gtfo-chat

[sharp owl]

This SHIT ASS

[half shale]

109775243701378438

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[half shale]

Funny enough the level we're doing is R8A2

So thanks for the code

[lost lynx]

np

good luck

youll need it

[hasty bobcat]

the saddest checkpoint ngl

[pine root]

There is worse check points surely

Found memories of r7d2 checkpoint hell

Or r7d1 checkpoint hell

[hasty bobcat]

wait where's checkpoint on d1 again

been a while

a2 just feels so boring if u don't get it first try

[pine root]

D1 check point is after class 10 charger

But you could get to the checkpoint solo with just a little bit of kiting shadows

And you could pull both boss rooms and the charger room scan and the error

then checkpoint then pub for some players

[pine root]

People just play to slow

[hasty bobcat]

it's like 10 mins to get reseted

[limber notch]

[hasty bobcat]

and then it repeats like 4 times cuz ur pub can't run

i'm sad

[limber notch]

If you have time to chat, come join me for R7E1

smh

[pine root]

LOL

LOL

[hasty bobcat]

bro I'm in bed

why

[pine root]

Noby Brazil skips today

[hasty bobcat]

no trust

:3

they have like 30 fps

[pine root]

100% no trust

[limber notch]

Why are you asking me as to why you are in bed and I'm not with you instead of playing GTFO?

[hasty bobcat]

actual setup debuff

[limber notch]

[hasty bobcat]

noby

i

[pine root]

You can win a Brazil skip on 20

[hasty bobcat]

😔

[hasty bobcat]

chat pmom birthed

[limber notch]

I recently incresed my avg fps to 60

1% lows at 40

[pine root]

then your gaming

[limber notch]

Tweaked some NVidia driver settings

[hasty bobcat]

ur brazil skip was scuffed jish

iirc

[pine root]

wave 3

😭

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[pine root]

Yeah there is like a minute of time save

It is the closest e tier to full optimization

But the ending just kinda sucks man

[hasty bobcat]

can u cancel reactor waves

somehow

[pine root]

Not really

[hasty bobcat]

just thinking about that scan

[pine root]

The charger

Scan doesn’t matter

[hasty bobcat]

ye

think so

[pine root]

The chargers are forced to spawn in that room

they spawn miles away

[hasty bobcat]

naw its more like

if tp can be useful anyhow

[pine root]

we think at this point unless you find a new skip

Brazil skip is needed

[hasty bobcat]

psure

just too much time wasted

[pine root]

Only way it wouldn’t be is a perfect scan at the beginning

Followed by guessing a code

LOL

[hasty bobcat]

yeah exactly

[limber notch]

How many codes are there?

[pine root]

4

[limber notch]

In the game

[hasty bobcat]

would be funny if one of wrs would've just guessed code

[pine root]

900 things

[hasty bobcat]

and make it pmuch impossible to beat

[wraith marsh]

hear me out

[pine root]

But for speedruns we kinda determined guessing codes would be cringe

So we forced the you need half rule

[wraith marsh]

I camp pablo on reactor term and spam input commands while shooting charger wave

[limber notch]

1 person stays at terminal while the other 2 go for the code

And keeps guessing

Until the code is found

🧠

[hasty bobcat]

erm

[pine root]

yeah it just makes for really bad speedrun content

[hasty bobcat]

u have extract scan

[hasty bobcat]

i agree

it is funny tho

[pine root]

It is funny

it used to be you could know the reactor codes

By the key number

Because there was only like 300 possible seeds

[limber notch]

What if... And hear me out... You can only guess the code and you're forced to hold out until you do

[hasty bobcat]

noby

[limber notch]

Not a SR per se

[hasty bobcat]

noby please

[limber notch]

But a challenge run

Surely

[hasty bobcat]

noby go sleep

[pine root]

There is a really old r2d2 speedrun that does this

[lost lynx]

N o

[hasty bobcat]

I'm not typing 900 codes

[lost lynx]

770*

[hasty bobcat]

my bad

[pine root]

Know it all

[lost lynx]

I know all of them

[limber notch]

We need a mod that adds wordle for reactor codes

If you fail to guess in 6 attempts it restarts the wave with a new code

xd

[hasty bobcat]

4 letter wordle

[limber notch]

Ok, fair

[hasty bobcat]

that sounds pretty fun ngl

[limber notch]

4 attempts

[pine root]

It wouldn’t be that bad

[lost lynx]

Ask modders

[unkempt peak]

dont we have excel for this? i guess it's outdated now

[pine root]

They increased the number of possible seeds

[unkempt peak]

ahhh unfortunate

[pine root]

To beyond a human scale to learn them

[lost lynx]

Tbh
You can guess most of the passwords with 1 or 2 letters

[pine root]

it happened half way through r7

[pine root]

Na we are talking about tracking all seeds

[limber notch]

That's assuming it's one of the split letter passwords

[pine root]

And identity codes that way

[hasty bobcat]

r8b3 speeds moment

[lost lynx]

Im talking
About the wordle thing

Not the seed

[pine root]

Mb I through you did a different reply

[lost lynx]

[hasty bobcat]

grats on new e2 pb btw

[limber notch]

Anyway, since sky betrayed me so violently and ruthlessly, anyone here wants to run some R7E1 strat-testing? :)

[hasty bobcat]

I'm gonna murder u

it's 4:34 in the morning

[limber notch]

Yeah? How are you gonna do it when you're not even in the game?

