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Yes only ghosts of dead people stand on sides of this road
well i have been enjoying the game with 2 friends now hehe
we are almost finishing r1
All the sleepers you see? They were once players
rip mrmountainman 🕯️
🕯️
Another person passed away 🕯️
🕯️
As I said this server is full of ghosts of people who died in a terrible way 🕯️
im soo confused hahaha
they killed my boy
Controversial opinion: it's for the best
he cant continue pub hunters anymore
its actually so tragic
his latest episode with the bee eye went so hard
i never even got to play with him
rip
What happened in June with this game?
You didn't sign up for the pub hunters newsletter smh
I was checking the steam charts and player count heavily increased
june 2022?
Sale probably
Nah 2024
i think that was a free weekend
free weekend and streamathon
oh yeaaa
Ohhh ok makes sense since it went down 9k players after LOL
oh right
I’m surprised the game is still somewhat alive
dedicated playerbase
True
Dev stream in june + free week
im still mad i didnt get the gtfo diaper
So much missed opportunity with this game imo i wish it was fully realized/implemented
And I'm mad i didn't get the toilet paper
ehhh, its not like the game is bad the way it is
L IMAGINE LOSING
We still mad you didn't get us R8 mono build
its not bad, its fucking terrible with the gun balance
you were winners for a day
Yeah but it also could have been handled and made better imo
we dont talk about balancing
isnt that the case for like 90% of games tho? im happy with what we got
Bro was cooked and got so much shit for free
🤨
Streamer favouritism
yeah he was flexing how he just refuses merch they wanna give him
Yeah but also I’m sure most games don’t cut stuff right before they’re about to release like the new tools

Weapon customisation my beloved
People don't actively complain in a game such as DRG. However, GTFO and hell divers both have instances of the commmunity complaining so much because the choices the devs have made are just DUMB
we were robbed
LF new hacking minigames and progression
I wish I could find the r3 stream where the devs mentioned it was still planned
There was one at gamescom 
The last I heard about it was one of them gaslighting me and saying how it never was going to come to the game
pretty average
Deserved
LMAO
the game is fun but its still a LOT of missed potential
and its been abandoned in a pretty rough state
preach
stuck enemies never getting fixed
It's playable but just about
isnt drg just like... an actual masterpiece of a game that happens once in a thousand years? like DRG has set the bar so absurdly high that most devs wont reach it. Especially when making niche games like gtfo
Genuinely insane
I hope I still have my cut gtfo content archive somewhere, I think it’d be interesting to post on the subreddit or something so people fully realize the scope of what was lost
How long have you been playing GTFO? If you have been playing since like OG R2 then you'll realise how much the game has gone to shit and how much stuff got culled.
Only ogs remember R2C3

R3E1 🕯️
I remember C foam grenades having 2 charges
i was og r5 and ive still heard so mcuh shit from before, so id love to see what else people missed out on
2 charge cfoam nades went so hard
I remember foggies 100% 4 uses
OG R5 was the last good bit of hope for GTFO with the sick extension
very solid extension yeah
oh god are you one of those "og r2 was the best rundown and i refuse to believe in anything else" guys? like with all respect but cmon man. The devs made a good game, and sure we missed some possibly good stuff along the way but thats just what happens. And being a bitch about it really wont change anything. I can understand being mad at gun balancing, but complaining about scrapping things and the game "going to shit" feels just... like useless bitching ngl
I was og r6 btw
Bro you don't know what was taken from you
Cubix eat neskquik with beer
well you all should admit you clearly enjoyed your time with this game enough to stay here till now
well yea but you dont just disregard everything we couldve had as well
I want my GTFO battlepass
Them bringing back the og rundowns was cool but I feel bad for the people who missed out on solo kiting r1c1 and having to manually open every single stupid fucking hack locker
Bruh I haven't played vanilla in MONTHS. Most of my hours on this game now is modded
LMFAO
I don't like this game anymore
im not?
