gtfo-chat

[sharp owl]

But

[verbal trout]

4-5 is fone wdym

We just suck

[sharp owl]

Probably

[verbal trout]

We just need to shoot better but we’re missing

Skip the weakpoints we arenmt even hitting the big points

[sharp owl]

I dont miss

[fringe garden]

i think r5d2 isn't very good but other reactors in r4-5 are good

[sharp owl]

I tactically fuck up

[verbal trout]

I tactically sparta kick you into 25 charger mothers

[sharp owl]

Id win

Alao

When CAN you play fe2

[verbal trout]

Don’t think I can play anytime soon I have a lot of work to take care off this week

Maybe next week

[sharp owl]

Weekend?

[hasty bobcat]

not 6 u mean

[verbal trout]

At most I’m exploring e1 duo trials with star this weekend with my little time

[hasty bobcat]

or wait

[sharp owl]

Sky are you insane

[hasty bobcat]

i thought we're talking about r4e waves

ikr

[sharp owl]

Thats a redundant question

[verbal trout]

Busy

[sharp owl]

👍

[hasty bobcat]

bussy

sorry

[sharp owl]

Bussy

[verbal trout]

[mellow hedge]

r5d2 is pretty good imo

[fringe garden]

i liked it until i lost 3 attempts in a row to the softlock tile

it's probably good i just have internalised a dislike for it ever since

[sharp owl]

I dont like r5d2

Because

Its r5

Only fun level would be iirc C2

[daring ginkgo]

Mini boss on reactor wave

[fringe garden]

scattergun

[verbal trout]

Do you like r7e1

[sharp owl]

Havent done it yet

[verbal trout]

Wtf

Ok we doing it next week

[sharp owl]

I cleared D2 with ccon by accident so I cleared the clear from my file

But it still says i have it cleared but I can’t access e1

So first i need to do d2

[verbal trout]

Just solo d2

You a pro you said

Solo

[sharp owl]

Mhm true solo d2

Glitchless

Though doing true solo with door bug would be good stealth training

Eh i have e2

[daring ginkgo]

Iirc hinoki and tnenpi did r5d2 solo legit

Without giant kiting, bug abuse itc

[sharp owl]

I have 320 hours

I am a mostly solo player but

[daring ginkgo]

I watched some videos of this lvl on yt, when i was hardstuck there xd

[sharp owl]

Quad helauto turret

Trust

[daring ginkgo]

I saw solo clears and was like no way they did it without some cheesy tactics

[sharp owl]

Im starting to kill scouts in e2 with sniper turret

Ima try doing a stealth kill with it

[sharp owl]

Cool now do e2 glitchless

Would stealth kills be classified as cheese?

[daring ginkgo]

I dont know this lvl yet, i am still stuck on r6c3,althought i am really close to finishing it legit

[sharp owl]

I do it but I could probably start grinding without doibg it

[sharp owl]

PE prolly

?

[daring ginkgo]

Ofc

I am doing pe only

Main only is piss easy almost on all lvls with optional obj so far

[sharp owl]

C3 pe doesnt seem that hard but then agaib

I haven’t played it much

[daring ginkgo]

It is not hard

[fringe garden]

they did need massive supply efficiency boosters but yeah

[daring ginkgo]

But tanks + bots is bad combo

[sharp owl]

Have you tried melee baiting

[daring ginkgo]

I think hinoki did it boosterless 🤔

[sharp owl]

You could always just perma stall the wave with enough c-foam

[fringe garden]

he did? ill check

[sharp owl]

Or i can help :)

[verbal trout]

Can you even solo e2 without boosters?

[daring ginkgo]

Nah, i almost finished this yesterday, died on extraction scan

[sharp owl]

No.

Deffo no

[fringe garden]

no yeah you're right he didn't use booster

[sharp owl]

There is a check point right

Or am i misremembering

[verbal trout]

If you had infinite time maybe

[daring ginkgo]

Checkpoint ruining tank error

[sharp owl]

Ah

[daring ginkgo]

So i doing this lvl in other order

[sharp owl]

Even then, reactor.

Glitchless true solo

Probably not possible without boosters

They might even need a checkpoint or two to make it possible

We need TAS for gtfo

[daring ginkgo]

Main->checkpoint->ov->sec-> extraction

[verbal trout]

Checkpoints on e2 wouldn’t really change much

[sharp owl]

If only you could do sec before hand

Oh well

[sharp owl]

Faster restarts

Less tedious

It would be more like

A helping hand

That the same time, at that point you can cheese reactor codes

[verbal trout]

You would probably die to the reactor waves solo if you couldn’t cheese

[sharp owl]

Probably

[verbal trout]

And cheesing can be many things so I’m not gonna comment on that

And if you go past the reactor

A class 6 that you have to shoot for 15 min

Where ammo

[mossy ocean]

simply melee, no ammo required

[verbal trout]

My man is gonna melee a p mother

[mossy ocean]

ez

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, well, at least this strat is much better, than intended way to beat lvl with bots

With this strat i have to fight 3 spawned tanks from ov, last one in the very end of lvl

With intended way i got 4th tank when i looked for last cell, so it is impossible for me

Those tank spawn timers become much shorter with every new tank

Idk why devs changed it, i watched OG r6c3, there was first tank after 10 mins of finishing ov scan, second spawned after another 13:30, more than enough time, wiki says same thing

But in alt second tank spawns after approximately another 8 minutes, third after 5-6 minutes

[gusty burrow]

idk what is up with your game

but those times for wiki are up to date with the alt version

[daring ginkgo]

