gtfo-chat

[pine root]

Snatcher and nightmare scout are .2 and .3 respectively I think

[burnt flume]

but it does deal a menial amount of damage still

[stiff trail]

Okay then

[pine root]

Important to know the break point cause with bc you can full stagger snatcher to the head two burst

Very consistently

Also learning your night mate scout body break points in important for gtfr

Scary enemy

[alpine scaffold]

@mystic moss

You made the spreadsheet with primary weapons and angles to kill scout in the occiput right?

[mystic moss]

no

i think tru might have made it but don't quote me on it

[burnt flume]

probably was tru

[alpine scaffold]

So I was wrong, sorry

I was looking for the spreadsheet, I couldn't find it anymore

[mystic moss]

you can always dm tru

i'm sure he'll be happy to share it with you

[burnt flume]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_YpsPCclnYXiLGaSlCp4efNewkwHUG-RukGpJKdQEnI/edit?gid=805761801#gid=805761801 it's here, just scroll down to the enemies section and then scroll across for scout

[alpine scaffold]

thanks

Not that I'm going to use it to kill scouts with primary weapons, but it's funny information

[mystic moss]

it's helpful to know for 30 dmg weapons on charger scouts

not killing a charger scout with hel rifle cause you're off by 3 degrees is such a mood

[alpine scaffold]

Hel Shotgun can kill scout with occiput shot

lol

[jagged citrus]

there was someone i played iwth who killed a scout with the arbalist

i was like huh

[fossil horizon]

Damage multipliers do their work

[burnt flume]

i love watching a stream and seeing someone pitski a tool refill in r2e1

[junior latch]

zentreya killing a scout in r1a1 with veruta and another random killing it with smg in a stream was funny as hell

[jagged citrus]

is there any gun that cant kill scout if you magdump into occi

[mystic moss]

pretty sure you can occi kill with hel revo

[unreal crystal]

yea its pretty hard to do tho

[honest parrot]

how

booster or cheat?

[junior latch]

neither

[civic lance]

yep you can just tried it

[junior latch]

client

[honest parrot]

explain

cause I'm dumb

[junior latch]

shoot -> kill

[honest parrot]

??

[junior latch]

client lag be funny sometimes

makes it easier

[honest parrot]

so the lag allowed the damage to accumulate

and they get insta killed?

[junior latch]

scouts dont need you to kill them in 1 shot

you can even keep them staggered with limbbreaks if you wanted

[burnt flume]

I've killed a scout in r1a1 solo before with dmr to occiput, but that was with enough distance and getting a stagger

[latent palm]

STREAM WHEN!

[burnt flume]

I got the ad again, there's some footage from the r8 trailer I think

looked like the end of r8e1

[honest parrot]

even if it was something that wasn't seen before, i doubt it would mean major content

[honest parrot]

still it sounds weird they'd be using stuff from r8 for an ad
Isn't it supposed to be one of the endings of the game?

[burnt flume]

well I mean if it's just promotional material then you might as well use the newest thing

[honest parrot]

eh true

[fresh jacinth]

so why are Stim Shot boosters renamed to Adroit but only on the aggressive tier 👁️

[fossil horizon]

Because

[wary chasm]

^ what he said

[blissful dome]

Why is half of Dex named Dex lite in muted

[fresh jacinth]

because Dex is buffs for tools while Dex Lite is buffs for consumables

dunno the devs chose to both scale down the stats for muted and split them into 2 types but 🤷

the better question is "why is Tracker CPU Speed in the Lite part", since it's also a tool
and while I haven't rolled any c-foam|sentry|mine+tracker cpu speed bold/aggressive boosters yet, according to wiki that's possible and it baffles me that half of the whole booster can just be dead if you're running tracker and want it to recharge faster

[fossil horizon]

Yes they are possible, it's random

[fresh jacinth]

Wack™

tbh personally I'd kinda prefer tracker range/tag scan width anyway
the extra recharge speed is good for what, shadows?

[fossil horizon]

For not using boosters at all

Nothing can compare to glowstick power anyway

[jade reef]

so curious why do no players do the starting stages im struggling to find a group to just run early levels so I can get a handle on things

[lusty river]

Confused because I do see posts for early rundowns

[jagged citrus]

because new players are dumb
i cannot tell you how many fresh installs with like 10 minutes in the game join an r6d4 lobby and insist on running bio

[jade reef]

I belive it is more the matchmakeing then fresh installs trying to do the harder missions tbh

[pine root]

Are you matchmaking?

Or lfging

[jagged citrus]

i was using lfg

[jade reef]

Yeah I still am

I don't use mic but listen to orders fairly well

[pine root]

nvm

I think you should try to strive for more than just drone

Friend

[jade reef]

Fair but im not built to be a leader I'm meant to follow orders haha

[lost lynx]

huh

i see a lot of early level posts

very often

[jagged citrus]

work together or die together

[lost lynx]

honestly
in GTFO everyone in the team is a leader

you just NOT follow what other tells you
if you see something that might not work out you call it out

[jade reef]

well call outs are a given I thought

[jagged citrus]

someone can give you orders as in, they know the best way to play the level, where to set up and such

but you have to be able to give callouts yeah

unless you want to get carried

[pine root]

There is more than just leader and drone

You can become a player

Not an NPC

[jagged citrus]

PICK UP YOUR DEPLOYABLES

[lost lynx]

become bishop
friendly fire everyone in your team

[fresh jacinth]

THIS DOOR

[jade reef]

Denied friendly fire will not be tolerated

[jagged citrus]

FOUND A RESOURCE LOCKER

[analog flicker]

"This place is BEEG"

[jagged citrus]

got a coupla pings, hands off cocks

[hollow zodiac]

not
a
sausage

[wind glade]

This game is hard as fuck.

