gtfo-chat

[latent palm]

You get gems

From killing elder dragons

Like guarantee gems

[shut vapor]

i dont see how this is relevant

[latent palm]

Such as “scent” thag literally helps you pick up one track and boom ur done

[shut vapor]

[latent palm]

[burnt flume]

Last I checked they had 1h20m for each mission still, but between the breaks and wipes and average player skill I've no clue what'll happen

[latent palm]

Its been a long while since you boot up MHW huh

[burnt flume]

please stop harassing random people

[latent palm]

Dude clearly has issues

Not that i disagree

[pine root]

There is some scary levels

and their average is not amazing right now

[earnest forge]

To be fair, the 6h segment on R6B2 today is taking a slight toll. I hope they can make it now.

[pine root]

Yes

6 hours on r6b2 is kinda brutal

[earnest forge]

Otherwise we will do it later today and be done with it

[latent palm]

Isnt R6B2 secondary just plain easy?

Like i understand the fog but

[pine root]

Just main

But for new players r6b2 is kinda hard

[latent palm]

Just main??

[earnest forge]

main alarms are quite punishing to people not used to play the game

[latent palm]

Oh right right

Yea i keep forgetting

[pine root]

Fog alarms brutal

[earnest forge]

same reason R5B3 is still on the list

[latent palm]

Did they do any E tiers yet?

[earnest forge]

Fog + Darkness + packed rooms = recipe for disaster in lesser experienced lobbies

[burnt flume]

Tbh that's probably more the resource tightness and players making mistakes

People running r5b3 aren't bad players

[latent palm]

Only time i was on stream was 6mins on introduction and had to leave

[jagged citrus]

which one is r6b2

is that the one where you have to do like 9 terminals

[latent palm]

Hsu main uplink 2 blood doors

In fog

Theres a heafty amount of foggies

[jagged citrus]

oh b2 not d2 nvm i cant read\

sounds like tons of fun

[latent palm]

Bio comes in huge advantage on class IV main

Cause if you do sec you have 3 way spawn

[earnest forge]

Finally.

Viktor was probably sweating quite profusely at the end here

[latent palm]

See i can get on topic if needed

Wait vik was bio?

[earnest forge]

You are right ; I have also realized that R5B3 Main is arguably harder in Alt than it was in OG

Worse terminal placement in the side zones, and those are quite packed

[latent palm]

I mean

It is a load of chargers in that error

Wait no

Only the last main door to extract right?

[earnest forge]

Only 6 per wave I believe

[latent palm]

Still

[earnest forge]

but the zones in full fog and darkness are quite packed and have a scout somewhere

[latent palm]

Without hel rifle its just a lot harder to deal with

[earnest forge]

it is punishing very quicly

[latent palm]

I mean judging by this you could just pull a fee scouts

And throw one person in

[latent palm]

So did they wipe or they just didnt do the level yet?

[earnest forge]

Beat it after about 6 hours and a half of tries today

which is a relief

[latent palm]

Im curious how they handle that part and the second?

Did they do secondary too?

[earnest forge]

nope

[latent palm]

Strange

Optional objectives are quite forgiving for most levels

Except B1-2

That shit sucks

[pine root]

This hurts

[earnest forge]

I am very glad it is over though

[pine root]

It is one of the hard ones

[latent palm]

Atleast they had fun on B4 right?

Right…?

[pine root]

R7c3 r2d2 are levels that exists as well

R5d2

[burnt flume]

R2d2 should be like, an hour w/o wipes for some experienced bug hunters/whatnot

R5d2 bit more complicated but should be similar

[pine root]

Yes they are just wipe prone levels

[burnt flume]

mhm

combined rockiness/time lost to previous wipes is making this tense

[pine root]

Breads segments are going really well ngl

[earnest forge]

He did very well indeed, and had a couple good bhs with him as well

[pine root]

Yeah Matt and jyinger right

Or was it nick

[earnest forge]

matt / jynn / twister / nick

I believe

[pine root]

yeah solid line up

[earnest forge]

we have pollo joining up tonight at some point, solid as well

[pine root]

Do they get more time chO

Bread

[earnest forge]

I think so, yes

cannot remember when

[pine root]

I think he will try for r7e1

[earnest forge]

he probably knows better than I do :)

[pine root]

yeah probs he is sleepy rn

[earnest forge]

Scaler is coming on in later segments I believe ; I think he can hold his own (never played with him yet though, maybe once ?)

[jagged citrus]

r4e1

[latent palm]

Wdym?

Its just a code hunt

And you just send an additional player in when its the 5th code

But still

[pine root]

He can but most of the time it isn’t just about playing well you have newer devs playing that don’t get to much insane value

seems like you kinda need to carry a bit

either knowledge carry or mechanics carry

[earnest forge]

Knowledge carry helps support them ; I definitely saw that early morning today

Give devs a task to tackle and they will perform pretty well :)

[pine root]

Yeah a lot of them have decent fps skills

If you give them meta knowledge about zones they will perform quite well

you can also just perma get rid of high threats and they will do well

[earnest forge]

Most of the time I have seen them fail on stream was due to lack of purpose / getting lost on what to do or where to hold position

[pine root]

yup

that or challenge runs but devs I have been very happy about

The r6bx secondary clear

Hype as fuck

Weeb did a good job on that one

[burnt flume]

this is the new player gtfo struggle

the game is hard because of a lack of direction/lack of knowledge

scaler is pretty good, he'll get a few clears

[tough ferry]

rundown suggestions for killing tank solo without taking damage for achievement? (in which expedition can tank be found at the earliest)

[pine root]

R4e1

or r8d1

R8d1 is probs better tbh

[burnt flume]

yea r8d1 is probably the best

[pine root]

R4e1 has pretty scary rooms and not a good place to kill tank

and a time limit

[burnt flume]

r4e1 is funny though, so is r8d2

but nobody in their right mind would do it on r8d2 I don't think

[pine root]

So you could do it on r8d2 but you would need to do some scream xd manipulation

[tough ferry]

thanks

[pine root]

scream cd pull tank walk two rooms away

Then you kinda get fucked cause the rooms suck ass

[analog flicker]

Achually Eva is better. They put scaler in the trash on his guide thumbnail 🤓

Though scaler seems to have been doing well

I haven't been watching as of late

[pine root]

Scaler is a good player

he can get some of the bad levels done

[analog flicker]

True. They knifed a pmom

[pine root]

That isn’t exactly what makes a good player but

we agree

[burnt flume]

scaler and kris have done a good chunk of the game, it'll be alright

[jagged citrus]

r8b1 secondary isnt bad for this either

[alpine scaffold]

R4C3 overload you can kill it using 8 tripmines

[burnt flume]

r4c3 takes a while to get to though

[tough ferry]

hmm it might be the only one I have access to at the moment as I haven't passed r4d2 or started 8 yet.

