dinner and all).

[nocturne spear]

Tried to matchmake for the first time since bots are pretty useless beyond B missions. Instantly met by super toxic players. Epic. Hopefully the LFG expereince here is better lol

[noble rose]

😬 mm

[inner turret]

i think they're still ok in some C tiers, but the ones that require u to do something that disables ur guns r really hard with just bots

like uplinks or if u need to carry turbine

iv learnd to abuse quirks of bots when playing xd
like how they can shoot without waking room, or stealth giants for u if ur using a knife

its weird that they do all these things but can (and will) still friendly fire you without hesitation

[daring ginkgo]

bots are fine

[pastel dagger]

i feel like thats because it isnt

r2e1 is literally r6d4

surge in the start and in the end are the two wipe points

with everything in between being very doable

the problem with r2e1 is also u have to carry fucking cells and whatnot

and cant see shit

so its like a mix of r6c2 post secondary+r6d4

[modern coral]

In the grand scheme of the game, it's first surge in error is kind of hard but not insane

Compared to the rest of the level, it is by far the most challenging thing in the level.

[stark idol]

If the surge alarm at the beginning decides to drop the scan at the very opposite end of the room, you just get swarmed and die

Other than that, it’s not too bad

That cluster surge at the end though is funny

[modern coral]

Compared to the rest of R2 generally, it's also really difficult.

[worthy flicker]

I think R2E1 is an anomaly of difficulty where it lies but not overall in the game

Like surrounded by R1 and 3 on either side and the rest of R2, yeah, it looks awful, but after playing some R4s and 5s?

[pastel dagger]

thats applicable for those of us who just pushed alt r2 when it released

now noobs come in and you tell them to do it in order

and they are fucked

[worthy flicker]

Who's telling people to do it in order

[pastel dagger]

literally everyone and their brother on this server

[worthy flicker]

Everyone I've met that's new, myself included, just decides to do it in order tbh

Like, ignorant of this server

[modern coral]

And compared to the rest of the game, it's still harder than most encounters. R6D4 does not stand out as particularly difficult both because of the funnel and lack of fog, almost no sleeping enemies, and error doesn't ramp to huge sizes (flyers also not very scary)

[worthy flicker]

I've tried to tell personal friends not to and they're like "nah we wanna go in order"

[pastel dagger]

but if one noob asks what should i do they will tell him to do r1 and go in order

[near stag]

the inner completionists. people generally dont like to give up and move on to next rundown

[worthy flicker]

Ik I've done up to R4C2 in order

Then I started doing A levels solo

[modern coral]

Whenever I see it brought up, I will say go out of order with some caveats

[worthy flicker]

I think you can do R1 and R3 in order tbh

[modern coral]

Play R4 and R5 late, do R8 last

[pastel dagger]

i agree with the statement that its not particularly difficult, however ive seen many scenarios where the first surge and the last push overwhelm teams and wipe them entirely

[worthy flicker]

God, I like the concept of doing 6/7/8 in order tho

[pastel dagger]

very frequently

[modern coral]

Which lvl?

[pastel dagger]

6d4

[modern coral]

I feel like R2E1 is that but much much worse.

[pastel dagger]

yes but they both do it very similarly

first and last surge

[modern coral]

First surge in error is very chaotic, and last zone can get scuffed easily.

Last is not surge, but big error fucks people up yeah

[pastel dagger]

yea im aware but its just a lot a lot of them it feels like one

is it like 8d2 extraction? or is that one a proper surge?

[modern coral]

I think that is a proper surge, not that I've checked.

[pastel dagger]

last 7e1 was thrown on extract 😭

[modern coral]

I think 8 should be called out as last just because the content seriously shits on the uninitiated.

At least if you don't skip optionals on C1

[pastel dagger]

i think up to r8b3 its regular gtfo

c1pe is a force to be reckoned with tho true

[hasty bobcat]

what's the talk about

[modern coral]

C1 Overload is unplayable w/ any number of MGs

[hasty bobcat]

for sure

[pastel dagger]

i dont remember if i have my completion screenshot

[fresh heron]

C1 is only that bad if you make it that bad though. If you go into it with 3 others that know what to do (with or without skipping the 2ndry scan) then you should be fine

[modern coral]

And that goes for R8 generally, very casual players are completely worthless or detrimental for anything hard in R8

[pastel dagger]

skipping 2ndary scan?

[fresh heron]

you can clear out the secondary and come do it on the extract. Doing so means there is not shadows to fight in the ovld

[modern coral]

This is pertaining to players that skip to R8, so by definition not a checked in 4-stack.

[pastel dagger]

bruh

[fresh heron]

Fair enough. Agree with yall though that players that hop into R8 either get carried to B4 (Or in 1 particular case E2)

[modern coral]

Idk

[pastel dagger]

i mean

b4 main is also fine for randoms

[modern coral]

R8 is one of the few places where I will hardcore police loadouts

[pastel dagger]

but anything else forget about it

tho i did r8c2 in mm first try

[unreal crystal]

r8 is like super lock in mode for me in pubs yea

[pastel dagger]

like after b4 it was a breeze

[unreal crystal]

ill greed the 5 use ammo more

[modern coral]

If you are in R8 and hovering MG, either you've been fucking worthless your entire playtime or you've besten less than half the levels and shouldn't be in B-side R8 LFGs to begin with.

[pastel dagger]

its not even r8 tbh

once i used mg outside r1 i was like yea nah

[fresh heron]

may or may not have used it though r3 of my completions. started running hel gun about then and its been a mainstay

[unreal crystal]

ray did anyone bring mg in r8 during 100%

[modern coral]

You can get away with MGs so long as enemies are mostly strikers

[unreal crystal]

i dont remember

[modern coral]

I don't think so, I might have run it on R8A1 tbh

[worthy flicker]

That's how my first good R2E1 went tbh, thrown outside extract room

[unreal crystal]

yea i assumed maybe a1 but that doesnt rlly count

[modern coral]

Joe actually ran BC for once

[unreal crystal]

crazy

[pastel dagger]

i did r2e1 either 2nd or 3rd try with a stack when it released

[fresh heron]

you could just run all of r8 bp sr. fun loadout if you don't like having ammo

[modern coral]

SR isn't ammo starved tbh

[worthy flicker]

I did R2E1 for a week straight with randoms tbh

[pastel dagger]

flash forward 1-2 years later a new pub friend invites me to r2e1 and im like how in the fuck did we do this

[modern coral]

Run AR HAR if you want to be totally dry

[fresh heron]

its a solid wepeon if you have the cps

[unreal crystal]

i should put that on the bingo board ray

sr macro mention

[modern coral]

ARHAR?

