gtfo-chat

[analog flicker]

imean Monster was due to the range

Ichor was just hel revo into chargers

but faster

[upper loom]

Not too bad then ig

Icl idek why I was running hcp i shouldve obviously been running grendal

[analog flicker]

Tbf the only reason I didn't take Rev

was because of the Moms

[upper loom]

Can you kill a cscout with 0.1 hel gun actually?

[analog flicker]

yes

double tap back

[upper loom]

Yeah i was throwing

[analog flicker]

did Yuki Keept grendal 0.1 though ?

i don't think anyone tested it after patch

[upper loom]

Good point

I think its actually 0.2

[analog flicker]

better than 0.3

[upper loom]

fr

[analog flicker]

[upper loom]

0.1 hel gun makes me feel some type of way

Completely melts giants

[pine root]

There

Hate to say it

But 0.2

Is still insane

Beth was still also correct about 0.3 probs still one of the best guns in the game

Other games you are waiting double for this most of the time 0.6 at least

[analog flicker]

ye

[unreal crystal]

I’m so comfortable with 0.2 now ngl jish

I got the quick draw down

[unreal crystal]

You can kill it with 0.2 and 0.3 btw

[mystic moss]

with each increase in milliseconds making it progressively harder to double tap cscouts as host

another W for clients

i may need superhuman reaction speeds to dodge striker tongues as client

but at least i have silent shooting

i love gaslighting ppl into thinking they woke up the room when in reality it was just me silent shooting into a proxi aggro

[fossil horizon]

Silent shooting as host is more fun, and after asking "why this shit doesn't work"

[pallid anvil]

Sorry

[daring ginkgo]

Is it possible to shoot 2 burst cannon shots into scout in quick succession? Or he will scream after 1st burst?

[fossil horizon]

He will scream

Although you need only 1 burst in the back

If it's about charger scouts

[daring ginkgo]

Trying to catch and oneshot c scout in second room on r5d2 is very hard, i guess i will just wake up room, quickly kill chargers, close door behind, mine it and prepare to defend

[upbeat yacht]

i've never found it in second room 😮

[junior latch]

Front @daring ginkgo

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, 1 burst deal 63 or 66 dmg, c scout have 60 hp

But god damn, this mfer just not gonna stay close to door

But burst cannon rly good on this lvl, thanks for advice to pick it, i feel like i can reach 3rd code hunt more stable

Although lvl 10 alarm is kinda dangerous, cause bigger chance to friendly fire bots with it xd

[blissful dome]

are we not gonna talk about the sniper sentry placement?

:3

you know what you did

how many times did it shoot us

im genuinely curious

oh yea and the time i dogmaed you by accident :3

[fossil horizon]

smh I was in the world of bc with 15 damage per shot

I forgot that vanilla has 22 now

[honest parrot]

Is Calle available rn?
Or is he still on vacation?

[fossil horizon]

why would you need him?

[honest parrot]

Someone might need to ping him soon so might as well ask rn

Tech support

[fossil horizon]

Everything about game was answered ages ago

And about bugs

[honest parrot]

Oh no playfab isn't something community tech support can deal with

Cause you know

[fossil horizon]

If they can't connect to playfab severs then they should ask ISP about what da fuck their internet

[honest parrot]

I mean he's in the modded server's tech support forum rn

If you think that would help tell it to his face

[fossil horizon]

Why would I care? You care too much about every tech support everywhere

[honest parrot]

ye tru

[fossil horizon]

Restart game - get better internet connection and other stupid and common stuff just do everything and after that go fuck your ISP

Or blame urself for having closed network and router in the way that blocks everything, like if Playfab down yes it's fault not on your side or if steam dead, but others are commonly on the side of user

[lyric spoke]

R1c1 is easier when your not trying to solo with bots

[analog flicker]

The fact there's a copypasta for groups struggling with R1C1 in general.

[daring ginkgo]

All reactors is fun with real people
With bots it is 💀

[lyric spoke]

Literally i cleared it last night because i had teammates

[lost lynx]

Someone said R1C1 copypasta?

[daring ginkgo]

Unironically, easiest reactor with bots for me was on one of the earlier lvls on r5 as secondary obj, cause no code hunting and reactor room filled with resources

[rose nova]

r5b1?
not even r1c1?

b1 ov has like bbcs and shit

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, but i already knew power of hel rifle and sniper turrets, which i ignored while i was new

• you dont have to run through whole lvl for resources on r5

[lyric spoke]

Bbcs?

[daring ginkgo]

Automatically better experience

[rose nova]

still seems like c1 would be like a lot easier kdmskd

[wary chasm]

big beautiful chargers

[rose nova]

but well idk

[lyric spoke]

Sounds unpleasant but manageable

[daring ginkgo]

I did r1c1 and r3 lvl with reactor with real people when i was new, so i cant say much about them, but i remember well r2d2 and all reactors on r4 and r5, so yeah, r5b1 was easiest xd

Time limit on code hunting is very stressful, when you play with bots

I just remember, that r1c1 is literally huge corridor, and you have to run through it between waves for resources, not very fun

Also, i got code on first terminal on r5d2 first code hunt in like 8th attempt, yay, rng

Such a big difference, if code on first terminal, you had like 2 whole minutes left, so you can easily collect resources around, but if it is on second terminal, you have to literally push like a maniac, and have like 10-20 seconds left when you put code on reactor

On one attempt i had 2 seconds left

[lyric spoke]

Damn

[daring ginkgo]

Bot gaming is hard, because game not designed around it

[honest parrot]

Most of the time

[vagrant veldt]

There was a code hunt on R66 where you are in thicc fog, cannot see, and also pressed for time. It was pretty good. R1C1 is kinda boring to me honestly. R2D2 best reactor.

R2D2 is fun.

[mellow hedge]

R4E1 best reactor 😎

[jagged citrus]

i love big black chargers

[daring ginkgo]

Idk about reactor lvls on r6 and further, but i agree, so far r4e1 was the most enjoyable (if you do code hunting)

[slender flare]

R8E2

i love that one

[mellow hedge]

R8E2 is pretty good

[honest parrot]

I mean the reactor isn't too awful
the beginning is usually where someone stubs their toe and die

assuming the timer doesn't run out

[mellow hedge]

If the timer runs out ur a goober

[honest parrot]

I mean you really shouldn't know what happens when it runs out

[mellow hedge]

Beat the level with nightmare surge

[mystic moss]

what's the strat

[slender flare]

thet's the best way tbh

[robust dawn]

R5D2 better

[mellow hedge]

Win

[pine root]

Long kite

[burnt flume]

I think you scattergun/hel rifle everything, permafoam, and kill kraken

maybe you'd need boosters

[unreal crystal]

i cant let you have it

[daring ginkgo]

Fuck this lvl

[vagrant veldt]

I never did R5D1 and R5D2. Yet. I need that and R8B3, R8E2. That is it.

