what? i'm hungry
#gtfo-chat
burnt flume
rose nova
no- like- imagine occlusion level where u split up and the waves are smaller [if they worked], and each duo has to handle their shit
im not agreeing but imagine something where u all 4 are together but busy doing somethin
graceful geode
"If you're good enough, everything's soloable."
graceful geode
||"Genuinely"||
fleet kettle
what? i'm hungry
I would love to try out decent biscuits someday
rose nova
tell me to eat then goat
lost lynx
"If you're good enough, everything's soloable."
and here i am struggling with 4 players
I don't think this game is made for less than 4 players
fossil horizon
I would love to try out decent biscuits someday
With vodka?
lost lynx
graceful geode
I don't think this game is made for less than 4 players
It clearly ain't designed to be done with less than 4
As soccer wasn't designed for what Roberto Carlos pulled in that final against France
That doesn't mean that you're supposed to score freekicks from nearly midfield
junior latch
"If you're good enough, everything's soloable."
unironically just imagine getting people who look at currently some of the best players as beginners in skill
dont ever get hit, hit 100% headshots/pen and do perfect movement
theyd just solo
fleet kettle
Come to poland I found decent tako place
junior latch
As soccer wasn't designed for what Roberto Carlos pulled in that final against F...
basketball with wemby 
the fuck is that kid
graceful geode
Come to poland I found decent tako place
What if I get confused with the flag and end up in Indonesia?
Red under is Poland, right?
fleet kettle
What if I get confused with the flag and end up in Indonesia?
I was inviting Eva cause he was hungry, are you hungary too?
rose nova
im just gonna repeat myself
this game can be seen as designed for 2 players only- uplinks reactors items fog turbine etc- but its the bigger picture that shows its designed with 4 players in mind, not for the waves, not for the difficulty, just by how it is
4 tools, 4 melees, 4 individual scans on alarms, 4 levels of speed on big red scans; one person carried the turbine, one defends, one terminals if necessary, one closes doors and mines-- and so and so and so on
i need breakfast
fossil horizon
What if I get confused with the flag and end up in Indonesia?
There's no bober kurwa in Indonesia or penguins
rose nova
this is not healthy
graceful geode
I was inviting Eva cause he was hungry, are you hungary too?
flag colors are the same
lost lynx
im just gonna repeat myself
this game can be seen as designed for 2 players only...
Look, someone that understand GAME DESIGN
Thanks slendo
fleet kettle
Look, someone that understand GAME DESIGN
Well it did require a lot of tweaking to get to the point at which it is now
Still a broken mess but at least salvagable gameplay
And still made function over fashion.
rose nova
we arent talking about the fucking broken mess kMSDKM
leave the bugs- aside for a second if u will
not every gtfo convo has to end up talking about r7d1
lost lynx
not every gtfo convo has to end up talking about r7d1
Best level in the game ๐
fleet kettle
leave the bugs- aside for a second if u will
I'm talking about weapon balancing tho
rose nova
I'm talking about weapon balancing tho
ah thats fair but oh well
fossil horizon
Well it did require a lot of tweaking to get to the point at which it is now
Stop talking, you are too self confident and aggressive, next step is ban, oh wait this is a normal server sorry:(
rose nova
download vanillareloaded wee
lost lynx
download vanillareloaded wee
Is that a thing?
fleet kettle
Stop talking, you are too self confident and aggressive, next step is ban, oh wa...
Imagine bringing drama from ru server to main server lmao
rose nova
Is that a thing?
yes its by uh i forgot but its a rebalance of guns tools and melee
fossil horizon
Imagine bringing drama from ru server to main server lmao
Lmao will I get banned for that on ru?
junior latch
Come to poland I found decent tako place
uuuh tacos
lost lynx
TACOS MENTIONED
rose nova
tako is also accepted
fleet kettle
uuuh tacos
Have you tried them even?
graceful geode
I never had a taco
lost lynx
๐ฒ๐ฝ
rose nova
I never had a taco
u still need toooo
and im still behind u waitiiin im in ur walllllls
junior latch
Have you tried them even?
tacos are goated
fleet kettle
Birria tacos are soo soo good
rose nova
tacos are goated
there be goat tacos
lost lynx
grab a tortilla, fold it and put anything in between
it doesnt need to be anything fancy
beans or meat can work
graceful geode
grab a tortilla, fold it and put anything in between
I guess it's like a Piadina more or less
I once did one with onion, red bell peppers and chicken
burnt flume
my girlfriend wants to get me into tacos
i however want to find an actually tasty curry again
burnt flume
maybe we meet in the middle and get curry tacos
mellow hedge
i made butter chicken last week
fleet kettle
maybe we meet in the middle and get curry tacos
I had decent ramen with katsu sando smothered in curry
That was something
modern coral
I think I can sum "GTFO is a duo game" up in a simple way here.
When you make the jump from solo to duo, it opens up fundamentally new ways of engaging w/ the game's encounters that you wouldn't have access to as a solo.
When you make the jump from duo to quad, it does not have the same effect of dramatically changing what you can do in the game. Corrupted uplinks are the only encounter type where there is a dramatic change in how you can play, plus some strat differences like longer daisy chains and such.
This is a significant difference from modded encounters where a 2:2 split has tanks in the wave hold. There, the jump from 2-man to 4-man is the same as the solo to duo jump, just for the split parts of the team. That is what I would expect of content that is "for quads," and is what I mean by vanilla not making the most of cooperative elements.
junior latch
i however want to find an actually tasty curry again
THAT i feel you on
the curre place ive been going to somehow made it less spicy and tasty 
fossil horizon
Make it urself
graceful geode
I had Samosa when I went to London aeons ago
modern coral
.
What am I going to say
What word do you think I'd take issue w/
If I had to pick just one word
lost lynx
If I had to pick just one word
its not worth to keep this convo going honestly
you do your things
i do mine
lost lynx
go roll nymph
I dont play AK anymore
modern coral
Clearly you are not paying attention.
lost lynx
grind killed me
modern coral
Unlucky
fleet kettle
grind killed me
What grind lmao xd?
lost lynx
What grind lmao xd?
rocks
rose nova
I think I can sum "GTFO is a duo game" up in a simple way here.