It is 100% bullshit

[latent palm]

Woah

Language

[gusty burrow]

only thing potentially missing is extraction tank, which I have heard conflicting stuff about and which I can't be bothered verifying

[latent palm]

Also haiiii truuu

[gusty burrow]

hai

[latent palm]

R7D2 duo when

[daring ginkgo]

Even this wiki point: "door to zone 175 opens at 15:00"

[gusty burrow]

Did you checkpoint? ik checkpoints mess with this majorly

[daring ginkgo]

It activates on 14:00

[gusty burrow]

I have solo'ed it now

[gusty burrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ I only fixed the overload times

[daring ginkgo]

I tested those tank spawn timers with cconsole, i stayed in ov scan room for like 30-40 minutes and counted, when each new tank spawned

[latent palm]

Oh my!

Thats really pro of you truu!

[daring ginkgo]

Without activating checkpoint

[analog flicker]

What level is being talked about?-

[daring ginkgo]

R6c3

[latent palm]

R6C3

[analog flicker]

Hm

[sharp owl]

You could also try stalling the last waves

[daring ginkgo]

Waves are not a problem, tanks are

[daring ginkgo]

Iirc i even posted times on each new tank spawn there

[sharp owl]

You can put a sniper sentry front of the door you c-foamed and let it wittle down the tank/ wave while you extract

[daring ginkgo]

It is LONG extract

Not possible

[sharp owl]

You have 2 doors you can use

[gusty burrow]

cconsole timescale might have been messed up, it's had some weird stuff with it changing even if you haven't touched it

[sharp owl]

That enough for like atleast 30-40 percent

[daring ginkgo]

Extraction is like 1,5 minutes

[sharp owl]

A c-foam door hold for like what

15-20 seconds

[daring ginkgo]

And what i am supposed to do, when tank rushes in extraction room?

[analog flicker]

pray?

[mossy ocean]

start dancing

[daring ginkgo]

I tried yesterday

[sharp owl]

I dont remember, is there c-foam nades

[gusty burrow]

You loop dat boi and oopsie, who got the highground now

[sharp owl]

In C3

[gusty burrow]

Tank's last mistake was jumping down that ladder

[daring ginkgo]

To loop him i need some cover or hp at least, and since i have 85% infection and extraction room is big and empty...

[sharp owl]

or melee bait and pray that your dumbass bots dont stand behind you

[gusty burrow]

(Extraction is not a good place to fight tank, you definitely want to fight that guy outside)

[daring ginkgo]

For sure

[sharp owl]

What utli do you use

[hasty bobcat]

u kill tank in checkpoint door room no?

[gusty burrow]

Outside extract there's a downstairs area, if you leave bottom doors open there might be a good place there

[hasty bobcat]

so free

[gusty burrow]

Otherwise I think you're going like a full zone back for some good highground with a ladder

[daring ginkgo]

?

[sharp owl]

Your tool

[daring ginkgo]

Mine, bio, 2 sniper sentry

I just need to find a good place fir sniper turrets for last tank

[sharp owl]

I mean… just run one c-foam and you can stall the extract wave…

[hasty bobcat]

bro

chaos ur rights are excluded from this convo

[sharp owl]

No

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[sharp owl]

No

LIKE

you dont need to fight everything

Well

Yes in a warden prot b

But

[hasty bobcat]

chaos

chaos

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, you HAVE to

[hasty bobcat]

they are basically soloing

[sharp owl]

EXTRACTION YOU DONT

[hasty bobcat]

chaos

[sharp owl]

You have 2 doors,

[daring ginkgo]

Tank will eat me in extraction xd

[hasty bobcat]

even if u cfoam

2 doors

[daring ginkgo]

Even with 2 cfoam

[hasty bobcat]

you'll get 50% max

[sharp owl]

RE C-foam

[hasty bobcat]

chaos

[sharp owl]

THE LAST DOOR

[hasty bobcat]

chaos

they are

solo

[daring ginkgo]

Extraction is freaking slow on this lvl

[hasty bobcat]

chaos

[sharp owl]

dude

C-foam, mines sniper bio

Take c-foam

[hasty bobcat]

if u want them to leave scan and cfoam it'll buy like 5% for a full charge

[gusty burrow]

Just permafoam the door that is 30m away and up a staircase

[hasty bobcat]

how much fkin tool u think they have

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[sharp owl]

Iirc i might be tweaking though since bots are fucking useless, they do contribute to the scan

[hasty bobcat]

they follow u chaos

if u go out

from the scan

[sharp owl]

you can stall them

[daring ginkgo]

Btw, activating checkpoint straight up removes tank error

[hasty bobcat]

extract scan is like 100 seconds

[sharp owl]

By forcing one to mine the floor

[hasty bobcat]

???????

why would u do that

if u want them

[gusty burrow]

I've had checkpoints double it (: (checkpoints very well implemented)

[hasty bobcat]

on extract

[sharp owl]

Dude

Ok look

Make a bot mine the floor

Go c-foam

When one follows you

[daring ginkgo]

Lmao

[sharp owl]

Send him back to

The mine to pick it up

[hasty bobcat]

nice u stalled him for 2 seconds

[gusty burrow]

It all makes sense, I was getting your tank error

[sharp owl]

Fuck it im just gonna do this later

[hasty bobcat]

nice u have one person in scan for 4!! seconds

[sharp owl]

Doubters

[daring ginkgo]

i actually cleared r6c3 this way, but it is kinda unfair, so i am redoing it

[sharp owl]

Once im done working ima show how you can do this

[hasty bobcat]

chaos u don't have enough tool

[sharp owl]

Is it the checkpoint reloading that causes the issue or just getting the checkpoint

[daring ginkgo]

Reloading

[hasty bobcat]

u literally need 100% plus a five use then maybe u have enough to stall completely

[gusty burrow]

4 foam launchers...

