gtfo-chat

[desert widget]

i've never done it that way so lol

[pine root]

buaces of two roo mdisctance

[desert widget]

alright

[pine root]

THEN JUST CHECK IT

[desert widget]

will fix now

[jaunty pollen]

DD

[desert widget]

The enemy spawns are entirely randomized, there's literally no way to tell how many of X enemy you'll be fighting or not. It could be 15 Giants, it could be zero. Not sure what to tell you.

[fringe garden]

wrong wrong wrong

[desert widget]

that's not wrong lol

[pine root]

YOU ARE

JUST INCORRECT

enemies have some randomization gianst to big shootesr

[honest parrot]

You're talking to the two people that actually know the game

Inside and out

[desert widget]

ok then go through the entire mission and list out how many enemies there are lol

[pastel dagger]

yeah nah

[pine root]

you dont have to do that

but if you gonna make a guide

[desert widget]

no point in bringing it up then tbh

[pine root]

you litearlly skip over

[jaunty pollen]

GG

[pine root]

5 zones

of stealth

[pastel dagger]

the whole rng is just exactly where the giants are gonna be, this door or this door

[gusty burrow]

@desert widget https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Enemy_Spawning

The number (and types) of enemies that spawn in a given zone are fairly consistent, with only small variations or substitutions, though how these enemies can be distributed throughout the various rooms/areas will vary.

[pine root]

i am done with this

[gusty burrow]

I think @pine root, who has made a mod which affects spawn randomization, might know a little more about how spawns work

[honest parrot]

jish can you just stick with this for a little more?
just pretend you're teaching pubs

Cause this is basically what it is

[fringe garden]

the core issue is that the writer doesn't have the necessary knowledge to compile a guide and the method of post guide -> get 3 factual errors corrected -> repeat isn't workable

feedback should ideally be catching minor faults and wording/grammar

atp it's just "hey this thing guide suggests is just wrong change it to this other thing"

[honest parrot]

But that's just R1B1 in general
And how it assumes competency in stealth/loud clear over alarm clear

[desert widget]

haven't really seen much correcting from anyone, just that "this is wrong" but no one seems to explain a preferable explanation for it, so far only 2 people here actually have. That was D4RKEVA & GoldenShooter360 lol

[fringe garden]

i mean sure

[desert widget]

rest of this just seems like pointless bickering, like bruh if you think you can do better make a guide lol

[fringe garden]

ok give me 20 minutes

[honest parrot]

Yeah zed you go for it

[desert widget]

and if you could, idk why this wasn't already done ages ago

[honest parrot]

It was

[fringe garden]

because no one cares about the achievements

[desert widget]

on the updated version of the game* or whatever you want to call it

[pine root]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2WK01SO9sU

[desert widget]

when did ALT R1 release lol

[pastel dagger]

feature complete gtfo is quite dead it is what it is

[honest parrot]

It's quite sad honestly

[pastel dagger]

hey at least matchmaking is alive

[modern coral]

2 years ago?

[honest parrot]

Scaler content is generally beginner friendly if I remember correctly

Then again... I can't remember shit correctly these days

[pastel dagger]

the thing is that all the "guides" were in the past where you played in discord\read chat and slowly but surely grasped little bits of information and now you have quadruple hours and entire game mechanics info is in your muscle memory and subconscious

i never read a steam guide

or anything like that

[mystic moss]

we have a decent catalogue of youtube guides nowadays

[pine root]

scaler guides are good

[mystic moss]

people can just watch those and git gud in the game within like 50 hours

[pastel dagger]

yea maybe

when i started there was fuck all u had to git gud while playing

[hasty bobcat]

👀

[jaunty pollen]

@honest parrotdog furry

[pastel dagger]

but i can say that youtube should be good - ive learned darktide that way - but only if you have some hours to invest into youtube

i dont really see it fully in gtfo tho

u still need some practice

some info sure but will you be able to become bonkmaster immediately idk

[mystic moss]

nah once i learned that striker tongues are dodgeable, game became a lot more manageable

[pastel dagger]

once i learned u can shove a mother and nothing will happen i reached transcendence

[honest parrot]

That and solo clearing giants

stealth

[pine root]

i think

[mystic moss]

although i admit it's kinda cute to learn the game organically through watching other players in-game

[pine root]

there are really good guides on this game but it isnt level depend

till you get to harder content

[pastel dagger]

its good + u pass that knowledge to others maybe some day

[pastel dagger]

guide to tile memorisation where

[desert widget]

what's funny is true steam achievements says only 4 people have actually 100%'d all the achievements in GTFO
how accurate that might be idk (tsa doesn't account for every single steam player), but it is funny.
Steam itself just has 0.1% of players who have ever unlocked certain achievements in GTFO so.

[pastel dagger]

thats because achievements got released quite recently

everyone was done with the game shortly after that

[honest parrot]

I've never been on the site before

So I don't know how the tracking is done

[desert widget]

they're over a year old now tbh

[honest parrot]

Some even shortly before that

[pastel dagger]

well everyone has done r8 and called it a day

[modern coral]

If we're talking 100% of achievements, you do not need to go out of your way to not die in a mission

[pastel dagger]

because the rest of the game was completed prior

[desert widget]

achievements were added dec 7th 2023

[hasty bobcat]

that's me me!!

[mystic moss]

you're not real

[honest parrot]

Just pub a couple times and do R1A1 runs
And eventually you'll get pulled into one of the lobbies that won't ever die

[hasty bobcat]

😔

[honest parrot]

That's not exactly a good way of doing things long term of course
but it's a solution

[mystic moss]

poor dude just wanted to share his guide

[pastel dagger]

im not sure how serious everybody was but a lot of people when log achievement was spotted went "so u mean i have to redo all levels in the game? fuck that"

[hasty bobcat]

chat what's going on

[honest parrot]

Yeah, I think zed's still trying to get his version together

Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't
We'll see

[pastel dagger]

replace r1a1 with 5b2pe and we talkin

[desert widget]

true steam achievements only accounts for people who sign up for the website & link there steam account.
true achievements (which is just for Xbox only), is the same way. Basically it just scans your profile for achievements & adds them (along with the time & date you unlocked it).

