I'm quite certain betterbots is qol, right?
#gtfo-chat
honest parrot
We do let qol mods on bcs the game is shit without them
Well not really shit
But it brings a lot to the table
lost lynx
I'm quite certain betterbots is qol, right?
Yeah but
Better bots with the aim bot is straight up cheating
honest parrot
They could also be stupid and sniper you at the back
honest parrot
yea...
rose nova
u don't need mods for bot runs until very deep levels
or just more intensive levels like some r5 shit
fresh jacinth
regardless of aimbot, I'd probably prefer to just have a goodly coordinated team of hoomans rather than try to improve the bots tbh
honest parrot
You can easily find people here at all hours on lfg beginners
We're always around
Slendo would do his thing if you want to know about it
lost lynx
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
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fresh jacinth
might need to convince my friend to try out a LFG here, he's a bit shy with regards to playing with online strangers
honest parrot
might need to convince my friend to try out a LFG here, he's a bit shy with rega...
Eh, it's not too bad
As long as it's not a troll
rose nova
Slendo would do his thing if you want to know about it
pablo just takes the easy way out smh
lost lynx
i got art in my craft u just do ai
:(
rose nova
:[
honest parrot
might need to convince my friend to try out a LFG here, he's a bit shy with rega...
Either way, happy you're around
fresh jacinth
o7
rose nova
even if u met some level that is too intensive for bots u can always jump to the next rundown till u feel ready to LFG
[that's the play when u met a very hard level too with a full team either way]
:3
lost lynx
avoid joining E tiers for now :3
rose nova
so for some r2 d tier u can just do r3
honest parrot
r2c2 is going to be a pain for them tho
rose nova
r2c2 is going to be a pain for them tho
ehhhhg
i think c2 isn't really terrible with bots
i played it 3 bots before
lost lynx
C2 is very easy if you learn the map
rose nova
C2 is very easy if you learn the map
i mean so is every other level
lost lynx
but obviously that takes trial and error
honest parrot
Which you'll have to die like a few times for
fresh jacinth
avoid joining E tiers for now :3
how spicy is R1E1? :')
lost lynx
how spicy is R1E1? :')
r1e1 doesnt exist
honest parrot
how spicy is R1E1? :')
There's no E1 for R1
lost lynx
only r2,r4,r5,r7 and r8 have E tiers
fresh jacinth
oh right
honest parrot
Either way E tiers will kill you
fresh jacinth
oh I've heard as much, no worries
honest parrot
Like unless you know the map inside out
lost lynx
R2E1 is the easiest of the E tiers (r8e1 doesnt count) and is a real pain in the ass
so get your ass ready
:3
lost lynx
R2E1 is the easiest of the E tiers (r8e1 doesnt count) and is a real pain in the...
btw its like the 5th-6th hardest level in the game
honest parrot
(this is brought to you by the guy that could never remember where the generator is on R2E1)
lost lynx
r3b2 moment
honest parrot
Yeah C1
lost lynx
C1 giant spawns 💀
honest parrot
Where people complain that they can't find the hsu when C1 error starts
rose nova
giants?
that/ never bothered me but ok KDMSMD
honest parrot
Despite the terminal being RIGHT THERE
lost lynx
giants?
that/ never bothered me but ok KDMSMD
i had a couple runs where they spawned on me
literally on me
rose nova
lol
lost lynx
not on me
INSIDE ME
rose nova
ur thinkin of d1 arent u
lost lynx
nope
rose nova
then idk how :3
jolly urchin
chat i did it
honest parrot
chat i did it
what
honest parrot
i beat r1a1 solo <:z_sob:1186543523995062302>
Grats
rose nova
:3
lost lynx
i beat r1a1 solo <:z_sob:1186543523995062302>
GGs
rose nova
somewhere in my 400 hours of GTFO footage
search it
rose nova
ok didn't happens
lost lynx
ill send you my hardrive
rose nova
ok i don't believe u cause ||no alarm on c1 spawns giants unless u actively go outside in the first alarm to other rooms||
lost lynx
im going to expose that one time you called Eva goober
rose nova
:3
lost lynx
ok i don't believe u cause ||no alarm on c1 spawns giants unless u actively go o...
giants or chargers
one of those
rose nova
well
but like ||if u got spawned chargers on top then yes of course but giants???||
like
where
lost lynx
but like ||if u got spawned chargers on top then yes of course but giants???||
it was chargers
not giants
rose nova
C1 giant spawns 💀
smh smh
rose nova
no :3
rose nova
good i'll give u pizza
lost lynx
also reply to the steam comments
rose nova
i cannot open my pc i have to download phone steam
lost lynx
then do it
rose nova
sleeps
lost lynx
fresh jacinth
9pm more like 5am
having extremely flexible awake hours is a curse, not a blessing
especially when you're tempted to stay awake to hang out and game with US friends
honest parrot
Me being in asia
lost lynx
you know
i hate how im so used to waking up at 5AM
even if i go to sleep at 4Am i wake up at 5am and cant sleep anymore
lost lynx
Me being in asia
wait, where are you from?
honest parrot
HK
lost lynx
HK?
lost lynx
hows Winnie Pooh over there
rose nova
~~9pm more like 5am~~
erm ur bio says 12 for me is 5 for u
fresh jacinth
pm or am
rose nova
[also go sleep smh]
honest parrot
lul
lost lynx
Slendo
lost lynx
read :3
lost lynx
🐟 ?
honest parrot
Oh btw Snowball
fresh jacinth
it's not 12 rn
it's the best you can do to give someone a dynamic indicator of like, the timezone offset
rose nova
my time zone is just the time i like playing
honest parrot
They'll need to know, cause you know
They can't be up all the time
lost lynx
my time zone is just the time i like playing
2AM?
honest parrot
Yeah but how many statics here are from the same zone
rose nova
i am sleepy that's what i am
fresh jacinth
If you're going to try and find a static
a static as in, a regular to play with?
lost lynx
a static as in, a regular to play with?
yeah
honest parrot
a static as in, a regular to play with?