I don't even play it
im not gonna deny the game could have been so much diffrent and quite possibly better
r8 was honestly really good and it made me sad that the game was getting abandoned when they could actually make fun and challenging levels still
its interesting when you realize most of the "new" content they released had been worked on since 2016, either completely finished or in-development and was slowly dripfed to the playerbase
i will always complain about whatever the fuck happened with the lore of this game
R8 was what R6 and R7 should have been
It showed they have good ideas and good potential
You can say og r2 was the best time for the game, but despite all the shit they've done, r8 release was on the same level imo
but then they wasted it
dont diss r6 and r7! they have the best levels like uhhhh
Ngl R8 was good
yes i love my super great new enemy that pablo is! he is so funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
I know right
i think im coming up on my 5th year anniversary of starting this game and r5/6/7 are by far the most forgettable for me
(log on already)
Already did
Good
You dummy
Go check melee only bbc speed Pablo
i liked R6s "shit they fly now"
and R7 choking asmr was something else
admit it
oh yeah the enemy that took them like 5-6 years to develop
for some reason
R6 and R7 were good in terms of new enemies but other than that, it added no new mechanics. Just the same old shit and badly optimised gardens
Schaeffer has been the highlight of the entire game
I liked pre-alpha, could ping anywhere and collect some tissues samples, liver samples etc
oh my god yeah that was the gardens one
never forget what they killed in ALT R6, bastards took my crazy guy away
its just a big level with a lot of stuff going on
I remember my friend just couldn't play it, he crashed on loading
Don't forget all the logs in r4 and r5!!
even tho he doesn't play his own game
crazy how gardens was the first (and last) environment that wasn't worked on from near the start of development and it was completely fucked up
oh yeah, no more Scheaffer yelling at a voice in his head
sadge
Still waiting for underwater level with water scooters
does den of wolves look any good
as long as the writers do their job, id say it can be cool
It has Simon music
im definitely not buying it ofc given gtfo's treatment but i havent seen any of it yet
you WILL get alternate universes and you WILL like it
id say thats a bit harsh ngl, but your choice after all
i just hope they make the "evil" corpos actually have some depth and not just be "evil corpos"
I'm buying it because it's a successor to gtfo. I've seen what they can do and I'm willing to invest 😔
i think im still just salty about the stamina fiasco
and then all the other stuff ofc
I just don't think you have the knowledge of what the devs have done and how they've treated their community to understand why people won't give DoW a try
It's massive copium
DoW "GTFO" dlc, break into strange facility to retrieve some valuable loot but something goes wrong......
That's how it starts 😔
maybe
but also i cant believe they are gonna do the same shit for another game
but perhaps i really have too much faith in humanity
still insane to me how they said "we're not introducing stamina, we are introducing a system where you are put on a timed limit when you run, jump, etc that you have to take time to recover from"
They have more people, they should work better because it's their diploma work
i remember seeing some image they posted ages ago
maybe it was a roadmap?
but it had smth about
hopefully, and hopefully they dont cut like 90% of the features they heavily advertise and then never bring up again
ANTI KITING MEASURES
like back in og r5 probs
where are these anti kiting measures
Yeah I think it was because Kiting was so bad in R4 and R5.
cause stam doesnt solve it
There was a legit kite meta
it was planned to come in s5.5 iirc
it was spitters that cfoam you
tbf circle kiting doesnt really exist anymore w
its not as big as it was back then
for sure
they couldnt finish them in time for r5 release so it got delayed to r5.5 and then never talked about again; iirc they continued to work on it up until i want to say the rundown re-releases then never released them
so i guess it worked, but people can still do all of this if theyre good enough
thats crazy
Idk, music by Simon is good, new devs made good levels for r8 imo, anyway we will see later how it will be
Did you know all of GTFO's music was actually made in the Alpha stage of the game. R7 music can be traced back to the Original files
I know that GTFO had grown by like 1-2 gigs from alpha for all of this time
Simon hasn't touched this game in YEARS, but he came back just to do the new Wave roar audio then fucked off again
Yeah true
Its mostly the same with all of the devs
that's why new rundowns have no new content
we were being drip fed Alpha content
i dont think thats inherently bad but it gets bad when you dont release updates for long periods of time just to release content you made years ago
the problem is the time between updates
Gtfo doesn't really have that much of music, I mostly refer to music from pd and dow trailer
like im still so confused on wtf they were doing between r1-r2 and r2-r3 and for a good chunk of r3-r4
No one knows
r5 like whatever they had to rework cocoons and finalize floodways which i get
I think GTFO's sound and music is superb, but it was all made when the game was in Alpha testing
There is no excuse for the long wait times. 9 months for R6 and we got a new enemy varient and some updated animations
wow
Agree, still love my music that plays here from alpha times
Didn’t they also update the roadmap for it to specify new enemy variants instead of new enemies or am I tripping
the roadmaps i saw were like
Slap it in and call it a day
new dangers in the complex
My favorite piece of GTFO cut content trivia is how they’ve been working on a new tool since like 2016 up until r8 release just to never release it
thats fucking insane
there's so much shit they never released. It's depressing
HEHEHEHA
Mapper 
Doc be like “the mapper will release in full release guys trust me”
what u streamin

WHY YOU LAUGHIN
great basic levels plus other nice designs in R6
R7 has D2.