[jagged citrus]

r8b1 isnt that hard to unlock if you wanna, r8a1 is quick and easy

and so is b1 tbh

but r4c3 works if you have enough mines

[burnt flume]

r8a1 is a solid 10 minute mission if you're playing alone with no bots

[jagged citrus]

nice pfp goat

so much detail

[burnt flume]

thanks it's some random shit i made myself

[earnest forge]

The achievement is not about killing a Tank solo, just killing it without anyone in the team taking damage, I believe

[jagged citrus]

yeah ik

r8b1 is where i got it

[burnt flume]

same

[earnest forge]

same

[jagged citrus]

tanks asleep, had 4 people behind it

pretty sure we had a cfoam mine too

super easy

[burnt flume]

I was off in narnia while eva and someone else I can't remember killed tank

[earnest forge]

any sleeping tank makes this achievement quite trivial

[jagged citrus]

except possibly r4c1

[burnt flume]

meanwhile in r4e1 speedruns, my brother gets the achievement

[pine root]

XD

[alpine scaffold]

I did it in r4d2 pe while fogdiving lmao

[jagged citrus]

yeah that would work

[tough ferry]

there are 2 tanks in that room and it's a respawn room, how did you manage it?

[jagged citrus]

what cho said. long as its asleep its piss

[jagged citrus]

in r4d2?

[tough ferry]

yes, or am i mistaken

[burnt flume]

you are thinking of an entirely different mission

respawn rooms are not in r1-4

only r5-8

[tough ferry]

ok

[worldly pasture]

hey brand new to the game watched a lot on it and understand the base mechanics and such but would appreciate a little assistant if anyone would be willing to help?

[tough ferry]

I just remember killing all the giants and small enemies, coming back for the tanks later and the giants had respawned

[pine root]

Sure

[pine root]

https://discord.gg/UKM4nVfB

[tough ferry]

Did I do right by placing the betterbots.dll file in the Plugins/x86_84 folder with the other dll files of gtfo game?

[daring ginkgo]

I FUCKING DID IT GUYS

R2E1 WITH BOTS LETS GOO

NO BOOSTERS

[tough ferry]

did you do r2d2 with bots also?

[daring ginkgo]

no, with real people

r2d2 was too tough for me, cause managment resources is hard

i was THIS close to use ladderfoam after today tries

[burnt flume]

legend

sorry to say that the next E tier isn't going to let you clear it with bots, but what you have done already is impressive

[daring ginkgo]

my proudest flex so far

now i can finally continue to clear r4

[small adder]

good job!

[burnt flume]

have fun with the optional objectives

they get pretty funny

[daring ginkgo]

time for r4c1 finally

[small adder]

R4C3 PE is second hardest level of R4, good luck there

[stable copper]

damn, should've record your runs with bots

[lusty river]

I’d like to disagree

[daring ginkgo]

i need goddamn break after this

[small adder]

Could be nice if some top players make a team work and rate at all rundowns. And give us their thought on top 10 hardest levels

May during dev stream?

[rose nova]

i think its been made ngl

i just dont know where to find it

but i think someone mentioned it a bit ago

[small adder]

Google doesn't help

[lusty river]

It’s already been made

[small adder]

link?

[jagged citrus]

pretty sure ur thinking of r6d3

[burnt flume]

it'll probably be eva's sleeper podcast

[daring ginkgo]

r2e1 such a great lvl

[jagged citrus]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LETS GO

you are one stubborn mf

[daring ginkgo]

that build up on error alarm is so cool

thanks, almost used cheese foam strat, but i switched choke mode shotgun to my favorite Veruta and suddenly thing went easier

[jagged citrus]

veruta machinegun my beloved ❤️

have fun in r4c1 ;)

[daring ginkgo]

i hate arbalist cause scope

it is big and red, cant see shit when shooting

[jagged citrus]

arbalist is fine but the low rpm fucks w me

[jagged citrus]

...the arbalist machinegun has blue sights

unless they've changed it since last i used ti

[thick temple]

no arbalist's sight is definitely blue

[jagged citrus]

ok cool im not insane

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, sry

[jagged citrus]

silly

[daring ginkgo]

i like arbalist, hate veruta*

[jagged citrus]

booooooooooooo 🍅🍅🍅

veruta on top

[daring ginkgo]

i like slower rate of fire with arbalist, feels more powerful

and more dmg per bullet

[jagged citrus]

it is more powerful

but i find the veruta more useful

its a lot better at waveclear which is the reason i bring a machinegun

[daring ginkgo]

i used veruta on all bots xd

[jagged citrus]

you should give all three sniper rifles

for the funny

[daring ginkgo]

btw i spend almost fcking 2 minutes looking for last cell

and it was on room with sec door

because i was in this room like total 4 times before with cell already

[jagged citrus]

did u not ping it?

