gtfo-chat

[brittle schooner]

so? if anything it taught me how 2 deal with shadow scouts if there is also other stuff in da room xd

[hasty bobcat]

imagine actually going in and playtesting

tsk tsk

[brittle schooner]

i dont do it particularly often

[hasty bobcat]

i keep seeing u play r3a3

:3

[brittle schooner]

but i just used 2 not be able 2 kill shadow scouts for the life of me

[brittle schooner]

well thats not playtesting im actually trying 2 beat the lvl

but i sk

so

[hasty bobcat]

just med up wave 6

and pray

[verbal trout]

used to as in when you used to play with spear?

[hasty bobcat]

oh my god

[lunar island]

don't do scouts with the spear. it's a crutch.

you won't actually learn how to effectively deal with them

[hasty bobcat]

i hate how i was playing spear for first 200 hours

[brittle schooner]

yea lol, i fked up a fair amount of shadow scouts

it doesnt help im playing on like lowest settings pretty much

[lunar island]

wdym "lowest settings"?

[verbal trout]

ah yea laptop gaming

[hasty bobcat]

star please

[lunar island]

oh, you mean performance

[hasty bobcat]

we need high shadows

its so much better

[mystic moss]

you guys don't know how good you have it with scouts 😔

[verbal trout]

you will still be in my heart our main scout killer

[mystic moss]

they used to crouch for clients

[hasty bobcat]

[POSDGJKP[OAOSPJ[DG

[brittle schooner]

u have the advantage because of where u live

[hasty bobcat]

WHAT

[brittle schooner]

automoded

its so fucking hot where i live man

laptops become even more of a furnace

[verbal trout]

I had an alienware and everytime I played any game it became a portable nuclear reactor

[brittle schooner]

sounds about right

[verbal trout]

star

we are hitting ready or not

[junior latch]

gave us some of the most clutch moments too tho

[verbal trout]

joing us in the 5 man scuffle

[brittle schooner]

well im done with exams now and have about 2 week break

so sure

[burnt flume]

it was very consistent for them to crouch for host, rare for them to crouch for clients, but I suppose you mean the rare cases they would crouch and fuck you up

[hasty bobcat]

idm suffering with u if ur playing

@brittle schooner @verbal trout

[brittle schooner]

do u mean rdy or not?

or gtfo

[hasty bobcat]

gtfo

[brittle schooner]

i mean i got nothin rn

im just chillin

[verbal trout]

I can go aswell

[hasty bobcat]

same

[verbal trout]

but lemme take out the trash

[hasty bobcat]

yes take me out >~<

[brittle schooner]

no

[hasty bobcat]

okay maybe i need mental therapy

[brittle schooner]

maybe

[verbal trout]

yo bro you got some weird kinks

[hasty bobcat]

my bad cuh 😔

[verbal trout]

clobby we're going down to the mines

[proven garden]

what

[mystic moss]

don't worry about it

[analog flicker]

Me when no ifo

[hasty bobcat]

so real!!

[oak haven]

Is the rundown 8.0 last update or?

[lost lynx]

yes

[oak haven]

Is it a good desision to buy the game now?

[lost lynx]

yes

[oak haven]

oke

[lost lynx]

theres around 300-500 hours of content for new people

[oak haven]

Woah

Okay

[stark idol]

I can attest, I have 160 hours in the game and I’m only 34/83 missions

Then again, when I hit a wall, I just slam my head at it over and over until I win

I wouldn’t recommend it

[proven garden]

well we failed e1 again but at least we finally got the cell in zone 598 so we could get the achievement

[stark idol]

R2E1?

[proven garden]

ye

[stark idol]

What a level of all time

[proven garden]

truly

[stark idol]

(I hate the surge alarms)

[rose nova]

silly little scans

[stark idol]

Me when I see the entire Yakuza organization coming to eat my kneecaps during the class IV surge

[proven garden]

it wouldnt be that bad if it wasnt full team scans honestly

me when one of my friends doesnt dodge perfectly within infectious fog while carrying a turbine (i will have to kite for the next 5 minutes to try and res them)

[stark idol]

Honestly, just kick them real quick and move on

And then bring them back during the cluster scan

11/10 strategy, works every time (destroyed friendships included)

[proven garden]

yeah but if im gonna hop on the clear it legit train and not use ladder foam i might as well not kick them out and just rerun

[rose nova]

if only reconnected people actually reconnected alive lmao

and on u

instead of dead and wherever it is they were

[proven garden]

we had one time where we traded a bot for a friend who joined late and we were basically on the end of r1c2 and he spawned mid air at spawn zone

so he died to fall damage and we had to run a marathon back to him

[lost lynx]

Skill issue

[rose nova]

:]

[stark idol]

The most bug-free GTFO experience

[elder wharf]

R2E1 without ladder foam??

[junior latch]

yes?
the normal way

actual*

[elder wharf]

hm

I always foam the ladder

Seems like a realistic option tbf

but i'm not sure what's the durability of sleepers. Do they take no fall damage?

[hasty bobcat]

that'd be funny

whole surge just dies to fall damage

[elder wharf]

I mean

They have bones and are made of flesh

they die in one hit of a hammer to the head, just like we do

[hasty bobcat]

erm actually we die to 2,5 charges of hammer 🤓

[elder wharf]

Imma get a sledgehammer (maco gavel my beloved) and hit you in the head full power

[hasty bobcat]

thank you ♡

[elder wharf]

Tell me how much hp you'd have left

[upbeat yacht]

we don't even die, we are just a bit inconvenienced until a friend gives us a pat on the booboo

[hasty bobcat]

60

[elder wharf]

damn

what's the dmg multiplier for human occiput?

