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No it wouldnt
they do a pretty good job of that
they litteraly fucked it in R8
Remove one more round from sniper
my dms :33
yea it wouldnt be hard to make them useless intentionally
<3
but it would be hard to do so while trying to make them viable
the bison ๐
The devs are trying
nobody would unironically remove another sniper round
the gas passer ๐
I would
I hate sniper
the pomson ๐
why did they nerf sniper tho
I'm sure you'd say that for the 3 round sniper
they could have just removed its ammo efficiency
If it makes it even less viable ill do it
Yet here we are
remove one more shot and then buff its damage so it can one shot giants on bodyshot
Okay
Just hear me out
4 round sniper
Anyone?
nah
theres a difference between 3 -> 2 being stupid
and 2 -> 1 (after 3 -> 2) being litteraly braindead
No
make it that disposable rocket launcher strategem from helldivers
is in legacy (mod) its quite strong
Hm
Add RPG to gtfo
Bru
Fatal experiment has it iirc
We need a tool that's just a 2500 lb SC2500
I need a tool strong enough to lift 400 pounds @upper loom
We need a tool that's like a fixing wrench, an actual tool
Fix up doors :D
the world if the prisoners figured out how to close security doors:
wheres my burning torch
Get welding back into gtfo
Hacker tool use on door when
Should I buy a monster at work
The drink?
Wait, there was some welding?
Yes
Do you need caffeine
the burning torch made it first appearance in 2019 gtfo trailer
Always
i gueess they couldnt fit it in the gameplay so they didnt add it in the game
Ig
insane
<3
Dont drink it too often
Something we agree on finally
Unhealthy
Indeed my good lad
I think theyre almost out
YES
Cool im gonna od on caffeine
Rundown -1 ancient era?
I need monsters
Same
It's v old yes, iirc there's some voice lines still
Ayo
Omg this bus has air conditioning
Yoooo
Omw to home, finally
Rip
<3
Did a presentation today got asked questions and they seemed to appreciate the answers
Whenever I work i think about scattergunning 4 shadow scouts at the same time
It makes me happy

sorry automod
org*sm
Thats what im sayin
Cute
I think about 6 round sniper rifle...
Thanks youuuuu
fully automatic sniper rifle
48 round scattergun
<3 send help
Scatter gun with actual sights and or range lets start here
please god dont let the orange win
No you sort out your own grandpas tyvm
we cannot have another four years of orange

NO
Mean
Check out my beautiful dog in pet pics
id rather cover myslef in paper cuts and jump into a vat of lemon juice
if that shit passes im leaving the country fuck this
I'm a minor
done
get me out of here
please
:3
Im fine being italian
I need a guide to dodging licks
We're better
Damn sounds like someone is missing out
they have trouble licking to the side
Pinneaple pizza
Ok
Im allergic to pineapple
Rip
Noob
yippee im old enough
you love to see it
Yeah but when there's a dump truck full of them
๐
cant wait for them to dismantle the department of education
then you use guns
Imma dismantle you
Let me give You pinneapple pizza
(sexual)
Yo-
You Will like it
yes mommy ๐คค
Please no
Gone wrong, gone sexual
Is this new info
And You are not?
incorrect
we are too ๐ฏ๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ด๐
Hmm
So no crazy melee strat?
Im not freaky
if theres like 20 of them no
Eh
Doubt
if theres only a couple you can usually dodge them

๐ซ
If you say so
Hey Pablo. Who's gone?
Im a goner
@hoary crescent he is gone
Who's he? I'm asking who's gone
Coward
Why is America so founding fathers this founding fathers that
Gone is gone
Cuz we all have brain damage
I'm not quite sure even the founding fathers would want that
And half our population is uneducated
Bro
Gone's gone?!
America doesnt exist
That was like 250 years ago
Its not possible for a country that rtarded to exist
They could not have possibly predicted all the bullshit of the modern day
The fondling fathers want YOU
Ok~
You're a minor.