It is the solution...

[sharp owl]

Bots suck ASSS WITH CFOAM

I HATE THEM

SO MUCH

[daring ginkgo]

Yes

[sharp owl]

THEY SUCKNASS WITH EVERYTHING

[hasty bobcat]

FR

[daring ginkgo]

No

[sharp owl]

Anyways

[daring ginkgo]

They can place turrets nicely

[hasty bobcat]

r7d2 speeds moment

[sharp owl]

Would doing ov then sec make it easier

[hasty bobcat]

that's

[sharp owl]

Though if you fail

[hasty bobcat]

how ur supposed to do it

[sharp owl]

Well yoy need to restart the lvl

Ov, main then sec i mean

like

[hasty bobcat]

u don't get extra bhk

iirc

[sharp owl]

Fucking hell

[hasty bobcat]

u have to do ov

[sharp owl]

Ok lemme simplify it

[hasty bobcat]

after main

which sucks

[daring ginkgo]

I am doing main->main->ov->sec to avoid checkpoint bug

I activate checkpoint before doing ov

[sharp owl]

No i mean

IN THEORY would it be easier

[daring ginkgo]

So if i die i can restart from it without breaking tank error

[hasty bobcat]

this route is so funky

[sharp owl]

Since you dont want to use the checkpoint bug

Ok imagine you are playing the level as intended

Would it be easier than what ur doing

[daring ginkgo]

I tried

A lot of times

[sharp owl]

But you cant first try it

[daring ginkgo]

And no, it is harder 100%

[sharp owl]

Alright

There

Gtfo is checkpoints didnt break the game

[daring ginkgo]

Cause i spend more time after doing ov scan, resulting getting more spawned tanks from ov

[sharp owl]

Have you ever tried melee baiting?

A tank

[daring ginkgo]

What is this

And for what reason

[sharp owl]

You can force a tank to melee attack without getting hit

If you stick to the right side

[daring ginkgo]

Ah

Well

Since bots are stick to me, guess what happens if i do this xd

[sharp owl]

So you can get the tumors, but with bots if they are standing behind you ur fucked

[hasty bobcat]

dark didn't u get better

[sharp owl]

This is why better bots is used

[hasty bobcat]

can't u just do normal ov main sec route

[sharp owl]

They actually move backwards

[hasty bobcat]

better bots equals cheating

smh

[daring ginkgo]

No, i said reasons above

[sharp owl]

I hope you explode

[hasty bobcat]

yea but

just don't use checkpoint??

[sharp owl]

HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET CONFUSED WHEN I SAID OV MAIN SEC

by the nine, im tweaking

[daring ginkgo]

With intended strat my pb was getting last cell and dying immediately

[hasty bobcat]

u said ov sec

[sharp owl]

.

[daring ginkgo]

With my strat i reached extraction after 2w break

[hasty bobcat]

.

[sharp owl]

What are you running as guns

[hasty bobcat]

u blind bitch

:3

[sharp owl]

You only play R4E1

Shush

[daring ginkgo]

Bots are carbine and arbalist, me sawed off and scatter

[hasty bobcat]

tf u mean

[sharp owl]

Not the double shotgun

Ok uh

Hmm

[hasty bobcat]

ur risking getting tk'ed ngl

[sharp owl]

Me or dark

I CANT TELL WHAT YOU MEAN ANYMORE

YOU CONFUSE ME

[hasty bobcat]

chaos go sleep

[sharp owl]

Its 2:34 pm.

No.

Ima try to find a way to c-foam the door

[verbal trout]

at that point just kill the tank

[sharp owl]

You could run helauto to try to stagger tanks

Or give the bots helauto

[verbal trout]

or put 7 mines on the door to instakill it instead of hiting the cfoam

[sharp owl]

You know sky you arent helping

[verbal trout]

[hasty bobcat]

ur confusing ppl

[sharp owl]

AND YOU ARENT

[daring ginkgo]

I think hel pp is bad on this lvl

I need to kill things quickly, not stall

[sharp owl]

Honestly

All i have for you

Hope that a bot thats getting targetted by the tank splits off

Thats it

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, i just need better rng, cause i have strat in mind and places, when tanks will spawn

[hasty bobcat]

dark can't u

[daring ginkgo]

Just this last goddamn tank

[hasty bobcat]

premine tanks

as said earlier

[sharp owl]

Im still going to find a way to c-foam extract door

[daring ginkgo]

Gl xd

[sharp owl]

See if that helps

[daring ginkgo]

No

[sharp owl]

Well if i find it

[daring ginkgo]

Reason is

[sharp owl]

Then

You can use it

[hasty bobcat]

yea?

[daring ginkgo]

Mining is freaking inconsistent vs tanks

[hasty bobcat]

u could try ig

[sharp owl]

The death door

[daring ginkgo]

I tried this a LOT on r4c3, where i was hardstuck vs tank

[sharp owl]

Never plant 8 c-foam mines on a door, worst mistake of my life

[hasty bobcat]

oh, what was the problem??

[daring ginkgo]

Tank died from 8 mines explosion like 1/6 times

[hasty bobcat]

aw

idk tried it once and it worked

[sharp owl]

If extract was only a tank

[hasty bobcat]

dark did u try the door trick?

