gtfo-chat

[proven garden]

let's see if we finally manage to beat r3c1

lots of chargers with very little room for breathing in that error alarm 😭

[naive rover]

Alpha!

I hate that HSU scan.

[daring ginkgo]

Pray to rng for hsu location/kill scout,bring hel weapons, profit

[proven garden]

we had a charger spawn in the scout room and wake it up

and we made it to extraction with 2 dead

and died on 80% scan without any ammo

[jagged citrus]

We love charger errors 🥰

[daring ginkgo]

Rip

[lost lynx]

R3C1 error is

really

weird

[daring ginkgo]

Dying on extraction sucks

[lost lynx]

if you get the big room youll have enemies spawning on you

for some reason

[jagged citrus]

Just don't get hit™️

Speaking as a man who has never ever gone down once

[lost lynx]

i can call at least 15 people that can show other wise

[jagged citrus]

Nuh uh

It's fake

Graphical bug with OBS

[hasty bobcat]

Бро он русский

[naive rover]

On my winning run we actually did HSU scan, killed Charger wave and sprinted to extraction. So no enemies until we started Extraction scan.

Took us six tries to hard memorize the way back though to get there that fast however.

[hasty bobcat]

erm u can get spawns in front

which is

unforch at times ig

[naive rover]

Maybe we got real lucky then?

[hasty bobcat]

pmuch

[daring ginkgo]

Ну да, мог догадаться по нику воробей 🤔 Пофиг, я болею, пишу на англ

[hasty bobcat]

it feels like 30/70 split between front and back

[hasty bobcat]

Я бы хуй забил столько переводить :D

[naive rover]

I have it on my R3C1 winning run on YouTube if you care to see that. Pretty much zero enemies on our sprint back somehow. Thought we just went really really fast 🫡

[jagged citrus]

This sounds like you got lucky and waves spawned behind you

[daring ginkgo]

Doesnt matter much, cause extraction spawn dense waves of chargers

[jagged citrus]

Immense skill, well played

Honestly I've had teams/levels where that was the deciding factor lmao

I was doing r7b3 overload and EVERY. SINGLE. WAVE. spawned in front

[daring ginkgo]

Moment you touch scan there will be like 15-20 chargers iirc

[jagged citrus]

We did not make it to extract.

[daring ginkgo]

This shit🤢

[naive rover]

SUPER true. It’s terrifying.

[jagged citrus]

We reset from checkpoint and they all spawned behind and we made it to extract with zero difficulty

[junior latch]

Theres honestly barely any rng for hsu locations

Its just that the zone is a 50/50 and one is worse by a lot

[jagged citrus]

Rng check failed 😔

[junior latch]

?

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, i got good hsu spawn like 2 times out of 7

[junior latch]

wdym get the big room

[lost lynx]

the big zone

you can get the HSU in 2 different places

one small zone

one big zone

the big zone
i hate it so much

[junior latch]

theres multiple spawns per zone

but they are all only in 1 room for the zone

chargers will only spawn on top of someone if you are split as a team without a daisy chance during the spawn

[pine root]

Speed demon

[junior latch]

Hel rifle player

„Nah id win“

[jagged citrus]

Need my sawed off crutch 😮‍💨

[daring ginkgo]

Isnt it 2 rooms away spawn like always? So for example, if each member of party in room A, B, C, D, enemies have to spawn in room F in general?

[low shell]

csgo train kill aim practice

[junior latch]

yes

but if you are in A and C its 33/33/33 between A, C and E

[low shell]

rush B with hel rifle

[junior latch]

rush B
R1A1 be like

[junior latch]

@proven garden thats some loadouts for r3c1

[proven garden]

yeah tbf we just balled with whatever

when we wiped i had sawed off

i gave hel shotgun a shot and it came in clutch on the last wave

tbf we managed because the 2nd half of the waves started spawning behind us

unlike last time where every single wave was in front of us

[junior latch]

3 shotguns (fine but also lol)
2 spears

[proven garden]

yeah the 2 guys with spears are relatively new

we usually have another person who runs hammer

[low shell]

new update: spear has hammer stats but hits straight, making the hit direction be the only difference

except the hitbox is from top to bottom like a hammer

so its a hammer but ur being lied to visually

[mint rock]

knife enjoyers stay winning 😏

[low shell]

yes

[glacial anvil]

me when i hel gun go pew pew

[graceful geode]

I usually always stop on the way back before fog diving to check the next wave spawn

If it's in front I kill the wave before fog diving back to extraction

[glacial anvil]

knife needs back of head 😔

[graceful geode]

The rest IMHO doesn't really matter

[glacial anvil]

I just failed r5d1

[graceful geode]

As along as you finish the HSU scan, it's going to be fine

[glacial anvil]

secondary killed us all

:c

need better bio tracker direction

[sharp owl]

Murder

[graceful geode]

If it makes you feel better it's one of the maps I really dont want to touch anymore after finishing it

[glacial anvil]

yeah it does

thanks

i know it sucks tho lol

we got really lucky regardless

the tank in that one room spawned with its back facing us

[graceful geode]

It's just an unfunny convoluted mess of alarms that didnt need existing, you could only have alarms on main forward path and the map would be the same but more enjoyable because there's less padding

[glacial anvil]

yeah

that level feels so like

i legit forgot that it was a reactor level

just cus of the sheer number of zones you have to walk through to get there

i was like "oh right it's a reactor level"

[graceful geode]

It needed to be exactly like R1D1 but harder, where sidepaths would have been optional for res

[glacial anvil]

yeah

[graceful geode]

Extreme's okay

[glacial anvil]

the amount of resources...

was abysmal

considering the enemy types

note to self to bring supp ef

eff

next time

[brittle schooner]

im more the opposite feel tbh

The first part of extreme is basically just a replica of r4e1's most boring part but worse, cause its a respawn room, AND you have to go through it twice. The zone after is fine, the class 6 sustain is meh, the tank zone is fine, the surge is super boring, u just sit there in the exact same spot while the turrents do most of the work, with occasional shooting, prolly easiest surge in the game. The boss fight is fine, the bit after with getting the turbine is obnoxious (especially if u get unlucky and its far af away) and then its just the r4e1 thing again on the way back

[proven garden]

bringing 3 scatterguns for our 2nd attempt on d1 was our best idea lmao

first time seeing a big mom and she insta died

best part is we just took it because of the spontaneous giants spawning on top of us

[tidal jay]

I don't understand the existence of scattergun

[hasty bobcat]

why three...

