gtfo-chat

[maiden tinsel]

Where is that option?

[raw shard]

If things still look blurry turn off DoF as well

[maiden tinsel]

What’s dof

[raw shard]

Uhhh, don't know off the top of my head but you should find it if you keep looking

[raw shard]

Depth of field

[maiden tinsel]

She says she looked through each setting 5 times and couldn’t find it

lol

[raw shard]

Not looking hard enough then

[junior latch]

display

and you found it in 10 seconds

[maiden tinsel]

“I’ve just accepted that woods has cataracts”

[junior latch]

hopefully it will help

[raw shard]

LOL

Motion blur is a slider, not a boolean

I think?

[vernal nebula]

It’s a slider

[raw shard]

Ye okay, I thought so

[maiden tinsel]

Lmao she found it instantly

Thanks guys

[raw shard]

It's not usually a slider so fair enough

[hasty bobcat]

i know that there is white and red and white and orange

yellow

fuck

i'm trolling myself

[brittle schooner]

no skipping work smh

[hasty bobcat]

i trolled a lot

unintentionally

felt really bad and left after

[brittle schooner]

work or pub lobby?

[hasty bobcat]

pub

[brittle schooner]

oof, what lvl?

ive been that guy before

[hasty bobcat]

r8e2

[brittle schooner]

i forget the lvl but, alt tab and left click

we wiped cause of that

[brittle schooner]

extra oof, fkin up on that lvl is usually wipe

[burnt flume]

no matter how hard you think you've trolled

i've probably trolled harder

[brittle schooner]

xD

[burnt flume]

that's just me being honest

[brittle schooner]

fair fair, i mean dis game quite alot of ways to end up trolling, usually unintentionally xd

[daring ginkgo]

i am seriously considering to do r6c3 with real people already, just to see how to handle this cursed 13:00 - 10:00 min section 💀

it is:

big wave of enemies
giants
tank
another big wave

[junior latch]

shoot gun
place mine
shoot gun

(if tank, scatter)

with people (who arent running around like headless chickens) thats basically the strat

[daring ginkgo]

most bullshit section, i swear

i am actually start to using hammer and scatter on this lvl xd

for first time

[brittle schooner]

also ur still my king btw

[daring ginkgo]

killing sleeping tank very comfortably, but spawned tanks dont want to turn around

[brittle schooner]

if ur running with people who know what their doing its pretty much what eva said lul

especially if u have someone running scatter

tank gets deleted in 10 seconds

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, with real people i bet it will be not hard

[brittle schooner]

last 3-5 mins ur just waiting for the extract 2 open lul

[verbal trout]

that reminds me

o7 hachi

[daring ginkgo]

with bots i can only reach third cell, if i am lucky at the end of timer xd

[brittle schooner]

xddd

[verbal trout]

[brittle schooner]

yea tank is a whole chore with bots

• u cant split up

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, 3 spawned tanks making lvl 10x times harder

[brittle schooner]

mhm

[hasty bobcat]

ty broski

i'm just used playing bio scatter there

and had hel gun sentry so

a bit hard to make decisions

[brittle schooner]

understandable

ye hel gun sentry ur way more limited on what u can do

can only kill c-scouts if their fairly close and facing the right way

cant really do much 2 moms or tanks xd

[hasty bobcat]

i just scatter every threat

that i see

and get to them via bio

[brittle schooner]

i mean ya thats more or less the ideal way of doing things

im guessing u had a more passive scatter player

[hasty bobcat]

mm

maybe

[brittle schooner]

it is what it is

e2 pubs is usually wonky anyways xd

[upper loom]

im ngl

hel gun into tanks aint bad

[brittle schooner]

honestly yea u have a point

im just 2 used 2 scatter and bc xd

[upper loom]

its really good paired with bc

you can ping pong the tank usually

if you're hitting all ur shots

[verbal trout]

it has rhe highest precision mult from all hel type weapons

it´s good, just spam

[brittle schooner]

arent both hel rifle and hel gun 0.8, or am i trippin

[verbal trout]

nope

all hel are on the 0.73-0.74

[brittle schooner]

ya i can see that

i know for sure hel gun is 0.8, just wasnt sure about hel rifle

[mystic moss]

wtf is r6c3 pe harder than r5e1

[daring ginkgo]

i am telling you

with bots it might possibly be harder

[brittle schooner]

i mean with how stupid bots are dealing with tanks

[daring ginkgo]

cause goddamn tanks

[brittle schooner]

i can see it being harder

[daring ginkgo]

AND lvl layout breaking bots minds

i have a bunch of screenshots with them in bs places xd

[brittle schooner]

how do bots even get stuck? i thought they go thro walls if that happens

[daring ginkgo]

i will post it in media rn

[granite cairn]

As someone who plays with bots, this is not the worst thing that could happen but it is rarer

[brittle schooner]

i mean im just genuinely curious how they end up getting stuck when they have the power to go thro walls lul, ive rarely played with bots so idk much about their quirks tbh

[granite cairn]

Eh going through walls is something on another lvl, but their biggest fear is when they are trying to melee a giant (they got wiped 23 times by just 1 in total of all of the runs i have done)

I mean they are made so you can just immediatly call some People and not play with the wackiest AI on this planet

[brittle schooner]

if im not mistaken i think they try to shove giants lmao

[granite cairn]

Well thats incredibly rare

They do Charger their hits but they get killed before hitting them

[brittle schooner]

ya they just stand still and facetank the hits xd

[latent orbit]

samdown is so lit ngl

[hasty bobcat]

were u playing it with hani?