[sharp owl]

You couldve done this earlier

Alas

Get the fuck out

[daring ginkgo]

?

[sharp owl]

Is truly

[sharp owl]

Watch him say

Use a door

[hasty bobcat]

erm u open a door on tank

and while he's afk

[sharp owl]

See

[hasty bobcat]

u get 2 scatter shots

close it

and repeat

[sharp owl]

Dude

The door breaks down when you open it

[hasty bobcat]

while the door animation is happening he can't lick u/ melee u

[sharp owl]

Or just like

I dunno

[hasty bobcat]

chaos u can do it like 4 times

with a full health door

[sharp owl]

Im pretty sure theres enemies too

Its not only a tank

Also

Very risky

[hasty bobcat]

u kill wave then get a door no

wdym very risky

ppl do it on r4e every day

[sharp owl]

Actually

You can get the bots stuck temporarily

But closing a door on them when they are far behind uou

You have around 30~ to melee bait a tank

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah

[sharp owl]

I think thats enough time tho

[hasty bobcat]

u stay on one side of the door ideally

w bots

cuz u stagger tank so he can't move

if u stagger him into the door that's sad F for ur bots smh

[sharp owl]

Is it just strikers shooters giants and like a hybrid or two i dont remember

[hasty bobcat]

think they memorised waves at this point ngl

[daring ginkgo]

Strikers, shooters, maybe 1 hybrid, it is random

No giants after 30 min timer

[sharp owl]

Strange how the wiki doesn’t mention an extract tank

[mellow hedge]

what level?

[sharp owl]

R6C3

[hasty bobcat]

r6c3

[mellow hedge]

fair

[hasty bobcat]

frosty can u teach them the door trick

to solo tanks

they don't trust me

[mellow hedge]

shits easy

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[sharp owl]

MELEE BAITING IS EASY TOO

[mellow hedge]

if a tanks on a door it will turn around

[mellow hedge]

no??????

not with a tank

[hasty bobcat]

:3

[sharp owl]

it’s extremely easy with a tank

[mellow hedge]

false

[hasty bobcat]

false

[sharp owl]

Sky get out

[daring ginkgo]

Oh, that is a trick, they hitting door with tumors xd

[mellow hedge]

tank on door is easier and safer

[hasty bobcat]

my chat doesn't trust me..

[daring ginkgo]

I dont understand trick from your words xd

[sharp owl]

Ok wait dark are you losing to the 10 minute tank spawning during extract or just a third tank spawning

[daring ginkgo]

But when frosty said, that tank turn aroundon doors it started to make sense

[hasty bobcat]

i'm sorry my english is bad 😔

[sharp owl]

Sky bad explain

gg

[hasty bobcat]

ikr

[daring ginkgo]

Бывает

[sharp owl]

Go back to class

[hasty bobcat]

не понял

[sharp owl]

Learn

[daring ginkgo]

🤣

[hasty bobcat]

pFFTHAHAH

actual comedy

i keep bumping into russians by accident

so funny

[sharp owl]

Anyways

[sharp owl]

Hey sky i dare you to try solo e2

[limber notch]

OOB skip

[hasty bobcat]

I've got to class 6 what do u want from me

[mellow hedge]

you boostering?

[sharp owl]

Doing the alarm boosterless is just

no

[mellow hedge]

what boosters?

[sharp owl]

2 bio and supp

[hasty bobcat]

chaos u haven't tried it once

:3

[sharp owl]

One muted bio, bold sup and agg bio

[mellow hedge]

its hard with 2 people

[hasty bobcat]

did u get duo btw

ye ik

[mellow hedge]

na died on second class 6 cause shitty scan rng

[hasty bobcat]

awww

that's as far as i got in my duo

scans really matter there

[sharp owl]

How can duo do worse than solo, actually dont answer rhat

[mellow hedge]

second class 6 is the hardest part if you are tpless

[sharp owl]

Ohh second one

[mellow hedge]

You have not gotten past second class 6 buddy

[sharp owl]

Mb mb

[limber notch]

U mean no alarm cancel?

[sharp owl]

I read it wrong lmfaoo

[limber notch]

Or what

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[mellow hedge]

lmao

[limber notch]

Fair enough

[hasty bobcat]

what's pb for solo?

or no one really kept track

[mellow hedge]

no one has gotten past first class 6

[sharp owl]

Im guessing everyons pb is either alarm door or like the third scan

[hasty bobcat]

i see

[mellow hedge]

I've done one run and got to class 6 zone 🤷‍♂️

[sharp owl]

Why does my room smell like rot

[hasty bobcat]

take a shower idk

[sharp owl]

Dealing with that many rooms is just

[sharp owl]

I just did

I hate you

[mellow hedge]

the stealth zones?

they're are easy compared to everything else

[sharp owl]

Actually, got any tips for a loadout

[limber notch]

What if shadow scout spawn cap w/ shadows -> kite?