When you make t...
i think splits are extremely- i dont wanna come back to difficulty- but just from how the game is designed from the very dust, its incredibly hard and punishing
but that aside i still think that even if the most possiibilities that opens are one more person to defend or mine the entrances, thats still valuable not only from a gameplay but even a deisgn standpoint
there is a channel in youtube that has been playing 3 people for a very long time as newies- and rn they are in r2d2, and u could just tell they needed a fourth or even a bot badly
rose nova
like the dimension of what a player adds might not be big to you anymore but it is big in the grand scheme of players
lost lynx
GTFO is designeed for 4 players
AT MOST 3 players and one bot
anything less
and the game just shits itself on you unless you have a lot of hours
rose nova
i sort of do with there was 3 people objectives or 4 people objectives, but it is also something for D or E tiers probably
burnt flume
THAT i feel you on
the curre place ive been going to somehow made it less spicy ...
ya right, it's sad, my favourite place closed down last summer, and the other local places haven't quite managed to impress me in the same way
graceful geode
Gacha players become old, they can't keep up with grind wtf
What's "old" on this metric?
rose nova
as it would take a lot of- a lot of difficulty up since evryone would be busy
lost lynx
What's "old" on this metric?
for you? you would be a fossil already
graceful geode
30-35 or 36-40 is old?
lost lynx
if he called me old
sleepo would be dust already
fossil horizon
What's "old" on this metric?
Idk in modern society I think it would be like 18 is a grand pa
graceful geode
Idk in modern society I think it would be like 18 is a grand pa
modern society has atomized the self and completely made everyone forget humbleness and the sane passage of time
Technology not only deprived us of memory, but also of forgetting and moving on
You, I and anyone else can pull up full damn videos in 1080p or something happened 10 years ago
or even more
fossil horizon
You, I and anyone else can pull up full damn videos in 1080p or something happen...
We seen 720 as hd mark
graceful geode
the sense of self gets distorted in such an environment that doesn't favour the future since the past is always close and the present is enclosed into your own, singular, point of view
lost lynx
you sound like my mom
rose nova
the sense of self gets distorted in such an environment that doesn't favour the ...
yesterday i saw a baall and i forgor soccers
graceful geode
you're the center of the universe now and "nothing else matters"
that's why everything is going to shit
fossil horizon
I remember tape players for music 
graceful geode
I remember tape players for music <:SantonianWhatElse:813148031867158548>
Walkman? yes
junior latch
its unironically just a viewpoint on difficulty
waveclear being the job for 1 person just means that its easy if you are skilled enough
waveclear and boss clear can also easily be argued to be the job for 1 person. What actually stops you from doing it. Difficulty
which loops back to waveclear being the job for 1 person. Its not, the extreme majority will need multiple people for it
the only thing where gtfo as a "2 player game" remotely works is mechanics forcing you (or trying to) actively make you split/do multiple things at the same time
-> see initiate sequence or r4e1 split for example
but theres a fucking obvious reason the game doesnt force you into 4 way splits (enemy pathing issues aside). If it was the case, youd need 4 people to do everything right, which is a far worse experience
GTFO on a difficulty level is clearly a 4 player game and design choices promote doing 3-4 different things at the same time
You can do with less, but that is based on skill -> which makes the game easier since you are better -> it becomes less difficult FOR the player that skilled
lost lynx
not the fish
rose nova
i had to
rose nova
fish react this streamer
lost lynx
huh
rose nova
soundboard
lost lynx
since when can you send sounds to chat
shut vapor
I'm cooked. that interview was so bad
lost lynx
I'm cooked. that interview was so bad
dw hallowed quad
you will get the job hallowed quad
i trust in you hallowed quad
shut vapor
for I am Hallowed Quad ๐
dude they asked me "some people are not following the new safety rules, as a member of the safety team what do you do" and I responded "pester them until they actually start following them" ๐
junior latch
Punish them with 50 lashes
lost lynx
dude they asked me "some people are not following the new safety rules, as a me...
i mean
its not a bad answer
shut vapor
lost lynx
but there is definitely a thousand other things you could have said instead
shut vapor
There is no compromising on safety for nuclear power plants
shut vapor
but there is definitely a thousand other things you could have said instead
what would you have said
lost lynx
what would you have said
throw them to the dogs
daring ginkgo
mr. burns mentality
shut vapor
lost lynx
There is no compromising on safety for nuclear power plants
oh
its a nuclear plant
use them as nuclear fuel or something
idk
modern coral
i think splits are extremely- i dont wanna come back to difficulty- but just fro...
The needing a 4th point is not what I am talking about though, and considering I am being told that I am just talking about difficulty, R2D2 seems like an example where the difference is purely difficulty, how you play is not fundamentally different, the waves are just really hard with only 3 or 2.
And I think there are real counterexamples, like R7E1 code 3 tank or tool loadouts, but it is still much less than what the game is capable of requiring from cooperative play.
modern coral
its unironically just a viewpoint on difficulty
waveclear being the job for 1 p...
You can solo tanks, but it's not true that solo has access to all of the play patterns of duo. You do not have the option to trade tank aggro solo, but you do in duo, meanwhile quad doesn't get unique strategies for tanks that duo doesn't unless additional factors are added in (like a 2:2)
And again, it's annoying to be accused of talking about mere difficulty, followed by talk of how GTFO's cooperation is 4-man-centric because duo is hard.
It's not consequential if duo is hard, because difficulty isn't what's at stake, it's about play patterns.
Also, also, I think it's probably not even true that any 2:2 splits are designed as such, as opposed to being designed as splits generally. Could be wrong, but I doubt the devs would intend to exclude 1:3 or 3:1 splits, the intention is just that you split up, which only takes 2 players to do.
It is just very different in character for a split to have one end of it clearly want you to have two people on it by virtue of there being tanks, cscouts no foam, etc.
Again, R7D2, R7E1, and corrupted uplinks are some of the only counter-examples that come to mind where you'll encounter a cooperative mechanic on top of a split.
hasty bobcat
the wall of text
junior latch
Gtfo is a 4 player game which is focused on difficulty, but which mechanics can be reasonably beat by 2 players if these are good enough
If mechanics forced 4 players then youd run into issues such as bots not being sensible, difficulty either being too easy or too hard (if 4 split works correctly) for the intended experience
Gtfo simply isnt a 2 player game
modern coral
Gtfo is a 4 player game which is focused on difficulty, but which mechanics can ...
This is just my point.
junior latch
Then you worded it really badly at times
modern coral
If only I'd explained it multiple time before now
Vanilla doesn't force 4 players in even a soft sense, it doesn't fully invest in cooperative elements beyond being at leadt duo.
The extra 2 players are to make the game easier
Quad is purely for balancing difficulty (outside of the mentioned counter-examples)
hasty bobcat
ray i don't think we'd have more than 100-200 ppl who actually finished the game at this rate
maybe even lower
hasty bobcat
it's too difficult for an average person
junior latch
ray i don't think we'd have more than 100-200 ppl who actually finished the game...
probably more tbh
wait couldnt we check steam achievements for this?
hasty bobcat
no idea
modern coral
I was never talking about a difference in difficulty between solo and duo and quad
lost lynx
wait couldnt we check steam achievements for this?
