gtfo-chat

[lost lynx]

its monday for me

[hasty bobcat]

3 am rn

[lost lynx]

skull issue

go to sleep mf

[hasty bobcat]

doing that rn

ty

[mellow turtle]

Question

Is there a way or a specific Bot command to control the VC I am in?

[pine root]

If your looking to kick someone because of troll

@foggy plank can help

[rose nova]

in the meantime disconnect and block- try n create a new vc, u can always edit ur lfg message with the new link

[mellow turtle]

Thanks!

[brittle bobcat]

my game has been frozen for a long time

[lost lynx]

Close the game?

[brittle bobcat]

yeah but i lost all my progress on the level

[lost lynx]

Welcome to GTFO

[brittle bobcat]

😭

[brittle bobcat]

how do i get skins

[lost lynx]

There isnt skins

If You mean the cosmetics then You get one random drop per level

And only for the first completition

[brittle bobcat]

oh

[hoary yacht]

wait srsly?

[pine root]

Ye

[lost lynx]

Yes

[pine root]

happens every Tuesday

[hoary yacht]

aw man

no wonder why I am lagging so hard that and combined with heavy rain earlier

[lost lynx]

Im pretty sure maintenance hasnt started yet

Lol

[hoary yacht]

must have been my wifi getting all fvked up then

[lost lynx]

That or the host shitting itself

[hoary yacht]

I can see that

IF joining LFG should I go depending of what country I am or any?

[lost lynx]

It doesnt matter as long as You have a decent internet

[hoary yacht]

ah yep meaning I dont have it for now

thx man

[lost lynx]

[hoary yacht]

must admit the game is good but the amount of lag I experienced throughout the sectors are killing me

[lost lynx]

Some funny stuff happens when you get desynch

You can even become immortal

[hoary yacht]

I can see that happening lol

[worthy flicker]

Last time a desync happened an alarm door locked shut behind me and we had to reset 45 minutes in

Was very cool, 10/10

[deep flint]

I understand the love for the Hel Revo now

Burst Cannon’s lit too against big boys like giants or scouts

Idk if Hel Revo is enough for crowds for me to comfortably pair it with the BC tho. Didn’t really reflect on that.

[low shell]

hel revolver is like destiny hand cannons for me
sure i got good enough to use it, but its still not comfy nor my playstyle

burst cannon is silly

[deep flint]

Whaddya mean silly

Smh can’t appreciate a good brrt

I tried Hel Shotty and Burst Cannon and I didn’t like not having a readily available precise option

Burst cannon is more precise with its singular projectile per shot but not the most ammo efficient if you try and hit everything at range with it. And having to get close as shit to everything to hit more than 1 pellet on the hel shotty wasn’t my thing

[low shell]

its my fav special weapon

also 1 shots giants from the back, i love tha

[deep flint]

It’s ttk on giants is fuckin crazy and i love it for that

[low shell]

i love charge up weapons
i love burst weapons
burst cannon is a match made in heaven for me

[deep flint]

My biggest wish that’ll never get realised. A battle rifle primary

[lost lynx]

Fatebringer 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[low shell]

it is literally a fatebringer

but who brings your fate?

[low shell]

whats a battle rifle?

[deep flint]

Basically imagine if an assault rifle and a dmr fucked

That’s a battle rifle

Kinda the in between of both of them

[low shell]

well

what about the rifle?

just the rifle

its a slighter faster firing higher reserves dmr

[deep flint]

That is pretty fair actually

[low shell]

i actually prefer it over dmr

i bet it reaches same threshholds so that if your teammate shoots a lone striker its low hp enough to be finished off easily by any other gun

good for bullpup enjoyers

[deep flint]

I used to be a bullpup enjoyer

Now we’re dying off because bullpup kinda sucks rn ngl

[low shell]

i still like it, but the poopy reload makes me dislike using it often

sometimes i do objectives rather than shooting or finish off stray enemies that i can take bullpup and the downtime is long enough for reloading wheneve

[bleak wagon]

Does anyone know of a list of the average time per mission of each mission? Each rundown?

[shut vapor]

Average time varies by skill

With the exception of rundown 4 and 5, expeditions should take around 45-60 minutes imo

[real monolith]

Most take 45+ minutes with a full squad (from my experience)

[junior latch]

^ this(from licker)

If people with a lot of time think about it they can probably give you a decent average time per mission (for the average player and veteran each)

like if you know the level it ranges from <10 min (r1a1) to about 90 min (r5c2pe)

[shut vapor]

Why am I cursed to go to work

[real monolith]

The illusion of free will

[shut vapor]

R5E1

[low shell]

your soul has to be harvested for energy
at least thats what doom taught me

[real monolith]

Nekravol and the work environment are not so different if one gives it a second thought

[junior latch]

So well

It kinda depends on

1. your teams experience
2. your teams playstyle
3. whether you have some knowledge of the mission or not
   And then obviously the mission each

[sleek merlin]

This terrible news forces us to reflect on how to take responsibility for our own lives..
https://youtu.be/mG1tdNXxRSM?si=biC9ha3LusRGWO2O

[shut vapor]

Average scam link

[real monolith]

Huh

Anyway

[bleak wagon]

Oh yeah, I get that. A mission I did a month ago ago when I started, with other players and vets, took about a hour. Solo now I can do it in half that time. I’m just looking for a generalization according to a medium to vet level of experience. Figured maybe someone had a time table. I know speed runs beat the max. I just have times when I don’t have an hour and a half to devote to a mission if I get some slow players or it’s a crazy difficult one.

[real monolith]

I doubt theres a time table from how many variables are in the equation

[bleak wagon]

Yeah, I was afraid of that, and thinking that. Things change, and yes, it would be very hard to pin down,

[junior latch]

Yea there isnt

Like if you asked some of the vets like tru, me or kenny (who are stupid enough to potentially do this) youd get one thats roughly accurate

[junior latch]

I can give you a rly rough overview at least

Its 7am and im omw to uni so i dont have anything better to do

[bleak wagon]

It doesn’t have to be accurate down to the minute. But it seems like some missions are taking two hours with some slow teammates. I’m not faulting them. People move at their own pace, and some people are still learning. But I just know some days I gotta get up early and want to get a few games in. Or at least one

I hate to bail on people if they are good to work with.

And I don’t wanna let them down.

After all that effort.

[pine root]

for most main only ru ns

it is easily sub 20 able

no rng no keys

[junior latch]

Jish that wasnt the question

[pine root]

the ave time

to clear every level

can very easily no rng be 20 mins

[junior latch]

for who

[pine root]

idc

[junior latch]

veterans aiming to go fast?