and hange i think

[latent orbit]

no

with hange yeah

r4e1 is nothing compared to that lol

[daring ginkgo]

fcking finally managed to post in media, tor browser is shit for uploading pics, always errors #gtfo-media message

[daring ginkgo]

they cant clip, if enemies are coming, bots just start to shoot

[brittle schooner]

ah

i see

[daring ginkgo]

from my understanding, they doing huge arks, because on other side of wall/ above / below there are door/box/ which they have to ping or break lock

[brittle schooner]

modded rundowns get crazy sometimes

[daring ginkgo]

most outrageous behaviour is when bots decide to stop and shoot

[hasty bobcat]

star i still remember that res

it was hilarious

[daring ginkgo]

i have one theory about this, because i saw what cause this once, it was a locked box and enemies came, so 1 bot maybe tried to break lock and shoot enemies at the same time, resulting in stucking

[brittle schooner]

which res

[brittle schooner]

hmm maybe

[hasty bobcat]

r4e revive

when bot rushed through every imaginable door xd

[brittle schooner]

oh that lmao

my man just casually going thro the map

watching that shit on the viewer is hilarious

[graceful geode]

I've had bots just lock and do nothing sometimes

It always happened when they had biotracker

I think something breaks when they do 2 things and their order gets fucked up so they act silly

Or when they get downed in weird places, that also broke a bot once, I had it fluctuate

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, but the most bullshit thing, when ALL THREE of them stuck and just shoot enemies, it was omw to zone with cell

i was dumbfolded

[graceful geode]

bha

it's just weird

[daring ginkgo]

forgot to took screenshot

[graceful geode]

I'm sure there's something that breaks them regarding scans or whatnot

[analog flicker]

Bot Woods

[sharp owl]

Woods my beloved:(

[desert marsh]

prisoners be like "why don't we get paid per kills?" "because i would break the bank now shutup and watch your sector!"

[analog flicker]

"Wait. You guys are getting paid?"

[shut vapor]

[nimble pumice]

bro, go to BED

[shut vapor]

I got jumpscared by good news so I'm running around doing paperwork

[nimble pumice]

hcgim coming out? gim update? rs3 finally good? which one

[shut vapor]

Personal stuff 😎

You aren't cool enough to know

[nimble pumice]

personal deez into your stuff

[shut vapor]

When are we doing ultimate xtreme onechunk tileman lvl3 firecape group ironman

[nimble pumice]

ill get on rs3 gim

[shut vapor]

Nah save the sanity

I'm gonna be juggling my job, gregtech and runescape at the same time

[nimble pumice]

got what you wanted and denied it, incredible

ill make one just to spite you

[shut vapor]

My life just got like 3x busier

What can I do

[nimble pumice]

enjoy being bussy

[upper loom]

Gregtech & runescape…

o7

[shut vapor]

I'm cooked I know....

[silent dirge]

Bro who plays rs3 in 2024

Play good games instead wtf

[maiden tinsel]

is the heavy assult rifle any good

[lost lynx]

no

[maiden tinsel]

I usually use precision rifle or shotgun

[blissful dome]

stagger headshot

but tis meh

[maiden tinsel]

whats the best one for fog and shitty chokepoints

(things that the precision rifle SUCKS at)

[blissful dome]

?

whats a shitty choke

just like

for reference

[lost lynx]

like a bad angle

[maiden tinsel]

chokepoint just like crampt area

[lost lynx]

ah

shotguns

[blissful dome]

but shitty?

also yea

shotguns

[lost lynx]

combat, normal, sawed off, hel shotgun

[blissful dome]

pen guns can make chokepoints work too

[lost lynx]

choke mod is meh
scattergun is only good against bigs
slug is trash

[maiden tinsel]

they arent very ammo efficient though and it seems like a waste since im pretty good at aiming

[blissful dome]

hel shotty

sawed off

[lost lynx]

hel shotty

also hel revolver

or hel pistol

hel rifle

[blissful dome]

eh

[lost lynx]

hel gun

[blissful dome]

helpp....

[lost lynx]

hel pp is really good to keep enemies in order

[blissful dome]

but

not for killing

[lost lynx]

especially in big waves

your team can finish them off

[blissful dome]

what

[maiden tinsel]

wb shelling

[lost lynx]

im a hel pistol main
i know what im talking about

[blissful dome]

no

[jagged citrus]

combat shotty

[lost lynx]

meh

[blissful dome]

the pistols are

eh

hcp is fine

[jagged citrus]

pistols are perfectly serviceable guns

[lost lynx]

high cal and hel pistol are the only decent ones

the others are meh

[blissful dome]

theyre meh

[maiden tinsel]

when you say hel do you mean the hel gun omneco

[jagged citrus]

burst pistol is garbo, regular pistol is ok

[modern coral]

scattergun is only good against bigs
Just false.

[lost lynx]

theres multiple hel weapons

hel pistol

hel gun

[modern coral]

You can wave clear with Scatter

[lost lynx]

hel rifle

[modern coral]

because Scatter is completely fucking broken

[jagged citrus]

all of the hel weapons are cracked

[blissful dome]

serviceable is literally everything

[maiden tinsel]

yeah but which one are you speaking of

[jagged citrus]

wrong

short rifle

[lost lynx]

HEL PISTOL

[blissful dome]

?

[lost lynx]

hel AUTO pistol

[blissful dome]

it still works

[jagged citrus]

short rifle makes me want to kill myself when i use it therefore it is not serviceable

[lost lynx]

the only one thats named hel pistol

[jagged citrus]

qed

[blissful dome]

might be pain to use but

i mean

[maiden tinsel]

hel pistol is a main weapon

I need a special

I am running carbine for main

[modern coral]

If you take anything but the top two tiers of weapons on a level that is actually hard, you are just trolling.

