#gtfo-chat

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wooden basin
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yeah

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it's like you are playing tft and early-game you just don't wanna tunnel in but keep it general

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and leave options open

modern coral
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tft mentioned

pseudo sedge
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riot affiliated game mentioned, completely correct opinion rejected

lost lynx
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What the fuck is tft

burnt flume
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idk what i'd do if i had to worry about learning and keeping up with coding languages, but then again CS is not my wheelhouse

naive rover
burnt flume
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correct

shut vapor
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League adjacent likent

naive rover
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Whoa I know games

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I’m proud

low shell
sullen remnant
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halo

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guys whats the relevance of ping in this game?

modern coral
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Sniper melee

mellow hedge
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you play for 1k hours and get used to it

sullen remnant
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😭

mellow hedge
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and that

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where are you from?

sullen remnant
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SG

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singaperrr

mellow hedge
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dafuq is that

wooden basin
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haha

mellow hedge
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oh

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singapore

sullen remnant
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ive just bought the game 3 days ago

mellow hedge
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true

wooden basin
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same

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good game

sullen remnant
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im still at rundown 2 but i almost finished it

mellow hedge
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just either host your own lobbys so you have no ping or look for people in asia/oceania

fringe garden
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learning on client is significantly better than learning as host because it means that host feels awesome instead of client feeling awful

mellow hedge
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as an australian i have no choice

fringe garden
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common aus L

sullen remnant
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real

pulsar briar
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love it when the game decides to freeze as im getting into my secondary

sullen remnant
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aussies probably see big strikers irl everyday anyway

mellow hedge
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i see something big everyday

lost lynx
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Something big?

mellow hedge
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massive? perchance

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you know what else is massive

lost lynx
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What

mellow hedge
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embed fail

sullen remnant
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grr

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not the pregnant reactions 😭

mellow hedge
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i just made some good ass chicken

lost lynx
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chicken ass??????

sullen remnant
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😋

mellow hedge
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technically chicken boobies

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stainless steel pan GUH

sullen remnant
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pansexual????

wooden basin
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I am stuck in R2 as well and I am oce

lost lynx
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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
silk talon
lost lynx
fresh heron
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Just watch the eva short, sums it up well

silk talon
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AH no gifs suffering

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NO DONT MAKE ME PREGNANT

lost lynx
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too late

analog flicker
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Avg

lost lynx
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hello Solace eats food

analog flicker
rose nova
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garfield are u j or srs

blissful dome
jaunty pollen
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@near stagmy cat wife really die..

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She said she had a bad heart since birth
I didn't know that

vast ginkgo
near stag
rose nova
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funny idea for foam
what if as time went on it hardened
so first use of foam: a door, u spray it and it molds itself to the door, then u wait a minute or so and the door is like a normal foamed door nowadays, however, when u try refoaming it 2 3 blobs disappear per door hit so u gotta full charge it and lose a ton of tool

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still possible to permafoam but more wasteful

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then second case, putting it on the floor, when u spray it it's soft and enemies get stuck for a long time but as time goes on instead of disappearing it makes the enemies freeze for more little time

near stag
latent palm
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or make a @rose nova shaped foam chair

near stag
scenic venture
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WE FINALLY DUO’D R7C1

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MY GOD WHAT IS THAT EXTRACTION ALARM HORRIBLE

rose nova
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:D

scenic venture
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Never touching r7c1 again

mellow hedge
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you always go back

hasty bobcat
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damn my reaction was worse on e2 duo

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oh well

hoary crescent
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when e3 duo

hasty bobcat
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extirpate is not duoable

graceful geode
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extraordinary?

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ex-military?

real monolith
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Have you tried sky

unreal crystal
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Tbh if you can get past the first surge i think it’s actually duoable

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I just don’t know how you’re supposed to get past it

hasty bobcat
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exactly

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like ngl

unreal crystal
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And getting past it would require you to make sacrifices to your loadouts

hasty bobcat
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if u could autorefill ammo

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without swapping to it

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maybe

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just maybe

unreal crystal
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Like you’re gonna have to run full waveclear just for a single alarm in the level

unreal crystal
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and then it makes boss fights a lot worse later on

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So it’s not a very appealing duo to me

low shell
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e3 sounds fun

fringe garden
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(no idea how it's rebalanced)

hasty bobcat
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and also slightly slower reload iirc

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also ure not doing sawed off into double pmom double tank 💀

fringe garden
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sky it's a 15 shot vs tank and a 23 shot into pmom

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both start will full sawed off end with 0 sawed off akd tanks + pmoms are dead

junior latch
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zed when 60 babies and imperfect sawed off spread

hasty bobcat
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did u know it's not just them

fringe garden
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auto cannon clears the babies trust

hasty bobcat
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💀

fringe garden
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killing 50 babies per reload it's broken clearly

unreal crystal
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Sawed off is 4 unless he changed it in the last few days

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Slower fire rate, bit less ammo and a slower reload

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But even then im pretty sure its an autopistol angle

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you’re actually just forced to run double autopistol and waveclear to get past the first hurdle

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and who knows if that’s even possible

hasty bobcat
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idk why 3 clip is just stuck in my head for some reason

mellow hedge
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nvm beth said

unreal crystal
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what the scallop

scenic venture
mellow hedge
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what the skibidi

soft temple
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cleared R4B3 with friends
Scuffed our loadouts and we forgot to take the mine layer but we realised when we were already in the overload so we rolled with it
A pretty reasonable PE

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especially the struggle that is R4B2 PE

nimble wasp
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Guys What the best loadout for two players?

lost lynx
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But the same good guns will do the job

nimble wasp
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r2d2

lost lynx
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Are you new at GTFO? By any chance

nimble wasp
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not new but we started like 2 months ago

mellow hedge
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hel rifle is very good on r2d2

