also @daring ginkgo gl on d2,d3 and d4 LOL (did you do cx yet?)
#gtfo-chat
daring ginkgo
yeah, cx was easy after r6c3
fleet kettle
wraith stratus
fleet kettle
Soon I can return to playing some games
wicked solstice
D3’s is pretty good ngl
burnt flume
what will you be streaming
wicked solstice
Except for the part in OG where you could cheese
alpine scaffold
D2 and D3 is bad for solo
D4 last part you'll have your life in the bots hands ||(carrying cell in a "surge" error)||
daring ginkgo
d2 seems brutal, cause terminals for uplink are so spread out
daring ginkgo
in this huge room
junior latch
what will you be streaming
e2 shenanigans (not oob)
daring ginkgo
if only i had checkpoint somewhere in sec zone
alpine scaffold
You have one before
burnt flume
what shenaniganry is it this time
analog flicker
D2 and D3 is bad for solo
D4 last part you'll have your life in the bots hands |...
That last part of d4 isn't as hard as some say
rose nova
is very hard if u just do it like out in the air first tme blind no guide foam mines burst sentry
alpine scaffold
And with 3 bots
rose nova
evenw ith a squad shits fucked unprepared
wicked solstice
yeah D4 error is fucking nasty
daring ginkgo
D2 and D3 is bad for solo
D4 last part you'll have your life in the bots hands |...
flashbacks of r5 lvl when you have to carry data sphere all the way back to extraction while some king of surge alarm going
or r4c2
alpine scaffold
What level?
junior latch
what shenaniganry is it this time
imagine an mmo
but its gtfo
daring ginkgo
worst type of ending 
junior latch
thats my first thought
rose nova
r5 data spehre uhh thats c2
junior latch
that was*
alpine scaffold
C3
alpine scaffold
C3
alpine scaffold
C3
fringe garden
r5c2 is reactor secondary
wicked solstice
Yeah
daring ginkgo
yeah, r5c3
rose nova
couldve said it smh
alpine scaffold
I forgot the name of the level
daring ginkgo
that ending was so annoying
rose nova
I forgot the name of the level
least explain it ksks
wicked solstice
Access/Starvation
daring ginkgo
too many zones iirc
alpine scaffold
c3 is boring to me
Do r5b2
rose nova
b2 is so much interesting after the first 10 minutes of uplinks
harder too kinda for me
alpine scaffold
:l
rose nova
ov in b2 is just much more hectic than another VI alarm that u defend 3 sentries and barely shoot
daring ginkgo
yeah
alpine scaffold
We did it with 2 sentry + mine deployer so
daring ginkgo
i used 3 shotgun sentries
rose nova
what
real monolith
What
daring ginkgo
they carried on uplinks 
alpine scaffold
You did r5c3 solo?
daring ginkgo
with bots
rose nova
did u expect anything else
alpine scaffold
@daring ginkgo what level you'll do next
rose nova
this person hasnt done like no levels without bots
daring ginkgo
<@220466021541085184> what level you'll do next
r6d2
alpine scaffold
this person hasnt done like no levels without bots
R4e1
rose nova
they had one bot ahre
daring ginkgo
Main only?
i will try PE like always
fringe garden
on r2d2 i gave up
true solo r2d2 do it
you have done like several solos with bots harder than it imo
alpine scaffold
i will try PE like always
How suffering
daring ginkgo
yeah, i just dont want to re-do this lvl for now, cause it is so annoying
reactor with bots is almost always painful
alpine scaffold
Also good luck for r7b3 PE if you dont like to be at 100% infection
alpine scaffold
Also good luck for r7b3 PE if you dont like to be at 100% infection
||Fog turbine + Cargo carrying + Charger and Striker error||
It isn't all that bad but
daring ginkgo
forgot which lvl it was on r5 with extraction alarm with secondary ( or ov zone ) with darkness, red light and full infection and fog
that was miserable to navigate
where you had to collect glp or ids
fringe garden
b2?
alpine scaffold
R5b2?
rose nova
extract alarm?
daring ginkgo
probably, main was uplinks
daring ginkgo
let me check
alpine scaffold
forgot which lvl it was on r5 with extraction alarm with secondary ( or ov zone ...
R5d1!?
wicked solstice
forgot which lvl it was on r5 with extraction alarm with secondary ( or ov zone ...
Sounds kinda like b2
rose nova
d1 is a reactor >^>
wicked solstice
D1 is shutdown/command
alpine scaffold
But is the only level with infection, darkness and error Extraction?
In R5 at least
daring ginkgo
Sounds kinda like b2
yeah, r5b2
i forgot if it was infectious fog or not
either way i could not see shit inside ov zone while looking for osips
daring ginkgo
good*
r5e1 is one of the best lvls imo
so good design ( for me ): stealth, errors, break between errors
zone with tank/c.scout, chargers and zone with shadows is annoying but other zones are good
daring ginkgo
r5d2 was hardest for me
alpine scaffold
A3, B1, B2, C2, D1
daring ginkgo
r5e1 second place
rose nova
A3, B1, B2, C2, D1
b2 is not bad its just stupid on difficulty
and d1s fine its long as fuck but its finee
alpine scaffold
b2 is not bad its just stupid on difficulty
What all these have in common? Doing boring shit with fog turbine
rose nova
a3 has aa turbine for 2 seconds
alpine scaffold
Could be short
Like 0,5 sec
:)
I liked A1, A2, B1(without secondary), B3, B4, C1, C3, D1(kinda), D2
Still didn't E1
Lazy because I feel this level would take 3+ hours in a full blind run
daring ginkgo
it took me almost exactly 3h on this lvl
alpine scaffold
it took me almost exactly 3h on this lvl <:Scout:681277813449293886>
R4E1 took me 4+ hours in a full blind
daring ginkgo
3h was on reactor or what?