Fair
lol
And we need to not elect people pledging to dismantle the department of education, outlaw abortions and IUDs, require Christianity to be taught in schools, and discriminate against queer peopleb
Boop
It's a 200 year old document written by a bunch of crusty old white slave owners
But haha the liberals
I could own you tho
gtfo chat but it gets political
(racist? Sexual? You decide)
I didn't even process fondling fathers that was funny
We shoulda stayed with the articles of confederation and just collapsed
"Oh if you dont like X so much then move to country Y"
HHHH THANKS YOU
Sex slavery with mutual consent
Can't argue anymore smh
That's the plan
In democracies, people vote and pick who makes the laws
I'm white
If there's a wrench somewhere, that's the issue
The... the us is a Republic ๐
The best argument against democracy is 5 minutes conversation with the average voter
This is a real argument btw
I am not going to further this but imagine I said something
That I've seen
I imagine you said something witty and funny and I laugh
Ha ha ha
What I'm trying to say is
I'm looking at the states like it's a fiction TV show
You never know what happens next
And I got the caramel popcorn
If people want X, X should be there
Are you sure?
as along as it's the majority that's simply how it works
Just leaveโข๏ธ
I mean that's what I'm planning to do
Whenever my country does something I DO NOT LIKE I get that answer
LMAO
But if everyone just said "I have problems with this place, rather than trying to fix them or improve the country I'm gonna leave"
Shit would get bad
Why would you talk to someone that... creative
Pickrate balance. Devs look at the usage statistics of the weapons, see that Sniper is getting picked a lot, and, unaware of Sniper's actual in-game strength, who picks it, and why it gets picked often, it gets hit with a big nerf w/, presumably, the good faith belief that it is legitimately very strong and influential relative to other weapons.
It's the same, you get that reasoning wether Left or Right wins
"Gtfo" is very fitting, I just realised
It comes full circle
own me or own me? which one are we talking about
I don't want to have to choose between "kill kill kill murder kill" and "dementia man where am I"
Hey yeah this is the GTFO chat after all
Yeah
I dont really get one thing
When do you guys GTFO?
explain it to me as a non-american
The former/latter
Uhm
Also brain worm
GTFO the game dude. I cried when Abeo Dauda said I GTFO and left the country
ah yes, announcing that you have had worms in your brain is great for your campaigning
Trump was there for 4 years, when he won I heard he'd basically doom the world with nuclear apocalypse or make the country become a dictatorship or whatnot
It was underwhelming?
Even his own family is telling people not to vote for him
I mean he didn't start world war 3
I feel all of this is... exhagerated?
But he did make things a lot worse
^
if you ever want to feel depressed just remember - the pubs you see playing GTFO have the power to elect a madman into office in whichever country they're living in
US survived 4 years of Trump it's gonna survive another 30 years of Trump
Pulled out of the Paris agreement, huge tax breaks for the wealthy, in general got the masses worked up and set against each other
And then of course there was January 6th
I know
Noooo
Sorry can't contaminate myself with the fr*nch
Too bad, I ain't wearing protection
At least its not Quebec is not a compliment
Paris is not Nice!
My sister just visited Paris, she said it was a lovely place
Anyone seen that?
If you ignore the scammers
Paris is nice, Parisians are assholes
Learn the difference
Aren't you
I am
Maybe the real GTFO was the friends we made along the way
it was a joke monique, please
Also I don't like walking through cigarett
Yeah exactly
Beautiful architecture, shitty people
Imagine new Yorkers but in a cool lookin city
Like many big cities
You get Parisians
Fair
Oh god, Nice
No new Yorkers are less rude
I look up Nice and all i get is the UK National Institute for Clinical Excellence which I already look at a lot for my studies
It's unclear if the "parisians are assholes" phenomenon is due to it being Paris specifically or due to it just being a big city
Oh fuck you every french makes this joke I can't anymore ๐ญ
Do not fuck people
honhonhon oui oui baguette
well actually it's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence but the acronym doesn't have the health part in it
noooooooo
Hmmm
I'd be clinical
idk when they changed the name tbh
IP grabber
Yes
I'm outside
Im in new york
Idiot
Think
Pable
Think

R e a l, I got called Satanic because I'm Buddhist (Imagine if they know I'm gay lol), they say "Buddhist want be god themselves" like bro, WTF are you cooking on?