[pastel dagger]

idk, objective stack empty

[hasty bobcat]

fair

[pastel dagger]

ive completed r2c1 for 5 days in a row and r2c2 for 3

with pubs in matchmaking

[hasty bobcat]

why

[pastel dagger]

i pressed matchmake

[hasty bobcat]

c2 is kinda fun at least

[pastel dagger]

actually 1 r2c2 was on stream

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[pastel dagger]

its ok

i love it when someone asks for a level

we chuck in the first bulkhead key

the guy says oh its pretty laggy i need a rejoin

never fucking comes back

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[honest parrot]

He probably didn't know how

[pastel dagger]

its 50/50 actually

[honest parrot]

That or he forgot to copy lobby code
Or it changed

[pastel dagger]

sometimes u press the lobby code copy

leave

and then the button doesnt show up

it happened to me before

[idle ermine]

lobby code is just the steam join code, if you can't join again then it's very likely that it just changed right after you left

[hasty bobcat]

omg who is this

[pastel dagger]

its better when guy wipes to three giants, wakes another room full of like 15 enemies
says gg in chat
halfway thru the fight he leaves
we proceed to complete the entire level without him

[hasty bobcat]

hi jade

[idle ermine]

it's 6:45 god help me

[pastel dagger]

444

[hasty bobcat]

why tf are u up

[pastel dagger]

fuck

445

[idle ermine]

idk

[hasty bobcat]

did u solo d1 yet

[idle ermine]

r5c3 got me fucked up

[pastel dagger]

prob aye

but why does it change

[hasty bobcat]

😔

[idle ermine]

probably gonna redo it

[hasty bobcat]

huge

[idle ermine]

probably gtfo asking for a new code when something happens like lobby change or level change

[pastel dagger]

yea but if we keep playing same level

why does it change

[idle ermine]

gonna try to do it no kiting (I did first uplink but not second and I kited extract even though I didn't need to)

[hasty bobcat]

when someone leaves it can also change iirc

[idle ermine]

probably the game periodically asking steam for a new one

[hasty bobcat]

this is sad

[idle ermine]

it's like how every 5 minutes it logs into the console that 5 minutes have passed xd

[pastel dagger]

crazy

so if someone gets the bug that disallows them from interacting

they have to play dice if they want to fix it

[idle ermine]

can just open one of the people's steam profile and join from there

[pastel dagger]

uh huh

[modern coral]

@pastel dagger I do actually use Steam guides for either game info or so that I don't need to re-solve content that has optimized strats already.

But like, a completely new player musing about how they played the level for the first time is not that.

[desert widget]

who's the new player?

[honest parrot]

People who just bought the game

There's a lot of them still these days

[modern coral]

It is patently obvious that you are not very aware of how the game works.

[pine root]

You are newer

[desert widget]

disagree, also I'm not a "new player" lol

[hasty bobcat]

oh my god here it comes

[desert widget]

probably i don't really see much of a point continuing the convo

[honest parrot]

I think this is just misconceptions and misunderstandings that this game LOVES to create

Since the game itself doesn't tell you anything

If you don't actually ask

You'll never actually know whether or not what you know is actually true

For instance the wave ramping up thing

Never knew that

Same with room rules, reactor rules and pathing rules

[modern coral]

That would certainly explain why you released a "guide" that is confidently unhelpful. You've said like 6+ things which are utter nonsense, because you do not know very much about the game.

[honest parrot]

This game has... very bad learning materials

Most of the stuff has to be asked for
...Including the bugs

[hasty bobcat]

can sb link i wanna giggle

[honest parrot]

the guide?

[hasty bobcat]

ye

[modern coral]

https://truesteamachievements.com/viewcomment.aspx?commentid=33186

[honest parrot]

https://truesteamachievements.com/a2649879/work-together-achievement

[hasty bobcat]

ty

[modern coral]

Place 2 mines on Door_252.
This is an unbelievably stupid line.

Wtf is this?

[honest parrot]

Not really, it's just incredibly inefficient in terms of tool

[hasty bobcat]

is it r1b1

[honest parrot]

Yeah

[modern coral]

No, you don't understand

[hasty bobcat]

what

[modern coral]

That is a part of what's stupid about the statement

But it has multiple things wrong

[honest parrot]

Really?

[fringe garden]

aren't door numbers random

[hasty bobcat]

imagine not pulling class 2 first smh

[fringe garden]

as in change every reset

[modern coral]

^

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[modern coral]

Who the fuck even knows which door this is.

[pine root]

the room aera doesnt

BUt

[idle ermine]

team I don't think I got door_252 on my run do I restart 😢

[pine root]

honestly

now it is actaul

guide

[desert widget]

tbh i didn't know if they were or not, before I had written it with that in mind. Decided to remove that stuff to simplify it a bunch.

[fringe garden]

see this is the isssue

[pine root]

they dont to talk about a room

[fringe garden]

"i didn't know"

[pine root]

you should use the letter

like

a

b

c

[modern coral]

You wrote a useless guide

for the sake of writing a guide

[desert widget]

i already have the zone rooms listed a bunch lol

[desert widget]

disagree

[modern coral]

Its only value is to be unintentionally very funny.

[pine root]

you wrote a r1b1 guide

[desert widget]

Nah

[honest parrot]

You supposed a lot of information that probably didn't stick to the reality of the game
It happens

[desert widget]

no issues with this?

[hasty bobcat]

nah he'd win chat

[honest parrot]

I always say dumb shit here as well

[desert widget]

tbh every mission should have it's own guide

[honest parrot]

Yeah, scaler does that

He did it
For every single one

As far as I'm aware

[idle ermine]

where tutorial guide

[hasty bobcat]

hold up i need my c-foam gun for this 😎

[pastel dagger]

im foaming

im gonna foam

[pine root]

yeah i just thought you were writing the no death achievement guide

[pastel dagger]

this door

[hasty bobcat]

'you should tell someone to take scatter' is diabolical

[pine root]

which is why i was annoyed

[modern coral]

If every level is going to have its own guide, it should be a half-decent guide w/ reasonable advice.