[jagged citrus]

you did it with bots your'e biased

[daring ginkgo]

what, no, WIP 💀

i am still stuck on this goddamn codehunting misery

i have another strat for tomorrow - just fcking blast second room on third codehunt,no matter if i kill c. scout or no, i just close door behind, mine it and defend inside

[wraith marsh]

Why not just mine that room

Atp

Much safer

[daring ginkgo]

idk what is worse

• pull second room, close door and mine it
• pull second room, kill enemies inside, close door behind , mine it and def

like 1 mine vs bbcs is not very helpful i suppose

but i will try this strat too, if i fail my first variant

i got to second room only 3 times so far

[jagged citrus]

just melee hte bbcs

[upper loom]

brings them to half hp, it's helpful enough

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[junior latch]

You have more room to move around if you stay in 1st room

[jagged citrus]

bring three trip mine damage boosters

[upper loom]

omg yes

genius

[daring ginkgo]

i was just extra greedy and tried to oneshot c. scout on previous attempts

[daring ginkgo]

bruh

[jagged citrus]

👍

[pine root]

You talking about 3rd code

[daring ginkgo]

i'd rather pick one booster for main gun to one shot strikers with hel revo in head

[pine root]

With bots right?

[daring ginkgo]

yeah

[jagged citrus]

counterpoint: mine damage funi

[vagrant veldt]

DOUBLE mine!

[pine root]

Ngl you have to kill the room

[jagged citrus]

TRIPLE MINE

[upper loom]

genius

[daring ginkgo]

oh, for sure i have to kill everything inside

[jagged citrus]

you said you had burst cannon right?

[daring ginkgo]

yes

[pine root]

that isn’t how that part is played

With players tho

[jagged citrus]

bbcs shouldnt be a problem, yeah?

[pine root]

We split

[daring ginkgo]

i dont understand, how to clear this zone with people tbh

even if you split

[jagged citrus]

gun

[daring ginkgo]

room just PACKED with chargers

[pine root]

You stealth it

[vagrant veldt]

No, harsh language.

[jagged citrus]

use more gun

[daring ginkgo]

• c.scout roaming

[pine root]

the second room can be either destroyed by a scatter gun

Or a hel rilfe

and the first room is a big room with lots of room

[jagged citrus]

idk just get to the cscout, burst cannon it, get to a defensible position, bc all the bbcs

[pine root]

You don’t need to kill anything

[jagged citrus]

i should clarify i have yet to actually play r5d2

[pine root]

Na

The room sucks

[jagged citrus]

sure sounds like it

we love charagers

[pine root]

Tbh I think that dark needs some type of triple sentry strat for first room

Second room should be free tbh

[jagged citrus]

its a reactor so presumably triple turret already, right?

[pine root]

but with bots this is very difficult

[pine root]

Na you bring mines

[jagged citrus]

you would know better than i

[pine root]

your also tool starved

[daring ginkgo]

nah, bio + mine + 2 sentries is the only way i feel

[pine root]

Mines only for blood door?

[daring ginkgo]

3 doors on lvl 10 alarm room, 1 on blood door, 1 on second code hunt

[pine root]

That isn’t a lot of mines

[daring ginkgo]

first big door in 2nd code hunt, cause while i am pushing ahead, new reactor wave spawns, so i am using cfoam grenade and mine on this door to stall

[pine root]

Ah see

There is a split there as well

With players or even duo

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, i saw video guides, 2nd and 3rd code hunts is splits

[pine root]

Is the tru solo a giant kite?

[jagged citrus]

i fail to see how it could be anything else

[daring ginkgo]

probably, like usual

there a lot of giants

in respawn zone

[pine root]

Could be c foam ladder

[jagged citrus]

do cocoons respawn if you're at spawn cap?

[pine root]

you would spawn cap with the cocoon giants

[jagged citrus]

yeah but if you're already at spawn cap do they continue to respawn

[daring ginkgo]

but one thing to mention, how to complete lvl 10 alarm with giant kiting

[pine root]

Ye

[daring ginkgo]

this lvl is not so big actually

[pine root]

You just need to make any type of positive progress on the alarm

then you can do it forever

[daring ginkgo]

i mean, for example, you do 1-2 scans, and giants come to big room, what next? lure them into additional zones ( one with cell ), then kite them back to beginning of the lvl,then you go to room with scans? but idk how to avoid giants omw to room with scans, not a lot of space around to hide from giants attacks

[jagged citrus]

you just need some cover so you can duck back and forth and stack them up, and then run past them without dying

[daring ginkgo]

or move them around respawn zone rooms

[jagged citrus]

although wait

wouldnt the bots just shoot the giants/

[daring ginkgo]

we talking about true solo

[jagged citrus]

ah

then yeahj

make the giants at the front lick to slow them down, stack the boys up, carry a medkit so you dont get licked and die

run past the giants somehow

go stand in circle

[daring ginkgo]

lets watch solo gods videos, both hinoki and t-nenpi had those

i am curious

[jagged citrus]

gtfo r5d2 solo watch party ‼️

[daring ginkgo]

damn, t-nenpi just soloed first lvl 5 alarm with sniper gun ( pre-nerfed ), what a chad

i though he will start kiting immediately

[junior latch]

In 20 min with 1200 dmg

[daring ginkgo]

t-nenpi did this whole lvl legit without kiting

[pine root]

Wow

[mystic moss]

lol it's easy just click on the bad guys

[jagged citrus]

with sniper?

against bbcs?

what a legend

[daring ginkgo]

pre-nerfed sniper + dmr

[mystic moss]

I miss og r6 sniper

[pine root]

How many solo levels are much harder now that sniper is 2 in mag

You just take BC surely

[daring ginkgo]

and hinoki did this lvl legit too

[pine root]

crazy players

[daring ginkgo]

fr

[jagged citrus]

does kiting make it illegitimate

[mystic moss]

no it makes it boring to watch

[slender flare]

well to some degree yes i suppose (okay nvm)

[jagged citrus]

real

[daring ginkgo]

yeah,i mean without any kinda of cheese mechanics, like giant kiting imo

lmao, hinoki run is much more scuffed, he aggroed all scouts omw to 3rd code and used no boosters 💀

[fringe garden]

kiting is cheese but it's the only way to do some levels true solo, so sometimes it's the most legitimate clear available

[daring ginkgo]

imo for true solo you can do whatever you want, except using game bugs or exploits

[worthy flicker]

so like, what making kiting cheese? i just view ti as good movement

[daring ginkgo]

idk if giant kiting is on any of those categories tho

[worthy flicker]

i could ofc have the wrong impression of it

[daring ginkgo]

by this way you block new enemies spawns

[fringe garden]

spawncap kiting nullifies aspects of some levels

[daring ginkgo]

like reactors

[pine root]

Kiting isn’t cheese

[daring ginkgo]

or outrageous r5c2 ov

[wraith marsh]

its just boring

[worthy flicker]

i think id have a hard time calling kiting cheese still

[wraith marsh]

its not as hard as you would think either

[worthy flicker]

kiting just seems like good mechanical knowledge and movement to me which i find hard to qualify as cheese

[daring ginkgo]

like wtf is this 😂

https://youtu.be/1orQgYizk-g?t=1923

you completely break overload sector

[split onyx]

Steam problem are fixed or not?

