gtfo-chat

[raw shard]

when are we doing 50 player R1A1

[junior latch]

not that anyone wants to run r1a1

[unreal crystal]

literally more players than enemies at some point

[junior latch]

fuck the r1a1 checkpoint addition

[pseudo sedge]

top 10 most useless information: no one in the rest of r1a1 history will ever rerun it

[hidden flame]

this reminds me of something very funny on the solo leaderboard

[pine root]

I think we need to do the error commands

Like 3 times

With 40 players

[junior latch]

hm?

[stable copper]

i have 4 clears on r1a1, am i schizo ?

[unreal crystal]

No

[mystic moss]

prob

[hidden flame]

check the #1 and #2 runs

[mellow hedge]

4 runs

holy

[hidden flame]

i have 34 clears on it i think

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, as brand new player i died only 1 time on this lvl, on this particular alarm before checkpoint because bad tools managment

[pine root]

4 runs to many

[little ridge]

...

[mystic moss]

who tf flexes clear number

[little ridge]

I've a big number

[raw shard]

0 is the only acceptable amount

[junior latch]

yea?

[stable copper]

[little ridge]

Like around 80ish

[pine root]

Post your r5b4

[little ridge]

Of easy levels? Noone

[hidden flame]

#1 is 4:52 IGT pre-checkpoint
#2 is 4:56 IGT post-checkpoint

[mystic moss]

lool

[alpine scaffold]

I died ~20 times in my first hours of gtfo in r1a1

[raw shard]

I still just have no clue why there's a checkpoint there

[pine root]

sorry

[raw shard]

you don't see another checkpoint for the next 4 rundowns

[junior latch]

oh damn i forgot to change the time since i was on internship arrival

lemme do that real quick

[junior latch]

easy bait to get people to 3 hours

[little ridge]

Newbies play R1A1 for first and they want the player retention to go up (even by a bit)

[hidden flame]

new speedrunning drama 💅

[junior latch]

what drama lol

[unreal crystal]

checkpoint drama

[pine root]

goat drama feind

[little ridge]

Remember that tencent owns some decent part of 10cc so numbers like that are perhaps object of scrutiny

[hidden flame]

we can turn this into drama

[unreal crystal]

apparently

[junior latch]

checkpoints are always drama

[hidden flame]

goat loves drama!

[pine root]

cant go one day without drama

[junior latch]

fuck checkpoints

[ripe echo]

Newbie, trying r1a1 for my first game, what's bad about it?

[pine root]

i love checkpoints

[raw shard]

Literally anything is drama at this point

[mellow hedge]

drama again?!?!?!?!?!??!

[pine root]

i think they are good for the game

[mellow hedge]

holy

[wraith marsh]

nah lets get some real shit

[little ridge]

Nothing but people try that, fail, then quit

[wraith marsh]

why is r4e1 the E tier speedrunner hub

[little ridge]

With checkpoint less people quit

[unreal crystal]

We know why chill

[stable copper]

so true sleepo

[unreal crystal]

🤫

[pine root]

r5e1 having 3 mins of time save

[mellow hedge]

other level too hard for me

[little ridge]

They're perhaps just gonna quit AFTER but that's beside the point

[hidden flame]

i think you can hardly call it the hub, it's just the most recent fad

[pine root]

|.|

[hidden flame]

one team quit

[pine root]

just for us to become r4e1 runners

[hidden flame]

another team only ran 1-2 runs

[pine root]

1 run

[hidden flame]

another team is clique and probably aren't pushing for another time

[mellow hedge]

hey hey hey

im up for grabs

[wraith marsh]

dont spoil the mystery time smh

[mystic moss]

give frosty (the lore one**) a speedrunning home 😔

[mellow hedge]

fr

[unreal crystal]

why don’t you run vozy

[pine root]

fem boy wanting to be grabbed

crazy

[mellow hedge]

okay nvm voxy

[unreal crystal]

R6c1 runner participant

[mellow hedge]

[hidden flame]

frosty can speedrun with me when he comes over to this shithole and gets a curry with me

[mystic moss]

ex-first place holder***

[unreal crystal]

oh true

Much better sounding title honestly

[mellow hedge]

its okay

theres still like 10 seconds time save

you can do this!!!!!!