[hasty bobcat]

i

[limber notch]

That's what I thought

[hasty bobcat]

🥺😭

[limber notch]

L

[pine root]

It feels good we plan to upload a quad perceptive

[limber notch]

Perspective?

[pine root]

Perspective idk I can’t read

[limber notch]

Close enough

[pine root]

4 players playing the game on one screen

[hasty bobcat]

u already did no

[unkempt peak]

i can play with u

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[pine root]

Do you can watch all 4 at once

[hasty bobcat]

if you'd like zoom on players

occasionally

if smth is happening

that would be gold

[pine root]

It would be a good idea

[hasty bobcat]

get that sub 40!!!!

[limber notch]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/749737595558166528

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[unkempt peak]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[limber notch]

Bruh

[hasty bobcat]

[limber notch]

I'm answering specifically you

I'll make LFG post when I make the lobby

[hasty bobcat]

I won't t lfg u noby but

i hate u 😭

[limber notch]

:(

[unkempt peak]

im playing atm

[limber notch]

Ah, mb

[limber notch]

Do you wanna join after you finish?

[mystic moss]

left on read 😔

[limber notch]

Surely they're mid-alarm and too busy and not just donowalling me

[pine root]

I think

We want to optimize r5e1 more next

It can go down a lot more

[ivory pier]

you can still just enter every code at once

but maybe add intentional delay so your game doesnt crash from registering hundreds of commands at once

for reactors

not for locked terminals

[latent palm]

Bro never read my dDM

[latent palm]

Omg it wesley

[ivory pier]

omg!!

[abstract olive]

bass has so much potential

wasted on being a mg player (“If you dont wanna i join in your game, block me please. the best way to me not see your invite! thanks!🤓 ❤️”)

[real monolith]

Code is randomized by the second by scanned lava lamps like cloudfare headquarters

[vale canopy]

hello

[real monolith]

Heyo

[magic escarp]

iirc they retired the wall like last year

the west truly has fallen

must have gotten wrong info, long lives the wall

[ivory pier]

mg slander !!

[inland swallow]

what with servers guys?

[lost lynx]

?

You mean game servers?

[inland swallow]

yes

[lost lynx]

This game doesnt use servers

Its P2P

The host IS the server

[magic escarp]

Partially true but there's still servers relied on for matchmaking

but basically it only really matters when joining games

after that just blame ur host for being too oor to afford real internet

[lost lynx]

It's always the host fault

[stark idol]

Me when my scattergun doesn’t one-shot a mother

[lost lynx]

Correction: it two shots 🤓

[stark idol]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

BRUH

[rose nova]

:3

[honest parrot]

Should I update my connection post again

[sharp owl]

n

o

[honest parrot]

Or should I just let the people come in and get lost in tech support forum

The lovely mess it is

...I should really sort things out one day

And find out where the bug wiki is

I love misinfo that gives me hope

[sharp owl]

first run of the day, room one restart

this is going to be f u n

i hjavent touched gtfo in like 3 days but fucking hell'

[rose nova]

teehee

[mystic moss]

chat is it toxic to be a doubter and believe that chaos isn't ever going to be capable of making it past the first class vi in the r8e2 solo

[sharp owl]

im literally going through withdraw and playing r8e2 solo is not helping my mental

[mystic moss]

wtf are you withdrawing from

[sharp owl]

but i cant get rusty so i do like 30mins to an hour of grinding a day so i dont lose muscle memory

[sharp owl]

meds

[mystic moss]

oh i hope you get through it soon :(

[lost lynx]

Nope

[lost lynx]

Nah
Just post a mesage and delete it
So the thread goes all the way up

[sharp owl]

not gonna explain much but the tldr is i now take a lower dose of anti depressants and its not fun

[mystic moss]

gl with the occasional brain zaps

[ivory pier]

you should start gambling

[wind belfry]

is it worth me leaving E levels to the end, im wanting to work through the rundowns chronologically but im struggling with r2e1

[lost lynx]

Yeah

You can skip them

[wind belfry]

alr, cheers

[lost lynx]

Most of players skip E tiers at first

Lol

[wind belfry]

lmao okay

the end just sucks

so much

[rose nova]

thats just the general advice for every rundown, if u get hard haard stuck just go to the next

on r2 people skip on d2 or e1

[wind belfry]

i guess thats fair

[rose nova]

on r4 people skip on d2 or 2... or c3 lmao

[wind belfry]

oh god really?

[rose nova]

on r5, people skip it, cuz jesus fucking christ

[wind belfry]

lmaooo

[rose nova]

and then r6 is ez again :3 and fluffy

[lost lynx]

Thats true
I left R5 for the end

Is so

Fucking

AWFULL

[wind belfry]

really?

[rose nova]

people skip r5 when c1 :3

SKMDKSM

well im exaggerating

[wind belfry]

haha yeah i can guess

[rose nova]

but it does have a fuckin steep difficulty curve and on the A tiers it already gets crazy

[wind belfry]

gotcha okay

[rose nova]

but yeh and then just the only one i would recommend not touching until the very end

is r8

cuz its very story focused

[wind belfry]

aight, thanks alot

[rose nova]

good luck on ur gtfoing :3

[wind belfry]

:3

[rose nova]

and if u have any other questions do ask

teehee

[wind belfry]

shall do!