D1 is a uuhh great idea with extremely flawed execution
E1 first half is mega kek
also idk man. Saying they had most of the more recent content rdy since 2016 just isnt what happened 
(GTFO couldve been a lot better and its horrible that its left in this state while showing that they can actually do cool stuff with R8 that people get excited for)
fuckin gardens
look awesome, play like dogshit
also idk man. Saying they had most of the more recent content rdy since 2016 just isnt what happened :d4rkevblank:
it definitely is the case for most of it
just get a better pc
this comment was written by a laptop 30FPS member gang
what is "most"
most enemies and most environments
if not ready since 2016, at least planned and heavily developed since 2016
music is def true
environments i also rly wouldnt call new tbh (thats on them not adding anything tho LOL)
legit the only thing added since r6 was gardens
that was nearly 3 years ago
i think you can definitely tell gardens had the least amount of dev time LOLLL
With broken ssd
I mean the 'gardens' have mostly potted plants
There's sometimes a tree
sometimes
im moreso sad that it ddidnt get an fps fix like the dimension did
it didnt?
I haven't played in a hot minute so I dunno but I remember it being super fucked
gardens rly is still just a massive issue performance wise
other dimension went from eating frames to typical modern gtfo frame situation
I thought it died
nah
but it got pretty fucked
so
that single crash really fucked my laptop
Desert dimensions are least, no?
💀
You should try again, you won't crash again I believe
Gardens iirc there were barely any indicators beforehand they were working on it
Dimensions had a few hints here and there
I could have sworn as well seeing something similar to it somewhere in an earlier build but I don’t have access to my logs rn
Idk I never invested so much in it, I just play from network alpha and something I know something I don't
Glad you liked it 
I like left 4 dead and similar games, but this was a very unique take on it.
Liked having the option to thin out the hordes while they're asleep by stealthing around 👍
one mistake and they'll all be on you 😨
hell yeah and lets play
Hi, i search russian players
we have russian server
You'll have better chances there
R8E1 done 🤯
not asking for some dumb riot shield but does it not make sense for the prisoners to eventually think of bringing one? or possibly thought of bringing one?
They got given the brain goopies to be mindless slaves
No thinking allowed, plot hole be gone!
i dont think a riot shield would be of much help in a GTFO setting
are servers down?
tuesday
Does anyone play for Geforce Now? When I try to open the game it just stops responding
what does this mean, sorry im brand new and no one can join
steam maintenance
every tuesday
GTFO just dies the tuesdays
lol
ohh kay thank you very much
if the problem still persists head to https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1281414730090811503
hit us with the ol "fuck you, come back tomorrow"
you're a better goat than a certain someone...
WOOAAAHHHHHHHHH
looking to do R8C1 pe if anyone wants to join
I cant
any recommendations for R8C1?
assuming you're going for PE, long range weapons would be nice
Sawed off and scattergun
depends on whether you do PE or not
Grenade launcher
yo wassup
what mods should I use for vanilla gaming, for things like qol
like Ping Everywhere
Cconsole
Esp
cant find it
description says it can only be used if everyone else uses it
Who knows, know
the archive
that one is actually so useful wtf thank you
ye
Realistically, none
If you want actual qol (fixing issues and dealing with bugs) then theres a few like archive (lets you turn off some things to make game not shit itself), shooterbugfix and accuratecrosshair
If you want „qol“ mods (ping everything, ressource helper) then uuh. Thats just not recommended
Wemod
Bitch ass

nointerruptions to unstuck terminals, gluefix to delay the onset of audiobug and remove cfoam hanging in the air, scoutscreamfix to not have scouts bug out and break game, nodoorcheese to enjoy pubs without someone deciding to make the run boring, freethyself to unstuck self after getting pinned between shelves, fasterbotcheese to yeet and bring back bots when they refuse to scan, shooterbugfix to delete the fell-thru-floor objects .. .. what else..
pingconsumables with just the resourcepack position fix to make a moved resourcepack pingable in the right place instead of its initial location (ammo in zone 0 let's go there.. it's not here damnit)
True qol
no-more-cocoons (audiobug), nobotfriendlyfire (bots scan extraction) .. .. qol improved for a while.