alpine scaffold
I dont remember ngl
burnt flume
3h was the average time for first clears near enough
alpine scaffold
But when doing reactor we ran out of ammo
So I think it was long
I was doing code hunt and didn't know what to do
daring ginkgo
yeah, blind code hunting on this lvl sounds rough
i dared to try this lvl only after watching video guide few times 😂
to memorize path on sec
alpine scaffold
At least we did reactor + 2/2 of the main in first try
1 sentry, 1 C-foam, 1 mine deployer and 1 bio
I was with Hel Shotgun and PR
PR was for the tank error, but salved the run in code hunt
daring ginkgo
yeah, i used pdw for vision on code hunting, need that thermal vision
pr is even better for this i think
junior latch
they carried on uplinks <:Scout:681277813449293886>
no
alpine scaffold
I ran Hel Shotgun + PR in almost every level I could from R1 to R5 and R6
junior latch
alpine scaffold
2/2 R6 and R7 I started using Hel Shotgun + HCP
junior latch
I ran Hel Shotgun + PR in almost every level I could from R1 to R5 and R6
you can technically beat any level with any loadout, if good enough
alpine scaffold
Yeah
But some levels like r4c3 and d2 I did with Hel Rifle or something
R6d1 I changed to burst cannon
daring ginkgo
killing chargers with pistol 💀
alpine scaffold
killing chargers with pistol 💀
There was a image in #gtfo-media of 4 pistol/short rifle in r4e1
Main and Sec
alpine scaffold
But some levels like r4c3 and d2 I did with Hel Rifle or something
R5C1 and R5d2 did it with pdw + scattergun
daring ginkgo
sometimes i think, that scatter would be better choice, then hel rifle on r5d2
after playing with it for quite a while on r6c3
modern coral
It probably is.
daring ginkgo
nvm, i used burst cannon on successful attempt
still think scatter would be better
oneshotting giants feels so good
sharp owl
My withdraw is finally coming to an end
I think
🥳
Time to grind e2 tmrw
If i dont feel like shit
daring ginkgo
grind time ⛏️
wicked solstice
me who’s withdraw has lasted like 7-8 months
sharp owl
Horrible 2 weeks and im late for school work but ill grind e2 🔥
wicked solstice
GTFO
sharp owl
Oh
wicked solstice
wait what was yours
sharp owl
Im talking about meds lmao
wicked solstice
oh jeez I’m sorry
sharp owl
Anti depressants xd
sharp owl
oh jeez I’m sorry
Nah dw
wicked solstice
mb homie
alpine scaffold
killing chargers with pistol 💀
Ngl I liked using pistol in R1 when I was noob
wraith marsh
There are much worse weapons than pistol
alpine scaffold
There are much worse weapons than pistol
Yeah, but I dont think people would choose pistol when they know Hel rev
rose nova
would
alpine scaffold
why
analog flicker
Yeah, but I dont think people would choose pistol when they know Hel rev
Maybe they don't wanna use meta hel revo
Or just use what's fun despite the disadvantages
low shell
burst cannon!
analog flicker
Machine guns 
rose nova
burst cannon!
b but bc is like good 99% of the time
low shell
b but bc is like good 99% of the time
good for me
fringe garden
take burst cannon is better as waveclear than as killer of bigs
rose nova
take burst cannon is better as waveclear than as killer of bigs
moreso is good as the mix of both
but not the peak of one another
analog flicker
b but bc is like good 99% of the time
Burst cannon is good to a degree and I doubt the average player can even bring the most out of it.
rose nova
Burst cannon is good to a degree and I doubt the average player can even bring t...
cube is not the average player
analog flicker
I've never played with cube so I'm left to assume
Next to I didn't refer to cube specifically
rose nova
but cube was the one to saay the bc thing so :3
fringe garden
moreso is good as the mix of both
it's wave clear that happens to be good vs bigs
not other way around
hasty bobcat
what are we yapping chat
worthy flicker
Yeah, but I dont think people would choose pistol when they know Hel rev
I use pistol For Fun sometimes tbh
It's an enjoyable weapon, it's pretty usable all things considered.
wraith marsh
idk if id call bc good wave clear
it just works
you take BC for wave clear when you need accompanying giant clear
and you arent gonna have a teammate to do that
hasty bobcat
so r7d2 solo
wraith marsh
its why its the arguable weakest S tier special
worthy flicker
BC simply feels good to use imo
lost lynx
we all scattergun is the weakest special
fringe garden
idk if id call bc good wave clear
it's worse than the hel weapons and like better than all the other specials at waveclear
ig revo and pr get more kills per refill but they dont't clear wave faster
wraith marsh
id rather have high cal for raw wave clear
worthy flicker
Hel Shotgun time lmao
Then again I don't dig specials for wave clear weapons normally ngl
wraith marsh
im the opposite
I always play wave clear
honestly
I think I could even argue PR is better for raw wave clear
with similar weaknesses
worthy flicker
I really like PR for wave clear ngl, but it requires Aim
fringe garden
pr and burst cannon have like the opposite weaknesses as waveclear, no?