[shut vapor]

me when Class LIX scan 😔

[rose nova]

me when class DCLXVI

[shut vapor]

hop on twitch 👀

[daring ginkgo]

guys

#gtfo-media message

fcking did r6c3

[pine root]

Let’s goo

[daring ginkgo]

about your question, checkpoint do not stop timer xd

ending was absolutely unexpected

i killed 3rd spawned tank after opening door to zone 175

[pine root]

Ah

why guns were you running

[daring ginkgo]

then i reached extraction scan asap, and at 40% ANOTHER tank spawned

luckily bots had almost full hp, but then wave of enemies spawned

so as you can see i almost choked at like very end

but dauda carry 💪

[daring ginkgo]

me sawed-off + scatter, bots carbine and arbalist

finally i can move on on next lvl, it took way more time, than i expected

[pine root]

Scatter for tanks?

[daring ginkgo]

yeah and pretty good vs crowds

first time i used scatter + hammer through 6 rundowns

[pine root]

I think burst cannon is better here ngl

[daring ginkgo]

i am not very good with it vs small fries

[pine root]

Ahh makes sense

[quiet ingot]

DMs for fun

[pine root]

Your a dungeons master for fun

That is great

I am a dungeon master to keep my social circle alive

For one more day

[mellow hedge]

[quiet ingot]

Dm me

[mellow hedge]

Dm me

[quiet ingot]

I did reply me

[alpine scaffold]

Congrats

Now its time for D1?

Iirc R6CX only unlocks after R6d1

Well, if yes

Bring sniper(I'm not joking)

🫡

[daring ginkgo]

r6cx

i am on it rn

[alpine scaffold]

Nice so

[sharp owl]

solo?

[daring ginkgo]

with bots

[sharp owl]

hope the uplink spawns are good for you

enemy spawns*

[daring ginkgo]

spoiler

[sharp owl]

🍕

[daring ginkgo]

bots meleeing flyers, fun

[narrow walrus]

hey uh anyone has any advice for a new moron in the game? ive been stuck in the first mission for about an hour

[hasty bobcat]

watch the stealth guide by d4rkeva

[narrow walrus]

roger that

[daring ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PP1U_MM74&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdMxvQ0Jiv8&t=0s

[fringe garden]

bring burst sentries if you're failing the alarms
otherwise it's a matter of stealth

[analog flicker]

I believe in the shotgun sentry

(It's bad. Don't take it. I'm being sarcastic)

[low shell]

bringingn't a sentry

[analog flicker]

This gtfo twitch stream

On break

"Yo let's 2v2 clash Royale rq"

[outer cradle]

The last time I tried playing this game with friends I ran into game-breaking bugs that prevented mission items from spawning or counting as completed. Is this still the case? I'd really like tog et back into playing GTFO with mates if the bugs aren't that bad.

[real monolith]

Its not buggy anymore

At least not in my experience

[analog flicker]

The game still has several bugs that can occur.

But it still runs fine

[lost lynx]

The game pretty much "works"

Some bugs here and there

But gamebreaking glitches arent that common right now

[analog flicker]

It also kinda depends if your group gets desync bugs often or not

Because funny game has no servers. So they go p2p

[magic escarp]

Well tbf that's not p2p inherent problem

[lost lynx]

Honestly if i had to make a guess
I have only encountered like 5 actual gamebreaking bugs
I do find a lot of small ones

[outer cradle]

I last played in Rundown 7 and we had a bug where if we reloaded a checkpoint after failing, mission items would either disappear or wouldn't be recognised by the game.

[lost lynx]

That does happens
If You are holding an item

[magic escarp]

dw not game breaking/your fault for using checkpoints

[lost lynx]

Just drop it before doing the scan

And You are golden

[analog flicker]

Locking terms iirc is related to the desync'd person

[outer cradle]

Is it a reliable bug?

Like does it happen every time?

[lost lynx]

Nah

[analog flicker]

Not all the time

[lost lynx]

It isnt that common

[magic escarp]

Which is still not inherent to p2p

[lost lynx]

I only have seen it twice

[magic escarp]

Some of the stuff is just bad netcode, that could be made as badly with centralized

Is my point

[analog flicker]

:P k

[magic escarp]

p2p not to blame

[lost lynx]

GTFO is bad

[analog flicker]

yes

[real monolith]

Fr

[magic escarp]

ong

[outer cradle]

Welp, I don't think I'll be getting back into it then

Shame really. We want to like the game

[lost lynx]

All games have bugs

[wicked solstice]

The checkpoint/big item bug was fixed

[lost lynx]

This one isnt any different

[analog flicker]

If anything. It's best to not checkpoint for the smoothest experience.

[wicked solstice]

One of the only ones lmao

[outer cradle]

Yeah but not when a bug prevents an hour of gameplay to go down the drain

[lost lynx]

Me when a bot respawns with nothing

[analog flicker]

Unfortunately

[lost lynx]

[magic escarp]

me when bot forgets to join scan sometimes in the middle of a wave

so you have to somehow quick react

[wicked solstice]

yeah, unfortunately it is just better to not use checkpoints

[outer cradle]

It's one thing if we make a mistake and lose an hour of progress.
It's another if a bug does it

[magic escarp]

and kick it

[wicked solstice]

But they’re a lot better now

[analog flicker]

I'm also laughing at the amount of ppl who think the bayonet rifle is trash

[lost lynx]

Checkpoints bad

[analog flicker]

Hd2

[lost lynx]

[wicked solstice]

Keep in mind the game was built without them, that’s why they’re so much worse than the rest

[mental escarp]

hello guys

[lost lynx]

GTFO is way better If You dont use them

#how-to-matchmake

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[magic escarp]

Tbf that still should not be an argument

"The game is not buggy if you don't use the bugged stuck" is just

yeah

[wicked solstice]

I’m only defending 10CC here because they actually fixed that bug

[junior latch]