Door foam fix so your foam won't be eaten from other side....
good one! doorenemyfix. gold.
Foam thieves are so annoying
And they don't even foam themselves sometimes with all that foam
for visual qol, honorable mentions, cleanscopes, nodustparticles, even legacyfogsystem if u liked visuals of og r5 and older
I think no dust also gives fps boost 
i feel like no bot friendly fire sounds very un-qol
Friends who used it said they have more fps with it, I just don't care I just crash with this game when I test something lmao
all the other stuff i agree with darkeva, not the gtfo "they intended" per se
i could make nobotff configurable so its only the extraction scan part
but all those others qol do be good
good point
i dont rly use mods at all unless its integrated into modded rundowns
But theres def a good few fixes like this
one could even make betterbots so it would only do the combat-bigpickup-carry part nothing else
that is a serious qol boost
r7c2 before the ladder fix was fun. now it's not. r2e1.....
Yeah modded fixes are very good, genshin flashlights too Kappa
alltho running r2e1 with multi-bots is not necessarily the "intended way", noted
tbf running any level with 3 bots is unintended
even better: bots that attempt to break line of sight from tanky
heh, i can imagine some arena tile and the bot goes see ya 😄 😄

where is my @topaz lichen best(big creep) yamato full vitality main bullet sponge rubber band bullets soul horder no impact solo laner going to complete brazil skip with me?
bruh - your supposed to be studying stop playing games
Playing games is the studying
I see this guy in gtfo lobbies more often than he inhales 😔 ur degree isn't going to complete itself!
racists in my vc
wow, wish I got to meet race car drivers
i hear that they say nice car to each other
i love it when i got shot from 60 to zero by team
🤓
i support people who gatekeep this game from newbies
i try my best
i love it too because your reaction is funny
You really expected them to tho?
yeah I think it was peak
spamming nice and well done is just boringgg
Well when an OG cheese spot is still there in Alt ...
maybe they left it there
because they were afraid we couldn't pass that scan part
You know what: fair
or maybe it's that they never really touched enemy pathing or fixed it being fucked up on certain tiles
they just dont fix cheese spots
it was low on their priority list
they didnt want people reporting them in BH
throwback to first message on server
me who has less than 20 hours in the past 2 weeks
🗣️🔥‼️💯
Is burst cannon good for moms or tanks
is the server lag rn?
there is no server
game is p2p so no
this game is peer to peer

@lost lynx
were new anyone wanna help r1a1
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Turn it off
Can't, too far away
Do what I do and put up curtains, and sleep during the day
Helps
After all, if you can't turn off the sun, you can just ignore it
I'm in a park :((
japan
innit
One day i shall escape to the bountiful europe
when people say "im going to europe" they never mean the UK
anyone need an extra player for gtfo rn?
Yeah cause we left smh
will there be an update soonish?
No
i cant tell from their social media
There are no more updates
Yes guys the TRUE end of GTFO will be released with Rundown 12, stay tuned
You just don't know, there will be underwater level with hydro scooters
Why do you reply with the same response after multiple others have already answered 💀
Because i can
Freedom of ||deez||

Thats u right now
Hello Simon
hey Pablo are u gay
hmm
They just said no updates for the foreseeable future
We just gotta become like the tf2 community
I mean, we got a couple of blue moon updates as well with some minor bug fixes
Rot? Like corpses? Like infected? Like strikers?
My friend said my cat was bulky and then said bulk? Like bulkhead?
Im actually going insane
Walk around for a local park for a day, get your mind off the game
how's your mom doing
Shes sleeping
ok I hope you don't wake her up
the idea that TF2 gets more update than GTFO
is just
DAMN.