[jagged citrus]

if you want a special that can hold cqb

[lost lynx]

hel gun
hel rifle
burst cannon
combat shotgun
normal shotgun

[jagged citrus]

bring combat shotty or pump shotty

and to a significantly lesser degree, veruta mg

[maiden tinsel]

pump shotty has terrible ammo efficiency though

[modern coral]

Do not play MG

MG is just bad

Play anything else

[maiden tinsel]

and like I said it seems a waste since I can aim

[jagged citrus]

just dont miss

[lost lynx]

it doesnt?

[jagged citrus]

🙃

[lost lynx]

it literally doesnt

normal shotgun has good ammo

[gusty burrow]

If you can aim, try HEL Gun

[jagged citrus]

combat shotty is lowkey busted

[lost lynx]

kills fast

[blissful dome]

?

[gusty burrow]

And now you have headshots and pen to aim for, lots of outlets for aim to shine

[lost lynx]

also carbine as main is a good choice
but tbh you could try something else

[blissful dome]

hel revo

hel shotty

sawed off

dmr

[maiden tinsel]

ok im bringing carbine and hel gun

and bat

because based

[blissful dome]

oh god

[maiden tinsel]

I hate sledge

[blissful dome]

ofc its a bat player

[lost lynx]

bro is about to perma stagger

[jagged citrus]

tbh the guns we're recommending are best in slot, but as a newer player id encourage you to experiment

[maiden tinsel]

Im actually a spear player

I just dont like sledge

[blissful dome]

oh god

[jagged citrus]

at least give most of the guns a shot

[lost lynx]

bro

[modern coral]

Why?

There's not really a point.

[maiden tinsel]

what

[lost lynx]

spear is the worst melee by far

[blissful dome]

^

[jagged citrus]

find guns that you like

dont just ask the server for "whats best in slot" and never run anything else

[modern coral]

If you find out you like MG

you will just be a worthless teammate on any hard level

[blissful dome]

low value mg player...

[lost lynx]

you are going to get cooked in later levels since you are not able to run while your charge your melee

and i mean cooked

[maiden tinsel]

I like the spear bruh, also how tf are you gonna shit about me using the spear, THEN talk shit about me using the bat

[lost lynx]

bad is fine

[jagged citrus]

then thats perfectly fine, if you enjoy the game like that
when they hit the harder levels they will likely enjoy ti less and switch

[lost lynx]

i like bat

[modern coral]

It is better to get into a weapon that is at least decent early, so that you don't have to switch later.

[jagged citrus]

hell i like veruta, i acknowledge its not particularly good but its fun

[maiden tinsel]

I like the spear because it solos giants easily

and its precise

[blissful dome]

er

[lost lynx]

hammer does even more easier

[maiden tinsel]

for killign scouts

[blissful dome]

er

[jagged citrus]

guys we need sniper for scouts

[modern coral]

It makes more sense to try all of the weapons if you already have a preferred loadout

[blissful dome]

hel sniper...

[lost lynx]

scattergun*

[modern coral]

and are experienced

than if you are new, and need to learn a loadout to stick to.

[lost lynx]

try everything

[maiden tinsel]

but I fucking hate playing with all bots and me and my friends are trying to beat this lvl rn and I dont wanna just waste time with shitty weapons just for the experience

[blissful dome]

try the good ol slug short rifle

[lost lynx]

whta level is it?

[maiden tinsel]

weapons I know I wont even like just because they're "meta"

[blissful dome]

slug sniper even

[jagged citrus]

what level si this?

[maiden tinsel]

r2c2 the question mark mission

[lost lynx]

ah

yeah makes sense

[jagged citrus]

error alarm my beloved

[lost lynx]

first actual error alarm

[jagged citrus]

might i recommend sawed off

[lost lynx]

hope you like em

[modern coral]

Just play CS or Revo, tbh.

But it's not gonna be a weapons issue.

[blissful dome]

hel shotty cs when

[lost lynx]

guys listen
macro short rifle

[blissful dome]

no

[lost lynx]

:(

[blissful dome]

Let me introduce to you, the short rifle. On paper and given to an aimbot, this is like the most broken weapon in the game but it feels like horse shot to use because to use it yo its full potential you literally need to be superhuman, able to click 20 times per second. This is where the macro comes in. You create a macro that when you hold a button, it clicks really fast, mimicking full auto. Don't go overboard with the firing speed. I set mine to fire somewhere between 5 and 10 per second, similar to the assault rifle. Then you bind that button to your most accessible mouse button.

Now you have a weapon that is the most generally ammo efficient in the game with the normal semi auto and then when you switch to full auto, it has up to the highest dps in the game, each bullet dealing more than twice of what the assault rifle does, still with a huge ammo capacity.

The only drawbacks are the somewhat hard to control recoil and half stagger, yet remember it still staggers more per bullet than the assault rifle and pretty much always staggers on heashot. Its also not super great for sniping shooters with early fall off. Deletes both strikers and giants though

[jagged citrus]

pablo why did you have to invoke it

[modern coral]

People tend to struggle with R2C2 if they're bad at making consistent progress in a level or being situationally aware.

[jagged citrus]

real

[lost lynx]

true

[jagged citrus]

took me n my buddies like a week to get our first clear lmao

[lost lynx]

if you learn the level and what to do and not do you could clear it even with shitty guns and bots

R2C2 is usually hard for newbies since you need to do stuff with constant enemies eating your ass

[modern coral]

Also, since Shotgun is being discussed...

It isn't an eco weapon

but eco doesn't matter in this game if you are playing well.