[tidal jay]

Why did 10C nerf Burst into the ground and leave scattergun as is

[proven garden]

because i was rocking one and didnt see my friends decided they were free thinkers

[hasty bobcat]

wasn't the only thing that got removed is burst cancel

and 5 burts --> 3 burst

[proven garden]

but yeah r3d1 being easier than r3c1 was not in my bingo list

[tidal jay]

Yeah but that's what made the gun strong

Then you got scattershot which just... kills everything

Extremely quick, at that

Poor Burst got the short end of the stick

Someone should make a mod that rebalances some weaps

I wanna use the revolver

[hasty bobcat]

burst cancel was lit but bc is still a good gun

[pine root]

No scatter gun was already the strongest gun in the game before r8

[tidal jay]

Burst cancel got removed a whiiiile back

[proven garden]

i mean in theory burst can kill more big enemies per mag than scatter but scatter is just brain dead busted in practice

[hasty bobcat]

in theory it's similar

[pine root]

but yeah the main reason why scatter wasn’t nerfed probs has to do with how the devs think range is a meaningful stat in the game

[tidal jay]

It's not scattergun vs Burst, it's why nerf Burst when scattergun exists

[lost lynx]

So brain dead i see pubs wasting scatter shots

[hasty bobcat]

its 15 and 20 iirc

[tidal jay]

That's actually hella fair

But I'm still hurt

I miss Burst cancel

[pine root]

5 burst to 3 burst isn’t a a nerf ngl it is a adjustment in its power from big kill to wave kill

[junior latch]

no lol
thats what made it overpowered

[junior latch]

disagree
at that point it was arguably hel rifle or hel gun

[proven garden]

yeah but the range disadvantage is not that relevant when whatever you are closing in just dies inmediately

[pine root]

Burst cancel could come
Back in the game and nothing would change

[junior latch]

getting a random damage and ammo buff is kinda crazy, pushing it back into 2 shot mom, easier giant kills, easier small aoe kills

[tidal jay]

I wasn't clear but yes that's what I was trying to say

[pine root]

Enemies being close to you means they needed to walk the entire distance to you this is only a benefit

[junior latch]

well burst cannon is still like the 4th best special

[junior latch]

not necessarily

[tidal jay]

What are the others?

[junior latch]

hel rifle and gun

obviously scatter

[junior latch]

[pine root]

You should learn brushing

[pine root]

Then idk what to tell you Eva

They just are not smart then

[junior latch]

and made it significantly easier for most players

[junior latch]

see sniper nerf

jish

[proven garden]

why do you think it hasn't been nerfed then

[junior latch]

🤐

[pine root]

He isn’t allowed to say

[junior latch]

also @proven garden the R3D1 loadout being noticeably better than the R3C1 one mightve helped

[wraith marsh]

I would say pick rate for this one

but I dont see scatter pick rate being low

[junior latch]

:)

[proven garden]

maybe

[pine root]

LOL

[wraith marsh]

but that might be vet bias

ig new players dont rly like shotguns

[pine root]

Scatter was sleeper best gun the game in alt r6

[wraith marsh]

but idk

[proven garden]

they like shotguns they just don't like weapons that seem to be low ammo

[wraith marsh]

all the shotguns appear low ammo at first

and the ones that arent

ppl also dont like

aka combat and hel shotty

[hasty bobcat]

shotguns are great

[proven garden]

i loved combat when i started

[pine root]

They are the best class of guns in the game

[proven garden]

but now i just think regular shotgun is just better in every way tbh

[hasty bobcat]

i agree

[wraith marsh]

combat shotgun is better in basically every way lol

[pine root]

Mainly because range is a good dump stat in this game

[proven garden]

then im just dumb and stupid

[junior latch]

combat is top tier close range wave clear

if hel shotty wasnt a thing combat shotty would look pretty damn good

[wraith marsh]

^ basically yea

you take neither, just take hel shotty

[pine root]

Saws off revolution

[lost lynx]

Who could have guessed a game where You fight enemies in close quarters 99% of time has shotguns as the best weapon type

[pine root]

^^

I wish we had a lazer shooter

That had a sitscan attack

[junior latch]

tbf id argue thats kind of a correlation vs causation bias

scatter, sawed off and hel shotty just arent balanced

they are busted, but not due to shotgun, but due to missunderstanding on balance from dev side (imo)

shotgun is balanced
combat shotgun is too (just has high ammo)

choke and slug are lol

not "rly good"

its the reverse of full autos imo

full autos by default wouldnt be bad in this game

they just arent balanced properly

[lost lynx]

Hey
Don't talk about my boy choke mod like that

[burnt flume]

combat shotgun fuckin owns

[lost lynx]

[pine root]

Ngl autos just interact with headshots incorrectly

[burnt flume]

and ya it is objectively better than regular shotgun but i find reg shotty more fun in r4e1

[pine root]

it is the biggest issue they have

[burnt flume]

fix all weapons by giving more damage and pen :) the mod creators must be onto something with autos

[junior latch]

you could unironically buff a lot of full autos by upping limb breakpoints on smalls

[wraith marsh]

they are balanced theoretically around the enemy they are the worst at fighting

[pine root]

I think if head didn’t break autos would be more runnable

But also I think the game is better when hel rev and rev are the strongest guns

[junior latch]

if they dont break at all pistol is now da goat for strikers

[junior latch]

agree on hel revo
disagree on revo, specials should be dominated either by all rounder-ish or 2-3 specialized options

[wraith marsh]

limb multi

[pine root]

^^^

[junior latch]

so you could have revo + sniper + choke mod as top 3

or hel rifle

[pine root]

One more multi fixes the game

[wraith marsh]

personally

im fine with hel rifle being one of the best guns

same with gun and BC

[junior latch]

i think all 3 could take an ammo nerf

but yea

[pine root]

I like pens being strong but I think revo being best in slot for smalls would go hard

[wraith marsh]

gun should probably be objectively better than rifle in a perfect world but im biased

[junior latch]

tho tbh i dont even know about ammo nerf with bc

maybe mag nerf? idk

[wraith marsh]

BC is fine rn

no changes

its ammo is not a problem

[junior latch]

its prob fair if you consider its skill curve

[pine root]

It takes insane skill and has good cool shooting mechanics

[junior latch]

contrary to scatter

[wraith marsh]

if you perform well with BC it is not even super good

[junior latch]

or an og r6 sniper

[wraith marsh]

its just fast

[hasty bobcat]

but tbh when are we having 4 mag sniper with 2 pen

[proven garden]

how would you nerf scatter, ammo?