[unreal crystal]

or cps

[modern coral]

Oh

[unreal crystal]

i think arhar is a little too obscure really

i doubt anyones actually going to run that

[pastel dagger]

bp on r8b1 is fine

[unreal crystal]

but if i pick SR

theres a solid chance someones gonna say the guns only good with the macro

[modern coral]

Maybe, not sure I've seen it tbh

[fresh heron]

beaten all but e2 with it and our e2 run was at kracken when we died with it lol. It works with 3 who know how to use it and are knowledgeable of the levels

[pastel dagger]

havent really explored e2 all that much yet

[unreal crystal]

ok honestly ray people could sabotage

[pastel dagger]

focusing on leftover 7e1 and secondaries

[unreal crystal]

and just join lobbies and like spam 3 things out at once

LOL

[fresh heron]

did you do mains only?

[pastel dagger]

8d2 yes

[unreal crystal]

maybe i shouldnt reveal bingo board contents

[hasty bobcat]

if u know what to do nothing is bad !!

[pastel dagger]

i was really struggling as well i wanted to make sure i can do 8d2 main before i do secondary cuz ive heard its fucked

[fresh heron]

main isnt that bad. depends on if you do the 9 or 7 scan for 2ndry

[pastel dagger]

tho all ive been doing is matchmaking so maybe figures

i really dont like mom boss fight and extraction

other than that its a really fun time

[fresh heron]

pubbing d2 is not a fun time. It attracts the doorbuggers lol

[pastel dagger]

well the mod works

last door bugger tried to do it on 8a2 sec

[worthy flicker]

Doorbuggers(derogatory)

[pastel dagger]

i was like im not sure thats gonna work

he was like trust

it did not work

so the mod works

[worthy flicker]

You WILL kill the sleepers in this lobby

[fresh heron]

There was an incident involving a doorbugger, a good player, an e2 clear, and a supposed d2 clear that was pretty funny not too long ago.

[pastel dagger]

nah i feel bad about door bug

it basically falsifies the clear

thats why i technically still need to do r5e1

[worthy flicker]

Doorbugs feel bad

Look cool I got the cosmetic ig

[fresh heron]

could always cell skip. Quick resets but if you get it its also quick lol

[worthy flicker]

Question

[pastel dagger]

the host used door bug on cell skip

[worthy flicker]

Yk the R4C3 PE ||tank?|| I think I'm thinking of the right mission here

[pastel dagger]

yea the easy part

what about it

[worthy flicker]

Hypothetically, how many mines does it take to just 1 shot it

For gits and shiggles

[pastel dagger]

i recall people putting about 5

depends also on trip mine damage

[fresh heron]

just ask those who bring mines on 4e1.

[hasty bobcat]

seven mines

[worthy flicker]

Thank you

[hasty bobcat]

but u always place 8 for the memes

[worthy flicker]

I want my R4E1 clear bad tbh

But I know I must actually get better first

[pastel dagger]

4c3 is like

[hasty bobcat]

why would u ask like half of the server

[pastel dagger]

third try at best fifth try at worst

[worthy flicker]

I have it done without PE but

That PE was defo doable

[pastel dagger]

pe is easy its just the last push

[worthy flicker]

Really it's the last room

And randoms being nervous

[pastel dagger]

yep

[worthy flicker]

Honestly just pull it

Guns work good

[hasty bobcat]

everyone is cooked on ammo for some reason

[pastel dagger]

i dont know whats the appropriate loadout for it

[hasty bobcat]

maybe I should tell my pubs to not bring 3 verutas

[pastel dagger]

but if u cfoam the doors at the last second u should be gucci

[hasty bobcat]

it's default

1 each

[pastel dagger]

yeah

if any door is fucked good luck

still doable but man

[worthy flicker]

That's good advice tbh

[pastel dagger]

i just remember there isnt a lot of time to do that

btw

i started to appreciate r4b2 more

overload rng is crazy

[near stag]

full auto short rifle is viable trust

[hasty bobcat]

ngl it's better

[mellow hedge]

Can this be the next competition pls

[unreal crystal]

no its nothing interesting LOL

[fresh heron]

is it just challenges for runs or things mentioned on the server?

[hasty bobcat]

gtfo bingo would go hard

[pine root]

Well it more like

[hasty bobcat]

i hate that i'm hitting almost everything in a vet bingo

💀

[pine root]

Beth is playing pub bingo while drinking

[hasty bobcat]

this is so huge ngl

[mellow hedge]

Dayum

Surely streamed?

[pine root]

Yeah surely but gtfo is like the easiest stream snipping / ruining thing

I can’t wait to make Beth drink everything

[mellow hedge]

Fair

[hasty bobcat]

she'll pub when ure sleeping

so no pubs

[mellow hedge]

Oh no I ticket off every bingo card

[hasty bobcat]

lmAO

[graceful geode]

Sleep is nice

[hasty bobcat]

frosty is that one pub to kill a giant with machine pistol

[mellow hedge]

yea

[near stag]

ngl sleepers with guns would go crazy

[hasty bobcat]

u just parry

[near stag]

parry a mine nerd

[hasty bobcat]

@wraith marsh

[wraith marsh]

I could add it

[hasty bobcat]

me parrying my mines to get resources

[near stag]

doesnt parrying melees cause an eplosion? infinite explosion parry would be nuts

[wraith marsh]

parry explosion doesnt damage you so you cant parry it

you can parry chain shooting eachother tho

[hasty bobcat]

chill u should remove shove cd

[wraith marsh]

its already op enough

[hasty bobcat]

is it reduced

still haven't played

[wraith marsh]

no

[hasty bobcat]

oh well

[wraith marsh]

trust me it does not need it

[hasty bobcat]

i mean ig

existing is enough

[pine root]

Can you make it so I can parry

tank melee

[wraith marsh]

yes

[pine root]

What about parry birth

[wraith marsh]

we have ground slam for that

[hasty bobcat]

is this still a gtfo talk

can u add echo slam to gtfo

so the more there babies the more damage it deals

[wraith marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220777869165203538/1339137660656025620/4_mom_kill.mp4?ex=67ada0a2&is=67ac4f22&hm=7b894d76cdbee55f450240cd70577bc66b4f579dac88d3333a0d01fb674638e6&

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[wraith marsh]

get real

[mellow hedge]

what in the fuck am i watchingf

[wraith marsh]

peak

[hasty bobcat]

^

[graceful geode]

I'd legit forget R6 existed if it wasn't R6D3 and perhaps R6CX (previously DX).