Still no heavy update
Hevy
hvy
Guys how do i beat R1C1
should i buy game
If You like hard games yes
This game is really coop focused and really high difficulty
Thanks Simon
High difficulty is a cope
Ok
ima solo it good idea right?
Yeaaaaaah the game is actually impossible to solo

shit
So just solo it until you make it to the hard part
you can do all of the first 3 rundowns no problem and most of the 4th
I don't think a new person Will get past R1C1
Probs not but
alr
i think a lot of the fun of this game comes from learning by doing
like sure you could watch scaler's tutorials and one shot half hte gmae but wheres the fun in that
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like hel rifle is useful (especially for hybrids). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
i had to open up my text file
I think it's important to remember the old warden statistics back when most of the playerbase was new. Rundown completions were sub 20%
It'd likely be the same for the average newbie
tbh when they posted those weapon pick stats way back when i thought the special picks were wild
like how was sniper third, it was pretty decent in its niche but it didn't perform terribly well on levels that didnt have giant spam
Skill
I too remember the stats published as part of marketing
I personally liked it
I liked it when they posted rundown clear stats so I could see how much I inflated the clear rate
That ad just spat in my mouth and dared me to do better, no choice but play ez
The stats are blotted
yup
Sucks to suck
and speedrunners and tour guides
Have a decent impact of level clear rates ngl
Like it is kinda crazy
although I do wonder how many people play the game that arent on the official server
they wouldn’t in other games with 100000 samples but we don’t that N
yeah but I wanna know how much the other communities impact the clear rates
cause I feel like the people here (anyone who lfgs in this server) are barely the majority
Would be nice
But r6 (checkpoints) gutted the stats
tbh I think they inflated them towards fails
oh if that's the case then yeah I agree
checkpoints essentially shorten the time it takes to wipe if the team is harddstuck
so with all the rampant checkpoint spam in og r6 then yeah its gonna be inflated
How do you think 10cc got the wipe stats do you think it is a point in the level vs attempt number graph
I think it is a point in the level vs attempt number surely it is the best way of showing that type of data
you're throwing shade at people who don't read this chat
well I am throwing shade in so many directions
It is also making fun of 10cc data collection
shows up
“I think you both dumb”
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
We know dragon
He isn’t one for wanting to think to much more of a man of action
Weapon balance discussion and speedrun drama are his two favourite subjects
for some reason i cannot see shadow enemies with flashlight, they are just entire invisible. is that a bug? (my shadow quality is high)
Damn you cannot see the invisible enemy
Das crazy
Not even their shadow in the floor?

yes nothing
i died already lol
Its probably room ligthing fucking him up
Yeah
i can see their silhouette the brief moment i turn on the flashlight
It happens
but then the silhouette disappear
Verify you game cache just in case
is there a run i can meet shadow enemies at the first few rooms so i can check if its fixed
havent unlock that yet
r5d2, r1d1 if u go rlly fast i guess [like 20 mins or something], r6d3, r2c1 first uplink which is like 4 mins to get to it
uhh yes
k thx
alr
less than 12
either badger's friends or the same 3 people who keep matchmaking r7e1
Hello! Me and 2 other newer players looking for someone to join us as our 4th. Other new players are welcome and we play around 11:30 Pacific Daylight Time DM me to get my attention
GET BACK TO HELLDIVERS
lol
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Saying what time you play is meaningless if you don't include a timezone
Most of us aren't probably from where you're from, despite what you may think
also do you use 12hr clock or 24hr clock
Surely it’s AEST
I never assumed that. Wasn't exactly sure what time zone I am so I added the "9:00 at time of message" to it
Bro doesn’t know some countries have multiple time zones
You’ll get all of me soon
no perms
oh
😔
Play it
@mellow hedge you're biased because you're a scatter goon, opinion is wrong
Goon
Goon
Hel Revo/BC unless in the example we include the user being a crackshot, then Hel revo/Hel Gun
ehhh
For some reason my mind goes to stuff like R5B1, long bridge with BBCs running towards me
With the right timing I could kill 2 with scatter
But the point is that sometimes you WANT the range
Just take hel rifle
someone pls enlighten me how hell revo should be used
it's weaker than the side arm revolver
Headshot body shot
that's a special
It’s the best main weapon in the game
You hit head then the body
It pens
It reloads very fast
guess I gotta practice more with it then
i've just been using the carbine, I'm used to when that was the meta
Carbine still pretty good
It's not that it ain't, it's just "low ceiling, high floor" gun
Also learn to reload cancel with hel revo
id consider hel shotgun to be slightly more braindead than revo
Problem is that you CAN use an hel shotty wrong
Hel revo is pretty intuitive... hit head, hit body, done
What's the bad way of using hel revo? Either missing or not shooting at all...