[hasty bobcat]

remove

[pine root]

Remove it from the game

[proven garden]

fair lmao

[pine root]

buff choke mods Realod

To be like 25-35% less

That is now your boss burst

have fun

[junior latch]

prec multi is the first if you dont wanna remove it

[wraith marsh]

1 mag scatter

[hasty bobcat]

ye choke with better reload would be fun

[wraith marsh]

it has to be done team

[pine root]

Choke should be the best boss burst in the game

[junior latch]

id be interested in how balanced you can get it with a 1 mag (potentially some slight buffs to counteract)

[pine root]

It would go so hard

[hasty bobcat]

I can hear those 4 shots in my ears Jish

[broken horizon]

I'm reading through the discord rn but anyone real quick want to recommend a guide or youtube channel for a beginner?

[proven garden]

it would still be pretty decent as is with a 1 mag no?

[hasty bobcat]

its very loud ouch xd

[proven garden]

professor scaler

[hasty bobcat]

evaaa

[broken horizon]

ty

[hasty bobcat]

tell them

[wraith marsh]

say the line bart

[pine root]

One mag scatter

Still clears

bc

I think

[wraith marsh]

think about it jish

what makes it better than choke mod at that point?

[pine root]

faster reload

[wraith marsh]

(ammo)

[pine root]

Ammo

[junior latch]

hm?

[hasty bobcat]

both ^

[hasty bobcat]

stealth guide!!

[pine root]

One mag scatter give it 200 damage

[proven garden]

make scatter just a noise gun and it doesnt deal damage

[wraith marsh]

isnt scatter reload worse

[junior latch]

ah
i mean i didnt see that comment
and other people can unironically link it

[pine root]

No chance

[junior latch]

i do so cuz i want beginners to get accessible guides

[pine root]

chok mod reload feels awful

[proven garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PP1U_MM74

[broken horizon]

I've been writing a small guide for my friend group whos about to start playing tonight, it is insane how in depth this game gets

[junior latch]

As others have said Professor Scaler has some good beginner guides. Hes got a loot of stuff aswell as tips n tricks and level guides (dont spoil yourself too much tho)

Theres also this quick and basic one to help you get started
#guides-and-reviews message

check the guides and reviews channel in general, theres lots of stuff in there if you scroll

[junior latch]

oh neat

[mint rock]

hope he makes some guides for den of wolves

[proven garden]

i thought den of wolves was going to be a spiritual sequel but i've heard it's more akin to payday?

[junior latch]

we will see

[lost lynx]

Drop them on R8E2

And watch them learn

[broken horizon]

HAHA we're all full blind rn are you able to just go to the hardest worlds?

I would so do that

[junior latch]

no

[broken horizon]

Awh.

[lost lynx]

:(

[junior latch]

you need to beat every level in a rundown to get access to that rundowns E tier

UNLESS someone intentionally hosts you the level if theyve unlocked it and then leaves

[broken horizon]

"Hey guys here's a friend I met on the gtfo discord he's gonna play with us and teach us."

queues R8

[junior latch]

oh R8 isnt necessarily the hardest

rundowns dont get harder in order

[broken horizon]

Yeah I've only played the tutorial I barely even know that they're called rundowns lol

[lost lynx]

R8 isnt that hard but i can see a lot of new people getting stuck early on

C1 for example

[junior latch]

their diffculty overall is like
R8/R5>R4>R7>R6/R2>R3>R1 from hardest to easiest

the tiers (for main objective only) matter way more (from A easiest to E hardest), with R8 being a bit special

[junior latch]

rundown = campaign
expedition = level/mission

[broken horizon]

Okay cool

Eitherway my main group gets downed in easy difficult left for dead because they don't look behind themselves ever. I cannot imagine how well they're going to deal with even the easiest levels in this game LMAO

[proven garden]

|| what's special about r8?||

[junior latch]

tiers are not quite set up for their usually difficulty (specifically later ones)

[lost lynx]

C1 being harder than D1

Amazing

[junior latch]

it rly isnt

C1PE is

but its about main

[hasty bobcat]

main is still pretty ass ngl

[lost lynx]

So

It is

[junior latch]

tiers are based on main objective

not optionals

so in this context, it doesnt matter

[hasty bobcat]

do u think c1 main is worse than e1 main

that's what i thought

[junior latch]

?

[hasty bobcat]

r8c1 and r8e1

[junior latch]

E1 is harder

[lost lynx]

Huh

[hasty bobcat]

funny enough I find c1 harder just because it's longer 💀

[junior latch]

but you could argue E1 is easier if you rly struggle with stealth

[hasty bobcat]

what's main only on e1

[junior latch]

its shorter 💀

[lost lynx]

Run

[junior latch]

uplink

[hasty bobcat]

nawwww

[junior latch]

2 dual uplinks in the same zone

barely any enemies

[hasty bobcat]

eva we talk about casual playthroughs

[lost lynx]

Its shorter if You speedrun
Fuck casual playthroughs

[hasty bobcat]

u need to walk through 2 zones!!