A regular group
fresh jacinth
righto, yee
honest parrot
Some of us prefer that over lfg live
But just know most of them don't last very long
Burnout with this game is crazy
fresh jacinth
oh, I'm already expecting this game to become a longterm endeavor
honest parrot
Don't be surprised if all your friends try and quit the game
Happens to a lot of people
Hell my old static doesn't even play gtfo anymore
fresh jacinth
😔
lost lynx
True
worthy flicker
It's a shame cause the game really is quite good.
stuck inlet
i love it
fresh jacinth
GTFO has a one in 4 rention rate
I've known about GTFO for ages, have been watching a bit of content about it every now and then, and now that I've actually tried it out I definitely love the challenge and the strategy and cooperation required
so I consider myself already retained 
pine root
I've known about GTFO for ages, have been watching a bit of content about it eve...
oof feels bad that your stuck here now
balmy moat
Don’t be like me who got social engineered to stay 
blissful dome
I've known about GTFO for ages, have been watching a bit of content about it eve...
its jover for you
fresh jacinth
honest parrot
Don’t be like me who got social engineered to stay <a:kms:881729124861902928>
Actually wtf is this supposed to mean
honest parrot
Created by Jish and Bread
Did they make you stay for some reason?
balmy moat
Yuh, speedrunning
uneven badger
r2d1 time
uneven badger
Need advice? Or just annoucing it here for no reason?
I need advice
honest parrot
I need advice
What do you know about the level?
uneven badger
What do you know about the level?
Many rooms, lotta fog, many scouts
daring ginkgo
On r4d2 pe run should i blast my way through main zones until the end (after killing scouts) because of fog timer?
I mean, if there are enough resources for doing this, cause there are quite a bit of giants/chargers in rooms
near stag
On r4d2 pe run should i blast my way through main zones until the end (after kil...
If you REALLY need your time, there is a Side Mission to get a cell to get a fog Turbine.
daring ginkgo
I am worried, that on last few zones i will be screwed when fog comes, esp vs tank
Fog turbine will not help me there
Although it is idea too
near stag
Normally you have more than enough time to get to the Tank with barely any fog. Its only on your way Back to get the lunchbox where you should be concerned about it
daring ginkgo
There are 30 minutes timer?
near stag
There are 30 minutes timer?
Wdym
daring ginkgo
Until fog will consume full lvl or something like that
near stag
Dont know the exact Times, but it is pretty slow
trim sail
by the time you're done with the Tank, the fog surely slowly rising but it's not fully infectious.
when you head back to the cargo, then that's the real challenge starts
daring ginkgo
I am equally excited and terrified, because i will have 3 main problems doing it with bots:
- last few chargers alarms;
- TANK
- carrying box on shadow error alarm
pine root
On r4d2 pe run should i blast my way through main zones until the end (after kil...
Get the fog turbine
Play the level correctly
The tank doesn’t matter you can solo it from the stairs in the class 8 room pretty easy it just takes forever
trim sail
ey yo...
daring ginkgo
The tank doesn’t matter you can solo it from the stairs in the class 8 room pret...
🤔
pine root
I am equally excited and terrified, because i will have 3 main problems doing it...
The alarm you should be worried about is the class 8 the class 7 can be perma foamed and the class 6 has a long spawn distance class 5 also has an insane funnel
unreal crystal
yea u probs just end up playing it slow tbh
pine root
Yeah with bots there is no reason to rush anything
daring ginkgo
True, i kinda forgot about turbine
unreal crystal
dw everyone does
pine root
Most players are stupid
daring ginkgo
Turbine in room with another alarm?
pine root
Surge alarm? But you get insane red and it is in the insane funnel room
daring ginkgo
I watched Scaler video, there are optional room with alarm, forgot which one
pine root
only end up fighting one of the waves so don’t get scared about the fact it is a surge
daring ginkgo
Surge alarm? But you get insane red and it is in the insane funnel room
Wdym Insane red?
daring ginkgo
Ok, thanks, i will try this approach today
pine root
you get all the resources back from surge
pine root
I think just packs
daring ginkgo
Ok
pine root
For class 8 idk how to make that easier tbh
near stag
Arent they Like coming from 3 directions with effectively 6 Doors?
Or am i remembering the wrong door? It was the apex wasnt it?
daring ginkgo
Arent they Like coming from 3 directions with effectively 6 Doors?
5 doors
near stag
If you foam all of them it can be fine, but the question is then whether you have Tools or not
daring ginkgo
Yeah, on this level i must use foam myself
For perma foaming class 7 at least
9 blobs is how much% ? 13-15?
near stag
12 is 20%
tall hawk
12 is 20% so
daring ginkgo
Ok, need around 80% for 5 doors
tall hawk
a little under
near stag
9 blobs is how much% ? 13-15?
Yeah it is 15%
daring ginkgo
I am also worried about shadow error alarm, r4c2 flashbacks xd
near stag
If you dont Break all Doors, you will have enough to Stall them
daring ginkgo
Hardest thing is to get out of overload zone
Enemies spawn quickly and cargo in the furthest end of this zone
near stag
Hardest thing is to get out of overload zone
Pick Up Cargo -> drop it -> Go to secondary and gather all shadows in there -> Return for the lunchbox
Its Not glued to your hands
daring ginkgo
This level feels like a mix of r4c2 and r4c3 ngl
daring ginkgo
Pick Up Cargo -> drop it -> Go to secondary and gather all shadows in there -> R...
I am scared to do this with bots 😅
Well, maybe i kick all bots except one with tracker
And try to pull this
pallid anvil
Don’t think there is any other way to do that level with bots without shadow kiting
daring ginkgo
I can just run to exit? Like r4c2
mellow hedge
You kill them 🤡
pallid anvil
Yeah but he needs to do main alarms thigh boy
daring ginkgo
Need some rng with back spawns tho
pallid anvil
He cant perma foam since bots dont do scans
mellow hedge
Yeah but he needs to do main alarms thigh boy
Mb queen will never question you again
tall hawk
I can just run to exit? Like r4c2
only thing in your way is 1 security door to extraction and a certain thing if you didn't kill it after the class 8
near stag
He cant perma foam since bots dont do scans
7 is small enough to Run back and place Bots into the scans
mellow hedge
Ehhhhh
pallid anvil
Mb queen will never question you again
Meow :3
mellow hedge
I would just get foggies and use hel rifle
pallid anvil
7 is small enough to Run back and place Bots into the scans
Probably the only one though
mellow hedge
Also do overload once main is clear
daring ginkgo
only thing in your way is 1 security door to extraction and a certain thing if y...