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for duo id prob do hel rifle and BC

nimble wasp
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what is BC? XD

lost lynx
pseudo sedge
junior latch
hasty bobcat
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double pen is not the way prolly

junior latch
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also, is it just you two
or you two with bots?

lost lynx
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No bots

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I'm just going to Say
You arent going to make it

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Especially if you cant survive more than 10mins each attempt

nimble wasp
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first attempt ended like 8/10 reactor so its possible i think

hasty bobcat
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I've played 3 r2d2 pubs

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and I'm sus

pine root
lost lynx
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Nvm
You can do it

pine root
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Why did you wipe on 8/10 you survived the worst wave of 7/10

lost lynx
hasty bobcat
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i am one

nimble wasp
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my teammate was afk....

hoary crescent
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their name has always been toaster

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idk what you on about

hasty bobcat
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EXACTLY

pine root
hoary crescent
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ayo

hasty bobcat
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LMAO JISH

hoary crescent
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hold up what

pine root
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idk

hoary crescent
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excuse me

hoary crescent
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can I steal that line

lost lynx
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Really @hasty bobcat ?

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🙏

hoary crescent
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or is there copyright

mellow hedge
hasty bobcat
mellow hedge
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what was ur loadouts?

lost lynx
hoary crescent
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duo'ing d2 after two months is crazy work

hasty bobcat
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fuck no

lost lynx
hasty bobcat
hasty bobcat
pine root
hoary crescent
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ty

hasty bobcat
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W

lost lynx
hasty bobcat
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oops

hoary crescent
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chat

pine root
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Any of my corny lines are free to use

hoary crescent
pine root
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I let the people drink from the fountain for free

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a man of the people

hoary crescent
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so based

lost lynx
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I want to drink from your fountain

hoary crescent
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alright that's enough gtfo chat for the day

hasty bobcat
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yeah

hoary crescent
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Hello Gamers. I am LF a team, but not just any team. I am assembling a elite squadron to take on the unknown and delve into the deepest depths of complex (im relearning the game so shitters and beginners are more than welcome). Some common interests I hold that may help build rapport and a strong altruistic team bond include: gym, devil may cry?, strong love for latinas, lying about going to the gym, guns, calamity soundtrack, keanu reeves, dark souls, and latinas. If any of these criteria resonated with you, then you may be a perfect fit for the team 🫡 R2A1

hasty bobcat
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YES

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omg someone else read it

hoary crescent
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I literally just scrolled and saw this

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how is this not a copy pasta yet

hasty bobcat
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it is now

hoary crescent
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I love that this all was for r2a1

lost lynx
# hoary crescent Hello Gamers. I am **LF** a team, but not just any team. I am assembling a elite...

Hello, I noticed you have a profile picture of a very beautiful (but also intelligent looking!) girl, and 1 am under the presumption that this girl is you? It is quite astonishing to see a female here in the GTFO LFG. I am quite popular around here in this server, so if you require and guidance, please, throw me a mention. I will assist you at any hour, day or night. And, before you are mistaken, I do not seek your hand in a romantic way; although, I am not opposed in the event you are interested in me, as many women often are. I am a man of standard, and I do not bow to just any woman that comes my way, unlike my peers... So rest assured that I will not be in the way of your gaming and socializing experience.
Consider me ur hel gun player? .. a companion, a partner, and perhaps we can enjoy some video games together some time. I see you play GTFO, and are you good at playing scattergun? I have beaten R5E1 cell skip, so I would be happy to help you clear expeditions. Platonically of course, unless you (like many others) change your mind on that. I look forward to our future together (as friends of course.)

hoary crescent
# lost lynx Hello, I noticed you have a profile picture of a very beautiful (but also intell...

Addressing the Haters:

I want to start by acknowledging the critics and those who doubted me. I’ve heard the comments, and while I respect differing opinions, I’m proud to say that despite the challenges, I’ve succeeded. Every project, every step forward, has been a testament to my hard work, determination, and the lessons learned along the way. The journey isn’t defined by the negativity, but by the results.

Thanking the Coaches and Mentors:

None of this would have been possible without the incredible support and guidance from the coaches, mentors, and those who have helped me grow. Their insights and dedication shaped my approach, and I owe a great deal of my success to their efforts. Thank you for believing in me and pushing me to be better, even when things got tough.

Standing by My Points:

While some may still disagree with certain aspects of my approach—particularly regarding poor design choices—those decisions were made with purpose and conviction. I stand by the points I made and the ideas I brought to the table. It’s all part of the learning process and pushing boundaries. No design is perfect, but that doesn’t invalidate the journey or the results.

hoary crescent
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isn't he gone?

hasty bobcat
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think so

burnt flume
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he's god he can't die

hoary crescent
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LOL

hasty bobcat
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LMAO

hoary crescent
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wait he wasn't shen god was he?

nimble wasp
burnt flume
hoary crescent
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oh wow

hasty bobcat
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LOL

lost lynx
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He left that day

hoary crescent
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my bad I didn't capitalise his name

junior latch
hasty bobcat
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F

hoary crescent
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God Shen

nimble wasp
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omneco and hanaway psb double canon turret

junior latch
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oh god

hoary crescent
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double canon turret go hard

junior latch
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not the manufacturer names

lost lynx
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omneco is hel rifle

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Hanaway i have no idea

hasty bobcat
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dmr

hoary crescent
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thsts dtr

hasty bobcat
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or dtr

fringe garden
hoary crescent
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ah mb

junior latch
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team theres multiple options for each xD

hoary crescent
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LOL

hasty bobcat
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yeah xd

junior latch
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but like
theres just simple names

lost lynx
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And thats why we don't use the manufacturer name

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Guys i love the drekker

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And buckland

hasty bobcat
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can someone explain double canon turtet

junior latch
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i love beginners saying "the buckland was good" or "im trying the techman"

hasty bobcat
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turret

hoary crescent
lost lynx
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Malatack too

onyx skiff
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me and @nimble wasp just started 3rd try on r2d2 wish us luck 💀

hoary crescent
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cause anytime I hear it I have horror in my eyes

hasty bobcat
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and HAR

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and smth else

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burst rifle?

lost lynx
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Bust rifle

hasty bobcat
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yeah

hoary crescent
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no wonder they're doing so good

hasty bobcat
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so sniper sentry???