Guys?

[daring ginkgo]

seems like it

[mystic moss]

will I be able to long kite out of a mental asylum

click to watch

don't forget to like and subscribe

today guys I trapped 1000 prisoners in the complex

and now i'm gonna activate a surge alarm

last prisoner to survive gets an aggressive booster

[worthy flicker]

sounds like youre feeding prisoners to sleepers

[mystic moss]

no it's called selective philanthropy stupid

[jagged citrus]

hey guys mr beast here, i trapped 1000 contestants in a room with pablo, last one out gets a spot in the last hydrostasis uniut

[mystic moss]

real talk what are the sleepers doing to you when they dmg you

am I being slapped by a striker tongue

or is it biting me

wtf is a shooter projectile

a spore?

surely it can't hurt that much

[analog flicker]

How much does a striker giant lift?

Mf slaps for 40%

[empty sorrel]

Honestly the tongues could be licking you with acid or as you said just slapping you around a bit (with too much force)
Shooter projectiles are most likely acid spores like you would find on bloaters in the last of us
Or spikes make of bone or other tissue like with necromorphs from dead space

[mystic moss]

rad

[analog flicker]

If you ever got giant tongued to the face. You'll vaguely be able to see the sharp teeth all around the tip of the tongue

[jagged citrus]

if you look closely at the tongues they still have the teeth on them

like the giant bifurcated face mouth

teeth

[burnt flume]

i love getting lacerated

[jagged citrus]

stuff

is on the end of the tongues

so in theory it's biting

[mystic moss]

omg they're kissers???

[jagged citrus]

TIME TO UPDATE THE WIKI

[analog flicker]

So

[jagged citrus]

they just give you hickeys

[analog flicker]

The Tank has 3 mouths to kiss

3 at the same time

[jagged citrus]

can you imagine getting sloppy from a tank

unreal dome

[mystic moss]

threesome !!

[analog flicker]

Snatcher sloppy moment

[jagged citrus]

what that proboscis do

[analog flicker]

Hand me that Proboscis

"But sir that's a parasitic abomination"

[jagged citrus]

there's no laws against the sleepers, batman

you already know what i'm gonna do to that thing

[signal plaza]

holy shit this is the first time I check this server in a while and this is what I see

[jagged citrus]

with a name like that i dont think you're allowed to be upset

[junior latch]

Completely avoiding game mechanics by walking around the map with giants is definetly cheese and borderline an exploit

[worthy flicker]

see, in my mind you can still die doing this

[jagged citrus]

they should like triple giant walk speed so you can't kite anymore]

[worthy flicker]

just make all giants BBCs instead

[unique ginkgo]

sussy

[jagged citrus]

amongus???

[junior latch]

people die with door bug

people die with ladder foam

people die with shooter bug

all of them are still different levels of exploits or heavy cheese

[worthy flicker]

tbf im also not sure i qualify ladder foam as an exploit im ngl

like door bug is straight cheating

[junior latch]

it is quite litteraly in the name

you exploit

[worthy flicker]

but ladder foam only lasts for x period of time and like, i dont nessecarily understand how its functionally different from foaming into a good choke point

[junior latch]

ladder foam exploits smth unintentional

[jagged citrus]

i mean

[junior latch]

kiting exploits smth intentional in an unintentional way

[jagged citrus]

i guess it depends

ladderfoaming is taking advantaged of poorly coded enemy ai

but in theory, closing one door and leaving another open falls under the same category

[modern coral]

You're using two different meanings of exploit.

[burnt flume]

you should see the r4e1 wr

[fossil horizon]

Players think something is unintentional and something is intentional smh

[modern coral]

Door bug is not an exploit in the sense that ladder foam is exploiting something.

[junior latch]

choke point foam gets used up by all enemies, enemies can still be pushed forward
ladder foam blocks off enemies from going through into the foam aswell

[burnt flume]

I love foaming ladder and setting fps to 20 to intentionally stall enemies for 3+ minutes

[unreal crystal]

you gain such an advantage with ladder foam vs like

foaming a door or foaming ground

[jagged citrus]

its like the fnaf 1 thing

set it to 1 fps and the game plays itself

[burnt flume]

it's effectively a timegated doorbug that requires you sacrifice some tool %

[worthy flicker]

This games animations fps based?

[burnt flume]

more lag/less frames = ladder foam lasts longer

if you open every door in r4e1 and kill all the enemies, the foam lasts much shorter

[worthy flicker]

This game is so fuckin weird

[worthy flicker]

I guess

I just don't view it as incredibly heinous I suppose.

Scummy? Sure. Full on exploit? Idk man.

[burnt flume]

it is literally

like

having a door bugged

in half the cases

[junior latch]

people underestimate how busted it is

and how much exploiting it warps the game

[worthy flicker]

Alright so like

In detail

Why does ladderfoam stop enemies entirely as opposed to floor foam?

Can they not move past eachother on a ladder like they would on the floor or something?

[junior latch]

limited amount of enemies can be on a ladder

plus they block off the entrance to the ladder

[worthy flicker]

So they freeze on the ladder

[junior latch]

so theres like 1-4 enemies on it
vs multiple eating up foam

again and again

also they go down the ladder slower if you are 2+ rooms away

or rather

it updates slower

[worthy flicker]

Which in turn causes them to move slower.

Hm.

Alright I'll reconsider my definition of ladder foam as not cheating. No promises tho.

Hypothetically couldn't they fix this by adding more ladders?

[jagged citrus]

i categorize exploiting and cheating as two different things

[junior latch]

in a way, if you are able to completely avoid a game mechanic, then thinking off it as an exploit isnt far off

[worthy flicker]

Idk, depends on use context?

[junior latch]

hence long kiting intentionally in solos being similar

[jagged citrus]

ladderfoaming is definitely exploiting but i wouldnt qualify it as cheating

[worthy flicker]

Exploiting can be cheating, cheating can be exploiting

[junior latch]

can

cheese can be exploiting, exploiting can be cheating
cheese can be cheating, doesnt have to be

long kiting and ladder foam are cheap

people unironically said before that since they are in the game theyd be intentional by the devs (no)

[jagged citrus]

exploiting in my mind is using poorly coded game mechanics/otherwise using things in the game in an unintended way
cheating in my mind is using external tools that give you an unfair advantage

[vagrant veldt]

I have never seen foaming ladder as cheating or using litches or cheese. You are just using mechanics in the game that are supposed to be there.