[lost lynx]

Im waiting for the modded rundowns guide

[desert widget]

aren't a lot of his guides a couple years old now and a bit out dated due to balance updates (seemed to be a ton of those that happened)
his most recent ones are probably good still tho

[lost lynx]

No they are not

[honest parrot]

No they're all fine

Most of them are

The only thing that doesn't stick is sniper

[lost lynx]

All of them hold up fine nowdays

[pine root]

his old ones are fine the only one that is bad with like obvious miss info is r7d2

[lost lynx]

The strategy is the same

[desert widget]

easiest way to get it without dying

[pine root]

Well like

[pastel dagger]

you are mostly going to watch a level guide for the level, you can probably disregard the weapon advice

[hasty bobcat]

error stopped before iirc?

[modern coral]

If you are going to make a guide, and your goal is to provide updated content to replace the outdated content

[pine root]

his guide tells you

to initaite

the giant bug

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[desert widget]

people said r1b1 or r7a1
i haven't actually done r7a1 yet so i'm not actually sure if it's easier or not (trying to do every rundown in order without skipping missions)

[modern coral]

It seems important to know if the old content is outdated or not, and what's wrong with it or not.

[pine root]

because it is "easier"

[hasty bobcat]

lmao

[pastel dagger]

its actually prob r6a1

that is the easiset

and fastest

[hasty bobcat]

r6a1 is free

[pine root]

it is any of the a tiers or if your trying to like stack achivemtns it is r1b1

[hasty bobcat]

and fun

[lost lynx]

R8A2 Sec obviously

[pine root]

r1b1 you can do no flashlight no death bio

[pastel dagger]

duh

[pine root]

All at once

it is so based

[hasty bobcat]

ikr

[pastel dagger]

solo

with pistols

[lost lynx]

R8B4 is better for that

[pine root]

you can trade out solo for the no death one

but yyeah

[pine root]

insane

[pastel dagger]

no, do all of them

[pine root]

love it tho

no death you need four players

[idle ermine]

how does one do shotgun only and pistol only

[pastel dagger]

ah fuck

[pine root]

solo you need one

[hasty bobcat]

true

[pastel dagger]

shotgun only is easy, r3d1

[lost lynx]

Sawed off + scatter
Easy game

[honest parrot]

dual slot shotguns or dual slot pistol/revolver

[idle ermine]

only sky understood I cry

[mystic moss]

is 140 hours actually considered new

[honest parrot]

Oh you mean as a joke

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[lost lynx]

Yesnt

[pine root]

yes

[pastel dagger]

id say no

[honest parrot]

It's like dbd

[pine root]

depends on b rain

[lost lynx]

That depends in You actually learn stuff

[pine root]

tho

[lost lynx]

If You did no

[hasty bobcat]

ure new till u finish the game ngl

[pastel dagger]

140 is like just getting out of bed

[mystic moss]

what the fuck

[lost lynx]

The fuck what

[pine root]

voxy

how many hours do you have right now

[hasty bobcat]

yxov

[pastel dagger]

140 is like when u forget the fear and start doing stealth while standing and be more confident

[idle ermine]

tbh the game is meant to be confusing and thus hard for new players but once you know how it works it's just a (bad) shooter

[hasty bobcat]

so true!!

[pine root]

i would argue it is a good horde shooter

[modern coral]

Tbh, I get the mental here

[lost lynx]

Theres a difference between being confusing and being shit at teaching

[idle ermine]

good horde shooter but not good shooter

[pine root]

i think

[desert widget]

I find the game fun so

[pine root]

his guide is now good

ngl

[idle ermine]

the change in verticality and the invisible walls just make it so annoyin

[pastel dagger]

the game is really good yes

[modern coral]

Because this player has invested over 100 hrs, and has assumed "wow, I've really grinded this game"

[desert widget]

lol I've never assumed I've "really grinded this game"

[modern coral]

And has unwittengly walked into a chat room where everyone has multiple thousands of hours in GTFO
not him v

[lost lynx]

I have 500 and i'm still learning new shit

[pine root]

we are still learning new shit

[lost lynx]

I recently learn foamed enemies are red in biotracker

[pastel dagger]

did u know u can press matchmake

[lost lynx]

💀

[pine root]

the detailed enemy break down for tongue attack only like came out

6 months ago

or something

[lost lynx]

Insane

[idle ermine]

yeah that's what I also thought

[hasty bobcat]

erm what's that

[lost lynx]

New tech half a year after the game ended

[idle ermine]

game is really old and yet no code breakdown or anything

[pastel dagger]

bring back sniper melee

[idle ermine]

like payday 2's long guide

[pine root]

tru is slowly going through the r6

[idle ermine]

I miss kenny

[modern coral]

How many hours you think Scaler has?

I actually don't know off-hand.

[idle ermine]

at least 2

[hasty bobcat]

maybe 3

[lost lynx]

4k

[pastel dagger]

you dont need off hand, go two handed

[honest parrot]

Come on guys give him some credit

[desert widget]

if his steam profile is public you can just check it on that

[lost lynx]

Actually 4 is a lot
Maybe 3

[modern coral]

I'm trying to gauge your impression, here.

[idle ermine]

private games

[modern coral]

If you had to guess

how many?

[fringe garden]

https://pastebin.com/0w9FnB1v

@desert widget

here is my shit guide i wrote in way too short

recommending to shoot every scout and all the giant zones is maybe a bit iffy but otherwise i think it's alright

[desert widget]

donno 8,000?

[idle ermine]

you're insane

[desert widget]

6k?

[lost lynx]

My guide would be: just don't die

Thats it

Easy

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[mystic moss]

i hate your dumb anime pfp

[lost lynx]

I love you too

[fringe garden]

i would amend some stuff maybe, foremost how to think about resources (get enough mines, ammo balancing, and keep everyone at 40 minimum to avoid giant 1 shots) but otherwise i think it's ok

[mystic moss]

you forgot to link to the shooting guide

[idle ermine]

that would be 4 hours a day since the release of the game 🔥

[lost lynx]

Someone i saw chating here had like 6k in GTFO

[pastel dagger]

1.0?