rose nova
I think I could even argue PR is better for raw wave clear
i mean id argue no unless its at range
cuz u need to take ur time to headshot otherwise its 2 shots per enemy
worthy flicker
Hope you've been well Slendi
rose nova
and bc is just a single bullet
rose nova
Hope you've been well Slendi
:D hope u been well too
worthy flicker
Tbf they're both reliant on user input
hasty bobcat
I'm a big DTR fan tho
this is Voxy
worthy flicker
BC and PR are both gonna have more skill reliant clear then me going "lol" with a Hel Shotgun
worthy flicker
this is Voxy
Voxy is the only other person I know who likes to run DTR/BC tbh
Which is simply immaculate taste
steady bluff
going for r4e1 guys wish me luck 🫡
hasty bobcat
DTR is a headshot weapon
need to get used to that body + head
just doesn't click to me ngl
worthy flicker
I like DTR cause it'll one burst shooters and strikers, DMR pisses me off when it doesn't lmao
rose nova
Voxy is the only other person I know who likes to run DTR/BC tbh
dtr based
rose nova
going for r4e1 guys wish me luck 🫡
good luuuck :D
worthy flicker
going for r4e1 guys wish me luck 🫡
You got this buddy
hasty bobcat
I like DTR cause it'll one burst shooters and strikers, DMR pisses me off when i...
isn't it double head for shooters?
or am i tripping
rose nova
think its head body too
worthy flicker
I don't actually remember if it's head head or body head on shooters tbh
mystic moss
it's head body
worthy flicker
I aim for the throat
rose nova
its tooheadshots
mystic moss
yeah don't care
hasty bobcat
based
rose nova
it's head body
b but wiki D:
wraith marsh
and bc is just a single bullet
dumbing BC wave clear down to "is just a single bullet" is a bit
rose nova
is it rllY just body headshot
wraith marsh
uhh
wraith marsh
not correct
pine root
scatter wave clear
worthy flicker
BC is very skill reliant wave clear, imo anyway
pine root
is just a single bullet
rose nova
not correct
one bullet to kill a striker but u get three in the burst
but i see ur point
pine root
can u get 3 in a line with bc?
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Not really even on host
hasty bobcat
or u always need to drag or smh
hasty bobcat
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Not really even on host
aww..
pine root
dead body fix is cheating legit
hasty bobcat
can u get like 2 at least?
wraith marsh
you need to drag if its not a vertical angle
worthy flicker
Ime you need to drag BC to actually wave clear with it
hasty bobcat
sad
rose nova
if 3 enemies r in a horizontal line sure :D
hasty bobcat
less reasons to play bc cuz i'm bad 😔
worthy flicker
It feels satisfying as hell to drag 3 shooters though, like when it's just 3 of em and no crowd
wraith marsh
I had to afk so lemme explain
spare arch
less reasons to play bc cuz i'm bad 😔
that mf right there be lyin
hasty bobcat
that mf right there be lyin
naw i'm not lying
fringe garden
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Not really even on host
you can get it for sure, if you have a little highground it helps a lot
hasty bobcat
bc is really not my thing
fringe garden
i have done it semi consistently on r2d2 main bridge
worthy flicker
less reasons to play bc cuz i'm bad 😔
We are all struck by inconsistency sometimes but I believe in you
hasty bobcat
We are all struck by inconsistency sometimes but I believe in you
tq 🥺
hasty bobcat
he the goat
he capping chat i eat meds
worthy flicker
Goats do eat anything
pastel dagger
bc is really not my thing
breach cutter is cool but yea shard diff is more fun
hasty bobcat
breach cutter is cool but yea shard diff is more fun
which game are we in rn....
worthy flicker
breach cutter is cool but yea shard diff is more fun
Mini nuke>
pastel dagger
Mini nuke>
rocket jump
worthy flicker
Can you jump with it?
wraith marsh
BC and pr both offer good at range wave clear, large mag size if you are good at using it, with a fairly long reload (prs is worse but arguably you get more out of a good PR mag)
getting behind on wave leaves you severely handicapped with both weapons, close range is awful
they have similar weaknesses in chargers and nightmares, PR wins out on shooters though you can argue against the thermal
both are "good" for shadows (in different ways, BC just one shots them while pr has a thermal)
pastel dagger
yea
worthy flicker
Oh I'm about to start doing some funny stuff
pastel dagger
not with nuke no
wraith marsh
the way you wave clear with them is different but the "flow" of using them is somewhat similar
skill expression through clicking heads vs brushing
worthy flicker
Good take tbh
fringe garden
chill burst cannon has a 1.6s reload cancel and pr is 3.0
it's the difference between good and awful
wraith marsh
yeah the reload is a lot worse
hence I take BC and never PR lol
but in reality I take neither
worthy flicker
Yk guys, hammer has 0.0s reload, I think I might be onto something here
hasty bobcat
Yk guys, hammer has 0.0s reload, I think I might be onto something here
erm actually-
pastel dagger
how long is bullpup reload
worthy flicker
erm actually-
Go on, tell me you reload the hammer
hasty bobcat
Go on, tell me you reload the hammer
i mean there's delay between each hit
worthy flicker
Yes I agree
hasty bobcat
like 0.3 or smth
pastel dagger
Go on, tell me you reload the hammer
on berserker
hasty bobcat
or if u have no stam
wraith marsh
point is, unless you are absolutely insane at BC, bc and pr both suck for wave clear unless its a very controlled environment
worthy flicker
Tbf I'd equate no Stam to reloading and swing delay to fire rate
hasty bobcat
Tbf I'd equate no Stam to reloading and swing delay to fire rate
that does sound
okay
wraith marsh
I think PR is much easier to be good at wave clear with
hasty bobcat
ig
fringe garden
does reactor wave count as controlled environment
wraith marsh
and I think that is visibly true just by how many ppl take PR over bc
worthy flicker
PR is as simple as clicking on heads is
worthy flicker
Which is entirely dependent on you as a person
fringe garden
makes sense
wraith marsh
about as ideal as it gets
pastel dagger
does reactor wave count as controlled environment
provided zero desync yes
worthy flicker
I enjoy the PR tbh
hasty bobcat
i'm sad i missed burst cancel era 😔
worthy flicker
It's aesthetically pleasing as a gun
hasty bobcat
20 kills in a clip is something
pastel dagger
It's aesthetically pleasing as a gun
hel rifle looks cooler
mystic moss
idk pr users should just run revo
wraith marsh
I wouldve liked to try it but lowkey cancel did not look fun to play
hasty bobcat
I wouldve liked to try it but lowkey cancel did not look fun to play
i feel like it's really hard to maintain consistent
worthy flicker
hel rifle looks cooler
Hel Rifle is a cool sci fi gun, PR is a cool Not BAR to me
hasty bobcat
unless ure cracked ig
mystic moss
isn't it double head for shooters?
i lied it's actually double head
hasty bobcat
i lied it's actually double head
u told me that ytd
worthy flicker
If I use any Hel special it's Hel Gun ngl
hasty bobcat
so i was confused
hasty bobcat
If I use any Hel special it's Hel Gun ngl
hel shotgun...
worthy flicker
hel shotgun...