when is the GTFO tv series releasing?
i mean based on the poll id obviously assume the guns are being used right
I'd join your lobby but R4B3 is one of the most boring PEs ever invented
cause otherwise hel gun and bc falls off so hard if were considering the average pub is using it
and scatter to an extent, people are so scared of just shooting enemies for some reason
yes I also made that statement
devs are in talks with ryan reynolds for his role as woods
ur shittin me?
it does take skill to be efficient with bc in all scenarios but it doesnt take being a crackshot to get insane value from hel gun imo. My point being both guns are misused by most anyways.
Im just not sure which id consider between scatter or hel gun to be more beneficial cause they fill very different roles
no ive never lied
eh 3 burst BC is kinda forgiving IMHO
ngl this is why I like the meta in this game
Considering there's cases in which you need some stuff dead fast, BC does fine
Killing tank with BC is also fine
It's a fine special, I take it rarely because I usually prefer CS for killing smalls or HEL Rifle to deal with chargers
speed isnt considered, just for an average clear
eh...
(ignore kraken)
I mean if from "most meta" we go to the "if you need to have all 4 players pick the same guns"
I'd say it become a bit of a different argument
yeah just putting it out there since you cant really compare the two fairly
Well...
I guess you could use a main that's decent enough to kill fliers and damage kraken...
So yeah 4 scatters would definitively be viable and you could delete tanks ASAP
And scatter is technically easier to use
and youre probably running one hel autopistol for nightmare alarms
yeah yeah of course you'd want to fight someone who's (almost) a woman (but not quite)
scatter unfortunately is bullshit fucking busted but i prefer playing with BC
so i play with BC more
simple
BC>>> Scattergay
BC is still very good at big/boss kills
I rarely pick Scatter because I feel that the Scatter plays me instead of viceversa
It funnels me into the same role wether I like it or not
i probably shouldn't stay around to argue i gotta be ready and go out to do an exam
shoot the mom scatter boy
It's not, only your mind restricts you from clearing flyers/normal enemies with scatter
the scatter wave clear goes so hard
how much damage does one pellet do again
4.8
Chill go the fuck to sleep
soon
I don't think you've met the people who play hel revo like it's ar
6 shots per striker...
i feel like missing it's out of a "bad way to use gun" cuz it applies everywhrrr
shotguns sniper scattergun revos pistols autos it doesn't rlly matter
i mean not like "all weapons are good if u aim them well"
i mean more do like "all weapons are badly used if u just miss"
like hel shotty u can use it wrong while still not missing
u can use scattergun on smalls, not miss but still not be efficient
but missing it's just like universal so it doesn't count for "using wrong"
🪑
SHUT UP
Let the chair cook
i think missing can still be a factor when considering certain guns have a long reload time and/or guns that have low ammo capacity, missing a few shots with a hel revo is much less punishing than missing a few shots with a hel rifle or hel shotgun for example
i do agree if we're considering a situation where a player is just missing 95% of their shots tho
cause at that point they might as well not be shooting anyways xd
this would be better in reddit and steam forums because youll find the casual players over there and not the same 20 vets talking shit
Slug/HAR
plays pretty well
Sorry I haven't read up on the new pdf you sent me last weekend
yeah i mean there's a difference of just missing 6/8 shots or just the occasional bullet
that happens to everyone
ill make sure ill send it to your secretary next time
Good, she will read it to me while sitting on my lap
true

@wraith marsh if you decide to do one on reddit, you gotta add meme ones
heavy ar/short rifle
Let me introduce to you, the short rifle. On paper and given to an aimbot, this is like the most broken weapon in the game but it feels like horse shot to use because to use it yo its full potential you literally need to be superhuman, able to click 20 times per second. This is where the macro comes in. You create a macro that when you hold a button, it clicks really fast, mimicking full auto. Don't go overboard with the firing speed. I set mine to fire somewhere between 5 and 10 per second, similar to the assault rifle. Then you bind that button to your most accessible mouse button.