[hasty bobcat]

0 cuz there is no friendly fire

:3

[elder wharf]

I'm talking about irl

[hasty bobcat]

same

[elder wharf]

pain

[hasty bobcat]

how many ppl did u hammer

see

[elder wharf]

damn no gif i forgor

[hasty bobcat]

epic embed fail

[elder wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[hasty bobcat]

part 2

[elder wharf]

now this was 100% made for a joke

[junior latch]

realistically theyd just push the frozen guy aside

[elder wharf]

True comedian right here

[elder wharf]

True, but the realistically we'd be the safest at the bottom of the ladder. because that is a 3-4m fall

[hasty bobcat]

eva is it like

ladder cannot be used by more than one entity

or smth

in terms of enemies

[junior latch]

its a bit funky and not even a set amount

[elder wharf]

Nah they can group on the ladder and jump at the same amount

i've seen 3 giants just jump on it at the same time

for no reason

[hasty bobcat]

ye i've seen multiple stuff jumping in

[junior latch]

they can queue very quickly

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[junior latch]

ive seen up to 8 guys on it (while using ladder foam so counting was possible)

but the behaviour also changes when 2+ rooms away

so just dont quesiton it

[hasty bobcat]

oh right

[elder wharf]

Truly the mystery of the lore

[hasty bobcat]

its so fun kiting surge on r4e1

since they take 20 years to break one door

[elder wharf]

They're like light photons

if you look at them they behave differently

[stark idol]

Me when Young’s double slit experience but with sleepers confirms that there is interference when they’re not observed

[proven garden]

i just started getting a LOT of frame drops suddenly, nothing changed in config either

[high orchid]

gardens?

[proven garden]

nope

r1d1

i tried lowering graphics and enabling and disabling some stuff but nothing

[burnt flume]

i launch gtfo
computer gets BSOD

lol guess i'm not allowed to hurt myself playing this game

[stark idol]

I launch GTFO

Depression hits

Then the tank

And I’m on the ground

[silver spade]

Aka skill gapped

[stark idol]

Hey, I’m not that skill deprived

[silver spade]

Are you limited to only vanilla?

[hasty bobcat]

play aberration!!

[lost lynx]

You need to play modded rundowns with 200 error alarms and a tank surge with low ammo and at 1 HP with also immortal enemies that can't be foamed

[stark idol]

You mean Lockout 2?

[lost lynx]

Then we Will know You have at least a bit of skill

[stark idol]

This is the average GTFO experience

11/10

Would join the discord server again

[lost lynx]

same

[rose nova]

i never joined any discord B]

[shut vapor]

That's samdown

[high orchid]

or inferno

[analog flicker]

[lost lynx]

anime pfp spotted

[glacial anvil]

finally completed r8d2

[lost lynx]

Lets gooooo

[glacial anvil]

it makes me want to cry

i hate that level

[lost lynx]

You took like 1 year

But You did it

[glacial anvil]

yeah it took 1 year

:(

[lost lynx]

GGs

[glacial anvil]

now for e2

and then e1 secondary

[lost lynx]

E1 sec is like hella easy

It only adds a couple enemies and a snatcher i believe

[glacial anvil]

i see

[latent palm]

Its a banger level

E2 on the other hand

[mellow hedge]

just say ur bad

[glacial anvil]

It’s only a banger if u have good pubs

Most of the time

U do not have good pubs

[latent palm]

Im bad for duoing

[mellow hedge]

tbh i feel like e2 with alarm skip isnt that bad

[latent palm]

We got bad scan alarm

[lost lynx]

Alarm skip this

Alarm skip that

[lost lynx]

Out of bounds this and that

Just speedrun the fucking game then

[latent palm]

@near stag blud should had been using hel shotgun

[mellow hedge]

already did dumbass !!!!!

[lost lynx]

Good for you

Now let me do alarm skip in every single run

[mellow hedge]

[hasty bobcat]

i hate u 🥺

[hasty bobcat]

its so free

[blissful dome]

how mean

[hasty bobcat]

check his sticker

i hate it here

[blissful dome]

i know

:3

[crisp marlin]

ror2 spotted

[hasty bobcat]

i hate u chat

[blissful dome]

</3

[tidal jay]

I tried using Scattershot

Holy fuck it's uh

Annoying?

[hasty bobcat]

???

[tidal jay]

With the amount of ammo it has, when do I even want to use this thing?

Like, for tanks?

[hasty bobcat]

it one shots giants and hybrids

2 shots mom 4(3) shots tank

[tidal jay]

Oh.

Oh lord.

[hasty bobcat]

basically boss killer

[tidal jay]

Okay, that I did not know

Makes sense now

What's a good primary to pack along with it?

I was told Sawed off is insane

And it is

[hasty bobcat]

hel revo sawed off hel shotty

anything works

[tidal jay]

But... 2 shotguns like that don't feel good

Is Hel revo the only non shotgun you'd recommend?

[hasty bobcat]

ig carbine dmr

[tidal jay]

Is Dmr in a good state?

I love that weap

[hasty bobcat]

it's fine ig

[tidal jay]

I'll try that, thanks

[blissful dome]

h u h

its busted

[blissful dome]

i mean it still works well for smalls

[low shell]

even me with 10 hours of the game figured out its pretty good lmao

no idea why, i just knew its good

[proper iron]

broken gun fr

[low shell]

sniper does more damage thereforr better

[hasty bobcat]

needs a buff

[proper iron]

sniper better only for hybird

sadge

[low shell]

go behind the hybrid

[proper iron]

im gonna try it during r2d2 wave then

[low shell]

good luck

[proper iron]

ty

[low shell]

i wish to help

but am dingus and have other stuff to do

gopefully studying fot exams

[proper iron]

one day

[latent palm]

Why do you always remind me of Tom

[proper iron]

who?