[lost lynx]

I don't remember who

[honest parrot]

Well it is a ballpark guess

Don't be so hard on that

[hasty bobcat]

Ray

[desert widget]

it's doable, i've seen people with more hours then that in certain video games that they play a ton

[idle ermine]

this ain't tf2

[hasty bobcat]

how much do u have btw

[idle ermine]

2.2

[hasty bobcat]

oh

damn

[honest parrot]

I've got the same as pablo

[idle ermine]

only played solo until like 600 hours

guh

[hasty bobcat]

respect

[lost lynx]

500?

[honest parrot]

ye

[mystic moss]

is 500 still new

[lost lynx]

Cool

[honest parrot]

Yeah
Why else would I be in tech support

[fringe garden]

1000 is still new (im new and have just over 1000)

[hasty bobcat]

depends ngl

[pastel dagger]

500 is mid

800-900 u git gud

[lost lynx]

I already completed the game

I'm not new

Right?

right?

[honest parrot]

Yeah

porbably

It's like spiff

[hasty bobcat]

spiff didn't complete the game

[pastel dagger]

gtfo now surpassed my payday 2 hours

[honest parrot]

Not completely I think, the e tiers are still missing and some tricky pes

[idle ermine]

if only

I have 4.6k guh

[desert widget]

i have like 6336 hours on halo infinite, came out Nov. 15th 2021 (a month earlier then gtfo but still). This is combining my xbox & steam (pc) hours btw
and yet I've seen people with over 10k in that so uh

[pastel dagger]

i quit payday 2 early

for rock and stone

[lost lynx]

I do believe he streams GTFO sometimes

I think he is working his way through

[idle ermine]

congrats on spending 5.5 hours a day on halo infinite I guess

[desert widget]

thank you i wear my gold medal with pride 🏅

i also hate the game

[honest parrot]

Also for the tech support thread did you actually know what he was talking about

Or did you just ask out of curiousity?

If you know I'd like to know what you think is wrong

[pine root]

are you mainly pubing the game

gtfo

like lfg in this server

or do you have a static

[pastel dagger]

lfg in this server is half dead

[pine root]

i have stopped

[pastel dagger]

he either has a static or presses matchmake

[pine root]

with self harm

[honest parrot]

Do you call a flopping fish on land half-dead?

[pastel dagger]

or another community

[lost lynx]

You still play this game so i doubt that

[pine root]

yeah your right

I stopped with the public self harm

[idle ermine]

yro'ue

[pine root]

sorry miss jade

I will type worse for you' re enjoyment

[idle ermine]

ty

[pastel dagger]

is the flopping fish alone

[idle ermine]

well he's got the ground

[lost lynx]

I mean he is dying

[pastel dagger]

ground fish?

just get a house

[lost lynx]

So yeah
Half dead half alive

[pine root]

@mystic moss

do you have the deadly r4c3 pe guide

[mystic moss]

let me find it

[pine root]

thx bb

[pastel dagger]

whats the order on r4c3pe

[pine root]

secondary overload main

[idle ermine]

nuh uh

[hasty bobcat]

no

[pine root]

fast clear is over secondary main

[hasty bobcat]

yes

[pine root]

idk what he wants

[pastel dagger]

so if u do oveload first

what happens

[idle ermine]

charger error

[pine root]

you have a charger error

for longer

[hasty bobcat]

u have charger error in sec

[pine root]

it is only 3 ever like 25 seconds

[idle ermine]

also you have to do overload in fog

[pine root]

but you get to skip a class 6 shadow

So it is good to do

[pastel dagger]

i see

[hasty bobcat]

I thought it's the other way around

[pastel dagger]

i had a matchmaking experience where im pretty sure the host didnt know what the fuck they are doing and we went to overload first

[hasty bobcat]

if u do ov first

[pine root]

overload wont have fog

[idle ermine]

the low stinky fog

[pine root]

it is to high

[idle ermine]

oh yeah you go down on main and stuff guh

[lost lynx]

Based

[pine root]

it is m ore fun to do

the calss 6 shadow

is kinda lame

[idle ermine]

love how it's just a funky level no matter what obj you do

main only has the bad fog

[pastel dagger]

so whats better pe

r4c3 or r7b3

[hasty bobcat]

1

[pine root]

R7b3 secondary

just takes to long

[fringe garden]

r7b3 has no redeeming qualities as a pe clear

[pine root]

other wise it is fine

the ending is cool

[pastel dagger]

i dont actually remember b3 secondary

[pine root]

as pe

[pine root]

r6c1 as secondary

[desert widget]

this sounds like the stuff I intentionally do (every single mission I intentionally only do prisoner efficiency if it's available)

[pastel dagger]

ah

its ok then

[idle ermine]

are you a carry cargo then hsu or carry cargo with hsu error kinda guy

[pastel dagger]

i like it

[pastel dagger]

yet you can fuck it up, not every optional sector has a bulkhead key

[desert widget]

hated r4c3

shit was painful

[idle ermine]

r7c2 guh

[pastel dagger]

it was pretty fun

[desert widget]

why chargers

[pastel dagger]

u mean juggers

[desert widget]

1 run we got to the end and had over 80% done at the extraction point😭

going to attempt r4d1 soon

[pastel dagger]

react🥱r

[pine root]

WAIT

[idle ermine]

waiting

[desert widget]

yea i haven't done it yet

[pine root]

DEADLY DELETED
HIS CANNLE

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[modern coral]

o7

[pine root]

THIS IS SO SAD

[desert widget]

who's deadly

[pine root]

an old legend

[pastel dagger]

you will love r4d2

[desert widget]

oh i'm fine with chargers i just hate error alarm chargers

that happens throughout the whole fucking mission

[hasty bobcat]

err

[mellow hedge]

lucky for you that level doesnt have it\

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[fringe garden]

ever heard of hel rifle

[pastel dagger]

kekw

[honest parrot]

hel rifle and a bit of planning then race to the finish line

[pastel dagger]

ok then

you might have some fun at r6d2

[honest parrot]

Hopes and prayers also for whether or not you actually have a team who can find a hsu