That's a main tho
wraith marsh
the realest special of them all
mystic moss
but like dtr burst is so fast that hitting double head on shooter is easy
worthy flicker
Hel Shotgun Hel Gun is a very fun loadout tho
hasty bobcat
i'm blind sorry
worthy flicker
Would recommend
hasty bobcat
but like dtr burst is so fast that hitting double head on shooter is easy
do u like aim lower part of the head or smth
worthy flicker
If they're further, yes personally
mystic moss
do u like aim lower part of the head or smth
idk i don't think
i just click mouse and shooter die
hasty bobcat
voxy mindset is real
worthy flicker
The only real advantage DMR has over DTR for me personally is that DMR is easier to use at range
But that's really situational in GTFO
hasty bobcat
it is
worthy flicker
Main damage dmr is something I'd use over DTR but, at that point I can take DTR and no booster
hasty bobcat
it's so fun to use tho
worthy flicker
Nah I agree. But when i play in this discord I do not run boosters ngl.
I'll use them when I fuck around with friends.
hasty bobcat
based
i'm still bad so just practicing and stuff
so i can actually play dmr in my speeds
worthy flicker
I also do not like DM scope tbh
The reticle is meh
Ik a lot of people mod in alt sights and what not but I play strict vanilla
Rather
I play with the kick mod and nothing else lmao
hasty bobcat
i have few fixes and archive pmuch
blissful dome
res helper
hasty bobcat
Perfect boosters*
ye
analog flicker
res helper
Because I know you eat up meds
blissful dome
</3
analog flicker
Team all 20
Ifo = 80% or 100%
blissful dome
why me
blissful dome
true
hasty bobcat
how about each of u post in an lfg channel
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
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analog flicker
how about each of u post in an lfg channel
I'm not even playing
blissful dome
lmao
hasty bobcat
:3
blissful dome
I'm not even playing
skill diff?
hasty bobcat
skill diff.
brittle schooner
I'm not even playing
no i meant ifo and sky kek
hasty bobcat
oh someone joined
analog flicker
no i meant ifo and sky kek
Why don't you just join em
blissful dome
ask them out ifo
where
hasty bobcat
???
brittle schooner
Why don't you just join em
im thinking about it but im also kinda tired
analog flicker
ask them out ifo
blissful dome
aw
analog flicker
im thinking about it but im also kinda tired
Mood. But fuck it you ballin
brittle schooner
you'll get flanked again
... your never gonna let that go are u
blissful dome
lmao
blissful dome
you'll get flanked again
"3 strikers"
analog flicker
you'll get flanked again
flash back to ifos wide screen but still got flanked by a striker
blissful dome
shushhh
hasty bobcat
... your never gonna let that go are u
I'll never forgive u dying to bio pinged enemies ngl
blissful dome
i was tired
it was like 5 am
was just testing weapons anyways
</3
sky can you join lobby </3
brittle schooner
I'll never forgive u dying to bio pinged enemies ngl
what about the run before that were u went in and woke up a c-scout when u had scattergun and bio eh? smh your lucky i wasnt recording
analog flicker
was just testing weapons anyways
When are we taking DBI into LO3
analog flicker
what about the run before that were u went in and woke up a c-scout when u had s...
No thermals. Couldn't see it
Smh
hasty bobcat
what about the run before that were u went in and woke up a c-scout when u had s...
listen
i killed a c scout
and while we clear B
u open a door
like
????
blissful dome
damn
brittle schooner
wot, i didnt open that door i was like a full meter away, didnt u open it?
hasty bobcat
one run u opened a door for toast
while we clear B
u goober
bro just missed a hammer and went opening door
brittle schooner
??? that was not me
sharp owl
Sky saying “chaos dont throw” proceeds to die to tanks several times
sharp owl
You didnt believe in solo e2
hasty bobcat
u sprint
sharp owl
You have no rights to exist
hasty bobcat
3
sharp owl
:)
sharp owl
None of them were run enders
blissful dome
okay mister competent player ur the first one on my black list
DAMN
sharp owl
Wasnt i always on the blacklist @hasty bobcat tho
hasty bobcat
IT WAS LITERARY U LMAO
star do u want me to pull up a replay mod
brittle schooner
and i have replay mod 2 prove it
hasty bobcat
i'm talking zone 1
brittle schooner
i looked
hasty bobcat
B room
lost lynx
Gtfo sucks ass
hasty bobcat
yea
sharp owl
Gtfo sucks ass
Gtfo sucks*
brittle schooner
i thought u meant the next zone i got confused
hasty bobcat
naw
sharp owl
I no longer trust sky with anything
brittle schooner
i take full responsibility for that one, but the one im talking about is all u xd
brittle schooner
None of them were run enders
what about the one were u meeled a tank?
also my guy, u made way more than 3 mistakes xd
hasty bobcat
i take full responsibility for that one, but the one im talking about is all u x...
ye might be me iidr
brittle schooner
honestly only toast didnt troll lmao, the other 3 of us trolled at least 2 runs
sharp owl
honestly only toast didnt troll lmao, the other 3 of us trolled at least 2 runs
Mwp carrier
brittle schooner
scuffed gayming
analog flicker
Sky saying “chaos dont throw” proceeds to die to tanks several times
Do you throw because sky died?