[scarlet folio]

I did R8A1
:D

[proper iron]

oh i found him i once watch his video.i cant be that good

[scarlet folio]

who?

[proper iron]

just search tom this server you can find his video in media

[scarlet folio]

oh

[low shell]

good job

[scarlet folio]

w<

had alot of help
and I got used to csgo knife

and now can take down fast

[blissful dome]

gj

[hasty bobcat]

ifo

i need

20 mins

[blissful dome]

heyo

[hasty bobcat]

mk?

[blissful dome]

ok

[hasty bobcat]

what time is it for u

[blissful dome]

its 1 am

[hasty bobcat]

oops

are u awake

[proper iron]

teamsky?

[blissful dome]

goober

im awake

[hasty bobcat]

yeah teamsky

[blissful dome]

mostly

[hasty bobcat]

ifo have u seen my clear

3d1

[blissful dome]

yesss

i have

[hasty bobcat]

urs when

[blissful dome]

</3

[hasty bobcat]

chat u have more clears i believe

[blissful dome]

ughhhhhh

how many clears do you have

[hasty bobcat]

48

[blissful dome]

oh yea

fs

[hasty bobcat]

i trust

[blissful dome]

at least 10 more

thats sad

im sad

[hasty bobcat]

wdym

[blissful dome]

nothin

[hasty bobcat]

chattt

ur throwingggg

[proper iron]

always have been

[blissful dome]

</3

im forever hurt by your words

[hasty bobcat]

damn

any teamskyers in 20 mins

[proper iron]

which

[hasty bobcat]

what

[proper iron]

rundown

[hasty bobcat]

idk any

[scarlet folio]

R8B?

[hasty bobcat]

R8Balls my favorite level

[blissful dome]

r8e2

[hasty bobcat]

i hate it here

[low shell]

duo e2

[blissful dome]

:3

oh god

i hate it here

[hasty bobcat]

no

I'm bad

[low shell]

i am too

[proper iron]

same

[blissful dome]

no thats me

[low shell]

but that means i will never beat e2 therefore i can play the game forever

thats me when decaying winter too

teamsky is not bad
sky is bad

[scarlet folio]

aight
Lock in for R8
again

[hasty bobcat]

yes

[low shell]

team we need to assemble

and go out to buy pizza

[blissful dome]

hm

[scarlet folio]

hmmmst

[craggy copper]

Is hel revolver good?

[hasty bobcat]

yes

[scarlet folio]

ballin

[modern coral]

3rd best Main

[proper iron]

teamsky got cooked today

[hasty bobcat]

yea my b

[proper iron]

no me

told ya play ragnarok

[craggy copper]

Behind what?

[fringe garden]

sawed off and hel shotgun

[modern coral]

^

[craggy copper]

What are the top 3 special guns?

[modern coral]

Scattergun, HEL Rifle, HEL Gun

[craggy copper]

Hel op.

[modern coral]

Yep.

Pen is really good

[craggy copper]

I feel like hel machine pistol is better than the hel revolver personally.

Idk tho.

[modern coral]

It has much less damage

and range

[craggy copper]

But it cooler.

[analog flicker]

[hasty bobcat]

so real

[brittle schooner]

D:

[graceful geode]

It's very very good if your teammates are good at landing their shots

You can stagger whole damn waves of chargers with the HEL Autopistol.

Try to maximize the stagger rather than just full-autoing.

[analog flicker]

Hel auto is more a support stagger weapon than a damage weapon like Hel revo

[low shell]

tap/burst fire it

[analog flicker]

But hel auto full auto into enemies lined up is the best bet you'll get

[low shell]

ye

also omori pfp

[analog flicker]

The issue is just. Hel revo can just kill the same to more in less bullets and at further ranges

(Hel revo is the all rounder main weapon anyhow.)

[low shell]

as a squad hel auto pistol still shines a lot

[analog flicker]

Besides hel auto being better for a certain enemy type.

Because it's an automatic

[low shell]

i wanna try to do levels with full team of hel auto pistol

everything is staggered

[unreal crystal]

ppl who run hel auto pp as their gimmick are honestly just not worth in 4 man content

it is quite literally pointless

[low shell]

wheh?

[unreal crystal]

you benefit so much more from ppl running any of the 3 strongest primaries

[low shell]

eh

[unreal crystal]

im tempted to make a short video shitting on "support" players

because it is just a deadweight role in this game

[low shell]

listen if i am not shooting often to begin with, idfk what you want from me

[analog flicker]

Typically if someone if running hel auto imo. The team is lacking that actual good weapons aren't cutting it.

[low shell]

i am not that helpful to begin with

also stunning chargers is pretty gud

they tend to line up

[unreal crystal]

i can stagger chargers with a hel revo

[proper iron]

just kill it

[unreal crystal]

a sawed off

i can actually kill them with both of those

funnily enough

[low shell]

i'd prob stagger them then reload my special lmao

[unreal crystal]

as for you not shooting often

[low shell]

hel rifle moment

[unreal crystal]

it depends on the situation

[low shell]

ye

[lost lynx]

Fuck meta

I'll keep running hel pistol

[proper iron]

team how to properly dodge and kite i ruined r4e1 teamsky

[analog flicker]

rip

[unreal crystal]

turn to stagger enemies

[lost lynx]

You install wemod

And turn ON god mode

[unreal crystal]

know where to go to reroute enemies

dont jump it wastes stam

dont dash it wastes stam

[analog flicker]

heroic heart

But yeah

[unreal crystal]

ngl people still die with heroic heart

[lost lynx]

Wemod speed hack is better

[analog flicker]

Most that take it are bad tbf

[unreal crystal]

mhm

[proper iron]

what does heroic heart do

[unreal crystal]

can give u infinite stam

like old days

[analog flicker]

Most ppl that use heroic heart do inf Stam ye. Some try to justify that they fixed it to 100 flat instead of max Stam.