In good time

[hasty bobcat]

ppl make me defend middle every time

so annoying

[desert widget]

luckily that's still pretty far away

[pastel dagger]

ok, r5b1

[desert widget]

i'm sure it won't be as difficult as r4c3

[pastel dagger]

its not

reactor is annoying tho

[hasty bobcat]

reactor is ass

if u dk what to do

[idle ermine]

no idea how the reactor even went through testing and got put into a b tier

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[pine root]

R1c1

just

in the level

[pastel dagger]

when alt r5 released we permafoamed door on reactor

it was fucked

[desert widget]

with how many bugs people say this game has it was probably never tested

[fringe garden]

something something overload objective

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[pastel dagger]

it was a pretty quick restart ngl

[honest parrot]

I mean reactors aren't THAT buggy

You're more liable to get void bugged than you are to actually have reactor term softlock

(Assuming no one's trying to softlock it)

[hasty bobcat]

now that I think about it

[idle ermine]

reactor term isn't a hard softlock

[hasty bobcat]

r5b1 main can be fun to speed

[idle ermine]

just have the person who caused it rejoin

[pine root]

can you leave to make my soft lock hard

[pastel dagger]

bring cfoam to every reactor and uplink and cfoam the terminals

[honest parrot]

Good luck finding who that is on a pub run

[fringe garden]

seems awful to speed with both first key rng and hsu rng but what do i know

[idle ermine]

ok good night jish

[pine root]

LOL

SORRY

[hasty bobcat]

u don't run only one key usually

[idle ermine]

it's 7:47am

i'm dead

[fringe garden]

im just talking about

[hasty bobcat]

and few hsu can be acceptable ig

[fringe garden]

what zone the key spawns in

[hasty bobcat]

nah it's not bad

[idle ermine]

you can know the key spawns (and I'm pretty sure hsu) with speedrun tools

[hasty bobcat]

u have logs zed

don't care ignore

[honest parrot]

I have an exam in seven hours
And cannot bring myself to revise

At all

I'm so ded...

[hasty bobcat]

so true!!

[fringe garden]

my experience with r5b1 is that one of the key zones sucks compared to the other one in terms of depth but maybe my memory sucks

[pastel dagger]

give it 4 hrs

u will do it

[hasty bobcat]

haven't played much

key -> hsu can be fun that's all i had in my mind

[fringe garden]

i agree it can actually be fun

but i think the rng just sucks

[wraith marsh]

you have been brainwashed into thinking a fast speedrun is fun

[hasty bobcat]

maybe idk

[pastel dagger]

i actually met a species of a player i thought extinct on r5b1

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[wraith marsh]

dont let eva fool you

[pastel dagger]

those that are scared of optional objectives

[hasty bobcat]

my ass is not really ready for e tiers

[honest parrot]

Ah, so every green heart

[wraith marsh]

speedruns get worse and worse the shorter they are

[fringe garden]

listen every time i try anything speed
i get decent rng, then good rng, and everything except that now registers as timeloss in my mind

i think my mental just isn'

t

built for speedrunning

[pastel dagger]

we didnt listen to him, and you know what he did?
he hid behind the reactor terminal

[honest parrot]

Did he die?

[modern coral]

It's just like a gambling addiction

[hasty bobcat]

YES

[pastel dagger]

yea we wiped cuz he didnt help

[mellow hedge]

im big into gambling rn

[modern coral]

You get that jackpot R5E1 A key

[honest parrot]

If he's not host just scatter him and be done with

[modern coral]

and you're hooked

[hasty bobcat]

IKR

[honest parrot]

Especially the ones that are actually trying to grief

...Still remember dealing with that in drg

[fringe garden]

gambling

yeah ig i can see that

gambling fun

[pastel dagger]

with pokies all around its in your dna

[jaunty pollen]

@honest parrotfurry

[daring ginkgo]

Is it even possible

[pastel dagger]

nobody said to go easy on the c4

[mellow hedge]

i do tf2 gambling rn

[modern coral]

We rolled it

And got scout double hit in the attempt

[pastel dagger]

bro i remember the csgolounge days when i was in high school

those were the days

[modern coral]

which died at class III or something

[daring ginkgo]

Damn

[mellow hedge]

its crazy that ive actually made money from mvm the past couple weeks

[honest parrot]

In this economy?

[pastel dagger]

learn mtg

make money

[mellow hedge]

what is mtg

[pine root]

sure

[lost lynx]

Frosty sells maid feet pics chat

[pastel dagger]

a better game than gtfo

[lost lynx]

I have seen it

[pine root]

and i dommed your dad

[mellow hedge]

ig you dommed my dad

[lost lynx]

Hot

[wraith marsh]

gamble in limbus company

[pastel dagger]

there he is

my boi displayport cable

[honest parrot]

I only do lor

[pastel dagger]

time to set up pc

[honest parrot]

my time in battle cats have taught me to stay the heck away from gacha

Or idle games

[hasty bobcat]

does it matter actually

u want key last zone kinda

[modern coral]

This is first key, but tbh it's not even a huge difference.

[hasty bobcat]

mm ye

[lost lynx]

Good

Gacha sucks

Shit games

[wraith marsh]

facts

limbus is good but it is very significantly worsened by being a gacha

[honest parrot]

did you just change your pp pablo

[lost lynx]

Yes

Maybe

Perhaps

Probably

[honest parrot]

Ok I'm not getting delirious

[honest parrot]

From what I can tell it's essentially just lor

Except it's being updated and some train-head is fighting alternate universes now

[lost lynx]

🤔

[honest parrot]

Or smth

[wraith marsh]

its watered down lor

the story and music is still insanely good

the gameplay is on the verge of bad

[honest parrot]

Yeah still the same people

[wraith marsh]

and you can not interact with the gacha

pretty easily

[lost lynx]

But its a gacha game

So it sucks anyways

[wraith marsh]

yup

unfortunately

[daring ginkgo]

This is best gacha, cause you can get all stuff almost for free, thanks to grind, ofc you need battle pass, but it is very cheap compared to other gachas and it lasts for 3-4 months, unlike other gachas with 1 month cycle

[wraith marsh]

you dont "need" bp

[lost lynx]