[pine root]

any player

[junior latch]

Read what they are saying 💀

[pine root]

aiming to go fast

[junior latch]

No

[pine root]

no

[junior latch]

Bullshit

go to sleep

[pine root]

nope

[bleak wagon]

I didn’t want to start a controversy. 😆

[pine root]

you arent

[junior latch]

nah dw

Jish just didnt read what you wanted

And instead just pushed out a fast vet average

[bleak wagon]

It’s all good either way. Whatever interpretation. As long as people tell me it’s a fast vet average. I’d know to tack on some time.

[junior latch]

r1a1 can be done easily in 5 min every time on average without intent to speed for vets

but average time realistically with intent to clear and clear only is like 10 for vets

[bleak wagon]

Yeah,I’m still not that good. In all honesty, I run through that one and do a full clear just to use it for target practice. Playing in vr, I want my muscle memory to the point where I get headshots without sights at any range with most guns relatively consistently.

That’s why it takes me 40 mins.

I’m picking fights. I do wanna get better at speed though.

[junior latch]

R1:
A1/B1/B2/D1 (<30 min)
C1/C2 (~30-45 min)

R2:
A1/B1/B2/B3/B4/C2 (<30 min)
C1 (30-45 min)
D1 (45-60 min)
D2/E1 (60-90 min)

R3:
A1/A2 (<30 min)
B2/D1 (20-40 min)
A3/B1/C1 (30-45 min)

R4: (optionals oof)
A2 (<30 min)
A1/A3 (30-45 min)
B1/B2/C1/D1 (45-60 min)
B3/C2/C3/D2/E1 (60-90 min)

R5:
A1/A2 (<30 min)
B4 (~33-34 min lol)
Everything else (45-90 min)

R6:
A1/B1 (<30 min)
AX/B2/C1/C3 (30-45 min)
BX/C2/D1/D2/CX (45-60 min)
D3/D4 (60-90 min)

R7:
A1/B1/D2 (<30 min)
C1 (30-45 min)
B2/B3/C3/D1 (45-60 min)
C2/E1 (60-90 min)

R8:
A1/A2/E1 (<30 min)
B2 (30-45 min)
C1 (30-60 min)
B1/D1/B3/B4/D2 (45-60 min)
C2/E2 (60-90 min)

[real monolith]

Nerd

[proper iron]

wtf

[junior latch]

Rough look at times and what id call „about“ the average time in a very broad manner

[bleak wagon]

A question you might also be able to answer, is I asked advice on how to search for objective items in a level, by sector. Like the mission where you find the pd. List pd gives a full list of them. But lost pd by zone (naming the zone here), does not work. When trying to find all within a zone without querying them individually, I just can’t find another way. Have to query them to ping them. If I search all resources by zone, I can just auto ping what’s nearby.

[junior latch]

List pd zone_

Or list pd e_ (for short)

[bleak wagon]

Thank you for this very comprehensive list. I can plan my game time much better now. Double thanks.

[junior latch]

a generic syllable used to generally find such objevtive items would be U iirc

[junior latch]

Reminder

If you do get a party of slow players these times can still shoot up

but generally speaking, if it takes over 30 min more than the max estimation, then people either suck or went afk

[daring ginkgo]

What is PD?

[proper iron]

r1c2

[junior latch]

You are saying thid to someone going to uni at 7am for a lab security meeting 💀

No shit

[junior latch]

partial decoder

from r1c2

[daring ginkgo]

Oof, i forgot that existed

[real monolith]

Oooooo extra nerd

😛

[bleak wagon]

Oh yeah I do list u all the time. I’m tired. Pretty sure that’s the one. Lols. I mean when you need to narrow down from a larger list, if a particular item Group has some in the correct zone, and what ones, how many?

[junior latch]

you just do its specific with the zone

list pd zone_98
list id zone_42
list glp zone_17

etc etc

[bleak wagon]

I tried that and it fails. List pd_zone 76 fails

[junior latch]

dont underscore like that

[bleak wagon]

Just saying a random zone, but you get the picture,

[junior latch]

list pd zone_

instead of list pd_zone

[bleak wagon]

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to say, the line. I type that in right.

[junior latch]

only after zone to specify which one

not for the time you wanna broadly search for

[bleak wagon]

Wait, what?

Again, I’m tired.

[proper iron]

list pd zone_xx

instead of

list pd_zone xx

[bleak wagon]

Oh yeah, I’m doing that right, it’s just not working. Sorry, tired and stupid now. But I just watched a video where I did just that. I’ll have to try it again. I gotta be doing something wrong.

[finite warren]

hey

malwarebytes detected an outbound trojan in my game files

[hasty bobcat]

delete game

[finite warren]

that's hella weird

it was outbound so idk

[sturdy rivet]

this game is fun to play with bots ngl

i need to get rid of the habit of killing every single being in the area tho

[low shell]

yes, it is fun

i play with 1 bot cuz i got better and its like playing duo but i need solo skills

[sturdy rivet]

i love the part where i get to smash them into bits

[low shell]

super smash prisoners

[sturdy rivet]

aah yeah i should do that and get used to working alone

[low shell]

or play duo :3

[crisp marlin]

I was going to play duo with my friend but he refunded after losing R1A1 once

[low shell]

not the game for them to suffer in

[crisp marlin]

Sucks though

Woulda been fun

[proper iron]

start this game with duo is insane

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

don't

[shut vapor]

🫡

May he rest in peace

Well gg my 4 hour shift is ove

[crisp marlin]

Well we just wanted to see how the game played out at first, then if necessary would invite some randoms from the LFG

But it didn’t even get to that

I love the game, just annoying I don’t have someone who’s similarly in skill and playtime to grind it with

[low shell]

they clearly didnt wanna give the game a try

[crisp marlin]

They always do this anyway, buying a game just to throw it out after 2-3 hour playtime

[hasty bobcat]

L

[low shell]

i think that means they're desperate to play anything but have no idea what they're playing

and if thats gtfo then like

[crisp marlin]

I know

[hasty bobcat]

gtfo is not for everyone

[crisp marlin]

Definitely not

[low shell]

shouldve played with teamsky

[hasty bobcat]

teamsky is dying in uni rn 😔

[low shell]

nooo

group "hug" is experiencing same issues ngl

[hasty bobcat]

😔

[low shell]

team cube as it s called

[shut vapor]

bicker bar is also suffering

[shut vapor]

Fuck you
Spheres your cube

[low shell]

[shut vapor]

[elder talon]

anyone up to go down

pretty new but ive completed some

[manic jacinth]

this is a tad silly of a question but. how beginner is the lfg beginner. i’ve cleared a few levels with a group and i’ve solod r1a1 and b1 but in general im not that great at games. i really like this game but the like. 4 people i know who own it never want to play and i’ve never joined a random lobby like this before 😪

[junior latch]

Ranging from „ive never played before“ to „i wanna play the hardest level in the game“

Either way, dont worry! Just join missions in the rundown you are on and youll be fine!