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LMAO

hoary crescent
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idk is cannon sniper?

hasty bobcat
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kinda

hoary crescent
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NO?

lost lynx
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maybe it's shotgun sentry

hoary crescent
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WTF LOL

lost lynx
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Who knows

hoary crescent
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I would've guessed it's double burst

hasty bobcat
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u need to aim ur cannon!!

lost lynx
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im going to aim something else

hasty bobcat
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it snipes trust

hoary crescent
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brother has 24 hours in the game

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what a chad

hasty bobcat
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who

hoary crescent
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the d2 duo

hasty bobcat
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@median snow

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that one?

hoary crescent
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yes

hasty bobcat
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huge

hasty bobcat
hoary crescent
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vac ban

hasty bobcat
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LMAO

hoary crescent
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obviously aimbotting in gtfo

median snow
hasty bobcat
lost lynx
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gay

hasty bobcat
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these fishes gay

hoary crescent
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^

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gotta grind farm merge

hasty bobcat
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have anyone played webfishing

hoary crescent
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I've seen gameplay

hasty bobcat
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it's huge

hoary crescent
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you can play a guitar

hasty bobcat
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yes !!

hoary crescent
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kind of sick ngl

hasty bobcat
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i have a tune i made

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it's good trust

hoary crescent
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OK nerd

hasty bobcat
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WDYM

hoary crescent
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post it on yt you'll get more views than your e2 duo

hasty bobcat
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i didn't upload my e2 duo

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I don't have it :(

hoary crescent
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ah damn

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no proof RIPrestinpepperoni

hasty bobcat
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that's why we're redoing

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right @median snow

hoary crescent
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👻ed

median snow
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why are you doing this

hasty bobcat
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why not

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when will u hit 3 burst

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once !!

pine root
hoary crescent
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give him

hasty bobcat
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yeah

hoary crescent
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it's only fair

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let him warm you

hasty bobcat
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i need to distract him from creating an abomination

hoary crescent
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so thst you can pop

hasty bobcat
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my stomach started hating on tea

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for some reason

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it's so sad

hoary crescent
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wow

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but tea is so based..

hasty bobcat
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ik :(

hoary crescent
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imma go make some

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time to play till 3am cause no work tomorrow

pastel dagger
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what tea

hoary crescent
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does anyone watch invincible

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new season just dropped

hoary crescent
pastel dagger
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just drink either peppermint tea or masala chai

hasty bobcat
pastel dagger
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maybe camomile

hoary crescent
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probably don't have it home, only lemon

hoary crescent
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Europe

hasty bobcat
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yeah

hoary crescent
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isn't it midnight 30

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💀

hasty bobcat
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1:30 am

hoary crescent
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LMAO

hasty bobcat
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I go to bed at &

hoary crescent
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me when no sleep schedule

hasty bobcat
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5*

hoary crescent
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thats like

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beyond cooked

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that's deep fried

pastel dagger
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maybe he young nolife gamer

hasty bobcat
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ye

pastel dagger
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what do u know

hoary crescent
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thsts burnt

hasty bobcat
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I have uni tmr

pastel dagger
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bachelor?

hasty bobcat
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ya

pastel dagger
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ez shit yeah

hoary crescent
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bachelor in bonking sleepers

pastel dagger
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i played mostly drg duting uni

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i played gtfo when i was doing masters kekw

hoary crescent
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look how you turned out

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a perfect man

pastel dagger
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once during covid i forgor i have a zoom lecture so i had to finish a dive while in zoom

hoary crescent
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tbh zoom calls are the best

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I've had a couple of first time clears on zoom

pastel dagger
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idk its a bit stressful when you are doing industrial sabotage

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anyway i gotta hit the shower and drive to magic pre release

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im out

onyx skiff
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r2d2 is fucked up

lost lynx
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R2E1 is worse

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🙏

junior latch
lost lynx
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Eva

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R2D2 is one of the biggest brick walls for newbies

nimble wasp
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why not?

onyx skiff
lost lynx
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30th hardest level in the game btw

nimble wasp
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its not that hard he is just dumbass

shut vapor
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R2d2 too easy 😎

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Just play every other level first

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Then you'll be good enough

lost lynx
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Hello Hallowed Quad

onyx skiff
shut vapor
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Hello pab

shut vapor
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Where do you lose

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The waves or the searching?

onyx skiff
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we were searching and the wave started lmao

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5/10

junior latch
shut vapor
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Just gotta move fastwr

lost lynx
shut vapor
lost lynx
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Soon™

pastel dagger
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Defend in reactor

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2nd 3rd try ez

noble rose
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just tell the sleepers to put the fries in the bag

tight prairie
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can anyone tell me what the LF1 means in matchmaking?

lost lynx
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Looking for 1

tight prairie
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Oh

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Thank you very much

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very kind person you are

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👍

naive rover
naive rover
near stag
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@fresh heron why tf are you playing during my working hours? 5891catsus

near stag
scenic venture
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Cuz im going to start to duo r7d1 today

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Without the overload cuz i dont want to deal w snatchers

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That much

modern coral
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Top 4 is all E-tiers besides R2E1 and R8E1

fringe garden
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r7e1 > r2e1?