You just described like 4-5 gacha games

[wraith marsh]

but yeah honestly

at least atp I would still just recommend watching a PT/the story

than playing it

it is definitely getting there tho, recent content is mildly difficult

[daring ginkgo]

Idk, almost all popular gachas have short bp cycles and you cannot farm new stuff, only pull

[lost lynx]

Not a good sign

[wraith marsh]

gachas make me so sad

[high orchid]

I don't even get what the appeal for like 99% of gacha games is

[lost lynx]

Anime PNGs

[wraith marsh]

99% is anime girls

[daring ginkgo]

Waifus

[lost lynx]

Then some of them have a really good story

[wraith marsh]

some have like

[lost lynx]

Which carry 90% of the game

[wraith marsh]

remnants of what coudlve been very good games

that are 100% ruined by making it a gacha

[lost lynx]

Worst is making it a gacha open world

[daring ginkgo]

Genshin xd

[high orchid]

Genshin Impact moment

[honest parrot]

Everytime I play palworld I am reminded of genshin

[daring ginkgo]

Pgr is nice gacha, fun gameplay

[lost lynx]

Gacha and Open world DONT mix together pretty well

[jaunty pollen]

@high orchidfurry

[lost lynx]

It's good but farming is paaaaain

However

DMC5 collab

[honest parrot]

gachas are really good money makers

that and microtransactions

[high orchid]

what?

[lost lynx]

They are gonna fall in a couple years

Most of them at least

[honest parrot]

He's been doing that the past few hours

He's called me that like three times already

[lost lynx]

I don't see the gacha market lasting very long tbh

[wraith marsh]

live service needs to die ngl

[daring ginkgo]

With amount of money they make, no way

[lost lynx]

Live services are good if You want to tell a massive story part by part

[daring ginkgo]

Did you see their profits, its huge

[lost lynx]

If not just make it a singleplayer

[wraith marsh]

id rather pay for multiple sequels ngl

[daring ginkgo]

Popular ones, not crappy generic gachas

[high orchid]

but then you can't charge them more to play the game

[lost lynx]

Yes i know
However a lot of people are starting to abandon gacha
Not because the game is bad but because they are starting to hate the gambling aspect

[wraith marsh]

I dont understand how ppl spend like

[high orchid]

which is the whole point of gachas

[wraith marsh]

thousands of dollars on gachas

[pine root]

I don’t like

[wraith marsh]

when in a diff world it couldve just been like

5 40$ games in a row

[pine root]

Parts

[wraith marsh]

with the exact same gameplay

and yet somehow there is something wrong with that

[pine root]

Essentially

There isn’t enough money in it

[lost lynx]

I don't understand how people can play 5 gachas daily

Do they just
Go in
Spend stamina in 5 mins then leave?

[daring ginkgo]

Ez

[daring ginkgo]

Basically yes

[wraith marsh]

they dont have gtfo to play

[lost lynx]

Yeah we should introduce them to GTFO

[daring ginkgo]

I play both gtfo and 7 gachas

[wraith marsh]

LOL

[lost lynx]

💀

I only play 2 :)

[wraith marsh]

bro I play 1.5 gachas and im already tempted to drop 1

[daring ginkgo]

W8, 8

[honest parrot]

I've like three live service games that basically do the same thing

[lost lynx]

Honestly just focus on one

[honest parrot]

Warframe, destiny 2 and ff14

[high orchid]

I only ever played 2 and they were basically the same shit, Bang Dream and Project Sekai

stopped playing em once I got a steam deck to play project diva on

[wraith marsh]

nah im just bored of genshin

[lost lynx]

No way
Rythm games are similar??!?!?

Who could have guess

[wraith marsh]

and the next year of shit is gonna be almost nothing for the game so im kinda meh

[lost lynx]

Brother
Genshin is one of the worst gacha games currently

Why are you playing it

[wraith marsh]

I like the combat

youre not required to be good at it

[high orchid]

literally they were made by the same people

[wraith marsh]

but you can be very good at it

[lost lynx]

You can try Wuthering waves

[daring ginkgo]

Isnt Wuwa just better genshin in terms of combat?

[lost lynx]

Yes

Wuwa is better in every single aspect

[wraith marsh]

I was interested but I did not know what gachas were when I got int ogenshin

I got dragged in by friends

I am not ever playing another one lol

[lost lynx]

Good

Dont waste your time

Gacha games are supposed to be side games anyways

[honest parrot]

Do you guys play warframe

[lost lynx]

Not maiin games

[daring ginkgo]

I did

[lost lynx]

Sometimes

[wraith marsh]

I tried it

[lost lynx]

In PS5

[wraith marsh]

was bored after 2 hours

[daring ginkgo]

After 1k hours dropped, got tired from grind

[lost lynx]

Play for the story

Is worth it

[honest parrot]

1k?

[lost lynx]

You don't really need to grind to do it

[honest parrot]

That's some dedication

[wraith marsh]

id rather just watch someone else do it lol

[lost lynx]

Man

I need more singleplayer games

[wraith marsh]

same

[wraith marsh]

played the shit out of all the ones I like already

[daring ginkgo]

Play some roguelites

[lost lynx]

I don't like rougelites

Or rougelikes

[wraith marsh]

unique individual

[lost lynx]

i am restarted

I'm not that unique

[wraith marsh]

ngl MP games do just clear anyways

[daring ginkgo]

What about rpg? Like divinity original sin 2

[high orchid]

you can always play touhou someone literally put EoSD on the wallpaper engine steam workshop

[daring ginkgo]

I was so hooked at this game, that i completed it twice in a row for 130h

[lost lynx]

I have no clue what Touhou is
I just know it has like 15 games

And fumos

[wraith marsh]

its shmups

[lost lynx]

I like RPGs

Especially JRPGs

[wraith marsh]

for the most part

[hoary crescent]

You guys should try gtfo it's a pretty good game

[lost lynx]

No

Its trash

[wraith marsh]

the guys arent always online unforunately

[lost lynx]

I posted a message on the GTFO Discord about how much I loved GTFO and can't wait for their new game that they are developing. On my post, I said that I hope they don't participate in the same DEI, forced pronoun/alphabet agenda that has plagued so many games lately. This message was meant to be positive and hopeful that they haven't sold out.
As a result of my post, a discord member (who insulted me over my post) reported me and I had my account frozen on GTFO Discord by their moderators. GTFO said they would unfreeze the account, only IF the pronoun section of my profile was changed to an approved pronoun. My profile says "Not participating with this BS" on the Pronoun section.
I am a 44 year old man, I have lived my life, and have my ethic and morals. I do not believe in or support this in any way. You can live your life, do what you do, but that doesn't men that I must comply with it. I will not participate in your fantasy world or be forced to participate.
As a result, I chose to leave the server and will uninstall the game. This is a shame that the Discord and company is forcing this. It's a shame that they said "we will unfreeze your account when you choose your desired "accepted" pronoun."