[shut vapor]

I genuinely cannot recall any alt r4 map layouts

[pine root]

Not even r4c2

[mellow hedge]

bro has not played r4e1

[pine root]

Do you have every map in the game memorized

Yet

[mellow hedge]

guhm

no

[pine root]

I still need to memorize every zone number

It is so hard to do tho

[mellow hedge]

yeah lmao

i know like most level layouts tho

missing a lot from r4 and r5 cause i dont play them much

[honest parrot]

I don't remember any of them

So in a way all of them are equally forgetable

[hasty bobcat]

i have no idea about r4/5 b levels

except r5b1 ig

[fleet kettle]

honestly yeah r4 besides c2, d-tiers, e1 is ass.

[mellow hedge]

bro has not played r4b2

[hasty bobcat]

yeah :(

[fleet kettle]

C2 just meme value at this point

[hasty bobcat]

is it a gen cluster

or not cluster

[mellow hedge]

wrong opinion

[fleet kettle]

d1 is somewhat okay reactor

[hasty bobcat]

just gens

[pine root]

r4 and r5 have some of the worst levels in the game

[mellow hedge]

yeah idk what they were cooking with optionals

but r4e1 is a good level

[hasty bobcat]

they weren't

[pine root]

Also they made them required

btw

[fleet kettle]

r4 being the rundown optionals were introduced in

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[fleet kettle]

AS well as error alarms

[pine root]

Error alarms

[hasty bobcat]

erm

r2c2

be like

[mellow hedge]

r3d1 moment

[pine root]

Are actually the best part

Of GTFO

Hate to say

[mellow hedge]

true

[hasty bobcat]

yes !!

[mellow hedge]

literally all of samdown relies on errors

[hasty bobcat]

me clenching my ass cheeks by bbc error

[mellow hedge]

crazy how they didnt do a mom error in base game

[fleet kettle]

r2c2 and r3d1 the only error alarms before r4, and they start going from level start, compared to r4 where you get error alarms on doors.

[pine root]

R2e1

[fleet kettle]

Ah forgor it as well

[hasty bobcat]

yeah i was about to say

[pine root]

R1a1 on hsu(all hsus minus some stupid examples)

[mellow hedge]

anyone want to run r1a1?

[fleet kettle]

oi, at that point we can call each hsu an error alarm

[pine root]

They are

[pine root]

hate to say

[mellow hedge]

the day gtfo gets mod support is the day markiplier comes back

[graceful geode]

R4B2's error is basically at the start

not to nitpick

[hasty bobcat]

15 doesn't exist

[honest parrot]

You mean officially?

[mellow hedge]

yes

[unreal crystal]

im just glad r1 isnt the most picked

[graceful geode]

Well there's a lot R4 votes, didnt expect that

Yeah I expected R1 to win this poll

[unreal crystal]

r1 is the really obvious pick

[graceful geode]

I cant forget it because I find it relaxing and so I often replay it

[unreal crystal]

its just the first rundown and i remember every level super well

[hasty bobcat]

what did u choose beth

[unreal crystal]

r7

i remember a bunch of levels in every rundown

but in r7 theres 2

r7d2 and r7e1

i like never play any of the others

[hasty bobcat]

honestly i agree

[unreal crystal]

its a hard call cause i remember all the rundowns really well but i think r7 is just the one i play the least ngl

maybe r5

[hasty bobcat]

i'm not a fan of anything outside of d2/e1

[pine root]

R5 should have more votes

Ngl

R5b1 is a crime

[rose nova]

alt r1 ez to remember, alt r2 good, alt r3 ok-ish, alt r5 hard funny rundown, r6 awesome, r7 has aged pretty badly but has some cool ideas and levels like c1 d2 e1 c2, r8 awesome
legit r4 has E1, D2, and maybe C3 going for it, and thats about it

i forgotten every other level in the rundown, A tiers a meh, the B tier is probs the most forgettable in the game, C is just C3, D tier is fine, E1

[pine root]

Insane that r7 has aged but r4 and r5

Haven’t

[rose nova]

i think r4 has aged terribly as well in the use of optionals

r5 has just always been funni

[pine root]

R5

Has also aged like milk man

[rose nova]

it was aged badly from the difficulty the second it came out but i think it has aged better than r4

moreso cuz alts carry its crazy ass difficulty

it mustve been so much worse to see a mom in an A tier back then but now itll be ur 5th rundown so

[pine root]

R5b tiers and r5c1-2 are crimes

[rose nova]

it is batshit but not as batshit insane

[rose nova]

b3 was fine they just butched it in alt

b2 is- well b2 exist

[pine root]

B4 is zzzzzz

[rose nova]

b4 yes has aaged pretty bad

well it was

always sort of bad

now it has the funni at least

[pine root]

b1 is what I think good fore play is like

[rose nova]

learning the english language issometimes a mistake

but id rather play a lot more from r5 than r4

at least its funny hard, not just the same error 5 times

[pine root]

I to would rather cut off my finger than gut my eyes

but that doesn’t mean I love cutting off my finger

[rose nova]

no but we have to choose

[pine root]

Yeah I think if you choose r4 you would also choose r5 hate to say

But then you put

R7 beside r4 which is crazy

[rose nova]

i didnt put r7 aside of r4
i put it above KMDSKM

[pine root]

Insane

[honest parrot]

man sleepo's vote's being pushed to kingdom come already

[rose nova]

i think r7 has aged less terribly even tho its... older? technically?
it has c1 which is still fun, c2 which is a slept on banger, c3 which has the idea of being cool, d1 which has aged a lot better than the rest, d2 which has aged worse but its still fun