[jagged citrus]

ehh i dont think the devs intended for it

but they havent fixed it

[worthy flicker]

Some things are mechanics, some things warp mechanics, some things break mechanics.

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, to that end do we know if they intentionally left it or not?

Unintentional and unwanted after the fact are imo seperate things

[fringe garden]

they haven't fixed doorbug despite it being known for years and they for sure don

t intend that to be in game

[worthy flicker]

That's fair

[junior latch]

yeea, they arent supposed to be there lol

[worthy flicker]

I suppose some things also can't be fixed without breaking other things.

[mystic moss]

what if we reframed the argument about "is x an exploit" instead as "is x fun to do and play with"

[jagged citrus]

i think ladderfoam is ok if your whole team is ok with it

like who cares

play the game the way you want

[vagrant veldt]

I use it mostly on R2E1 not much else I don't recall.

[worthy flicker]

My answer to that question is the correlation between ladderfoam and how fun it is directly increases in proportion to how many R2E1 pubs you've just done. On the first run? Not fun. On the eighth? Very fun.

[burnt flume]

you're cheating yourself out of experiencing any semblance of normal gameplay

r2e1 pubs are more fun when you don't ladder foam

less dead space

less cringing

boy I sure do love walking across the room 3 times to do scans and only seeing 5 strikers, that really gets my neurons racing

[mystic moss]

hel weapons are an exploit

[worthy flicker]

Can't argue with that one

[jagged citrus]

is running sawed off/hel rifle an exploit

[worthy flicker]

Yes

[burnt flume]

yes

[jagged citrus]

have you considered getting tested for adhd

[mystic moss]

what if p*bs are struggling because they aren't using busted weapons

[burnt flume]

you're exploiting your lack of skill but still killing everything

[vagrant veldt]

I never liked sawed off. Just a very up close boom boom.

[jagged citrus]

what if pubs are struggling because two of them refuse to switch off sniper

[burnt flume]

nope!

[jagged citrus]

thats the best part about it

[vagrant veldt]

I just take HEL shotty at all times.

[mystic moss]

like is the p*b running burst pistol / arbalist more skilled than a vet using hel gun / hel revo

[burnt flume]

I mean I've heard the entire thing, people thinking I might be autistic, I might have ADHD, why did no-one ever tell me they think I could be trans

[worthy flicker]

I mean unironically I watched my new friends go from using shit like slug shotgun short rifle to shit like carbine scattergun and they quite literally immediately improved in the not dying category.

[burnt flume]

why did i have to figure that part out on my own

[jagged citrus]

idk ask trans people

im cis, i have no idea what symptoms of transness look like

excuse me?

automod?

the fuck?

as an aut*st, however, im relatively good at spotting those

[vagrant veldt]

Donning a skinsuit would qualify.

[jagged citrus]

dude

why is aut*st illegal

autistic

[mystic moss]

rude

[worthy flicker]

I have no idea, I've been automodded for calling myself one like 4 times

[jagged citrus]

i can say autistic but can't say aut*st

[burnt flume]

because people have used that to demean each other I guess

[jagged citrus]

being called autistic is a compliment

[mystic moss]

i am autists

[burnt flume]

it's online gamer culture

[mystic moss]

the plural works

[vagrant veldt]

Automod AI detects mailicious intent. Naughty boi.

[mystic moss]

I am saved

[burnt flume]

nobody is going to call you autistic as a compliment

[worthy flicker]

Autistic (endearing)

[jagged citrus]

i take it as one

anyway i was half joking

[worthy flicker]

Pal (derogatory)

[mystic moss]

goat (insulting)

[jagged citrus]

lack of stimulation comment = adhd joke

hel rifle user (derogatory)

[vagrant veldt]

I am actually legally a well regarded individual and Discord tends to autmod that as well. I think they use cut and paste lists of no no words on most servers.,

[latent orbit]

womp womp

vozy remember to log in arknights !!!!

[mystic moss]

I'm voxy now

[latent orbit]

oh my bad

still...

[jagged citrus]

wait

are u serious

deadass i thought vozy and voxy were two different people this whole time

[burnt flume]

💔

[latent orbit]

what?

[jagged citrus]

i dont know man

[mystic moss]

they might as well be tbh

[burnt flume]

i bet you also thought goat and pachi were two different people

[jagged citrus]

i have no idea who pachi is

[mystic moss]

HAHA

[jagged citrus]

i feel like ive been made a fool of and i dont lijke that

[mystic moss]

no I'm laughing at goat

[latent orbit]

what have you been playing vozy

so bored

i lack dopamine baddd

[jagged citrus]

same

[mystic moss]

I'm just waiting for monster hunter wilds

[jagged citrus]

my place of work leaked sulfuric acid all over half the floor so the place im supposed to be surveying is off limits

ive been sitting here for five hours

[latent orbit]

hop on

[mystic moss]

osha violation

[latent palm]

always were

[jagged citrus]

sometimes i wonder

[latent palm]

idk why you say youre hated by ppl

[mystic moss]

always was*, I'm a singular entity

[latent orbit]

boohoo

dumbass got corrected

[latent palm]

autocorrect

[jagged citrus]

thats what the government wants us to think

[latent palm]

oh its you again

[latent orbit]

womp womp

bruhh voxy

[mystic moss]

I wish autocorrect could fix how annoying you are

[latent orbit]

why didnt you log in arknights

i could have always done that for u for free !!!

[latent palm]

[burnt flume]

stop harassing my husband

[latent orbit]

...

i just felt like that i were in a parasocial relationship with him

[mystic moss]

high key I literally don't remember if I logged on arknights

[latent orbit]

so i gotta do something for him

[latent orbit]

😔

[mystic moss]

like I'll think I did my dailies when i actually didnt

[latent orbit]

r6s banner will arrive soon

[mystic moss]

i'm an alzheimers patient in the making

[latent orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138487794038218774/1272265453036638319/unknown.gif

its ok

its the youth's responsibility to take care of old people

[mystic moss]

rolling for tachanka

[latent orbit]

u can hand me ur account !!!

[mystic moss]

mfer I don't trust you

[latent orbit]

wwomp womp

you can log in mine rn

YOU MUST TRUST ME

[mystic moss]

you fell for a discord phish

[latent orbit]

are we friends

womp womp

[mystic moss]

no we're married stupid

[latent orbit]

i fell for a unlimited orginium arknights apk

...

[mystic moss]

classic

[latent orbit]

ok i got it back actually

[fallen warren]

i dont get sth, we are in 3 ppl and matchmake for 1 more person, why do we join their mission instead of them joining ours?