I assume i open last apex door and kill tank before i go to cargo
tall hawk
ofc
near stag
I assume i open last apex door and kill tank before i go to cargo
Just dont Open the extract door
daring ginkgo
So no obstacles left?
pallid anvil
I say solo it instead of bot gaming
mellow hedge
Just dont Open the extract door
You can open extract door just don’t step into room
daring ginkgo
Just dont Open the extract door
W8, extraction alarm activates after i OPEN door?
mellow hedge
W8, extraction alarm activates after i OPEN door?
No once you step in the extract room
honest parrot
W8, extraction alarm activates after i OPEN door?
No it activates on stepping in... most of the tiem
tall hawk
You can open extract door just don’t step into room
til
pallid anvil
You can open extract door just don’t step into room
Le troll
daring ginkgo
No once you step in the extract room
Ok, sheesh
honest parrot
Don't be sad
pallid anvil
:3
mellow hedge
It’s over for you
tall hawk
mods can we fact check this
mellow hedge
Don’t ban me please
honest parrot
It is stepping into the scan that triggers it
mellow hedge
No
honest parrot
That's the exception
mellow hedge
I also vividly remember it from the streamathon
tall hawk
no shadow spawn cap? cringe
tall hawk
lmao
pallid anvil
Shadow cap > do 1 scan > kite whole map > repeat
3h solo incoming
tall hawk
go long
mellow hedge
Me after banging your mum
pallid anvil
That’s not kind
mellow hedge
Sorry 😔
pallid anvil
LF bravo oblivion
mellow hedge
Rose wanna duo r4e1 when I get back 😜
pallid anvil
Rose wanna duo r4e1 when I get back 😜
Asking to duo when my ass keeps crashing mid games
:3
pallid anvil
Rose wanna duo r4e1 when I get back 😜
Wanna duo oblivion? :3
tall hawk
LF R4E1 duo (I will lag and die)
mellow hedge
wtf is that
pine root
Pick Up Cargo -> drop it -> Go to secondary and gather all shadows in there -> R...
But once you drop it the chargers spawn
Reeee
mellow hedge
near stag
But once you drop it the chargers spawn
mellow hedge
Jish when gtfo% 100%
pallid anvil
Okay we do that
Yipee
daring ginkgo
Also i have a question about sleeping tank behavior, when he wake up will he bend his spine? What i mean is can i place mines on floor very close to his back tumors, then shoot him from behind, he will bend, like basic strikers, touch mine line with tumors, explodes and die?
trim sail
sounds good...
honest parrot
How many mines do you have?
daring ginkgo
Assuming i have 7-8
honest parrot
It's kinda hard to do it without it twitching
daring ginkgo
Iirc 7 mines is enough
near stag
Also i have a question about sleeping tank behavior, when he wake up will he ben...
Would be a nice qol Mod for him to burst all His Tumors during that Animation 
mellow hedge
Also i have a question about sleeping tank behavior, when he wake up will he ben...
Don’t think so
Idk tho
honest parrot
You can try with a checkpoint tank
there's one level that has one right?
Oh wait that one's awake
mellow hedge
Ok, i will test it in modded gtfo
MODS GET THIS GUYS HES MODDDDIIINNNGGGGG
daring ginkgo
I only use mods for testing stuff, dont kill me pls
honest parrot
He's just kidding, dw
latent palm
near stag
shut vapor
mellow hedge
Hello please entertain me on my train ride
honest parrot
Hello please entertain me on my train ride
Train ride to where?
mellow hedge
Hamburg
honest parrot
Summer trip I'm guessing?
With family?
Well, I don't suppose that's my place to ask
We've been getting a few strange people around the server recently
Less trolls, which is always good
But more just weirdos
Do you play with randos still Frosty?
chilly hedge
anyone on?
honest parrot
anyone on?
Most of the folk are in #lfg-beginners
You can check there
Asking here is the same as asking the next room if the other room has people
We don't really know
Have fun tho
robust dawn
Tf
honest parrot
Tf
He's probably just annoyed no one's joining him
Probs just some time zone stuff
burnt flume
Hello please entertain me on my train ride
I looove you, come visit and ill pay for dinner
Otherwise idk I can stream something over discord if you have train wifi or something
mellow hedge
Do you play with randos still Frosty?
Sometimes
mellow hedge
Summer trip I'm guessing?
No just a Europe trip lmao
Idk if you know but I’m from Australia
mellow hedge
Otherwise idk I can stream something over discord if you have train wifi or some...
Ahhh it’s alright I’ve been watching TikTok and stuff and will probably nap lmao
burnt flume
Your ping says so
And his accent definitely does not
honest parrot
(I haven't talked to australians before so i genuinely don't know)
burnt flume
Ahhh it’s alright I’ve been watching TikTok and stuff and will probably nap lmao
Rest well
mellow hedge
I’ve been laughed at by multiple people for my slang 😔
honest parrot
(and my memories shot up to hell so I don't remember either)
Either way, at least I hope you'll enjoy your time there
Sometimes looking forward to stuff is a way of making the time pass
burnt flume
I’ve been laughed at by multiple people for my slang 😔
To borrow from the scouse dialect - that's proper tosh la
mellow hedge
Sometimes looking forward to stuff is a way of making the time pass
Oh I’m definitely looking forward to stuff
burnt flume
Sometimes looking forward to stuff is a way of making the time pass
Thinking is nice
Or music, think while listening to music
or simply get lost in the music
burnt flume
Genre?
latent palm
mellow hedge
Yeah not really my thing tbh
I pretty much only listen to Polaris and a few other songs lmao
Going to see them twice when I get back as well
Aussie bands ftw
honest parrot
Nice
daring ginkgo
Good ol heavy metal is the shit
Agree 
burnt flume
Gtfo community karaoke night when
unreal crystal
I pretty much only listen to Polaris and a few other songs lmao
Based
unreal crystal
very goated band
mellow hedge
Can’t wait to see them live again later this month
burnt flume
Do you use ear protection when you go to concerts?