[honest parrot]

Given, the hardest level(s) rarely gets lfgs in lfg-beginners anymore

Which is nice

[manic jacinth]

haha okay. i just hate being the reason a team loses esp when it’s not my friends

[sharp owl]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sharp owl]

#lfg-beginners

This one should be good for you

[sharp owl]

I did see r4e1 in lfg beginners once lmfao

[honest parrot]

I mean you don't get LF3 R8E2s and such anymore

On the first day of joining no less

[sharp owl]

Fun

[honest parrot]

I've been in three of those now

...You could probably guess how it worked out

[manic jacinth]

my nightmare LOL

[honest parrot]

One time we had someone who didn't understand what a zoomer is

And so they tried sprint meleeing it bcs you know, it works on scouts

[analog flicker]

Little did they know. The tendrils on zoomers are a lot faster

[honest parrot]

That was a wipe

Eventually it became clear they... didn't know anything about the game

[analog flicker]

Every up coming gtfo player moment

[honest parrot]

I even asked them if they knew the level or the game in general

[analog flicker]

They were either taught correctly or with misinformation

[honest parrot]

Probably

[analog flicker]

It's still funny some ppl try to tell me what to do after asking my hours

Or ill just get blamed because blaming the mute player for it works

Though I think almost every pub I've joined as of late has had someone who recognized me

[lost lynx]

Omg Solace famous

[analog flicker]

Just shows how often I'm in pubs really.

[analog flicker]

Tbf there are other more pub famous ppl

Idk why I replied with that second message

[manic jacinth]

i tired to stay mostly blind for the game bc i usually don’t but if i start queuing here should i go ahead and watch a playthru or guide first

[lost lynx]

Its not neccesary to watch a guide or playthrough of a level so You can get in a lobby

The problem comes when You have no clue how even the basics work and You are looking for E tiers or any other hard level

As i always Say
GTFO isnt a game where you can just jump to the top

[honest parrot]

Nah

By not know anything I meant they really didn't know anything

Like stuff about scouts or even sensible places where sentries should sit

[crisp marlin]

I just play in chronological order

[proper iron]

my team play like that and they all quit at r2d2💀

[crisp marlin]

I don't give up

sometimes I should, but I don't

[lost lynx]

remember if you smash your head against a brick wall, the wall will eventually break

[crisp marlin]

there's a chance that if you hit a table, your molecules are perfectly inlined with that of the table, making your hand pass through

you'd have to slap once every second for 10^32 years iirc

[lost lynx]

easy

i can do that

[crisp marlin]

I know you can

you're just that good

[manic jacinth]

i think about this all the time. i could just like. fall slightly thru the floor at any time

[crisp marlin]

backrooms!!

[manic jacinth]

😨

[junior latch]

Hey if you are (un)lucky enough that can happen in gtfo aswell!

[hasty bobcat]

why does it happen even

I remember some level missing a texture so i could just fall through

[lost lynx]

because Unity is trash

[junior latch]

#gtfo-media message

it happened more commonly as a desync issue back in the day

but as that clip shows it could also just happen for host

[junior latch]

Thats smth else entirely

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[junior latch]

Theres also the funny mechanic where you only fall for an infinite time if you die while falling

otherwise it resets you back up to a viable position

[shut vapor]

The og r4e1 experience was falling oob in every zone up to the generators

[unreal crystal]

should really bring that back

[proper iron]

still experience that when play samdown

[hasty bobcat]

is it just me or there is a thingy on r4e1 where u would run in a doorway and get stuck by invisible stairs

like after second alarm zone doorway from C to D

or am I tripping

[shut vapor]

I don't remember the specifics of each zone

[hasty bobcat]

I just remember running to main and always getting stuck at smth

so i had to jump xd

[junior latch]

staircases aswell as other things with weird elevation shifts have these quite often in this game

you can usually get past them by:

• jumping
• sliding
• (sometimes even just not sprinting)
• changing your movement angle

its stupid, you can see this in a lot of levels

a prominent point for example is the staircase leading up out of the small door in Training (alarm room) back to the ressource lockers

[daring ginkgo]

r5d2 bridge 💀

[junior latch]

thats an actual stuck spot

we are talking about smth thats basically just a ledge

[honest parrot]

There's quite a few of those in tech support

[deep flint]

Hold on you can slide?

[junior latch]

"slide"

you preserve minimal stamina
but it allows you to shoot while at run speed (just cancel the crouch/slide early enough to not lose speed)

[deep flint]

How?

Like how do you do it?

[lost lynx]

hold shift

[junior latch]

then crouch

uncrouch after like half a second to a second

[lost lynx]

yup

you have to do it "consistent" while you keep sprinting

[worthy flicker]

Eva dropping the GTFO movement tech

Imagine if you could bhop

[shut vapor]

You sweet summer child

[lost lynx]

omg is that the GTFO player and battle cats professional, Quadangalo?

[worthy flicker]

Can you?

[shut vapor]

Long ago

[worthy flicker]

I imagine you could pre stamina

[shut vapor]

It was stronger than just prestamina

[worthy flicker]

We talking CSS

Phoon shit

[junior latch]

well

[shut vapor]

We talking no enemy detection

[junior latch]

there wasnt bhops that increased speed

[worthy flicker]

Yo?

[junior latch]

old bhops heavily lowered risk of detection

you basically hopped at sprint speed through rooms but were only making single step sounds (walking sounds) so you could easily pass enemies

[worthy flicker]

Mechanically how did that work? Because you were in air so you weren't making noise?

[shut vapor]

Thems were the good old cheese days

[worthy flicker]

Like, no walk cycle noise cause flying?

[real monolith]

You were only touchign the floor for a split second

[real monolith]

Yep

[worthy flicker]

That's

Tbh awesome

I get why it's gone but I love when games are gamey sometimes

Was it hard to do or nah?