[honest parrot]

It's not that hard
It's just really difficult to learn

And hard to perform extremely well

but if you temper your expectations, it works well enough

[shut vapor]

So it's hard

[humble cove]

hey if anyone is down to teach a new player the ropes lmk! New to pc and hoping to find some teammates for this game

[shut vapor]

Welcome to pc

It's a bit of a slow morning so not many people are likely to be online right now, but we have a #lfg-beginners channel and a #how-to-matchmake channel to get you started :D

[humble cove]

thanks friend 🙂

[shut vapor]

Good luck 🫡

[magic escarp]

You betcha, this is one of the game's selling point actually-- It's difficulty

It emphasizes on level knowledge and coordination

Level knowledge you can only get by trial and error

[fossil horizon]

Nah you just going around, bonk, and shoot, it's easier when you think, stop overthinking the game

[trim sail]

here's some words to live by: sleepers aren't tough but your teammates are

[vast zinc]

if i touch scout's tentacles, will it be my friend?

[honest parrot]

nah it thinks you stinky

So it screams at you

even spits at you

[mellow hedge]

Look at my role and thatll tell you

[silver spade]

when are we samdowning bruh

[mellow hedge]

where hani

[silver spade]

dunno

[mellow hedge]

i can play tn

like over the next like 7-9 hours

[latent palm]

@mellow hedge huh!?

Tf did i do

[mellow hedge]

L

[latent palm]

[junior latch]

@tall hawk ask slendi theyd know

[rose nova]

:]

well course i know i was there

[tall hawk]

R3A1?

idk man

[rose nova]

it's r7e1

teehee

[tall hawk]

ohhhh

[rose nova]

i had to choose a one room zone so i could do the funny commands mor easily

and that was the only level i could think of

and it's pretty bright so yeh

i also took nightmare baby screenshots

[wind glade]

like... how else did he want me to word it

[wind glade]

Yes but I would find this game much more enjoyable solo tbh

Fact that it's basically impossible solo from what I've seen kinda sucks

[honest parrot]

yeah it sucks

duo on the other hand can work

with bots

or no bots

[magic escarp]

it's a game that is really emphasizing on coop

It's like trying to play payday solo

It's maybe possible, but not on all missions

Or at least not in a way accessible to players with non god-like skills

[modern coral]

Solo w/ bots is not that hard for the majority of levels.

[junior latch]

it can moreso just be more tedious

solo (no bots) gtfo is an actual skill check tho on top of being a knowledge check. The lack of tools kicks in really quickly as does the lessened speed in dealing with scans

[blissful dome]

it is a cooperative shooter...

[wind glade]

i don't care

lol

i said a game like this would be more enjoyable solo

didn't say "why can't i play this solo"

[analog flicker]

Tnepi/Hinoki be like

Though there's also Rose/Jade. But they don't post yt iirc

[wind glade]

Ya see the bots are the things that mess me up so bad lmao its a hard system constantly commanding them, i wish it could just be pure solo

[analog flicker]

Playing with 3 bots vs true solo

Is a different kind of difficult

[blissful dome]

hm

[burnt flume]

jade has some youtube vids posted

[junior latch]

idk whether this game rly would be more enjoyable solo
a lot of the objectives would have to be changed to be more streamlined like any other shooter

[boreal yew]

It used to be only true solo, bots added much lately

[burnt flume]

solo sucks a bit more when you're speedrunning

[wind glade]

Well my question is, does the difficulty / volume of mobs become less when solo? Or Warden Gigabrain actually doesn't care

[analog flicker]

True solo speedrunning

[wind glade]

and still makes it as hard

[junior latch]

bots have been in this game for nearly 3 years now 💀

[boreal yew]

No scaling for player numbers

[junior latch]

1. warden doesnt spawn them
2. no it doesnt change at all

[analog flicker]

Iirc some of Jades runs were faster than Hinoki/Tnepi's runs

[burnt flume]

solo players more often play for the clear than the completion time

[boreal yew]

If you commit to play solo, you commit to become a chad

[burnt flume]

I mean even I have runs faster than nenpi

but that's because lmao solo speedrun

[junior latch]

for more general play to be possible solo this game would need to be so mega changed and nerfed 💀

[upper loom]

playing true solo is like having it's just a burning memory on loop over and over and over again

[analog flicker]

From the small bit I watched you dispatched smalls quickly with knife. Though got fucked over at alarm once combat needed reload

[upper loom]

its like die die die die die die die omg I beat that part let me try again die die die die die die die

[blissful dome]

r1a1 reset gaming is crazy

[junior latch]

reading this as a german

the the the the the the the the

[wind glade]

I've already committed to this solo I'm not playing with people I'm on the AltR1B2 rn

[upper loom]

lol

[wind glade]

i just started yesterday

[junior latch]

but
why

[blissful dome]

darksaid moment

[junior latch]

its a coop game
unless you wanna start using exploits you wont be able to clear everything

[blissful dome]

bots only...

[junior latch]

nah darksaid at least uses the bts

[wind glade]

I will go until I cant go no more

which i heard is about alt6

or something

[upper loom]

you won't be able to do R1B2 lol

[blissful dome]

lmao

[upper loom]

i guarantee it

[junior latch]

yea no

[blissful dome]

solo w/ bots or not?

[wind glade]

well let's try it out shall we

solo without bots

[upper loom]

go for it

[blissful dome]

you wont make it past r1

id assume

[junior latch]

R1C1 is gonna be tough as fuck already

but then in R2 it becomes worlds harder once you get to D tiers

[upper loom]

B2

[wind glade]

well i'm on the 3rd lvl now so idc

idk *

[blissful dome]

<3

[upper loom]

B2 has a really nasty extraction hold

[blissful dome]

without bots?