[hoary crescent]

Truly unfortunate

[hoary crescent]

Tldr

[wraith marsh]

DOW better be fire

[hoary crescent]

If dow is bad I might just begin to have a real life

[lost lynx]

I want to kill CEOs already

[high orchid]

I'm already prepared to add fumos into DoW lol

[daring ginkgo]

Shit, i need to do my work, but i am chatting here

[lost lynx]

Remember to not talk about modding in DoW server

[daring ginkgo]

Time to work

[lost lynx]

Or You guys are going to get killed

[hoary crescent]

I just woke up to get ready for work

But my bed is so comfy and warm

[lost lynx]

Its 1:30 AM for me

I can't sleep

[hoary crescent]

8:30 here

[wraith marsh]

its 1:30 AM for me
im not going to sleep for 4 hours

[lost lynx]

Hello person in the other side of the world

[hoary crescent]

It's me

[lost lynx]

Hows the future @hoary crescent

[hoary crescent]

It's a good day, very sunny

[lost lynx]

Won't be for long

I'm going to your position

Wait a sec

[hoary crescent]

Stop

[hoary crescent]

I gotta stop waking up and going to discord

Cause then I just get stuck in it and don't wanna leave bed smh

[proper iron]

I miss weekend

[wraith marsh]

soon

[low shell]

stuck in hugs

[mellow hedge]

5.5 hours till weekend

[silver spade]

Oh god, not that weird sticker again.

[graceful whale]

i think sea server is dead. is it playable with other servers ?

would there be any lag ?

[hoary crescent]

You can play with lag it's fine

You pretty much get used to it

[proper iron]

the lag is noticeable

no other choice sadge

[graceful whale]

ok ok thanks

[hoary crescent]

Just get good and predict the future

[proper iron]

yes just activate almighty

[hoary crescent]

Ultra instinct gtfo

[pastel dagger]

there are no servers

if host has good internet its gonna be fine

[heavy blade]

any people to complete r2 levels?

[pastel dagger]

which one

[heavy blade]

wait I haven't opened the game yet

[pastel dagger]

@graceful whale i got kicked

[heavy blade]

I've got c2 to e1

[pastel dagger]

c2 day 4

[heavy blade]

day 4?

[pastel dagger]

ive done c2 for 3 days straight

[heavy blade]

oh

ok

we can play other r2 levels if you want

[pastel dagger]

i found a lobby soz

[sharp owl]

hey. last time i played this was last year then i left the discord. is there just 1 lfg channel now ?

[gusty burrow]

There's lots, you might have to enable them though

Check id:customize

[sharp owl]

thanks

[graceful whale]

oh its you lmao

matchmake sucks hahaaha

[pastel dagger]

issok

[jaunty pollen]

gtfo

whyso no human

T.T

[hoary crescent]

I hate human

[proper iron]

they gtfo

[latent palm]

Dont worry we do too

[near stag]

Just use Client Side prediction. At least you wont get unfair licks

[graceful geode]

Humility, dude.

I've the humility to recognize that there's people that know this game like the back of their sleeves and already made guides for it

Darkeva's one of them

I didnt nor do mean to offend

But calling the corrections to, to be honest, quite big mistakes that were pointed out, for example enemy spawns

"pointless bickering" shows a lack of respect for other people.

[shut vapor]

Did someone say bicker? Representative of the bicker bar here :D how can i help

[graceful geode]

We (or at least I) had a word for this attitude

200 hours syndrome

Because there's a lot of players that finish like R2E1 at that hour mark give or take or any other made-up arbitrary line that they think passed and are now able to tutor others or newbies

[hasty bobcat]

no never

sorry

[graceful geode]

I literally STOPPED teaching newbies because there'd always be someone with 200 hours saying just BAD advice like placing a sentry behind a door

[hasty bobcat]

erm actually 🤓

it is bad jk

[graceful geode]

Which isn't a big deal per-se, I consider misinformation as something that has a malicious intent, but it's jarring to correct it and having to argue with someone if it's actually wrong to do those things

[mellow hedge]

i dont understand why people with 200 hours think they are wise old men with infinite knowledge about the game

[hasty bobcat]

ikr

[proper iron]

me. a yapper

[mellow hedge]

this is why sleepy was so hated

[brittle schooner]

"shotgun sentry is goated guys trust me it carried me in r1b1"

[graceful geode]

It ain't even that, it's the unwillingness to learn that has annoyed me so much I gave up

[nova roost]

that is a rude thing to say

[junior latch]

Cuz in many other games 200 hours has you among 90% knowledge of a game

in gtfo its more like 50% maybe

[hasty bobcat]

nahh

if u don't know how to quick draw and reload cancel u know nothing about the game

[junior latch]

i mean you can argue for less %

[hasty bobcat]

trust

[mellow hedge]

tbh you only know a lot about gtfo if you try to learn

[junior latch]

not more

[graceful geode]

Dang, I fucking believed I could stop enemies line of sight with my body (spoiler, you cant, it's wrong) someone pointed out to me that is just damn wrong and I tested it instead of making a trench on my position

[hasty bobcat]

yeah exactly

[graceful geode]

Again, I may sound like an old man

[proper iron]

know the theory is possible but i dont think it practical at 200

[brittle schooner]

in GTFO it WILDLY varies based on if the person is willing to actually listen/ask others

[graceful geode]

But damn if the internet doesn't apparently annihilate people's humbleness

[junior latch]

Thats always the case

[brittle schooner]

cause most shit is not very intuitive tbh

[junior latch]

im talking for a general person who didnt look up much or is taught

[wraith marsh]

imagine not knowing the entire game before buying it

[hasty bobcat]

so true!!