[hasty bobcat]

we should delete every level except E tiers

[rose nova]

the B tiers are sort of boring but not nearly as r4s

like at least b3 has a cool overload

[pine root]

R7b2 is the only crime

[unreal crystal]

i changed to r5

[hasty bobcat]

^

[rose nova]

i mean r7b1 is just sort of any b1 except its awesome cuz its garden

gardens W

[unreal crystal]

i actually play r5 the least

[pine root]

R7b1 shouldn’t have gotten nerfed

Tbh

[rose nova]

for the time, i think it got nerfed in the wrong way but it needed it

[pine root]

No

It definitely didn’t

[rose nova]

it just shouldnt have let u open the door immediately, thats just how everyone died

not cuz of the wave itself

just cuz of the panic

i got stuck there on the free weekend cuz i thought it was an error as everyone did

[pine root]

it should have been an error

would be a sick ending

[mellow hedge]

every rundown has a good level

[pine root]

R1

[mellow hedge]

but r1 just has decent levels

[rose nova]

at least it shouldve let u pull the alarm and then spawn the error flyers or something, but it was just the thing of being unclear

oops

wrong person

sorri

[mellow hedge]

rather my favourite levels then some mediocre levels

[pine root]

Good arguement

Tbh

[rose nova]

i prefer a line of ok-ish levels than just bad levels followed by a couple bangers

[mellow hedge]

like r5e1, r4e1, r3d1

[pine root]

I also think getting rid of r1c1 is a net benefit

[mellow hedge]

all those make me keep those

[pine root]

for the game

[rose nova]

we would have to prepare the r2c1 copypaste

or maybe the b3 copypaste

hell maybe even b1

[pine root]

Na r2c2

[rose nova]

u have aa lot of faith on people for sure

[hasty bobcat]

game would've had double the online

trust

[rose nova]

if r1s gone r2 the new r1

[hoary crescent]

I like r1c1 I get to merge whilst afk on terminal

[rose nova]

the only fucking issue of r1c1 is the hallway- thats it

if the reactor hallway didnt have columns

[pine root]

Nope

[rose nova]

it would be so much fucking better

[mellow hedge]

its afk sim

[pine root]

R1c1 is just like a example level

Like from a pre alpha build

[rose nova]

oh well it is im just referring more to people getting stuck on it

[rose nova]

it is technically

ur not wrong there

[pine root]

YUP

IK

[hoary crescent]

when are people remaking all r1-r6 but with different enemies/modded enemies

[rose nova]

tbh how would u mod c1 to be like all funky

maybe every wave a diff kind of wave?

[hoary crescent]

idk just make waves be bbc

[rose nova]

normals chafgers shadows giants uh

[hoary crescent]

or modded enemies

[rose nova]

then again but with bosses

[pine root]

Nightmare spam

[hoary crescent]

yeah

[lost lynx]

Can't wait for the one shot enemies with 1900000000 HP

[pine root]

Surely nightmares are good enemies

[hasty bobcat]

u just make reactor room a diff room

[rose nova]

normal, chargers + mom, shadows + tank, nightmares

[hasty bobcat]

from r5c2 or whatever

and make more doors open

[hoary crescent]

aight time to make my own rundown

[hasty bobcat]

so u have diff spawns

ggwp level fixed

[pine root]

R1c1 wanted you to have to push for res

But you don’t need to

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[pine root]

What should happen is we make that a thing you actually have to do

[rose nova]

good luck making r1d1 cool and still ominous

[pine root]

We spawn players in reactor

[hasty bobcat]

and insta start it

[rose nova]

omg occlusion

[hasty bobcat]

yes

[burnt flume]

solo players are crying

[pine root]

then all their res is through new zones that open

[rose nova]

occlusion moment

[pine root]

Then we gut the number of waves

To 6

[rose nova]

PLAY OCCLU RN ITS AWESOME it is literally just occlu d4

[pine root]

then what if we make you find the codes as well

Maybe like

R3a3

Wow

Crazy

[hasty bobcat]

it's a different level already

[rose nova]

crazy how with this sidearc i would till vote r4 to be wiped lol

[pine root]

R4 deserves to be wipped

[hoary crescent]

can we make r1c1 but every wave is designed by a different player

[pine root]

Yeah let me do wave one

[rose nova]

thats funny but its gonna end up in a tank and mom every single wave

[hoary crescent]

aight bet

[pine root]

I found this really cool idea

[hoary crescent]

it's the community rundown

[pine root]

Of Perma emping players while I spawn enemies behind them with zero noise

[hoary crescent]

lmao

[pine root]

Actually let me do wave 7 so I can wipe everyone once

[hoary crescent]

aight imma do wave 2

[high orchid]

I got wave 6

[rose nova]

i do wave 4 why cuz cuz funny

[fleet kettle]

5

Potato wave

[shut vapor]

Y'all remember when shirtless hackett was just a dream

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[hoary crescent]

just post it here and I'll collect it when I check in tomorrow

[rose nova]

even if it exists, it still is if i want him here

[high orchid]

so inferno

[pine root]

Na we expect it from inferno

I like sneaking it into a real level

[shut vapor]

Look in your walls

[pine root]

Do you know what level I speak of

[shut vapor]

The r1a1 experience

[hoary crescent]

my wave 2 will be that charger mom thing

[rose nova]

i live in a cardboard box

[hasty bobcat]

nah

[hoary crescent]

and idk a tank

[pine root]

I literally crashed out yesterday

[rose nova]

average modded rundown creative process

[hoary crescent]

pretty much

[fleet kettle]

R4C2 with constant error consisting only of emp mobs

[hasty bobcat]

? ?

[fleet kettle]

And also remove terms from level

Best level

[hoary crescent]

omg yes

[pine root]

I love removing terms from a level

[rose nova]

r4c2 but every time u look away the tile changes

[pine root]

Good idea

[hoary crescent]

no pinging for you

[hasty bobcat]

i had 2 terms in 5 zones !!