..
no
Wtf
Wtf is Jiggling auto P P ?
Hel auto pistol
My beloved, I loved it more that Carbine
Auto penis โค๏ธ
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ I've just fucking notice lol
Hot as fuck though ๐
my most embarrassing wipe on r4d2, i entered in last big main room with alarm lvl 8, wanted to just clear room of giant chargers, saw 1 in the middle, i thought whatever, it is probably just 1 more will be in room. The moment i shoot him, 3 MORE came from all sides, idk how 1 of them was right behind me
f
f
and because i had full infection, 1 lick from charger was enough to down me, ofc bots tried to revive me
if you're gonna shoot a room, especially one with bbcs, make sure you have a defensible place you can fall back to to clean
yeah, i was ready to run away, but that 1 bbc from behind...
Retreat to tactical position, nah.
Dodge BBC and Melee, YEEAAA-
generally i find a place to hold, map out a path there in my head
shoot once to pull the room
then hightail it back to that spot adn kil everything there
never saw 4 bbc in that room
how high was the fog?
a little higher, than middle path
mm yeah it would have been a pain to scout out the rest of that room for extra bbcs
ah well
lesson learned, i suppose
yeah, i literally saw only 1
how close is "right behind you"
Touching maybe.
i feel like he would have noticed a bbc breathing down his neck
i did like 3 shots with hel rifle to first bbc, and got downed
i think he was on first floor, while i shot from second
right below me
ahhh
and then licked you from the bottom floow before you could react
you hate to see it
i guess no, probably he quickly moved up on ladder, then licked me
still
feels bad
i usually dont kill things in the room i pull, i fall outside of the room
partly to funnel things together
but also because when i do that i know however many bads are in that room, they're all coming at me from the same direction
usually
i was so used to situation, when there are like 1-2 bbc in big room and 1 in each of side rooms
rngesus decided to fuck you over
yeah, it happens pretty often on r4d2, game dont want me to progress 
i will not do this with bots
tank error every 4 minutes, no thank youuu
i thought it was 2 minutes
according to Scaler guide it is 4
oh no it is 4 minutes
am stupid
still
idk bring scatter and wait for tank to scream?
who the f in dev team think, that this was a good idea 
they like to torment us
though honestly i respect it
they advertised this as a challenging game for most players
and they didnt hold back
tank error is a lot more manageable than you think it is
it is if you dont have 3 bots
few weeks ago i got spoiler from og r4e1 Scaler guide with title: Tank error alarm? something something and i thought, okay, maybe it will be one in like 10-15 minutes
theyre so awful with any armored enemy
secondary will be physically impossible
then i looked at alt r4e1 guide first few minutes, the moment he said 1 tank per 4 minutes i was like wtf
Si
you really should've dropped into taht level blind
not to mention all the sleeping hybrids and giants you gotta clear while the tank is hounding you
finding out it's a tank error in real time is one of the gtfo experiences of all time
Is there a chance I could be crazy enough to try r4e1 sec with bots (cconsole in, not doing cells section)
I still remember Mako dropping in and not recognizing the Tank distant scream spawn
I'd need to think of strats
you'd just be using solo strats lol
the bots can't defend or code hunt for you
kite forever
Spoilerssss
idk about layout of the level, but only reliable way to kill tank with bots is to bring sniper turrets
high ground?
theres a lot of places that you can get high ground on the tank in the first part of the level
lots of ledges/catwalks
if there are a tile, when you can get right above tank tumors, maybe
i mean its either that or just hide behind cover until it screams
not viable, takes too long
probably yeah
but by the time you kill one tank, second will come i guess
the error is one of the best parts in any mission in gtfo tbf
it really is
not to mention that fuckin s surge you gotta do while dealing with tanks
spawn cap tm
let bots die
solo kill tank
(definetly best play)
i have nothing against error alarms actually after beating r2-r4, but tank error is too much i think
at least not with 4 minutes cd 
i have something against r4c3 overload alarm specifically
tank error is the reason the level is good (that and secondary)
main is one of the most horribly designed and placed things ever
path to gens is cool too
clearing sleeping shadows in general just sucks anyway
ending is very neat
guess why people shoot those zones

yeah cant say i blame them
just pull the room 
i never bother to sneakily clear rooms with shadows
They gave you more ammo in ALT so you could shoot the rooms harder...