[lost lynx]

[hasty bobcat]

get a command

then do 2 dual uplinks

then extract

it's 20 years of timeee

[junior latch]

R8E1 main usually takes teams like 18-20 min (can be 16 1/2)

R8C1 main is realistically a 20 min one aswell, but can be like 13 or so

[lost lynx]

You really think

People take

20 mins

In a casual

[junior latch]

well yea then R5B4 is a "fast level" too

[lost lynx]

Playthrough

[hasty bobcat]

well we don't talk about warden protocols rn xD

[junior latch]

I was talking about a typical rerun of main only

[proven garden]

i cant even fathom the areas before the uplinks if that's an e tier

[hasty bobcat]

rerun is fair yeah

[junior latch]

main is legit just 2 zones -> free term command -> dual uplink -> get out

[junior latch]

we talking C1 rn

[proven garden]

ah

[lost lynx]

R8E1 is just run hold run hold

With low res but it doesnt matter

[junior latch]

but ye
IMO R8E1 main > R8C1 main, but the difference is mostly cuz ive seen people fail more often in R8E1 as they cant deal with the stress
R8D1 unironically is the hardest main here

but not by much either

either way its rly just R8E1 being a C tier (even with optionals tbh) and the second half being ranked up for most of it

[naive rover]

That is a good spot to check that. We totally have had enemies spawn in front of us in the fog room but we thought that’s just how the level was supposed to work and we were moving too slow.

My team has also only beaten the level once.

I’m assuming you probably solo it on the regular because it’s really really fun.

[junior latch]

R3C1? fun?

[hasty bobcat]

u solo r3d1 on daily basis cuz it's fun yeah

[naive rover]

Not fun for me. That Charger constant breaks people’s composure.

[junior latch]

its honestly not too bad

1 person can hold it pretty chill

easier with them having guns that actually deal with chargers well -> hel rifle (hel gun) or just even high cal/choke mod

[naive rover]

How do you do extraction? Foam the floor and hope it catches most of the Chargers? A lot of guys spawn right when you hit the scan.

[hasty bobcat]

okay now i'm confused

[hasty bobcat]

it's r3c1 not r3d1

[junior latch]

they spawn 2 rooms away

[hasty bobcat]

and yeah that too

[junior latch]

they take ladder in most cases
but even if they dont its a free funnel

[hasty bobcat]

u can shoot it out comfy psure

[junior latch]

hel rifle just does so much

its unreal

arbalist kills 7 max in a mag in a perfect scenario

hel rifle can do that in 2-3 shots

[naive rover]

That checks out. I get 5-7 Chargers if I don’t miss with Arbalest.

[junior latch]

tbf arbalist vs hel rifle is a very unfair comparision

[naive rover]

I guess Hel Gun prolly kills like upwards 10-13ish before reload cause overpen and no miss?

[junior latch]

depends on how much pen you get

[hasty bobcat]

if pen 2 and no miss it kills 9

[junior latch]

hel rifle with that gets 10

[hasty bobcat]

but realistically u get like 6-7

[junior latch]

but hel rifle can realistically get 11-13 with greater lines

as its rly high range and 1 taps

[naive rover]

Not hard to do I guess. Chargers run in a conga line a lot.

[hasty bobcat]

rule of thumb is

if level is mostly chargers

u go hel rifle

if there are no to little chargers u go hel gun

[junior latch]

eh

hel rifle is a lot easier

to use and get good value out off

its also just generally more "all roundish" into bigger targets (scouts and giants)

both are top tier anyway

[naive rover]

Honestly I miss smalls CONSTANTLY with Hel Gun cause they move weird. Haven’t gotten the fast wind up down yet.

Chargers I can deal with easy though.

[hasty bobcat]

just play revo :P

[brittle schooner]

just dont miss 4head

[hasty bobcat]

fr

[pine root]

I don’t solo it because it’s fun solo it to get women like Ray

[junior latch]

nah

you gotta talk about rocks

rocks > soloing gtfo > else

[hoary crescent]

can you melee a cscout with knife and hammer? no right?

[gusty burrow]

It is just short

[hoary crescent]

damn

[gusty burrow]

40 + 18.7 = 58.7 < 60

[junior latch]

cant you realistically get a slash in with knife

[pine root]

Depends on the roll

0.5 probs yeah

[gusty burrow]

The world if scouts always rolled 0.5...

[pine root]

I wish there was no cap tru

On minimum or maximum time

[hoary crescent]

wym roll how does that work

[gusty burrow]

[0, ∞) goes hard

[pine root]

When a scout is about to go invincible

[gusty burrow]

The time before the scout goes invulnerable is randomized between 0.25 and 0.5 seconds

[hoary crescent]

oooh

[gusty burrow]

(Uniform distribution)

[hoary crescent]

i had no clue

[pine root]

We didn’t either

[junior latch]

(-inf, inf)

[hoary crescent]

that's cool ty for info

[pine root]

Until try deep dived

[junior latch]

imagine if scouts just randomly triggered before you even get close

[pine root]

Just use it as a cope

[junior latch]

truly good design

[pine root]

didn’t kill

Must have rolled to low

[hoary crescent]

oh i mean

first time we tried i thought we had it but we didn't slash

so we're just bad

[lost lynx]

Omg Lakana

[hasty bobcat]

why not double sledge then

[junior latch]

unironically this
hammer + knife attempts at killing mean you either are running hammer + 3 knifes in a cscout (so prob charger) level
or you are duoing with it in a c-scout level

[hasty bobcat]

i don't know why'd u pick knife over sledge

[junior latch]

is fast

its also basically just the 2nd best melee you take if you want small clear

[hoary crescent]

duo lieks to knife so

knife it is

hello pablo

[naive rover]

What is CScout?

Charger Scout?

[gusty burrow]

Charger Scout

[hasty bobcat]

yea

[robust dawn]

construction scout

[hoary crescent]

knif e is good

[sullen finch]

no

[pine root]

Ye

[near stag]

Knifer good, Player Bad

[topaz lichen]

#gtfo-media message

@near stag ooh yeah that's normal. it's a known bug rn that I'm not sure how to fix, basically when enemies push each other (like when grouped up against a door, blood doors are common example) the movement prediction gets fucked as the "push" velocity given to enemies to stop them colliding with each other gets extrapolated.

[near stag]

Yeah thats fucked

[topaz lichen]

yeah mostly cause the "push" velocity is super high (as expected of any anti-collision force)

uuuuh I hv some ideas of how to fix it but all are not very good solutions

might try just clamping their velocity

[tranquil minnow]

Any tips for R2D1?