[pine root]

Actually great idea

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[hoary crescent]

ai gtfo when

[hasty bobcat]

is it host dependant

just like melee animations

[rose nova]

everywhere at the end of time starts playing

[hoary crescent]

where tf is gtfo weapon randomizer???

everytime you reload your gun changes

[hasty bobcat]

me reloading short rifle into a short rifle

[hoary crescent]

lmao

[hasty bobcat]

hitting the jackpot

[rose nova]

wheres my clicky thing to make the prec rifle a semi instead of an auto mid level

[hasty bobcat]

me shooting one bullet from my mag to roll weapons

[fleet kettle]

each shot is from random gun

pick short rifle

[hoary crescent]

everytime you fully charge your melee it changes it

[fleet kettle]

shoots sniper

[hasty bobcat]

lmAO

[fleet kettle]

at rate of short rifle

[hoary crescent]

bruh haha

[rose nova]

everytime u put down a sentry is a diff kind of sentry

[hoary crescent]

shotgun sentry galore

[rose nova]

everytime u laid down a mine is either explosive or a foam one lmao

[hoary crescent]

I assume there's already an enemy randomizer right?

[fleet kettle]

or it just explodes in ur face

[hoary crescent]

Russian roulette gtfo

[rose nova]

nah my friends already do that randomizer for me

[hoary crescent]

everytime you place a mine it's a 50/50 it explodes

[rose nova]

every frame u can lose 60%

[fleet kettle]

25/25/50 - normal/disarmed/expodes

[hasty bobcat]

every time u shoot hel revo there is a chance u get tk'ed by it

!!

[hoary crescent]

peak

I'd start using hel revo again

[rose nova]

foam randomizer everytime u let out a blob it.... it goes on flames 50/50

[hoary crescent]

I've been corrupted by the sawed offs

everytime you shoot foam you have a 50/50 of Sam shouting how bad you are for using it

[rose nova]

"oh the new meta oh the new best gun" i just use what i think i havent used in a fuck ton of time

[hasty bobcat]

100/0*

[rose nova]

me pickin machinepistol for r4d2 thinkin "i havent used it in a bit"

[hoary crescent]

more accurate

[warped blade]

well shit i got here a bit late

my bad

[junior latch]

Oh boy do I have news for you sky

[junior latch]

Errors like r1a1, r1b2, r1c1, r1d1, r2a1, r2b3, r2b4, r2c1, r2d1, r2d2, r2e1

(Tbf only r2e1 isnt an extraction alarm error)

R3A1, R3A2, R3A3, R3B1, R3B2, R3C1

(Same here but for R3C1)

[hasty bobcat]

pls

[junior latch]

Theres gonna be a lockout bingo event soon

not as fun/meme as what beths doing (pub bingo is smth I also did sometimes, pretty funny) but moreso slight challenge in vs format

[hasty bobcat]

🥺

god bless gtfo community

💗

[junior latch]

Ill just have to set a date/weekend and see who has time/is interested

[sharp owl]

Yo me and my friend serber need a third player later cause we just started playing the game and the bots lowkey stupid

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies, the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1/6 since they are the easiest ones

also bot slander will not be permitted in this household

[sharp owl]

Am sorry but what they do sometimes is out of pocket

[rose nova]

they might act all funny but still useful >:3

[sharp owl]

To place stuff yuh

And open locks

[rose nova]

and snek

[sharp owl]

Sure

Totally don’t alart the enemies and shoot me

[hasty bobcat]

bots cannot wake up enemies

[sharp owl]

One bot good

[hasty bobcat]

even via shooting

[rose nova]

tell em sky !

[hasty bobcat]

yes !!

[rose nova]

they do b shooting sometimes tho, they need the right weapons to be unnoticeable when doing that lol

[sharp owl]

Bro put a whole shotgun shell in me

[lost lynx]

Dont give shotguns to bots

[sharp owl]

One bot on but Bishop is the dumb and dumber of the group

[lost lynx]

They suck at using them as You can see

Give them burst rifle/machinegun

[sharp owl]

Bet

[lost lynx]

also

Bots can't wake up enemies

[sharp owl]

Bro got touched by the seeker

And sent a horde

[rose nova]

still wouldnt do anything to it

they can phase through enemies like its nothing

[lost lynx]

They still won't wake them up

[rose nova]

mustve touched someone else or alerted nother way

[lost lynx]

If the room wakes up that means a PLAYER made a mistake

[pine root]

they be telling the truth

all bots are the same

[rose nova]

:D

[sharp owl]

Nope saw him walk up and got touched and alerted everything

[pine root]

and they cant wake things up

[lost lynx]

Nope

[pine root]

you are just incorrect

[lost lynx]

Thats not how it works

[pine root]

your eeyes are lying to you

[lost lynx]

Bots cant wake up shit

Its hard coded into the game

[rose nova]

me when i see with my uh thermal

🐟

[pine root]

if they accidently hit them with stray bullets

they still wont waake up athought it gets werid

[lost lynx]

🐴

[sharp owl]

One time he shot them for no reason

[lost lynx]

That means they woke up

[sharp owl]

Then hit me

[rose nova]

or u entered the room with awoken enemies behind

or right away woke something up

[sharp owl]

When it was just one that woke up

[rose nova]

theres a lot of ways to get them to do that

but they still silent

[lost lynx]

If You see a bot shooting something let them be

They have silencers

[sharp owl]

Fr?

[lost lynx]

we don't

[lost lynx]

Not really
Is just that they cant wake up anything including by shooting

If they shoot an enemy the other enemies wont wake up

[naive rover]

My favorite is when the bots know exactly where the enemy spawns 2 rooms away and they mag dump a wall before the wave shows up.

[noble rose]

*mag dumps into you at the same time

[sullen remnant]

is it jsut me or the bot just shoots at the worst times ever

like when im trying to sneak kill a giant they just start shooting 😭

[mellow hedge]

even if they shoot it wont wake up the room

[brittle schooner]

if an enemy is awake they'll almost always shoot unless they're close to it then they'll shove and melee

[daring ginkgo]

If enemy is last on room and you cannot kill it in one hit with melee(giant), or there are no enemies in pretty long distance (even if in same room) they wll shoot this enemy

[sullen remnant]

ahh

funny thing is its ALWAYS bishop that shoots it

funny man doing funny things

[daring ginkgo]

Bishop just suck, worst bot

[brittle schooner]

D:

what did bishop do

[sullen remnant]

we will not tolerate bishop hate

[daring ginkgo]

He just loves to stay behind closed doors from other side

God knows how many times he died because of it

[tiny shadow]

stupid question for bot tools: how good (or bad) are bots with the c-foam launcher?