Or
Did sky die because of you throwing?
sharp owl
Do you throw because sky died?
Or
Did sky die because of you throwing?
Both apply
analog flicker
Mhm..
sharp owl
Sky is a true non believer
Anyways
The last attempt was so fucking scuffed
How we made it to reactor idk
brittle schooner
Mood. But fuck it you ballin
also late, but, ive decided 2 go 2 sleep (soon), also their full now anyways so 2 late xd
sharp owl
Then died to the wave flanking us
analog flicker
Then died to the wave flanking us
Shouldve stabilized smh
sharp owl
Shouldve stabilized smh
Cough cough sky didnt ping the flanking enemies cough cougj
analog flicker
Cough cough sky didnt ping the flanking enemies cough cougj
Just don't take bio smh
sharp owl
If you die with sky in the lobby blame him smh
sharp owl
Just don't take bio smh
So true
hasty bobcat
Cough cough sky didnt ping the flanking enemies cough cougj
are u fr
brittle schooner
i only tunnel visioned because i forgot we already lost door and i was thinking "oh i'll look when door broke"
hasty bobcat
sharp owl
I do some trolling
I was excepting like maybe 3-4 sleepers not 30 of them
Honestly that run was just scuffed as fuck
Im so confused on why the ones infront of me and toast got stuck and never came
E2 i guess
brittle schooner
meh, it is what it is
sharp owl
Honestly the death wasn’t much of an issue since i was getting kinda tired and i think we were all just tired so
It came at a good time
naive rover
Hey,
Any of you mega gamers ever beat R4E1 Downwards? My team is struggling pretty hard on killing the tanks quickly.
We can’t make it past the second alarm door (Class S I).
Are there specific rooms you guys bait the tank into to make it easier to approach?
Specific guns?
rose nova
Specific guns?
thee specific gun is probs a scattergun, specially on client cuz it makes it a joke its like 3 4 shots square in the back and it dies- but stuff like burst cannon is also very good
pine root
Are there specific rooms you guys bait the tank into to make it easier to approa...
What guns are you using
Any boss killer can do really good here but tbh your tank fight might just not be very good rn
pine root
We can’t make it past the second alarm door (Class S I).
Why can’t you clear the second alarm
rose nova
this is the level to practice tank killin tbf
pine root
Are you getting a tank?
junior latch
Any boss killer can do really good here but tbh your tank fight might just not b...
this is fair
but if they arent using scattergun
its also just "scattergun" 
gusty burrow
If you do pick up a scattergun then your best bet for killing tank fast is to bait him to a door: get the whole team behind a closed door, when he starts banging on it you open and blast him, aiming to kill him within one mag of all your guns.
Otherwise, you just want a spot where there is good cover that give you multiple angles on him.
For Z456 (zone with SI alarm) you best bet is generally area B, trying to get him in the downstairs area.
You can have people on the catwalk above him, and even some close on the truck/truck bed.
@naive rover ^
naive rover
Yeah we actually had him in that room but the Tank wouldn’t go into the bottom floor between the catwalks.
S I alarm isn’t too hard it’s just long and if the tank shows up in there cause we didn’t time it right we are screwed.
This is also the first level we’ve had to deal with multiple tanks, plus they’re not sleeping so that makes it hard to start.
rose nova
tanks were everyyyy 4 minutes right?
rose nova
S I alarm isn’t too hard it’s just long and if the tank shows up in there cause ...
take into account u can always press O and check the time
i fucking miss the wiki saying how long an S scan took-
but u can calculate it like that
god i dont the wiki formatting
shut vapor
tanks were everyyyy 4 minutes right?
unfortunately
rose nova
should be every 12 seconds
shut vapor
fr
gusty burrow
S I alarm isn’t too hard it’s just long and if the tank shows up in there cause ...
Generally you want to get fully prepped for the alarm, and then wait for a tank to spawn, kill it and immediately go do the alarm.
gusty burrow
Yeah we actually had him in that room but the Tank wouldn’t go into the bottom f...
He'll follow after the player he is aggro'ed on. But if another player shoots him he'll reaggro onto them instead. He can also reaggro if he loses LoS of his taget and has LoS to someone else.
You generally just want to have everyone hide while you let one person bait him where you want
And then start blasting.
burnt flume
i fucking miss the wiki saying how long an S scan took-
iirc it's 100s for a large sustain scan as 4 players
hasty bobcat
i fucking miss the wiki saying how long an S scan took-
it does say it
in alarms section
modern coral
iirc it's 100s for a large sustain scan as 4 players
P sure that's solo
W8, I think the R8E2 are half duration
so nvm
burnt flume
time to check my HDD for one of 20 pub vods
burnt flume
yeah, 100s for a standard S1 scan as 4 players
i guess i also could've checked speedrun vods
rose nova
in alarms section
wheres the alarms section i just see it says [CLASS I S ALARM]
well says large
oh entering the alarm page directly- mh
u could just put it there but fine ok
rose nova
_>
naive rover
Yeah see that’s the problems,
We take 3+ minutes sometimes to kill thw big fucker than get screwed on the alarms.
The info on how he aggros is good though.
burnt flume
out of curiosity, what weapons are you using?
naive rover
I think we have troubke running too far from him, which why whenever we run behind to shotgun his back he’s already looking at us.
lost lynx
Two Carbines, Choke Mod, Scatter Gun, Pistol, and Precision.