[lost lynx]

💀

I smell skill issue

[wicked dagger]

Hello everyone

does somebody know how to find a team?

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lost lynx]

#how-to-matchmake

[analog flicker]

Yeah. Not a lot of ppl on right now.

[lost lynx]

Its saturday morning for NA and afternoon for Europe

[elder wharf]

I swear people stopped reading

[lost lynx]

NA is either sleeping or dead

[analog flicker]

Ppl can read?

[lost lynx]

EU is doing EU things

[elder wharf]

I don't know what's so hard to scroll down and find #how-to-matchmake

[wicked dagger]

thank you

lol is he bot?

[lost lynx]

Yes

[analog flicker]

Because ppl don't go through and enable everything in #Channels and Roles.

:P

[elder wharf]

Why is #how-to-matchmake not an innate channel for a discord made specifically for matchmaking??

[analog flicker]

shrugs

[lost lynx]

The same reason why LFG chats are not ON by default

This server sucks

[analog flicker]

Ppl sued Discord for not being able to find the unsubscribe from nitro. I'm not surprised.

[elder wharf]

I've had to stop and realise not many people use discord that often

[lost lynx]

Why buy nitro when vencord exist

:)

(or better discord)

[elder wharf]

But still, the basics of internet illiteracy astound me

It's not even that, it's just impatience

[rose nova]

everything that fucks discord will benefit me

[elder wharf]

Will i benefit you?

[analog flicker]

And there's billions of ppl :P all kinds of ppl

[lost lynx]

We are not fucking discord

[elder wharf]

Not with that attitude

[rose nova]

pablo is asexual

[lost lynx]

Wtf is asexual

[elder wharf]

You are a sexual

[wicked dagger]

I can not find a good team

[elder wharf]

I think being sexual means sexxing sex

[rose nova]

that u have no interest in sex :3

[wicked dagger]

most of them think that GTFo is an easy game

[rose nova]

u no wanna fuck discord

smh

[lost lynx]

I can't fuck an app

If i could i would

[rose nova]

not with that attitude

[elder wharf]

As i said, skill issue, not with that attitude

[lost lynx]

😔

Ill cry now

[elder wharf]

I've had quite a sad moment when i realised there's only 3 art pieces of GTFO on r34. And they are all scouts

[rose nova]

if u mean they r like breezing through the game or something- i always recommend asking specifically to not b carried
[also i imagine u come from matchmaking so u cna use the LFG channels in this server]

[lost lynx]

Yeaaaah same

[rose nova]

be the change you wanna see in the world

[sharp owl]

Im trying to tell a guy with 200 hours to stop running spear…..

[rose nova]

hows that going

[lost lynx]

I mean
Is it really that bad?

[elder wharf]

It is

[sharp owl]

Not well

[lost lynx]

Sploff managed to get far with spear

[elder wharf]

Hammer superior

Hammer is the best weapon in the game

Intended way of bonk

[rose nova]

its fine just not benefitial if u constantly melee awoken enemies

[sharp owl]

Me stating “its the worst melee”
His response
“Its cracked”

[rose nova]

u gotta do numbers to convince people

[elder wharf]

What rundown is he on?

[lost lynx]

R9

[sharp owl]

R-1

-1

-1

-1

[elder wharf]

[rose nova]

tell em spear is 17.5 dmg vs hammers 20 and that the prec multi doesn't make u charge less or something

[sharp owl]

He isnt verified here so i cant fucking ping him

[rose nova]

u just need to use facts and logic

[elder wharf]

You can tell him that he can't run and charge.

With the spear

[rose nova]

explain the stamina issue the running the low base dmg and

[sharp owl]

I DID

HE SAID

[rose nova]

uh what else is spear bad in?

[sharp owl]

“I don’t use spear during combat”

[elder wharf]

Has he done a surge alarm?

[rose nova]

oh yeah the shove uses stamina

[elder wharf]

🙂

[rose nova]

should take em to r2c2

and see what happens

[lost lynx]

Oh man

[sharp owl]

He has 200 hours and didnt even know about short range and long ranger aggro….

Ill fix him

[rose nova]

i mean not like the game says it tbh not surprised

[elder wharf]

I mean he probably played casually

[sharp owl]

[elder wharf]

To get good at the game you gotta find 3rd party resources

Like the wiki and youtube

[rose nova]

theres things to know and things that are more obvious- short and long aggro and very... non explained

[sharp owl]

Shit i need to explain reload cancel

[elder wharf]

Just show him scaler's tutorials

They should be enough

[sharp owl]

He didn’t know about just aggroing a room and placing a mine

[sharp owl]

HE DID WATCH THEM

HELP

[elder wharf]

And still uses spear????

[sharp owl]

YES

[rose nova]

do they use mines at all

[rose nova]

why would watching scaler stop them

[elder wharf]

Then i guess it's an artistic choice

[rose nova]

scaler has a melees vid where he says spear is fine

[sharp owl]

I dont even know man

[elder wharf]

Because scaler is a hammer knife main

Knife main specifically

[rose nova]

only hammer when there wasnt a knife in the game

[elder wharf]

You can go quite fast with hammer and knife because you can run and one shot a lot of enemies

With spear it's just slow

[sharp owl]

@undone glade

[rose nova]

and bat

damn

[elder wharf]

Sure you can get 2 enemies at once if they line up, but a hammer is still better

[sharp owl]

I cant even ping him

wait

Hes verified

[rose nova]

u can do that with every melee

it is not easier with spear

[sharp owl]

@undone glade STOP USING SPEAR

[rose nova]

damn tryhard [jk ksmdk]

[proper iron]

let him do what he want!!