mellow hedge
Well I’ve only ever been to 3 and used them in one of those
When I saw Polaris the first time I saved my ears until them then I didn’t care
But I went to copenhell a couple weeks ago and didn’t have any and that was loud af
But I got to see a7x so I’m happy
burnt flume
For my first* real concert I only used them for the acoustic set
a7x is a cool band but I haven't listened to more than a handful of their songs
burnt flume
checks out with the metalcore stuff
mellow hedge
They played too much of their new stuff lmao
unreal crystal
I listened to their new album twice
it is not it
Nobody was fine but after that it just kept going downhill
burnt flume
think I listened to their first single or whatever off that album and I cannot remember it at all
mellow hedge
Yeah one of the songs had a catchy chorus and I like the drums in Mattel but that’s about it
burnt flume
Just that I thought it was weird shit
mellow hedge
But I like their old stuff like unholy confessions, almost easy, nightmare, blah blah blah
They have some good lesser known songs like crossroads and demons that I like
I’ve played some of their songs in performances before
mellow hedge
I’m not in a fully established band atm
My last band was just my high school band which broke up after
But I’m starting a new one
I literally haven’t played my drums in 6 months tho
Actually a bit longer
Gotta get on that shit and actually learn the Polaris songs I tabbed out
burnt flume
I need to buy a keyboard and start knocking off some sick tunes
burnt flume
I don't think I have a great deal of space for any instruments rn tbh, at least not in this student accomm
zealous depot
Has anyone tips for R1C1 im kinda stuck there
honest parrot
Has anyone tips for R1C1 im kinda stuck there
defend at the bridges and have code person go back early
Instead of reactor room
wintry zinc
Has anyone tips for R1C1 im kinda stuck there
my tip is, have one guy always type in the code, and let him do it like last 5 seconds instead of right away
while everyone else goes out and scavenges for resources
this buys more time and also do not be shy to go deeper in for things later on
daring ginkgo
Has anyone tips for R1C1 im kinda stuck there
You play with real people or with bots?
zealous depot
real
daring ginkgo
Ok, tips from above will help you
zealous depot
yeah someone also told me a bunch of tips in the dms
shut vapor
If you aren't using sentries then I recommend it
daring ginkgo
Yeah, reactor levels are usually 3 turrets + tracker
zealous depot
We were using sentries but ammo ran out on the later waves
shut vapor
gun ammo or sentry ammo
near stag
Has anyone tips for R1C1 im kinda stuck there
The orange Truck Providers a remarkable vantage Point + protection from sleepers. Perfect Spot for a sniper
shut vapor
and then health <:Sweating:842618241401618462>
If you have auto sentry, then you should opt in for others
as for weapons, try not to shoot the same enemy as your teammates
zealous depot
If you have auto sentry, then you should opt in for others
we had mostly one burst,sniper and a hel sentry
near stag
we had mostly one burst,sniper and a hel sentry
Hel sentry eats through ammo. Either use it in a escape Route in Case you get pushed Back, or drop it completely and Take a burst sentry to Stop them from pushing you Back in the First place
wintry zinc
We were using sentries but ammo ran out on the later waves
sentry ammo is a must this mission
the moment you're out of it they will swarm you
imagine it as having +1 ally, that's how useful they are
civic forum
good evening folks
daring ginkgo
Hello
near stag
good evening folks
Good afternoon lad
civic forum
Good afternoon lad
It's 08:36 PM here
near stag
It's 08:36 PM here
And its 1:37 PM on my side
civic forum
😮
honest parrot
It's nearly dinner for me
pastel dagger
It's 420 quite soon
uneven badger
Any tips for R2D2
pastel dagger
Play it, remember when and where to go, where to defend past a certain point, where packs are and shit
Tbh it's a very fun level that is easiest to make scuffed
So just have fun
burnt flume
Hold bridge, 3 sentries, 1 person can keep an eye behind in later waves, another person can be rotating back and forth to help.defence on both sides
Don't loot everything in the reactor immediately, save stuff for later waves
Make sure you thoroughly loot the zones you're going into while looking for codes
pastel dagger
One time we thoroughly looted last code that is not given zone. And we forgor about the code.
That was a reminder that it's 3 minutes instead of 17
daring ginkgo
I saw videos about r4d2 bug, where main and overload scan zones can overlap so you can do both scans in same time, is it still exist?
mellow hedge
I saw videos about r4d2 bug, where main and overload scan zones can overlap so y...
No it got patched
burnt flume
There is a separate funny thing where if you time a bulkhead scan to finish right as another one appears, both scans go off and you get access to both
But good luck with that one
neon fulcrum
Any tips for R2D2
Google R2D2 wiki to look ahead for what you need to do and R2D2 GTFO map on steam so you know where you're going.
jagged citrus
Any tips for R2D2
get used to losing
first time i ever cleared it, took me n my party a week of attempts
but its a lot of fun
little ridge
Any tips for R2D2
Either hold on bridge or in Reactor room, dont hold in weird places cause it can end badly (waves struggling to get to you means that they die too slow which means that you're gonna take longer to finish them which means that you'll have less time to get the new code)
pastel dagger
Do shotgun achievement on r2d2
daring ginkgo
Yeah, your ass will be kicked hard 
mellow hedge
Hello
honest parrot
Hello
How was the train ride?