[jagged citrus]

cuz in game matchmaking is stupid

dont use it

[latent orbit]

the real problem was me not being able to access my gmail

[jagged citrus]

honestly i genuinely dont know the answer to your question lmao, in game matchmaking is so shit i never use it

just use the lfg channels

[mystic moss]

how did they steal ur Gmail homie

[latent orbit]

malware

they stole my github account too

also my pixiv

[fallen warren]

if i set it to players and bots is there probability someone will join during mission then?

[mystic moss]

LOL they stole ur art account

[latent orbit]

womp womp

[jagged citrus]

not unless they have the lobby code

[fallen warren]

bullshit ngl

[latent orbit]

ok

login my arknights account rn

i trust you

why cant you trust me too !!!

[jagged citrus]

which they should only have if you post it as an lfg here

[mystic moss]

what no, stop asking

[latent orbit]

fine

thought we were real arknights friends

😤

[mystic moss]

I'm only using you for the typhon support unit tbh

and more credit income

[latent orbit]

i have ur linkedin !

[mystic moss]

but I'm jobless ;(

[latent palm]

unemployed you mean

[latent orbit]

wtf whenever i ask you for a game you said you had been working

[latent palm]

there so many ppl wana hire you

[latent orbit]

😢

[mystic moss]

that was a lie to make you go away

[pine root]

I am needing to explain to my boss

How outlook works

wtf

[latent orbit]

ur boss must have been a boomer

[mystic moss]

and you're not even going to get a raise

[latent orbit]

womp womp

[pine root]

My tech department apparently has switched her google account to an outlook one

And it has

Broken her

Seems like this is her r8e2

[mystic moss]

tell her how to doorbug then

[pine root]

I put her email on the favourite bar

And it is auto signed in

All she needs to do

Is hit 3 buttons

[mystic moss]

telling her to use perfect boosters works too ig

[latent orbit]

...

[pine root]

It helps her

[latent orbit]

@mystic moss where are u

[mystic moss]

at work

[latent orbit]

i created a public lobby hop on

didnt you say that you were unemployed

[mystic moss]

that was a lie

[latent orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856277171302826046/1267421802968383488/togif.gif

[honest parrot]

Didn't you have perms?

[latent orbit]

im working at university of british columbia rn can someone come and get me

[latent orbit]

true.

i miss playing r4e1 with badger

can someone bring him back

[burnt flume]

I feel like last time I played r4e1 with badger he desynced the terminal in 461 and then cconsole'd the door open because he couldn't be bothered looking for the key

[latent orbit]

i thought he hated cheating

[honest parrot]

to be fair desyncing on terminals warrants that type of behavior

[burnt flume]

I should do duo og r4e1 again

[mystic moss]

hope you find a partner soon goat

[latent orbit]

lol i havent played any og for a long time

i dont even remember what it looks like

still remember the bad ass burst cancel !!🤤

[burnt flume]

Why would you? Mission ends in the 3rd room

[latent orbit]

i dont remember what you are mentioning for real

[fresh heron]

Any genuine advice for weapons to bring for a main and secondary R8D2 run? I know what all is in it and usually run with Carbine and Machine gun. Any recs besides 1 person with scatter?

[mystic moss]

are you doing class 9?

[junior latch]

hel rifle, scattergun

sawed off

[mystic moss]

it's way easier to do class 7

[junior latch]

^

[mystic moss]

Ventilation sequence medium or whatever

[junior latch]

theres also a few other things that can make the level a lot easier to deal with

[vagrant veldt]

Gimme the tip.s

[junior latch]

eh i dont wanna spoil when we dont know where they got to yet

[fresh heron]

I've seen everything in it, only one in r8 not completely spoiled for me is E2.

[fresh heron]

What about the consistent infection for the mom fight/ duel room scans?

[burnt flume]

Turbine maybe, or bring fog reps from secondary

Fog repellers last a long time

[junior latch]

do the t-scan first as a full team (have people push out/off the scan so you dont shoot each other). Once you finish it strikers, nightmares and hybrids wont spawn anymore, only flyers (like 3 every 20 seconds)
then just throw down a fog repeller onto the big middle scan of the dual alarm and finish that

[junior latch]

fog repellers, 2 stacks for mom fight are more than enough
1 more for dual alarm

[fresh heron]

I assumed it made you do both at once but that makes it pretty easy.

[junior latch]

you also dont ever need to kill the tank and nightmare scout upstairs in the early zone.
Clear enemies in a radius of 20 meters around the blood door, then mine it and melee the hurt hybrids. Skips having to deal with the rest

[fringe garden]

you can also get away with having 2 scatterguns and deleting mom immediately so you only need 1 fog repeller

[junior latch]

you dont even need to finish the big static scan if you do smth earlier in the level lol

[junior latch]

"immediatly"

[fresh heron]

Can't exactly delete this mom that quick lol

[junior latch]

but ye, 2 scatterguns arent rly an issue. guns busted af anyhow

so 2 just makes dealing with it faster (also good for the snatchers at the end)

[fringe garden]

5000 health is gone in what, 10 scattergun shots? realistically 12?

[burnt flume]

You sweet summer soul

[amber timber]

😭

[fresh heron]

What would this scan skip be or is it not a genuine part of the level?

[junior latch]

you need 16 shots unless you somehow do it perfectly*

well, client magic

[mystic moss]

demom hit box 😔

[junior latch]

its just slightly faster (and harder)

[junior latch]

mega mom hitbox is so stupid

[fringe garden]

oh i skill issued

i thought mega mom had 5x like other moms do

[analog flicker]

You seen Potato's hitbox yet?

[fresh heron]

Is it related to the surge alarms before the checkpoint?

[fresh heron]

Also agree there potato's hit box is weird

[junior latch]

surge?

[mystic moss]

what's the problem?

[ivory pier]

i couldn't shoot an exposed bubble and then she put her arm in front of the bubble and then i could shoot it

[analog flicker]

The small little weakpoint at the top (though I don't think you can even hit it)

[mystic moss]

oh wtf there's a weak point

[junior latch]

the door to the terminal with which you kill schaeffer^2 opens upon t-scan completion if you have done the closest to spawn close_floodgate command terminal during the autoscroller session

[mystic moss]

I thought it was a bullet sponge with back multi

[latent orbit]

wtf is a potato wwtf

did i just miss any update

[fresh heron]

The "we need your help" alarm + shutting flood door terminals is what I meant

[mystic moss]

wtf Simon did you not play r8

[ivory pier]

R7E1 new enemy

[latent orbit]

i did complete wtf

[ivory pier]

wait no

its only R8A2?