Yeah but it only counts from Dec 2023 to now
So it's not acurrate
hasty bobcat
So it's not acurrate
i mean didn't r8 came out at that time
modern coral
But there is a major difference between how you can approach the game as a duo vs. solo that is not shared when jumping from duo to quad
lost lynx
i mean didn't r8 came out at that time
Yes
But i don't think even half of the players that played GTFO before came back for R8
hasty bobcat
But there is a major difference between how you can approach the game as a duo v...
i think in devs mind a lot of stuff u can actually do as one person they want u to use more ppl
modern coral
While modded content can and does make use of the fact that quads can do things that duos can't
junior latch
Yeah but it only counts from Dec 2023 to now
Wellโฆ yea?
Its who beat the game
lost lynx
What about those players that completed everything else but didnt came back for R8 or after
Where are their stats?
hasty bobcat
i don't think anyone would play this game if it'd be as hard as samdown
to make quad actually the meta
silver spade
I would play it if it was like Samdown
hasty bobcat
u are literally sam
silver spade
Hey look, the guns are actually fun to use then
mellow hedge
you wouldn't originally play the game
real monolith
Gtfo is a bad game when will they make gtfo 2 and make it solo only
mellow hedge
90% of people wouldnt
hasty bobcat
Hey look, the guns are actually fun to use then
it's not about that
imagine ur first mission is not r1a1
lost lynx
As a newbie i wouldnt even try GTFO if it was like that
lost lynx
Most likely Eva wouldnt have, me, Sky
junior latch
90% of people wouldnt
10% is generous
mellow hedge
they should just add mod support
junior latch
^
modern coral
Vanilla could have actual F-tiers, it's just not their priority.
hasty bobcat
Vanilla could have actual F-tiers, it's just not their priority.
it wouldn't be an actual F tier tho
modern coral
I'm not making any normative claims here, just stating that vanilla has a lot of duo-centric elements to it.
modern coral
it wouldn't be an actual F tier tho
I think a lot of ways modded pushes difficulty could count as F-tier in vanilla, simply because the range of E-tiers isn't pushing the envelope that that much
hasty bobcat
for the games standards it would be
i mean yeah
but F tier in my mind is aberration type beat
and it wouldn't be even close to that
mellow hedge
samdown glazer
lost lynx
but F tier in my mind is aberration type beat
how so
mellow hedge
is t1-c1 a c tier?
hasty bobcat
is t1-c1 a c tier?
hell nah
mellow hedge
in actual gtfo it would be an e tier
modern coral
but F tier in my mind is aberration type beat
You're thinking G-tier ๐
mellow hedge
L tier actually
modern coral
Even further beyond
hasty bobcat
You're thinking G-tier ๐
hanidown goes hard !!
junior latch
over9000
mellow hedge
hanidown goes hard !!
the crowd goes mild
hasty bobcat
yup
hoary crescent
skydown when
hasty bobcat
hell nah
hoary crescent
cutedown
hasty bobcat
that shi is a time sink ๐
hoary crescent
all enemies are rainbow coloured
lost lynx
all enemies are rainbow coloured
gay?
hoary crescent
samdown with me and nickle @hasty bobcat
hasty bobcat
samdown with me and nickle <@415225476131323915>
i'm not playing trespass
upper loom
i'm not playing trespass
we're not playing trespass
hoary crescent
i'm not playing trespass
nah its just c2
upper loom
dw
upper loom
first half is just ๐
dude
hoary crescent
alr fair
hasty bobcat
i'm not meleeing error
hasty bobcat
sure ig
hoary crescent
you can go and hug the chargers
hoary crescent
yeah we don't know the level so carry
hoary crescent
that's more than enough
hasty bobcat
sure ig i could play
hasty bobcat
๐
hoary crescent
sounds like we're about to torture you
hasty bobcat
c2 and d3 is a torture
hoary crescent
pain
mellow hedge
its the one with r5c3 room
modern coral
yeah
mellow hedge
breathe is fun
hasty bobcat
from c's and d's
brittle schooner
in actual gtfo it would be an e tier
speaking of, how would u rate samdown e tiers for vanilla
mellow hedge
as in?
brittle schooner
tier wise, granted we dont have f/g in vanilla but just give ur best guess
im just curious what other people think
mellow hedge
uhhhhhhhh e1 is prob like high f tier, e2 is mid f tier although i havent played updated version and e3 is like low g
its hard to say tho
but id say e2 is easiest and e3 is hardest
hasty bobcat
t3?
mellow hedge
yeah cant really rate levels bc theres nothing to go off of in vanilla
brittle schooner
uhhhhhhhh e1 is prob like high f tier, e2 is mid f tier although i havent played...
i see i see
brittle schooner
yeah cant really rate levels bc theres nothing to go off of in vanilla
thats why i said just give ur best guess, wasnt looking for accurate rating or anything so no worries
mellow hedge
i can rank them tho
brittle schooner
<@993449014446002227> i got taken
who took u sus
brittle schooner
i can rank them tho
sure go for it if u dont mind
hasty bobcat
thanos did
brittle schooner
i havent played that much samdown yet
hasty bobcat
i can rank them tho
wait did u beat chrysalis
brittle schooner
so i cant give an accurate judgement
mellow hedge
wait did u beat chrysalis
yeah
brittle schooner
thanos did
thats crazy, for abberation?
mellow hedge
and access is just f1 ig
na
hasty bobcat
nah
brittle schooner
when are we playing more samdown sky
hasty bobcat
idk
mellow hedge
ive only done c2 and d2 in access
hasty bobcat
when are we playing more samdown sky
one day
hasty bobcat
ive only done c2 and d2 in access
gotta get back on the grind
brittle schooner
xd
hasty bobcat
is it excavation
brittle schooner
is there even any lvl thats accurate to vanilla tiering in samdown?
mellow hedge
is it excavation
yeah
hasty bobcat
oh hell nah bro that shi ๐
mellow hedge
is there even any lvl thats accurate to vanilla tiering in samdown?
closest you get is t3-e2
hoary crescent
<@993449014446002227> i got taken
F
mellow hedge
oh hell nah bro that shi ๐
the t scan is pretty hard and the ending is pretty crazy
hasty bobcat
imagine making it to ending ๐
i made it past sec once and that's it
haven't played in a while
brittle schooner
closest you get is t3-e2
hmm i think i played that one, what was it called again i only remember the names
hasty bobcat
hmm i think i played that one, what was it called again i only remember the name...