Hope there's no delays in its scheduling if its a multistop one
pastel dagger
who needs range 🙃
flashlight
jagged citrus
real
daring ginkgo
Also i have a question about sleeping tank behavior, when he wake up will he ben...
so i tested this and it is No to both questions: tank will not bend when i aggro him, he instantly turns in my side and for some reason mines placed directly under his tumors ( he triggered them while twtching ) does not kill him for some reason xd
ugh, why mining tank is so complicated, why he is not coded to take damage from mines at any angle
like come on, it is EXPLOSION, aoe damage
jagged citrus
is slapping a couple dozen mines on the upper half of a door not working?
daring ginkgo
i cannot place mines that high, cause bot will carry mine deployer and for some reason they cannot aim higher then their neck/head
jagged citrus
lmao bruh
thats just fuckin perfect
hmm
if you have guns that can do enough damage quickly you can light him up from behind and force a stagger?
stagger into mines?
daring ginkgo
i am trying few spots rn
also i havent such weapons, i will use hel shotgun + hel rifle/gun
junior latch
ugh, why mining tank is so complicated, why he is not coded to take damage from ...
because its not intended lol
jagged citrus
cant tell if ur being sarcastic or not
jolly imp
Will DoW be similar or the same to GTFO in terms of difficulty?
unreal crystal
probably easier
jolly imp
probably easier
😥😥😥 like from Sekiro -> Bloodborne difficulty?
lost lynx
Will DoW be similar or the same to GTFO in terms of difficulty?
easier than GTFO but still hard
rose nova
😥😥😥 like from Sekiro -> Bloodborne difficulty?
we rlly don't know anything about DoW yet
what probs it does have is more difficulty options rather than being just the same
jolly imp
easier than GTFO but still hard
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
jagged citrus
dont worry theres still plenty of cbt in this game for you\
lost lynx
easier than GTFO but still hard
they said this btw
unreal crystal
Well I’d say both those games are pretty hard so idk what kinda comparison that is
one has orphan the other has isshin gl
jolly imp
we rlly don't know anything about DoW yet
what probs it does have is more diffic...
Fuck difficulty "options" on the menu tbh, it ruined the intended expierience (RE4R is supposed to be played in professional for full expierience for example) and turned it into Game Mechanic (Overload, Prisoner Efficiency)
rose nova
what
idek know anything about resident evil games
i just know some were made to be played on normal difficulty cause it tweaked itself if the players died a lot or not
jolly imp
what
because most of the time, "difficulty options" aren't balance around Fundamental's Difficulty
sharp siren
idek know anything about resident evil games
i just know some were made to be pl...
wrong
jolly imp
idek know anything about resident evil games
i just know some were made to be pl...
I played Re2R Hardcore as my first blind
lost lynx
didn't resi 4 original had that
i been misinfo
if you died a lot enemies spawn changed
thats pretty much it
sharp siren
difficulty its not adapting resource
jolly imp
It's one of the best survival immersion I've ever experience
sharp siren
it just adjust the drops you get from enemies that all it does
so if you lacking pistol ammo the game will start dropping more handgun ammo
and the health of some of the bosses
rose nova
i'm seeing two different tales here
one that says spawned changed other props changed
jolly imp
i'm seeing two different tales here
one that says spawned changed other props ch...
What?
sharp siren
in some of the resident evils it does change some of the spawns
lost lynx
i'm seeing two different tales here
one that says spawned changed other props ch...
they do both dummy
sharp siren
my man arguing with people that actually played the games
when he didnt play the games
rose nova
i'm arguing with ur sentence mix make better ytphs
sharp siren
lost lynx
i'm arguing with ur sentence mix make better ytphs
ytphs?
sharp siren
ytphs
lost lynx
ytphs
rose nova
ypths
lost lynx
i ytphs
sharp siren
dont ytphs me
jolly imp
because most of the time, "difficulty options" aren't balance around Fundamental...
well what I mean by this is, "Survival Horror" has "Survival" in it, It should only have resource that make you "Closely Survive" , make "horror" feels like a real uncompromising threat
sharp siren
ypths
for the sake of simplicity it changes a lot of things but its not like it makes the game difficult
rose nova
for the sake of simplicity it changes a lot of things but its not like it makes ...
yes i understand i was just confused by ur wording that's it
sharp siren
yeah right....
rose nova
i assimilated you- cálmese pues
sharp siren
rose nova
i assimilated you and pablo's sentences separately kdmskd
sharp siren
you should play resident evil
jolly imp
well what I mean by this is, "Survival Horror" has "Survival" in it, It should o...
Which is GTFO done right in "Optional Difficult" with optional objectives
sharp siren
theyre like the most fun games
rose nova
and i didnt understood u were complementing each other
that's not the word
complemented*
also high difficulty it's not a must for survival games cause Cry of fear for example, it's high difficulty is just challenge runs
the normal difficulty is the actual like storyline difficulty
sharp siren
you can play on wichever difficulty you want
rose nova
of course this is not the case with every game
sharp siren
thats all subjective
rose nova
but some
sharp siren
i played alien isolation in nightmare difficulty first playtrough
worst mistake of my life
but it was tense and gave me the survival horror experience
jolly imp
also high difficulty it's not a must for survival games cause Cry of fear for ex...
No, I mean like, the way sekiro has "difficulty" mod that blend smoothly with the game itself (Giving Kuro the Buddha Kid's Charm back or Demonbell)
rose nova
the difficulty just depends on how much it was taken into account by the dev to add to the horror experience, and how much it was made just to give a bigger challenge for gameplay purposes or something among those lines
jolly imp
but it was tense and gave me the survival horror experience
Yeah, SEEE!
jolly imp
Yeah, SEEE!
That's the point
sharp siren
the difficulty just depends on how much it was taken into account by the dev to ...
it depends on how you play too
you can speedrun a horror game
and rush from script to script
my ass its subjective
rose nova
yeah
i come back to cry of fear and comparing it
Total Chaos which is another game, it's new game plus it's very much explicitly for horror purposes
but cry of fear max difficulty is PURELY gameplay purposes, with limited saves and enemy stats
honest parrot
The hell's the discussion rn?
daring ginkgo
what level is this?
r4d2
rose nova
The hell's the discussion rn?
difficulty in horror games
daring ginkgo
i will just use sniper turret, found good spot for sniping
honest parrot
Well I can't stand horror so I'll stay out of this
little ridge
I had an idea for a mod to make GTFO a survival horror
jolly imp
The hell's the discussion rn?