[daring ginkgo]

i mean i pinged it, but i just could not find place with cell

and it was on further corner of this zone

[jagged citrus]

you love to see it

i love when the level gets 3x harder because of shit spawn

[burnt flume]

what I like to do is sit on terminal, aim at the ping, and then open map to get a rough idea of where it is

[daring ginkgo]

i was too busy defending my ass vs hordes

i barely had time to ping cell

and i was on 15% hp all this time

bots tanked sleepers like a champs, i found plenty of medkits

on first cluster scans 2 out of 3 turrets were out of ammo, i was sure that i am fucked

there was a fun moment on start of zone 602, i carried cell until door to big room with sec door, got back to neonate at error door and faced 2 giants, i legit never saw giants in first room of zone 602

now i can finally close pic with r2e1 map on browser 😂 ( not that i needed this after like 3-4 attempts )

[daring ginkgo]

haha, i actually saw only 2 videos on yt with alt r2e1 clear with bots, but one of those was with mod, allowing bots to carry things

[robust dawn]

wdym

u dont need a mod for that

[wraith marsh]

next pub review subject spotted

[pine root]

both

[little ridge]

during error alarms, you do

[pine root]

of the play throughs are mods

[daring ginkgo]

on error alarm*

[little ridge]

IF an enemy is awaken, bots drop the carrying item

[daring ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4W6W9kzfCc

this is not

[pine root]

it isnt

badger

[daring ginkgo]

this is second video, this has mod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEvltA56BA&t=7707s

[pine root]

thank god

[daring ginkgo]

and thats all, i dont see any other alt r2e1 clears

[pine root]

you didn like chill vid

[wraith marsh]

yea I used mods for the speedrun

[daring ginkgo]

ah, this video with cracked better bots, xd

[pine root]

he doesnt shoot

[little ridge]

xD and perhaps broken better bots

Even that video has host doing less damage than all bots

[daring ginkgo]

i closed video instantly, when i saw, that guy used mod

at first i saw lenght of the video, 2.5 hours i was like damn, maybe he has some interesting strats

i skipped directly to error alarm part to see his route aaaand bots picked all stuff on alarm

rip my expectations

[little ridge]

It ain't much about the pickup part

those bots laser strikers in a way only aimbot better bots do

[daring ginkgo]

btw is there any mod or version of better bots JUST for carrying things?

[burnt flume]

badger is the epicest of all gtfo animal players

most lore

[daring ginkgo]

his video inspired me to do this run

i actually gave up after first few tries, than looked at that video and was like, damn, insane clear, i want to do this too

[jagged citrus]

was it worth it?

[daring ginkgo]

Totally

My hands were shaking like crazy, when i w8ted on extraction scan

Very exciting clear

[quasi pine]

have there been any updates on den of wolves lately

[sharp owl]

It's so funny that Viq blamed me for losing a run

[jagged citrus]

howd you handle extraction? did you have cfoam/mines?

[sharp owl]

Dreadnaught from drg

[daring ginkgo]

I had 3 turrets, 2 out of 3 ran out of ammo, third stayed in room with sec door faced to only opened door, extraction scan was easy, no additional enemies it felt, we just shoot them from afar with machineguns

[jagged citrus]

ROCK AND STONE

[daring ginkgo]

No extra bullshit spawns like r3c1

[jagged citrus]

the last surge killed my runs so many times

[sharp owl]

ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE

[daring ginkgo]

FOR KARL!

[robust dawn]

erm

[pine root]

You are a gamer

That is tricky

very proud of you

[analog flicker]

Me annoying friends calling the charger in HD2 a Praetorian

[pine root]

Did you record it dark

by chance

[daring ginkgo]

No

[pine root]

Unfo

[daring ginkgo]

Just took a screenshot at the end with results

[junior latch]

Been done between rayalot, blackdragon and me

Its definetly not perfect since theres a lot of stuff to consider. But we ranked all missions according to difficulty for experienced players who know what the level does.

I didnt bother uploading it as a video for the sleeper podcast as the discussions were not that interesting.

But the ranking itself is on my discord @rose nova its pinned in media)

[upper idol]

have the speedrunners beaten r2e1 on stream yet?

[random lava]

not yet

[upper idol]

oh what's the order then? bc I saw they've gotten to r4e1 but some levels are in white

[random lava]

they are saving some levels for later

like R8,

[upper idol]

ah ok

ty

[jade iron]

I still don't understand having r5d1 over r2e1

also a bunch of other stuff on there

but I don't know, I'm probably too duo-pilled

[lost lynx]

huh

i thought R4E1 was harder than R5E1

or at least thats what it feels like

[jade iron]

that's the usual view

[lost lynx]

yeah i just suck at the game

:)

[jade iron]

don't remember what happened when they discussed that level on the podcast

[lost lynx]

honestly R8E2/R5E1/R4E1 are almost on the same level of diff anyways

[jade iron]

but there's a rogue view that r5e1 harder than r4e1 that comes up sometimes

hm if they added a tier above into which to put r8e2 I'd not bat an eyelid

[lost lynx]

R8E2 deserves its own tier on the list

[pine root]

I think r2e1 has a pretty easily solution in hel shotty

[lost lynx]

true

but using hel shotty all the time is booooring

[pine root]

You are t going fast enough

you hit a pace where hel shotty becomes fun again

[analog flicker]

Helshotgun/combatshotgun.

The loadout where I can live through the Terry Crews full auto AA12 fantasy

[sharp owl]

maybe dumb question but ive heard tale of so much skill issue on r1c1 i have to ask, do ppl think r1c1 or r3a3 is harder

[wicked solstice]

R1C1 is the first reactor, so probably why they get stuck there

[sharp owl]

ig

funny how you would think the a tier is harder than the c tier

but r1 isnt real so

[wicked solstice]

i mean, I feel like A3 is harder

[sharp owl]

i feel like code searching over sitting still by default makes it harder

but ive legit never heard anyone complaining about a3

[analog flicker]

Comparing the tutorial rundown to R3 is wild

[jade iron]

r1c1 is impossible

[sharp owl]

fake

i did it 2 days ago with 3 noobs

[jade iron]

numerous reddit threads testify to this hard fact

[rose nova]

people r just much newer in r1c1
by r3a3 u mightve even tried r2d2 before

[sharp owl]

ah yes reddit, the most reliable source of information

[jade iron]

seriously though I could see r3a3 being considered harder I guess

[sharp owl]

probably

[shut vapor]

I love Reddit

[sharp owl]

what kills more braincells, reddit or twitter

[vernal nebula]

Why not kill them all and use both

[shut vapor]

A tough choice

Discord i think

[vernal nebula]

instant gratification is a deadly drug

[jade iron]

yeah I could see r3a3 being a hardstuck noob level if it were in an earlier rundown

[vernal nebula]

I miss forums

[jade iron]

last wave is kinda stacked

[lone estuary]

Google

[pine root]

It is a hardstuck level

If you play all a tiers

The all b tiers

[blissful dome]

hmmm

[jade iron]

yeah but who does that

it's always "we're playing all the rundowns in order"

[blissful dome]

when r2d-e tiers

[jade iron]

very true

[pine root]

R1c1 hits at some point players go to r2a1

[jade iron]

but the people insisting on this just end up hardstuck on r1c1 so it doesn't seem to come up

[unreal crystal]

the illusion of choice

either way new players get hardstuck on a reactor level

[pallid anvil]

True , me remember the 1st time doing R1C1

Died before getting to extract :3

[lone estuary]

Hurts

[silver spade]

Shooting in straight line is hard

[unreal crystal]

Yup

[quartz cape]

i remember my first time doing r1c1 i won cause im epic

[pine root]

I remember Ray taking damage while running in a straight line

[quartz cape]

I got carried by nacho

and now no one even remembers his name...