Choke mod isnt really a good option when scatter exists
Yes it does kill Big things fast
But scatter just does it better
lost lynx
Still
rose nova
one takes care of the tank and the other... shoots at hordes?
lost lynx
No reason to bring choke mod at all
rose nova
enemies i guess
rose nova
its not the panacea but it is not the crime to humanity everyone makes it up to be
i used it for r8e2
lost lynx
its not the panacea but it is not the crime to humanity everyone makes it up to ...
Hey
Im just saying what i think
lost lynx
:3
fringe garden
one takes care of the tank and the other... shoots at hordes?
you don't need more than 2 people actually shooting the alarms anyways if they just have decent guns for it so the second scatter can just be for overkill on tank/insurance in case mom pull
rose nova
niche to pull moms and if its an accident ur wiping probably anyways
wraith marsh
whats wrong with taking 2 of the most op weapon in the game
rose nova
whats wrong with taking 2 of the most op weapon in the game
feel like 2 scatterguns its, not rlly hyper helpful if ur taking so much time in killing it and also in the S scans
maybe its just me but feel like they could benefit for something else
rose nova
if with one they take 4 minutes i doubt 2 make much more- and they also said is cuz tanks face them so maybe a hel rifle would work better for both the S scan and also grabbing its aggro
from afar
fringe garden
unironically a problem they might be having
is that the non scatter players are popping tumors
pine root
Scatter tank
unreal crystal
hel rifle, great for pulling tank aggro
pine root
Is hard guys
fringe garden
so scatter gets no value (comparatively)
rose nova
a?
pine root
scatter is to hard for players
fringe garden
Maybe they should play sniper
the sniper will take the 4 minutes to hit the 7 shots it needs
wraith marsh
you do know you dont need to deal even remotely significant damage to draw tank aggro right
rose nova
i almost feel better recommending chokemod lol
hasty bobcat
scatter is to hard for players
💀
fringe garden
(not really but there is no way they'd do better with it than with scatter i just don't see it)
wraith marsh
I LOVE SPINNING TANKS
hasty bobcat
ikr
fringe garden
tank stagger table tennis with scattergun
unreal crystal
lf hani tankspinning duo
hasty bobcat
my team actually perma staggering no way
unreal crystal
scatter is to hard for players
Also hard disagree
as long as the player knows it’s a close range gun and knows they have to hit tumors they will get value off of it
Not necessarily maximum value
But it’s still good value
hasty bobcat
they die to tank melee after tho
unreal crystal
true
rose nova
its hard to tank when ur teammates are at ur side u kno
pine root
I think all players are bad
fringe garden
jish scatter 3 shot is not consistent even for good players
rose nova
hard to run there
pine root
jish scatter 3 shot is not consistent even for good players
All players are bad
correct
rose nova
:3 me
hasty bobcat
I think all players are bad
tumors are tend to break 😔
fringe garden
the 3 shot isn't consistent because spread pattern rng i think
what tumors pop is random so getting the damage necessary on 3rd hit is bit rng
hasty bobcat
i keep forgetting tank tumors are 3x multi?
fringe garden
yes
hasty bobcat
it's not that tight ig then
wraith marsh
your math is wrong then
wraith marsh
1000
fringe garden
150 per tumor
wraith marsh
...
hasty bobcat
scatter shot is 150 or smth
fringe garden
scatter has 112 prec damage
fringe garden
actually how does scatter 3 shot work
wraith marsh
you have 1 pellet
fringe garden
oh nvm it works
hasty bobcat
336x3
fringe garden
112 is just barely above 1000/9
hasty bobcat
i'm sorry team my brain is fried
unreal crystal
I’d win
lost lynx
i'm sorry team my brain is fried
You need to grind E2 more
hasty bobcat
based
hasty bobcat
You need to grind E2 more
no please
lost lynx
With IFO
hasty bobcat
ppl say i throw now
wraith marsh
beth clears jish as a scatter main ngl
hasty bobcat
I don't want to play it anymore...
rose nova
i clear everyone as bat user <- only bat user
fringe garden
otherwise you lose
yeah so 1 unfortunate tumor pop in middle of back and it's pretty much ggs
wraith marsh
you can barrel stuff single tumors its just hard
or have enough ping that you can shoot twice before a tumor registers as broken
wraith marsh
I stuck jump all my tank kills
naive rover
I was using Arbalist in our first two drops on R4E1 (my go to favorite). My job normally is to handle waves. If we’re on a level with mostly Chargers, I switch to Hel Gun for the easy overpen.
pine root
@unreal crystal
hasty bobcat
chat
pine root
If the scatter player kills
naive rover
I realized very quickly we were doing dog shit against these tanks so I switched to Scatter Gun, which has been helpful, but running around the map to hit this guy in the back is kind of a pain.
fringe garden
I was using Arbalist in our first two drops on R4E1 (my go to favorite). My job ...
drop the arbalist and pick hel gun every time
except against the chargers, take hel rifle against those
hasty bobcat
burst cannon anyone
pine root
burst cannon anyone
Die
hasty bobcat
WHY
naive rover
We had someone try that but the fog makes it very difficult to see what we’re actually aiming at.
fringe garden
chill conviced me to try bc with the r7d2 solo and im now an addict
pine root
We dislike bc here
hasty bobcat
I'm sorry jish 😭
fringe garden
We had someone try that but the fog makes it very difficult to see what we’re ac...
bio tracker?
unreal crystal
Jish if they miss all their shots on sniper how are they gonna help
rose nova
We had someone try that but the fog makes it very difficult to see what we’re ac...
if u want an mg pick veruta- arbalist is a lil worse in that regard
unreal crystal
or what if there’s a 2nd scatter player
naive rover
Yes but like…
pine root
Jish if they miss all their shots on sniper how are they gonna help
The reload makes it so they use ammo slowly
hasty bobcat
chat if they miss gun won't really help...