If by "good aim" you mean you could kill 4 strikers just as quickly w/ Revo, then yes prefer Revo or some other eco weapon.

But if you're really taking your time w/ the shots to get them, then Shotgun just lowers the time you spend dealing with enemies.

[shut vapor]

L take, rs3 has some good parts

[lost lynx]

and btw spear is a newbie trap
you might be comfortable with some extra range and precision damage
but you are crippling yourself without you noticing

[modern coral]

Also, high skill shotgun usually wants to be hitting multiple enemies at once.

[lost lynx]

not being able to run while charging IS a big deal

one person with hammer can clear the error alarm in a couple seconds with just the hammer

or bat or knife

[jagged citrus]

hm

if spear had the same base damage as sledge, would the prec multi + range be worth reduced sprint speed

[lost lynx]

no

[jagged citrus]

i think i could at least see running it then

is that a 2 tap on giants?

god damn it im supposed to be doing homework now i have to do the math

[blissful dome]

no

[gusty burrow]

It needs to be meaningfully better at something in order for a trade off to be worth it.

But you can't be meaningfully better vs Giants than Sledgehammer because you can already solo them with Sledgehammer.

[jagged citrus]

dude

its 2 damage short 💀

[mystic moss]

solo giants with no risk*

[blissful dome]

knife...

[jagged citrus]

yeah i know

spear's extra melee range makes killing giants safer, arguably, but if you just dont skill issue sledge is better

why i was thinking in order to make it meaningfully better against giants you'd either need more staggers or 2 htk

and according to my math, if spear had the same base damage as sledge, occy shot + back shot is 118 damage

oof

wait no my math is wrong

its enough to two shot biter giants

[gusty burrow]

wtf is a biter giant

[blissful dome]

lmao

[mystic moss]

the male alternative to shooter giant

[jagged citrus]

right

striker* giant

😒

[mystic moss]

all that teeth on their faces and they don't even bite...

[jagged citrus]

[maiden tinsel]

HEL GUN SUCKS

FUCK THAT STUPID DELAY

[jagged citrus]

lmao

[mystic moss]

go off king

[rose nova]

skill issue

[lost lynx]

its the best special

[jagged citrus]

chargeup takes a bit of getting used to for sure

[lost lynx]

the fuck you mean

[pine root]

he has rubed off on you

[blissful dome]

er

[jagged citrus]

i think hel rifle beats it out personally

[blissful dome]

hm

[jagged citrus]

but yes

[pine root]

oh my

[blissful dome]

go off

[mystic moss]

pr better

[maiden tinsel]

I can AIM but not when theres a ONE SECOND DELAY BETWEEN PULLING THE TRIGGER AND ACTUALLY FIRING

[lost lynx]

sorry, 2nd best special

[lost lynx]

its .1 seconds

[jagged citrus]

erm actually its 0.2s

[gusty burrow]

I thought he was good at aiming, alas, can't track for 0.2 seconds

[jagged citrus]

lmao it definitely takes some getting used to

[blissful dome]

er

[lost lynx]

then he is not good at aiming?

[jagged citrus]

me personally, i dont like ti that much

[blissful dome]

hm

[jagged citrus]

feels like it doesnt do a whole lot unless i hit headshots

[blissful dome]

if you pen

[jagged citrus]

but i cant deny that its cracked in the hands of someone good at the game

[maiden tinsel]

I am good at aiming just not with that bullshit, its like everything ive learned from shooters for years being thrown out the window

[mystic moss]

yeah helgun doesn't do alot when it's 2 shotting strikers / chargers / shooters

[lost lynx]

sawed off + hel gun = ez game

[jagged citrus]

yeah but i can never tell when i successfully pierce or not

[gusty burrow]

Nah, HEL Gun charge up can legitimately take a little to get used to, but trust me when I say that it is worth it

[blissful dome]

it

[jagged citrus]

hate to break it to you, some of the best guns in this game have chargeups lmao

[lost lynx]

? so you never had to hold the shoot button and track an enemy for multiple seconds

[maiden tinsel]

yeah exactly

[jagged citrus]

but to each, their own

[gusty burrow]

Weapon is busted when you start hitting shots

[jagged citrus]

if you dont like the chargeup, try the shotties

combat shotty > pump shotty > choke

[blissful dome]

hit headshot or pen

:P

what can i say

[maiden tinsel]

I mean like rocket launchers and shit yeah but not getting fuckin direct hits on enemies that are far away from me

[jagged citrus]

hel gun/hel rifle are the rocket launchers of this game

or at least as close as you'll get

[lost lynx]

scattergun

close quarters combat rocket launcher

[jagged citrus]

i suppose that depends on whether you consider the rocket launcher in games to be high single target dps or efficient aoe

[maiden tinsel]

kinda both

[jagged citrus]

i guess scatter can crowd clear

whatever

i digress

[maiden tinsel]

the rocket launcher in cod back when I played was overpowered

just shoot into chokepoint and watch the frags roll in

[jagged citrus]

hel gun can pierce up to 4 enemies per shot so if you get fools running at you in a straight line you get a lot of value

that plus being bale to one shot smalls on headshot makes it quite strong

if you can get used to the chargeup 🙃

[maiden tinsel]

wait can you hold left click to charge it up

[mystic moss]

the charge up did put me off the gun for like the first year i played the game

[maiden tinsel]

because maybe thats my gripe

[jagged citrus]

...uh

yes?

how...else would you do it

[mystic moss]

how else are you suppose to charge it up lol

[unreal crystal]

u guys misunderstand

[mystic moss]

unless you mean it's auto

[blissful dome]

???

[maiden tinsel]

if you tap it functions just like a normal gun with a slight delay

[jagged citrus]

i

what

???