[raw shard]

I am never touching that level again lmao

[mellow hedge]

i mean its more but no one optimising

[unreal crystal]

yeah they’d have to tie me to my chair and hold me at gunpoint

Ngl

[mellow hedge]

i would

NGL

[hidden flame]

wouldn't it piss reyna off if you played with another team of people he doesn't like and beat his time by like 3+ minutes?

i feel like i'm missing something here

[raw shard]

the optimisation is praying to god that the fucking moons and stars align

[mystic moss]

uh oh

[junior latch]

honestly

fuck this

im gonna make

[unreal crystal]

I love that optimisation

[junior latch]

r1a1

but checkpoint

not gonna archive all the old runs

[raw shard]

I hate to break it to you but it already has one

[junior latch]

for 10c change

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[junior latch]

the category

[raw shard]

[junior latch]

brandon

[unreal crystal]

are we getting 2 checkpoints now

[raw shard]

You should put it on the resource room

[wraith marsh]

I love checkpoints 🤤

[unreal crystal]

it’s mandatory

[junior latch]

as if i even knew how to mod

[raw shard]

false -> true

done

[mellow hedge]

i mean our run had a lot of time loss

first scan was like average at best

[raw shard]

yea

[hidden flame]

ok im back to dying and feeling ill

[raw shard]

getting it all in one run is just

so painful

[mellow hedge]

-7 seconds to pb

[unreal crystal]

it’s not worth

[pine root]

are your a gtfo balance team member?

[mystic moss]

if you die does pachi come back

[mellow hedge]

and theres a faster giant zone strat

[raw shard]

yes I am going to put checkpoints on rundowns 1-5 now

all doors

[unreal crystal]

please no

[hidden flame]

NOT MORE TEAM SCANS

[wraith marsh]

LET SGOOOOo

[mellow hedge]

can i say things im not allowed to say in the server

[raw shard]

I think someone already made a mod that adds checkpoints to all levels

[mystic moss]

it already takes a bajillion years in p*bs to reach the team scan

[unreal crystal]

Change every single door in the game to a sec door and put a checkpoint on all of them

[hidden flame]

they did

[raw shard]

They picked some ok spots and some really awful spots

I had a look through with cconsole to see where they put them on R5D1

iirc it's on pmom door

[hidden flame]

no, if i die you get a rotting goat carcass in your back garden

[mystic moss]

um ok

[hidden flame]

im eating your grass

all the shrubbery

[mystic moss]

goat do you want my psych meds, you might need them more than me

[hidden flame]

saves hiring a gardener eh

[unreal crystal]

vox is gonna sacrifice a goat now?

[stable copper]

add a moving checkpoint scan on host, whenever full team near host it save once

[mystic moss]

i need to wash away the sins of 10cc

[junior latch]

well

[hidden flame]

no psych meds needed, it's simply delirium from an infection

[mystic moss]

i will forgive them for nerfing sniper

[hidden flame]

it will pass

[junior latch]

@pine root

the gtfo% a1

is now record

yaaay

[mellow hedge]

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEE

[junior latch]

we all love r1a1 checkpoint

[mystic moss]

drama averted

onto to the next...

[raw shard]

Now is a great time to bring up ping everywhere

[hidden flame]

ooooo now i get to be on 2 leaderboards at once!

[pine root]

na

please

i am not an a teir runner

[junior latch]

also

[hidden flame]

the 2:28 will never be broken

[junior latch]

can you please

bully void

[pine root]

for

[junior latch]

into making highlights

[pine root]

what reason

[junior latch]

and not uploading a 40 hour vod

FOR ALL RUNS

[pine root]

XD

[raw shard]

Youtube can't handle 40 hours though

[pine root]

no i think not

[raw shard]

I guess he could've released in parts

[junior latch]

he uploaded his highlighted 40 hour twitch vod

he can legit just make twitch highlights

for each run

its not hard

[pine root]

can you verifiy the r5e1

[junior latch]

no

[pine root]

cause it is so funny

[junior latch]

oh

sry

[pine root]

you should have to watch it rn

[raw shard]

How far did you guys end up getting in the end?

[junior latch]

you mean that one

[pine root]

r8d2

[hidden flame]

send link

[pine root]

we ran out of time

[raw shard]

That's so sad

[hidden flame]

i want to watch

[pine root]

beacuse of bread

[mystic moss]

what's the plan for gtfo 100%, are you just gonna die from sleep deprivation

[junior latch]

im working on writing out the rules

[raw shard]

I love leaving gtfo open for 40 hours and watching the game explode

[alpine scaffold]

wait the guys didn't 100% gtfo speedrun?

[junior latch]

but wont do so immediatly unless someone wants to run it immediatly

like legit

JUST ASK ME

if you wanna run

dont be like jish

[raw shard]

just mains

[junior latch]

[pine root]

100 is 40 hour s

[junior latch]

but generally

[pine root]

of gameplay

[mellow hedge]

only main

[junior latch]

you are allowed a good amount of breaktime

[raw shard]

I hella down to do 100%

[mellow hedge]

i think 100% is like more than that tbh

[junior latch]

and game restarts are allowed

[junior latch]

40 hours of gtfo fun

[raw shard]

[hidden flame]

if i did 100% i would need to stock up on sandwiches and other snacks

[alpine scaffold]

but didn't reached the last level?