Now you have a weapon that is the most generally ammo efficient in the game with the normal semi auto and then when you switch to full auto, it has up to the highest dps in the game, each bullet dealing more than twice of what the assault rifle does, still with a huge ammo capacity.
The only drawbacks are the somewhat hard to control recoil and half stagger, yet remember it still staggers more per bullet than the assault rifle and pretty much always staggers on heashot. Its also not super great for sniping shooters with early fall off. Deletes both strikers and giants though
that isn't really wrong tbh
thing has 1500rpm, it vomits out damage pretty fast
if you make a macro
very funny gun
Macro is funny and fast. But gtfo
yeah
but it's funny
but at that point just equip scattergun if you're just going to use it like that
hel autopistol enjoyers rise up
scatter is a specialized big killer
hel auto is good
i miss the the prebuff autopistol shit was funny to bring, never running out of ammo
Didn't read the last part. Short rifle is hard to control?
the downside is that if your one stagger guy with the hel autopistol goes down the rest of your team will have a hard time
Iirc. That gun just got a RoF increase
are you just holding down the trigger on machine pistol?
Smth with range as well but negligent to recoil
oh great even more recoil
Tbf: I say just got a RoF buff as in the last time it was buffed like months ago
Nah it's fine
The recoil's fine enough for it being a 50 round auto
dakka dakka dakka
It's in a fairly better state than before. Being almost too comparable to smg
machine pistol recoil is fine
You're not really supposed to be able to hit heads the whole way
And besides, most heads in the game pop before you're done firing anyways
save for the ones that die when their heads pop
HEL PP is full auto and pretty good tbh
Minmaxing headshots with autos is rough in gtfo
MP it's perhaps fun to use but I cant help to feel like I'm wasting bullets
I mean just use pistols on the regular
I mean it does have low ammo refill
So that factors into it
I think it's more fundamental, like what Solace said
Besides. Smg is better for headshots than MP
I wonder if autos that suck would be improved by deleting the recoil altogether
you should be aiming for body shots anyway so you miss less
the heads break so fast anyway
But the problem is still that you're gonna have to minmax the headshots
Smg has iirc the highest Precision multi that's under 1.0x. Next to I only said smg headshots would be better than MPs. Not easy
yeah but there's just better options
but why would you not be trying to do that anyway?
The problem is that autos simply don't have much output
Cue the 7000 modded rundowns increasing damage to a considerable degree and adding pen to make autos competitive
fair
AR / Arby are buffed in practically all modded rundowns
I feel like the game has a lot more guns than situations, too much for its own good
^^^^
I mean just look at the burst pistol
What do you do with the burst pistol?
The only like real merit is that it five bursts a charger with no falloff
I mean I'm either going to shoot an alarm of normals, an alarm of chargers, or an alarm of shadows
And the ttk is awful
The only enemy that spawns in alarms and ain't a "boss" is hybrid
if the alarm is of charger I want something that pens and does considerable damage even at the body
10m - 47m hmm no falloff
can’t get much better than the hel rifle
if the alarm is of shadows I want something with thermal or whatever I can also use in the case of an alarm of normals
There's not really many cases
precision rifle is the only thermal weapon I like
Giants you can kill even without hybrids or whatnot, the only other variable is range AND if there's a boss
Is it really a merit though? Is it better than DTR 3 bursting or DMR/hel revo 4 shotting?
The others feel like the opportunity cost for taking them is just way too steep compared to better guns
There's 2 of them and one is main, so...
Can't even call that a "Merit" ngl. Past like 12m it's not 5 bursts anymore. Even then with BUrst pistols rof. 5 bursts takes kinda long for a single charger
I haven’t played in a hot minute I thought there were others
whoops
still I don’t like the primary one
it doesn't beat the sawed off killing in 1 shot
Fast reload vs Long reload
I'd honestly rather have bullpup than burst pistol
eeeeeh
Bullpup lost quite a bit of its dmg range anyhow
burst pistol actually will let you deal with smalls yourself in cqc
bullpup is banking on your special saving your ass after a mag is empty
Chargers*
or just bat everything to death that didnt die
no sledge is too slow
😔
Bat has a smaller shove range :P
hammer time
and left click is effectively also a shove
size isn't everything...
bat shove animation is also hideous
Bat unironically is only a tad slower than knife iirc (albeit shitty hitbox)
In killing smalls
it also can solo giants pretty easily
the bat?
yeah
Bat can light stagger giants/ limb break with back
Sadly it's the only one that cannot oneshot giants with a yellow Syringe
can it still oneshot charger scouts with the syringe?