deadline
so free
actual r6c3
mellow hedge
i made it past sec once and that's it
its only main iirc?
mellow hedge
oh
hasty bobcat
it's been a few months
mellow hedge
yeah it has sec
hasty bobcat
oh that one i only saw a bit, but ya i remember it didnt look 2 bad
u literally beat it
wtf
LMAO
brittle schooner
apparently
brittle schooner
idk man my brain malfunctions sometimes
hasty bobcat
figured
brittle schooner
actually scratch that
alot of the times
i sometimes look back at the stuff i do in replay and cant help but think "why the fuck did i do that" lmao
mellow hedge
i remember playing deadline thunderdone the first time and thinking "damn this shit hard" then going back and it being kinda free
brittle schooner
gettin better at the game feels nice
mellow hedge
yo can people visit my farm and get rid of this fuck@ss tractor
upper loom
yo can people visit my farm and get rid of this fuck@ss tractor
yeah
junior latch
@modern coral R6C3 doesnt have a bulkhead key in sec right?
i havent done that level in a while ngl
junior latch
No prior zone in A3, A2 is nonsplit bulkhead
oh was it specified to be a zone?
shut vapor
oh was it specified to be a zone?
Spawn side refers to the collection of zones leading up to that Hub zone from leading from spawn
junior latch
also R4A1 doesnt work, theres no key up north with main east
shut vapor
(simply didn't have enough space to draw the entire map)
modern coral
if hub can be one zone with at least three rooms and key can spawn forward it could open more possibilities
junior latch
same for R8B1
shut vapor
same for R8B1
It's not R8, I drew this in 2022
junior latch
I was just answering rays thoughts for it
modern coral
Abstraction means directions aren't considered
point being there aren't any real matches
Those are the only 3 options assuming green doors are sec doors
junior latch
wtf did you draw @shut vapor
shut vapor
Thats what I wanna know
junior latch
honestly it just seems like flipped R6B2
fossil horizon
Idk
junior latch
cuz R6B2 is easily the best fit
modern coral
I think it is most likely a wrong R6B2 map
shut vapor
i don't believe I drew basic doors, only sec doors
fossil horizon
Maybe he was drunk
junior latch
pink as bulkhead doors
shut vapor
ye
A mission where you go into a further zone for a bulkhead key to then choose main or secondary in a previous zone
modern coral
Because R4A3 and R8B1 seem exceedingly unlikely
fossil horizon
And it's 2 years ago
junior latch
R4A3 has the direction but it would ignore all the actual room layouts
also that ya
shut vapor
don't remember ๐
junior latch
2021 dec to 2022 dec is R6 and R7
fossil horizon
Wtf file date creation?
junior latch
so unlikely 2 years ago is ALT rundowns
or rather
theres basically a 0% chanec its a R4/R5 one
shut vapor
Wtf file date creation?
I deleted the OG image without thinking too much 
modern coral
Pay for data recovery rn
fossil horizon
Yep
shut vapor
I believe it wasn't R6B2, looking at the actual map
modern coral
Do you know the spot in R6B2 tho?
shut vapor
I looked at the bulkhead terminal zone and I'm convinced it wasn't that
junior latch
bulkhead terminal 
fossil horizon
R7B3 but quad was drunk and miscreated image in mind?
shut vapor
We will never know, I'm looking through my old posts
fossil horizon
Bruh
shut vapor
LMAOOOO @modern coral you hit the nail on the head
#gtfo-media message
modern coral
EZ
shut vapor
could've sworn I drew it correctly on a compass but I guess I didn't ๐
shut vapor
ong
kindred escarp
i have failed, again
this time i used a burst sentry outside the door with a cfoam grenade to reinforce it, scan went fine again but the fight against the remaining wave of 9 or so enemies didn't go as planned
mellow hedge
pretty much rule of thumb is to not close doors to your room unless you have a mine
kindred escarp
just let them trickle in so i can kill em 1 by 1 instead of dealing with a wave?
junior latch
yes
kindred escarp
good idea, that cfoam would have helped with that strat aswell
junior latch
funnily enough iirc this is actually in the 3rd guide I sent 
kindred escarp
wait you sent a third?
junior latch
(or rather not to do it how you did)
kindred escarp
or is it the one you mentioned that had spoilers?
mellow hedge
eva you wanna see my loadout when i first solo'd r1a1?
junior latch
the 3 I send didnt have real spoilers
kindred escarp
oh i see theres a third one
junior latch
@kindred escarp #gtfo-related-questions message
kindred escarp
i missed it
kindred escarp
i'm gonna study up some more then go test it out again
mellow hedge
eva you wanna see my loadout when i first solo'd r1a1?
damn i got ghosted
shut vapor
damn i got ghosted
sure I wanna see :D
upper loom
<@165048919221338112> you are disgusting
You're such a hater
mellow hedge
i also used shotgun sentry on my r1b1 solo
lost lynx
eva you wanna see my loadout when i first solo'd r1a1?
No
junior latch
i also used shotgun sentry on my r1b1 solo
@upper loom 
junior latch
jokes aside I obviously am not a Frosty hater lol
lost lynx
What were you cooking
junior latch
I litteraly speedrun with this elementary school zoomer
gotta stay in touch with the youth ya know?
lost lynx
Frosty is a zoomer?
burnt flume
i found it, my first r1a1 solo #gtfo-media message
lost lynx
Based loadout
latent palm
Frosty is a zoomer?
now u know>?
mellow hedge
What were you cooking
i had like max 50 hours
and didnt pub
only played with friends
safe knoll
Is there anyone interested to take a noob under his wings?
worthy flicker
i found it, my first r1a1 solo https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/5...
What a loadout
lost lynx
now u know>?
Shut up grandpa
latent palm
Shut up grandpa
hey im not that old
lost lynx
hey im not that old
Doubt
mellow hedge
thats kinda gay
pine root
No your gay
lost lynx
i love gay people
hot
mellow hedge
TRUE
lost lynx
I actually love when people that don't know much about games make a tier list
Really interesting to see
Choke mod in A is funny tho
hoary crescent
cause choke mod sounds fucking amazing
rose nova
it feels nice
lost lynx
<@&408548765599793173>
blissful dome
avg
burnt flume
damn i always miss it
mellow hedge
analog flicker
honest parrot
@open hornet Kind of missed the crowd of people that was here during the sale, so it might be harder to find new people to get together with
You trying to get a group together to run through the game from R1? Or just newer content?
vapid ember
Hello, do you guys know by any chance if there's a French community and discord server for this game ?
noble rose
francais
noble rose
le pain est si bon
sharp owl
Jugger feeler
shut vapor
Jugger feeler
big jugger
analog flicker
Lil Jugger
sharp owl
Big black jugger
turbid stone
Just beaten R2D2..... feeling good.... YIPPIEEE
shut vapor
Just beaten R2D2..... feeling good.... *YIPPIEEE*
onwards into R2E1
lost lynx
Just beaten R2D2..... feeling good.... *YIPPIEEE*
yipeeee
the worst is about to start
enjoy
turbid stone
the worst is about to start
Oh nyo....