[rose nova]

ill admit i used spear quite a bit towards my last hours playing, cuz cuz idk i wanted to experiment and it felt a lot better than i remember it being

its still bad

but i i get it

[sharp owl]

I find it funny that he said “i can solo a giant with a spear!” So proudly and I just said, i can solo a giant with a knife

[elder wharf]

I mean let him play with spear, but still always nag that hammer is better

[lost lynx]

Spear was my first love

[sharp owl]

Ruined his dreams

[lost lynx]

Too bad she sucked

[rose nova]

ok but ones much easier it is not a necessary skill but cmon ksmdkm

[elder wharf]

I mean hammer is superior when it comes to enemy combat, besides huge small groups

[proper iron]

meanwhile me hammer occi and backshot

[sharp owl]

Gtfo players gotta know their place

[elder wharf]

Knife is quite nice for chargers though

[rose nova]

huh?

[elder wharf]

The fact that one fully charged backshot and 2 other normal backshots kill it

[lost lynx]

BACKSHOTS

[elder wharf]

It's faster than hammer

[sharp owl]

One back and one normal hit

[rose nova]

one slash

[elder wharf]

Oh it's one normal slash?

[rose nova]

one charged hit to the back while snoozin and one slash

[elder wharf]

Type shit

[proper iron]

cause more % long range aggro

[sharp owl]

Just melee bait a tank

[elder wharf]

Just kill it why bait

[sharp owl]

Melee only tank kill

[elder wharf]

I can solo a giant with a hammer without waking up the room and getting hit solid 70% of the time

[sharp owl]

We need to mom gun the scatter

[rose nova]

i can, bat

bat shadows

i am incredible

[elder wharf]

I mean bat is perma stagger on normal hits lol

[sharp owl]

I spent 100 days in GTFO!

[proper iron]

did you use bucket?

[rose nova]

gerz is now gonna come and tell me every insult known to man for saying bat is cool

i am now support

[sharp owl]

Shaeffer bucket when i push it over

[elder wharf]

I think if you have a full stack wanting to play for more than 2 hours a day. You can beat GTFO in 2-3 weeks

[sharp owl]

Does he know

[elder wharf]

From r1a1 to r8e2

[lost lynx]

.t skill issue

[rose nova]

hah u just got a dm

[sharp owl]

/e dance

[proper iron]

meanwhile spiff take an entire year

[lost lynx]

8 months*

[rose nova]

the whole game technically knowing everything is about 50 hours but obv thats speedrunning and not failing at all

so no i doubt it

[elder wharf]

He took a whole year because they couldn't match their times

[rose nova]

if they are new, no

[lost lynx]

For a single level

[elder wharf]

He said so in his video

[rose nova]

still 100 hours of e2

[lost lynx]

The average casual GTFO team

[elder wharf]

There's more that 50 hours per week

[rose nova]

ur not getting my point

50 speedrunning

[proper iron]

we need gitgud time team

[lost lynx]

Nah

[elder wharf]

3 weeks is 508 hour

You subtract the sleeping hours that's 340 hours of gtfo for 3 weeks

[rose nova]

they would need like prime knowledge of the game
lets say 4 hours a day 3 weeks thats 84 but even so a normal player gets to r1 and part of r2 and r3 with that time and

maybe

cuz people like to bang their head against r2

[elder wharf]

I think i got like

70 hrs in the game and I'm 80% done with r4 PE

[rose nova]

getting carried does not count

[elder wharf]

I wasn't carried

[rose nova]

we talkin 4 players who are complteley new right

they would need to learn every mechanic to even have a chance

[elder wharf]

I was completely new to the Game

I beat r1 during the free weekend last year

R2 i did it in this server with a friend and 2 randoms

Same with r3

[proper iron]

i doubt that 2 randoms

[rose nova]

i guess u had all sorts of knowledge about the game or incredibly good teammates ina free wekend i got 2 levels with about 7 hours of gaming

no- i got one level

r7a1

i died repeatedly on b1

[elder wharf]

4 completely new people to the game

My friend and i did R1A1 duo

We got teammates on R1C1 because it was too hard for duo

Like the first rundown is easy if you just open the map and plan

[rose nova]

im not believing u did an entire rundown in a single free weekend without any knowledge, r1 takes about 6 hours in the first place, most people take like more than 10 hours on it because of the fails

unless u played like literally 60 out of the 72 hours

[elder wharf]

My hours are non afk

[junior latch]

Show him us shitting on spear in the melee ranking video lol

[elder wharf]

I'll just call skill issue on that

R1 isn't that hard

[unreal crystal]

real

[sharp owl]

Lmfao

[elder wharf]

I have prior fps experience

[sharp owl]

I will

[rose nova]

r1 may not be that hard but gtfo is hard to learn

[elder wharf]

It isn't

[rose nova]

i guess good aim can take u places

[elder wharf]

It isn't hard to learn

You just have to want to learn and experiment

[rose nova]

ah yes long range aggro back dmg good weaponry enemy patters tool usage isnt hard to learn

[elder wharf]

Yes like range aggro, one video was enough for me to learn it

[rose nova]

there we go

[elder wharf]

You're acting like it's impossible to learn it

[lost lynx]

The only reason on why GTFO is hard to learn
Is because the game doesnt tell You anything

[unreal crystal]

you dont need those to beat r1 tho realistically

[glacial anvil]

R8d2 😢

[rose nova]

one video is- more than enough to change entirely how u play

[unreal crystal]

long range just speeds up stealth

[glacial anvil]

The bane of my existence

[lost lynx]

Once You learn the mechanics you can pretty much do anything in a reasonable time

[glacial anvil]

Slendo i finally cleared it

[elder wharf]

Took me 15 mins to learn about stealth in this game to stop permacrouching

[rose nova]

at least tool usage

[elder wharf]

And then r2 became easy up until e1

[rose nova]

for c1

[rose nova]

:3 ggs

[unreal crystal]

what, placing sentries down in the one direction enemies come from?