[mellow hedge]

i will gtfo% 100% at some point with void

[mystic moss]

blame bread

[mellow hedge]

ran out of time on d2

[alpine scaffold]

oh

[mystic moss]

just saying i would've committed....

[raw shard]

You definitely need to take breaks to not fucking die from blood clots

[mellow hedge]

you dont commit to me

[junior latch]

the rules arent 100% set yet

but you get breaks lol

small ones and actual break time

[raw shard]

5 minute break every 24 hours

[junior latch]

also glitches happening mean you are allowed a free reset for that level with no time lost

[mystic moss]

is shooter bug going to be addressed? or does it even matter?

[junior latch]

huh?

it is adressed

i litteraly just did

[raw shard]

just restart your game every 2 hours

[alpine scaffold]

i tried to donate to the guy streaming on youtube but did wrong(idk the reason)

[hidden flame]

swap your weapons

restart game

[mystic moss]

oh yeah that's the bandaid fix

[junior latch]

if you get it and it has definite impact you have to redo that level

[raw shard]

nah that's fucked up

[junior latch]

wont take away your time

??

[raw shard]

if it happens near the end of an E tier

[junior latch]

if it has definite impact

[raw shard]

or god forbid R5B1

[junior latch]

and you dont even lose time

[raw shard]

You might since you have to replay the level

might choke it

[hidden flame]

affects morale

[raw shard]

ye

[junior latch]

in the same way you can get a shit run with a glitch

[hidden flame]

seen with the r1 stuff in the gtfo% earlier

[junior latch]

then get a better one

it happens

[raw shard]

yeah but the difference is you have 24 hours on your back

[junior latch]

only if you are stupid

you get breaks

lol

obviously it sucks

but we gotta define rules somehow

[raw shard]

I think it's a little excessive but alright

[junior latch]

so what do you propose
someone gets shooter bug, doesnt die (maybe even with already having multiple downs) now can revive

its litteraly a glitched run then

if its only a minor impact it gets overlooked

similar to how say subnautica does it with OoB

[raw shard]

you can definitely tell if someone does it intentionally, the game makes shooters miss even when you aren't bugged sometimes

does that count too?

[junior latch]

huh?

no i mean actual shooter bug impact

[raw shard]

I've definitely had projectiles just go through me sometimes when I just started the game

I'm asking how you'd be able to tell the difference between actually being bugged and it being a freak occurance

[junior latch]

because we dont just look at 1 projectile
and because players can tell

[raw shard]

I mean yeah fair enough if a hybrid full volleys you and you stand still then it's very obvious

[junior latch]

also players restart their game during the gtfo% a lot anyway

so they can avoid cfoam bug

[raw shard]

solution

just don't go down

[junior latch]

huh

[pine root]

sometimes

i cant tell

if i dodged like a god

or if i am bugged

then i stand still and see what happens

[junior latch]

and either you are immortal

or you get your ass blasted

[raw shard]

Sometimes it looks like I'm bugged then I stand still and get rolled by a flyer to see

[pine root]

XD

i love it

[raw shard]

do you remember on R6 release when flyers did double damage

what a time

[hidden flame]

do this all the time

[pine root]

we should go back

[raw shard]

so real

[hidden flame]

"am i shooter bugged", take 15% to a shooter "nope, not shooter bugged"

[junior latch]

ah yes the r6 extension funny bug

[raw shard]

I love the random bug where you get hit by a shooter and take 80%

Literally no clue what causes it and it's only ever happened to me once

But I've seen it happen to others

[junior latch]

hp not being updated?

[raw shard]

not that

for sure

[junior latch]

ive had that happen and it doesnt clear until i took dmg

[raw shard]

I will find the clip

[junior latch]

[wraith marsh]

I have an awesome clip of that

[raw shard]

25GB clips folder diving time

it honestly looks like

the projectile hits me 17 times

in one frame

I go to 29% then 1%

[wraith marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782449204035321886/1133156512102092902/GTFO_2023-07-24_16-57-49_Trim.mp4?ex=665ee57d&is=665d93fd&hm=05714feed07e1d3831599dcc7fd583f21409b128dc756554e6ce7845cca33b6e&

[raw shard]

from 53%

also taking packs helper is a bad idea on R7D2

you literally just cannot see

[junior latch]

[raw shard]

There's literally

zero other enemies

the shooter is just cracked I guess

[junior latch]

2 shadow giant licks obviously+

skill issued brandon just not good enough

unironically
thats so funny

[raw shard]

even that should be death since 48 + 5

[junior latch]

cuz you actually drop

[raw shard]

it drops just instantly

[junior latch]

theres a few frames

where its in the process

so its not 1 instance

[raw shard]