[wind glade]

yea those parts kinda mess with me

yes without bots

i'm not using bots

i hate them

[blissful dome]

hm

[wind glade]

i play worse with them idk why

[blissful dome]

good luck

[wind glade]

they always mess up my sneaky

lmao

[junior latch]

they cant

[upper loom]

no they dont

💀

[blissful dome]

???

crazy

[boreal yew]

Oh...no, myth that bots suck at stealth

[wind glade]

i have footage they just shoot things

[upper loom]

they're hard coded to make 0 noise

[blissful dome]

only if you wake them

[upper loom]

even if they shoot

[blissful dome]

^

[wind glade]

maybe im playing wrong, im a new player after all but

when itry to sneak they just shoot sometimes

and i hate it

[junior latch]

them shooting doesnt wake up things

[blissful dome]

they literally cannot wake enemies unless they shoot a player placed mine

[junior latch]

they only shoot when you wake up stuff anyhow

[wind glade]

😯

[blissful dome]

bot hitting sleeping enemy is crazy though

[wind glade]

No

I didnt say that

Where did I say that I just said they ruin my sneaky

[blissful dome]

?

no like

[wind glade]

When they go to stage 1 or 2 alertness

[blissful dome]

the way it looks

[wind glade]

Regardless boys I'm clearing with no bots rn

I haven't tried b2

And im gunna try in a bit

so Gl to me i guess lol

any gun combo recommendations ?

[upper loom]

Hel revo hel gun

👍

[boreal yew]

R1B2 should be done in a couple tries, R1C1 will be the first tough level for a true soloer

[blissful dome]

dmr cshotgun

[blissful dome]

lame

[upper loom]

R1B2 is hard

[blissful dome]

:3

[upper loom]

it's peak

shut up

best loadout

[blissful dome]

<3

[blissful dome]

sawed off hel rifle...

[upper loom]

ping rope ping chair

[wind glade]

Btw no spoilers but do we get like different mobs or do they all look like this for all rundowns

[blissful dome]

wilco

[wind glade]

just yes or no

[upper loom]

idk go find out

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[junior latch]

theres a fuck ton more

[wind glade]

Someones a smartass

Lol

[wind glade]

Ok good

would've gotten boring if they didnt change

[junior latch]

youve seen about 5 max rn

[wind glade]

Yes

[junior latch]

theres like 6 times that

[wind glade]

Scout sleepers big guy

couple black head things

floor crawlys

crab crawlys

[junior latch]

scout, strikers, shooters, big striker, big shooter

[blissful dome]

??

[honest parrot]

chargers

[blissful dome]

in

r1?

[junior latch]

no

[blissful dome]

before b2?

[junior latch]

not chargers

team

[blissful dome]

crazy

[junior latch]

bruh

[wind glade]

idk they have like black things on their head but i think they're just sleepers

[junior latch]

they are thinking of shooters

[honest parrot]

oh

[blissful dome]

the r1a1 chargers go hard...

[wind glade]

like different versions of the sleepers

[honest parrot]

that makes sense

[junior latch]

shooters

they shoot a projectile

more health, weaker head

[wind glade]

Bro listen listen

I've never ever seen a game where the mobs fucking projectiles CURVE at you bro

that how in the side side step

[junior latch]

its soft homing yea

[blissful dome]

the crawling enemies are the same ||excluding the scout but yk whatever||

[honest parrot]

get gud at dodging

[junior latch]

but you can easily dodge the projectile

[upper loom]

look at the projectile and side step to dodge it

[blissful dome]

or you could just look sideways

[junior latch]

theres a million ways to do so. The dodge/quick step is legit the worst one

[wind glade]

I didn't say I get hit by them i'm saying i've never seen that mechanic in any game

It's super unique

[upper loom]

W

[junior latch]

huh?

its pretty common no?

[wind glade]

Not that I've seen ?

[blissful dome]

hm

[boreal yew]

Homing projectiles first time?

[junior latch]

less so in first person shooters i guess

[wind glade]

I play a crap ton of games

[junior latch]

super common in games with topdown

or third person

[upper loom]

not in the co-op hardcore extraction shooter genre ig

[boreal yew]

Even souls games have it

[blissful dome]

such a specific genre

[wind glade]

Shooter

Talking about shooter games

More specifically

[junior latch]

tbf theres soulsgames that are shooters

[wind glade]

Which?

[upper loom]

does armoured core count

[wind glade]

Don't say armored core

lmao

[upper loom]

lol

[boreal yew]

Remnant

[junior latch]

nah

theres more

i can remember 4

[pine root]

Blue flame?

[junior latch]

but im bad with names

[junior latch]

?

[wind glade]

I beat every FS game multiple timsee over the projectiles don't curve the way that the projectiles in this game curve

[honest parrot]

now that I think about it socrates how far have you gone in r1b2

[wind glade]

even in the standard games

[wind glade]

Haven't tried it yet brotha

[honest parrot]

huh

[wind glade]

About to head into it in a bit

[honest parrot]

well gl

and especially gl in r1c1

[wind glade]

So far cleared a1 and b1

that's it

[honest parrot]

solo clearing that will be hard for you

[boreal yew]

Because GTFO homing projectile is...the only one you can dodge by not moving but only looking up/down/left/right

[wind glade]

So you guys recommend hel guns ? or

For b

b2

[blissful dome]

look down moment

[wind glade]

and what toool

[blissful dome]

sawed off hel rifle when...

[wind glade]

i guess knife for solo but

[blissful dome]

sentry

what else would you take

lmao

[boreal yew]

Burst sentry

[wind glade]

burst sentry

is what i take

i'm just asking

i'm new so idk i just take what felt right to me

[junior latch]

hey they take burst sentry

[upper loom]

c-foam.