No
Wait
With Syringe yes
My brain wooga'd and only went 12 x2
But Syringe is 3x
idk the damage values I just whack
Yellow Syringe makes one hit of your melee within 8 seconds 3x
Bat does 12 full charge
Charger scout 60 hp
2x back
(I only just woke up an hour ago and on way to work rn) 
i might be stupid but i cant figure out how to load the sentries
When the sentry is not placed down, press and hold e on the person who has the sentry
what if i have the sentry
Pick it up, use tool ammo on yourself
Or if it's place, use Ammo on sentry
It's just like giving yourself ammo
Hold e with the tool pack
ohh
You need to use the blue one
alr
👍 alr thx
Sentries use tool for ammo
Mine deployer uses tool for lines
Cfoam launcher uses tool for cfoam
Bioscan uses tool for batteries
gaslighting is fun

yeah well at least i have the premium battlepass
fucking hell
Ah yes, the line deployer
there's a cocaine joke to be made somewhere
deployed that line on your mum's ass. (requested by sleepo)
🤣 not really!
Good fun guys. good fun
Makes any sleepers passing through 2x faster
so real
alguien de habla hispana?
Hola este servidor es principalmente en inglés
Si te interesa tenemos un servidor hispanohablante
asking casual players what they think is meta is a completely diff question than asking vets, I knew who I was asking
also why the fuck would I ever go on the reddit
even less so the steam forums
the Steam forums are something else
Well you would go to the steam from to complain that the discord mods are giving in to the DEI pronoun bullshit
such a silly post
lmao yep
i will insist that i don't have pronouns and i will be happy
not getting involved in that stuff...
im so sad my response got deleted
i saw tyz's response, can you dm me yours (if you remember it)?
also what exactly happened for that one steam post
so true
A scizo patient came here to complain about the us culture war then got banned then proceeded to complain in the steam forums
you reminded me to look at steam forums and they didn't disappoint
Steam forums have worse discussions then discord users
And that is saying something
Wild.
you forgot the r1a1 one :(
R7B3 Main for me But sleeping inside R5A3 Secondary should also be comfy
or the r1b2 one
R5B1 main is fire
protected by giant chargers
r1a1 is there
Because I didnt ask Voxy
sorry...
It's ok
Want the HEL Rifle I used this afternoon?
It smells
no thank you
I'm still mourning mmm
I do miss Mister Man of the mountain
I'd say that my least favourite would be R1A1
they're all non-kino
Imagine you're sleeping and you see 4 hobos with hammers bonking shit around
doesn't sleeping mean you don't see anything
You wake up due to the mess
Then go back to sleep
I'll tell you what
One of the best sensations I ever have
Really, like, top 20
Is waking up during a thunderstorm
Then going back to sleep
It's the damn best
on god
Think about this, Licker
fitting for a guy whose name is centered around sleep
follow my logic for a moment
pills are meds, right?
meds improve health, correct?
now read sleep backwards
*interjects: DEPENDS !!!
pills here!
mmmm onion skin
i am not going to be pedantic
go to pedantic, it's ok
i wouldn't mind going somewhere tropical if i had the right outfit
minor spelling mistake, i am dumb
I was just joking
i know i know
Chat important life decision: tomorrow a guaranteed uber rare banner on a gacha will arrive and I'll have a chance to get a gun dragon. Do I take it
but i genuinely made a mistake but eh whatever i've been up for ages, had an exam, dealt with whatever else
Like every gacha
Roll with your heart
not with meta
I'm rolling bc he looks cool
I guess that counts
I already have some meta units xd
hope you reach pity
no pity mechanic
wtf
i live in a tropical country and half of the fuckers here are wearing multiple layers when its 30+ degrees outside
i couldn't survive like that
You eventually adapt to it
Canadians wearing shorts in winter