[proven garden]

where are you struggling

[tidal jay]

Which level is the first time we see ||mothers?||

[proper iron]

r3b2

[tidal jay]

I wanna make my friends fear god

Thanks

[lost lynx]

R9A1

[proper iron]

i threw game again

im bad and gtfo bad

[near stag]

Dont use disinfections when you dont NEED them

[modern coral]

Fog repellers are a resource, stock up on them and don't have 3 people throwing at the same time

[proven garden]

rundown order r3b2, lowest tier i think it's r5a2 overload

[hasty bobcat]

r3b2 is first introduction yes

[naive rover]

I think R4A3 also has one at end of Secondary.

Wait that’s not lowest tier my bad 😞

[primal furnace]

any way to recover a run after the host crashes

nobody got kicked out

[lost lynx]

if no one can move or interact with anything then the lobby is dead

you have to restart

[primal furnace]

we can move

just not interact with neonate

:(

[lost lynx]

lobby is dead

[primal furnace]

yup

crashed in ||the last room of R7D1 :////||

[lost lynx]

there is no reason to spoiler mark that

R7 has been out for like 3 years

[primal furnace]

idfk

like

[hasty bobcat]

i like how ppl actually spoil stuff lmao

[drowsy basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-king-von-stare-german-stare-1000-yard-stare-king-von-1000-yard-stare-gif-16686924583240939992

[hasty bobcat]

as if anyone cares 😔

[primal furnace]

do people care about if I spoil smth that bad

[hasty bobcat]

epic embed fail

[lost lynx]

not really

[drowsy basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-king-von-stare-german-stare-1000-yard-stare-king-von-1000-yard-stare-gif-16686924583240939992

[wild isle]

this isnt ok

[lost lynx]

embed fail

[hasty bobcat]

i mean u see like 10 ppl in this chat usually

and everyone cleared it

[drowsy basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-king-von-stare-german-stare-1000-yard-stare-king-von-1000-yard-stare-gif-16686924583240939992

[wild isle]

do nOT say that again !

[primal furnace]

I'm not active here idfc

[lost lynx]

i havent

pls carry me

Sky

[primal furnace]

ok time to no longer be active for a while

[wild isle]

lobby dead game sucks

[drowsy basalt]

im going to bomb the complex

[lost lynx]

how

[drowsy basalt]

force feed nuke..,.,,,, to wardeng

[wild isle]

Bush in GTFO

[lost lynx]

how?

you cant exactly kill the warden

[drowsy basalt]

yes i can

[wild isle]

you havent tried hard enopugh clearly

[drowsy basalt]

its working. i can feel it working

[lost lynx]

you can feel the warden inside of you?

[drowsy basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-king-von-stare-german-stare-1000-yard-stare-king-von-1000-yard-stare-gif-16686924583240939992

[wild isle]

my son Neonathan is dead

[drowsy basalt]

SIDS

[lost lynx]

good

i ate him

[wild isle]

go to hell

[drowsy basalt]

im going to bomb the complex

[primal furnace]

dropped him in the cement mixer

whoops

[lost lynx]

HELL NAH

thats

horrible

[hasty bobcat]

wdym

fr?

[lost lynx]

im joking

i have

its in a stream somewhere

[hasty bobcat]

i wouldn't play either way i'm bad

[idle monolith]

hello what is the deferent in R1 to R 7 can i start for anyone of them or do i need to go from 1

[low shell]

they're all campaigns so its not a problem to start from any, but its better to start from first until you get stuck then you go to next since they all introduce new mechanics

[idle monolith]

thanks

[low shell]

np

[stark idol]

R6 is a good one to start from, but R1 is also a decent choice as well

[low shell]

R6 is good if you are familiar enough to realize that R4 and R5 are ass lmao

[stark idol]

SO FUCKING REAL

[fresh heron]

or start r5 and run the oops-all-pain GTFO experience

[stark idol]

Or R4 and run the "why the fuck are there 12081028012891092 side-objectives" experience

[plush gate]

r5d1

[shut vapor]

R5C1 :(

[hybrid lodge]

hello i am new to gtfo and im so confused on how to play i need to instructed the tutorial didnt help nor did youtube

[shut vapor]

What are you confused about (I won't respond quickly BC I'm at work )

[sharp owl]

Get the fuck out

[shut vapor]

🐟

[daring ginkgo]

r6 good to start until r6bx, then things escalates quickly

[gusty burrow]

If you're starting R6 IMO you should leave the X missions until towards the end

[low shell]

i think AX leaves a false sense of security

BX is so pain and requires you to know what to do, with error alarms its pain

idek if CX is not bs in comparison or even worse somehow

idek what AX is cuz i am stuck on BX

[junior latch]

its a B, C and D tier

[low shell]

r6c1 is super cool in comparison to code hunting in the dark

prob a massive skill issue

[junior latch]

„Nor did youtube“ is an interesting statement

What did you watch to try and learn

[low shell]

i wanted to link stealth guidr and such but i havent watched em that i hesitate to recommend, cuz i usually have insight or simply cuz i didnt watch it myself

[daring ginkgo]

cx hard part is literally only on end

[low shell]

at least no running around in circles to find a terminal in the dark, right?

cuz omg i am blind

[daring ginkgo]

yeah

just climb

[low shell]

i will take any threat that isnt my self awareness and running around

ican go in the fog, but not darkness

[daring ginkgo]

and better start from top terminal, i tried start from bottom, all enemies stuck between pipes or something above, and when i try to climb whole horde came to my ass, bots were running around like headless chickens

[junior latch]

[low shell]

i barely watched any guides, i just watched good people play and learned from them

including you eva Cx

[daring ginkgo]

fog + darkness + red lights 👌

[low shell]

bring your glowsticks and long flashlights, folks

[daring ginkgo]

long range flashlights almost as useless as basic one in thick fog

[low shell]

not the thick fog

[sharp owl]

hi chat

[daring ginkgo]

hello

[shut vapor]

No way when did you become visible

[sharp owl]

i didnt

[low shell]

you may be invisible, but i can still hug you

[shut vapor]

[sharp owl]

Hello chatters

Get the fuck

[low shell]

hi chaos

[sharp owl]

kekos

It has BEEN a while

Well not really if you DIDNT LEAVE MY SERVER cube

Whats good

[low shell]

not being in ur server

[sharp owl]

Damn

[daring ginkgo]

hello

[sharp owl]

Hows the solo grind going

[daring ginkgo]

i took a break on r7c3, cause this lvl is extremely annoying to deal with bots and also i was pretty sick through last week, like 38.5-39.5C temperature + covid

but finally i got recipe for stronger drug so i am almost healed up

[sharp owl]

Rough, im just coming back from meningitis myself so I hope you feel better

Alright nice

[daring ginkgo]

did you tried e2 solo?