modern coral
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By a decent margin, yeah.

fringe garden
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i didn't get that impression but i suppose it's definitely a harder knowledge/strat check, execution im not convinced is any harder though

modern coral
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It's hard in weird ways

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One of very few levels where running out of resources is a real problem

unreal crystal
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What do we think abt r8d2 duo with class 9

modern coral
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and it has a fair few insta-wipes

modern coral
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But might also just be a long kite angle

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It is just one section

unreal crystal
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even without class 9 I think that ending is just fucked tbh

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I always meant to duo that level but never got around to it

modern coral
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I could see an argument for top 3 being R8E2, R5E1, R4E1, then R8D2 and R8B4 (D2 is for duo more-so), and then R7E1 and R2E1

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And that'd round out top 7 for duo

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Top 7 for quad, R8D2 goes way down, I think it's too easy to play w/ good strat knowledge.

unreal crystal
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ye

modern coral
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Idk what takes 7th place, either

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Actually, I underrate R8D2, it's just kind of hard

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Probably is still 7th

fringe garden
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with foam r2e1 duo is kinda not very hard, at least you have a solid chance of just clearing off of successful ladderfoam 2nd to last surge

modern coral
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R8B4 might be overrated, I'm not sure

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have to think about it

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I think underutilized strat is pushing out the wave hold

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to just not deal w/ fog and let scatter solo cell fetch x2, sphere carry, mom, blood door, etc.

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And maybe have a better chance at taking time w/ looting ammos

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Vanilla really does just not have that much crazy hard content

unreal crystal
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Has there ever been in between spawns in r8b4

modern coral
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If you CP, yes

scenic venture
modern coral
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Happens a lot

modern coral
scenic venture
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never said top 7, just wanna know how hard it is for a duo

modern coral
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It's hard to give a guesstimate because I'm not thinking too hard about where to place most levels

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I could see top 20, tho

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It's kind of a "be good" level

scenic venture
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well then im screwed lol

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we took like 15 attempts on r7c1 without checkpoints counted

modern coral
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Have you duo'd the rest of the game?

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Or just doing R7?

scenic venture
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Wanted to test ourselves so we jumped to r7

modern coral
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R7 is a jump from that, for sure, then.

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If you get super stuck, consider R6

scenic venture
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Only did a1, b1 and c1 so dar

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Far

modern coral
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Similar style of levels, but a touch easier

scenic venture
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Want to do all those colored levels if yk what i mean

modern coral
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ic

scenic venture
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The a2, b2 etc will do later

modern coral
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@unreal crystal R7C3 a hard duo, or meh?

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Specifically post-ammo

fringe garden
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r2d2 duo really is not too difficult. it's just a guns and shooting check that if you can't clear a lot of other stuff will be too hard, too

unreal crystal
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I don’t think it’s that hard tbh Ray

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But like

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You saw how 100% went

modern coral
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Tbf, that's shadow zone issues

scenic venture
unreal crystal
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Oh true I forgot we did it like that

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yeah it’s easy then

modern coral
scenic venture
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How tho

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Cuz its just a continuous wave after wave etc

modern coral
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It is just a shooting skill check w/ infinite ammo

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And the threats are fairly tame if you're just playing to clear

scenic venture
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So for a duo with combined under 100 hours its pretty doable

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No bots w it

modern coral
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With low experience, no, you have to be good at the game.

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Specifically the more mechanical aspects of it

scenic venture
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Im pretty decent myself, have solo’d most a tier rundowns, but yeah

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Its a level that lowkey scares me

modern coral
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If you've mostly been playing R1, R2

unreal crystal
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Probs some knowledge gaps which will make it scary then

modern coral
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This is the easier 1/3rd of the game

scenic venture
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Levels here and there

modern coral
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Hardest you've cleared, tho?

scenic venture
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Uhhh

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Either r7c1 as duo or r1d1 solo

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So idk

modern coral
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I could grant that R7C1 is around the halfway point difficulty-wise.

scenic venture
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So i have a lot more practice to do w my duo

modern coral
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yee

scenic venture
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How hard is d1, compared to c1

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Cuz we gonna start that tday

modern coral
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Not much harder imo, but it is a level that is much harder to understand at face

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Missing knowledge might make it harder to make progress in

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But once you've learned where things are, it's not much harder I think

scenic venture
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Ive watched a few vids on d1, i know kinda how the terminal thing works at the end

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The only problem is is that i have never done a rundown w birthers and tanks

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So i dont rlly know how to properly deal w them, birthers i think i have a bigger chance at than tanks

modern coral
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Mom is just kind of, one-shot her or kill babies and then kill her

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Tanks you want to learn the tongue timing, and hear the queue coming

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One player is getting damage, either slowly or rapidly depending on loadout

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Another player tries to take aggro, either peaking w/ the other player or standing in-front of the tank to keep aggro for a rush

scenic venture
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So its not that bad

modern coral
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You have to learn it

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But once you do, it gets significantly easier

near stag
#

Doing a door peekaboo with Tank is so funny imho

scenic venture
unreal crystal
#

R4E1 DOWNWARDS!!!!!!!!

modern coral
#

Otherwise, R6D3 maybe

scenic venture
#

For birthers i know r3b2 has one

modern coral
#

R4C1, R5B3, R6C3, and R6D1 are some of the "first" tanks, but they are deep-ish into the level.

#

R6D4 is probably best mom, as well.

wraith marsh
#

r8b1

modern coral
#

!

wraith marsh
#

probably the best one youll find, nothing going on when its around

modern coral
#

That one is also kind of deep, but it is easy to unlock

wraith marsh
#

checkpoint somewhat nearby I think?

scenic venture
wraith marsh
#

you can also just download cconsole

scenic venture
#

Ive done a1 already

#

So i guess im playing that for tank experience tday

#

Ty for the help yall

modern coral
#

Man, there aren't really good vanilla practice spots

#

Until you have some progress already*

scenic venture
#

True

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But is fine

modern coral
#

What guns, btw?