Tedious but sounds kinda doable maybe

Respawn rooms might be a problem, idk

[sharp owl]

Im running pdw (that’s temporary) and hel rifle with sniper sentry and well hammer

[mellow hedge]

if ur actually trying to beat the whole thing you run hel rifle and like hel shotty or sawed off

[sharp owl]

So same thing pablo said alright

Or was it pablo

I dont remember

[limber notch]

Although ig it depends on if spawn capping is in the spirit of the challenge

[sharp owl]

I still dont get how i get so far with bad rng and fucj it up with good rng

[mellow hedge]

they are

[hasty bobcat]

they are

[sharp owl]

Glitchless no cheese

[hasty bobcat]

u can never kite there ngl

and it has little to no point

[sharp owl]

I dont remember who but

Someone recommended kiting the class 6

…

[limber notch]

Bruh

[verbal trout]

had to be you

[mellow hedge]

you cant kite it

[sharp owl]

Im just gonna leave you guys to say things

[sharp owl]

IT WASNT

I NEVER KITE

[mellow hedge]

you cant solo e2 i hate to say it

[verbal trout]

lies and deceit

[sharp owl]

I mean beating e2 was never really on the table

since A, i dont bring the mwp with me since i need to time and
B, reactor.

[daring ginkgo]

Noo, last lvl have reactor

[sharp owl]

Best and I mean best case, with perfect rng, perfect gameplay, perfect timing

You can get to the ending

Without the mwp

[limber notch]

I think if you alarm cancel then it's probably barely possible. With really rng and some c-mine stacking probably

Although I'm honestly not sure how reactor should go

[hasty bobcat]

u get mwp with alarm cancel

[sharp owl]

I hate reactors but not as much as r5

[sharp owl]

Ok someone needs to explain what an alarm cancel is

[mellow hedge]

yeah prob

but theoretically

[limber notch]

You start an alarm mid-reactor and then go into one of the scans that teleport you

[mellow hedge]

how you trying to solo e2 and you dont know

[limber notch]

If I'm not wrong

[sharp owl]

Because

[limber notch]

Correct me someone if I am

[mellow hedge]

first corrupt scan cancels all alarms

you cancel class 6 in 495

[sharp owl]

Huh

[mellow hedge]

you can also cancel nightmare surge

[mellow hedge]

in first code zone

[limber notch]

So yeah, still need to do 1st C6

[sharp owl]

I mean wouldn’t that classify as exploit / cheese

[limber notch]

Is there no standardised notation for alarm classes? 🤔

[mellow hedge]

not really

[limber notch]

Well, otherwise it's like completely impossible

[daring ginkgo]

Chaos tried to do this without any cheese, exploits, bugs etc

[limber notch]

And even tho alarm cancel is an exploit

[sharp owl]

^

[limber notch]

I'd argue it's still within the set of game mechanics

Because it's not a bug

[sharp owl]

worst case, i just start playing seeded

[limber notch]

Or at least from my understanding it isn't

[mellow hedge]

doesnt help

[daring ginkgo]

Mmm, not sure about this from what i see in chat

[limber notch]

Well... Race condition might be considered a bug 🤔

Nvm, it is one

[daring ginkgo]

Like canceling shadow alarm in terminal on r5e1 sounds more legit

[limber notch]

I take that back

[sharp owl]

I dont thing its intended and its probably just gtfo spaghetti code

[limber notch]

Not intended doesn't necessarily mean it's buggy

[daring ginkgo]

Like you put Deactivate alarms commands in terminal

[limber notch]

I could go on a long rant about this topic but TLDR: not all exploits are bugs but every bug can be an exploit

[sharp owl]

Using a deactivate alarm command after starting like 7 alarms wouldn’t really be classified as cheesing or a bug even tho its not intended to be that, but using a glitch to deactivate alarms would be

The thing is,

[limber notch]

Are alarms deactivated due to a glitch?

That's the question I have

[sharp owl]

Since im doing glitchless and cheeseless, would using ccon to give me checkpoint or using seeded break those rules? Its very strange since technically getting a checkpoint doesn’t specify cheating as its just a faster reset and using seeded is just using gtfos own system. Though using checkpoints is more cheating than seeded imo

[limber notch]

If it's the same mechanic that just deactivates all alarms same way uplink completion does, then it's not really a glitch and more of a design oversight

[sharp owl]

It mights just be gtfo spaghetti code like i said

[limber notch]

Would be nice to have the source code at hand

[sharp owl]

Thats under lock and key for a reason though

[limber notch]

If I did smth like that, I'd definitely do it unmodded

Speedrun.com upload and all

[sharp owl]

Im currently only running perfect boosters since im not wasting every single booster i have

Other than that

Completely vanilla

[limber notch]

That's fair

Booster system is stupid

[daring ginkgo]

CHEATER 🔪

[sharp owl]

Gambling in gtfo

[daring ginkgo]

Jk

[fringe garden]

i think perfect boosters seeded is the limit of what is acceptable
checkpoints would just be making it a segmented run

[sharp owl]

MISINPUT MISINPUT CALM DOWN

[hushed kiln]

Whats the lowest gtfo was listed on steam

[sharp owl]

True

That

Its actually really like

I couldn’t agree more actually

[daring ginkgo]

Fasterbotchesee too

[sharp owl]

Worst case scenario. I do a segmented run

[daring ginkgo]

But it becomes so tempting to use it more often that you should, so i disable it xd

[sharp owl]

Fr

Sometimes bot cheesing in solo is just like

Your bots are so stupid you feel like you deserve the win even tho

[limber notch]

https://steamdb.info/app/493520/

[daring ginkgo]

I think it was 50% discount max

[sharp owl]

I just run betterbots and make solo enjoyable

[hasty bobcat]

depends on how much segments

[sharp owl]

Id say…. Everything up to reactor, reactor itself, kraken fight + ending maybe?