Well
Using a checkpoint kinda means you did

They are sadly not well implemented

[wicked solstice]

otherwise yeah, they kind of just abandoned the game

[lost lynx]

What about the other 1000000 bugs this game has

[wicked solstice]

Exactly

[junior latch]

most bugs that actually ruin a game are rare
Super level specific
or desync based (shit connection between host and player)

[analog flicker]

walks into doorway and sees the void

[junior latch]

Without this ax skip wouldnt be a thing

[outer cradle]

I've had other bugs not relating to checkpoints that have prevented missions. Items not spawning or guns not reloading properly. Dunno if that's still a thing, though

[lost lynx]

Your character forgot how to reload

It happens

[magic escarp]

But once again the bots sometimes just not going to checkpoint is rare

But when it happens it can count as game ruining

[lost lynx]

They have amnesia or something

[analog flicker]

Shotgun still has the reload bug? Or was that fixed? Outside of reloading one bullet less

[junior latch]

1st thats extremely rare and as we know only happens even remotely regularly on 2 levels

The gun thing is a rounding issue and is mostly fixed but also doesnt rly matter

The not spawning item bug is so ??? Tho

[analog flicker]

I'm assuming they just didn't find the obj

[junior latch]

it depends

[lost lynx]

I don't think i have ever seen the no spawning item bug myself

[junior latch]

r2e1 with turbines/cells
R4C3 cell

[outer cradle]

The items not spawning is probably desync.
Iirc we opened a cabinet for a pinged item and it wasn't there

[analog flicker]

Unless this is the case of putting cells into wrong gens

[junior latch]

oh you mean ressources?

thats just a mix of desync of things happening and stuff being moved

[mental escarp]

guys i am having an issue where i want to join my friend but it keeps kicking me out and not let me join him, what can i do to fix it if anyone knows please help

[lost lynx]

#1049599987878723635

Theres a lot of threads about that issue

[gloomy mango]

hello everyone can someone please help me... i have been trying to invite friend since 30 min but it's not working

[lost lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1282208770079985666

https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1282208770079985666

Why did it sent twice

[analog flicker]

Steam friend join / lobby id

[lost lynx]

Make sure to disable VPNs

[analog flicker]

Discord desync be like

[lost lynx]

Reset routers

Change hosts

[lost lynx]

This most importantly

And also make sure

Everyone has a legit copy of the game

[analog flicker]

[outer cradle]

As I said earlier, it's a shame that this game's been neglected. Had a chance to crack an untapped market if they kept going.

Thanks for the replies, y'all

[lost lynx]

You would be surprised

[analog flicker]

I know I'm just being sarcastic

[lost lynx]

How many people have came and said: "we cant join our Friends/lobbies"

And turns out the pirated the game

[analog flicker]

Gtfo requires a degree of commitment otherwise I wouldn't recommend dropping 40$

[real monolith]

This shit might as well be a job

[analog flicker]

Imean. Most of us are likely over 1k hours at this point.

Even though 1k is on the lower side.

[lost lynx]

😔

[analog flicker]

When are you breaking your sober of gtfo streak

[junior latch]

Most people dont handle this games difficulty/accessability well

most players rly wont encounter game breaking bugs on any regular basis

[lost lynx]

Never

Fuck this game

[pine root]

Items not spawning……

r4c3 and r2e1 what other level has the issue consistently

guns not reloading. Funnily enough the correct guns don’t have this issue

The bugs literally aren’t that bad anymore

The big carry item issue hasn’t been an issue for a while

[analog flicker]

at best. I just encounter the big item carry ~~ qol mod ~~ users but yeah no issues.

[pine root]

Reloading specifically not getting one extra bullet is annoying but literally doesn’t matter

[analog flicker]

Shotgun still does it too right?

[pine root]

depending on the shell you reload on I think

[analog flicker]

Ye

I haven't used it in awhile

Been using HAR as of late.

[pine root]

that isn’t even the most game breaking list of bugs in the game

Like shooter bug is the worst

imo

[analog flicker]

[rose nova]

happens when u reload in one i believe- like always always

[analog flicker]

?

Shotgun reloading 7 instead of 8

[rose nova]

like when u got one shell left and u reload u will always get 7

that's what i mean

[analog flicker]

You only said one so yeah I thought so

[rose nova]

well don't "?" me >:[ /lh

[analog flicker]

???but when is chair gonna carry pubs again???

[rose nova]

neverssss

[low shell]

hugging pubs

[magic escarp]

hange would carry me

with one arm

[analog flicker]

[Bot]HangeZoe would hardcarry

[wicked solstice]

Yeah they need the other arm to shoot

[magic escarp]

Indeed

[analog flicker]

One hand Monique. The other hand a scattergun

[wicked solstice]

monique is also dual wielding scatters

[analog flicker]

[magic escarp]

Sounds like an epic sight

[low shell]

deputy build with scattergun

[sharp owl]

Gtfo is getting an update….
In 18 years….

[hasty bobcat]

no

[mystic moss]

dow flops so hard that they make gtfo 2 to save them from bankruptcy

[real monolith]

Both games will be mid

[spare pike]

GTFO 2 BUT ITS FOG

[silver spade]

I PRAY DoW FLOPS!