Difficulty option in games and its effect on the audience interpretation on the craft
jolly imp
I had an idea for a mod to make GTFO a survival horror
It is now?
little ridge
Only guns are Pistol/Shotgun, melee does 1/4 of the damage and stagger doesn't exist anymore, no bots, 100% solo, enemies do 4 times the damage but there's way less than now. Alarms are 1 wave only, Scouts aren't killable.
jolly imp
I mean, you didn't feel like "The Smartest Squad" if GTFO or RoN was set to easy yeah?
little ridge
It is now?
No
pine root
GTFO is an arcade movement shooter
jolly imp
GTFO is an arcade movement shooter
lol The Slide dodge tech
little ridge
GTFO is a weird concoction of a shooter with some """stealth/tactical""" elements
rose nova
my bottom line point is difficulty on menu screens is not bad for horror, it's just mostly accessibility which is good in almost all cases
depending on the game starting on max difficult for horror purposes is valid but on others it's very much not intended, like all horror games with New game plus modes that unlock after finishing the game. those are just made to experience it differently after finishing the game itself
little ridge
And melee I guess
pine root
You don’t need movement abilities to make a movement shooter ngl
jolly imp
I would labeled it as "T A C T I C A L Horror Shooter" then?
pine root
but it isn’t tactical
pine root
you hold W
little ridge
I would labeled it as "T A C T I C A L Horror Shooter" then?
I used a fucktillion of quotes because I lack a proper term for "prepare for waves"
little ridge
Even then if there's one thing that the busted Better Bots has proven is that a guy that knows the game with 3 savant FPS players can decimate the content
vernal nebula
jolly imp
Even then if there's one thing that the busted Better Bots has proven is that a ...
Tbh, the bot's kinda suck and there's reason the game was tied into official discord
rose nova
cause it didn't had matchmaking originally?
little ridge
Tbh, the bot's kinda suck and there's reason the game was tied into official dis...
No what I mean is that you can kinda bruteforce a lot of stuff by just aiming very well
Of course not knowing what to do is a problem but it ain't rocket science either tbh
jolly imp
No what I mean is that you can kinda bruteforce a lot of stuff by just aiming ve...
Like, kill ALL the enemies?
lost lynx
Like, kill ALL the enemies?
you dont have to kill all
just the ones that stand in your way
little ridge
Like, kill ALL the enemies?
There's a mod that adds aimbot to bots, basically
You can do whole maps with them by being a literal detriment
jolly imp
There's a mod that adds aimbot to bots, basically
WTF lol
little ridge
There's a video of Chill Dude proving that on R2E1
They destroy the surge alarm without breaking much sweat
Perhaps a counterpoint would be that it'd hard to get a human to actually do some shit that I've seen them do but even 20% less than that would be more than enough
I was amazed at how maps look A LOT easier when you've teammates that actually deal damage
I used to run a lot of R1 maps with newbies and always wondered why some groups made the experience feel A LOT smoother
then I installed the damage indicator counter thingy and I now understand why
There's people that do shit
civic lance
mfw 50% dmg done by one person at the end of a level
little ridge
It's absurd
From what I've noticed it ain't even a case of missing, it's just that some people seem not to like to shoot things
small adder
Is shadow giant a female?
rose nova
Is shadow giant a female?
no it is still the model of a male
lost lynx
Is shadow giant a female?
everything is a female if you want
rose nova
they just move like a big shooter
civic lance
new players tend to line up headshots for 5 seconds instead of shooting so what happens is in that 5 seconds wave gets way closer than it should have
little ridge
Is shadow giant a female?
The animation is like big shooter and they've a sleeping crouched position sometimes
rose nova
From what I've noticed it ain't even a case of missing, it's just that some peop...
you can also tell by sometimes pressing tab, and seeing who's 80 80 on ammo after a IV alarm
even if u don't mine the doors nor nothing
jolly imp
So... how do guys think about what DoW would be like
"Techno Thriller" sound interest AF
uneven badger
then I installed the damage indicator counter thingy and I now understand why
Is it on r2modman
rose nova
like gtfo but less gritty, more futuristic and less horror focused
more actiony, much more techno-stylish and fragrant like an 80s nostalgia poster
more cosmetics [probs some dlcs of them which is fine, like how drg does it], and probs with more lore from the very beginning
i imagine it with neon bright colors at night and very bright white mixed with saturated bright colors at day
jolly imp
I could imagine having a heist with mission to Hijack into Schrizophenic Patient's brain to gather infos, shit would be really mind bending like That one Black Mirror's VR game episode.
balmy moat
It's absurd
There’s a reason why I don’t even run it anymore
Because it’s sad af
I’m over here doing 50-70% of damage with 40k damage dealt
lost lynx
guys whats the mod that adds aimbot to bots
balmy moat
I don’t have the heart to look at the stats anymore
jolly imp
like gtfo but less gritty, more futuristic and less horror focused
more actiony,...
Simon Viklund my beloved
rose nova
I don’t have the heart to look at the stats anymore
just never shoot anymore
jolly imp
I could imagine having a heist with mission to Hijack into Schrizophenic Patient...
that level might be some Papurika shit
bruh
it's dead?
rose nova
me yes
burnt flume
I've run damage indicator in low tier pub lobbies and come away with 50-67% of total damage dealt but at the same time you can sorta just play to farm damage by taking sentry and holding alarms
I have also seen in an r4e1 someone having 7% of the team's total damage by the end of cells section
rose nova
lol
pine root
I have also seen in an r4e1 someone having 7% of the team's total damage by the ...
That isn’t unusual tho
burnt flume
it is for a full-ish pub lobby
pine root
Tank damage inflates numbers quite a bit so if they were wave clear and cell carrying they won’t do a lot of damage
burnt flume
i have no idea what michael whiteside was doing
but apparently he plays in vr and he is an entire character in of himself so whatever
not worth expending cognitive power to think about it
topaz lichen
having tried the vr
it is incredibly hard to hit anything
so give the guy some slack
burnt flume
I don't doubt it
topaz lichen
I legit become a potatoe when playing gtfo vr
i crutch on hel shotgun
and even then I can barely fight 3 strikers without losing all my hp
so 7% in r4e1 with vr is honestly good (especially since u managed to clear the darn thing)
topaz lichen
gtfo vr will legit turn even the most seasoned players into straight noobs - they will play worse than legit free weekend players
tho ig u have the benefit of being able to shoot behind u while running forwards lmfao (depending on ur vr setup - if u dont hv tracking stations, u may lose tracking of hands behind headset so then gg ig)
lusty river
so 7% in r4e1 with vr is honestly good (especially since u managed to clear the ...