#

For duo generally

scenic venture
#

Uhh i mostly run burst rifle n hell rifle

#

My duo runs bullpup n hell rifle

#

But i switch loadouts often if i feel it doesnt work well on a rundown

modern coral
#

HEL Rifle is very strong

scenic venture
#

I love it

modern coral
#

You may reach a point where you'll want to consider switching Mains around, tho

#

Sawed-off and HEL Shotgun are both very strong

#

very much carry weapons, especially for the slot they're in

scenic venture
#

So i might wanna switch to those eventually

modern coral
#

Mhm

scenic venture
#

Alrighty

modern coral
#

The very meta guns just open up a lot of options

scenic venture
#

Yeah true

junior latch
#

And god R8D2 is difficult yes

But 1. doing class 9 is not the easiest way and from what I remember we dont look at the hardest path for how difficult a level is

  1. R8D2 is very solved. Even the ending you can do quite easily
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tbh the hardest part in duo are the 2 snatchers

fringe garden
#

scattergun?

junior latch
#

i feel like youd want hel rifle to hold the nightmares solo

graceful geode
#

How much top of the leaderboard would it be if you needed to take cargo before opening other bulkheads for R4D2?

junior latch
#

prob sawed off to stagger snatchers and hope your teammate gets to you fast enough

junior latch
junior latch
fringe garden
#

4?

unreal crystal
#

lmfao

graceful geode
unreal crystal
#

wow, it sure is easy to stagger snatchers

junior latch
#

0 got lost

fringe garden
#

40 damage makes more sense i was thinking armor was doing funny things to numbers

soft temple
#

I do wonder
For R4D2 is it just better to skip the turbine zone if you are doing PE?
Given it's a surge alarm

soft temple
#

fair

#

half an hour is a lot of time to clear and go back

graceful geode
#

R4D2 is extremely easy provided you know where to go, since as soon as enemies spawn behind, if you let even a single door working, close it and you finish the scan before any shadows get to you

#

You're also capped by shadows at that point anyway

#

Just remember to use the cfoam fix mod to fix spitteraudio

shut vapor
unreal crystal
#

i dont want to be congratulated by that guy

burnt flume
#

i'd punch him in the face, can't lie

shut vapor
#

Violence isn't good :(

alpine scaffold
burnt flume
#

but that doesn't say much because govts all over are kinda crap

sharp owl
shut vapor
alpine scaffold
#

Idk how the shadow error would Interact with the chargers alarm

shut vapor
#

Charger alarm?

#

From dropping cargo?

junior latch
shut vapor
#

That's why I'm asking

#

I don't know what charger alarm he means

junior latch
#

regarding picking it up early

Doing so before secondary is troll
But doing it after secondary and before main is technically the speed strat

Its honestly not too bad, worst alarms are the class 6 and class 8 id say

#

Tho its uber annoying

shut vapor
#

Now that we know the 1cycle r4e1 reactor is possible, how does this affect gtfo%

unreal crystal
#

uh

#

get lucky?

#

idk

#

i dont think it affects it very much

shut vapor
#

What's the timesave

mellow hedge
#

if ur good you get like 7 or 8 cycle anyways

#

getting 1 cycle is low chance bc you run 2-2 split anyway

honest parrot
#

Honestly I'm just surprised you all commited to running gtfo%

mellow hedge
#

we almost did it in one sitting back when it was first done

#

"done"

#

HE LEFT THE SERVER LMAOOOOOOO

shut vapor
proper iron
#

good ending of GTFO

shut vapor
#

Interview today salute

brittle schooner
lost lynx
#

We lost the anime girl

#

:(

brittle schooner
#

havent they been hardstuck on r4c2-r4c3 for a while now, i always see them and their "lfg" for those lvls

shut vapor
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Game bested them

brittle schooner
#

par for the course i suppose

pseudo sedge
junior latch
#

100% run has waaay worse rng than one cycle ye

junior latch
#

but one cycle was known to work over a year ago (and had been done even back then)

brittle schooner
#

prolly cell rng in certain lvls?

burnt flume
#

R3C1 key and HSU can be pretty bad

#

uhh if you're doing full send r2d2 one zone opens during reactor wave instead of at the end of the wave iirc

burnt flume
burnt flume
brittle schooner
#

well key im not sure but i remember hsu is rng between 2 zones?

burnt flume
#

ya

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and the time difference between them is quite bad

brittle schooner
#

figures

real monolith
low shell
#

teamsky bceCry2Sad2

dusky geyser
#

I would be new to the game if anyone doesn't mind teaching me the ropes

honest parrot
shut vapor
fossil horizon
lost lynx
#

Who the fuck are you

fossil horizon
#

We were telling mama jokes to each other one day

junior latch
junior latch
modern coral
#

and the big issue for B4 and D2 is that the rest of the game doesn't feature anything that hard, tbh.

fossil horizon
#

Imo the worst thing in R8B4 is the room that consists of 3 rooms for enemies spawns

#

I hate seeing enemies spawn in 6 metres from my pos

junior latch
# modern coral R8B4 nerf is overstated, it's a pretty fucked up hold

is it? is it tho?
Like the hold isnt easy yes. But its not a permanent full shooting sim anymore

And what is difficult about R8D2 then?
1st alarm? free
sec - class 7, ok challenge (im assuming duo still obviously) since you would shoot it)
mega mom, ok
dual alarm, theres like a 20 second window thats tough (when close to sec door)
extract is then the real challenge

fossil horizon
#

What was the nerf for b4 again? The spawn times for waves and fix of forward spawns?