[pine root]

Who nacho

[quartz cape]

stop you're making me cry

[sharp owl]

so true

[quartz cape]

go back to playing loner zealot

[sharp owl]

i dont play loner zealot

[quartz cape]

spoken like a loner zealot

[sharp owl]

i use fotf and dclaw and frontline for my team

[unreal crystal]

Better call Saul character

[sharp owl]

but i havent played zealot in a bit

[quartz cape]

NO

put some respect on his name

[unreal crystal]

nacho varga

[quartz cape]

not him

he died

loser

[unreal crystal]

????

Spoilers wtf

[quartz cape]

u literally watch that show in your head on repeat

i dont want to hear it

[sharp owl]

i hope the update makes crafting good so i use my 380

[quartz cape]

i hope it adds more gambling so i can hit the slots

[sharp owl]

LMAO

[quartz cape]

missions are just the necessary tasks between casino time

[sharp owl]

[stable copper]

Blackjacks with sleepers?

[quartz cape]

no gtfo is dead this is a darktide discord now

[sharp owl]

[lone estuary]

low light tide

[quartz cape]

free daemonhost kills

[sharp owl]

parry solos daemonhost ez

[stable copper]

Anyone excited for the new warhammer coop coming soon?

[sharp owl]

probably not

unless its somehow more addictive than darktide

[quartz cape]

anyone excited for den of wolves?

[analog flicker]

Stone and rock

[sharp owl]

idk yet tbh dont know enough about it

[analog flicker]

Space marine 2 right?

[quartz cape]

it has masks and they're not gonna "mickey mouse" the music

[analog flicker]

Or is this something else I'm unaware of

[pine root]

Actually I kinda am

[quartz cape]

they got jish

[stable copper]

Ya

[quartz cape]

this is not a drill

someone call in beep

[pine root]

Yes I am just hopping they didn’t get better at making games

and it is still a broken pile that you can fall in love with

[quartz cape]

professional dow hater beep will change your mind real quick

[pine root]

I hope he does

[quartz cape]

someday they might even show some dow gameplay

[pine root]

I feel like

They show us some at the end of this stream surely

[quartz cape]

lol

you are optimistic

you're not seeing shit this year

[pine root]

surely

Yeah probs

It probs isn’t coming out for like 4 years

at the minimum

Maybe we get it in EA he’ll forever

[quartz cape]

my money is still on EA in november 2025

[pine root]

That sounds reasonable

[quartz cape]

get your bets in now im taking them for the rest of 2024

[pine root]

I will wait 24 hours

Before I make a bet

[pine root]

Do you think stuck jump will work

in den of wolves

[quartz cape]

yes

100%

[robust dawn]

What?

[mystic moss]

you heard them

[pallid anvil]

you tell em

[lapis zinc]

Sex

[final crater]

@lapis zinc am I seeing things?

[lapis zinc]

I think you see ghosts

[final crater]

lol

[lapis zinc]

👍

[final crater]

👍🏼

[small adder]

In which chat it is pinned?

[lapis zinc]

Why the white one? Racist

🐒

[daring ginkgo]

Yellow = Simpsons

[pine root]

You haven’t seen stuck jump

It is my favourite gtfo cheese

[slender turret]

duo looking for more players

[daring ginkgo]

What is this?

[pine root]

you get stuck in the air then no sleepers can act

STuck jump

[daring ginkgo]

Wtf

[fringe shell]

hey all, its been 2019 since i lasted played this game and it has gone through alot of changes, if im looking for other players to join my rundown, how do i share that instance? its done differently from what i remember

[stable copper]

when you are in a lobby, at the far right of your screen there is a big red button to copy lobby id, then share it to your friends, they can copy it, when they looking at ingame screen during picking rundown there will be a small red button to join your lobby if they copy the id right

[unreal crystal]

It’s something that should never have been discovered

truly an op cheese

[random lava]

[stable copper]

ive never seen stuck jump before

[daring ginkgo]

I assume you cant move in air but can shoot?

[hollow ocean]

We are interviewing the level designers for R6, R7, and R8. Does anyone have questions about the levels they want answered?

[untold cypress]

if I have questions I will put them down but I LOVED R6, R7 and R8, so huge well done to those level designers

[random lava]

how they balanced Pablo with the tiles

[untold cypress]

how many other teams are level designers communicating with to get a level completed?

and do level designers also take inspirations from other games for the levels in R6 - R8 (and during the general development of games they work on)

[light sigil]

tell frosty i said hi

[upbeat yacht]

is there a particular reason for the one scan in E2 that sends you to brazil? And did they know it could be used for nefarious purposes?

[hollow ocean]

This was answered partly to us, the idea was all 3 would send to different dimensions but they ran out of time

[upbeat yacht]

awww that would have been cool, thanks!

[untold cypress]

damn that sounds like it would have been sick

[upbeat yacht]

still super random, but cool

[upbeat yacht]

why do we prisoners keep dropping and escaping from elevators after the ending of R8C2? Was there not time to adjust the last 2 levels accordingly or maybe some other reasons?

[mellow hedge]

I LOVE YOU HANGE

[mellow hedge]

That’s a good one

[upbeat yacht]

i thirst for lore

[little ridge]

Why does R8E2 has a "non optional secondary"? If it is because of the reactor then how come R6D1 doesn't?