spoilers:
|| The fact that the strategy for getting to the main bulkhead door is to leave one of your teammates afk for 5 minutes in gen room unless the disinfection is in a good spot is fucking horrible ||
if there are no scouts
Random question. Eva. Didn't someone make a Guide or smth on double hits?
based
My memory might just be shit remembering If someone made one.
||or you can have 3 people cross and one person fog dives through after plugging cell and doesn't even end up with 30%, bonus points for carrying disinfect)||
solace
Kaiser
honestly just rn through
but yea
||Thats what happens if the disinfect is in a good spot, in almost all cases you either never find it or its out of the way in the fog so nobody ever considers fog diving to grab it||
its kinda ??
if yes, then either chill, tru or ray
ello eva
@work :/
i tried to do this yesterday on r4d2, but that bitch tank used the most crazy lick curve and killed me behind small glass wall 
again lmao
also im at min 13 rn
||If only it were like OG where in 96% of runs you'd actually fucking find fog repellers||
Aight. I'll check if it exists eventually if I remember after work.
my mom suddenly got in the way
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
|| real, i don't understand why that's so inconsistent in 459||
||in all my hours on R4E1 i've found fog repellers in that zone like 3 times||
||do they just sometimes not spawn or do they just spawn shittily||
||in og it was common for fog reps to spawn in all cell section zones, so you'd have them to cross after gen, you'd have them to grab turbine, and go code searching (I mean hell, you'd also get repellers spawning in mom zone)||
||cant say for sure tbh||
sucks
||i wonder why they made the change to remove those, they would've been awesome in alt||
In OG the fog was thicker too
idk if running alt with old school graphics mod
gives the same effect as og fog
but if it does, yeah, that shit is T H I C K
yeah just echolocate and remember the layout of every tile ( there are only 3 you need to memorise before you can basically navigate the entire game )
OG R2E1 was much harder, then alt? i looked at map, there are like 3 more massive zones after error door
you also had no hel weapons for the surge alarms
and no foam I think?
so you had to fight the alarms w sentries
i mean honestly you dont even need to memorize them
you get to a certain point where u just kind of get used to how the tiles are laid out
cant relate, i cleared with 3 turrets and tracker 
like even if you dont remmeber a specific room you're like it would make sense if there was a door over here
yeah
or at least a door spot
if I was doing it with bots i'd choose sentries too
much faster set up for the first surge alarm in the error
no foam???
yeah
turrets for the win
deadass, sentries on R2E1 and foam on R2E1 are equally good
i guess if you arent ladderfoaming then yeah
even with ladder foaming
you think so?
yes
against surges?
yes
hm
mm, cant agree on that
okay equally good
as in
overall
there are certain alarms where one is worse than the other etc
1st was easier
2nd didnt rly change aside from entrance to 3rd
3rd was massively harder
cuz turrets are just like wasting ammo almost cuz the shit just respawns immediately
but i think for the error, sentries are namely better
and you use 160% to foam the aldder anyway
You do not understand surge alarms.
like if you have 0 enemies on all surge alarms with ladderfoam it make rest of the lvl a cakewalk
possibly, but its nice to permafoam the last alarm
if you can get there in time
i know how they fuckin work
yeah, but having a guy sit there w three sentries does almost the same thing as long as they can hit left click
Double burst constantly respawning enemies is very good.
its not INSTANT
i dont specifically know how good nickle is ๐
but uuuh, nickle youve got some "interesting" takes sometimes
smd eva
Ladder foam is inconsistent, and doesn't offer protection after the foam evaporates.
i generally operate under the assumption that most of the people here know what they're talking about better than i do
alright that parts nice ill give you that
shaking your duck?