[blissful dome]

huh

[jagged citrus]

its a semi automatic gun, if you gold the button down itll only shoot once

[unreal crystal]

you cant charge it up to do more damage or anything like that

[jagged citrus]

and if you dont hold the button down for at least 0.2s it doesnt shoot

[mystic moss]

would that be a good gun idea

[unreal crystal]

its just a normal gun with a slight delay

[maiden tinsel]

yeah I know

[blissful dome]

??

[mystic moss]

dmg proportional to charge up time

[maiden tinsel]

but if you hold left click and release does it shoot immediately

[jagged citrus]

no

[lost lynx]

yes

[jagged citrus]

fuck off pablo

if you hold m1, itll start charging

[blissful dome]

damn

[jagged citrus]

as soon as the charge is done, itll shoot

[lost lynx]

im confused

[jagged citrus]

in the hel gun's case, thats 0.2s

so you hold the button down for 0.2s

and then it shoots

[lost lynx]

i thought he meant this

[jagged citrus]

you cant like, precharge the gun and then shoot it when u want

[lost lynx]

yeah as goober says

[jagged citrus]

if that's what you're asking

[maiden tinsel]

ok so thats why I hate it so much

I didnt know you could do that

I jusst thought it had a delay

[jagged citrus]

its a regular gun that just shoots 0.2s after you click the button instead of instantly

which considering how strong it is, really isnt that much of a downside tbh

[maiden tinsel]

wait so can you precharge it or not

[jagged citrus]

no

[lost lynx]

no

[modern coral]

You cannot precharge

[jagged citrus]

as soon as the charge is full, it shoots

[maiden tinsel]

ok so I hate this gun

[jagged citrus]

lmao

[blissful dome]

hm

[modern coral]

Unlucky

[lost lynx]

then use a shotgun

[modern coral]

Play CS or Revo, probably.

[lost lynx]

honestly

[jagged citrus]

not for everyone

[mystic moss]

nah nah give him like a year

[jagged citrus]

hey outlaw

[modern coral]

Or HEL Rifle

[jagged citrus]

try the burst cannon

[lost lynx]

use a shotgun

[jagged citrus]

🙃

[maiden tinsel]

maybe

[modern coral]

HEL Rifle has less charge-up (0.12 instead of 0.2)

[jagged citrus]

hel rifle is shorter?

[blissful dome]

how is that better in this case lmao

[blissful dome]

yes

[jagged citrus]

its not i was being funny

[blissful dome]

but it has a seperate shot delay

[lost lynx]

charge guns = not good
and all the good guns are charge guns

💀

[maiden tinsel]

screw you I almost used it

[modern coral]

But if you want a weapon that rewards accuracy and has no charge-up, CS and Revo are the only good options.

[maiden tinsel]

I was wondering if it was good

[jagged citrus]

teehee

[blissful dome]

scatter

[jagged citrus]

burst cannon is good

arguably on par with hel gun/hel rifle

[mystic moss]

he's already pr-pilled

[lost lynx]

macro SR

[jagged citrus]

but it has a 0.7s chargeup lmao

makes up for that chargeup by doing tons of damage

[blissful dome]

im going to send it again

[jagged citrus]

but a chargeup nonetheless

[lost lynx]

do not

[modern coral]

Scatter, HEL Rifle, BC, and HEL Gun are the 4 strongest Specials in the game, and 3/4 have charge-up.

[maiden tinsel]

I LOVE PR I LOVE PR I LOVE PR I LOVE PR I LOVE PR

[blissful dome]

hm

[jagged citrus]

high cal, to a degree?

[lost lynx]

PR is cool

[blissful dome]

accuracy?

[jagged citrus]

pr is pretty solid if you dont beef

[modern coral]

Didn't sound like what they were looking for.

[jagged citrus]

fuck you hitting bodyshots is hard >:(

[blissful dome]

erm

[jagged citrus]

shhh

one of my buddies ran accuracy mod last night and i actually had 50% headshot accuracy with my hel revo

[blissful dome]

ok...

[mystic moss]

what if you ran revo...

[jagged citrus]

which was significantly better than i was expecting

[lost lynx]

skill issue

[jagged citrus]

yeah im aware its not good

i was expecting like

15%

[lost lynx]

should have be 90%

[jagged citrus]

rela

real

[mystic moss]

so out of your total accuracy of 20%

[jagged citrus]

shut up >:(

[mystic moss]

50% were headshots

[hasty bobcat]

what's that talk team

was too lazy to read

[jagged citrus]

it only took me 4 hel rifle shots to kill 1 bitepr

[mystic moss]

nothing interesting

[hasty bobcat]

hel gun yapping or what

[lost lynx]

no way goobernaught getting exposed?

[mystic moss]

yeah the daily hel gun yap

[hasty bobcat]

average

[jagged citrus]

i have professed my lack of skill extensively

i am good at many things in this game

click on head is not one of them

[lost lynx]

same

[hasty bobcat]

just hold lmb when everyone is in line

zzz

[lost lynx]

thats why i use shotguns

[blissful dome]

charge up guns suck...

i should put that in quotes

[hasty bobcat]

is it sarcasm

[jagged citrus]

no

[blissful dome]

no

i wish that was

[jagged citrus]

hel rifle worst gun in the game

ban

delete

[blissful dome]

^

so true

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[lost lynx]

BC too

.7 seconds charge up

[hasty bobcat]

tbf i don't like bc only

[latent orbit]

kill ifo

[blissful dome]

#gtfo-chat message

[hasty bobcat]

cuz i'm bad

[hasty bobcat]

XD

[blissful dome]