[junior latch]

current b-hops stop movement speed slowing effects and keep you at max possible speed

and funnily enough, if you are timing them well enough on client you are still silent since the game isnt able to register the sound (even funnier, host can do silent sprint jumps too, you just gotta crash into smth to stop your momentum so its not a sprint jump anymore)

[junior latch]

mega easy back then

[worthy flicker]

Oh, that's kinda lame then

[junior latch]

you litteraly just jumped

[worthy flicker]

If it was like

CSGO BHop difficulty that'd be cool tech

If it's easy to do that's just kinda boring lmao

[junior latch]

do gtfo bhops instead

even harder

[worthy flicker]

If it's harder it's not worth tbh

[junior latch]

theres a reason people dont chain them for speedruns and its moved to glitched (with a macro)

[worthy flicker]

Like, you can't even bhop 3 in a row in CS unless you're incredibly good at it

[worthy flicker]

Tbf I am a "macros are cheating" person

[junior latch]

[worthy flicker]

Unless you're using them to compensate for a disability, then I get it

[junior latch]

I know some vets can do 2-3 bhops pretty reliably and people have chained up to about 7 normally

[worthy flicker]

Nice ip logger

[lost lynx]

that is

[junior latch]

I can do 1 consistently and up to 3 somewhat well

gtfo is just straight up timing

[worthy flicker]

I can do 2 or 3 sometimes, past 3 is hard

I've seen new era Phoon types on csgo tho

Like actually around the whole map

[junior latch]

<@&408548765599793173>

[atomic jetty]

How did i get this ping

[junior latch]

how did it tag modern idiotism if i typed modera ???

[vestal kernel]

No off topic links pls

[junior latch]

im sry LOL

[worthy flicker]

Eva was having a hard time

[junior latch]

its scam

[lost lynx]

poor people who clicked that link

[atomic jetty]

Im undercover

[vestal kernel]

I'm not sure it is scam but it is definitely off topic

[worthy flicker]

I need to get back into GTFO tbh, I just don't know when to play gaem on my current work schedule

[junior latch]

random fresh account with a link and completely off topic

[junior latch]

join the pacifist challenge crusade

if my internet provider wasnt shitting itself I would continue rn

but alas

[worthy flicker]

Eva, idk if you remember me or not but we both know I'm incapable of pacifism

[junior latch]

tbh I might know a way in which you can actually pacifism this game

(not 100% since R8B2sec is unclear) but there might be a way for any%

[lost lynx]

E2 pacifist when

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, if it bugs out and despawns all the enemies

[junior latch]

isnt too hard ngl

[lost lynx]

show video

[junior latch]

theres about 15-20 runs that might be doable pacifist glitchless no kiting
then theres 1 level that isnt possible without glitches and another thats unclear rn

the rest youd either need to kite mega hard or use glitches (I ban kiting since thats legit tedious AND boring)

[lost lynx]

glitches 🤮

[junior latch]

queue me sneaking through r8e2 for 1 1/2 hours

[lost lynx]

that would be kinda interesting

[real monolith]

What if the sleepers were lowkey just chill guys

[worthy flicker]

Then it's a shame they exist in proximity to both me and a sledgehammer ngl

[junior latch]

you only realize how bad some players are at actually stealthing when you try pacifist

[worthy flicker]

Unfortunate set of circumstances that

[worthy flicker]

I am legitimately terrible at stealth once it involves shadows tbh

[junior latch]

#gtfo-media message
queue frosty having great timing

[worthy flicker]

I'm not even sure how to cope with that outside a thermal sight weapon

[real monolith]

Smell

[junior latch]

also did you know using foam can wake up enemies

[lost lynx]

honestly why need stealth when we have guns

[junior latch]

we love reverse silent shooting

[worthy flicker]

Makes sound, so yeah I assumed tbh

[worthy flicker]

I keep saying this to new players and they don't believe me

[junior latch]

cfoam doesnt actually make sound you know

[worthy flicker]

Idk Eva, I'm pretty sure when I shoot it I hear something

[junior latch]

ingame sound

for enemies

[worthy flicker]

Goes fwoop fwoop fwoop

[lost lynx]

this is why you dont say glitchess to new people Eva
spreading misisnformation

smh

mods, nuke him

[junior latch]

nana
thats not glitch abuse related

thats a bug report

[worthy flicker]

Alright so, if you clowns are bringing one thermal sight gun is it PDW or is it PR?

[lost lynx]

PR

[junior latch]

you can also just bring both for pacifist 👀

[lost lynx]

sawed off + PR and im golden

[worthy flicker]

I like PR drastically more as a weapon, but it competes with things I actually enjoy

PDW is a piece of dogshit however

[real monolith]

PDW my goat!!!

[worthy flicker]

I think I'd go Hel Shotgun+PR

[junior latch]

pdw if I need an actual special

PR if i wanna have fun and just chill (R6D3 and R4E1)

[worthy flicker]

Is PR actually good for R4E1?

I'm gonna need to do that one soon

Within 4 missions iirc

[hasty bobcat]

its relevant ig

[junior latch]

its like neat support

[worthy flicker]

I've never done R4E1, I just know it's HardTM

[junior latch]

but its not like you are running scattergun for no reason

[worthy flicker]

I don't run scatter tbh

[hasty bobcat]

if ure in a team of 4

pr is fine

[worthy flicker]

I feel a little gross when I use it

[junior latch]

PR is "good" in a team of 4 (for R4E1)

[hasty bobcat]

it's usable ig

[junior latch]

fine would be stuff like revo

PR actually having utility is neat

[worthy flicker]

My go to loadout is like

DTR/Hel Shotgun+BC

HCP if I'm feeling funny

[hasty bobcat]

yeah that works

[junior latch]

its been confirmed that you can clear any mission with any loadout at this point

even AR+sniper+spear+4bios

[worthy flicker]

Tbf Eva, I am not worrying about myself

[hasty bobcat]

my boys with AR sniper quad bio

spear

[junior latch]

oh that was mostly just a "we werent sure before"

but now we know

[worthy flicker]

Nah I'd believe as long as you're using weapons if you're good enough with em you'd be able to clear

[junior latch]

ya

[hasty bobcat]

yea

[junior latch]

and well

outside of 2 missions you can technically clear every mission in the game without doing anything but running

its just abnormal amounts of kiting (super hard one too)

[worthy flicker]

I feel like that would be more trouble then it's worth

[junior latch]

yes

hence why I detest it (and banned it)

[worthy flicker]

Don't you judge speed runs?

[junior latch]

yea?

[worthy flicker]

Wouldn't that be like, disqualifying itself?

[hasty bobcat]

he is the only one rn

xd

[junior latch]

huh

[hasty bobcat]

the only one active*

[junior latch]

i didnt ban kiting from speedruns

its allowed, just suboptimal

but from the pacifist challenge I set out

[worthy flicker]

OH

That makes more sense

[junior latch]

speedrun rules arent just set by me lol

[worthy flicker]

I figured inside of a speedrun a strategy like that wouldn't be viable cause it takes too long

Hence being self DQing

[junior latch]

its kinda "viable" in a few solos

[worthy flicker]

But it was unrelated!