[junior latch]

finally a newbie that doesnt take shotgun or auto sentry

[upper loom]

😏

[junior latch]

based

[wind glade]

why do you guys all expect me to be a veteran holy

relax lol

[blissful dome]

cfoam b2 when...

you can permafoam the class 4... maybe

[upper loom]

whenever I decide to stop having a skill issue and be able to defend the extraction alarm lol

[junior latch]

no

you cant

[boreal yew]

You can't

[junior latch]

permafoam it

[blissful dome]

i mean

theres a door

[upper loom]

yh but theres two doors

that they can come through

cant close one of them

[blissful dome]

hope they spawn one side

[upper loom]

sec door

[blissful dome]

what can i say

[wind glade]

so uh

[upper loom]

pray harder

[blissful dome]

<3

[analog flicker]

Oh yeah. We did 4man cell skip the other day

[blissful dome]

^

[upper loom]

ty solace i've been informed

[blissful dome]

we did c2

L

[wind glade]

confirming which gun

[blissful dome]

love you

[wind glade]

guns

am i taking

before i go in rn

[blissful dome]

you should play yukidown sometime nickle

[analog flicker]

We also did B3 Cell skip

[upper loom]

oh yeah?

wow i'll think about it

[upper loom]

pick whatever you're good with

[analog flicker]

More specifically. Raid Yukidown

[wind glade]

i dont mind any gun

[upper loom]

no.

[analog flicker]

More ppl

[wind glade]

but some suck

lmao

[upper loom]

that shit sounds so boring

[upper loom]

yeah well use whatevers been working

[honest parrot]

pick what you can work with

[analog flicker]

You haven't even tried it

[honest parrot]

Most people have their preferred choice for full solo

[upper loom]

yukidown levels so far are quite ZZZ to play with 4 people

playing it with like

6-8

would be piss easy

[wind glade]

k droppin in gl

[upper loom]

bc not only the gun needs to be good

you have to know how to use the gun

[analog flicker]

Tbf. Our 5 man clear. Only had Akatora/Hank on everyone

[lost lynx]

What are we talking about now?

BBCs?

[upper loom]

alr wtf

that sounds like utter cancer

i'm not playing that 💀

[analog flicker]

4 man clear was like 30 or so seconds slower than the 5man clear

Albeit 4man clear everyone had their own loadouts

[junior latch]

does the 5 man clear have to wait for 5th?

[analog flicker]

Yeah

[junior latch]

F

waiting until 8 player becomes normal drop

[lost lynx]

Oh god
I just saw media channel

💀

What are those rankings

[analog flicker]

Yeah

[analog flicker]

You should try Yukidown B3 cell skip

[lusty river]

Have you tried the latest C1 revamp? I have made the level more involved in shooting

[upper loom]

that's out?

oo la la

launching yukidown

[analog flicker]

It's a lot more fun that way. The previous one was kinda zzz

[lusty river]

Feedback is important 🙂

[analog flicker]

One person could basically hold the entire Class6 & 3 the entire time

With sentries

[upper loom]

i don't think i'll get very far solo but I will fuck around and find out

[analog flicker]

Go secondary

[upper loom]

uhhh

nah

ik secondarys good

but I wanna see what happened to main

[analog flicker]

Imagine Yuki manages to remove the truck

[lusty river]

Main gameplay changes only if you do Secondary, otherwise it'll be the same

[upper loom]

oh

[analog flicker]

Pogchamp

[upper loom]

so ig the change to main is that secondary can be done first

and you get an error

[analog flicker]

Yes

[upper loom]

ok well

main is still zzz then

unles secondary now has to be done before main for some reason

[analog flicker]

when Yuki and them woke scout and wave spawned on top of me

[lusty river]

Others have said it's a much needed change and liked it

[analog flicker]

[lusty river]

Mfw scout

[analog flicker]

Btw Nickle. Resources weren't increased either when we did 4+

[upper loom]

well obvs not

but it doesnt really matter

yukidown is quite generous with res

[analog flicker]

So everyone was either low or meleeing a lot in cellskip

[lusty river]

Resource balancing is difficult

[upper loom]

cool

[upper loom]

I understand

[analog flicker]

Tbf this is more your specials refilling quite a bit

Dread only refilling 15 bullets has me dying though.

[upper loom]

is this the new copypasta #lfg-north-america message

[analog flicker]

Yeah

[upper loom]

💀

[analog flicker]

It triggered someone hard if you scroll up a bit in media

Because hange has 4k hours

#gtfo-media message

[lusty river]

I might be able to tweak this

[upper loom]

theres a couple bad apples

[analog flicker]

Iirc when I told you yesterday Rev was refilling 34%?

Fk

[upper loom]

thats quite a bit

but

[analog flicker]

It's been too long since I've looked at ammo cost/refill numbers

[upper loom]

wait whats the kills per refill

on that

[analog flicker]

That's with Rev 180 instead of 199 too

[upper loom]

34% of 180

60smth

if you land most of your shots

thats like

[analog flicker]

3 mags

[upper loom]

40 ish small kills

💀

60 if you're perfect

i think

it does one shot strikers doesnt it?

[analog flicker]

Nah

It's dmg is like DMR

1 tap shooter / 2 tap striker

3 tap striker body ofc.

[junior latch]

?

the fuck are these modded changes

[upper loom]

go play yukidown

[upper loom]

oh

so like

30 kills

[junior latch]

why is there a revo that makes dmr a meme

[analog flicker]

Rev is like the Auto cannon of Descent but likely stronger

[upper loom]

uhm

well

you sohuld look at the rundown first

and then ask those questions lol

[analog flicker]

Regalia still one taps strikers/shooters but has less body dmg in general

[junior latch]

just prefacing
i will never understand people buffing guns into oblivion to add more enemies

[upper loom]

its a different weapon roster entirely

[analog flicker]

Tbf I imagine part of it is just Yuki having fun with it

[upper loom]

yeah

the weapons are fun

like really fun

yuki knows how to make weapons that feel good

[analog flicker]

Partly due to feedback from others

Hank/Rose/Jade to my knowledge

[upper loom]

part of the skill is using the feedback

[junior latch]

mhm

[analog flicker]

Even Goat lol

Quarry has less recoil. Probably like base Helpp now

[upper loom]

it was p crazy for an autopistol

you wouldn't expect it

[analog flicker]

It was fun. But it got changed

[fossil horizon]

Yes we know you can't

[analog flicker]

I don't particularly like Tyrant change though

Probably more dmg but lower dps

[lusty river]

Your feedback is valuable as everyone else's. My latest version addressed most weapons but I will take a closer look on the dmr and see how it can be improved

[upper loom]

could ytou maybe

[analog flicker]

Tbh. It's like the Vermin situation

[upper loom]

give it the 0.2 headshto damage on strikers

👉 👈

( dying on this hill fr )

[analog flicker]

Btw eva. That revo has Hel revo recoil

[lusty river]

Vermin might require another nerf. And we'll see if I add more damage to the dmr, more details soon

[junior latch]

i think its definetly possible to make very fun weapons (even if over buffed) in a balanced settings

legacy did it decently well in og r6.