[lost lynx]

E2 time

[rose nova]

foaming the corridor on c1 and putting mines

or closing doors without anything on them

[glacial anvil]

I enjoy e2 much more

[unreal crystal]

on r1c1

the reactor level

[elder wharf]

For c1 you just need to think where you're placing your turrets and how to use the biotracker

[rose nova]

the seconds in general sorry

[elder wharf]

No foam needed

[rose nova]

shouldve said

[rose nova]

yeah most new people dont agree immediately

they fail 2 3 times before picking up the three sentries

[elder wharf]

I stared using foam around r2

[glacial anvil]

R1

[rose nova]

and its usually 2 autos

[glacial anvil]

2 burst 1 sniper

[elder wharf]

Mine, tracker and 2 burst turrets carried till r2 and then i fell in love with foam

[rose nova]

i kno im not the newie ksmdkms

[proper iron]

saw streamer play GTFO they always pick autosentry for some reason

[glacial anvil]

I know hehe

[rose nova]

they always do much text goes omg must be amazing

[glacial anvil]

It’s cus they think it shoots big

Also

Mines >>>>

I love mines

[proper iron]

big mislead

[elder wharf]

It says fully automatic. But one look at what it's doing and you see it's only good for staggering. Not for killing enemies

[glacial anvil]

Tripmine damage boosters are so fucking dumb

[elder wharf]

Burst my beloved is the killing machine

[lost lynx]

Streamers are weird man

[rose nova]

i genuenilt started thinking the less text a gun or tool has, the more they avoid it
like carbine, mines, burst sentry, etc etc etc

big text goes omg

[glacial anvil]

Why tho

[lost lynx]

Because

[glacial anvil]

Mines go crazy

I always take mines

[rose nova]

no idea people dont read i guess

[junior latch]

They will and have always taken the worst sentry

Og r5: burst
Og r6: auto
and since shotgun sentry is out, shotgun with auto sentry here and there

[glacial anvil]

Shotgun sentry

It’s a fun sentry

Not a good sentry

Unless that’s changed

[lost lynx]

We are in an age internet iliteracy is getting worse

:D

[proper iron]

shotgun sentry with back mutiply lets gooo

[glacial anvil]

Not exist anymore

[junior latch]

But it kills so well and shoots so much!

You just dont know what you are talking about. Bullpup, spear, auto sentry is a great loadout

[elder wharf]

And bio scan dmg boost

[glacial anvil]

45% of americans can’t read above a 6th grade level or something

[junior latch]

funniest shit is shill shotgun sentry doing 4x friendly fire

[elder wharf]

I burned myself on the bulpup. Was severely disappointed it was so weak. Pistol my beloved

[junior latch]

Americans on average speak less than 1 language on a fluent+ level

[glacial anvil]

Imma troll my teammates with this shit

[rose nova]

i should do an experiment where i put new players and measure how much they read the text and how much they lean into picking the ones who just have long text

[glacial anvil]

Yeah lol

[lost lynx]

[rose nova]

new players actually tend to pick hel weapons a LOT, but discard them immediately cuz usually its hel gun or hel rifle and dislike the charge up

[elder wharf]

My friend and i read. That's why we zoomed through the first rundown

[rose nova]

and in mains, not only autos but the pump shottie

[elder wharf]

Reading is not hard it's just time consuming

[rose nova]

can i ask how many hours it took u to finish r1 that weeekend

[lost lynx]

People asking for the list of commands
When the terminal says Type COMMANDS to see the list and details

[junior latch]

new players prefer picking known names for guns

So revolver, machine guns, sniper

[elder wharf]

Gonna pull up the achievement on steqm

[unreal crystal]

new players based for the revo pick tbh

[elder wharf]

Lemme boot up my pc

[junior latch]

its why sniper is so high pickrate

And why nerfing it for pickeate is yikes

[junior latch]

Its a rly fun gun
Imagine if 15 dmg

[unreal crystal]

honestly

15 damage is all id do to it in vanilla environment

15.1

[elder wharf]

If i remember correctly it took us the full free weekend to complete r1

[rose nova]

i mean i didnt expect less

[junior latch]

Yup

[rose nova]

beating it 2 days wouldve been, a thing

[elder wharf]

I mean we didn't play for 10 hours a day.

[junior latch]

id prefer nerfing some op guns and buffing weak stuff to roughly a similar level for mains / specials each

[rose nova]

isnt- isnt that what balancing means

[lost lynx]

Buff AR

[rose nova]

buffin weak guns and nerfin op guns

[lost lynx]

[proper iron]

we need soul sniper and grenade launcher

[unreal crystal]

hard to say what id do really

im inclined to just buff the weak shit and keep the generally op stuff the same with the exception of scatter tbh

[junior latch]

if you are gaming R1C1 and D1 are the only missions I think can lead to a repeat run as they throw in „new“ surprising things than you gotta clutch or learn

[rose nova]

when i did a sheet for balancing weapons i first did a starting one with funky changes then saw vanilla reloaded and i just like, copied it

[unreal crystal]

i like where hel gun is at, maybe you can reduce ammo and make reload slower

but i wouldnt wanna make drastic changes cause it just makes the guns feel worse

[rose nova]

c2 tho kinda

final alarm is funk

[unreal crystal]

i think really you should just make the weaker guns stronger

[junior latch]

nerf scatter obviously (i prefer the prec multi nerf)

and imo nerf hel weapons by ammo ammount. Let them be strong but more limited on ammo by a tad

[rose nova]

0.3 charge,,,

[unreal crystal]

id play 0.3 charge

[junior latch]

Ya

[proper iron]

if we dont consider about reload cancel. maybe its balance ?