[pallid anvil]

Why nerf R8B4 extract from one of the funnest extracts in GTFO to a solo hold

[light sigil]

I LOVE YOU TOO FROSTY

[lapis zinc]

Sex

[latent palm]

R7E1-R6B1 crystal jump

[burnt flume]

Who made the foliage in r8a1 clas 3 scan and was it taken into account when balancing the difficulty (fighting in the jungles of Cambodia sucks for solo speedruns)

[burnt flume]

Iirc this one is that they didn't want it to be secondary but because of limitations of the game engine it had to be done as a non-pptional optional objective

[hollow ocean]

Yes

[hoary crescent]

omg it's mac the movement tech guy

[analog flicker]

People thinking it's optional when the objective says the door needs the reactor and the other thing to open

[analog flicker]

I assume by this title. They can just do omni directional black hops without macro

[jagged citrus]

noclip at will

[alpine scaffold]

Fuck surge alarm at the end of r5c2.

R5C2 is a very weird level

[vernal nebula]

Usually I save a C-foam grenade for that

Should be able to find at least 1-2 for them

[daring ginkgo]

hey, i did r2e1 with bots yesterday

[alpine scaffold]

Nice bro, congrats

Now suffer with r4c1 secondary

[alpine scaffold]

Yes, but it was our first try finishing main after the LOOONG overload + secondary

And then the random shadow zones

[jagged citrus]

r4c1 secondary aint bad if you can kite

oh yeah darksaid have you tried r4c1 yet?

[alpine scaffold]

And I dont even understand why is fog in this level
Like its not even a problem like in r4b3

[vernal nebula]

This game is a lot of trial and error so it helps to know strategy

[alpine scaffold]

Kiting 🤢

[jagged citrus]

boring but powerful

[alpine scaffold]

Yes

I'll probably never do

But ok for those who do

[jagged citrus]

i only try to do it when trying to save a run

but im very bad at it

[vernal nebula]

I don't mind someone doing it if 3 go down near the end but if you need to do it multiple times it's a pretty heavy crutch

[daring ginkgo]

no, gonna do it right now, just came back from work

[jagged citrus]

it is nice to have it in your back pocket to prevent wipes, but leaning on it as a primary strategy is cringe

[jagged citrus]

have fun!

keep us posted

[alpine scaffold]

Bring buckland or at least a Hel gun

🫡

[daring ginkgo]

👌

[jagged citrus]

one of the shotguns, high cal, hel gun

[alpine scaffold]

I dont know how high cal works

[jagged citrus]

really?

you should use it it's great

its basically a halfway between the s870 and the choke mod

i love it

[alpine scaffold]

S870?

[jagged citrus]

the pump action shotgun

[alpine scaffold]

Combat shotgun or the common buckland?

[jagged citrus]

the common buckland

its called the s870

[alpine scaffold]

Oh

[jagged citrus]

they need some sort of distinguisher from the other shotguns for it

anyway yeah high cal somewhere between that and the choke mod

6 shots in the clip, range about halfway between the two, same damage

[burnt flume]

the distinguishing feature is that it is simply called the shotgun

or pump shotgun

[jagged citrus]

:(

yeah thats what i call it

[burnt flume]

if someone else is talking about another shotgun they'll say so

hel/sawed off/choke/combat, etc etc

[alpine scaffold]

On first impression I thought it was a long-range weapon

[jagged citrus]

no it has like 5m less range than the choke mod

and damage falloff hits like a truck

[alpine scaffold]

Yeah

[jagged citrus]

but its still good

i just generally treat it like a shotgun

gets good value

[alpine scaffold]

PR my beloved

[jagged citrus]

lmao i hate precision rifle

probably because i can't aim for shit

[alpine scaffold]

I like PR because I'm forced to aim

😔

[jagged citrus]

ive tried but i just do so poorly i cant justify bringing it

[alpine scaffold]

Then my main weapon is Hel Shotgun

[jagged citrus]

lmao

who needs dps

[alpine scaffold]

I play this game in duo + bots sometimes

And my duo use Sniper everytime

So, nothing to worry about giants

[jagged citrus]

oh, sniper

how the mighty have fallen

[rose nova]

sniper :[

[jagged citrus]

i just want 3 shots in the clip again man :(

[alpine scaffold]

He doesnt know the Sniper nerf
So the weapon is good for him

[vernal nebula]

You one-hit kill strikers / shooters / chargers

[jagged citrus]

and [RUNDOWN 8 SPOILERS] if you hit em in the weakpoint

[jagged citrus]

i mean yk it still gets value

if you hit headshots it kills giants

thats good

[rose nova]

barely

[vernal nebula]

Yeah although there are definitely better guns imo, high cal is a bit slow and they're fairly fast

[jagged citrus]

its just so much worse than it used to be

[rose nova]

snipers just the weakest special rn probs

even below short rifle

[jagged citrus]

honestly? the biggest thing for me is the recoil

thats the biggest compensating factor

basically resets your crosshair after every shot

[jagged citrus]

imo its third

after short rifle and special revo

[alpine scaffold]

Special revo

Is it bad?

[jagged citrus]

but at least short rifle is funny

[jagged citrus]

eh

i dont like it

feel free to correct me

[vernal nebula]

The Mastaba R66 is great, it's just not as good as hel gun

[rose nova]

i think its great if u aim well and reload well, very much one of the fastest way to clear small enemies

[jagged citrus]

just barely does any damage, its main draw is clearing waves cuz it can one shot little guys, but there are other special guns that do it better

more ammo or more damage and demand less from the player

[rose nova]

its basically a pr but ironsight and 7 times as fast

[jagged citrus]

its not strictly bad, just severely outclassed

imo

[alpine scaffold]

If it one shot shooters from medium distance at least, I love it 😔

[burnt flume]

it's a fantastic short range small killing weapon

[jagged citrus]

if you hit em in the head

[rose nova]

i think short rifle is better than sniper cause at least its very much more flexible

[vernal nebula]

It does

shooter head is 5x damage lol

[burnt flume]

rewards precision, bad matchup into charger, gets a lot of ammo/refill

[jagged citrus]

short rifle is better cuz you can use a macro for the funny

[jagged citrus]

bad matchup against anything thats not smalls tbh

[burnt flume]

it's a fun gun but hel gun gets more value because of pen and higher damage

[jagged citrus]

and if you're looking for waveclear i prefer machineguns or the combat shotty

but if you can hit headshots it is fun

[burnt flume]

machine guns suck

[jagged citrus]

i miss the goofy reload animation

[jagged citrus]

i will not hear such slander

[burnt flume]

either combat shotty or hel gun or hel rifle or whatever

machine gun is low value

[jagged citrus]

veruta puts in work

usaully

[rose nova]

if u aim it well

[burnt flume]