junior latch
#

tbh juding some stuff in duo is generally a bit here and there

and in 4 man everything in R8D2 is solved

modern coral
junior latch
modern coral
#

Literally any example level to contend for top 7

fossil horizon
junior latch
#

before you basically had permanent spawn cap

fossil horizon
#

I know because I done it before nerf and was saving doors and in constant aim train simulator

junior latch
modern coral
#

If we are talking about duo specifically

junior latch
#

I cant speak about R8D2 ending duo, as I havent done the current version in a duo

#

but everything else before that didnt feel harder than whats in many of those levels

modern coral
#

Fog-related play in R8D2, especially for double scans, and ending both make it fucked.

junior latch
#

double scan rly is just 1 scan

modern coral
#

You have access to far fewer reps

junior latch
#

you only finish 1

#

the other you do after with tiny ass flyer waves with no fog

junior latch
#

o.O

junior latch
graceful geode
# real monolith Who

Yukino was a player that kept posting lfg ads like "ONLY GOOD PLAYERS ALLOWED" kind of stuff, and apparently from what I was told was only half-sarcastic (or even less than that).

modern coral
#

ik

real monolith
#

Sob

modern coral
#

Of the levels you list, R4C3 and R5D2 are the only ones that might be hard

#

and I still think they're easier than R8D2

graceful geode
#

Perhaps raged one last time and just quit the server.

modern coral
#

Keep in mind, I don't think class 7 plays quite the same in duo

junior latch
#

well yea
in 4 man you foam and its basically over

#

its why I say 4 man R8D2 is completely solved (same for extract)

modern coral
#

This is still nightmare spam in a fucked up room

junior latch
#

R8D2 duo has that and the ending as the 2 tough parts

#

when I did class 7 it didnt feel too bad

tho I gotta say, we had good scans at the end specifically

modern coral
#

R6C3, R6D4, R7C2, R8C2
But everything else in this list is not that hard, both duo and quad.

#

And in quad, R4C3 and R5D2 are definitely not that hard.

junior latch
#

quad R4C3 has more wipe chance than R8D2 personally in quad

#

R8D2 quad is just so omega solved

#

R4C3 has mild variance

modern coral
#

R4C3 felt pretty solved, and we've run a lot of overload first

#

Both for speeds and in pubs

junior latch
#

my 2 most recent R8D2 quad wipes are me getting teamkilled by someone with choke mod KEKW

rose nova
#

i had a dream in which there was a level that was gardens and the first sec door was an error, but u had to do something to open it- hoewever u could skip it and the door would become a "class VI nightmare" and it was a scan that spawn almost surge levels of nightmares and a potato midway through, plus some scans were S

#

jesus christ

junior latch
#

so kinda r8d2 sec

rose nova
#

sort but no doors it was straight off spawn

graceful geode
#

slendo! dont interrupt the sophisticated talk with darkeva and ray

rose nova
#

i remember having autopiss

junior latch
#

honestly it says a lot that im more scared of pubs waking up nightmare scouts in secondary than the class 7

rose nova
#

dreams b forgetful if i no say it i fogor

graceful geode
#

I keep reading OMEGA SOLVED and MILD VARIANCE so much I'm about to start enjoy it

junior latch
#

o.O ?

graceful geode
#

🤣 But you really like the word "solved" dont you?

junior latch
#

Like R8D2 imo is at least in the 8 hardest (full team since that matters) still

modern coral
#

To the extent that R4C3 is "harder," it's pulling BBC room or running out of ammo on Overload first.

junior latch
modern coral
#

And yeah, R8D2 is still 8th even then

fossil horizon
modern coral
#

Because the point still stands that the rest of the game just isn't very difficult

rose nova
junior latch
#

i dont like flat out saying it

#

cuz it isnt true

fossil horizon
junior latch
#

this game is hard even if you know everything

rose nova
modern coral
#

It is true, though.

junior latch
#

you cant just base it on the best players with basically all knowledge

modern coral
#

Once you have gotten past all of the know-how

junior latch
#

game without knowledge is ROUGH

graceful geode
#

One day ray will come to the realization that GTFO is incredibly easy and anyone who disagrees with him as skill issue

modern coral
#

The execution is straightforward

rose nova
junior latch
#

with knowledge the early stuff is free

modern coral
#

Vanilla is genuinely a duo game

fossil horizon
rose nova
#

probs

graceful geode
junior latch
#

Imo the game picks up again (if they have the knowledge) around R6D2, R7B3 level of difficulty range

graceful geode
#

I know the game is fully duoable but to say that it's genuinely a duo game is too much.

junior latch
#

^

fossil horizon
#

GTFO is a 4-man coop horror shooter idk why you think it's duo

graceful geode
#

22v11 is doable if you get the 11 top players and 22 run-of-the-mill ones but it's simply not a scenario that makes sense

rose nova
#

is vanilla is a duo game why r8b3 where one person uplink and 2 defend

junior latch
#

GTFO is balanced around 4 players obviously

modern coral
junior latch
#

some people just base it on their own sense of difficulty and cuz they dont realize that with thousands of hours of experience it might not be intended to be a challenge for them anymore

#

unironically a bad take

rose nova
#

imma start saying that the binding of isaac is an itemless game, u dont need any items u just need to dodge the hits and its easy

junior latch
#

I agree with gtfo duo being a good experience still since it works

#

but saying otherwise is coping

burnt flume
#

genuinely a duo game in the fact that if you're wanting challenge and fulfilment you should duo at the top end? I can absolutely agree with

junior latch
junior latch
#

tho thats different from what ray is saying

burnt flume
#

I don't think it is

graceful geode
#

I'm all for "GTFO isn't the super-hardcore shooter that was promised" angle, but "genuinely a duo"...