[junior latch]

In other games 200 hours in you are missing niche things and sick not well known techs usually

In gtfo people dont know about major mechanics and how they work

[graceful geode]

The point is not getting things wrong or teaching wrong things or believing wrong things

The point is having the decency and humility to consider you MIGHT be wrong

[junior latch]

back dmg and spiff is a good example

They learned it in r8e2

From kenny

[brittle schooner]

even then i feel like it varies alot xd

[proper iron]

i can simulate that feeling just by play fe2. dont know shit

[graceful geode]

This is true for everything

The point is that people are unwilling to even remotely consider that they might be wrong

[wraith marsh]

I just think its funny that ppl learn the wrong thing a majority of the time

its not even a lack of learning

[hasty bobcat]

skill issue?

[graceful geode]

it's a lack of humbleness

[wraith marsh]

I think this game gives ppl a mindset of like

[junior latch]

Theres moments where a mechanic in this game is so obscure that you wont learn it even if you try

[wraith marsh]

"this didnt get me killed, therefore it must be good"

[proper iron]

im gonna say bad aiming make it hard to learn bruh

[hasty bobcat]

so real 😔

[junior latch]

aka long range aggro can happen through an awoken enemy

But only if the enemy was woken up with a melee attack

[wraith marsh]

and then the opposite side "this got me killed, I will never touch anything remotely relevant to it ever again"

[hasty bobcat]

is it the one that happens with giants occasionally

[junior latch]

Giants are where it would usually happen yes

[hasty bobcat]

yee

[pastel dagger]

this is real

i recall revisiting r2e1 a year later and be like how the fuck did we do this

[brittle schooner]

Here is an example from my OG group. We didnt look up much when we started initially but we managed to figure out a decent amount in 200 hours just via trial and error mostly (we figured out scattergun was op, we realized enemies spawn 2 rooms away and that we could funnel them... sort of, we rlly didnt understand why enemies sometimes break doors they "shouldnt" be able 2 and we didnt figure out spawn blocking either xd.)

[gusty burrow]

I've always seen this as one of the more 'useful' bits of misinfo. Since, for players who don't know about short- vs long-range aggro the ability to put your body in between enemies in conjunction with the typical play pattern of waiting for enemies to not be glowing does a good job of 'preventing' the enemy from waking up (since they will be far enough for short-range aggro to be prevented)

[junior latch]

its a thing that helps to make prox aggro not happen

But it also makes players, play slower in stealth

Its always interesting to me what kinda missinfos were around a lot in the past

A typical one was scouts being invincible with their tentacles out (was said once or twice in markpliers runs and many new people never bothered checking)

[hasty bobcat]

they are tho!!!

:3

(nightmare scouts have tentacles out of their head therefore)

:3

oh wait my brain just turned off

it was supposed to be that they can be damaged even with the tentacles out (cuz of their head)

[junior latch]

Some funny ones specficially include

1. snatchers become faster over time if left alive
2. mom is invincible after you pop all the bubbles with low dmg weapons without killing her
3. r1a1 is a 25 min mission for vets

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

2nd one is funny

can u even pop all the bubbles in theory

[gusty burrow]

No

[hasty bobcat]

yeah exactly

[brittle schooner]

ive never heard that 3rd one lol

[gusty burrow]

The bubbles have 8 more health than her

[junior latch]

They just missed a small bubble

[hasty bobcat]

ah fair

[wraith marsh]

rip the +1 on tumor break for host, never forget ✊

[gusty burrow]

One of the original deep dives

The one day of comming damaged tumors for the sniper player went so hard

We shoulda kept that misinfo just for the gameplay

[junior latch]

its some funny ones ive come across so they arent wide spread

[hasty bobcat]

uncapped sniper ig?

or why would they

[gusty burrow]

Before that.

Before uncapped tumors host could only deal tumor current HP in damage.

While investigating this behaviour we mistakenly thought that this applied to all players (our tests involved the host so yeah, easy for that to happen).

So in order to maximise damage it was advantageous for the sniper player to shoot undamaged tumors, so it was good to comm if you'd damaged a tumor.

It was still good to comm damaged tumors if the sniper player was host though.

But that made the fun comm a lot more rare.

[wraith marsh]

beth just had to bring up the high cal mom kill and ruin it

[hasty bobcat]

ohhh

it's the same now too then

i mean first of all u don't want sniper into mom

[gusty burrow]

No. Current tumor HP is never involved now.

[hasty bobcat]

huh

[gusty burrow]

Shooting a damaged tumor is the same as shooting an undamaged one in terms of how much damage you deal to the enemy.

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[wraith marsh]

aka host now also has the interaction client always had

[hasty bobcat]

i mean if u overdamage

[brittle schooner]

fair enuf

[hasty bobcat]

it's kinda a waste

[wraith marsh]

overdamage is good

[hasty bobcat]

where u could shoot undamaged tumor with sniper or 1 hp tumor

[wraith marsh]

the less tumors you break the easier the enemy is to shoot

[hasty bobcat]

no like

don't u lose the damage?

[wraith marsh]

no

[hasty bobcat]

oh

yea it's all good then

[shut vapor]

Partial cute more like partial flute 🪈

[near stag]

Ngl it is kinda sad how scatter is allowed to 3 Tap Tanks and 2 Tap moms, but for a Sniper its Not ok

[hasty bobcat]

current sniper is sad

[unreal crystal]

sniper would’ve been in a better spot with it

But even so it’s pretty fucked

[shut vapor]

No no but you see you could snipe from far away where it's safe where you have to be close with scatter

[unreal crystal]

eh it’s kinda true

and you’re only breaking 1 tumor vs potentially breaking multiple per shot with scatter

Which for tanks kinda matters

Tho im pretty sure sniper was a few more shots for them

I forget exactly how many it was

4 or 5 if I were to guess