[analog flicker]

#gtfo-media message

[junior latch]

potato?

yea only r8a2

[ivory pier]

yeh

and what do we call the balls at the end

[junior latch]

but ye im workin on a video regarding r8d2 skip, i just got home today tho so

[latent orbit]

oh the weird looking big ass enemy after the teleporting

forgot

😤

[mystic moss]

wtf you don't remember fighting the fatass corndog enemy

[junior latch]

maybe someone in their team scattergunned it

[latent orbit]

maybe

[junior latch]

sawed off scatter can delete in 1 sec

[latent orbit]

i was too busy playing arknights at the backgroud

[analog flicker]

[ivory pier]

did a R8D2 with skipping that one scan and skipping mom at the start of R8

but it wasnt a clean run

and we kinda just stopped

after getting 1 shitty run

[mystic moss]

does that even count as a weak point

[analog flicker]

Iirc Jade and I tried hitting it

To no avail

[junior latch]

did it with kenny as a full speed, its pretty fun (if neonate carrier doesnt just die)

[mystic moss]

isn't this similar to the idea that the nightmare shooter has a tinyass head

[junior latch]

not killing mega mom is funny

[mystic moss]

like it exists, but it's not practical to hit

[analog flicker]

They iirc are like chargers in that it just shows up as 1x body

[ivory pier]

did you ever do it with killing her?

how fast could you kill her?

[latent orbit]

peak game design

[junior latch]

hm?

oh yea we did it with killing her before, but running past is faster for sure

[ivory pier]

how long does the fight take if you brought good weapons

and shes not trolling

[junior latch]

like 40 sec or so i dont actually remember

i can check

ive got the vid

killed in 40, 30 is possible tho

[latent orbit]

wtf isnt that a boss fight

[ivory pier]

what are the good weapons for her

[junior latch]

2 scatter and sawed offs

[ivory pier]

you just stand face to face with the bubble?

[junior latch]

kinda ye

but the time save is pretty safe to get, theres moreso the issue of not finding res after t-scan and dying (or simply dying)

[ivory pier]

is the entire pit still cheese spot or did that get fixed

[junior latch]

i havent rly checked

i never went down, i was busy holdin nightmares and stuff

[daring ginkgo]

guys, wtf is this

i almost finished r5d2, but those 3 tanks came almost instantly

they catch up to me, when i was on last sec door

how the f

when i did test with cconsole, i had plenty amount of time before they even showed up

[mystic moss]

i'm assuming you closed all the doors behind you?

[latent palm]

tanks are a bit yknow

angy tyoday

[daring ginkgo]

yes,i even foamed one of those, but they decided to break other door

[mystic moss]

it's hard to say what happened then

no replay mod :(

[daring ginkgo]

what a bullshit, i swear

at least it was my pb on this level

[latent palm]

it do be like that

you did it tho

so youll do it again

[daring ginkgo]

also, mining door with chargers on 3rd code hunt turned off great

[mystic moss]

are you cracked at the game or something

[ivory pier]

you should play R4E1 reactor

[daring ginkgo]

out of curiosity i will do reactor again on cconsole rn and set timer before tanks will show

okay, i guess i was lucky on my first test, tanks came very fast now too

[burnt flume]

tanks spawn somewhere around code input/reactor end, for reference

[fresh heron]

So you can complete the T scan and complete the next terminal command before the middle room scan but only if you closed the floodgates in the 2/3rd of the mission?

[junior latch]

yes
it doesnt need to be all 3, just the one closest to spawn (all 3 are recommended anyhow)

tho the easiest way to do the level is to just do the t-scan, then the middle scan with foggies. It makes it trivial as heck

[daring ginkgo]

I guess my problem was that i tried to open boxes omw to exit and i had literally 5% ammo left

Tried to find at least 1 box of ammo

[fresh heron]

Middle scan pre or post Schafers-be-gone?

[mystic moss]

you shouldn't need ammo for the extract sequence

should've just dipped

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah i guess

[mystic moss]

you'll encounter maybe like 4 chargers on your way to extract lol

[daring ginkgo]

Damn, i needed like 15m seconds to finish lvl...

[junior latch]

pre is just easier as you skip a few waves of flyers, doesnt rly matter anyhow

[daring ginkgo]

And you know what is bitch move from devs? First door on the right had hacking console on both sides of door

Maybe i should just run through middle, should test it with cconsole tomorrow

To see, which doors are free

[mystic moss]

yeah you might as well find the optimal route to extract if you're gonna do that

but honestly this is the part of the level you should stress the least about lol

clear on next attempt for sure though

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, but i dont want to fcking die on the end of lvl again

Felt same pain, when i died on r4d2 extraction

[mystic moss]

yeah i getcha

if it makes you feel any better, they made alt r5d2 extract harder i think

[daring ginkgo]

What was on og?

[mystic moss]

harder in that in og r5d2 extract, the extract was before a staircase, so you could have one person camp upstairs and tank ai will just not push

minor tile change, but it can matter lol

[fresh heron]

Basically to sum, 2 scatters and atleast 1 hel rifle woukd be useful, attempt the teir 7 as opposed to the 9, attempt to get all flood-doors, hoard foggies for mom/scans, survive extract

[junior latch]

extract also has strats, but most of it is rly just funnelling, having scatter + hel rifle defend (scatter stops snatchers, hel rifle nightmares) until neonate crosses and then you just funnel

[daring ginkgo]

I also have a question, when i got 3rd code and pushed to reactor, why enemies respawned on zone before scan door, leading to zone with chargers? Isnt they should spawn, when i go further than 2 zones away?

[upbeat yacht]

once you leave a respawn zone, anything more then 1 room away from you respawns

[daring ginkgo]

Ah, i see

[worn basin]

you need to turn off surge at some point otherwise kraken can't spawn

[burnt flume]

Can you not try stack nightmares somewhere and clear enough of them at once with a mine or hel weapons/scatter?

[worn basin]

you can try, but the timing will be really tight

[burnt flume]

Hm, kraken doesn't enter spawn queue?

Probably more about the execution isn't it

[worn basin]

when we were doing lawless funny runs, it just wouldn't spawn if the timing was off or we miscalculated cap

so it's probably just

more effort than it's worth

I guess theoretically, it's doable

for reference, we were using pmom birth to try to control cap

we killed below the cap threshold, but she began to birth the moment we entered command for kraken

and it didn't spawn

maybe it might be different if you mine a whole surge wave ig

[burnt flume]

When I went in cconsole to check if kraken kill cancelled waves after the beth hani duo, I managed to get it to to spawn by killing a few nightmares but I'm not sure how many enemies I had and I think I had one hit kill on

Can check it out again at some point ig

[worn basin]

lmk your findings

I just think it would be a bummer to get that far and just get soft locked

[burnt flume]

kraken kill cancelled waves*, to which the answer is yes (ray tested it too)

[worn basin]

sorry, I'm a bit confused

so what you're saying

is that kraken enters queue

so even if it doesn't initially spawn

you can kill wave and it will spawn?