[daring ginkgo]

With aimbot*

Playing game in easy mode

[sharp owl]

The aimbot has been removed actually

They still fumble with tanks

[hasty bobcat]

bro u have 2 class 6 to do

[daring ginkgo]

Rly? Just install earlier version i guess xd

[sharp owl]

Currently they are accurate but not aimbot levels

Im p sure ive seen them miss

If not, you might be able to make it a setting

Ill check

[sharp owl]

Eh doable

Segmented would already be an insane thing for solo e2

[hasty bobcat]

one of them is nightmares plus p mom

another one is full shadows

[sharp owl]

Random bullshit go!

[daring ginkgo]

How much harder e2 compared to second hardest lvls (r4e1/r5e1)?

[alpine scaffold]

In solo play I go with Dauda + Biotracker + BetterBots(no aimbot) + zombified, it's still funny to play

Just 1 bot

[sharp owl]

I wouldn’t say by much but r4e1 is second hardest

[sharp owl]

Interesting

[limber notch]

Hot take, E2 isn't as hard as it seems as long as you don't fuck up too much

[sharp owl]

@daring ginkgo i mean r4e1 ISNT second hardest

I mean

[limber notch]

You don't even need tool to complete it

[lost lynx]

20USD?

[sharp owl]

Secondary adds difficulty but i dont think it would classify as too hard of a level

[lost lynx]

i think

[daring ginkgo]

Isnt r4e1 and r5e1 tied to second/third hardest lvls in game?

[lost lynx]

20-25USD

[hushed kiln]

Steam keys have it at 12 eur

[sharp owl]

Id probably say r5e1 is second hardest

[lost lynx]

then get a steam key

[sharp owl]

Ive seen it go to 8-9 euros on third party websites but I wouldn’t recommend it since sometimes the keys aren’t obtained legally

[hushed kiln]

They arent obtained legally at all

But its 10 bucks cheaper

[sharp owl]

Actually no

Some companies

Sell in bulk, keys to websites

At a cheaper price

The company makes a profit while the website sells its for slightly more then what they bought it for

[hushed kiln]

Still pisslow prices

[sharp owl]

It is rare and most websites get keys illegally

[lost lynx]

[hushed kiln]

Not always

[lost lynx]

buy it

[hushed kiln]

But for older games they r

[sharp owl]

I think only the biggest websites have legal keys

Might be wrong

[lost lynx]

never trust third party stores

[sharp owl]

I only buy keys from websites if its a triple A game because they already have enough money and I couldn’t give less than a shit.

Im not paying 80 bucks for call of duty 202683 MW6 dlc 1000+ cp points homelander collab

[sharp owl]

Some are legit, but its rare

[lost lynx]

i would spend 80$ for an anime girl skin in CoD

[sharp owl]

Me too

Anime boobs

Or i can like

I dunno

[daring ginkgo]

🤢

[sharp owl]

Spend more money on roblox

[lost lynx]

roblox?

[sharp owl]

Ive spent like 5k on roblox help me

[lost lynx]

you could have built a NASA PC with that

[sharp owl]

In my defense i have like 7-8k hours on Roblox

[lost lynx]

ah yeah that makes sense

[sharp owl]

I enjoy it

[hasty bobcat]

hello chat

[lost lynx]

fair fair

[sharp owl]

Anyways

[daring ginkgo]

I bought forza horizon 5 for full price, played for 10h, never opened again 🤣

[sharp owl]

Ima commission more gtfo art

[sharp owl]

I bought skyrim, never played it

[lost lynx]

i have like 20 games i havent even opened in my steam library

with a total of 300USD spent

[sharp owl]

Fr

[lost lynx]

😔

[daring ginkgo]

Talk about unnecessary purchases

[sharp owl]

Ngl

[lost lynx]

i see offer
i purchase

[sharp owl]

After play fallout newvagas

I dont feel like playing any skyrim or fallout games

Since they feel the same

[sharp owl]

True mindset

[daring ginkgo]

Bethesda rpg 👌

I am sure starfield feels different, right?

[sharp owl]

Bethesda rpgs when its the same game with a different story

Better than cod tho atleast

Albiet blackops 6 is good

Strange how it has mixed reviews

[daring ginkgo]

Ngl i spend a shit ton of time on skyrim, cause it was my first Bethesda game

[sharp owl]

I get all the call of duties for free because my dad works at microsoft…

Gotra respect hes had the same job for 20 years

[lost lynx]

aint no way

can you make people get banned?

[sharp owl]

Yes

Give me your password

[daring ginkgo]

Ban all players on enemy team

[sharp owl]

He works in sales

Iirc if he works for 2-3 more years he gets a plaque in the microsoft headquarters

Cant imagine doing the same thing for like 20~ years- oh wait i play gtfo

[daring ginkgo]

If he likes a job sure, why not

Or if they pay enough

[sharp owl]

I dont mind getting like half the games to ever exist for free

Even though i still buy them on steam when i dont need to lmao

Anyways

I do wish gtfo gets a sequel

[daring ginkgo]

Go grind e2

[sharp owl]

That certainly would be interesting

[daring ginkgo]

💪

[sharp owl]

Consuming food

I may or may not hve woken up like 3 hours ago

[sharp owl]

If grinding e2 doesnt pan out

Im doing as many levels true solo with the ventilation command

Basically a one health challenge

[limber notch]

Pirate the game cuz poor -> you like the game -> you play a lot -> a couple years later you remember the good ol' times -> buy the game because you wanna pay off your entertainment debt -> never open the game after buying it

[sharp owl]

So trie

True

Technically its not piracy at that point

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[sharp owl]

Is just a loan

[hasty bobcat]

beta test

[limber notch]

It's a demo in a form of a full game lmao

And then you only pay if you enjoyed it

[daring ginkgo]

All games need demo version to see, if your pc can handle it

[sharp owl]

Nah bro its a 100% off discount

[sharp owl]

I cant wait for hl rtx

2 fps gaming

[hushed kiln]

Wym by legit

[hasty bobcat]

r5e and r4e are both in S+ tier by eva

[hushed kiln]

How many hours do you get out off gtfo

Is it atleast 3 digits

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

like 400 usually

[hushed kiln]

If u 100% it?