Theres just a lot of funny changes in modded (like giving all guns pen, but then nerfing hel rifle to a 4 mag with no other change )

[upper loom]

vermin might need an ammo nerf

[analog flicker]

Imean. Legacy did a lot of sub 30 dmg

[burnt flume]

is the autopistol still awful to use

[junior latch]

og legacy?

[fossil horizon]

Just make grenade launchers everywhere

[junior latch]

i dont remember that being the case

[burnt flume]

speedrunning r1a1 for 3 hours hurts my wrist less than controlling recoil on that thing

[mellow hedge]

cease

[unreal crystal]

og legacy just made all guns feel fun

and the levels were still rlly challenging with those weapon buffs

[junior latch]

go back to speeding r1a1 or r4e1
🧄

[fossil horizon]

Urself

[junior latch]

yea

[fossil horizon]

[burnt flume]

im running r8a1 rn

[junior latch]

its the only example ive seen that straight up buffs both while making both work out well

it also helps that it didnt add a hundred weird enemies

[junior latch]

right, r1a1 electric boogaloo

[upper loom]

whats wrong with the afflicted matriarch eva

🙄

[fossil horizon]

Afflicted matriarch Becky visitor scout regenerative emp

Sounds good

[daring ginkgo]

alarms could not be bugged, right? rn i died on lvl 10 alarm on r5d2 but i could swear, it wasnt like diminished alarm, felt like basic, or i am trippin

[junior latch]

?

what specifically are you confused about

just saying, diminished spawns less per wave. but also ramps to bigger waves. And cuz its generally slightly smaller waves these enemies do tend to spawn in again quicker

[daring ginkgo]

r5d2 lvl 10 alarm is diminished, means there should be less enemies, but faster spawn, but i got a feeling, that enemies amount was the same, as if it was basic alarm

it ramps? ok, now it make sence

[junior latch]

in general alarms ramp

[daring ginkgo]

i guess i am just rusty after week of grinding gachas

[lost lynx]

bro plays gacha games

nuke him

[fossil horizon]

I know one error you can bug but normally you don't get something absurd from normal alarms(it's bot playing curse, it's envelopes itself inside your body)

[daring ginkgo]

and i play with bots, double nuke

[junior latch]

altho yea

theres a few enemy spawn sequences that you can bug out

[burnt flume]

Me in gtfr when the alarm gives up after I survive 3 waves of enemies

[wraith marsh]

The 5 stuck big flyers in spawn:

[unreal crystal]

The 5 stuck big flyer weakpoints in spawn:

[jagged citrus]

the big flyer in question:

[pine root]

You aren’t doing the up to date one

Right?

[burnt flume]

nah it was whatever's on thunderstore

figured it was outdated because beth said about 0.1 hel gun, and that shit was 0.2

I'd get enemies waking in HSU room in r1a1 and stacking on checkpoint door

[quasi pine]

[pine root]

XD

[burnt flume]

It happened twice and with what you said about using steam id to fuck with people I was paranoid

[pine root]

Na we just joke about writing code specifically for people

The gtfr that we play is like 18 versions ahead or something

[burnt flume]

Lmao wild

[pine root]

Surely I will update the code

[tall hawk]

would be pretty cool

[pine root]

I wanna get muilt complex working before launch

Kracken would also be nice/ demom health nerfs

And fix the entire config file

[fresh jacinth]

wait they do?
I've never heard mention of this
that's uh, quite good to know

[pine root]

Yeah it is so slow and most alarms are only like 2 waves of enemies so it never matters

But you would prefer to finish the alarms faster if you could

Unless your trying to manipulate heat

[burnt flume]

I still find it funny how you never get hybrids in r4e1 S1 scan unless you're speedrunning

[pine root]

Yes heat does make a difference sometimes ngl I think you could make a tech level that is impossible without heat management

Kill error until hear stabilize then find heavy spawn start an alarm and finish it before next heavy spawn

Where that enemy ends the run

[rose nova]

it doesn't rlly matter cause most alarms don't ramp up almost nothing as they are so short :3

i also did just learnt they ramp up a couple days ago but that's probs the reason no one knew lol

cause it doesn't matter except for a handful of very long/error alarms

[fresh jacinth]

so how exactly do they ramp up
is it just raw number of enemies or does the threat level scale up (e.g. giants replacing strikers) too?
..or maybe just the interval?

[tall hawk]

what is heat and how does it work/ what does it do?

[pine root]

Heat is essentially the rng protection system in the game making sure you don’t get to many giants per a wave vs to many smalls.

The thing is the values don’t go to baseline given a long enough alarm. Meaning there will be a higher chance of smalls vs bigs and soo on.

It used to be heat was permanent between levels

But now it resets on level start

the use cases is sometimes waking up a scout wave will decrease your chance of giant in next alarm. Once heat stabilizes you can predict giant spawns to be about every 150 given giants are the special role and you have maxed weakling and or standard

[serene berry]

so in order to do this would you need custom enemies where the smalls are manageable and the big variants are immortals and assign that enemy to the alarm?

[pine root]

Yeah

You could make a two room distance surge that you need on

To flood the heat

[serene berry]

that sounds righteous

[rose nova]

i believe it's just raw number of enemies

like how some errors go from one striker to 5 in 5 minutes or something

[analog flicker]

Over time enemy wave get bigger

[serene berry]

checks notes
it says he they get taller too, is that true?