96% of machine gun players are low value, and the high value ones can get more value out of other guns already

[rose nova]

thats on the player

not the gun

[alpine scaffold]

I do Hel Shotgun for waveclears and PR for support most of times

[vernal nebula]

Sometimes staggering is better than outright killing

[jagged citrus]

96% of machine gun players are low value
what are u implying bish

[burnt flume]

i'm not implying anything

[rose nova]

that SKILL ISSUE

[burnt flume]

i've said it before, machine gun players are low value

[rose nova]

THAAT UR BAD AT THE GAME SMH

[jagged citrus]

ohfdasuhasdoahsfdouhsadfhsadf;o ih

[rose nova]

STOP PLAYIN GTFO

:[

[jagged citrus]

NO

[rose nova]

SMH

[jagged citrus]

PLEASE I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED

[rose nova]

ok fine

[alpine scaffold]

Isn't today the drg update?

[burnt flume]

idk i don't keep up with drg

[jagged citrus]

do u guys think sleeper meat would taste good if u cooked it right

[vernal nebula]

You mean GTFO free weekend?

[alpine scaffold]

Deep rock galactic

[jagged citrus]

ROCK AND STONE

[pine root]

Mg players are low value

[rose nova]

-ock and stone!

[jagged citrus]

im being harassed and i dont appreciate it

[wicked solstice]

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE

[jagged citrus]

ROCK AND STONE OR YOU AINT COMING HOME

[alpine scaffold]

Scout feelers hmmmm 😋

[pine root]

Stone and Rock

[wicked solstice]

hey

[burnt flume]

you know it's true dak

[jagged citrus]

||there is scout r34||

[jagged citrus]

machinegun brother?

[burnt flume]

that's the entire point of the rule, if it exists then there's thingy of it

[wicked solstice]

yeah I use veruta

[jagged citrus]

my MAN

[wicked solstice]

what about it

[jagged citrus]

based asf is what

[jagged citrus]

wheres gtfo rule 63

[vernal nebula]

Shadow Scout

[jagged citrus]

lmao

so true

[burnt flume]

...

[jagged citrus]

hey it looks like a biter

striker

whatever

[alpine scaffold]

||Is it true shooters are female and strikers male?||

Idk about GTFO lore

[jagged citrus]

ehh its heavily implied

[burnt flume]

I'm fairly certain that is the lore

[vernal nebula]

So funny how they have a striker head but shoot projectiles at you regardless

[burnt flume]

no shadow enemy has a shooter model

it's all striker models

[jagged citrus]

i dont recall seeing it ever explicitly stated but its alluded to

[jagged citrus]

its weird that they made shadow scouts shoot projectiles despite having biter models but charger scouts just attack like normal chargers

[alpine scaffold]

How about the scout loreside?

[jagged citrus]

also female

if thats what ur asking

[elder bane]

i mean im at R2 but i can use a scatter gun and still insta kill them with my potato aim

[jagged citrus]

yeah but then you have to get into melee range and sniper lets you stay far away

both fall to the real ultimate giant killer, the peak of guns in the game, the burst cannon

[alpine scaffold]

The role of the scout in the "species"

[elder bane]

idk what is good in this game i usually run scatter gun with smg or something

[jagged citrus]

its unclear if there really is a "species" purpose

[burnt flume]

scattergun is broken

[jagged citrus]

i mean they dont really seem to have respiratory or digestive systems

[vernal nebula]

I don't really like using it for that reason lol

[jagged citrus]

it kind of seems like they're just mindless killing biological machines

scatter is pretty broken yeah lmao

especially against bigger enemies

[alpine scaffold]

I thought scout was some kind of sleeper guard or something

[vernal nebula]

soloing mom is so dumb, no need for teamwork

[jagged citrus]

can you two shot her as client?

[vernal nebula]

At least with PMom you need help

[jagged citrus]

how much of the lore do u know

[vernal nebula]

IIRC it's one shot and 2 if you miss

[jagged citrus]

one shot??

gah damn

[alpine scaffold]

Nothing I only do W + M1

[jagged citrus]

i didnt know it did that much

[jagged citrus]

do u know about the virus

[alpine scaffold]

No

[elder bane]

who or what is "mom" .-.

[vernal nebula]

Have fun!

[jagged citrus]

you'll find out.

[burnt flume]

don't worry about her

[elder bane]

i do worry

[burnt flume]

you'll meet her eventually

[jagged citrus]

the NAM-V virus is what created the sleepers

they're mutated humans

[elder bane]

cus idk what it is and it will beat me up

pretty big humans then

[jagged citrus]

i remember seeing a lore log that said that the virus consumed like 98% of all living matter in every single world/dimension it found itself on

[alpine scaffold]

Then they hit r4d1 secondary

[jagged citrus]

and you fight the 2% presumably

so its not engineered

its just a virus taking over a host

its not clear if they have dedicated roles or soemthing like dead space necromorphs

[burnt flume]

virus + parasite mutates stuff into sleepers, not nam-v alone

[jagged citrus]

or if they're just mindless killers

[burnt flume]

basic lore

[jagged citrus]

right

thank you

wait i thought nam-v was the name of the symbiotic relationship between the two

[alpine scaffold]

Giants are mutated humans?

[jagged citrus]

everything in the gmae is mutated humans

with a couple possible exceptions

that im not gonna spoil

[alpine scaffold]

I think I know

The R6 guys

[jagged citrus]

spoilers||meatballs||

[alpine scaffold]

Oh yeah the r6 guys

[jagged citrus]

were they introduced in r6?

[alpine scaffold]

I did the start command

[alpine scaffold]

Ops sorry

[jagged citrus]

yes they were

yeah the r6 guys

they're

not exactly humanoid

[alpine scaffold]

The only thing I know is that the mom was an experiment on a pregnant woman

I think?