We're gonna check out R2E1, but I assume we're not gonna beat it any time soon qwq
So might just skip to R3
analog flicker
yeah
peak ridge
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lost lynx
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.t lfg
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mental totem
thin nymph
is A2 password changed?
proper iron
its O not 0
thin nymph
oh
naive rover
So might just skip to R3
The entirety of R3 is easier in my opinion.
alpine dome
We're gonna check out R2E1, but I assume we're not gonna beat it any time soon q...
Let us know if you even make it past the first two rooms
naive rover
Does anyone have tips on R5C1? I think we have it down but just confirming. On the way back from completing secondary is it overly difficult to sprint through the two hub zones on the way back to extraction? Or should we be shooting it out and then running?
fringe garden
i mean you're not going to run through them without waking
naive rover
Also, for any of you smart nerd out there, why the hell does the Uplink in Zone 113 spawn enemies only one room away? That giant room in the back has enemies spawning like 2 feet from the door.
naive rover
i mean you're not going to run through them without waking
Well obviously I know that
proper iron
the error is only 2 giant shadown per wave. and it so slow you can either memorize path that you can run with out waking anything or quick clear room
naive rover
But won't the shadow bigs wake them anyways?
fringe garden
Also, for any of you smart nerd out there, why the hell does the Uplink in Zone ...
uplinks spawns are always in same zone as uplink
that room is adjacent to all rooms in zone so enemies are forced to spawn 1 away
mellow hedge
Also, for any of you smart nerd out there, why the hell does the Uplink in Zone ...
Uplinks can only spawn enemies in the zone the uplink is in
fringe garden
But won't the shadow bigs wake them anyways?
i mean probably
the answer is unfortunately to just take scattergun and run and gun through the zones
proper iron
if you fast enough it not
mellow hedge
But won't the shadow bigs wake them anyways?
Memorise a path back where theres little to no giants
naive rover
Uplinks can only spawn enemies in the zone the uplink is in
I know this but why doesn't it spawn them in the first room right next to the zone door?
mellow hedge
I know this but why doesn't it spawn them in the first room right next to the zo...
It would
just rng
the strat tho is to have someone spawn block in the big room
fringe garden
uplinks spawns are always in same zone as uplink
that room is adjacent to all ro...
.
naive rover
During the uplink? Where would that makethem do? Just aggro on the guy in the Hub room?
turbid stone
Let us know if you even make it past the first two rooms
cries today evening I'll let you know if we even play TwT
fringe garden
During the uplink? Where would that makethem do? Just aggro on the guy in the Hu...
enemies spawn 2 rooms away if possible, then 1 room away if possible
naive rover
.
I guess I didn't realize that every room in the zone is connected to the uplink room.
fringe garden
so by spawnblocking big room you're forcing them to spawn in the other rooms that are neither big room nor terminal room
naive rover
Oh you meant that big back room. My bad.
I guess that is smart.
The first time we had the Uplink spawn in there today we got obliterated. We thought because that was 1 room away they couldn't spawn there at all.
naive rover
the answer is unfortunately to just take scattergun and run and gun through the ...
We have one Scatter on the team because it deletes the mother in Secondary. I was thinking the same thing that if we just run in and insta kill as much as we can in the hub room while we make our way back that would probably be our safest option.
fringe garden
i think triple scatter + 1 burst cannon is probably the play tbh
burst cannon is just for shitting on the shadow giants from a safe distance at extraction scan
sactters for killing everything on path when getting there
proper iron
there're 2 cocoon rooms i recommend kill all the room that close to bulkhead door and then just run pass the first cocoon room
proper iron
pdw+hel rifle/gun go hard ngl
rose nova
like takin 3 foam launchers
fringe garden
naw if taking pdw angle sniper all the way
at least if you can do the quickswap tech
naive rover
On our best run so far we made it into the second hub room and woke it while a shadow big came in. bot died instantly, we regrouped at bridge where ShasXV died, I had MG so I literally can't stop the nine bigs coming in so I died trying to do something, but Theocog ran all the way back to Extraction but obviously died because long scan and not enough ammo.
proper iron
at least if you can do the quickswap tech
that the point
rose nova
yeah an mg is probs not the play for this level
there's like barely any places to really- make it shine
naive rover
We are doing scatter, mg, and sniper for specials. MG feels useful for the shadow uplink which is our biggest struggle right now
rose nova
the uplinks have chargers, the rooms have bigs and the S scans u could take something different
oh i would- change that sniper
sniper is not good regardless of anything
fringe garden
the mg is infinitely worse than sniper
rose nova
that's funny
naive rover
The Uplink spawns like 1 charger per wave. I get little overpen shots
fringe garden
at least if they can play sniper on it
rose nova
well even so still worth to change the sniper for just another scattergun or a hel weapon
naive rover
I was using Hel rifle before but I feel like it's only helping me in the hub rooms
rose nova
like it's not worth at all
proper iron
even if not pen hel weapon still good
rose nova
I was using Hel rifle before but I feel like it's only helping me in the hub roo...
hel gun?
fringe garden
We are doing scatter, mg, and sniper for specials. MG feels useful for the shado...
isn't that the one in z117
naive rover
isn't that the one in z117
No Z117 is part of the main objective.
2nd Main uplink can spawn there though instead of Z118 sometimes.
fringe garden
i have vague memories of it being shadows but was a while back i played it
rose nova
only in sec there's shadows
naive rover
The Secondary obj is shadows
rose nova
or- well the end of main
naive rover
Whole zone is shadow sleepers, error alarm is 4 shadow sleepers, then there's the mother in secondary
rose nova
the funny
thick temple
Uplinks can only spawn enemies in the zone the uplink is in
it honestly annoys me that they made this rule given that it's just a datablock value that they can flip on or off whenever they want per uplink
naive rover
Why switch sniper though?