Impressive!
burnt flume
a burst sentry at 67% can deal ~550 damage or whatever to strikers, killed 27 strikers and damaged the next one
poor michael did not have much more than 550 damage at the end of cells section
topaz lichen
if only he had the ease of a keyboard and mouse 😔 ✊
too bad hes stuck with shitty headset resolution, motion controls, no reload cancel, terrible interface for switching guns and cables all over his body 😭
burnt flume
michael is not innocent, he knew what he was doing
the michael whiteside experience is not having to carry the lobby, but having to listen to his musings
topaz lichen
i think michael is a masochist
burnt flume
i think michael is a very strange man in need of assistance
lusty river
I’m sorry I don’t know this Michael
topaz lichen
I’m sorry I don’t know this Michael
he's a man that has ascended beyond our comprehension
burnt flume
playing with michaelwhiteside is a rite of passage
you do not understand michaelwhiteside until you are in the same lobby as him
topaz lichen
that guys is a legend - respect for sitting through r4e1 in vr 🦾
topaz lichen
have you seen a guy on a steam deck try to complete an uplink
lusty river
Name
mystic moss
idk he didn't seem too important to me
lusty river
I see
burnt flume
come the end of the lobby michael had 5k damage 🙏
lusty river
Is that good or bad
burnt flume
wait no his sentry had 5k damage
topaz lichen
Is that good or bad
anything is good when ur in vr
burnt flume
burst cannon had 11k, hel gun had 9.1k, other pub had 7k, so not the most damage but he held up well in reactor
wait there was no burst cannon
hel rifle had 11k
lusty river
I see
burnt flume
i know at some part michael said something kinda peturbing and philosophical in the shadow section but i do not have the heart to rewatch that part of the vod
topaz lichen
if u had replay mod on host u can see what the damage actually went into - (was it tank ? striker ? etc...) since that would paint a better picture
burnt flume
it was ~6 weeks ago or something
topaz lichen
unlucky !
lusty river
So where is Michael now
lusty river
😔
burnt flume
he was doing some r8b4s a week or two after that r4e1 iirc
maybe michael is goku's father
they have similar vibes
jagged citrus
maybe michael is goku's father
hey vsauce, goku here
burnt flume
goku is wild, only got to play one lobby with him but the recording didn't have audio :(
man would have a striker scream next to him, get licked, take 2 seconds to turn around, get downed by the 2nd lick from the same striker then say "hehe he licked my butt"
Very disturbing stuff
junior latch
I've run damage indicator in low tier pub lobbies and come away with 50-67% of t...
Goat when they realize that i have 50 dmg cuz i didnt feel like shooting 
mellow hedge
Heheheha
burnt flume
Goat when they realize that i have 50 dmg cuz i didnt feel like shooting <:KEKLE...
Too bad, you already got 300 damage from hammering 9 enemies
Besides, sometimes I don't feel like shooting either and have plenty of damage
jolly imp
they were choke mod carbine
What? isn't the Carbine's Hipfire "Choked" enough lol
daring ginkgo
If you REALLY need your time, there is a Side Mission to get a cell to get a fog...
shit, you know what? screw this turbine, i was actually doing level on perfectly fine pace, but i died on this lvl 3 surge alarm, cause enemies spawned so close to me and scan zones were so close to enemies too xd
i think i will just embrace fog omw to overload cargo, if i manage to beat other main zones
rose nova
there's a turbine in r4d2?
daring ginkgo
yeah
in optional zone behind lvl 3 surge alarm and you need cell in other optional zone
analog flicker
Fun lil level
daring ginkgo
final enemy is a bit underwhelming
worthy furnace
final enemy is a bit underwhelming
we died to it 💀
daring ginkgo
wat how
worthy furnace
uhm we were a bit stupid..
worthy furnace
we should've rushed it more but we kept falling back and it kept spawning babies
yeah i had a hel revolver and hel gun i was getting cooked by the babies
worthy furnace
interesting
jagged citrus
hel shotty solos births
worthy furnace
i love the whole alarm section though it's super chaotic
worthy furnace
hooray
wraith marsh
hel shotty clears babies AND you dont have to take a shit weapon
worthy furnace
don't know if we're doing r4 next or going back to r2e1..
daring ginkgo
r4 levels is long af, if you gonna do prisoner efficiency
jagged citrus
its pretty ok up until c3
worthy furnace
r3 is so easy compared to the back half of r2 it's crazy
jagged citrus
ive been told that, undersandably, og r2 was nuts when they dropped it, so they dialed it back a bit with r3
daring ginkgo
well, since r2c2 it is no joke now too
jagged citrus
r2c2 is fine wym
daring ginkgo
wat, that was my major roadblock
worthy furnace
r2d1/r2d2/r2e1 are harder than all r3 levels
jagged citrus
wat, that was my major roadblock
with your team of full bots or with players
daring ginkgo
fog, first error alarm, bots team
jagged citrus
r2d1/r2d2/r2e1 are harder than all r3 levels
idk man, r3c1 final charger error sucks major balls
daring ginkgo
tried with real people, it was even worse xd
jagged citrus
the first time my party and i tried r2c2 it took us a full fuckin week
of attempts every day
to get the clear
daring ginkgo
yeah
jagged citrus
nowadays its pretty chill
wraith marsh
r2d1+ are all relatively hard levels (you can argue against r2d1 but)
worthy furnace
idk man, r3c1 final charger error sucks major balls
theres a final error !??! i have not got past the final boss
jagged citrus
meta knowledge goes nuts
jagged citrus
theres a final error !??! i have not got past the final boss
the zone with the hsu in it has an error on the door
daring ginkgo
theres a final error !??! i have not got past the final boss
c1, not d1
worthy furnace
oh c1
r3c1 was the hardest so far but definitely a ton easier than r2d1 and r2d2 and also easier than r2c2
jagged citrus
it was fuckin piss up until the last alarm
daring ginkgo
r3c1 is chill, until finalpart
jagged citrus
cannot tell you how many times we wiped on that error
my cfoam bugging certainly didnt help >:(
daring ginkgo
cannot tell you how many times we wiped on that error
same, i died like 5-10 times
only on this part
worthy furnace
why do the side rooms in r3c1 have like 15 sleepers it's insane
daring ginkgo
until i was blessed by rng with hsu spawn
jagged citrus
same, i died like 5-10 times
i watched a guy solo the level, and his strat was to go into one of the side zones with like 200 sleepers and wake them up intentionally so they took up the spawn cap and didnt let chargers spawn 💀
worthy furnace
yeah we beat r3c1 on second attempt we died to the error first time but then we did it
daring ginkgo
i watched a guy solo the level, and his strat was to go into one of the side zon...