[upper loom]

yes

[crude bay]

Wait a minute

[junior latch]

The tank about to be useless past the first zone

Also im considering whether ronald and the king have any extra powers

Otherwise the meta answer should be kenshiro 11/10 times

[near stag]

Does a full Team scan require all 100 crabs to be in the Same scan?

[junior latch]

having someone who has country level feats is insane

[junior latch]

Yes

Crash bandicoot is also nothing to scoff at
But i think kenshiro sweeps

[daring ginkgo]

But crash bandicoot have infinite ammo for bazooka

And shooters can screw kenshiro btw, he is god in close range, but in ranged dunno

He can probably flex his body so hard, that those shots doesnt even matter

[junior latch]

Stat diff is still large

[near stag]

Ngl i can Imagine Darksaid playing with 3 orangutans, since its going to be the Same (or even better) as playing with the bots

[junior latch]

Hes way too fast

im meta gaming this so kenshiro is ftl

[daring ginkgo]

They probably will not follow my commands, like bots

[junior latch]

kenshiro solos r7e1

i dont remember @fossil horizon at what point do mines start doing damage to pablo again?

[honest parrot]

I thought pablo is immortal

[junior latch]

well for us

iirc leonardo stacked enough mine damage that his rounding stopped stopping the damage

[fossil horizon]

I don't remember clearly that, maybe if I look into custom boosters I can tell it, but not at home rn

[junior latch]

if we calculate how much force is in a mine. Multiplicate that with the dmg booster and then take into account how much it does to pablo we can roughly calculate his defenses

[fossil horizon]

I don't remember it's somewhere around 40-60k% increase

[junior latch]

if youd look into a lore reason, then pablo probably has super dense armor and while hes super strong he isnt strong enough to move it quickly (or with much force) resulting in his weaker punches

[junior latch]

Lets just say 50k%

[fossil horizon]

It's not even number i remember it

But yeah somewhere around 50k%

[fossil horizon]

That spreads to guns too, but haven't really tested guns damage % and melee

[fossil horizon]

For normal players yes, for custom boosters users it isn't, it's only a question of how much you eager to do that

[junior latch]

@fossil horizon did it die

Or how much dmg did it do again

[fossil horizon]

I remember killing it with scattergun

[junior latch]

i mean with the 50k% mines

[fossil horizon]

No

[junior latch]

rough dmg?

in%

[fossil horizon]

I don't remember

[junior latch]

Ok so pablo survives a 500 ton tnt explosion

[honest parrot]

i thought pablo was just something with a million health

[junior latch]

He got insane armor

[fossil horizon]

Billion*

[honest parrot]

huh

[junior latch]

Damn he takes like 3%?

Dude shrugs off 500 tons of tnt lol

[fossil horizon]

It's somewhere around 150 mines iirc

Maybe more

I thought my pc would crash

Or GTFO

[junior latch]

Wait

You placed 150 50k% dmg mines?

[fossil horizon]

Somewhere on your server I made calculations Eva

With damage per mine

[junior latch]

Yea if thats 150 of those mines

Then pablo memes on 75.000 tons worth of tnt

[fossil horizon]

Discord search ass

Oh wait I'm stupid

I wrote all calculations in your chat on twitch back then

[junior latch]

Pablo dies to 1/18th of a nuke

[fossil horizon]

That's Pablo of course he can tank that

[daring ginkgo]

Use head of Medusa to petrify him, no need to kill

[fossil horizon]

Go make me that mod komrade

[graceful geode]

no just you

[daring ginkgo]

Sleeping enemies/scouts will be foamed forever, until you hit them?

[tall hawk]

they will get unfoamed with time

some are foamed for a surprisingly short time

[daring ginkgo]

Ah, ok, i thought they will stay frozen until damaged, like doors

[fossil horizon]

Some are not foamed though they don't appear sleeping in vanilla

[fossil horizon]

If you damage them they will aggro on you

[daring ginkgo]

I fcking hate respawn zone on r5d2, why scouts respawning too

[fossil horizon]

After unfoaming

[graceful geode]

no of course not, the foam on ground also disappears after some time (4min? 5? cant remember)

[fossil horizon]

Iirc 5

[graceful geode]

Foam on doors lasts "forever" (I'm think there's some weird coding stuff like 2 fucktillion seconds long or whatnot)

[daring ginkgo]

I thought i could foam scouts on r5d2 respawn zone, if they are close to room with 3rd code

Rip

[graceful geode]

well

You can save the door for when you come back, shoot scout, close door, mine so you pulled the room

[daring ginkgo]

I am just rerolling lvl until good rng

[graceful geode]

Reactor waves there are always in the direction of start

[daring ginkgo]

When both scouts far away and charger scout in second room

[graceful geode]

Whatever you want

remember about the glitched stuck spot

[daring ginkgo]

I remember 💀

[graceful geode]

👍

[fossil horizon]

Yeah the funny bridge

[near stag]

I want to See a sleeping Flyer

[fossil horizon]

You can make them scouts

[latent palm]

SLEEPOS

[latent palm]

the tentacles fall down and they just sit on the shelves there

[near stag]

Why did i imagined it Like a Blender Physics Simulation 😭

[latent palm]

cause i mean it

[near stag]

Get Out of my head

[latent palm]

never

[honest parrot]

some part of me is glad I didn't jump onto gtfo earlier in its lifetime
that way I can still play destiny without worrying about missing content here
since content wise the game is done

[shut vapor]

lol

me too

except destiny is arguably more egregious when it comes to removing content

[honest parrot]

that's why I'm glad 🙂

I have more important things to tend to

[junior latch]

imagine if one just never plays destiny

[shut vapor]

I have 30 hours in it :D Last played January 2020

[daring ginkgo]

Destiny is definition of micro transactions and Dlc on top of Dlc

Also removing old content is just 💀

[shut vapor]

I haven't got a problem with removing content specifically

It becomes a problem when removing content wasn't the design initially

[lost lynx]

I heard Destiny discussion

[shut vapor]

You misheard Battle Cats

[lost lynx]

Luckily they are adding the content back
as "new"

[daring ginkgo]

[daring ginkgo]

And you have to pay for this i assume?