Our guy doing uplink does sniper so He's not shooting much anyways
rose nova
cuz sniper is like useless if u could just have a scattergun in this mission
is not gonna help with shadow giants, not with the uplinks, not with the S scans
maybe with the bigs on the hubs
and not with the scouts cuz there's 30 guns that can kill them too
fringe garden
pdw + sniper is fine if they can hit the hybrids and quickswap the shadow giants
naive rover
our Sniper guy is very good at headshots on Bigs. He's also bio guy and objective so he's far from us most of the time playing support I guess you could say?
Something with more ammo would probably be good for Extraction though
Unless like you said double scatter would just eliminate the need to worry about the hub rooms on the way back
rose nova
i mean even if they hits bigs, they could just have something more flexible for the parts that they are shootin on
cuz snipers just gonna lag behind on anything that isn't a normal big or a hybrid
while a scattergun remains useful in ANY combat
naive rover
That's true
fringe garden
i think triple scatter + 1 burst cannon is probably the play tbh
.
throw sawed off + hel shotty
and everything is just dead
rose nova
i guess if u just rely on mains like crazy but 3 scatterguns for me is sort of funny
i am proposing 2 cuz one is a sniper
like they are the same job
naive rover
one is also a bot so we are 3 manning this
rose nova
well- the bot can have ur mg KDMSKD
proper iron
give bot bio problem solve
rose nova
tbh r5c1 is the one level of give it a sentry maybe
naive rover
We have double burst sentry, bio, and mine
rose nova
with my skill when i completed it, i would've preferred havin info on the sleeping enemies
naive rover
me and bot have sentry
fringe garden
We have double burst sentry, bio, and mine
cfoam
rose nova
yeah i would- take foam
might not help for the S scans much
but for the uplink it'll carry
fringe garden
1 of the main uplinks is permafoamable
rose nova
isn't it all 3?
naive rover
We only have problems doing the shadow uplink in secondary
proper iron
2 main uplink is guarantee
fringe garden
yeah and that too has a decent chance of being permafoamable
naive rover
Well the Z113 uplink kinda sucks but like we can beat that
upbeat yacht
like they are the same job
the sniper's job is to be cool imho
naive rover
Z112 is baby mode compared to shadow uplink though
rose nova
the sniper's job is to be cool imho
be cool with something else it is not that hard kfmskd
rose nova
Z112 is baby mode compared to shadow uplink though
k think by staying in the big room u can sort of permafoam it- it's been a while since i played it
thick temple
nah sniper is quintissential cool factor
there's a whole game series about specifically being a solo sniper bro
upbeat yacht
be cool with something else it is not that hard kfmskd
it's not the same thing๐ฅฒ
proper iron
if gonna pick sniper team must make sure they can hold small wave by just 3 or less which is not that hard
rose nova
jesus christ i forgot the sec uplink is tencodes
naive rover
if gonna pick sniper team must make sure they can hold small wave by just 3 or l...
Yeah sniper guy literally doesn't need to do anything on the two Main uplinks
naive rover
jesus christ i forgot the sec uplink is _tencodes_
It's so fucking long
proper iron
then where is the problem
fringe garden
you cleared r4c1 so i don't see what the problem is
naive rover
And then the ping on them doesn't last nearly as long as normal enemies either so we lose track of the shadows constantly
fringe garden
bot bio tracker?
proper iron
if bring sniper is easy on early game. but hard on late game. you can change strat to be hard at first like bring some thermal or others so you can get easy at late game
naive rover
bot bio tracker?
Yeah you got me on that one for sure
proper iron
unpopular opinion 2 bios
rose nova
yes in fact i do not agree
fringe garden
nah i was considering suggesting double bio cfoam mine
naive rover
unpopular opinion 2 bios
Double bio so you can keep constant ping and not worry about cooldown?
rose nova
bot pings should be enough- and if u really wanna see sleeping enemies then i guess u can
proper iron
yes if the problem is you cant see shadow
fringe garden
ig for sec if one of you can click heads pr is a fine choice too
alpine dome
yes if the problem is you cant see shadow
Thermal sights go brrrr
naive rover
I forgot about that
rose nova
ig for sec if one of you can click heads pr is a fine choice too
i mean i prefer ur pdw quick swap for that but i guess it works too
pdw burst cannon so it doesn't have to be that- precise maybe?
naive rover
I should switch to PR
proper iron
pdw+hel rifle/gun go hard ngl
my very first chat ๐ข
fringe garden
pdw quick swap is for shadow giants, pr is for the smalls during uplink
rose nova
ah i guess
fringe garden
pdw burst cannon so it doesn't have to be that- precise maybe?
with bc just use bio pings
fringe garden
big shadows don't have the ping disappear faster than normal enemies
alpine dome
I need a normal gun. I hate PDW so much
Use high cal :)
rose nova
with bc just use bio pings
but my 10 extra damage from the burst!
proper iron
need pdw sight not bullet haha
naive rover
But PR for the Shadow Uplink would make that much easier.
naive rover
need pdw sight not bullet haha
It's true
naive rover
big shadows don't have the ping disappear faster than normal enemies
But small Shadows? I'm not worried about Big Shadows. I'm running around and can get away from them (until extraction I guess).
fringe garden
But small Shadows? I'm not worried about Big Shadows. I'm running around and can...
i was responding to pdw bc suggestion
naive rover
Yes
alpine dome
If you break there legs would they walk slower?
proper iron
so the problem with bio is just after main uplink and during sec uplink
proper iron
If you break there legs would they walk slower?
no
but you'll see giant shadow floating which is funny
fringe garden
after finish sec uplink there no shadow error anymore
pr + double scatter + bot burst cannon and bot bio tracker will solve the problems trust
especially if everyone throws sawed off in too
naive rover
you cleared r4c1 so i don't see what the problem is
Yeah I know but in that one we're constantly moving through them. We're not stuck in one place getting assaulted by an infinite conga line. I guess it's a skill issue we're having?
naive rover
so the problem with bio is just after main uplink and during sec uplink
Yeah but no shadows
Wait, uplink...
I'm thinking of C2 Pabulum. Hold on.
Wait there's still no shadows though on that.
fringe garden
c2 overload is shadows
naive rover
c2 overload is shadows
That's true
proper iron
you can keep sniper if someone in team can use quick swap tech with pdw+hel gun/rifle trust me. one person can hold uplink wave with this combo
naive rover
Sniper guy was using PR because of that at the time
fringe garden
slug pr quickswap new meta
naive rover
you can keep sniper if someone in team can use quick swap tech with pdw+hel gun/...
Provided they never miss, I'm sure
proper iron
shadow is slow there are plenty of time to aim
fringe garden
^gives solid time to line up pen
proper iron
at least easier than regular striker
naive rover
Oh your saying just use the pdw sight to see then just swap shoot
I guess that's a no brainer
I just have no brain. I am caught up now
fringe garden
honestly i really enjoy pdw + pump shotgun for holding shadows but it's far from optimal
naive rover
Well, this gives me lots to think about.