NOOOOO

[lost lynx]

alright tbh

[lost lynx]

i also thought hel gun was trash my first couple hours

same with hel shotgun

[latent orbit]

haha

[high orchid]

I always feel sad whenever I use 3 burst bc

[latent orbit]

fucking goober

[jagged citrus]

idk i like it a lot more than 5 burst

[blissful dome]

stay winning,,,

[jagged citrus]

5 burst was funnier and better against big guys but 3 burst + faster firing speed feels better

[latent orbit]

3 burst cannon is easier to use for sure

[jagged citrus]

also i feel less bad about ammo balancing by dumping into a crowd

[high orchid]

3 burst just feels like I'm using a stronger burst rifle

[hasty bobcat]

wait 5 burst wouldn't one shot a giant no?

or would it before

[jagged citrus]

it was like 110 damage

[lost lynx]

ammo balancing? first time i see that concept

just shoot

[jagged citrus]

teammate help or swap to your main

[hasty bobcat]

i sleep zzz

[jagged citrus]

which was arguably better, objectively

but the two burst kill feels better

more dopamine

🤤

[hasty bobcat]

ammo efficiency...

[high orchid]

nah there's more dopamine hitting that 5 burst

[latent orbit]

no

[jagged citrus]

if i have to switch guns to kill a giant its a bad gun

[hasty bobcat]

is it just me or bc has like not much ammo

[jagged citrus]

although i will say

PLEASE make the clip divisible by 3

[lost lynx]

what the fuck is ammo balancing

[latent orbit]

its alot

[hasty bobcat]

it's like 3 and a half clips?

or smth

[jagged citrus]

having a two burst at the end of my clip is SO annoying

[latent orbit]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

I still dont think 5 burst was better

[jagged citrus]

real shit

[wraith marsh]

it just has to compete with scatter rn

[hasty bobcat]

exactly

[jagged citrus]

i think it disinguishes it more

[latent orbit]

prepatch back in 2022 was kinda ass

5 burst cannon and no burst cancel

[jagged citrus]

5 burst was just "scattergun with slightly less damage for more range"
now it feels more segregated, as its own gun

[mystic moss]

we're acting like a balance patch is gonna come

[latent orbit]

rip….

[pine root]

guys we should buff bc to 5 burst and scatter a bit to compensate

[hasty bobcat]

would be lit

[jagged citrus]

make scatter 5 burst

[lost lynx]

next balance patch is another nerf for sniper and a buff for scatter

[fringe garden]

people are very good at conflating good uptime with low ammo
now bc doesn't have a lot of ammo per refill but it sure has pretty good total ammo

[mystic moss]

just run vanilla reloaded in public lobbies

no one will notice...

[blissful dome]

nerf sniper

[jagged citrus]

nerf sniper 💯

[wraith marsh]

max ammo does not matter

hate to say it

[pine root]

my MG has 500 bullets

SUcks to suck

[jagged citrus]

literally the only gun i can think of that really suffers from max ammo problems is sniper

[mystic moss]

my gun has higher total damage than your gun

[jagged citrus]

but that gun has bigger problems lmao

[lost lynx]

its not like you use it often anyways

right?

[latent orbit]

isnt it 200 or 250

[jagged citrus]

no i dont use it anymore

[latent orbit]

im a mg player how could i forget

[lost lynx]

not even for scouts?

[jagged citrus]

it was bad enough when it was good and i couldnt hit headshots

[pine root]

i use a balance mg

[jagged citrus]

no i just wake them all up :(

[latent orbit]

lf1m r4e1 duo

[blissful dome]

simon when r4e1 foam only

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

[hasty bobcat]

again simon

[foggy plank]

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[foggy plank]

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[foggy plank]

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[hasty bobcat]

damn get .t lfg'ed simon

[latent orbit]

next year

[blissful dome]

wilco

ill keep track

[latent orbit]

i curse all of you

[blissful dome]

have it marked on my calendar

[fringe garden]

hi im im willing to kill my sleep for r4e1 duo

[hasty bobcat]

simon got a question

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

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[latent orbit]

i cant kill mine tho

[hasty bobcat]

where do u configure jish lowspecgaming mod

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

[blissful dome]

womp womp

[foggy plank]

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[pine root]

in

[hasty bobcat]

archive?

[pine root]

the config

[hasty bobcat]

or config

[pine root]

folder

[hasty bobcat]

mm

[latent orbit]

config txt

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

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[pine root]

archive doesnt like us.

unfo

[latent orbit]

i will kill you

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

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[jagged citrus]

empty threats

i will rend the flesh from your bones

[mystic moss]

can we get a simon death threat counter

[pine root]

it is at like 7

for me

add in your values

[lost lynx]

he already said 20 for me

[mystic moss]

um...

[pine root]

...

[lost lynx]

idk why he hates me so much

[pine root]

gay coated?

[pine root]

i mean nvm

maybe he was right

[jagged citrus]

he only threatened to kill me once 🥺

[blissful dome]

hey simon hasnt threatened me with death yet

dont do it

[jagged citrus]

alright its 8 pm you guys have distracted me long enough

[blissful dome]

ill find you

<3

[jagged citrus]

i gotta go figure out how to plot a fourier series in matlab

wish me luck

[latent orbit]

can you stop sending your pubs moment in my dms everyday

[blissful dome]

no

[latent orbit]

im literally patrick bateman

i will cut you to pieces

[mystic moss]

+1

[latent orbit]

hello Jish

[pine root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194524376561893527/1298801546015932466/image.png?ex=671ae2b3&is=67199133&hm=a784d41063fc15f45e35c18d607bd9b7ee1802dad7c8b4d4d13c13b9495d6298& picture of simon telling me to off myself