The only downside to double burst is that you consistently have to fight enemies.
you do get leaks yeah
trust ray, tru and the like
for others. never trust, always stay vigilant
beat them with a stick if they arent lookin
But if players are actually good, that is a non-issue, because it's not a lot of enemies compared to full surge.
never trust me
no
do trust me
my takes are 100% verified
Ladder foam is specifically better in pubs if your teammates are worthless, because it removes combat altogether.
double burst basically doesnt face enemies for any of the surges that matter either way
1st is free
2nd they dont do that much unless you double down and get a bit of rng (hybrids still suck)
3rd is free with sentries
4th and 5th are free with sentries
you can trust me 100% i have never been wrong in my entire life
pdw is the best gun in the game
yeah same
Ladderfoaming my beloved
you are a c-foam main
16clears with foam 1 legit e1 clear with sentries
CANCER
why it is inconsistent? isnt it like Use 80-90% of cfoam launcher and you are good?
because someties
enemies get through
We have used it in R4E1 and R2E1 speeds
I tryhard foam like ray showed in his tutorial
In both cases, we've had issues with foam running out way earlier than we need it.
if a hybrid reaches the ladder first it'll devour your c-foam
@modern coral you made a ladder foam guide?
Nah just door foam
iirc there are no hybrids on this surge
Cringe
i remember they did testing on it at some point
maybe not ray
but someone did
think you just arent using enough then
the shit was inconsistent before R8 came out, but smth freakin changed..
it got worse
ive ladderfoamed on r2e1 and in just about every case the foam easily lasts the length of the whole surge
me 
its not that its just generally inconsistent for some particular specific reason
but i wouldnt make a guide for it lol
I think it was something to do with enemies either choosing to jump or climb down the ladder
Im a ladderfoam main ask me all the questions
maybe ive just been lucky
Im cringe
its inconsistent if you want consistency
We are using 150% foam roughly on average.
but even minimal worth ladderfoam makes normal runs free
yes it was you!
you and random
i think
@modern coral what is ur pfp
i saw the like ribbing on the legs and my brain went dead space
with the fleshy shit too
i hate so many profile pictures now due to seeing them a lot clearer
is mine good

but upon closer inspection it does not appear to be dead space
whats ur opinion on mine
bro wtf even is yours
It'd be reasonable for it to be a random number like between 1-3 if they wanted to add some variety but you always have to get really lucky to find any lmao
is that a pari of glowing nostrils
it is the default discord pfp with dank memer's pls magik command applied to it once
๐ญ
dunno didnt care 
C-foam tripmines never have that issue
:(
is it spaceship from Galaga?
no its default pfp but distorted funny
lol
should go with spaceship from galaga tho
way cooler
i keep thinking yours looks ai generated
Every pfp is bad if its not anime
opinion invalid
i have never watched anime once in my life
ive seen clips of various animes
just doesnt seem like my typa shit
uhh ive watched studio ghibli
does that count
no, it is from game called Brutal Legend, face of God of fire or Heavy metal, Ormagรถden
that goes hard
spirited away
Mine probably ponyo
dak
mmm
we have beef now
those are respectable
that error
im a castle in the sky enthusiast myself
we have no friends
just wait till you see the next extract alarm
Btw. Have you seen what Yuki did to hel revo.
Idk if Yuki gave you the code to early test it-
the diff spike was crazy
sir it was not intended for duos
i'm fully aware of this
That is why
any time I complain
i'm not being ignorant saying "Ahh why is this so hard for 2 people"
im just
venting
alr
mmmmm
im coping
What happened
I haven't been able to get on
<3
Something something 5 pen
LMAO
Yuki is making a modded rundown
Ik
scares me
I am helping :3
What happened to revo
L
Fun fact. Yuki moved it to special and didn't change the ammo count.
mke ahve a gun :3
(This may or may not mean. You refill like 30 rounds)
I
What
Wh
Hmmmm
Well whenever I get back I will observe it in it's full beauty
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I'm happy for You
Or sorry that happened
Depends if Yuki decides to extend out early testing
he probably tried to activate wrong hsu on r1a1
So far I believe only Rose and I have
Wrong HSU
Look at the numbers of the HSU You are trying to interact with and the numbers of the HSU in your objective
I have the code
:3
Well I have one that doesn't work too
Something about fixing a gun
One of the weapons was messed up yes.
ah
1 weapon references Hange and another references Rose
ะฐ ัั ะฒะตัะฝัะน ะฝะฐัะตะป?