I will deliberate with the team.
Thank you all.
modern coral
Double bio w/ HEL Rifle is very strong
It's honestly a good shadow weapon, and unlike PR you're not crippled for giant rooms.
naive rover
It's honestly a good shadow weapon, and unlike PR you're not crippled for giant ...
This is a thing I was worrying about
Yeah I don't feel like we've done any better with me on MG. Figured it'd be good because I'd have more shots for the shadows during secondary uplink but I haven't killed more than with Hel Rifle. I've just held them long enough to reload I guess? It doesn't matter though because I can't see what I'm doing and keep missing so I'll make changes centered around sight like you guys mentioned.
Guess that should have been an easy call but I we're stuck in our ways. The harder levels with weirder enemies is certainly forcing us to try new things.
thick temple
nah fuck the haters use whatever you want gun rankings are a scam by big-vet to reinforce their ideals
proper iron
r5c1 teach me about shoot to kill not just to stagger
the problem with mg is you cant really do anything if all you do is shoot like 3-4 bullets then pause
fringe garden
carried hel rifle and swapped to mg for better wave clear aint no way
merry idol
ะฐะปะพั, ะฟะพะธะณัะฐั ั ะบัะพ-ัะพ ั ะพัะตั?
errant sable
naive rover
the problem with mg is you cant really do anything if all you do is shoot like 3...
No I'm for sure switching off MG.
graceful geode
No I'm for sure switching off MG.
You can get an HEL Autopistol if you really want to keep some stagger.
thick temple
another victim to the HEL propaganda ๐
graceful geode
And take a better special for dealing with bigger threats, or a Combat Shotty tbh which the only thing it doesn't have is range.
graceful geode
Ah R4C2
naive rover
no R5C1
graceful geode
Wait R4C2 doesn't have an uplink
naive rover
R4C2 has shadows in the final main zone looking for data sphere
our sniper guy used PR in that so he could help us position better for sneaking those rooms
fossil horizon
But there's a bio tracker and flashlight, why use thermals for position
naive rover
Can't ping sleeping enemies
It's mostly to see where the heads are for melee
also shadow scouts
fringe garden
just hammer and heads don't matter
graceful geode
Yeah that's one of the many reasons why you should just bring hammer
Especially at R5 where things ramp up
naive rover
My only defense now is that we were scared back then?
remember, I'm the guy with a 4 hour win time on R4C2 PE
fringe garden
being slow is fine
naive rover
We do not play like that anymore.
graceful geode
PR is fine for shadows
fringe garden
hammer is the weapon to take when scared because it kills the most easily and effectively
graceful geode
But overall, if anyone on your team isn't using hammer, he should start now.
naive rover
We have all been on hammer since R4B2
That level forced us off of spears
but it also made us realize hammer is just better at literally everything except swing distance but who cares about range when you can run?
naive rover
?
graceful geode
Super fast headshot kill fest
I need less than half a charge to onetap a striker occiput with hammer
graceful geode
people really underrating spear when it has lunge tech
Gerz, remember when I was telling about someone that kept pretending he was streaming
honest parrot
What's even the point of knife
Would you believe me if I said I use knife and spear to kill flyers?
unreal crystal
I donโt
graceful geode
Well now you do
unreal crystal
alright thanks
graceful geode
I had the same experience yesterday
unreal crystal
someone else doing it?
burnt flume
one of those things, hammer works so well that there's no reason really to use spear even with lunge
graceful geode
And was about to record it, decided not to
Since recording without another's approval is annoying
but for fucks sake
The guy went on and on
unreal crystal
were they talking to an imaginary chat or like just non stop yapping like streamers do
graceful geode
"There's 2 ahead I can see on the bio! Two is bad and is very bad news guys! Oh guys look at the lights"
burnt flume
maybe he was streaming on kick or yt
unreal crystal
yeah I get it
graceful geode
for no reason
narrating every damn single fucking thing that happened on the screen
unreal crystal
Some ppl just yap way too much
naive rover
Homie was streaming mobile format to his tik tok lol
honest parrot
It sounds like the exact oppostie of the time I got baited onto a twitch stream
honest parrot
Some ppl just yap way too much
Like me
Sometimes
unreal crystal
nah as a bio main I have like 3 call-outs
graceful geode
"It'S LeSs ThAn 3 aNd MoRe ThAn 1!"
unreal crystal
โThereโs a coupleโ โthereโs a fewโ โthereโs a lotโ
graceful geode
Yeah that's all you need
unreal crystal
Used interchangeably so you never know what i actually mean
graceful geode
Even WHERE they are is irrelevant save for specific rooms and sections you're kinda supposed to stealth and/or with shadows
unreal crystal
I mean realistically in actual serious situations I comm way more on bio but itโs still quick easy to understand call-outs
naive rover
Yeah like "guys in this direction is pretty much good enough during waves or like "still x guys on you" if you notice they looked away from something
Has worked well enough for my team at least
latent palm
if more than 6 im gonna say million
omg tonmai big fan
naive rover
Maximum communication with the least amount of words
proper iron
why
naive rover
I usually pretend I'm a bot and just sorta say what they say
"Mmmm they sound hungry don't they?"
honest parrot
that or .t bukcet
Just invades my mind
And everything will be about the bucket
On a side note, is it worth it to use sniper on sleepers if you're ridiculous off balance on ammo?
naive rover
Um... Probably not but like, how bad do you want to see that ammo get wasted when you use a pack and you have 11% primary and 86% sniper?
You know what, I changed my mind. It's worth it.
alpine dome
im not a big fan of the goverment
I'm not a big fan of the government
mellow hedge
On a side note, is it worth it to use sniper on sleepers if you're ridiculous of...
worth
fossil horizon
โThereโs a coupleโ โthereโs a fewโ โthereโs a lotโ
Where's "Guys this room can end run" call-out so someone for sure pulls it?
fossil horizon
Fr
fossil horizon
Um... Probably not but like, how bad do you want to see that ammo get wasted whe...
Just balance on smalls
Like fr, just explode their bodies and heads with that big rounds
Or destroy walls because random ninja shooter decides to aimpunch you
near stag
On a side note, is it worth it to use sniper on sleepers if you're ridiculous of...
imho if you take sniper you shouldnt use much of your primary, only for cover fire and if you are about to get licked
to avoid such situations from happening at the first place
honest parrot
so take slug shotgun?
near stag
nah take machine piss and magdump into everyone
unreal crystal
On a side note, is it worth it to use sniper on sleepers if you're ridiculous of...