[lost lynx]

IFO got his first time now

[latent orbit]

how are you doing today

[latent orbit]

im just worried for you homie

also you didnt reply my message so i thought you werent in the overworld anymore

[pine root]

i am

still in the overworld

for the next few

days

then idk

after the sniper clear of r8e2

[blissful dome]

true

[blissful dome]

wow

damnit automod

[latent orbit]

sorry i have the intention of eating people

[lost lynx]

simon

[blissful dome]

weird fetish

[lost lynx]

when are we having dinner together

[blissful dome]

but ok

[lost lynx]

you promised like 2 weeks ago

[latent orbit]

fuck you

[lost lynx]

nah

someone already does it

[blissful dome]

DAMN

[latent orbit]

i mean

you can still apply for another school

[hasty bobcat]

hot take but I think one sniper is actually good there

[latent orbit]

i have seen people like 28 years old still studying so

[hasty bobcat]

jish

how do u turn on heads

on sleepers

in ur thingy

[lost lynx]

what the fuck

[hasty bobcat]

nightmare enemies have no tentacles

and heads

apparently

[lost lynx]

OH

[hasty bobcat]

@pine root

[latent orbit]

Jish im feeling so bad rn

can you come to my house and make me release dopamine

[pine root]

4X sniper

4X ar

No tool besides bio

Isn’t great ngl

[pine root]

I go to choir

[pine root]

IRF

Or something

it controls the leaves snd things

[latent orbit]

downtown gaming

[lost lynx]

smash

[latent orbit]

i love downtown

yeah

[hasty bobcat]

well that yeah

[latent orbit]

smash your fucking skull

[lost lynx]

+1

[pine root]

Mr Joe Biden you have taken 50 thousand doolar from my grandma bank

Why Mr Joe Biden

[latent orbit]

damn

dont give it up

you can still be my housemaid

$8/hour

[lost lynx]

Hmmmmmm

$8/hour

[pine root]

I got some better deals

For being a house maid even

[latent orbit]

you can get a $2 raise if you can say “ご飯にする？お風呂にする？それとも私？” everytime im back home

[pine root]

Wow

2 dollars

Omg

[opal delta]

finally a practical usage of third learned language

[pine root]

Money was a mistake and anyone who has invested money into anything should be executed

[high orchid]

why don't you lead by example then spending money on video games is investing in your own enjoyment

[pine root]

I don’t enjoy the games I play

Checkmate liberal

[opal delta]

oh look at you, you're spending money to play games, смешно

[latent orbit]

i cant stop investing money for the goods in downtown

this is what minimal dopamine release did to me

i blame it

[pine root]

Stop micro dosing

Do like the rest of Vancouver

And over dose

[long flame]

is anyone here?

[rose nova]

maybe

:3

[long flame]

rundown?

[rose nova]

r u searching for people?

[long flame]

yeah a group of 4 maybe, I just want to play the game. I try to get my friends on all the time but nobody is interested. I dont really use the discord all that often.

[rose nova]

well, for finding people, u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies, the instructions are in #how-to-matchmake

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you haven't, be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[long flame]

I have played almost all of the first set of rundowns. I can just never seem to find people to play with.

[rose nova]

oh ksks
well u can just post the levels u need then
just if u want to augment ur possibilities

try posting during like american times i guess

[lost lynx]

It's hard to find people in the weekdays usually

[jagged citrus]

.t lfg

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[humble meteor]

Anyone's got any interesting loadout mixes that I could try out? So far I've been testing the assault rifle + pump shotgun and it's been working quite well

[hasty bobcat]

burst pistol + short rifle

[lost lynx]

Hel pistol + combat shotgun

Slug shotgun + sniper

[hasty bobcat]

:3

[rose nova]

what i used to run a lot was pistol and a shotgun, hel shottie machinegun, smg and hel rifle or chokemod...

[latent orbit]

use the silenced glock and pgm hecate II

best loadout

[rose nova]

those were the combos i did for funs

if i wanted a clear i just stuck to hel revo

[lost lynx]

Simon
No one asked for modded shit

Gtfo

[rose nova]

fish reacted

[latent orbit]

keep yourself safe pablo

[lost lynx]

+1

[mystic moss]

we're on 3 already?

keep them coming

[bleak stag]

what is the wierdest loadout?

[modern coral]

Depends on what "weird" means.

[bleak stag]

what is the worst weapons then

[lost lynx]

Slug

Sniper

Short rifle

Burst pistol

Thats all the worsts guns i can think off

Anything else is "fine"

[modern coral]

Assault Rifle / Arbalist / Shotgun Sentry / Spear

[lost lynx]

Change AR for Slug

And arbalist for sniper

[modern coral]

Slug is significantly better.

[lost lynx]

And You have the worst loadout ever

[lost lynx]

Are You high?

[modern coral]

Sniper is almost always better in a balanced team comp.

[lost lynx]

Team comp

[bleak stag]

so slug and sniper got it

imma use it now

[lost lynx]

Oh
My
God

[modern coral]

Weapon that does 20 damage vs. a weapon that takes multiple seconds to kill one enemy.

It's not even close, Slug is just a better gun.

[lost lynx]

At least AR has ammo

[modern coral]

???

[lost lynx]

Slug is slow and has horrible range

[modern coral]

If you aim perfectly

Absolutely perfectly

[lost lynx]

AR has "decent" ammo and more range

And it's not slow

[bleak stag]

i try it 3 times not bad actually

[modern coral]

AR is less than 9 kills per refill

which is really bad

[lost lynx]

Same with slug
If You miss one shot in front of an enemy Wave You are cooked

You need to aim good with slug

[modern coral]

That isn't hard when you need to hit one shot anywhere.