[sharp owl]

Most sane gtfo players

[latent palm]

oh you dont need to

the episodes play themselves

[lost lynx]

🤨

gay

[analog flicker]

🤨

[hasty bobcat]

gay

🤨

[ivory pier]

the reload can be game ending

you just played this shit so much you've accepted the bug and are actively checking after every reload how much bullets you got

if they fix it, it would be a very ok thing to just not look at it and assume you are at your max and then count the shots

if you do this now your final shot wont shoot and this can get you killed

this game has quite a lot of common things that are messed up enough to ruin a run

but exactly because they are common, you've gotten used to them and have ways to actively fight against them

[high orchid]

honestly forgetting to reload is more game ending than getting 1 less shot reloaded

[ivory pier]

??

but forgetting to reload has nothing to do with bugs

[high orchid]

it doesn't but it really isn't that bad

[ivory pier]

because you are not relying on the game working correctly

if you do rely on the game working correctly, which should be fine to do, it can be very bad

[pine root]

But if you care that much about

Full consistent playing

why are you not running

Sawd off hel shotty hel rev scatter hel gun hel rifle bc

like the best guns in the game

Don’t even deal with it

[ivory pier]

why are you saying these things

none of this is bugs

[high orchid]

you don't deal with the reload bug on those guns

[pine root]

The best guns in the game you don’t deal with it

Like idk

[ivory pier]

thats just "you just played this shit so much you've accepted the bug"

[high orchid]

mods

you want to fix something then download the mod that does exactly that

[pine root]

Shotgun is the worst offender for the bug right now

[high orchid]

^

[pine root]

Everything else doesn’t matter

Ar mg one bullet is the least of anyone’s issues

[ivory pier]

ok so what if someone brings shotgun

??

[pine root]

and they reload on one

[high orchid]

dmr could be iffy when playing solo but even then it has a good reload

[pine root]

To get 7 in mag

unfortunate

[ivory pier]

it doesnt stop being an issue thats the games fault entirely

[pine root]

So sad

[wraith marsh]

so were assuming the player is counting the bullets they shoot in a mag but dont notice the reload bug?

[pine root]

Yeah but it is literally not the biggest deal in the world

[ivory pier]

if you are counting them the whole point is not to check

???????

[pine root]

it isn’t game breaking

[wraith marsh]

nobody is saying the bug isnt bad or isnt a bug but calling it game ending is crazy

[pine root]

By any means

[ivory pier]

it can be game ending

and thats not crazy thats simply true

???

[pine root]

The vibration in my ass can be game ending

[ivory pier]

if you die to the one hit you take because of the 1 missing shot

[pine root]

yet

[wraith marsh]

fuck

I forgot im not supposed to respond to wesley

mb team

[pine root]

LOL

[high orchid]

lmao

[ivory pier]

bruh

[wraith marsh]

bye guys

[ivory pier]

u guys should join the dev team

this bug doesnt matter fr

why fix anything

just use a mod

[pine root]

it isn’t a game ending bug

[high orchid]

^

[ivory pier]

in some situations it can be

just like liquid bug also can be

[pine root]

R7e1 scout bombing

Is more game ending than reload bug

[high orchid]

liquid bug is more of a game ending bug than reload bug

[ivory pier]

just like large enemies clipping through doors can be

all common things

[pine root]

large enemies clipping through doors I give you

But literally

it isn’t the same as reload bug

[ivory pier]

because you check your ammo

[pine root]

No I use good guns

LOL

[ivory pier]

ok

discredit a bug because it doesnt apply to meta weapons

good point

[high orchid]

you're also forgetting you typically have 3 other people with you

[ivory pier]

im not forgetting

i said it can end the run

im not saying it ends every run

or a lot of runs

or anything like that

[high orchid]

it's just as likely to end a run as making mistakes

[ivory pier]

ok but

its a bug

you made no mistake

so that's a problem

[high orchid]

then kite

[pine root]

If your in a place where one shot is the game ending thing

You didn’t play well ngl

[ivory pier]

dude

[pine root]

But second off

Make the argument that because it is a bug it should be fixed not it is game ending or can be game ending

[ivory pier]

you can add to it that it can be game ending

its fine

its not a lie

you guys need to understand that this game has long levels

[pine root]

LOL

[ivory pier]

imagine some team dies to one of these bugs

after an hour or something

[pine root]

I know I advocate for shorter levels and more checkpoints

LOL

[high orchid]

again,

If your in a place where one shot is the game ending thing
You didn’t play well ngl

[ivory pier]

or its a level they actually struggle with

it kinda matters

it matters more than a bug that can't have this effect

[pine root]

Scout bombing

Bigger deal or less of a deal

shooter bug bigger deal or less of a deal

[ivory pier]

clearly less because it wont end your game?

[pine root]

A bug that rewards players for keeping their game open and not switching weapons

[ivory pier]

it can ruin the experience

but will not end the experience

[pine root]

same things honestly

[ivory pier]

?

[pine root]

Chill was right.

[ivory pier]

if you continue the run you have a lesser experience for the rest of the run

but anything before is still just normal

if u die because of a bug, you start over the whole thing

[high orchid]

same as if you die from not being good

[ivory pier]

???

why is being able to die normally justification for being able to die to a bug

can you stop talking

[hasty bobcat]

my r7e1...

[hasty bobcat]

yeah sorry that c scout decided to scream in my ear just because game is good

[burnt flume]

if having 7 shotgun shots in mag instead of 8 ruins your run somehow then all i can really suggest is you're playing badly, in so many circumstances it will not matter one bit and you can rescue it

[pine root]

no but goat that isn’t the point

[ivory pier]

no goat

[burnt flume]

more likely for me to get clocked as a woman than it is to lose a run to reload bug

wait am i missing something

[pine root]

LOL

[hasty bobcat]

damn

[ivory pier]

the point is that it should be ok to rely on having 8

[burnt flume]

ya should be

[ivory pier]

yes

[burnt flume]

conditioned against it now, which proves the point i guess

[ivory pier]

so if you relied on it having 8 and died because of that

[hasty bobcat]

when do u get 7 shells again

[ivory pier]

then your reason can be scrapped

[hasty bobcat]

if u reload on one?