Only if you really need to balance yeah
uu should never be spamming that shit tho
shoutout to my favourite sniper player
who makes a 5 use ammo vanish in seconds WITH supply efficiency
burnt flume
"goku are you sniping?"
can't remember the last time I can remember someone actually taking sniper, think it was mumei/velvett on r4e1 months ago
junior latch
uplinks spawns are always in same zone as uplink
that room is adjacent to all ro...
with 2 exceptions (and obviously corrupted uplinks work differently too)
junior latch
We are doing scatter, mg, and sniper for specials. MG feels useful for the shado...
permafoam (spawn block down south) the 1 door they want to take
just gotta have foam launcher and 1-2 big tool packs and its free
junior latch
I was using Hel rifle before but I feel like it's only helping me in the hub roo...
huh why?
junior latch
it's not top tier but it holds its own easily
its litteraly a worse smg if you ignore the thermal utility
raven bramble
ััััะบะธะต ัะธะผั ะตััั?
fossil horizon
ััััะบะธะต ัะธะผั ะตััั?
No
near stag
its litteraly a worse smg if you ignore the thermal utility
havent played that much with smg, but PDW has great hipfire accuracy doesnt it?
daring ginkgo
ััััะบะธะต ัะธะผั ะตััั?
latent palm
havent played that much with smg, but PDW has great hipfire accuracy doesnt it?
Hell no
fringe garden
its litteraly a worse smg if you ignore the thermal utility
eva
smg has higher mag size and better precision damage and that's the end of the stats it does better than pdw
pdw has higher dmg per bulled dps and better reload
latent palm
smg has higher mag size and better precision damage and that's the end of the st...
Pdw nerfs 
I remember it having more dmg than smg before this
fringe garden
smg has lower damage
latent palm
3.2/bullet?
fringe garden
but higher precision damage
latent palm
And then kicked into 2.8?
fringe garden
smg has higher mag size and better precision damage and that's the end of the st...
oh falloff too i guess but it's basically the same
junior latch
smg has higher mag size and better precision damage and that's the end of the st...
50 vs 32 mag
dmg diff is marginal
fringe garden
the mag doesn't really matter with a .8s reload
junior latch
they are basically the same
smg actually plays better
but pdw has thermal which can be a strong upside
latent palm
50 vs 32 mag
dmg diff is marginal
I love how you say this but it uwont do anything to chargers
junior latch
I love how you say this but it uwont do anything to chargers
neither do???
latent palm
neither do???
Ye
They both suck towards charger
So sad
But wait
Pdw has higher fire rate yea?
latent palm
Da
I was sayin
If i could mag dump faster
Dont that mean anything thats gonna get staggered
Keeps my aim straight into them still
Cause i hate how shadows buffers my aim when they get their limbs blown off
honest parrot
Glad to see r3c1 is still a pain in the ass sometimes
#gtfo-media message
fossil horizon
I need more copypasta so I can freely talk with people about GTFO just using them
shut vapor
I need more copypasta so I can freely talk with people about GTFO just using the...
The Breach: this level broke me
fossil horizon
The Breach: this level broke me
What the letters?
shut vapor
What the gtfo
honest parrot
I was worried you'd say sigma
fossil horizon
I was worried you'd say sigma
What da sigma
fossil horizon
The Breach: this level broke me
15 class alarm? 12 class alarm? SCLEUPPE?
mellow hedge
I need more copypasta so I can freely talk with people about GTFO just using the...
Hange
My one
burnt flume
Addressing the haters
perpetually hating on you until you get the sub 9
mellow hedge
sub 9 when i grow a second schlong
fossil horizon
You can grow it now just buy super grower in your local store
burnt flume
i'll have breasts before you get the sub 9 i swear
mellow hedge
maybe i need breasts to get the sub 9
burnt flume
i didn't get my breasts before the sub 9, you're making excuses aren't you
pastel dagger
next step in the evolution is knife
dont u wanna be the host as a knife user ideally
turbid stone
Let us know if you even make it past the first two rooms
Yeah the first couple of rooms were a bit tough, but we managed somehow, we died when my friend didn't kill the scout and we died bcuz of invisible giants :3
Ngl the 2nd try surely we're beating it B^)
honest parrot
(that's not even the hard part of the level, good luck :))
honest parrot
Till this day i still suck at plugging last cell
Every time I try I fall off a cliff or just go to the wrong floor
rose nova
looney tunes be like
daring ginkgo
new pb on r8c1, managed to clear 2/3 waves on ov sector 2 times, but rng screwed me on 3rd code both times
stark idol
Me when R8C1 spawns a tank
daring ginkgo
i am so angry at this lvl, just why there are only one terminal per zone, which can be used for Verify command, why it is not like r7d1( and loading from checkpoint never change this
rose nova
theres not only one termie per zone- these objectives work funky
when u load in from what i kno it chooses 4 5 terminals to send u to verify them
so it like chooses from the pool a selected few only
thats why repeats are common
modern coral
its litteraly a worse smg if you ignore the thermal utility
It's closer to MP as a weapon, which is bad but better than SMG
daring ginkgo
yeah and this sucks
daring ginkgo
set amount of 4 terminals, 1 on each zone and they cycle
stark idol
rose nova
same as r7d1 its just a wish of getting the same termie 3 times in a row
random how the fuck
daring ginkgo
if it was like r7d1, where you can get ANY terminals from pool of all terminals from all zones it would be 10x easier
rose nova
i- think r7d1 works the same as r8c1
junior latch
@rose nova r8c1 terms are "seed locked"
rose nova
just its less noticeable
junior latch
for the zones
mellow hedge
isnt r8c1 better tho?
daring ginkgo
this sucks so bad, for example, i can put code in time on north zone 371, so if RNG bless me, i have 50% chances instead of 25%
but so far i never got this particular terminal
r8c1 waves are so long and pretty ammo consuming
rose nova
tbh its a surprise that u can make it opening any zone i imagined it was too much time
or do u jump
daring ginkgo
and after failed attempt wave is not ending
like on r7d1
i mean after timer goes to 0
junior latch
r7d1 gives you punishment waves
rose nova
uh i think in both it ends
junior latch
but r8c1 is far more mean
rose nova
c1 just takes ages to finish
modern coral
uh i think in both it ends
R8C1 does not end
daring ginkgo
i would rather clear additional wave
rose nova
R8C1 does not end
on failing? only on winnin then?
mellow hedge
R8C1 does not end
if you fail?
mellow hedge
damn
rose nova
damn
daring ginkgo
and that 3:30 min timer