[lost lynx]

Omg You have a server?

[sharp owl]

I do yea

[sharp owl]

[flat notch]

Новыйй год к нам мчится , скораа всё случится.

С новым годом английское сообщество gtfo) (оговорочка , с наступающим)

🎅 😎

[errant hollow]

оо

русский брат

вы тут все таки есть xD

[flat notch]

Нас много))

[errant hollow]

просто русский дискорд как будто бы мертв

[robust dawn]

?

[analog flicker]

Wild

[sharp owl]

so real

😔

gtfo my beloved

[near stag]

The GTFO Situation is crazy

[sharp owl]

The GTFO Situation is insane

[shut vapor]

The GTFO Situation is chaos

[rose nova]

The GTFO Situation is R7B2: Dense

[flat notch]

The GTFO Situation is пиздец

[lost lynx]

The GTFO situation is gay

[tidal jay]

I just dropped in for the first time in R5B4

I haven't played this game in so long

[lost lynx]

The first Warden Protocol

Enjoy

[tidal jay]

Was there a level with countdown like that?

No right?

[lost lynx]

R5B4 is the first

[tidal jay]

Had a feeling

[lost lynx]

There is 4 in total

[tidal jay]

Why did they put a timer on my patience and stealth game

I'm out here getting fucked

[lost lynx]

R5B4
||R6C3||
||R7C3||
||R8E1||

[glacial anvil]

Hi

[hasty bobcat]

yay new year time

[shut vapor]

not yet

[hasty bobcat]

it just came for me

[shut vapor]

Does that mean its time to play gtfo

[hasty bobcat]

hmmm

[shut vapor]

I need 3 gooners to beat Bliss with because I hate myself

[hasty bobcat]

lmao gl

only t1 and t2 have been beaten

t3 WR is 5 rooms out of 10 rn

[shut vapor]

Everyone else is just a skill issue then

[tidal jay]

200 hours

I've spent 200 hours in GTFO

And I barely have 18 achievements

[daring ginkgo]

There are not a lot of them

[daring ginkgo]

Some secret ones, rundown clears (partially or full PE) and some specific, like clear lvl without tools , shotguns only etc

Log hunting

[tidal jay]

I don't have the tutorial achievement

[daring ginkgo]

Achievements implemented on r8 release iirc

[tidal jay]

Yeah yeah

I haven't done it since

I just think it's funny lol

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, you can get like whole r1-r8 clears achievements and miss tutorial one xd

Funny flex

[tidal jay]

I might do that

Sounds fun

[ebon merlin]

@rancid zephyr i dont have my mic in rn

[flat notch]

с новый годом

[mental gale]

does anyone wanna play through r1 with me

we start at r1 b1 then go through the rest

[hasty bobcat]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[mental gale]

thanks my bad

[hasty bobcat]

alg

[tidal jay]

Why does your pfp look like it's on HD quality

[hasty bobcat]

why not

[tidal jay]

I'm asking cuz it looks so good

It looks crisp as fuck

Shit's in 1440p or sum

[hasty bobcat]

kinda??

[robust dawn]

bro is high

[sharp owl]

Happy late new year

[tidal jay]

Merry Christmas guys

[tidal jay]

I'm 1,80 I'm average

[jaunty pollen]

@tidal jayfurry

[tidal jay]

What

Why am I a furry

[stark idol]

Furry

[tidal jay]

@jaunty pollen and @stark idol are both furries

Y'all heard it here first!

[stark idol]

What the fuck

I am not a furry!

I’m a weeb, very distinct difference

[noble crow]

Кто может со мной пойти в пати а то я новичок и найти не могу с кем играть

[lost lynx]

#hc-europe message

[sudden folio]

first person to lose r2d2 in 2025 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[left roost]

we were the first to lose gang together

[vestal crystal]

Furry ...

[tidal jay]

What are you guys basing these claims off

[vestal crystal]

My source is that other guy...

[shut vapor]

The wikipedia list of furries

[sharp siren]

Happy new years prisoners

[smoky crag]

Bro where the fuck do you use the code

[low shell]

this is vague enough that i could make a joke on using creator code

[smoky crag]

i got the lobby id now where does my friend fucking put it

[low shell]

a red button appears to join lobby when u copy to clipboard

[smoky crag]

let me see

[burnt flume]

top left quadrant of the screen

ensure only the numbers got copied, and not any other characters like spaces

if it doesn't appear you may try entering a rundown screen and then returning to the rundown select screen

[low shell]

i usually just recopy the code

[lost lynx]

He just needs to copy the code

And a button Will appear

[smoky crag]

ok so i can't test it for myself?

[lost lynx]

Someone can make a lobby

And then send You the lobby code

So you can see

[smoky crag]

ok i get it now xd

why so complicated tho

[low shell]

bc its the first time you do it

[lost lynx]

It's not complicated

Make lobby
Share code
Copy code
Join

Its the same as You sent an invite through party chat

Or steam

[burnt flume]

It's quite an elegant solution but does not display much or tell you shit

[smoky crag]

yeah but if you were new you would assume there would be already a code to put it

[burnt flume]

basically the same as the rest of the game

opaque and confusing

[lost lynx]

Thats true yeah

This game just sucks at explaining everything

Oh wait

It doesnt even try at doing that

[unkempt frigate]

r5 is

definitely something

[lost lynx]

Really fun

[unkempt frigate]

Ive done most rundowns with PE

and I wasnt expecting to struggle with PE R5B1

Like it wasnt too hard but it was pain

[shut vapor]

Secondary drains you mentally from being giga boring

[proven garden]

7 wave reactor overload that is just standing there and not hunt codes

truly a thing

[unreal crystal]

reactor goes hard

[hasty bobcat]

it's fun tho

on the other hand I don't like sec

[pastel dagger]

at least r5b2 is fun

[burnt flume]

said nobody ever...

[honest parrot]

Is any level on R5... actually fun?