[ivory pier]

but like i said

[burnt flume]

or i try keep track of whether i reload on 1

[ivory pier]

you know theres a bug

so you dont rely on it having 8

[hasty bobcat]

chat is there instances where u shoot entire mag and leave one shell in there

[ivory pier]

which can still matter but you can use your bad excuse for these cases

[burnt flume]

this is boring, can someone fuck up high cal reload again

[hasty bobcat]

it's either empty or u reload earlier than one

[ivory pier]

talking about how to once again bypass the bug

is just not the point thats being made

[hasty bobcat]

don't shoot

:3

[rose nova]

no ones dying on 7 shotgun shells but its annoying

thats the bottom line

[gusty burrow]

Saying something can be run ending is not a good metric for saying a bug is bad. Everything can be run ending if you contrive a scenario where it is the exact difference that causes the run to end. Rolling different markers on a level can be run ending. Rolling resources in different boxes can be run ending.

[hasty bobcat]

ur melee will never get reload bugged

[ivory pier]

"no one" is a crazy thing to say when you have no vision on how many games have been played

[rose nova]

erm key in H run ending cuz 5 more strikers

[gusty burrow]

And yet we're perfectly happy with those 'run ending' things.

[burnt flume]

oh god not the resource spawns in solo speeds

[rose nova]

"no one" that actually notices the bug

[hasty bobcat]

that upstairs key....

[rose nova]

cuz people take so long to notice

[gusty burrow]

I am 100% sure that resources being in different boxes has ended more runs than reload bug.

[rose nova]

box backwards has ended runs way more

cuz resources behind box

[burnt flume]

i have made sure of this in my a1 crusades

[hasty bobcat]

me when i find 5 meds and 5 tools w 0/0 smh

[gusty burrow]

Please use a better metric than "can end a run" to say something is bad.

[ivory pier]

???

[hasty bobcat]

here, have a medi :3

[ivory pier]

no i will not

i will just say that it is bad for that reason

and that's completely fine

[burnt flume]

scan rng is run ending

[hasty bobcat]

chat scan is downstairs

reset

[rose nova]

its bad but dont say its run ending as an example

thats just funky

[pine root]

Why can’t we say that 10cc is lazy and Realod is very easy to fix

[gusty burrow]

My dog bumping my leg is run ending, we should patch that out too.

[ivory pier]

only thing that was said is that it can end the run

which is not a lie

so maybe you can just accept the slight bit of extra words added to it

[pine root]

This is what I said

[hasty bobcat]

did it end ur run and ur sad now

[ivory pier]

why u doing the same thing as that other guy

[hasty bobcat]

I'm so out of touch ngl

[ivory pier]

and using non-bugs

what

[rose nova]

the extra words just sound a bit exagerated

[burnt flume]

does anyone know what they're fighting for

[ivory pier]

a bug that can end the run sucks

[gusty burrow]

It is not, it is also a trash metric that means almost nothing because you can say it about everything including things we don't even describe as bugs and even say are good parts of the game.

[ivory pier]

this one

and any other ones

its not a trash metric

[hasty bobcat]

chances of it actually ending ur run is too little to care ngl

[rose nova]

saying it ends runs is by all means technically not 'wrong' but its clearly an overexaggeration of what having 7 bullets out of 8 can do

[ivory pier]

its a trash metric if you're stupid and not using it correctly

its just words?

[rose nova]

words ended my run patch them

[ivory pier]

if you understand them correctly you can use them correctly?

its only an overexaggeration if you can't read

[hasty bobcat]

i cant

[gusty burrow]

Scan RNG can end runs. Does that mean it is bad? Should we remove scan RNG?

[ivory pier]

that's not a bug

[rose nova]

i can read and a lot of bugs can end runs- in fact every single bug can end runs in the right situation probably

so it is a... not good metric

to say how bad a bug is

or how necessary is it to fix

[hasty bobcat]

chat why are we yapping over a shotgun shell

[rose nova]

void bug has for sure ended runs and its on a whole nother league

[ivory pier]

ok and?

[gusty burrow]

Saying something can end a run does not in any way say anything useful about how impactful it actually is.

[ivory pier]

why does this mean you shouldn't say it anymore

its still ok to mention

[ivory pier]

thats why you say more than that when needed

but you dont need to say nothing

its ok to say it

[rose nova]

u seem very eager to defend it idk

[hasty bobcat]

here

[high orchid]

thing is, reload bug is such a minor thing, and there exists a mod that fixes it so if it's that much of an issue you can fix it yourself easily

[ivory pier]

if u guys were more persistent and less accepting of bugs

maybe more would be fixed

[hasty bobcat]

have 9 more shells

[rose nova]

we r not accepting it we are saying it doesnt end runs like others

[ivory pier]

i didnt say that either

[hasty bobcat]

hii tuho

[tall hawk]

in your mag? I don't think so

[ivory pier]

i said it can

[rose nova]

u said cuz u earlier u said it was like enemies clipping through the door

i can scroll upwards

[ivory pier]

just learn what "can" means

[hasty bobcat]

how much do u get per refill

[rose nova]

here

[tall hawk]

hell if I know

[ivory pier]

it also has the word "can" again

[hasty bobcat]

same

[tall hawk]

I use ammo I get ammo

[rose nova]

it is also a direct comparison

at least by how it reads

[ivory pier]

yes

a comparison between x "can" and y and z also "can"

which is a correct comparison

[rose nova]

ur rlly pulling thin this argument

i got better things to do

[ivory pier]

ur making an argument out of nothing

[hasty bobcat]

it's just funny at this point ngl

[ivory pier]

just accept the word can 🙏

[hasty bobcat]

chat can we just quick swap to main if u get reload bug

oh wait

ur dmr will have 11 bullets.....