[unreal crystal]

but its evident other ppl would not lol

[elder wharf]

I mean in D1 the only hard thing is relying on your biotracker guy

[rose nova]

reload cancel can be changed for balance too

rifle moment

[junior latch]

my only drastic nerfs would be

Sawed off (back to 3 mag)
Scatter (prec multi)

[rose nova]

hel rifle, out the rundown

[unreal crystal]

the rifle nerf will never not make me mad

[junior latch]

if they dont know about shadows there will be panic
And if people down with shadows it can lead to a wipe

[unreal crystal]

wasnt even the strongest of the primaries and yet it got nerfed

[rose nova]

i wouldve nerfed the stagger to make it similar to pistol but with that disadvantage, and maybe back to 16?

[elder wharf]

We got wiped on the shadow surge the first time

[junior latch]

Its even funnier cuz it wasnt even in patchnotes

And it was just after i talked about how rifle reload cancel was the fastest with pdw reload cancel nerf

[junior latch]

Surge?

[rose nova]

it not a surge it just an alarm

[elder wharf]

They continue going after the reactor in d1

Until the end

[junior latch]

thats not a surge

[elder wharf]

It's all shadows

[rose nova]

thats an extract alarm

[junior latch]

thats an error

[proper iron]

its called error

[elder wharf]

Oh

[rose nova]

surge is is the funny r2e1 thing

[junior latch]

the error starts once alarm is over

[elder wharf]

My fault terminology got fucked up

[rose nova]

its ok i got it confused a fuck ton too

[elder wharf]

But yeah, i sent the screenhot of the completion in #gtfo-media

[rose nova]

guys whats an S Surge Moderate Mixed VII alarm

oh wait it wouldnt be M if it was S

fuck

[proper iron]

Surge M im cooked

[rose nova]

yeah i mean it doesnt say much about the hours but tbh that was an unreasonable question to ask

my bad

no ones gonna fuckin remember

[elder wharf]

Around 4-6 hours a day

So in around 12-ish hours

[proper iron]

i like 🙂 alarm

[rose nova]

i- i guess thats reasonable

good aim takes u places

very advanced places

[elder wharf]

Turrets carried us

I'm not even joking

[rose nova]

... good turret aim takes u pla- nah they do

[elder wharf]

I am a torb main in ow lol

[rose nova]

r1 should have more rooms to use doors on

not just hallways

[elder wharf]

I know how to place turrers. I taught everyone else lol

[junior latch]

Torb the goat

[elder wharf]

And i do have to admit my friend with very good aim did save my ass a couple of times

[junior latch]

and hammond (zen/lucio for tryhard tho)

[elder wharf]

At least i got my first scout melee kill without being noticed on the 2nd day of free trial

[junior latch]

r1 levels are all very doable sub 2 hours even with 3+ fails

So 12 hours is very achievable

[rose nova]

i wanna be tracer im already tracer

[elder wharf]

12 hours for completely new players

[junior latch]

r1c1 is usually the hurdle since people dont adapt

And r1d1 punishes ass planning and stealth both somewhat

[elder wharf]

No prior experience in gtfo

I did duo till c1 with my friend

It was way too hard to do it duo

[rose nova]

d1 shouldve had 3 scouts int he reactor room

no enemies

just 3 scouts

r7b2 style

[elder wharf]

That would've been too easy then

You just hammer the scouts for free

[junior latch]

B2 is the 1 thats a challenge duo early on of the 3

[elder wharf]

It was

[rose nova]

teaches players who just went through the stealth rooms activating everything

to not do that

[elder wharf]

We died quite often on it

[rose nova]

u either melee scout or u get 2 waves

plus no more res zones

really d1 shouldnt have that third res room either tbh

[elder wharf]

Now I'm washed and can't aim in gtfo for shit

[junior latch]

No
They have a beginner basically brain off and touch easily avoidable tentacles or hit scout low charged

Then get 3 waves

[elder wharf]

Once i learned you can kill the scout with a fully charged hammer shot. I gave up the spear

[rose nova]

well skill issue

[elder wharf]

It was hammer time from then on

[rose nova]

ok maybe not in the reactor

but

r1 couldve used

that typical scout room in other rundowns

it really couldve used it

[elder wharf]

R1 was a nice introduction to game mechanics

Now for r2e1. That was so funny. I almost beat the level first try

One guy was struggling omega hard on that level. My friend and one other person were playing with him, and i had time to join them

I was faking i had experience on the level playing bio tracker

It went well up until the last room scatter scan

We got overwhelmed

And then 3 days later beat the level

[rose nova]

man, and it took me like 5 6 tries to do d1

and only did e1 cuz ando is goated

[elder wharf]

I mean that guy knew everything that was waiting for us in the level

So there were no surprises only positioning and shooting

I beat the level again with some other people 2 weeks ago

Was significantly easier than i remember

[rose nova]

oh a- partial carry i guess
idk i just call those carries when they tell u everything

[unreal crystal]

great level

always chill to play

[elder wharf]

It's not really a carry

I could've went on the wiki and looked up what's waiting in the level

[rose nova]

"omg im never touching this level again i died os many times-" me playing it 2 days later:

haha r1c2 goes we

[elder wharf]

But i like going in blind and experiencing

That's why i had to settle for r4c2 secondary instead of PE

[unreal crystal]

carries arent necessarily just somebody knowing the whole level tho

[rose nova]

i mean its- its certainly a lot easier
reading the wiki will give u a huge advantage but not as much cuz most things are not very explained either

[unreal crystal]

not saying u were carried, i wasnt there and i dont care if u were or werent

[elder wharf]