naive rover
We know where he is just not what we’re pointing at on him.
tall hawk
return to blunt force trauma
naive rover
But that’s usually in big rooms
fringe garden
We know where he is just not what we’re pointing at on him.
you're staying too far away from him then
just use some cover to duck away if he attacks you
the sound queue is really helpful for this
if he is facing you (which you can see when you peek) you can call to teammate that he's good to shoot
naive rover
I think our main issue is we didn’t understand how aggro works on them (aside from shooting them obviously).
fringe garden
but the thing tru said about door is the best strat if you have a door available
big door is A LOT better than small door for the door strat
hasty bobcat
I think our main issue is we didn’t understand how aggro works on them (aside fr...
just place 4 players around it
if it aggroes on one 2 players can shoot it and 1 has clean shots
naive rover
Does Bishop pull aggro on Tank? If so that might be making us throw pretty hard.
Confusing the actual players because situation is no longer in our control?
hasty bobcat
u can do same trick in trio ngl
just make sure u have at least 2 players on opposite sides
and ur good
fringe garden
there are really 2 good positionings for killing tank
- high ground, the closer to vertically above the tank you have sightline the better
- props you can hide behind that you can lead the tank in circles around
for tank in zone with the class S I
if you can get scatter players and tank to be close with the pipe thingy on ground it sort of just solves itself i think
high orchid
you also could go in with your melee and beat him up
gusty burrow
I realized very quickly we were doing dog shit against these tanks so I switched...
You don't really want to run around the map, find a good spot to hide that's near him, pop out and blast when he's looking away.
I think you probably need to have one of your non scatter players really intentionally play for you getting close. Something like:
- You get slightly close, start hiding.
- Other player gets on the far side of tank.
- They comm they're taking aggro - they stand in the open and just repeatedly shoot the front of the tank.
- Now you run out, get close and blast.
If the player taking aggro hides so tank is able to reaggro on you, they're throwing, their job is to stand in the open and take damage until they die.
(Ideally you actually pop and blast it, so they don't die, but it's their job to keep the aggro for you to do so)
You probably want the bot not with you as well, just have it with someone else.
low shell
i love tank pingpong bullying
low shell
i mean when they just stand still in place instead of charging, you kinda just abuse their relatively poor turn arounds
you can legit just stagger them bc scatter is op ( other shotguns do nice still ) 😭
any choke mod vs tank enjoyers?
high orchid
nah I'm a melee vs tank enjoyer
lost lynx
there are 0 choke mod users left in existence
hello
im here
hi
how u doing
i exist
low shell
teamskychokemod
low shell
if only chokemod has reload cancel or a good reload
lost lynx
sawed off is cool and all
low shell
i actually use choke mod far beyond sawed off range
lost lynx
but can it shoot as fast as choke mod?
low shell
oh also that
the choke mod's choke actually lets it hit top tumors of a tank
pretty nice
modern coral
It just doesn't matter.
low shell
therefore it does
modern coral
Sawed-Off is a massively overpowered Main, and Choke is a very underwhelming Special.
sharp siren
short rifle its the best gun
modern coral
Most pub choke players are ass, tho
low shell
i love shooting so fast i dont know if i killed whats infront of me
pine root
short rifle its the best gun
Macro
modern coral
insane dps
lost lynx
i love shooting so fast i dont know if i killed whats infront of me
i love shooting so fast im aiming to the ceiling
low shell
choke mod macro vs short rifle macro
pine root
choke mod macro vs short rifle macro
Choke mod macro was so cool
low shell
i love shooting so fast im aiming to the ceiling
the recoil isnt bad against giants when controlled
lost lynx
yeah
lost lynx
its pretty bad shooting fast against smalls tho
low shell
its pretty bad shooting fast against smalls tho
maybe on the bottom of the stairs
low shell
client shenanigans?
pine root
client shenanigans?
Yeah
lost lynx
does it still works?
low shell
yeah i love desync! ( ping )
lost lynx
fair enough
low shell
it feels grrat
and choke mod is okay in other areas
it is just a worse scatter in this case
pine root
I used to solo mom with hammer combate shotty and hel shotyy without birth
And now
That is just free
Always
low shell
lmfak
pine root
It was the start of the descent for me
The second descent was practicing double hits in cconsole
low shell
it makes me sad how both shotgun and scatter have enough mag to kill 2 giants without reload, while choke mod doesnt
low shell
ig
pine root
If it makes you feel better
pine root
i appreciate it
I used to spawn 4 charger giants and try to solo melee all of them
man now hammer isn’t as broken
lost lynx
wtf
pine root
Two hit and a tap
lost lynx
💀
low shell
mfw taps perma stun
pine root
There was a rounding error
pine root
Ye
naive rover
You don't really want to run around the map, find a good spot to hide that's nea...
I’m assuming this means when tank loses LoS on aggroed player it turns to the guy chasing from behind because there’s nothing in the way? Like, it doesn’t actually have to be looking at you for it to aggro it just needs no obstacles in the way?
When awake, obviously.
low shell
sometimes i wonder how the balance of this game can be so broken at times
would you call scattergun a modded gun with how busted it is
soulsniper some may say
pine root
sometimes i wonder how the balance of this game can be so broken at times
People can’t play the game
They do something with no idea
How it will effect everything else
low shell
a good amount of people that i play with are fairly more competent than average destiny player
modern coral
I’m assuming this means when tank loses LoS on aggroed player it turns to the gu...
LoS is a technical term that doesn't depend on where the enemy is looking. It just means a raycast drawn between two points is unobstructed.
modern coral
People can’t play the game
Metagames in general are kind of hard to perceive if you are not super pushing things.