[lost lynx]

No

Its actually free

Lol

[daring ginkgo]

Wow

[honest parrot]

yeah its amazing

[lost lynx]

The next "new" raid (according to leaks) is scourge of the past

[daring ginkgo]

Destiny gameplay felt boring for me after 1k hours in warframe xd

Imo warframe is still best looter-shooter

[lost lynx]

Borderlands

[fossil horizon]

@junior latch back to mine conversation +39910% mine damage let mines do 153 damage to Pablo while themselves dealing 19955 damage in one hit, so to kill pablo with this mines you would need 65360 mines for sure because number isn't even

[daring ginkgo]

My pc lagged after 20 mines explosion, if i trigger 65k, my house will explode

[fossil horizon]

#gtfo-media message
This is somewhat around 150

Iirc you can't do less than 153 damage with mines to Pablo

[analog flicker]

looks at ppl currently getting bans for macros and etc on Destiny

[daring ginkgo]

Macros on shooters? Like aimbot?

In pve game 😂

[fossil horizon]

There's actually aimbot and esp for GTFO

[latent palm]

I forgor to like and sub to leonardos

[fossil horizon]

I don't post anything on YT

[latent palm]

You did

[mellow hedge]

LIKE AND SUB TO ME

[latent palm]

Lol

[latent palm]

With face cam ill definitely sub

[fossil horizon]

It's accessible only by link

[latent palm]

[latent palm]

And?

Ofc ppl can click on media lol

[daring ginkgo]

Use aimbot on gtfo, pick veruta, brrr all headshots

[analog flicker]

The fact I know it exists and where irks me if I ever find someone actually using it.

Unironically I'm positive I met one a few days ago.

Full auto hel rifle.

[graceful geode]

that's one thing

you CAN guess easily if someone cheats with modded guns or endless magazines

It's very, very hard if instead they just use aimbot/esp

[analog flicker]

Accuracy tracker be like

[graceful geode]

Take it this way: someone could (perhaps) mod the game to make enemies A LOT more visible even in complete darkness or something that's just client side but gives an advantage anyway

[analog flicker]

Esp I'm not too sure about

[mystic moss]

when the chokemod user shoots 5 shots

[analog flicker]

Inf ammo chokemod users make me laugh.

[graceful geode]

Well the sawed off has 3 barrels but shoots 4

🤣

[graceful geode]

Eh but only if it's obvious

[analog flicker]

They always try to lie off their asses they aren't cheating and then suddenly ask for ammo when I point it out

[mystic moss]

most ppl are oblivious to cheaters

[fossil horizon]

I'm cheater I one shot Pablo with mines

[analog flicker]

The one that made me laugh was when they kept spawning strikers behind me and one time a giant

[mystic moss]

they don't notice the burst rifle one bursting smalls

[daring ginkgo]

lmao

[burnt flume]

knowledge deficit makes it hard to be suspicious of things

[mystic moss]

or them moving faster than everyone else

[burnt flume]

too much knowledge can make it too easy to be suspicious of things

but if you know how to pull the strings then it might be easy to figure something out

[analog flicker]

Heroic heart be like

[mystic moss]

or how that 5 use ammo never seems to deplete

[graceful geode]

I mean aim-wise it's really hard to tell compared to ammo/damage cheats

[analog flicker]

Not really.

[burnt flume]

or that there's only a 2 use tool in the second zone of r2e1

[graceful geode]

Perhaps if someone uses high-recoil shit and keeps hitting but eh

[burnt flume]

and there is no way this guy can legitimately refill cfoam from 0 to 80% in steps of 20%

[mystic moss]

tfw I get accused of aimbotting cause I play gtfo like a schizo

[daring ginkgo]

take this as a compliment

[analog flicker]

When scrubs come across actual good players

[mystic moss]

and then when i call out the cheater they just deny it

[burnt flume]

cheaters are so boring

[mystic moss]

like own up to it lol

[burnt flume]

"dude you're cheating"
"no I'm not"
"I know you're cheating, you can't do X normally"
"no i'm not cheating"

[mystic moss]

it's literally a pve game

[analog flicker]

I recall one kept telling me
"Just let me play the way I wanna play and you play how you want to"

[mystic moss]

you get nothing from beating the game anyway

[magic escarp]

same on TF2

I love people malding

[burnt flume]

ok but you're trans so it's given that you're a deviant 💔

[magic escarp]

❤️

[mystic moss]

I think the bot crisis in tf2 has made everyone insanely paranoid tbf

[magic escarp]

tbf yeah

but those ones

were just malding

I used to know a cheater, I still have no idea what they get

Is that the pleasure of making people feel bad?

Cause if it's the pleasure of winning, you didn't win, your cheats did

[mystic moss]

it's the same thing in cs2

[magic escarp]

anyway, once my fascist utopia is up, I'm reenacting death penalty

but just for cheaters

[mystic moss]

you'll never know if you got outskilled or the other guy just had wall cheats

[analog flicker]

Can't wait to find cheaters in Den of Wolves.

[burnt flume]

there goes my plans to have 3 husbands and 2 wives

[magic escarp]

tbf tracking people behind walls and being like "yeah in .5 seconds they're going to go out from that place" and putting a headshot is

hhhhhhhhhhhh

only did it once or twice

had to change pants

[magic escarp]

there are ways

[mystic moss]

hoh yeah actually having gamesense feels so good

[magic escarp]

yeah

you feel good about being good

it's all you baby

[quartz cape]

the blind det dopamine factory

[bitter helm]

we need one more: R1D1 🎯 109775240948236395

[peak anchor]

Gamescom is gonna be epic

[burnt flume]

instead of going to gamescom i might just go get lost in a national park

have a nice 1-2 days out

[peak anchor]

Aren't the rangers gonna cry or you going stealth camping?