burnt flume
#

but i could be wrong

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

rose nova
modern coral
#

Vanilla just doesn't force 4-man

#

at all

graceful geode
modern coral
#

Every cooperative mechanic is a 2-man requirement

rose nova
#

it doesnt force u to make it harder either

junior latch
#

vanilla doesnt force duo

graceful geode
#

Take for example any damn FPS game and people who resolve to make a "only basic pistol run"

junior latch
#

the balance is set around 4 man

graceful geode
#

Does it make the game harder? Yes. Is it designed to be done around that? No.

modern coral
#

2-man, 3-man, and 4-man play dramatically differently to solo

junior latch
#

you are basing your opinion of what "balance" is around your own sense of difficulty

rose nova
#

being realistic that means that most levels are solo forced then? cuz r1a1 or r8e1 doesnt force u to have anyone

graceful geode
#

You can make (I SWEAR I HATE THIS WORD) "Artificially" harder any game

modern coral
#

The game is just completely different if you do not have access to cooperative elements.

lost lynx
#

Destiny raids are trios because you can do everything with 3 people

modern coral
#

Vs. in duo, where you can do all of the cooperative elements

lost lynx
#

Jesus

junior latch
modern coral
#

It has to do w/ what sorts of mechanics you can do

rose nova
#

wdym TTT in gmod is a group game- nah 3 people u just need 3 people technically

junior latch
#

so why are you saying its a duo balanced game

modern coral
#

Because there is no encounter in the game that requires 4 players

fossil horizon
#

GTFO isn't forcing people to play it with any amount of players in lobby because you can just not host

junior latch
#

or mechanic

modern coral
#

maybe corrupted uplinks could count as incentivizing trio or quad.

junior latch
#

cuz mechanic also applies to duo

#

you can do everything alone

honest parrot
#

tf's going on?

modern coral
lost lynx
#

GTFO isnt duo balanced dawg 💀

junior latch
#

ray is say gtfo is balanced around 2 players

#

shit take

modern coral
#

That's not what I said

graceful geode
lost lynx
#

I have heard and say so many stupid shit
But this is funny

graceful geode
#

An example

junior latch
burnt flume
#

yeah i think misinterpretation/semantics is going on hard

modern coral
junior latch
#

ah so it is difficulty

burnt flume
#

i agree with ray

junior latch
#

LOL

graceful geode
pseudo sedge
#

but that's literally just making the game harder

#

that's not balancing the game for 4 man

modern coral
#

2/2 split that requires different player roles is not a thing in vanilla

rose nova
#

4 cargos i guess

junior latch
#

its balancing the game for 4man. For people with thousands of hours

the point that ray appearantly doesnt get here

#

modded does have some legit multisplit parts

#

was it lockout 2?

#

right

pseudo sedge
fossil horizon
#

I don't want to type here my examples of the thoughts or I get banned

junior latch
#

F tier

#

with a 4 split

lost lynx
#

Guys
10CC should made a level with 4 reactors
One player each

pseudo sedge
#

samdown just assumes the average player has 2k hours

#

that's why it works for people who have 2k hours

rose nova
modern coral
junior latch
rose nova
#

all ik about samdown is that is apparently very hard

pseudo sedge
fossil horizon
# junior latch with a 4 split

Ye and it involves enemies cap manipulation and around same time to get to crucial points for 3 out of 4 people or one person risking dying to error

pseudo sedge
#

where u need 2 people to defend

rose nova
junior latch
#

theres a reason you dont get massive splits for groups (more than 2 groups) usually in gtfo

the enemy behaviour doesnt work well with it

#

so the devs didnt bother

modern coral
junior latch
#

it isnt because its supposed to be a 2 player game

rose nova
#

like even if it did its only apt for a deeper level, a deep deeper level, cuz the risk is suddenly heightened by 50%

#

one goes down- oops ur alone

modern coral
#

Vanilla doesn't really have encounters that involve needing to wave hold and boss kill during a team split.

pseudo sedge
rose nova
#

r7d2 sort of i guess

modern coral
junior latch
fossil horizon
pseudo sedge
#

instead of (r4e1) vanilla where a single player with 2k hours can kill the entire wave OR 2 players with 100 hours

modern coral
junior latch
#

fucking average players in this game struggle holding some waves with 4 players shooting

modern coral
#

You will just not understand if you keep framing it in terms of just difficulty.

#

It has nothing to do w/ the solo hold being hard

#

It has everything to do w/ what you need to bring to the hold to be able to do it

#

If you just need wave clear to hold something

#

It is not a multiplayer hold

burnt flume
#

the average player for every game sucks hard as well, its not a new phenomenon

graceful geode
modern coral
#

The vanilla game is a duo game because there is a very low teamplay requirement.

lost lynx
#

Even if You need only 2 players for the game
That DOESNT mean the game is balanced around 2 players

junior latch
#

based on your sense of how difficult the game is

lost lynx
#

💀

modern coral
#

I literally never said

#

"it's balanced for two players"

junior latch
#

ask any players on the other side of the spectrum (they obviously also arent correct) and they say its ultra hard and needs insane teamplay and communication

fossil horizon
#

I can't solo hallowed king running at me full F1 speed that's why I have teammates dealing with wave and reagro F1 WhatsApp car

junior latch
#

the better a player (the easier the game feels) -> the less teamplay required because they can take on more than 1 persons share

rose nova
modern coral
#

But they are just incorrect

junior latch
#

and yes its that easy

you are not worth as much as 1 expected gtfo player in skill

pseudo sedge
rose nova
#

u can think "oh cargo its jus 2 fucking people" but ur forgetting the person who closes the door the one who foams it the one who mines it and the one who defends up ahead

modern coral
#

It's probably also true that you can use "insane teamplay and communication" to get over hurdles that don't explicitly require teamplay

graceful geode
junior latch
#

this game is very clearly designed as a 4 player game

modern coral
#

If you can't understand that, then idk

junior latch
#

that doesnt mean that it has to force 4 players to do different things at the same time but that 2 people can work together to do 1 job

modern coral
#

Engage w/ my point

burnt flume
#

in spite of how difficult a task may be, ray is right, there's not really anything that requires more than one player somewhere to contribute a second half of a whole in the base game

pseudo sedge
graceful geode
#

Maybe it's because I'm not an anglophone but that ain't more than a throw away to "balanced for two".