[jagged citrus]

i havent heard that

but im not super up to date on the lore

@burnt flume help

[burnt flume]

idk lol

[jagged citrus]

useless /j

idk id believe it

theres some fucked up shit down there

[alpine scaffold]

I thought the ||tank|| was a reference to r3a1's log

[jagged citrus]

idk the r3a1 log

brb googling

[alpine scaffold]

I barely remember r3a1 log but I think this could be the yellow syringe

[jagged citrus]

yeah it is

how is that relelvant to that enemy tho?

[little ridge]

I clicked on that spoiler and now Cowboy Bebop OP started playing

[alpine scaffold]

Idk I just W + M1 :(

[jagged citrus]

hubris

[jagged citrus]

it was a thought

idk theres lore videos on youtube if you're curious

[burnt flume]

some lore videos for gtfo suck and don't actually go into the lore

[jagged citrus]

scalers videos are pretty good arent they?

[burnt flume]

ya because he plays the game

[jagged citrus]

yeah

that

[alpine scaffold]

I used to read the game logs, but now I only "get" them for achievement purpose

[wild thunder]

judging from the way you say that , some people put out lore videos without actually playing ?

[alpine scaffold]

Also, fuck logs in the middle of error alarms or infection fog, or both ||fuck r5b2||

[burnt flume]

yeah in the past and it was just speculation that disregarded game lore

[jagged citrus]

i mean, to a degree, i dont mind people putting their own spin on things and presenting their own interpretation of events

just making shit up is different tho

[lapis zinc]

Sounds like a skill issue

[alpine scaffold]

Yes it is

Stealth > loud

[lapis zinc]

Just stop complaining, try new strats and lock in

[alpine scaffold]

Also r4c2 is good

[lapis zinc]

I am hardstuck r8d1

[shut vapor]

:((((

Dont disrespect one of the best levels in the game

[burnt flume]

r5b2 bad

just like r5b1

and r5b3

and r5b4

why does rundown 5 suck

[alpine scaffold]

R2d2, R3D1

[shut vapor]

ok r5b4 I understand

but

R5b3 is fine

[alpine scaffold]

R5b3 is the room scan one?

[burnt flume]

i don't like fog diving, i don't like full charger alarms, and doing all that with scarce resources feels bad

sloggish mission to play through

[alpine scaffold]

Well I think you dont like r4d2 PE

I mean, its not entirely fog diving, but you can make this

[tough ferry]

It's been a long time since I was interested in any game's lore, especially an fps. Love this one

[alpine scaffold]

Rainbow six lore

[tough ferry]

My first rainbow 6 was rogue spear in 99 but I never cared for story

[alpine scaffold]

@daring ginkgo #gtfo-media message you can do 65% of this alarm with just C-foam and tripmine, IIRC the enemies will come only to the closed one door

By the way, you can leave a bot with the biotracker, it will be much more useful than in the hands of a player

Bots op with bio

[tough ferry]

Bots are also pro at spotting lockers and boxes

Especially in foggy areas

[daring ginkgo]

i am always using tracker on first try of the level by myself

[alpine scaffold]

I like carrying C-foam and my duo Tripmine, and bots sentry and bio

Unless r5b3 and r5d2, 1 C-foam, 2 tripmines and 1 bio

Idk if sentry is worth on r5d2

[jagged citrus]

we should just delete r5 from the vibeo game

[alpine scaffold]

Who needs sentry in the D-tier reactor

[jagged citrus]

quad c*m

server repressing me

[alpine scaffold]

You haven't done R5d2 yet, right?

[jagged citrus]

ive done barely any r5

[alpine scaffold]

I think its one of the coolest R5 levels(I haven't done r5e1)

[jagged citrus]

but ive hear dits the hardest rundown

[alpine scaffold]

I dont think its hard, but its LONG

Fuck 2h secondary + overload and 20 minutes main

Also @daring ginkgo you'll need C-foam for the secondary r4c1

Trust me

[daring ginkgo]

Too late

[alpine scaffold]

[daring ginkgo]

If i die, i will adjust

[alpine scaffold]

Are you already in secondary?

[daring ginkgo]

No

I am eating ice cream

[alpine scaffold]

May the God of rng bless you with the room to the east

[civic lance]

even main is going to be problematic with only bots

[jagged citrus]

i love when the level gets 200x easier thanks to rng spawns

[jagged citrus]

no spoilers

[jagged citrus]

king shit

[civic lance]

you just gave spoilers saing "no spoilers"

[daring ginkgo]

Eh, rng

[alpine scaffold]

Fun fact I never got the east room

[jagged citrus]

i think ive gotten it like once

made everything SO much easier

predictably

[burnt flume]

good luck foaming doors while stuck on the secondary objective, 3 sentries and shooting is probably the move for 1 player 3 bots

[jagged citrus]

yeah it would be a pain, you'd have to get lucky spawns

[alpine scaffold]

It's a craze to take C-foam for this kind of objective

xD

[jagged citrus]

i mean if you have four people its the play

[little ridge]

even 2 tbh

1 does terminal, 1 foams

[alpine scaffold]

I think the last time I seriously played with full squad was in R1

[alpine scaffold]

Dont spoil

[jagged citrus]

i mean it tells you the second you step into secondary

[little ridge]

🙄

[alpine scaffold]

[little ridge]

I'll tell you the ending of The Sixth Sense

[jagged citrus]

fool, i already know it

[little ridge]

Incidentally that'd be telling the ending of all Shamawhatever movies

[alpine scaffold]

Nothing told me that the R5C1 Uplink would be traumatizing

[little ridge]

Because he only knows one trick

[jagged citrus]

glad to know i dont have to watch any of the others then

[jagged citrus]

i havnet PLAYED r5c1

[alpine scaffold]

dont play

I mean

It is not hard

[jagged citrus]

i need cosmetics neon

i need the drip

[alpine scaffold]

But Holy hell

[jagged citrus]

i only have 1 robot leg

[alpine scaffold]

This caught us

[elder bane]

i whould be happy about a robot leg

maybe he wouldn't caugh like a dog after 5 seconds running D:

[alpine scaffold]

I like the rubber suits 😔

[jagged citrus]

i need the bladerunners from satisfactory

[vernal nebula]

That's good, Bots are the worst at tripmine & Foam over the other tools

[vernal nebula]