I felt like we tested that and it didn't spawn

[burnt flume]

I can check again, it might be the case but my memory is fuzzy and I have 0 knowledge past trying things practically in game (no datablock seatching)

[worn basin]

for sure

lmk, I'd be curious

because I felt like after we had it not spawn in

we tried clearing space in cap regardless

and no matter how much space there was

it just didn't spawn in

so we were softlocked

also, if it does spawn on queue

host needs to be in the right room

otherwise you can get softlocked a diff way LOL

[burnt flume]

ya

[burnt flume]

that doesn't seem like quality testing, I ran through to kraken using god, instant kill, instant scan, and kraken just spawned anyway when I input command

dunno why there weren't enough nightmares

18 NM strikers and 1 shooter on me, gonna check for stuck enemies

+3 stuck nightmare strikers at first class 6

+1 stuck shadow too

[fresh heron]

Apologies, just saw this but sounds about like what I was thinking. Extract doesn't go faster with mote than 1 in it with the MWP correct?

[burnt flume]

2 stuck shadows actually, not sure when the second happened

so that's 21 NM strikers + 1 nm shooter, and 1-2 shadows and kraken still spawned I guess?

[pine root]

Yes item scans

Don’t go faster than just one

so in r8d2 you just spawn block with one or two players

With the funnels to max your time before enemies get to you

It also removes enemies spawning behind door rng

[fresh heron]

I'm guessing player placement should also help fix spawns to places we would rather have them in for the time to walk back up, and get to the scan?

[pine root]

He

Ye

[mystic moss]

guys client burst pistol is insane

wake up

2 bursting strikers

[vagrant veldt]

Used it once I think.

[mystic moss]

talk to me when you're enlightened buddy

[vagrant veldt]

I pack Hell shotty 99% of the time. I am fully enlightened.

[fresh heron]

way way later but any recs for the tools I should prolly bring in with me for r8d2? I know foam would be solid but any specifics past that?

[mystic moss]

one of each with sniper sentry as your sentry probably

[fresh heron]

Works better for the nightmares?

[mystic moss]

yeah way better

you could maybe run double sentry, foam, bio too

mines don't have much use tbh

actually maybe you can use mines for the floodgates section

your call really

i think the double scan / extract sequence is scarier so double sentry is nice for that part

[fresh heron]

Either could help sub because the sents are nice for the double scan and could help with the holding while getting the cell/key (if I remember right)

[mystic moss]

in that case, double sentry might be the move

you might find a consumable mine anyway for the scans that matter

[fresh heron]

Foam is the no argument in my head because of the scouts and possibly delaying doors at extract

that's also a possibility

[mystic moss]

mm i think the optimal strat for extract is funneling anyway

[fresh heron]

funneling to that bridge area or is there a better one for both sides to funnel?

[mystic moss]

yeah funnel from bridge to staircase

and then you can do funny spawnblocking stuff to force enemies to spawn even farther

i don't know if i can properly articulate how to do the strat properly

surely someone else can though

[fresh heron]

I know its useful to have one in the Schafer terminal room and the room past the extract room helps but outside that I'm not 100%.

Just want to make sure its solidly laid out enough because a decent amount of the people I've played with do not use the checkpoints at all

[mystic moss]

that's surprising?

assumed most people would be down to checkpoint

[fresh heron]

Its been about 60/40

[mystic moss]

like do they dip after the first checkpoint?

or is it only after you do like 3+ checkpoints

[gusty burrow]

Host two bursts as well, no? Just much more unreliably

[mystic moss]

yeah, it just feels significantly easier to pull off as client (which isn't a surprise)

[fresh heron]

haven't put that much time into d2 yet to see but on the CX checkpoint FE, people would dip even if it was the first time not getting through it.

kind of screws the team in those cases to get another person

[mystic moss]

yeah lfg-ing in general is rough

[fresh heron]

haven't found but about 2 consistent people to go with. Got those I run into but not a solid group

[mystic moss]

hope they stick around, playing the game with a static group usually makes the experience way more enjoyable and easier(?)

[fresh heron]

1 yes, 1 needs more time to get a hang of it

[small nymph]

heyo, I wanna ask, does the sniper not 1 shot scouts anymore?

[modern coral]

It does, could fail for a number of reasons, but would be hard to tell w/out a clip.

[lunar island]

No way it doesnt

It one shots giants to the head, and those have 100+ hp iirc

Scouts only have 42

[small nymph]

im playing rn and idk if the guy im playing with is shooting the shoulder or not

[modern coral]

What limb broke?

[small nymph]

didnt see

far away from the room

[lunar island]

^ sometimes the scouts like to fuck you in the ass and miraculously break the torso instead of taking the headshot. Same happens with melee attacks, especially.

Makes me wonder if the hitboxes actually overlap at the bottom/neck area

Or if the torso hitbox is just oversized

Personally that's why I always jump-melee to kill scouts, but that's just me and besides the point. A sniper shot should 110% take it down.

Do you know if he actually hit it/hitmarkered? Or was it a close miss?

[small nymph]

I didnt actually see it

I told him I believed in him lol

so I was doing my own thing

he was telling me that he shot the head so I believed him

[lunar island]

Konig does 40.01 damage.
Scout has 42 HP.

Even a 5% booster, or hitting the scout literally anywhere on the back or head is a kill guaranteed.

Either he missed the scout, or missed the headshot and got a body shot instead by janky hitbox.

[small nymph]

he told me the head popped off

could it be a like a game bug or something

[lunar island]

The head on a scout can't pop unless it is dead. Same with all shooter variants, hybrids, chickens, etc.

It is tied into how that enemy type does ranged attacks. It's different than the striker/giant tongue

[worn basin]

that just sounds like client latency

[lunar island]

Still, if he hit it and it popped the head specifically, it should have killed it.

It just sounds a bit weird.

But then again this game is host to a million different 'weird' things.

[small nymph]

just got done with the lvl, he was new so it was no problem

[worn basin]

if something screamed or proxied, client can pop head and get kill marker and it won't die

[wraith marsh]

the head doesnt pop when that happens you just get the fake kill marker

[lunar island]

I've seen weird and BS scout wakes before, but never a living shooter, hybrid, scout, or chicken with a missing head.

I'm not sure the AI would even know how to handle it

Iirc (and could be wrong, haven't looked into this like I have strikers), but, the projectiles spawn from the head, so If it's missing, wouldn't it just brick their ranged ai?

[lusty river]

But we've seen a striker live with just legs before! A rare phenomenon

[lunar island]

Strikers are different.
Iirc they can live with at least 3 limbs remaining

Giants, maybe less.

Breaking a limb is tied to damage... they have their own health bar of sorts.

It's a damage threshold that once passed, staggers and updates the model

[unreal crystal]

given that in og r1 shooters used to lose their heads, no this doesnt matter

[lunar island]

Code in old rundowns also used to be far different. I mean we've literally swapped entire lighting engines over the years

[unreal crystal]

well im telling you that is 100% not the case

[lunar island]

I'm not doubting you, I'm just saying as it is right now, it's not possible

[pine root]

it is possilbe on the shadow scout modles for shooters

[lunar island]

Shadow scouts are striker models

They aren't technically shooters

[pine root]

but they use the same prefab

for shooting

as scout

[lunar island]

Do they? That's weird then. I thought their head was just upsized via % and that was that.