[mystic moss]

reuniting with nature 🥹

[burnt flume]

tbh I don't know what the situation is or isn't without rangers but my plan would just be walking/hiking for a few hours then going back to the hotel

[burnt flume]

i need to get away from the gtfo community

[mystic moss]

you can just say you're trying to escape me

[peak anchor]

Rangers are a pain in the ass, almost got caught a few weeks ago and that would be hella expensive here in germany💀

[mystic moss]

i know that's what you actually mean

[mystic moss]

is this how national parks work in europe

i didn't know rangers were necessary

i thought you could just vibe in the park

[burnt flume]

i don't know at all

i could look at the website and try figure more information

[peak anchor]

They monitor local animal populations, look for wildfires and make sure that the forest is health

healthy*

[pine root]

You can just
Vibe in park

Goat is insane

[burnt flume]

yeah it seems like it's the same over here

the park authorities want to keep the national parks in good order and healthy

[mystic moss]

yeah i understand that role, i just got the impression that the rangers were policing how people spent their time in the park

[pine root]

you can’t vibe in natural reserves

[pine root]

Sometimes

[mystic moss]

like you have be around them if you want to camp

like it's a mandatory tour guide sorta deal

[pine root]

If you don’t get caught nothing is illegal

[peak anchor]

true

[mystic moss]

omw to burn 500 acres of natural reserves

[burnt flume]

most the land is privately owned, hm

I definitely wouldn't be chilling in some random paddock in a farm, but walking paths/streams should be fine

[mystic moss]

return to nature

[unreal crystal]

wtf

[mystic moss]

omg haaaii bethhh~

you're the type of person who would commit insurance fraud

[unreal crystal]

stop talking to me

[pine root]

Why no pfp

[mystic moss]

i'm on discord nitro free trial

gotta get my money's worth

[pine root]

Huh?

[mellow hedge]

Jish doesnt understand cause they're not POOR

sorry

[pine root]

I wish I wasn’t

[mystic moss]

omg i can be like solace now

look anime emoji

[unreal crystal]

please stop

im gonna block u

[graceful geode]

depends

I think in Italy you need to camp in certain areas of a national park but to be honest I've never bothered

[graceful geode]

It needs to be of someone drinking from something to imitate Solace

[burnt flume]

:animecharactersippingbeveragefromareceptaclewithadisgruntledlookontheirface:

[graceful geode]

reshilling my survey (please no ban) #gtfo-chat message

[burnt flume]

Thanks, missed this one

[quartz cape]

this is a great impression

[daring ginkgo]

cool emote

[magic escarp]

DE GAULLE DRIVES

AHAHAH

HOLY SHIT

[graceful geode]

🤣

[magic escarp]

That guy is still the goat for most old people

you do not get how close to home it hit

BFHJKJBFZQ

[mystic moss]

[graceful geode]

ABSOLUTE Perfect imitation

[lusty river]

Are you real

[mystic moss]

ask rose

[lusty river]

[burnt flume]

which rose

and which goat

[mystic moss]

[quartz cape]

woah is that solace

[mystic moss]

yeah i'm solace, how'd you know

[quartz cape]

just a vibe i got

[mystic moss]

damn thought no one would recognize my alt

[shut vapor]

[shut vapor]

[drifting sparrow]

Is it just me or I can't inject myself now. Was working an hr ago

[pine root]

Tuesday

[burnt flume]

tuesday steam server maintenance

every week

[drifting sparrow]

Yeah i just remembered xD

[burnt flume]

gets people every time :)

[drifting sparrow]

I dont usually get hit with a server maintenance since im playing something else

[lost lynx]

wtf

inject yourself?

🤨

[drifting sparrow]

ye with the nice sweet cold hsu fluid

[modern coral]

Steam maintenance moment

[mystic moss]

why else would you stop playing gtfo

[shut vapor]

To go to gamescom

[honest parrot]

Oh right

When's that happening?

[mellow hedge]

This week

I COULD go on Sunday

[honest parrot]

is this even a question
like in what world would you be more afraid of strikers

[wraith marsh]

the survey does seem to follow

[daring ginkgo]

Ngl, after yesterday wipe on r5d2, i would like to see 3 trained orangutans in my team instead of bots, like Malefic said

[shut vapor]

This can be arranged

[daring ginkgo]

I also enjoyed using hel revolver for the first time

If i switch spear to hammer, i become a full meta slave with hel revo and hel rifle

[quasi idol]

Shh

Sleepas

Let them snooz

So ve dont hav to fight thzem

[near stag]

We must Not do that again

I Hope we do better next time

[daring ginkgo]

THIS DOOR

[honest parrot]

I need--Scout!

[near stag]

"Ergh- Ugh- Ergh- Ugh- Ergh- Ugh- Ergh- Ugh Lets not do that again"

[robust dawn]

Big scout

[analog flicker]

We need- Three- Big- Scout

[analog flicker]

Hel rifle is meta?

[latent orbit]

hey do you guys know Larry Hryb

[analog flicker]

albeit. This is coming from having me seen so many pubs lately just fire that thing into any living thing without pen kills

[latent palm]

Gargles on words is a art

You and i both master it

[daring ginkgo]

Is it not? One of the best guns for sure

[analog flicker]

👆

You don't wanna know how many times. I've been pen shot because they wanted to hel rifle a single striker or shooter.

[daring ginkgo]

[analog flicker]

Then again. This is more a case of

Bad hel rifle usage

shrugs Hel rifle is great where it shines.

But I can't throw it into the "Meta"

Imo that is.

[daring ginkgo]

What is special meta in your opinion?

[analog flicker]

Imo it's hard to really say one special is meta over all the others since they're more role oriented