VS. 2 shots to the head, followed by 5 to the body

[lost lynx]

Now imagine with that slow ass rate of fore You have 5 enemies in front

[modern coral]

It's not even a competition, any half-decent player will get better value w/ Slug than AR.

[bleak stag]

i have a question you need to jump to hit scout with slegde to not hit shoulders?

[lost lynx]

No

[modern coral]

AR doesn't even have enough mag to kill 4 of them, lmfao.

[lost lynx]

You can just hit it

[bleak stag]

i mostly miss if i dont jump

[modern coral]

And your reload is awful.

[lost lynx]

Are we seriously arguing what is the worst gun

lol

[modern coral]

AR is easily worst in the game.

It's not a contest.

[lost lynx]

Me when burst pistol

[modern coral]

Unironically, it's leagues better.

Actually gets a ton of ammo

[lost lynx]

💀

[modern coral]

actually very spammable, and outputs some stagger when accurate.

[lost lynx]

Burst pistol vs BBC

Who wins

[modern coral]

Do you genuinely think AR does anything on BBC?

[lost lynx]

No

slug can at least do something

But like

[modern coral]

Almost two full mags to kill, and basically no stagger from AR.

[lost lynx]

Eh

Decent 🫃

[bleak stag]

burst pistol not really good for me

[lost lynx]

Run AR

Because AR is the best worst gun in the game

[bleak stag]

ar is decent for me

[modern coral]

Look, you're allowed to be wrong.

Any competent player will tell you that the Main autos (besides autopistol) are almost universally less potent than burst-fire and semi-auto options.

and AR easily has the fewest redeeming qualities of the autos, having the worst all-around stat combination.

[lost lynx]

Bro

Everyone agrees on that

Jesus christ

[unreal crystal]

Weren’t you literally just disagreeing with that

[modern coral]

Not you, apparently.

[unreal crystal]

average

[bleak stag]

👍

[lost lynx]

I still hold my ground that AR is better than slug in a lot of situations
But they are both shit anyways

[lost lynx]

You are not running fucking slug in r5d2 right?

[modern coral]

Like, we talked about this in the context of the worst loadouts in R8E2 as well.

Slug is easily a much stronger pick than AR, because it staggers nightmares and is a consistent two-tap.

And it at least goes even on ammo.

[bleak stag]

ahh

[lost lynx]

Why would You run slug in E2 is the question

[unreal crystal]

for fun

[lost lynx]

Fair enough

[modern coral]

Actually, doesn't go even, but you have to have very unrealistic AR accuracy.

[bleak stag]

i mean doing it for fun

[modern coral]

The intention was to run the least clearable loadout.

And slug makes the level more clearable, easily.

AR is much worse

[granite cairn]

Im kinda confused what this topic is truly about

[modern coral]

Worst Main weap

[lost lynx]

Yeah lol

[bleak stag]

i mostly go for the big first

[bleak stag]

worst weapons

[granite cairn]

Idk man burst pistol is def in top 3

[bleak stag]

i kinda started it

[gusty burrow]

Burst Pistol, AR and Bullpup bottom 3

[modern coral]

I think it is the worst of semi-autos and bursts, but it's better than the worst autos still.

[bleak stag]

burst pistol for me the worst

[modern coral]

It has too many redeeming qualities to be the very bottom, bullpup and AR are just weaker.

[lost lynx]

Bullpup has at least a cool sight

Thats all it has

[gusty burrow]

And the bullpup sound

[granite cairn]

Same i never have tried any other gun since i dont have anymore much time to even test out the guns

[gusty burrow]

MMMM

VRRRRRRRRRTTTTT

[modern coral]

And when I have run intentionally bad loadouts, burst pistol genuinely carries the choke loadout for example.

[bleak stag]

i tried it once dont like it very much

[granite cairn]

Burst pistol is made so you can switch to hel revolver

Without having to think twice

[lost lynx]

Burst pistol is made to just not use it

👍

[modern coral]

It was added so that we could have a non-auto that was just as bad as some autos.

Need to balance out the metagame

[lost lynx]

I'm going to be honest

What were they thinking

When making the slug, burst pistol and short rifle

[modern coral]

Same thing they were thinking when they gutted Sniper same patch they buffed Scatter

[granite cairn]

The situation with guns is not as bad as with bots

[lost lynx]

I know short rifle was supposed to be like a DMR replacement for special or something

[modern coral]

Nobody on the balance team has a good idea of what the meta is.

[lost lynx]

But holy shit

They made the gun

[granite cairn]

Well thats kinda bad

[modern coral]

It was a dying game for like a year prior to R8, so...

It was very much expected.

and they never really iterated on their process of pickrate balance.

[hasty bobcat]

wht ppl hate bullpup 😭

it doesn't deserve that

[modern coral]

Really long reload, understatted to the same extent that every auto is.

[hasty bobcat]

aw

reload does suck it's true

[modern coral]

PDW, SMG, MP, and HSMG are only better by virtue of having quick (mostly) reloads.

[gusty burrow]

ALT://R6 balance was pretty good

[modern coral]

The patches did seem reasonable enough

until the R8 one

[gusty burrow]

Like, decent BC rework

Auto buffs

[unreal crystal]

They could’ve given us the revo meta

[latent orbit]

hello beth

[unreal crystal]

Missed opportunity

[latent orbit]

how much time did it take for your first r4e1 duo

[lost lynx]

Hey Simon

[latent orbit]

shut up

[unreal crystal]

like a week

It was OG

and I had to learn burst cancel

[modern coral]

I forget if mine was a week or two weeks, but we had shorter sessions.