[fringe garden]

number thrown around is 3-400 but if you do like it and start doing challenge runs (solo/duo) i'd easily double or even triple that number

[hasty bobcat]

yea

[hushed kiln]

Sounds good

[hasty bobcat]

is that vozy

i just saw

i scared them away 😔

[sharp owl]

You scare people away with your stench :3

[hasty bobcat]

ikr

ppl hate me

[sharp owl]

Not le

Me

Im disappointed in you.

[hasty bobcat]

u2

that's called hating

[sharp owl]

No

Im not mad

Just disappointed

[silver hearth]

sky smells? damn

[sharp owl]

IS THAT SIMON

[hasty bobcat]

im checking if he's alt is banned yet

it is

[sharp owl]

LMAO

[hasty bobcat]

idk where is he now smh

oh nvm

[hasty bobcat]

he's not banned

[sharp owl]

Lonely might be simon

[hasty bobcat]

his alt is still here :3

[sharp owl]

Whats his name

[hasty bobcat]

not telling

[sharp owl]

Aw

[sharp owl]

Im very certain this is simon

Lets see

[hasty bobcat]

no

u gotta play more pubs

[sharp owl]

No

[hasty bobcat]

to meet s*mon

[silver hearth]

[sharp owl]

I can always just ping goat

Then

We can know if its simon or not

[hasty bobcat]

idk if they know their alt rn

who cares anw

[sharp owl]

Simon lore

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, i am sitting at 417h and on r6c3, cause bot gaming

[sharp owl]

I thought you said “yeah ive spent 417h on r6c3”

[daring ginkgo]

i am not that hardstuck ( yet )

time to grind this lvl once again

[sharp owl]

Hardstuck copper

[daring ginkgo]

⛏️

[hasty bobcat]

⛏️

[daring ginkgo]

but first i will test strat with opening/closing doors vs tanks

[hasty bobcat]

ye do that

they're not always backfacing iirc

at least that's what i've seen

[silver hearth]

I love joining pubs sometimes and see some dude just place down 20 turrets

[hasty bobcat]

welcome to p*bs

👁️

[daring ginkgo]

it is grinder perk deck from payday 2

[sharp owl]

Pubs

[daring ginkgo]

turret build xd

[sharp owl]

Grinder vs dsod

I love my grinder deck

[mystic moss]

is r6c3 harder than r5e1

[silver hearth]

Gimme a perk to place down 9 shotugn turret in a corner, I will never die.

[sharp owl]

Nothing is harder than rundwon 5

[daring ginkgo]

mmm

just because of those tanks

[sharp owl]

Can wait for you to do R6D3 solo

[daring ginkgo]

i am not solo player

[sharp owl]

With bots

[daring ginkgo]

[hasty bobcat]

wait have u skipped r4e?

or high only

(main)

[sharp owl]

Speedrun r4E1 main

[hasty bobcat]

funny enough it's slower than 100%

[sharp owl]

HOW

[hasty bobcat]

cuz u have no ammo

for stealth section

smh

[sharp owl]

Oh

[junior latch]

Its not

[hasty bobcat]

isn't it like 38

and 100% is 33

or am i tripping

[brittle schooner]

there is still enuf ammo to more or less blast everything tbh

[silver hearth]

what setup do ya'll run usually for main and special

[hasty bobcat]

star my speedrun got uploaded

i'm a happy man

[brittle schooner]

oo noice

which one?

[hasty bobcat]

d2

it's so bad it's funny

[brittle schooner]

nah im sure u did just fine

[hasty bobcat]

chad got sub 10 which is under verification rn smh

imagine getting cell A 😔

[brittle schooner]

dam

[junior latch]

Not updated

[daring ginkgo]

i did it with real people

[hasty bobcat]

oh

yeah makes sense now

[hasty bobcat]

oh

that also makes sense

[junior latch]

You tried which matters

[hasty bobcat]

tq for verifying bunch of runs eva 😭

[junior latch]

theres far worse stuff

[brittle schooner]

also what did i miss btw, i came back to chat and there were 850 msges lmao

[hasty bobcat]

i was staring at them in speedrun server for days

[junior latch]

theres still like about 5-10 left

And thats ignoring the any% run which is technically 92 unique things

[hasty bobcat]

i was wondering where did the post go

[junior latch]

any% is just a log and video post

it takes ages to verify and im pretty busy sadly

Like i need a full weekend to rly go through one run

[hasty bobcat]

22 hours zzz

[daring ginkgo]

holy shit

it is actually working

a little correction, tank is not turned his back to door, more like he turned sideways

[brittle schooner]

if its a big door he will (usually) be turned back

[daring ginkgo]

i just tested it in r6c3 ov sector with big door

[junior latch]

Closing and opening doors on enemies generally works

Not too unusual strat vs tanks or to bait moms

[brittle schooner]

i mostly use it vs moms cause otherwise they take 10 years 2 get 2 u xd

[real monolith]

How do you verify the codes in r2b3

[brittle schooner]

he wont always be turned back thats why i added the (usually)

[real monolith]

We died because it kept telling us to verify y08 and stuff

[hasty bobcat]

wait ure not new

are u????