modern coral
mellow hedge
#

does this mean r8a1 is a solo level

junior latch
#

Ray

is holding an alarm wave (no giants/bosses etc) a 1 person job in design for this game?

mellow hedge
#

and all levels that can be solo'd

rose nova
#

i think they just mean as in "u can do every objective and every part of a level can be done with max two people no matter as in the difficulty"

modern coral
honest parrot
#

I think this thread has gone on for too long, the old message got lost in transition

rose nova
#

like theres no trio objective, no cuadruple objective

#

4 person uplink n shit

junior latch
#

if this game was fully forced as 4 player then it would be kinda shit aswell

modern coral
#

I don't what to say

junior latch
#

ngl

modern coral
#

If I have literally explicitly said

modern coral
#

"designed is not what I'm saying, and is the wrong way to think about it"

mellow hedge
#

I think that "can be duo'd" != "is a duo game"

modern coral
#

And every 5 minutes you forget I said that

junior latch
#

^^

modern coral
#

and repeat it

#

again

lost lynx
#

GTFO is a solo game

#

Trust

junior latch
modern coral
#

Turn your fucking brain on

rose nova
#

its hard to understand this point kmsdkm

graceful geode
modern coral
#

IT'S LIKE I NEVER SAID IT

junior latch
#

GTFO is a very duo-able game

#

boom

#

actual good point

modern coral
#

THAT IS

#

WHAT I SAID

burnt flume
#

you can design a system or object to do one thing and it ends up that in actuality it's way better than something else

modern coral
#

You are just room temp IQ

mellow hedge
#

you said its a duo game though?

#

not that it can be duo'd

ripe sapphire
lost lynx
#

You literally said GTFO was a 2 player game

burnt flume
#

take viagra or whatever, great at getting the thing up but it wasn't originally created nor designed for that

junior latch
#

"4 man is easy mode"
"vanilla IS genuinely a duo game"

=/= is a very duo-able game

fossil horizon
modern coral
#

GTFO is a duo game

#

is not the same as saying

burnt flume
#

the original intent of something can be transcended and is lost when new information comes out

modern coral
#

GTFO is designed for duo, meant for duo, a 2-player game

lost lynx
#

Oh My fucking god

modern coral
#

I am not repeating myself

lost lynx
#

We go to square one

hasty bobcat
#

💀

mellow hedge
#

it can be taken different ways

ripe sapphire
#

this is like hopscotch but youre in a circle

burnt flume
#

the good old arguing against the words themselves instead of the sentiment behind them

modern coral
#

Very clearly

mellow hedge
#

yeah

lost lynx
#

I miss the weapon balance convos

mellow hedge
#

i think its better to say "it can be duo'd"

modern coral
#

That vanilla encounters do not require a division of labor beyond having at least 2 players

pseudo sedge
junior latch
#

you were arguing that modded content forces 4 players

you didnt explain why vanilla gtfo is actually a 2 player game

mellow hedge
junior latch
#

because again

modern coral
rose nova
#

teehee

burnt flume
#

i cba i'm just gonna continue fattening myself up off biscuits

modern coral
#

and my comparison is Samdown

pseudo sedge
modern coral
#

Because Samdown is not duo-able

#

Like almost all of the levels

#

are probably just impossible

junior latch
#

again

#

Ray

is holding an alarm wave (no giants/bosses etc) a 1 person job in design for this game?

burnt flume
#

don't talk to me unless you're both an r4e1 speedrunner and taking oestrogen, should cut out 99.98% of the community here

burnt flume
mellow hedge
burnt flume
#

they're such nothing biscuits

junior latch
#

high end skilled players do the job alone

hasty bobcat
modern coral
junior latch
#

but thats not how this game works generally

hasty bobcat
#

and shi

burnt flume
#

not really any taste, quite light in terms of nutritional value so it doesn't suck too bad to snack on them

mellow hedge
ripe sapphire
modern coral
#

The duo/trio scans do make it hard required, buyt even without them.

rose nova
modern coral
burnt flume
modern coral
#

Like if you did crazy shit

lost lynx
fossil horizon
#

If i put spawncap error + few bosses into r8e1 and fill rooms with scouts and make a warden survival protocol for 30 minutes + emp it won't be duo experience

modern coral
#

W/ movement and perfect lines

ripe sapphire
burnt flume
#

so many biscuits go hard but it's like oh my fucking god this biscuit is 10% of the recommended daily intake of saturated fats wtf

modern coral
#

But I think it's the level of TAS that a human could not perform

lost lynx
burnt flume
#

meanwhile i could eat this entire pack of rich tea biscuits (300g) and it's less sugar than a can of coke

ripe sapphire
mellow hedge
junior latch
fossil horizon
lost lynx
#

But i hope they beat your ass

ripe sapphire
rose nova
#

goat go take breakfast immediately if u havent- its hEALTHY

#

or ill, lick ur cereal

junior latch
mellow hedge
#

i wonder if someone will make a TAS for this game

burnt flume
#

slendi

#

i have eaten breakfast

#

lunch

#

biscuits

#

and more biscuits

#

it has been hours since i woke up

junior latch
#

biscuits monkaHmm

wraith stratus
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