[brittle schooner]

r5d2 is gud

e1 is fine imo even without cell skip

[hasty bobcat]

ye d2 is the only level I could think of

[burnt flume]

r5d2 is alright

[hasty bobcat]

gunplay involved = level is good

imo

[mellow hedge]

c2 is decent

[lost lynx]

E1

[burnt flume]

a1 nostalgia, a2 kinda cool, a3 sucks, b1 sucks but funny big charger error, b2 sucks, b3 sucks but has an alright premise, b4 sucks but is alright, c1 sucks, c2 giga sucks like what the fuck, cool premise though, c3 also sucks, d1 we don't talk about, d2 is alright, e1 is cool

[daring ginkgo]

I liked r5 the most

[mellow hedge]

okay now rank the speeds

[burnt flume]

mine > yours

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[burnt flume]

where's the sub 9 thigh boy

where is it

[mellow hedge]

istg

if that tile didnt exist

[pastel dagger]

quad did

[mellow hedge]

i would have it

[hasty bobcat]

r8a1?

[burnt flume]

lmao ya that alarm tile is great, can't see shit

[pastel dagger]

and yea r5b2 is fun

especially in matchmaking

[mellow hedge]

what is b2

[burnt flume]

maybe when i get oestrogen and am very bored i try take the time even lower

GLPs main, uplinks secondary which starts an error and opens OVL, and OVL is OSIPs in inf fog

[hasty bobcat]

ew

[mellow hedge]

i have a 9:12 i think but i deleted the recording

[burnt flume]

they also removed all the fucking furniture and spitters from the first zone

[mellow hedge]

its in my splitter tho

[burnt flume]

not bad, not bad

[pastel dagger]

which 1st zone

[mellow hedge]

and i had a run like 20 seconds in front of wr

got fucked in key zone

[burnt flume]

thas how it works

[brittle schooner]

error after uplink secondary, overload getting stuff (i think glp i forgor) with infectious fog and spitters

[pastel dagger]

ну хз помоему охуенна

[burnt flume]

i think most my runs nowadays are around 9:02 pace, pretty difficult to consistently get something lower

or when i was still running, anyway

[mellow hedge]

i could get consisten sub 9 pace but would die or have no ammo

althoughhhhh

i didnt try with lowered graphics

[burnt flume]

not sure how much that'd help, could check in cconsole

[mellow hedge]

yeah i was gonna

[tidal jay]

Show me

[hasty bobcat]

такое

не фанат

[daring ginkgo]

screw this ov

and whole lvl, stupid fog

[brittle schooner]

oh osip ol and glp main right

well not like it rlly makes a diff what they're called

[daring ginkgo]

any level, that force me to look for things inside thick fog while error is active automatically in my black list

[brittle schooner]

is it thick as well? i just remember it was infectious

[rose nova]

it thick

[brittle schooner]

well there are fog repellers at least

im not saying its a gud lvl but i'd play it over smthin like r5b4 xd

[daring ginkgo]

why? r5b4 is cute little level

[rose nova]

tbh r5b2 is fine but it shouldve been the b4, or maybe even a c

even for r5 the placement is stupid

i guess hte main is excessively easy

but the ov is just stupid hard

[brittle schooner]

of the 33 mins of that lvl u legit spend 20 mins of it afk

[daring ginkgo]

target practice

[brittle schooner]

at that point i'd rather do r6c3 xd

[pastel dagger]

проблема скилла

[rose nova]

well id ratger do r6c1 than r5b2 if i want a level with an error and picking up objectives kmsdkm

like of course

[brittle schooner]

also the gigantic lag spike on r5b4 cause of the text 💀

[pastel dagger]

not really lmao

[brittle schooner]

ive only crashed twice while playing gtfo and both times were on r5b4

[hoary crescent]

r5b2 is fine if people split and everyone doesn't just stand with turbine

otherwise it takes so long lol

[rose nova]

r5e1 is really easy guys trust

[pastel dagger]

nice reach

[brittle schooner]

im comparing it to r5b4 not b2 xd

[rose nova]

also im talkin in the context of the placement, not just in general

[rose nova]

i guess thats fair yeah

[pastel dagger]

dafuq does that even mean

[rose nova]

u know when a b tier is made a b tier

and it is put in the b tier category

[pastel dagger]

r5b2 is fucking cakewalk

[rose nova]

i guess it shouldve replaced r5a3

[brittle schooner]

once u take into consideration PE ranking becomes wack

[rose nova]

idk r5 placements are tbh fine but it goes to shit in the b tier, like not the difficulty curve but rather how the difficulty goes between numbers and tiers

cuz r5bs are really easy apart from b1, so why its B1 the 1

like really

and then b2 is like A tier main and then casually B4 levels for ov

[hasty bobcat]

team r4e1 is a cakewalk

esp in duo

[rose nova]

so true sky (partial mute)

[hasty bobcat]

tq slendo [nogtfo version]

aka slendiman

[brittle schooner]

crazy

[pastel dagger]

partial cute xoxo

[hasty bobcat]

wHAT

[low shell]

sure, lets give it a try

[low shell]

partial cube

[hasty bobcat]

cube u need to train for another 100 years

[pastel dagger]

partial was a good mulligan

i dont know why we had to move to london

[low shell]

i mean i could, but i'd put that training into E2 first

[hasty bobcat]

no

don't

[low shell]

:c

but i like e2...