[sullen remnant]

from what ive seen so far i think as you give the command they will shoot no matter the distance

you have to like position them to foam a door so they wont miss

[daring ginkgo]

Very bad

[tiny shadow]

thats kinda what they do with c-foam grenades aswell

[sullen remnant]

yeah they just suck doodoo 😭

[daring ginkgo]

I mean, if it is not a lvl with error alarm, where you have to move and foam at the same time its fine

Or permafoam

[tiny shadow]

asking for r5d2, died yesterday at the class X M scan cause i had bio tracker and all of the doors were broken early

[daring ginkgo]

Dont pick cfoam for this lvl tbh

[tiny shadow]

aight

[terse field]

They will throw a cfoam nade half at the door half at the wall if they are standing in a weird spot

[tiny shadow]

its so annoying

[daring ginkgo]

Class 10 on r5d2 is doable with 3 mines, close all doors, mine doors, which lead directly on your room

It is diminished alarm, so there will be not a LOT of enemies

[tiny shadow]

yeah, i just fucked it up by accidentally triggering one of the two scouts as i entered the room

[daring ginkgo]

For reactor part there are almost guaranteed 2-3 c foam grenades in room with reactor

[tiny shadow]

so the wave broke one side door

[tiny shadow]

havent been that far yet, but i saw the hallway leading to the reactor through the door window

[sand cliff]

if you got 3 turb, so easy to get pass the class x door

[daring ginkgo]

3 turrets? Imo mine deployer almost mandatory for this lvl

[tiny shadow]

atleast two turrets and mine deployer imo is a good lineup for most of the levels, as in it works for most levels

[daring ginkgo]

Also this lvl have so little tool refills

[soft swallow]

I've had a bot took 2 mins to start foaming door after telling them to do so, and they foamed the floor instead so erm

[tiny shadow]

amazing

ive noticed bots sometimes just ignore commands to put more than 1 mine on a door for some reason

[daring ginkgo]

Bots hate floodways (idk how to call this biom, like r5a1) biom doors, they just will not place mines on those doors, only on specific angles

[sand cliff]

i tried to do this with 3 turb bot, and it works fine

infact, pass with barely open fire

[daring ginkgo]

So you did whole r5d2 with 3 bots with bio+3 turrets?

[sand cliff]

yeah

[daring ginkgo]

Cool 👍

[tiny shadow]

huh

okay

[cinder glen]

LOL no problem. It happens. ^^ We can try another time. :) I'll tag you again when I'm available. Or maybe you happen to see me attempt making a little group, in which case feel free to join.

[terse field]

There's no way for bots to put mines high up right? Never gotten them to place them higher than like shin level on a wall

[daring ginkgo]

No

[hoary crescent]

merge?

[sullen remnant]

guys whats the rundowns difficulty in order?

[mellow hedge]

r1, r3, r2/r6, r7/r4, r5, r8

imo

[brittle schooner]

i feel like r4 is a step above r7

but otherwise exact same

[daring ginkgo]

R4 is just the biggest rundown, cause there are PE almost on every mission, also no checkpoints, which can cause troubles, few mistakes and you have to reset 1h+ progress

[jaunty pollen]

??

0 ROOM?

REALLY ???

GTFO RI P?????????

WTF

0 ROOM?

????

[worthy flicker]

It's 6:30 am on the east coast

Americans sleeping, and it's about to roll into 1pm in Europe iirc

[daring ginkgo]

Ded game

[sullen remnant]

ive never tried but can you half charge the back of a chargeR?

[brittle schooner]

depends on the weapon, but with hammer you dont need full charge, i think its closer to like 70% charge tho

[jaunty pollen]

,@worthy flicker...

I need a friend to play games with at dawn\

[worthy flicker]

If I'm awake rn it's to gym, sorry pal

[jaunty pollen]

Why do you apologize
You are my furry

[gusty burrow]

You need 89% with sledge

[graceful geode]

Depends on if you count singular maps or not

As in, R2E1 is harder than anything in R3 so Frosty put R2 as harder than R3

the logic is solid even if most of R2 is easier than R3D1 and even R3C1

[sullen remnant]

might take a while to know especially since there's like 80 maps iirc

[graceful geode]

Counting the "hardest" missions each rundown has inflates R2 quite a decent bit since R2E1 is perhaps easily in the top10 or even top5 hardest levels in the game.

[worthy flicker]

I don't remember much in R3 taking more then 1 or 2 tries with pubs tbh

[graceful geode]

R3's overall very easy

[worthy flicker]

R3D1 is just dropping off the baby isn't it?

Then you mad dash back to pick up iirc

[graceful geode]

It just depends on how you want to consider how "hard" a rundown is, if it's making some sort of average, R2 drops by some positions since more than half of it is a snoozefest

If you consider it as "the hardest level matters" and that's it then R2 skyrockets since R2E1 is harder even than anything in R6 barring perhaps R6D3 PE but that's a very big PERHAPS

[worthy flicker]

Tbh even R2D2 is pretty fuckin easy all things considered

[graceful geode]

I'd say that overall R5 is the hardest rundown considering (I know you dont count Checkpoints, Darkeva, I do) that it doesn't have any checkpoints and some levels are quite long

[worthy flicker]

Checkpoints defo make things easier imo

There's a mental drain that doesn't happen if there's a checkpoint vs "alright time to do this entire mf again"

[graceful geode]

I think that it saves people's times and the game counts it as a clear regardless of you using them once or bashing your head against a wall.