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how do i get rid of purple come on my face
huh
if you got liquid bugged and half your screen is tinted purple, rip
not much you can do about that
other than restart when the level is over
can restart your game mid lobby so long as you're not the host, i should say
What is pop-off sur?
Uhm actually it's a feature ofc
Purple lighting
Wait it wont be gone after some seconds?
guys what if
The purple tint?
No
Void bug sure
*Features โข๏ธ
Ye
Also
@balmy moat were you or jish who did e2 with Hel Shotgun and PR?
I dont remember
That's me
Thanks
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Also I was the guy trying to donate in your GTFO% speedrun live
But idk I couldn't
I don't have donos set up
I probably won't either
I just wanna stream for people to watch
Anyway I would donate something like 5 bucks because Brazil currency is dead 
With 5 us bucks you can already buy GTFO in Brazil currency lol
*with sale
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Oh no..
๐ฟ
Why'd you have to describe it like that
snatcher bug โ snatcher feature โ
hi
now carry me in e2
holy sht thats so cool
and its very recent as well
I have WAY too much time on my hands
Yup
Crazy
okie papi
Really cool! I always had an idea to do a plugin version of that, but designing a proper flashlight would be the biggest challenge
my static and I are trying to do r4e1 but we keep dying to the mother, any tips? i know we're supposed to use the cfoam mines on her but it doesn't seem to do the trick
where are you dying exactly?
cuz theres not just "a mother" 
there are monstas in the dark
@ancient hearth
there are monsters in the dark
so pmom and tank 
youd rly only use the cfoam tripmine to get her to stop moving
the scanna sez we are alone.... i do not trust the scanna....
i assume you are killing tank first?
Have HEL Shotgun or Shotgun deal with baby wave, probably with one helper. Everyone else DPS boss.
for pmom you rly only need to kill baby wave as ray said
after that killing pmom can even be done with melee easily
Having designated people that are at most half your team is kind of a big deal if you struggle w/ moms, imo.
Because then, you are able to massively damage her while she is spawning, which is when she is completely motionless.
vs. if everyone kills babies, and then you're only fighting her when she is running around and away from you.
tbf it kind of depends on the guns they are bringing

4 slug shotguns and snipers
and killing babies is gonna be interesting
no were all trying to kill the pmom asap
It is easier to zone off pmom for tank fight.
If you are crossing the pit in C, tank will typically rush you first, and you can fight him on his own while mom is milling about on the other side.
and should pmom decide to rush while you are fighting tank, just killing babies works fine honestly
^ If mom does rush, some people kill baby wave while other people keep fighting tank.
If you have the tank error consistent, you should really not have a problem fighting tank in a timely fashion.
If you struggle w/ tank error, you need to get good at tank error.
Shouldn't ever take more than 30s to kill one.
were really good at the rest of the level at this point
we've gotten to the boss two times in a row now
but we just get instantly overwhelmed by baby wave
i'll try bringing a shotgun to deal with the baby wave
is there anywhere we should camp? and we shouldn't split up right? so the baby wave doesn't split up
This should not be a problem if you are playing the mom fight correctly.
Because you should literally be at the mom shooting them as they are spawning.
also while shotgun is great for killing babies
its far easier to just have someone on hel shotgun
honestly
what guns are you running actually
Shotgun is good boss kill in general, tho, not a bad pick.
shotgun is "easy" to play but actually doing well in R4E1 is probably not that simple on it
Regular mom, shotgun, as client: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxj3zAJ8COw
IP grabber
Regular mom has 2/5ths HP relative to big mom.
thats certainly a loadout with 4 spears aswell 
Your HAR and HEL Rifle should be clearing baby wave
Using HAR and PDW.