[pine root]

prefabs are how enemy attacks are loaded

[lunar island]

Are normal strikers heads compatible with shooter attacks? I'll admit, I've never tested it in the DBs.

[pine root]

yeah they are

[lunar island]

I know, I've made custom enemies before

I wonder why they have shooters set up this way then. It's just more confusing now.

[pine root]

to have head break mean they are dead? tbh it is satisfying

[lunar island]

Maybe because you weren't supposed to see shadow scouts before PDW/thermal weapons were added?

[lunar island]

No, I mean for shooter variants to not be able to have head break unless it is the last to be hit to kill them

[pine root]

probs just they wanted a shadow scout and already had the model

[lunar island]

For that yeah. It's literally just a shadow striker model resized using the scaling percentages.

Easier than making a shadow shooter just for that

And it's invisible anyway, nobody would notice. I can see why that was the decision that was made all the way back in r1

[latent palm]

Imagine making a model for something that you wouldnt see

So fun

[raw shard]

I mean you can kinda see them when you flash them, but shadow shooters would've been unbelievably annoying to deal with

I can see why they didn't do it

[trim sail]

Shadow Mom is enough...

Bio goes down -> GG

[boreal yew]

Or maybe...precision rifle

[latent palm]

flash them

[near stag]

Flash and then bang them

[latent palm]

banged

[raw shard]

In any case it wouldn't make sense for a shooter to survive after its head is gone anyway, since there is nothing to shoot from

[near stag]

I think on shooters the Last limp Hit is the one to Break. Like If you Hit its foot after bashing the head it will still Break even though you dealt less damage to that part

At least head does Not follow the the limb HP rule, otherwise normal Pistol Could one Tap shooters on the head

[glad hazel]

zero active players wooooooooooooooooo

[near stag]

316 Players currently in the Game

[junior latch]

Crazy that its not even 1pm in eu so people work and na is asleep

[burnt flume]

I never play in the morning anyway

Always leave it until after lunch

[shut vapor]

What about asia

[daring ginkgo]

Question for speedruners, is it possible to do second code hunt on r5d2 through first cycle?

[shut vapor]

I have info that it is possible

[burnt flume]

It is, but good luck with that

[gusty burrow]

It is possible, but very barely

[burnt flume]

Need to full send for the code and have someone on terminal - not going to happen when running with bots

[gusty burrow]

The speedrun strat is like 1 person does not stop sprinting while 2 just try to bodyguard (1 plugs code)

Very normal to repeat that code in normal play

[daring ginkgo]

Cant imagine difficulty of doing this on first cycle with all those giants/shadows inside, and it is still possible, insane

[burnt flume]

They're slow, you just run past them :)

[slender flare]

wait which one was the second code, the one with shadow blood door?

[burnt flume]

so long as you don't feel the warm embrace of a giant

[daring ginkgo]

No, blood door is first

[slender flare]

oh, I got it mixed up. I wasn't in R5D2 for a long time

[daring ginkgo]

Second hunt is in same room to the right, just scan door

[slender flare]

I see

wait what's the difficult part then, getting to it?

i's not the wave 3 right, with hybrid and strikers or shooters and 20 seconds timer

right

[daring ginkgo]

Yes, second code is in last room of this zone, and all rooms filled with shadows and giants

[slender flare]

that's not fun

i can see why it's bad

[daring ginkgo]

IF 3rd code hunt wasnt omw through respawn zone, it would be so much easier

With real people you can obviously manipulate this on your way back

Just 1 guy stays in respawn zone

[slender flare]

yeah

but solo you can't

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah

[slender flare]

respawn rooms really suck solo huh

solo runs are difficult on their own but with respawns it's even worse

[daring ginkgo]

I am really hoping, that i will clear this lvl today, that yesterday wipe on the end was like kick in the balls

[slender flare]

my game once crashed on R5B2 on the extraction with my friends

i know how it feels

[slender flare]

(i was the host, we all got kicked out)

[daring ginkgo]

Rip, wipe on extraction is even worse

[slender flare]

Almost happened to me and my friend because of a snatcher

he got snatched away but good thing was that we had 90% already

[daring ginkgo]

Imagine, if extraction scan was full team scan 💀

[rose nova]

:D

[slender flare]

yeah we would perish

i think some are full team

like in R8A2 secondary, it's sort of an extraction scan?

[daring ginkgo]

Iirc no lvls through r1-r5 had full team extraction scan (idk about r5e1 tho)

Cause, you know, bots never staying in this scan xd

[slender flare]

i think it has a non-team scan

but i am not sure, not that it really matters tbh

since it's silent

[daring ginkgo]

I cant w8 to dig in r5e1 already

[rose nova]

i mean technically forwards extractions with full team scans could also be regarded as such

:3

it's not the same but

it kinda partially is

think of d2- u cannot just outrun ur team when they die

[slender flare]

it's a rollercoaster

[slender flare]

Which D2

[rose nova]

r5

sorry

[daring ginkgo]

Let me ask one thing, without spoilers: is it technically possible to do this lvl with bots? For example, r2e1 is possible, but very hard, but r4e1 is impossible, due to reactor mechanics and tank error, which bots sucks against

[slender flare]

dw

[upper loom]

Yeah

[slender flare]

R5E1? Yes but you will be miserable

[rose nova]

r5e1? think so

[slender flare]

very miserable

i mean bots are immune to it's gimmick at least

so that's a nice thing

[rose nova]

r5e1 would be- harder to do than r2e1 i guess in a lot of ways but still possible

it's a bit of a weird one

[daring ginkgo]

Ok, thats reassuring

[upper loom]

Cell skip 😏

[slender flare]

yes, since you need to acsess terminals, multiple errors, the gimmick, surge alarms

[slender flare]

goodluck

[rose nova]

:] bot cell skip

[quasi spruce]

question about primary and heavy is just about personal preference or there somewhat a must weapon for each sectors?

[rose nova]

it's mostly the right weapon for the right level

[slender flare]

ah yes heavy

[daring ginkgo]

There are some meta guns and some weaker guns

[rose nova]

there's universal weaponry that works everywhere and stuff but usually it's what's appropriate for the level

[slender flare]

burst pistol /j

[slender flare]

with an error on your face ah yes

[upper loom]

Hel revo hel gun

[quasi spruce]

just finished rundown1 and trying to prep for r2

[upper loom]

Ez

[quasi spruce]

took as a week to finsih deeper lol

[upper loom]

Never change loadouts

[daring ginkgo]

I think with hel revolver/dmr + hel gun/rifle you can tackle almost anything

[slender flare]

you playing alone?

[quasi spruce]

playing with friends but around 1-2hrs per day only