[worthy flicker]

Even if it's a placebo and it'd be the same length

[junior latch]

its not.. tho?
R3C1 and D1 are easier than D1 and D2 and arguably closer to C1 and C2

[graceful geode]

eh problem is that R2 has 1A, 4B and 2Cs that are kinda easy and R2D1 is also pretty easy and standardized

I dont think R3D1 is easier than R2D1

[worthy flicker]

The issue with R2D2 is that if you're going in order it's the first real reactor level

It's not even hard

[graceful geode]

it's easy but R2D1 doesn't require knowing much aside from which order to do things with

R3D1 is basically mom-introduction and I can see people fucking up at the cscouts a lot

It just has more technical knowledge required compared to R2D1

[worthy flicker]

Idk, I genuinely think R3 is overall the second easiest rundown

I don't think that's a hot take either

[graceful geode]

I mean again, it depends on if you count R2E1 as the sole representative of R2 or not

cause sure it's harder than anything in R3

[worthy flicker]

I just don't remember anything from R3

And I normally remember levels if they challenged me in some way

It might be because I did 2E1 first

But everything in 3 felt like a vacation after

R4 on the other hand? Hard.

[junior latch]

checkpoint have more mental drain than levels without ngl

[mellow hedge]

[junior latch]

the level also doesnt become easier, you still failed that run

its just a reset thats closer

[worthy flicker]

Idk dude, I get maybe 2 level attempts if there's no checkpoints with my friends group

[junior latch]

R2A1 vs R3A1 is similar
R2B vs R3B is slight edge to R3
C is even
D is harder for R2
E1 is massively harder than anything

[worthy flicker]

I do think not being sent all the way back to lobby mentally affects em less

[brittle schooner]

wait until u get into r8b4 or r8d2

[graceful geode]

Hi Pepe the frog

[worthy flicker]

I need to get these people to R8 first, so we shall see

[junior latch]

its not even the first lol

[worthy flicker]

It's the first real one. The R1 reactor is really, really simple. Not even real code hunts.

Only gets interesting at the very end

[fossil horizon]

Imagine thinking checkpoints are good, so many people died out there 🕯️

[fleet kettle]

Waiting for yet another 12 hour stream of restarting r1a1 checkpoint

[brittle schooner]

for me specifically it depends on the lvl, on some lvls resetting from checkpoint is whatever (most r6 lvls for example), on others (specifically those where u will most likely fail alot on ur first blind clear) are the ones that feel mentally exhausting

[worthy flicker]

If it's like A Real Checkpoint then yeah they probably suck, but most of the earlier ones feel like gimmes tbh

Free assistance if you will

[graceful geode]

I dont think we're disagreeing much then tbh

R2D2 is harder than R3D1 so

If I'm reading what you wrote correctly

[worthy flicker]

I agree with that overall

R3D1 isn't that bad if you can schmoove your merry behind imo

A lot of GTFO gets easier if you move quickly tho

[graceful geode]

I think we (as in me and you) discussed about this often

[junior latch]

and so is R2D1

[graceful geode]

I just see the goal of a level to clear it regardless of if I get the checkpoint mark or not

[worthy flicker]

I'm not saying the level gets easier, I'm saying it's less mentally taxing on my friends when they don't have to restart it from the very beginning fwiw

[graceful geode]

Nah come on

That ain't true

[junior latch]

R2 is harder cuz the last 2 are miles aove anything in R3
and the rest is closeish, tho R3 starts minimally harder

[junior latch]

it is LOL

[mellow hedge]

r3d1 is quite easy for a d tier

[junior latch]

R3D1 blind MAYBE

[worthy flicker]

Idk, R2D1 might actually be harder then R3D1

[junior latch]

R3D1 is super easy once you know it

"might" its for sure harder

[worthy flicker]

The gen Clusters suck with randoms

Like irregardless of mission ime

[graceful geode]

I can stroll around R2D1 kinda easily

even with bots

[brittle schooner]

if we're talking full blind i'd say its even

[junior latch]

LOL

R3D1 is a meme comapred to R2D1

[graceful geode]

while I also cleared R3D1 with bots

It was definitively harder

[junior latch]

you just shoot everything

[brittle schooner]

but with knowledge r3d1 is trivilized so much

[graceful geode]

than R2D1

[junior latch]

yea no

[junior latch]

this

R3D1 never has any threat

with knowledge

[worthy flicker]

I'll ask my friends what they think is harder tbh, they did R2D1 without me and I'll make em do R3D1 without me

[graceful geode]

Not as much as R2D1

R2D1 is really a snoozefest once you know where to go and the order

I think I lost more R2D1s to spitteraudio then by legit fucking up something 🤣

[worthy flicker]

Tbf I don't think R2D1 is crazy hard, I just think it's harder then 3D1

[graceful geode]

But the knowledge required isn't really the same is it?

Knowing which door to open isn't the same as knowing how to deal with pmom or even mom

I mean you're putting on a plate a level that has hybrids, some scouts and fog against something that starts with an error, has hybrids, mom, fog, cscouts, bbc and a pmom

I know both are easy

[fleet kettle]

some of r2 levels teach you there can be variance

[graceful geode]

but I wouldn't say they're comparable

[fleet kettle]

Literally r2d1 itself you choose which doors to do for cells

[brittle schooner]

mg, the noob trab gun, is one of the better weapons vs moms (i mean babies specifically before anyone freaks out xd), also all it takes to deal with a mom is scattergun xd

[junior latch]

lol no

[worthy flicker]

NOW I REMEmber R3d1

Someone scattered the mom lmfao, that's why I don't remember that level

I barely interacted with the hard part

[mellow hedge]

scattergun

[fleet kettle]

there's also first pmom

[worthy flicker]

I'm pretty sure someone scattergunned that thing too

[fossil horizon]

You always interact with hard part - sniper nerf

[junior latch]

the enemies in r3d1 are worse, but you have unlimited ressources and everything is basically in isolation

[worthy flicker]

R3D1 was legit a cakewalk for me

Which mightve been entirely cause of scattergun

[junior latch]

yea no shit

R3D1 is a cakewalk

[graceful geode]

This doesn't mean R3D1 is easier just because you can bring scatter, Again, the argument is that R2D1 is easier, not that R3D1 is hard

[worthy flicker]

Tbf I'm talking beat it first attempt blind cakewalk

[brittle schooner]

even without scatter u just legit wait for mom to come up, it'll take forever but u just melt her

[graceful geode]

that ain't the point...