[junior latch]

but solo speeds in this game that resort to kiting become weird

[lost lynx]

im guessing the speedrun mods make a vote or something like that

[junior latch]

also taking too long

doesnt disqualify, if the intent is still to go asap

well not asap

but as fast as possible

[junior latch]

it does get discussed yes

[worthy flicker]

I don't nessecarily mean literally, just that it would slow the run down to a point where you aren't winning

At which point, why do it? If that makes sense

[junior latch]

I mean you dont always have to aim for WR

a PB is fine

or even just running for fun (which i guess would kinda be excluded for a super kiting run)

[worthy flicker]

Sorry buddy, when I was a kid my parents told me if I'm not first I'm last

In my mind it's always about that top spot tbh

[hasty bobcat]

uh huh

[junior latch]

but its actually an official ruling on src that you actually have to play with intent to go fast

sometimes meme runs are let in if its obviously meant in good faith humor

[worthy flicker]

Can I have an example meme category?

[junior latch]

not meme category

more meme run

iirc there was a 20 hour run in portal

that got let through cuz of some funny story

[worthy flicker]

Lmao

No Schaeffer Bucket Any% cat for GTFO?

[junior latch]

its basically always in categories where theres a ton of runs already tho

so its moreso a show of some jest vs a quick cheap bs thing

[lost lynx]

whats the WR for the current all levels category?

[junior latch]

any or 100% (i dont know 100% lol)

[lost lynx]

any

[junior latch]

about 22 1/2 hours

unverified as of now

i recently hit R4

[worthy flicker]

Consecutive or non?

[junior latch]

consecutive

[lost lynx]

oh hey less than a day
thats cool

[worthy flicker]

Damn, nice

[junior latch]

the composite time is about 18 hours and like 20 min or so

the aim is to get that below 18 hours

[junior latch]

well they were allowed breaks

but each run had to be chained and losses were added

[worthy flicker]

Duct tape the Gatorade bottle to my leg, I'm going in

[junior latch]

but thats pretty typical since the category demands you to run for like 30 hours in real time

botw also has similar break rules

[worthy flicker]

Nah, I'm familiar with stuff like that, I just find consecutive to be super impressive

[junior latch]

longest consecutive was R1 to R8D1

done by bread, void, jish and I dont remember who was fourth (ray?, frosty?) i dont remember

ah

they basically wiped twice on R8D2 cuz they were all dead after the grind the following day and never finished cuz bread had to leave

[worthy flicker]

Tbh if I wiped twice after r1-R8 I'd probably call it there too

I'd want to take a nap

[real monolith]

Id take a nap after the first 10m... gameplay loop is silly

Horde shooter except its stealth... ?!!?!

[junior latch]

well they napped after a wipe in R8D1

[real monolith]

Top 5 games EVER made

[junior latch]

stealth?

in speedruns?

you litteraly run and gun like 99,9% of all content

[real monolith]

I never said speedruns noob

[worthy flicker]

Stealth? In my GTFO? They gave you a burst cannon for a reason my boy.

Use it.

[real monolith]

What burst cannon

I use machine pistol and combat shotty

[junior latch]

what we are talking about is litteraly speedruns

[real monolith]

My two OGs..

[junior latch]

so its in the current discussions context

[worthy flicker]

I am convinced GTFO is only a stealth game if you're scared of it

I genuinely find it easier to shoot basically everything I come across

[real monolith]

One of the rules of combat is to never second guess yourself or smth idk

Some guy named Muddy? Morphy? I forogt his name

Gotta have the fuck it we ball mentality

[worthy flicker]

I know exactly who you're talking about lmao

[junior latch]

its actually an advice I do give out to beginners (not pushing them too much, but having the get comfortable with shooting)

seeing beginners sneak around 2 giants for 10 min when they have 80% ammo each is just...

SHOOT

[worthy flicker]

I teach my friends how to hammer scouts and giants ASAP tbh

[real monolith]

I remember when I was new and would stop dead in my tracks when I saw a hint of red

Even across the room

[hasty bobcat]

soreal

[worthy flicker]

I had a terrible mentality going into GTFO

[junior latch]

I mean I get it when they are in a new mission

[hasty bobcat]

why tf are u sneaking just kill!!!

[junior latch]

but R1B1, 12 ideas gotten
they know room is clear otherwise, all doors closed

[worthy flicker]

Someone told me that they saw a really good player just sprint around knifing everything in GTFO, so I decided to try to emulate that immediately

Never went through the beginner stealth phase

Ran around R1A1 like your average londoner

[real monolith]

Average pub experience

[worthy flicker]

1 player who's turbo aggro, 1 player who's actively avoiding combat as best they can, 1 dude who's a little too standoffish telling everyone what to do, and 1 dude who's keeping everyone mentally together

+/- one of these people only speaks Russian

[lost lynx]

See

Stealth is not neccesary in GTFO

Just
Shoot

They gave us guns with bullets for a reason

[worthy flicker]

I'm so glad you get it

[shut vapor]

We aren't all that bad!

[valid mauve]

is GTFO worth getting without friends to play with

i really like horde shooters

but i have no friends

[honest parrot]

You can lfg here

It's usually ok

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[valid mauve]

are people willing to help new players adjust

i heard the gameplay's very different from others in the genre

[honest parrot]

Yea
That's why we have #lfg-beginners

Sleepo you here

I need your copypasta

Ok he ain't here

[lost lynx]

Keep in mind GTFO isnt the average horde shooter

Enemies are kinda tanky for a horde shooter

[valid mauve]

what's the average ttk for the weakest thing i can kill

[honest parrot]

One shot essentially

[valid mauve]

ok it's not that bad

[honest parrot]

Given, the weakest thing you can kill comes in tens

50s to be more precise

[lost lynx]

Then the game goes up really fast

You Will see it by yourself

[valid mauve]

as in swarm size?

or enemy stat scaling

[lost lynx]

Enemy stats are always the same

[honest parrot]

Swarm variations
And how they can fq you

[lost lynx]

Yeah

What Golden said

[valid mauve]

ooooh that sounds fun

[honest parrot]

Like for instance you can't guns blazing into every room

Would you mind a minor spoiler?