[silver hearth]

sounds new with that name

[daring ginkgo]

there are words on screen, telling codes on each symbol combo

like y08 - hurt, b01 - meet etc

[brittle schooner]

uplink_verify hurt

[daring ginkgo]

and you put uplink_verify "correct code"

[brittle schooner]

(for the example provided)

[real monolith]

Ah

[daring ginkgo]

terminal will tell, which code you need

[real monolith]

Im fucking stupid I didnt see top right

Well I did but I panicked and thought terminal would hold my hand

[daring ginkgo]

nope

[real monolith]

?

[daring ginkgo]

manual work baby

[real monolith]

Why the shade

[sharp owl]

my pc hates ccon omfg

[jagged fable]

Hello everyone

[hasty bobcat]

is this a t lfg potential

[sharp owl]

mno

[hasty bobcat]

sadge

[sharp owl]

zsky

are uoy

home

[hasty bobcat]

yea why

no

[sharp owl]

so rude

smh

[jagged fable]

Is GTFO worth the buy ?

[hasty bobcat]

yeah

[real monolith]

Do you have people to play with

Or are you planning to use lfg in this server

Either way Id say its worth it on sale

[jagged fable]

I don’t have friends who play it

[real monolith]

Unfortunate

Well this server is pretty active

You'll be able to find people to play it with

[vast zinc]

me too 😦

[robust dawn]

[real monolith]

?

[lost lynx]

If You like hard games

Really hard games

Then yes

[jagged fable]

Well I m not sure, since I don’t know how possible is it to play solo in GTFO even if the bots are good from what I heard

[lost lynx]

And if You are willing to spend hundreds of hours failling over and over again

[lost lynx]

True solo is impossible

Solo with bots is almost possible

[real monolith]

It is very annoying

[robust dawn]

solo is boring af

[real monolith]

Because the bot ai is stupid and only meant as a backup for when you cant find anybody to play with

[lost lynx]

Some levels require at least another human

[real monolith]

You can only solo certain levels and that's after hours of learning alarms and strats

This is a very unforgiving game and if you want a relatively stress-free experience then this game is not for you

[sharp owl]

this guy made a team vc to play minecraft

[lost lynx]

This

You Will spend hundreds of hours failing

[real monolith]

We should join

[sharp owl]

im REAKLLLY not in a gopopd mood i dont feel like watchin g a russian play minecraft.

[real monolith]

Ah

[sharp owl]

no thanks

[real monolith]

Maybe another time

[hasty bobcat]

ask @daring ginkgo

[hasty bobcat]

he's chinese

[sharp owl]

dsaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddddd

[hasty bobcat]

ure welcome

[sharp owl]

dsaw

[jagged fable]

Not sure tbh, because I play games like isonzo and Insurgency standstrom but I never played games that are super hard

[sharp owl]

this game is ass dont buynit

[lost lynx]

You Will suffer in GTFO
There isnt any other game that really comes close to the experience of GTFO

[sharp owl]

trust

[lost lynx]

Try it

And see if You like it

[sharp owl]

e2'

solo

tru eglticless

no cheese

adsssaxcz

[real monolith]

Trust me it is pure suffering, we are all masochists here

[hasty bobcat]

he's mentally eel don't mind them

[real monolith]

You are not being shunned but rather being warned

[lost lynx]

God i hate this game

I Will keep playing it

[real monolith]

I paid 20 dollar for underground vietnam Im going to engage in underground vietnam

[jagged fable]

I really want to play it ( also because Den of wolves might be similar in some way)

[lost lynx]

DoW is different

It won't be as hard

And it Will be more payday like

[hasty bobcat]

i wish DoW would be second gtfo

[jagged fable]

it’s interesting game because it remends of l4d2

[real monolith]

See the issue is that this game isnt beginner friendly, it has 1 tutorial with like 1 alarm door and that is it

I didnt learn how to play until my friend had me do r1a1 like 20 times

[sharp owl]

i wish i real

[real monolith]

GTFO is only like l4d2 in that it has hordes

Otherwise it's very stealth based and forces you to stock up for certain waves rather than run n gun

[lost lynx]

GTFO is a mix of stealth and run and gun

[sharp owl]

game bad

[lost lynx]

You have stealth heavy levels
And then levels where You just run and clear a way with constant enemies

[sharp owl]

i l0ve it

[jagged fable]

Yeah that is why I already have it on my wish list 👀

[latent palm]

and then you have alex's level

where he chases you down diddy style

[lost lynx]

Real

🫃

[real monolith]

Man pregnant skin tone 2

[jagged fable]

Not a big fan of stealth but I will give it a try

[lost lynx]

Then i don't recommend GTFO

This game is very stealth based

[real monolith]

I would not buy it then

[jagged fable]

Oh so the game is mostly stealth?

sadge

[real monolith]

Yes

[lost lynx]

Yes
With the ocasional Wave holding sections

[real monolith]

Except for alarm doors those are certified black mesa moments

[sharp owl]

pregnant man 3

[jagged fable]

I see

Well than I will wait for DoW

[sharp owl]

gtfo is hard

[lost lynx]

Gtfo makes me hard

[real monolith]

Im hard

[jagged fable]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hasty bobcat]

gtfo

[sharp owl]

ur always hbard

[blissful dome]

Crazy

[hasty bobcat]

i was crazy once