[hasty bobcat]

e2 duo is bad

2nd class 6 sucks

[low shell]

awh

i like stealthing until then tho

[mellow hedge]

e2 duo is fun

[hasty bobcat]

yeah and then u get 4 spawns not on sentry side

💀

[rose nova]

e2 more like e-duo am i right

[low shell]

yes

[rose nova]

:]

[low shell]

yes you are

[mellow hedge]

communicate reloads and dont get hit ez

[low shell]

i mean as long as i am the one with hel rifle i shouldnt do that many fuck ups

[junior latch]

lol
r5b2 is a super chill b tier

[hasty bobcat]

what were u running again

[rose nova]

dies

[junior latch]

r5b2pe isnt even the 2nd hardest b tier of r5

[mellow hedge]

i was hel pp scatter and bio and hange was hel shotty hel rifle and sentry

although thats probably the easiest way to do it

hange did it with jade with hel gun and bc

i think the 2nd class 6 is more fun then the first tbh

[hasty bobcat]

well yeah hel shotty makes diff ngl

[rose nova]

dont dont say that b3 is a joke really in difficukty, u just need mines and to not die in the final alarm ksmdkms

[mellow hedge]

hel pp more ngl

[rose nova]

main is like only hard 3 bots

[hasty bobcat]

naww

we're double sawed off so

[mellow hedge]

gl lmao

[hasty bobcat]

it's not that bad honestly

we died to split spawn i feel like

[mellow hedge]

yeah i mean

if you are running 1 sawed off you might as well run 2

[junior latch]

Its not lol

[mellow hedge]

the stagger from one main isnt really enough and should just go double damage gun

[hasty bobcat]

yeeee

[junior latch]

b3 is unironically somewhat tightish on ressources and has challenging moments

B2 isnt scary at any point bar maybe going into post alarm ovl zone

[mellow hedge]

but honestly e2 duo isnt that hard if you alarm skip

[junior latch]

Also r5b2 main isnt A tier

its a B tier. At least 1 blood door, multiple alarms. Scouts, giants

[rose nova]

the ovs the entire level like how in b3 the S alarm is the entire level

[hasty bobcat]

it's free

pmuch

[rose nova]

i forgot the blood door entirely ngl

[hasty bobcat]

as long as u get through first class 6

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[rose nova]

but it has like 2 scouts

well i guess one of those can wake up with the blood door

[junior latch]

I dont rly see this at all for either

[rose nova]

i mean- i just think the errors really easy, as long as ur team doesnt expect to fight the wave in the fog searching for the key

otherwise up until the very end its like, fine

and sec is like the memorable part

even if its kinda bad cuz 90 hour scan

[unreal crystal]

I’m pretty sure sawed off beats all mains for e2 duo

Specifically like

The class 6s

Cause theyre the only ones that matter right

we just did it with hel auto pp cause that was the strat back then

Didn’t really appreciate sawed off at the time

but im p sure you just win with 2 sawed off

Don’t think it matters if you take scattergun or burst cannon

The hel weapon special is the one shooting 80% of the time, other guy just covers the reloads

[hasty bobcat]

we'd still get overwhelmed sometimes

ngl my duo just died and u cannot kill fast enough with scatter sawed off

[brittle schooner]

if ur hel weapon dies im pretty sure ur just fked unless he dies with only a few enemies of a wave left

[hasty bobcat]

naww it was a full wave

[brittle schooner]

tbf hel auto pp helps getting lineups for the hel special

[hasty bobcat]

my duo died 3 times as host meanwhile me staying and just watching him ;_;

[brittle schooner]

then yea just fked xd

[brittle schooner]

rip

[brittle schooner]

u could maybe kite but then i think u just die to time

[hasty bobcat]

I did

it didn't help

we just can't kill 25 nightmares xd

[brittle schooner]

fair enuf xD

[mellow hedge]

reactor is just free with scatter

at keast you need to use some thinking for bc

[unreal crystal]

BC just slows you down

[mellow hedge]

yea

[unreal crystal]

but it pays off for kraken

[mellow hedge]

scatter still isnt useless at least for kraken

[hasty bobcat]

bottom tumor bless

[unreal crystal]

its not useless but BC is clearly better for kraken alone

its kinda easy to do it with any of these weapons as long as ur good at the game

[low shell]

instant pop

[compact surge]

hey guys kinda new to gtfo discord is there a strong community for this game

[hasty bobcat]

wdym by strong

[low shell]

also youre kinda in the gtfo server

[hoary crescent]

do you mean strong as in muscular?

if so i think you're in the wrong place

[proven garden]

eva sounds pretty muscular

[low shell]

i got strong dedication to bang my head on the wall

[lost lynx]

Strong yes

Big? Not really

[junior latch]

how does one sound muscular

[proven garden]

it's the accent

[low shell]

idk eva sounds chill

at least from the little i know from vids

[hasty bobcat]

germans always sound muscular

[low shell]

according to someone i know, germans sound like they're 40 yos

[shut vapor]

Eva is hench (trust me)

[compact surge]

strong as in alot of players able to find games type of thing

[shut vapor]

Well there aren't many of us to begin with but I'm sure you'll be able to find someone :D

[low shell]

thats called "active"

and its active enough during good hours

[muted yoke]

Why i can't interact with the hsu at r1a1

[hasty bobcat]

wrong hsu

or hitbox is just a bit bad

[muted yoke]

was trying to speedrun solo it again

messed up

[junior latch]

if right hsu, hitbox is a bit finnicky. Test a bit to learn for each hsu where you can pull from (with a specific look direction)

[low shell]

merry around the hsu

[hasty bobcat]

yes

[noble rose]

touch that hsu all over

for real 🗣️

[proven garden]

is there any level with a surge + sustain alarm

[burnt flume]

r4e1 alarm to zone 458

S1 surge

[rotund crown]

what are the best and worst environments?

both aesthetically and from a gameplay perspective

[near stag]

labs are just 🤢

doors with no frames for funny mines and annoying dead bushes that block you all the time

[rotund crown]

still better than datacenter

[near stag]

datacenter is labs, but with less annoying obsticles

[rotund crown]

and with boring tiles

[near stag]

define boring in this context

[rotund crown]

when i play level with datacenter they all look kinda the same

[near stag]

in places like R8C1 it does look good imho

[lost lynx]

Labs worst

[rotund crown]

i feel that labs levels can be more diverse

[lost lynx]

Nightmare dimension best

[rotund crown]

haven't played yet

[rotund crown]

also datacenter is a maze every time

[near stag]

game reuses like 90% of the assets lmao.

[rotund crown]

well yes

but sometimes they combine assets and form rooms that are a bit different?

[near stag]

[rotund crown]

like i don't know how to describe it

either im a schizo

or it is true

[rotund crown]

its floodways for me

i've played like 3? levels with it and i already had enough

[near stag]

floodways are bland, but not detrimental

[rotund crown]

they are too open

rooms fell like arenas

[near stag]

thats good tho. the sniper buff we needed

[burnt flume]

i think labs is much preferable over datacentre tbh

some cool datacentre tiles but the bad ones suck so much