[valid mauve]

they just change up the composition to make it more challenging

[valid mauve]

not really no

[lost lynx]

And some rooms might have really strong enemies that Will need a lot of fire power

[valid mauve]

i want as much info as I need to convince myself to get it

[lost lynx]

Uuuuh

This game is really fun and challenging

And hard

[honest parrot]

Ok so there's loads of different objectives in this game, but most of them revolve around doing scans for doors
Kinda like pd2 wifi scans

[lost lynx]

But fun

[honest parrot]

Most doors have alarms
And those alarms are not fun

There's also Scouts during stealth sections that discourage just going loud

[lost lynx]

GTFO is a nice mix of stealth and full action

[honest parrot]

Cause if you wake a scout up it spawns a wave

[valid mauve]

like witches in l4d

[lost lynx]

Thankfully scouts dont one shot you

LOL

[valid mauve]

or is that not how they work

[lost lynx]

Scouts just scream and alert enemies

Thats all they have to them

[valid mauve]

ok

[honest parrot]

Ye

And all of the enemies have variantions

And there's bosses that require actual cooridination

Else you die
Cause they aren't just bullet sponges

[lost lynx]

Theres only like 3 actual bosses and a bunch of mini-bosses

[valid mauve]

nothing too out of the ordinary i think

except with the stealth part

is it really hard

[lost lynx]

You have to see the game

GTFO is really unique

[lost lynx]

Really depends

[honest parrot]

If you're good and know the game well this game is a pushover for the easier levels
The harder levels push YOU over instead

And whether or not you get up from the ground and make it out alive or you die getting swarmed is totally up to you

[lost lynx]

Ah yeah
GTFO is a really demanding game
In both skills and time

Some levels might last up to 2 hours and if You die is a full restart

[valid mauve]

i meant the stealth parts in particular

[lost lynx]

As i said

It depends

In the level

[valid mauve]

so it changes based on room layout and such

[honest parrot]

Some rooms have little to no enemies, making it easy to go through them

Others have really bad spawns

[lost lynx]

Room, enemies, environment factors

[valid mauve]

are there sections where you are forced to fight

[lost lynx]

Yes

A lot

Alarms are Wave holding sections and You find me really often

[honest parrot]

If you want I can stream you one of the earlier missions and let you see for yourself
Or you can find some sort of playthroughs

[lost lynx]

Then theres objectives that make you fight all the time

I won't Say much

[valid mauve]

ok got it

is there quick play

[honest parrot]

Alarms on doors
And scout screams

[valid mauve]

or is rando matching on bad ideas

[honest parrot]

There's matchmaking (It sucks bad)

[lost lynx]

Use lfg

[honest parrot]

Yeah

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[lost lynx]

Btw this game takes a lot of time to learn and play

And i mean a lot

[honest parrot]

As artek would say, if you really don't like playing with other people you can play with bots, they're serviceable until they get dumbed out
if you're struggling then lfg

Other than that, you should probably lfg almost every time you want to play

They aren't payday 2 op, but they can function for R1

[valid mauve]

all the stuff i've played have bots that are beyond stupid

[lost lynx]

This game bots are decent

For easy levels

[honest parrot]

The higher the rundown number, the more complex the missions get
And the higher the letter, the harder it is

[lost lynx]

Then for later levels You Will need at least someone else

[honest parrot]

So for R1 it's rather simple, and bots don't malfunction much

Also hey eva

[valid mauve]

alright

[honest parrot]

If you want to get the game we should have a sale again soon
You can wait till then

Every sale brings in new peps

[junior latch]

gtfo is tough to learn

not because its overtly complex, but because you either have to really try and test everything (with the danger of building wrong conclusions) or ask/get help or watch guides

the game has depth, but not in a bad way. But it definetly has accessability issues when people dont want to get over the first big hurdle

[honest parrot]

Yeah what eva said

[lost lynx]

As i Say if You can't get past R1
Then theres no point in playing

[valid mauve]

so it's good to lfg to learn the basics

[honest parrot]

If you struggle we can easily teach you

[lost lynx]

I have seen so many people just give up in R1

[honest parrot]

If you have questions just ask away

[valid mauve]

ok nice

[lost lynx]

[honest parrot]

lfg is how you'll mostly play this game outside of bot runs cause matchmaking is a hellhole

[junior latch]

@valid mauve in general
stealth is very very helpful and unless you are off to the deep end of skill, it will be required for many missions at least

learning stealth makes most things easier, but you can shoot through a lot if you know how to (and how to loot) aswell

this game is well done in the way that the player (group) can decide how they approach MOST levels. (A good chunk force you to go loud and aggressive)

for "matchmaking" others have said it already, but the ingame one isnt great nor recommendable

the one on discord is quite decent, albeit the playerbase isnt as big as it once was (which is understandable imo)
You can still find people here (new ones aswell) and if desperate can always approach sub communities with active players/streamers or whatever similar

[lost lynx]

Alright guys
Get your R1C1 copypasta ready

[honest parrot]

No no no no
You aren't about to scare another person away with that

[lost lynx]

😔

[analog flicker]

[lost lynx]

Solaceee

[analog flicker]

Bots did nothing wrong

[honest parrot]

Welp if you decide to play deadfish we'll be around
Me mostly in tech support

[valid mauve]

just hit me

[honest parrot]

Until they all walk into a giant and die to backhand collision

[junior latch]

nah its spoilers in a way for the 4th level

[honest parrot]

ye

[valid mauve]

oh lol

[analog flicker]

Pretty much.

[valid mauve]

are there difficulties

[junior latch]

im still in log discourse about a potential glitch that would be stupid af

[valid mauve]

or is it just levels

[junior latch]

levels

[honest parrot]

A is easiest, E is hardest

[lost lynx]

A easy
E hard

[valid mauve]

is A recommended

[junior latch]

but they are put into tiers (A to E)

[valid mauve]

for new players

[junior latch]

you need to start at A

its forced

[valid mauve]

oh

[lost lynx]

A = very easy
B = easy
C = Normal
D = hard
E = Really hard

Basically that

[valid mauve]

and i unlock them right

[lost lynx]

Yes

[analog flicker]

Later on starting Rundown 4. Levels get optionals for varying difficulties

[junior latch]

later on levels will have optional objectives that you can do (mostly) on top of the main one

Those objectives make the level as a whole harder to complete but also are generally decent extra content (and often make a level actually feel complete)

[valid mauve]

i'll try it over christmas

[junior latch]

[valid mauve]

how many rundowns are there

[honest parrot]

8

[lost lynx]

8

And 83 levels

[analog flicker]

For now it's best to learn all the basics and etc in R1

[valid mauve]

wait how does a rundown work

[honest parrot]

But there's a lot of modded content
So even after that you won't be going bored anytime soon

[valid mauve]

can you just tap out in the middle of one

[lost lynx]

On average someone takes 500 hours to complete the game
300 of those are failed attempts

[lost lynx]

It's just a mission set

[junior latch]

a rundown is like a campaign

[lost lynx]

With different missions

[valid mauve]

ok that makes more sense

[hasty bobcat]

team what are we yapping about

[analog flicker]