Absolutely, it's a reactor level and you have a Class X before that, I like bio tracker, 2 sentries, and mine for that level

[alpine scaffold]

But its so scarce on tool refill

[jagged citrus]

quad bio to assert dominance

[vernal nebula]

After the first alarm of the level C-foam has practically 0 use aside from coating the doors once, you can't permafoam for the Class X

Not even necessary for the Charger Scout since there's Yellow Syringes and C-foam Grenades

[alpine scaffold]

Tbh in the reactor itself we only use tripmines because of the shadow rooms

[vernal nebula]

Absolutely

[alpine scaffold]

And C-foam for time save on class X

We have 1 turret, but we barely use

[rose nova]

it's very useless even more being a diminished meaning enemies can double spawn in two doors different

tool on d2 is very very restrictive

u should use sentries on the X and only in the reactor

and u don't even need to give any tool to mines cause i think it gives u the perfect amount for the blood door and the class X

foam in exchange wouldn't need to be used in the later half of the level at all for nothing

only in the X, and it's iffy

[alpine scaffold]

We give tool to mines to pull the shadow rooms

[alpine scaffold]

In the Extraction

[rose nova]

that zone has many foam nades

[alpine scaffold]

Idk we're stuck at the 3/4 code hunt

I suck doing stealth in this zone

Idk the reason why

[rose nova]

cause it hard

[vernal nebula]

You could just kill charger scout and pull first room if stealth is going bad

It's possible to camp in there but I haven't tried it myself

[alpine scaffold]

We're playing duo + bots, I think this would be hard

[alpine scaffold]

We haven't tried pulling the chargers zone, but we are afraid of

[vernal nebula]

Have your teammate call the bots and have one person go in to kill, could just take burst cannon / scattergun

[little ridge]

BBCs are nasty to deal with but it's kinda like pulling the zones in R3D1

[alpine scaffold]

Wait you guys pull the zones in r3d1?

[vernal nebula]

Yes

[little ridge]

If noone is overconfident it's gonna be fine

[little ridge]

I think I never stealthed that once

and I've like 20 clears

[vernal nebula]

Especially because letting a Charger Scout go off in B is usually a wipe because the previous room will wake up

[jagged citrus]

if you're having trouble stealthing, go loud

shoot the scout, shoot everythign else, save health adn time

[vernal nebula]

Me in R7E1 Mom zone

[jagged citrus]

i havent played r7e1

no spoilers

[little ridge]

To be honest I rarely stealth rooms that I can skip because I always felt like it can sometimes just get unfair, where enemies are kinda cluttered a bit too much or just too much in the way with little breathing room

And other times they're all on one side and it's a walk in the park

[jagged citrus]

it is a bit of a toss of the diuce

[vernal nebula]

Also take supply efficiency if that's the issue of the team, had a lobby where most R5E1 scouts were woken up and we were still completely stocked

[alpine scaffold]

Whats about r5e1 scouts

[vernal nebula]

||Giant Waves (some Hybrids usually too)||

[lost lynx]

I need help

R1C1 too hard

[alpine scaffold]

One time we woke up the 5 scouts at r4d1 last code hunt
It was insane

[jagged citrus]

ask in lfg

[vernal nebula]

Most people just pull that room lol

[jagged citrus]

oh wait its you

idk bring more biotrackers

[alpine scaffold]

Use cconsole

[vernal nebula]

4 biotrackers and short rifle will get you through R1C1

[jagged citrus]

r1c1 spear only when

[alpine scaffold]

@junior latch

[jagged citrus]

i did have a friend who wanted to do r7c3 with four knives only

[lusty river]

Spear is the best melee rn hands down

[alpine scaffold]

When we were noob doing r1c1 in the first tries, We took C-foam thinking it was going to be efficient

[jagged citrus]

genius

cfoam the hybrids so you can shoot them easier!

[jagged citrus]

so true

[vernal nebula]

Look at all these doors we can foam during the reactor guys! Wait why are they not closing...

[jagged citrus]

the world if the prisoners figured out how to close security doors:

[vernal nebula]

How to turn any security door into a blood door

[alpine scaffold]

We called hybrids Giant shooters 😔

[jagged citrus]

no

nono

bad

hybrids and chickens

giant shooters dont exist

[robust dawn]

dead game ?

[quartz cape]

yes

[daring ginkgo]

mine explosions will damage mother/titan tumors?

[burnt flume]

yep

if they hit correctly, sometimes they get blocked by armour

[rose nova]

for tanks its a viaable [tho tool costly] strat

but on mothers its very iffy

incredibly easy to miss

[vernal nebula]

Usually Tanks have to be sprinting for the mines to target the tumors, at least if you place them on the wall

[jagged citrus]

takes like 8+ mines

[vernal nebula]

Only 7

[jagged citrus]

7 if nothing fucks up

[daring ginkgo]

r4c1 pe ez first try

[jagged citrus]

gg

howd the tank go?

[daring ginkgo]

i used 6 mines to damage his tumors

then killed him with my weapons

[jagged citrus]

👍

high ground?

[daring ginkgo]

yeah

[jagged citrus]

very nice

[vernal nebula]

That's pretty much the only way with a team of bots

[jagged citrus]

bots are useless against tanks

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, 1 bot got down instantly

[jagged citrus]

honestly shocked you only lost one

[daring ginkgo]

2 others were smart enough to follow me on second floor

[jagged citrus]

they're learning

[daring ginkgo]

but that 12 waves uplink lmao

[jagged citrus]

did you get shit spawn?

[daring ginkgo]

idk if it is shit, i got 1 wave from east and 1 from west

[jagged citrus]

two possible terminal spawns afaik, one in a room wtih four doors, adn the other in a room with one door

[vernal nebula]

I think it's always in the same room with 3 doors, have never seen any other locations

unlike other maps

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, no other terminals in this zone

[jagged citrus]

ive seen it in the furthest west room like once

waaay back

easiest uplink of my life

[daring ginkgo]

w8, there are few terminals, mb

[vernal nebula]

Ooh it can be other terminals, the one that's far west is definitely the best due to the smaller size

Although with bots the south spawn is better since you can't foam

[daring ginkgo]

anyway, my terminal was on far west

[jagged citrus]

you got the far west spawn? in that one room that only had one door nito it?