R2D1 is an even bigger cakewalk

[junior latch]

NO

[graceful geode]

YES

[brittle schooner]

the bbc/hybrid room is like the only part about r3d1 that i'd say isnt a cakewalk

[graceful geode]

That's already a lot more knowledge to clear it

I dont know why you're all making this into me saying that R3D1 is hard

[brittle schooner]

we never said that tho

[fleet kettle]

Kinda yeah, I see the point beepo making and tbh, excluding the guns and experience, on surface r2d1 is easier compared to r3d1 just by added existense of pressure in form of error alarm

[graceful geode]

Again, let me say "I mean you're putting on a plate a level that has hybrids, some scouts and fog against something that starts with an error, has hybrids, mom, fog, cscouts, bbc and a pmom"

[worthy flicker]

Honestly GTFO is pretty easy, if you think it's a hard game you just got skilldiffed

Just shoot the enemies

[nimble pumice]

what about r7c3

[worthy flicker]

Haven't played it yet tbh

[nimble pumice]

[worthy flicker]

I've unironically been going in order

I'm on R4C3 PE rn

[junior latch]

only if you are talking about a blind run from beginners

the actual difficulty of R3D1 based on knowledge being there is super low

[gusty burrow]

gtfo chat once again discussing level difficulty without using the tried and true 4 axis difficulty scale:

• Resource constraints
• Unrecoverability
• Individual encounters
• Length

[junior latch]

and even then

[graceful geode]

You need to know how to scatter mom how to deal with babies, pmom, cscouts, the error, where to go and whatnot, NONE of it is nuclear physics but it's certanly more to know than R2D1

[mellow hedge]

pretty much all in isolation

[fleet kettle]

@mellow hedge

[worthy flicker]

Tbf isn't ever single level in GTFO drastically easier with prior knowledge

[mellow hedge]

moms in isolation arent a threat

[brittle schooner]

this

even without scatter

[graceful geode]

R3D1 has WAY more resources overall than R2D1, you CAN fuck up more royally in R3D1, and the encounters ARE harder than R2D1 so I guess it wins on all but Length

[worthy flicker]

Nah I agree tbh, Hel Shotgun go brrrrt. Burst Cannon go brrrrt.

[junior latch]

R3D1
0/5
2/5?
2/5
1/5

R2D1
3/5
2/5
1-2/5
3/5

roughly?

[mellow hedge]

0/5
1/5
2/5
1/5

[worthy flicker]

What level is a 5/5 on all of these metrics?

[mellow hedge]

charger zone you literally just shoot scout and hold stairs and its a free zone

[mellow hedge]

e2 is pretty close

[junior latch]

what?
more ressources = easier lol

[brittle schooner]

well if we're talking hardest lvl in the game its r8e2, but i would say its 4/5 on the resources

[graceful geode]

it's harder than any individual encounter in R2D1

[worthy flicker]

R8E2?

[junior latch]

prob none

but indivudual things

[worthy flicker]

Gotcha, I'm awhile off then, ty

[mellow hedge]

and just that makes it harder?

[worthy flicker]

How fucked up is R4E1?

I really want the R4 completion mask

[mellow hedge]

ez

[brittle schooner]

2nd or 3rd hardest lvl depending on who u ask

[pseudo sedge]

.

[mellow hedge]

resources arent an issue

[worthy flicker]

Cut out for me then, thanks

[worthy flicker]

Just shoot em?

[brittle schooner]

but ya resources are a non-issue on r4e1 as long as u dont bring 4 machineguns :3

[burnt flume]

r4e1 you can feasibly do in 30 mins

[gusty burrow]

R2D1 is harder on resource constraints and typical length, so its difficulty is mainly a war-of-attrition style difficulty. The fog factors into this as well. Teams that struggle with efficiency and prolonged concentration will struggle on this level.

R3D1 has abundant resources, but has higher peak individual encounters (charger zone, boss encounters). Teams that don't pick OP weapons will struggle on this level.

[worthy flicker]

I normally run Hel Revo or Shotgun/Burst Cannon because I'm a sweaty boy tbh

[burnt flume]

it's a fairly kind level so long as upu know what you're doing

and loot the ammo

[mellow hedge]

I dont think the bosses pose a threat at all

[worthy flicker]

Sometimes I do.

[gray prawn]

Nah

[graceful geode]

eh what's the big challenge of R2D1 then

like turn it around

[gusty burrow]

And now behold the opinion divide. The people that run the OP meta weapons think R3D1 is easy because their playstyle trivializes the parts of the level that are difficult.

[junior latch]

theres no "big challenge" its all about its overall wearing you down

[worthy flicker]

We've played together before once I think, you, me, and Eva on a reactor mission somewhere

[mellow hedge]

idk i dont play that level

fog, scouts, other stuff

[junior latch]

tru I mean... i usually melee only the pmom

[graceful geode]

What's there to wear down

[burnt flume]

I do vaguely recall

R4D1

[worthy flicker]

Probably

I've been on hiatus again cause life

Yk how it

Be

[junior latch]

less res
fog
honestly the amount of giants
tougher alarms

[worthy flicker]

Giants barely qualify as a real enemy to me after seeing the other giants ngl

Rather, the other other giants

[graceful geode]

tougher alarms?

Aside from the gen cluster windup they always come from 1 direction

unless you open blood doors

[mellow hedge]

so does r3d1

[graceful geode]

but that's part of the "knowing which door to open"

[junior latch]

perma foam

[graceful geode]

no, not really, cscout zone alarm has 2

[junior latch]

perma foam

[worthy flicker]

So, question

[mellow hedge]

every alarm gets perma foamed in r3d1

[fleet kettle]

and r2 teaches u to figure out which door's to open no?

[worthy flicker]

If IScouts exist and CScouts exist, this implies the existence of an ICScout, no?

[brittle schooner]

frosty why does your stream buffer for me so much i cant watch 😠

[mellow hedge]

internet issues ig

DEAL WITH IT

[junior latch]

and even if you dont R3D1 only has 1 (3rd alarm) that is remotely non free to shoot

[brittle schooner]

:(

[graceful geode]

But that's all one would need

[fleet kettle]

just be a better streamer smh my head

[graceful geode]

You dont need to explain the error, the baby carrying, how to deal with mom, pmom, cscouts, the BBCs

There's simply more stuff to know