The game used to be Fomo. Rundowns went away and a new one replaced it. But at this point. We just have all of them available at all times

[junior latch]

if you quit during a level (expedition) then your progress for the mission is "reset" (not if you cleared it tho)

and before you ask

[valid mauve]

is that what rule 12 is for

[honest parrot]

So rundowns used to get removed after a while, they used to work like a season
A rundown only exists for a time
Now, the rundowns got readded and you can do all of them
This is why we have different rundowns

[analog flicker]

IFO being surprised about Monsoon

[lost lynx]

Yeah

[junior latch]

missions last between 30 and 90 minutes usually (10-120 if you go to extremes)
anything above 2 hours for a mission is players going afk or actually being dogshit

[hasty bobcat]

wdym

[hasty bobcat]

eva casually insulting almost all pubs

[lost lynx]

Rule 12 doesnt let You play rundowns that we're removed

It doesnt really matter since everything is back

[junior latch]

nah the afk part is the big thing

people who say they dont go afk in a 3 hour clear are ???

[analog flicker]

Ifo questioning the amount of enemies and difficulty scale moving fast

[hasty bobcat]

checkpoint black hole

[junior latch]

checkpoints dont count

[hasty bobcat]

noway man

[junior latch]

thats wipes

if you wipe you dont add your time either

[hasty bobcat]

it doesn't??

[lost lynx]

Either AFK or massive skill issue

[junior latch]

"oh man it took me 15 hours to clear r1a1"

[analog flicker]

And no it's not related to rule 12.

[valid mauve]

are you kidding me

[junior latch]

it does on ending screen (if host) but nobody counts that shit

[valid mauve]

3.8% completed R1

[honest parrot]

Oh that's misleading

[lost lynx]

Achivement were added recently

[hasty bobcat]

yeah exactly

[honest parrot]

Don't believe that

[junior latch]

achievements got added very late

[hasty bobcat]

which is funny

:3

[analog flicker]

Achievements were added way later

[junior latch]

like, on the last 2 updates

[valid mauve]

ok thank god lmao

[junior latch]

the game was out for about 4 years before that

[lost lynx]

Exactly one year and 2 days ago

[honest parrot]

At this point a heck of a lot of people aren't around anymore

[lost lynx]

Guys its been a year since R8

[junior latch]

Rundown 1 is beatable in 2 hours casually

[honest parrot]

Yea I joined about a year and 2 days ago
Then I left for a little but I'm back now

[analog flicker]

[hasty bobcat]

it's not even a year for me

[valid mauve]

is the game still getting regular updates

[honest parrot]

Nope

[junior latch]

no

[lost lynx]

Gane is finished

[analog flicker]

Okay newbie :>

[junior latch]

if theres any issues that are major it will

[valid mauve]

:((((

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[junior latch]

but the game has a TON of content

like 200+ hours

[honest parrot]

The developers have gone to work on...
rustles papers

[junior latch]

without any modding

[honest parrot]

Den... Of... Wolves

[junior latch]

im at 3.2k hours myself

lol

[hasty bobcat]

I had jade be annoyed at me ytd

actual newbie 😔

[lost lynx]

500 on average

[honest parrot]

It's some sort of payday game with cyberpunk edgy toppings

[hasty bobcat]

team we'll never have another gtfo 😔

[analog flicker]

What bugs me is the goober that's Schaeffers VA

[junior latch]

eh dont count it out sky

[valid mauve]

ok nice

I ran out of shit to do in DRG

[honest parrot]

that's ok we have 8 man gtfo
btw how is it these days

[junior latch]

but yea if you like the game theres so much fucking content

[hasty bobcat]

not by the same devs psure

it's not the same 😔

[junior latch]

and thats not even considering challenge runs of any kind

[valid mauve]

and i didn't wanna scour the internet for modded lobbies

[analog flicker]

"So DoW Flopped. but we got GTFO Remake"

[valid mauve]

i got vermintide and got totally hooked so now i'm expanding my options

[junior latch]

modded groups are honestly easy to find once youve beaten vanilla

[honest parrot]

This game has a ridiculous amount of modded stuff

[analog flicker]

[honest parrot]

So don't worry

[junior latch]

lots of vets chill in modded

[honest parrot]

Btw how's 8 man gtfo

Has it been improved on?

[analog flicker]

A lot of meleeing unless you've messed with resources

[honest parrot]

Welp either way we'll see you around deadfish

[junior latch]

at most with tgb building 8 player levels

[lost lynx]

Guys

When are we doing a 8 man

I missed the fun

[hasty bobcat]

in 5 minutes

[lost lynx]

What the fuck

[brittle schooner]

uh can the bypass and override command in e2 bug out and just... do nothing?

[hasty bobcat]

^ 🤓

[brittle schooner]

no like im asking actually

i have no idea what the convo is rn i didnt backread xd

[lost lynx]

No?

[brittle schooner]

well i just had it happen i think

[hasty bobcat]

if u bug the terminal

ig

[lost lynx]

Knowing Gtfo everything is possible

[brittle schooner]

true

[hasty bobcat]

what do u override even

[honest parrot]

term bug is more likely cause the game registers that as a used command

[brittle schooner]

the + mins thing

[honest parrot]

And just refuses the command

[hasty bobcat]

its admin i bozo

yeah i bozo

fr

[brittle schooner]

its admin temp override

[hasty bobcat]

idc

[honest parrot]

The one command I always forget

[brittle schooner]

smh

[hasty bobcat]

if u type

[honest parrot]

And fq up

[hasty bobcat]

bypass

and after it instantly

admin

it'll delay

but haven't seen it actually not work

[brittle schooner]

what if i typed list zone instead

[hasty bobcat]

u can delay both

bypass and admin

[junior latch]

obviously, desync stuff and all

[hasty bobcat]

yeah desync prolly

[brittle schooner]

can desync still happen if im host and no one else in lobby other than bots

[lost lynx]

Yes

[junior latch]

"yes"

[lost lynx]

Its called

Lag

[junior latch]

as in stuff can still break

[brittle schooner]

wack

[hasty bobcat]

star why are u playing e2 with bots

[brittle schooner]

idk im bored

[junior latch]

sky wanted to try E2 pacifist

star*

(but sky too surely)

[hasty bobcat]

💀

if u inv

[lost lynx]

Guys is it still pacifist if i team kill someone

[junior latch]

ill do that last

[hasty bobcat]

technically

[junior latch]

only if they woke up the room in a prior run

[hasty bobcat]

exact;y

'''''

i hate my kb

[brittle schooner]

i cant even get past 1st alarm normally with bots xd

(tho tbf im running 3 sniper sentries)

i think im also giving bots 2 much ammo

[lost lynx]