[high orchid]

but wait, dmr has a pretty quick reload cancel

[hasty bobcat]

I'm saying that u have a 7 shell shotty and 11 bullet dmr now

instead of 8 and 13

12*

which is funny

[burnt flume]

funny story that

when they fixed DMR

it bugged shotgun

[hasty bobcat]

well shotty too

same as dmr pmuch

[hasty bobcat]

but it's bugged now

:(

[mystic moss]

all the more reason to switch off dmr

[burnt flume]

and this is why you don't trust patch notes

[ivory pier]

its kinda crazy that they legit made datablock changes to fix it for a weapon specifically

[gusty burrow]

Let me help ya out:

Reload bug is annoying but not particularly game breaking. However, it is also very easy to fix and should have been fixed by the devs ages ago.
✅ Good argument, is realistic about the impact of the bug, understands that part of bug fixing is weighing both the impact of the bug and also how easy it is to fix.

Reload bug can be game ending.
❌ Bad argument, doesn't make any useful claims about the impact of the bug.

[burnt flume]

can't remember the last time i saw dmr ammo bug but i don't run the gun much anymore

[hasty bobcat]

i will not accept dtr

[ivory pier]

instead of just getting a dev to actually fix it

[hasty bobcat]

it still happens but i have a fix rn so

[ivory pier]

yeh but tru

your response would be

"why is it game ending"

and then you will have the very correct information

so there really is nothing wrong with it

you cant use "can" in your short explanation to then say its bad

its bad because its a short explanation

jeepers

[hasty bobcat]

💀

[ivory pier]

whenever you assume that the other person can read correctly

it will always be better to have more information

anything that's correct

is completely fine to be added

[gusty burrow]

I don't actually understand what point you're trying to make now

What am I saying "why is it game ending" in response to?

[ivory pier]

i just said the bug can be game ending

and then people had an issue with that

because for them "can" doesn't apply if its not enough times

but thats not what can means unfortunately for them

[hasty bobcat]

i mean one in like a thousand runs yeah

[gusty burrow]

...because they correctly understood that it is a poor metric for describing the impact of a bug...?

[ivory pier]

wtf does it matter if its a poor metric

use it as a poor metric then

why would that mean you can't say it

[gusty burrow]

You can say it, you clearly did say it

And then people took issue with it because it was a poor metric

[ivory pier]

not rly

they mostly made very bad comparisons such as comparing it to non bugs

which seems your reasoning is incorrect

because you can not say they see it as a way to rate a bug

if they compare it to something thats not a bug

if you read previous convo you will find out that the only reason i said this was because some guy mentioned it as game ending

maybe he is that rare case where this happened

who are you to discredit it

[gusty burrow]

If your metric for describing a bug as bad can also be applied to a bunch of non-bugs in order to say that they are bad then that is something that makes it a poor metric.

[ivory pier]

thats the point

the point isnt being a metric

[hasty bobcat]

if u die to a reload bug that's a skill issue 😔

[ivory pier]

no its a game issue

but you would be way less likely to have it occur if you have more skill

[hasty bobcat]

yea u can prevent it in like 20 diff ways so

[gusty burrow]

Then what is the point of saying that it is game ending?
(If the point is not to attempt to make a claim about the impact of the bug?)

[ivory pier]

the point is that the guy said he struggling with levels for these reasons

so yes its pretty relevant

if he isnt lying

?

[hasty bobcat]

does he know that

he has 2 weapons

or is it forbidden idk

[ivory pier]

idk the bug is different in different cases

you can rely on having full mag

and then the 2 weapons argument does not matter

[hasty bobcat]

yea but if ur in danger u quick swap anyway

since u usually have more than one enemy

even if it's one u can shove

like the only thingy I'd see where u could die is to a giant

and not having one shell to stagger it

[ivory pier]

i can list many more

[hasty bobcat]

but like tf u doing in front of a giant with almost empty mag

that's more about like decision making

[ivory pier]

a charger can kill you if you're infected

a small can kill you if you've already taken damage

[hasty bobcat]

u can shove quick swap

[hasty bobcat]

same

[ivory pier]

nope

there can be 2 smalls

?

now what?

[hasty bobcat]

u have ur main

[ivory pier]

their split up

ur main is empty

now what?