But also, a lot of the calls were bad anyway.
Autos still suck, nerfing Sniper is insane, buffing Scatter is insane.
naive rover
All this info has been very helpful everyone!
I will let my group know what you’ve all told me.
Not sure when will get to put it to use but I’ll update you guys at some point. Thanks again for all this.
daring ginkgo
There will be fair amount of tanks on next rundowns
R5 have at least 5 lvls with tanks, maybe even more
Just realized, that almost all of those r5 tanks are optional (sec or ov zone) or can be avoided by stealth/running 😂
I think only r5d1 have mandatory tank fight on main and thats it
mellow hedge
technically every tank in the game is optional
daring ginkgo
Kiting tanks all day
sharp owl
technically almost every enemy is optional
I think there’s probably a way to pacifist most of the game
Maybe not r6d1
I dont think you can kraken skip right?
Playing pacifist gtfo would be a hard challenge
junior latch
I dont think you can kraken skip right?
You cant
Its also the only leve where you have to kill an enemy
sharp owl
You cant
Gtfo sucks smh, now i get why pablo hates it cant do true pacifist
I do think it would be an interesting challenge though
Im not good enough for that though
It would require mass kiting, probably a couple door bugs and a shit ton of speedrun strats
Basically something you can do if you feel like gtfo isnt Masochistic enough
low shell
is gtfo pacifist just endless kiting
low shell
actually
it would be fun to pacfisit with a group where you stall with c foams and speedrun
shove meta
verbal trout
shove meta
if you're actively hitting the enemies in the face with your weapon but not damaging them is it still pacifist
low shell
if you're actively hitting the enemies in the face with your weapon but not dama...
i wouldnt allow staggering with damage, unless it would be more interesting
but shooting to wake up enemies would obv be okay
low shell
no lol
mines are not preplaced, albeit a modded rundown with preplaced mines would be cool
sharp owl
I love starting the most goofiest conversations
verbal trout
all kraken levels will be doomed
sharp owl
all kraken levels will be doomed
Only r6d1 is unbeatable
verbal trout
how do you beat r8e2
sharp owl
how do you beat r8e2
Kraken skip
verbal trout
alarm?
sharp owl
Alarms are doable just be ready to spend a good 10 minutes micro managing doors
I believe the challenge would be doable with a full team of 4 with c-foam boosters
low shell
you have more c foam boosters than the rest of your team if i had to guess
like do you even use them occasionally
shut vapor
Alarms are doable just be ready to spend a good 10 minutes micro managing doors
Door bug the start 
sharp owl
Door bug the start <:teehee:1090711695141380146>
Door bugs should only be used if the level feels physically impossible to do
Also
Have fun with scouts, enemies waking up, and other stealth bs
low shell
R8E2 pacifist with doorbug would still be pain
sharp owl
Tho for e2 and most e levels i feel like skips and door bug should be allowed
sharp owl
R8E2 pacifist with doorbug would still be pain
Wake one enemy and its over
Why am I making rules for a challenge no one is going to try xddddd
low shell
kiting scouts 
low shell
Why am I making rules for a challenge no one is going to try xddddd
i thought am the one doing that
shut vapor
I almost did Solo Trials: Seer pacifist
sharp owl
We should try this
low shell
if i would get into GTFO speedrunning, i'd immediately run this new epic category
verbal trout
doorbug just sounds so cheese basically trivializes so many things in the level
low shell
yeah but not today
low shell
by that point why are you trying a challenge even
the challenge is to not wake sleeping enemies
only in E2
sharp owl
doorbug just sounds so cheese basically trivializes so many things in the level
Pacifist kinda puts a bullet in that impenetrable defense though
shut vapor
by that point why are you trying a challenge even
Just wait till you hear about preR5 long kiting
verbal trout
pre R5 ok but stamina now is not infinite
verbal trout
old hags in the complex trying to outrun while having asma
sharp owl
Anything that isnt D level reactors and some E levels shouldn’t be able to use bugs
verbal trout
low shell
i mean i will say
sharp owl
Have fun doing a reactor pacifist
low shell
there is fun to be had even if you dont finish a level
how far can you get kind of deal
sharp owl
there is fun to be had even if you dont finish a level
Id say every single A level in the game is possible pacifist
shut vapor
A fun challenge would be beat gtfo at 20 fov where it's still playable
sharp owl
Even R8A2 sec proll
sharp owl
A fun challenge would be beat gtfo at 20 fov where it's still playable
I hope you die
Thats too far
low shell
Id say every single A level in the game is possible pacifist
i mean you can easily do melee, so why not c foam stall everything
verbal trout
Even R8A2 sec proll
you can except blood door mother might be a slight problem
sharp owl
you can except blood door mother might be a slight problem
True
low shell
sigh, mothers
verbal trout
but for speedrunning that level you straight up just run through all scouts
sharp owl
but for speedrunning that level you straight up just run through all scouts
3 fps gaming with 3 scout waves queued
verbal trout
yea but some try to kill it in the process
here you just run and don't care about any enemies coming towards you
sharp owl
A fun challenge would be beat gtfo at 20 fov where it's still playable
Do you unironically play at 50 fps tho
unreal crystal
I love going long
low shell
i mean scouts are generally not bad to just hammer down
sharp owl
What?
unreal crystal
Do you unironically play at 50 fps tho
Doesn’t everyone
low shell
charger scouts would get shot i suppose
unreal crystal
This game is optimised like ass
sharp owl
Fov*
shut vapor
Do you unironically play at 50 fps tho
55
sharp owl
i meant fov*
unreal crystal
Oh
verbal trout
3 fps gaming with 3 scout waves queued
just run your rtx 5090 super pro max 8k HD
unreal crystal
Yeah he does
low shell
ah yes