100% bio scan speed

Easy clear

[brittle schooner]

u cant even get that much bio on 1 person xd

[hasty bobcat]

what the fuck xD

team it's normal loadout except u carry cfoam

[brittle schooner]

tanks are a pain in da ass what can i say

[hasty bobcat]

are u scatter?

ig so

[brittle schooner]

i think hel rifle is a must ngl

i dont think bots shoot kraken prolly and they're so bad at the alarm

[hasty bobcat]

bc star

bc

is a must

[brittle schooner]

well hel gun prolly works as well, maybe bc but im not good with it

[hasty bobcat]

it clears like everything

[brittle schooner]

well yes, but im not good at the whole swapping 2 targets mid burst

[hasty bobcat]

yeahhh same

i drag too hard

[brittle schooner]

bots are lowkey a detreminet during the alarm lmao, always standing in the way so hf not shooting them, and the moment a nightmare comes into melee range its basically over xd

[junior latch]

practice time

[brittle schooner]

some time mayhaps

my general aim is still kinda eh so im trying 2 improve on that for now

[fringe garden]

i forced myself to learn this to some degree by soloing reactor(s) with burst cannon because it forced me to be able to do so to clear and it might be the most fun thing in this game

highly recommend learning it for the fun factor

[brittle schooner]

yea good chance i end up doing exactly that

r3a3 prolly

[fringe garden]

i did r3a3 -> r1c1 -> r2d2

[crisp marlin]

yeah my aim is horrible too, been trying to solo R1A1 on my own accord and I haven't even made it past the first alarm door once..

[crisp marlin]

depends, if I had friends who played the game, definitely

[mystic moss]

would you pay money for friends

[crisp marlin]

no

[mystic moss]

an idealist i see

[brittle schooner]

my full answer would be depends how much

but assuming a "reasonable" amount, yes

[deep flint]

damn why is matchmaking dead everytime i go to host

[valid mauve]

I'm back from the tutorials

[junior latch]

[valid mauve]

i feel so clunky

[junior latch]

clunky?

[hasty bobcat]

now play baptism

[valid mauve]

yeah i left with like 2% hp left because the enemies kept shooting me while i extracted

do the enemies have weakpoints or sth

[valid mauve]

probably because the melee felt kinda weird

i probably just have to get used to it

[junior latch]

head generally

shooter takes 5x dmg to head
strikers takes 3x

[junior latch]

charging is key
(also the tutorial melee (bat) is a bit weirder to use)

[hasty bobcat]

i take brain damage to the head

[valid mauve]

oh ok

what are light attacks for

stagger?

[hasty bobcat]

just don't

[junior latch]

quick finishing

stagger (mostly for bat and hammer)

[valid mauve]

ok lol

[junior latch]

breaking locks quickly or doors

[valid mauve]

you can break doors?

[junior latch]

the damage scales cubically

[junior latch]

yes

not very useful for standard play generally

but good knowledge to have in a pinch

[valid mauve]

how do i reload my turret

[junior latch]

either have it on you and just use tool refill

or place it down and use tool refill on it

both work

[valid mauve]

is tool refill different from the ammo pack

[hasty bobcat]

omg

[junior latch]

its the blue pack yea

[hasty bobcat]

team i just hit 1k hours

[valid mauve]

oh duh that's why

i just smged my way through everything

[hasty bobcat]

i'm about to write a big ass post in media

[junior latch]

this just reminds me of the first speed strat of the tutorial when we didnt pick up ressources at all and meleed it (until I checked for that not being a time loss)

[valid mauve]

isn't the only combat section just for the duration of the door unlock

and then you just fucking run to the exit

[junior latch]

the run to extract also has a trigger that spawns enemies again until you die or leave

[valid mauve]

also i'm confused on the tracker

[junior latch]

mhm?

[valid mauve]

there's a terminal for it but i had no idea what to do with it

i just found the key in the locker

[junior latch]

oh you mean the terminal

[valid mauve]

yeah

[marsh temple]

Task bar says what commands to use

[valid mauve]

top left?

[junior latch]

the "tracker" is somewhat referencing another tool (bio tracker) so i got confused

[marsh temple]

Yes

[junior latch]

the tutorial terminal isnt the best at teaching this stuff

[valid mauve]

is the biotracker for marking specials

[junior latch]

#guides-and-reviews message
@valid mauve you can watch this if interested, it goes over some stuff a bit that can help early and quite short as a vid

[lost lynx]

Self promotion

[shut vapor]

🐟

[shut vapor]

I hope you self promote yourself

[lost lynx]

Not a bad idea

Thanks Quadangalo

[valid mauve]

my brain is expanding

the biggest takeaway is coordinate builds and be aggressive with single enemies

[spare seal]

nayone have any tips for r4a2 third objective? its allot of run n gun beyond that and ammo is brutal. any guns that would be good for this?

[serene berry]

having a sniper to hit the scouts in Ovl asap and hit the scouts after the final secondary alarm can be helpful

but you probably want a hel rifle for that role and for waves

[junior latch]

@spare seal as wheat said not the „sniper“tho. But smth like hel rifle works well for everything rly and one shots

[junior latch]

Also ammo shouldnt rly be a problem on the mission? What tools and guns are you using?

[fringe garden]

there is a resource zone opposite to the overload that they may have missed

[junior latch]

? What

there isnt lol

[fringe garden]

am i confusing a2 for a3

i am

[junior latch]

you are

[fringe garden]

oh well uhhh they should just be running knife and meleeing the error if nothing else

[junior latch]

R4A2 error spawns fast

like every 15 sec or so

not smth youd melee commonly as a beginner

Realistically 2-3 people can do it calmly tho (hammer, knife or even bat. Just not spear)

[fringe garden]

my instinctive respone to fast error is to melee to minimise resource drain

but yeah maybe it too hard

[hasty bobcat]

skill issue then?

[fringe garden]

good approach is to full send overload shoot scouts on way and the get behind and mine the door at the end, cfoam if necessary

[hasty bobcat]

I'm about to kite error to 46

just because

[valid mauve]

wtf is melee range

i keep swinging and missing and fucking myself lmao

[lost lynx]

maybe try to get close

:3

spear has a lot of range

but its really bad

[valid mauve]

oh 😦

i was trying hammer and i kept missing

[lost lynx]

it might take a while to get used to

[valid mauve]

what's a new player friendly weapon

the mace?

[lost lynx]

spear is newbie friendly lol

it does ok in early levels and has range

if you need to practice maybe run spear for now

[valid mauve]

ok thanks

[lost lynx]

just keep in mind you cant sprint while charging with the spear