PR and Scatter are DPS.
I'm the one with the scatter, the certified tank nuker
CS is worse than Shotgun for bosses and baby clear.
But HEL Rifle is fine, since you want some wave clear on the team.
im not doing wave clear i'm the one going back during the reactor
Pump shotty should be fine, though. Not sure I'd run CS simply because you don't really need to deal with smalls.
- you have a million ammo on back reactor.
we're spearmaxxers
so basically we run into the room with the mom, cfoam mine it, then we focus clear the baby wave and then shoot the mom to death, then focus on tank?
Also why are we focusing on specials for baby clear when the funny gun exists 
no?
I genuinely think HEL Shotgun is unintuitive to play, and also we ended up not playing it in our speedrun because it genuinely doesn't fit the level that well.
you dont have to rush mom
Let tank come out by holding at a specific spot (ray knows this better than i do)
Kill tank, then kill babies and pmom
You can cfoam tripmine the tank. Makes the whole thing easier
It would basically be a mom-only pick
Tbf
when they already have HAR, and could take Shotgun.
Sawed off baby clear goes hard
True.
ya hel shotgun isnt very useful in r4e1 sppeds
Also we insta-kill mom, lol.
the triple sawed off goes hard
It goes crazy.
Yea
Scatter and BC go brr

What is your c-foam mine setup?
mods please ban frosty he is being naughty in chat
do you get audio logs when itโs played to the whole team
directly under the mom
Because if it's not foamed literally insta, it has very low value.
Because mom will birth anyway
When tho?
NOOOOOOOOOO
immediately
Does she start birth?
@crude isle I think this run showcases a very good strat for the double boss which would work well with your loadout:
https://youtu.be/ZZkDGINZHU8?si=EoZ0QvR1K-7eCicw&t=10126
yeah
If she starts birth
then foam mine has to be delayed
because it's not doing anything
You are getting full birth
and you are making her immobile at a time when she is already not moving
Team, we want them to kill tank first, surely
That's what I said, tbh.
Rushing in is a speed/gigachad strat
and not actually very safe or reliable (unless you're very good, and are prepared to do it).
They do not have the boss kill to reliably kill her when rushing in
Yes
1 person can realiably clear baby wave if smth goes wrong if they know how to
ya
They should kill tank first, and they are using scatter to do so, so they should aim for a c-foam tripmine on tank, around a corner where P-mom can't peek
Tank will be the bigger issue
This is roughly what we did in duo, tbh.
Although we went across pit.
I think both fight spots work.
And killed with sniper, ye?
Yeah, Revo grabs aggro, Sniper does dmg.
wait really? it seemed fine to hey wait a minute I'm a bit too experienced to have this problem
And they're killing with scatter, P-mom very likely to peek if they're using pit
They should use the corner
Corner is fine.
simplest pmom strat is probably everyone shoots babies and then you've eliminated most the danger from the situation
She was very well behaved for us, and whenver I've done this in pubs tank is usually quite low if she does push.
I don't think she actually can birth over the gap.
I think some groups will struggle to damage her outside of birth.
Gotta take yer knife out
And hunt like the londoners
maybe so, but there's still the principle of no babies = no wipe
They just run out of ammo, tbh.
which might actually kill them
ya that could happen
we'll try this, thanks
frosty just said the n word please ban him mods
i mean it's the team's first clear, is it really that out of the ordinary if they go for an extra reactor trip to restock on resources?
WHAT
you know what you did
get this guy outta here
framed for racism
Killing mom first is very unstable w/ your loadout @crude isle
Because you're not kitted to kill her right away
and after you inevitably don't one-cycle her, tank is going to be damaging you non-stop, and any downs makes mom even harder to kill and baby waves get way more dangerous.
Which is why tank first is generally preferred, because most groups will not run triple boss kill.