[hasty bobcat]

why is it empty

[ivory pier]

because you used it

doesnt matter

[hasty bobcat]

it's ur problem then

[ivory pier]

you should have your extra shot

its the games problem

but you could prevent it

[hasty bobcat]

if u rely on full mag

why are u fighting two

[ivory pier]

because there are 2

[hasty bobcat]

same logic if reload bug didn't exist

u kill 8

1 left and he licks u

now what

[ivory pier]

yes but then its not a bug !!!!

so not the same

jeepers

[hasty bobcat]

that's skill issue in both cases ngl

[abstract olive]

we should blame the game because the game is bad

fuck this game

[hasty bobcat]

based

[abstract olive]

waku waku

[ivory pier]

if some guy walks in here and blames the game for this bug

yes

[abstract olive]

I am watashi

[ivory pier]

i dont see why you would pretend that its not possible to be game ending

or why you'd have to be the elitist to tell him to just be better

[hasty bobcat]

have u ever had it

[abstract olive]

mm elitism is cool tho

[hasty bobcat]

did it end ur game

[ivory pier]

bro wants me to remember 7k hours of gameplay

[abstract olive]

especially for a dead game

[hasty bobcat]

u would remember prolly if u pull up that convo

[ivory pier]

i know i get fucked a lot in modded rundowns when they decrease my mag size cuz i have less shots than expecting

idk if i ever died in the main game to the bug

[hasty bobcat]

see

[ivory pier]

but im 1 player

im not stupid enough to use that to say its not possible

[hasty bobcat]

yea and u have 7k hours of playtime

which is like 30 pub players

[raw shard]

Reload bug is cringe and definitely has the possibility of causing some health loss which in some cases can cause a down

I agree with Wesley

[ivory pier]

W

[hasty bobcat]

the problem is

[gusty burrow]

The bigger point to me is just that it is annoying and easy to fix

Even if it magically couldn't end a run, it should still be fixed

[raw shard]

It is a very easy fix, I have no idea how the devs created the issue for shotgun out of nowhere lmao

[analog flicker]

[mystic moss]

was it not tied to the shotgun ammo buff

[raw shard]

Oh right they buffed the mag size didn't they

yea

[gusty burrow]

Changed bullet cost

[raw shard]

I don't understand how it gets through (definitely real) testing

[mystic moss]

official 10cc bug patch coming soon

[raw shard]

I can't wait !!!

[mystic moss]

what's on your wishlist

[raw shard]

Maybe they'll set sniper mag size to 1

[hasty bobcat]

i just lost an hour of sleep to this

[hasty bobcat]

chat cover me while i reload

[gusty burrow]

Probably just gets slapped in with the existing bug ticket that was mistakenly closed when they 'fixed' DMR

[raw shard]

I love my CostOfBullet: 0.12412415612

then they wonder why it has issues

[high orchid]

change the precision of sniper down to 1.01

[hasty bobcat]

okay I've lost enough brain cells i go sleep

[abstract olive]

good night, sky (partial mute)

[ivory pier]

good night, sky (partial mute)

[hasty bobcat]

tq _mommymilker69

[analog flicker]

go to bed you goober

[hasty bobcat]

tq, Wesley

tq, Solace - DCLXVI

[analog flicker]

[mystic moss]

aren't you suppose to be lowkey

[ivory pier]

you didnt use the fancy font

[hasty bobcat]

right

[abstract olive]

what are you talking about Vozy

do i know you

[hasty bobcat]

if chaos would be here

he'd say 'this is simon'

[abstract olive]

toast said she loved my water bottle music

[hasty bobcat]

nice

[abstract olive]

im omw to become an artist

[hasty bobcat]

grats

[ivory pier]

chaos is lost in E2

when will he come home..

[mystic moss]

sorry he's too busy slow stealthing

[hasty bobcat]

chat respawn rooms are the hardest part trust trust

[abstract olive]

how can one even lose the very first part if they have provision

[mellow hedge]

Someone tell him

[abstract olive]

just scattergun everything tbh

[hasty bobcat]

ik

[hasty bobcat]

tank eats like 20 years if ure not using door

[ivory pier]

double mom

need to reload the scatter

[hasty bobcat]

that's just mean

[abstract olive]

idk

[mellow hedge]

I’ve only done one run and I got scout double mom in a of cell zone

[hasty bobcat]

thing is scatter is unavailable

[ivory pier]

[hasty bobcat]

A?

[mellow hedge]

Area A

[hasty bobcat]

this is sad

[mystic moss]

"hi guys i'm gonna sleep"

[hasty bobcat]

it should be like only them tho

[mystic moss]

"hey guys gonna head off now"

[hasty bobcat]

😔

[mellow hedge]

Unfortunately not

[hasty bobcat]

aw

[ivory pier]

keep sky here

[hasty bobcat]

i swear there is like

[ivory pier]

what is the next controversial thing i can say

[hasty bobcat]

a cap how much stuff can be in one room

[mellow hedge]

Yeah there is

But scout double mom is possible

[hasty bobcat]

sad

[mystic moss]

are you the gamer that actually goes to bed when you say you're "heading off"

[hasty bobcat]

scouts take the most space i think

[mystic moss]

or do you just lie in bed for another 3 hours on your phone

[mellow hedge]

^

[hasty bobcat]

😔

it's been 2 hours already I'm dying

[burnt flume]

check it every 15 or so minutes until I've had enougj

[mystic moss]

smh chronic screen addicts

[ivory pier]

zoomers..

[mystic moss]

"haha time to take a break from big computer"

"time to use small computer now"

[burnt flume]

didn't used to be this bad then i got addicted to someone (no vozy, you're not the lucky lady I'm addicted to)

[abstract olive]

a phone isnt a small computer

are you fucking stupid

[ivory pier]

ew

[hasty bobcat]

a shone isn't a pmall computer

[mystic moss]

i'm glad i'm not the object of your obsession

i'd be miserable

[abstract olive]

oh damn nvm i just googled it

phone is a computer

[mystic moss]

aren't you studying computer engineering or something

[burnt flume]

phone seems big when you try put it in the pocket of women's jeans

[analog flicker]

[burnt flume]

fits half a phone

[abstract olive]

You cheated ~

[hasty bobcat]

💀