i watched t-nenpi solo r4d2, when he aggroed all giants on last parts to prevent spawning enemies from reactor waves 💀
jagged citrus
do u mean r4d1
daring ginkgo
yeah, d1
worthy furnace
when we tried to do it with a friend the error horde came from in front and activated the scout in the final zone and we lost 😭
jagged citrus
i love walking simulator
worthy furnace
i wish i didn't get frame drops
jolly imp
i wish i didn't get frame drops
vsync + fast sync + LowSpec Mod
jolly imp
vsync + fast sync + LowSpec Mod
my fps get boosted from 60 to 120+ no cap
worthy furnace
well i get a solid 90 and it occasionally just drops to 25 ish for like 10 seconds before going back up to 90
analog flicker
Yall got frames?
shut vapor
well i get a solid 90 and it occasionally just drops to 25 ish for like 10 secon...
not enough memory?
worthy furnace
not enough memory?
no idea
upper loom
<@646458705952374811> what are the levels with the FX processor issue?
R2B4, R4A2, R4C3,R5D1, R6D3
hoary crescent
<@646458705952374811> what are the levels with the FX processor issue?
Comprehensive list is: R2B4 R4A2 R4C3 R5D1 R8E2 R6D3 aswell
pine cliff
my group's r2d1 bugged out
host got kicked out of the game and now we're stuck
welp 2 hours down the hole on a really good run
mystic moss
yeah that's unfortunate
the game just sometimes murders the lobby for no discernable reason
burnt flume
spitter bug into host migration not working i guess
pine cliff
yeah we're pissed cause it was the last cell + we got the card for disinfect zone
we started security scan, got bugged at 5% and down the drain the mission goes
burnt flume
did host have funny audio and open the map?
pine cliff
nope he said that he got booted off the game
even though he was host
like back to Rundown list
alpine scaffold
did host have funny audio and open the map?
Funny audio and open the map?
Now I'm curious
pine cliff
we were ready for extract
burnt flume
oh maybe an internet issue then, rarely happens but always sucks
little ridge
like back to Rundown list
Steam connection error
upper loom
Guys don't melee pmoms.
alpine scaffold
Yes I do
pine cliff
rip
i was proud of the guys too cause they recently started playing and we were dealing R2C2 and R2D1 really well for first timers
alpine scaffold
||The first thing my duo did when he realized that birthers "don't have" melee attacks was to grab the knife and run after it||
little ridge
Now I'm curious
Basically, the game fucks up the audio layer sometimes or something along those lines. Main culprits are in all probability spitters. What happens is that audio start getting fucked up (some audio simply does not play). At a certain point, ALL audio disappears. At that point, pressing TAB crashes the game (and perhaps it just crashes on its own even without pressing TAB after some time).
Supposedly the "glue fix" mod from hirnuokuono fixes it. Personally I've finally done a R2D1 without spitteraudiobug with it, so it seems to work.
alpine scaffold
Basically, the game fucks up the audio layer sometimes or something along those ...
GTFO has more issues than I imagined...
little ridge
GTFO has more issues than I imagined...
It's perhaps a combination of Spitters AND Generators/cells in the map but I think someone reported it on R2B4 and that doesn't have generators, only spitters.
balmy moat
||The first thing my duo did when he realized that birthers "don't have" melee a...
Demon has a melee attack
alpine scaffold
Who
balmy moat
Demon
burnt flume
i think i know what void is talking about now
balmy moat
Credit goes to Jish
burnt flume
normally i like demons and stuff, but not in gtfo
alpine scaffold
GTFO has more issues than I imagined...
What I hate the most is C-foam going through the door and my game just crashing when I'm snatched
burnt flume
cfoam going through doors is the same as shooter bug
alpine scaffold
Yeah I installed the mod that fix the issue
alpine scaffold
But idk about the snatcher thing
little ridge
Welcome to memory leak
Population=insert a memory usage joke
what's the biggest recordable number in 64 bit?
18446744073709551615 (not a lobby code)
balmy moat
magic escarp
little ridge
🤣
alpine scaffold
And now it's officially a feature and not a bug
Why?
balmy moat
Couldn't be spoken more in truth when a dev themselves confirmed it
So they're not bugs people
They are features
pine cliff
one of the features that make the game hard
balmy moat
*easier
pine cliff
IRL gtfoing
alpine scaffold
Yesterday I had checkpoint bug and the last datacube zone had no fog
R6c1
Eu simplesmente vi uma boca enorme flutuando no meio do nada
Why did I just say that phrase in Portuguese?
Wtf
alpine scaffold
Eu simplesmente vi uma boca enorme flutuando no meio do nada
I just saw a huge mouth floating in the middle of nowhere*
mellow hedge
Yesterday I had checkpoint bug and the last datacube zone had no fog
There is no fog in that level
rose nova
There is no fog in that level
wdym there very much is on there
or is it not fog and just something else
like lightning
rose nova
Eu simplesmente vi uma boca enorme flutuando no meio do nada
i like so much i understood that kdmskdmsl
mellow hedge
There is no fog on that level apart from kraken teleport
lofty grotto
Anyone up for a Soundless run?
rose nova
There is no fog on that level apart from kraken teleport
that's what they are saying-
lusty river
Misinfo in chat 😍
rose nova
omg i gotten misinfoed by gtfo vet
i'll krill myse-