I beat the level fair and square

[unreal crystal]

but its a lot of general gtfo knowledge

[rose nova]

i mean they already beat it

2 weeks ago

so like shure

if it was or not it doesnt matter any longer

[unreal crystal]

i can know what all the parts of a level are like say idk

lets say theres a class 6 alarm in some level, an error with like 6 smalls and uhhhhhhhh

a surge at the end

[elder wharf]

I mean I had 2 weeks of gtfo experience, and I watched basically every scalers guide there is. I was balling and just needed to find someone to play with

I beat r3 PE 4 days after clearing r2

Only thing I'm still missing is people to play with consistently

[rose nova]

i guess a more- explicit caarry is not only saying everything that happens but also telling players exactly how to play it
theee "so u put ur sentry here when we go in run right then front then left open the door is an alarm so mine foam those 4 doors-" idk something something

this is picking dictionaries off their pages

[elder wharf]

Then I'd say it was a semi-carry. Because i placed tools where i wanted to

[unreal crystal]

i can go into the level knowing this, but i dont know what the tiles are, i dont know how they all connect and such so im gonna have to wing knowing positioning for holding error, spots for sentries for the alarms, and if stuff goes wrong i might not be able to clutch up because im not personally very experienced

[elder wharf]

Only the level knowledge and what's awaiting us

It was still hard though

But fun

[rose nova]

thats like reading the wiki yeah

goddamn they dont even saay if an alarm has different enemies

[elder wharf]

And he taught me the ladder foam for future levels

[unreal crystal]

oh.

[elder wharf]

And that's it

[unreal crystal]

[rose nova]

oh i forgot ur the ladder foam person

riiiiiight

[elder wharf]

I wasn't the foam guy on the level

[unreal crystal]

that certainly makes r2e1 a lot easier

[elder wharf]

I was the bio tracker

[rose nova]

i mean the ladder foam team i guess then

[elder wharf]

I always play bio on r2e1

[rose nova]

u talked about ur first clear being foam ladder

right

and how u would beat it without it later

[elder wharf]

Yeah

[rose nova]

yeah...

i remember now

[elder wharf]

It was a very fun level nonetheless

[rose nova]

well shit

[upper loom]

just do 3 sentries

it's genuinely not even that much harder than c foam

[rose nova]

i forgot- i completely forgot about that thats why got to the end n shit lmao

right

[elder wharf]

I did it the 2nd time with more experienced people and the teamwork was stellar

[muted prairie]

I'm struggling to understand something just looking at this conversation, is foam ladder considered cheating or something?

[unreal crystal]

its just kinda cringe

[elder wharf]

No one got downed from fights, but from fall damage from goofing off

[unreal crystal]

very cheesy strat which gets way more value off the amount of tool used compared to anything else

[elder wharf]

It's not a cheat, but makes the level piss easy

[rose nova]

its an exploit pretty much

[unreal crystal]

and it makes a level like r2e1 very boring

[muted prairie]

Oh, so its an unintended bug?

[elder wharf]

It's a feature

[rose nova]

not a bug... moreso an unintended mechanic?

[muted prairie]

Mhm...

...Ooh

[rose nova]

idk how to describe it very well

[muted prairie]

Right

[lost lynx]

if someone uses ladder foam they suck

thats all

[elder wharf]

But yeah, we did still foam but not the ladder foam

[lost lynx]

dont use it ;3

[rose nova]

yeah

[muted prairie]

I still don't get why though

Considering everything the game throws at you, and how the devs make the levels,

If something like that is available,

[rose nova]

no?

[muted prairie]

Why is it seen as an exploit-

?

[lost lynx]

oh then i guess he should do door glitch too

[rose nova]

the devs make levels to be beatable without it

[elder wharf]

Because it is a very very big exploit

[unreal crystal]

the level is honestly easy as hell without it

[rose nova]

not everything that the game throws at u makes it so u can just, noclip

or ladder foam

[lost lynx]

wemod moment

[muted prairie]

Okay...

[elder wharf]

I mean yeah, straight line heaven

[muted prairie]

So its a bug..

I thought it was a feature is what I mean

[rose nova]

ladder foam is just literally a mechanic to prevent all enemies for like more than a minute

[unreal crystal]

nah its not a feature

[muted prairie]

And I'm not saying its impossible to beat without it

[unreal crystal]

its a bug

[muted prairie]

Okay

Got it

Yeah that makes sense now

[rose nova]

i guess its a bug...

[unreal crystal]

or at the very least, unintended behaviour

[muted prairie]

Right

[unreal crystal]

its not something the devs made intentionally

[lost lynx]

isnt that consider an exploit?

[muted prairie]

Now I get it, cuz to me it just seemed like it was clowning on a strat that was a little more favourable to the player

But

A bug that the devs didn't intend

[rose nova]

yeah more so unintended- cuz there was a time where enemies couldnt be touched at all in ladders right
and then they like reverted it and now it is just a side symptom of that

[muted prairie]

Is indeed exploiting a bug, yeah

[unreal crystal]

honestly at this stage i play r2e1 just to farm clears

so if someone ladder foams i dont have the energy to care anymore

but it used to be pretty big

when it was first discovered

[elder wharf]

I think it's because only a certain amount of enemies can be grouped on the bottom/top of a ladder to stop swarming in tight spaces making it unfair. And foam then abuses that by making the enemies stay in the area where they shouldn't swarm, so the enemies just wait until the ones on the bottom de foam. Making the foam very very strong because the enemies on the bottom can get re foamed

[lost lynx]

@true pilot promiss me we wont ladder foam again in R2E1 👉 👈

[burnt flume]

it's unintended behaviour that literally stops enemies from reaching you for a few minutes, i've said many times it's like a limited duration doorbug

[muted prairie]

Right