You can actually see

there's like

15 projectiles

[junior latch]

29%
15%
1%

[junior latch]

4% dmg projectile could be

[raw shard]

real

I love unity rounding errors

[junior latch]

but honestly

since i doubt that you randomly took 2 giant licks

[raw shard]

it surely wont affect reloading

[junior latch]

outta nowhere

maybe friendly fire

[raw shard]

Well I would've had massive aim punch if I got licked

[hidden flame]

it was d0cr3d silent shooting you for using mods

[raw shard]

so true

punishable by death

[junior latch]

but ye honestly i dont know if this could definetly not be the hp desync since the clip lacks more content

but its just too crazy

[raw shard]

Player resize is actually so fucking fun to run as a challenge ngl

it's not because if I was on 100% which is the only hp you can be on to have that visual desync, then the shooter did 99%

[junior latch]

is it?

[raw shard]

Yeah it occurs on drop

when you are at 100%

[junior latch]

huh

but ive had moments where i was stuck after getting medied

medid?

anywasy

it showed 20% but i had 60%

[raw shard]

oh right it can happen on medis?

[junior latch]

yep

[raw shard]

I've never seen that lol

[junior latch]

its desync issue

[raw shard]

must be super bad desync to host

[junior latch]

yep

i probably got that as much as i got void bug

so like 10-15 times

[raw shard]

if you pause just after I get hit you can see a bunch more projectile trails than just the one

#gtfo-media message that aint normal

[pine root]

i think the shooter

ulted you

[raw shard]

fuck you're right

[pine root]

should have been tracking the cooldown

[raw shard]

I legit want to add Reinhardt's ult to the game

[pine root]

.0

[raw shard]

I think it would be really funny

[pine root]

PLEASE let me ball from overwatch in gtfo

[raw shard]

LMAO

[pine root]

i have become addicted to playing ball in qp

to bully children

[raw shard]

qp is more sweaty than ranked in recent day

[pine root]

IDK

why

[gritty berry]

Any GTFO levels that have an Error surge alarm?

[tall hawk]

Closest thing to it would've been R8B4 ending error before nerf

nothing else comes to mind

[hidden flame]

R6d4 ending probably

as good as you are going to get

[tall hawk]

oh right

[hidden flame]

alternatively you could try stacking terminal error alarm commands

[raw shard]

Doesn't R8E2 have one when the timer runs out

[junior latch]

afaik thats not quite a surge

[raw shard]

close enough

[junior latch]

ye

[shut vapor]

It might not BE a surge but it might as well be treated as one

feel like we need more surge errors :3

[junior latch]

tbh

An extreme error

just kinda sounds cooler

[rose nova]

yes

oops

discord didn't show me all the messages nice

[river marlin]

wtf is R4E1 i dont see myself finishing that mission any time soon...

[lost lynx]

2nd hardest mission in the game

so

good luck prisioner

:)

[river marlin]

yeah, hange was carrying and we reached the reactor but it all went to the ground real fast...

[pine root]

You made it to reactor

Your almost done ngl

it is a werid reactor where the codes are pretty much guaranteed to repeat

And you “need” to 2/2 or 1/3 split

[river marlin]

2/2 didnt work cause of my skill issue

[pine root]

It hard but it can be duoed

[river marlin]

maybe in another 100 hours ill try it again

lmao

[pine root]

so if your half a person you got this

[pine root]

I think you can keep trying it now

If it is in lfgs you will probs clear it in two attempts

With your buds 10

[river marlin]

i wish i had as much faith as you

but ill go play some raft now

[pine root]

Nw

But you would be surprised everything after reactor is very easy

[pastel dagger]

just be defender

[river marlin]

good to know i was almost there

[pastel dagger]

literally become sentry

[river marlin]

i was with precision rifle so not my proudest aim on defense today...

[pastel dagger]

we actually wiped to mom and dad wombo combo and our friend mega clutched and saved the already beyond scuffed run

[pine root]

Ya

You wipe to it once

Then never again

[pastel dagger]

well

we completed the mission within the wipe

[pine root]

nice

[river marlin]

[pastel dagger]

so it technically was first try but extremely scuffed

[river marlin]

well, good luck fellas

[pine root]

Gl

[river marlin]

bye bye

aight ill GO

[pastel dagger]

first we had the 2 out of 2 die

i helped but because the one part of the room didnt render at all (pitch black) i didnt see charger there

wiped

last guy saved me and then i saved the rest

[ocean hinge]

des fr dispo?

[alpine scaffold]

why

why 2 logs on r5b2 overload

[rose nova]

:]

u can do ov but not sec

oh no nevermind

it opens with sec doesnt it

[sharp owl]

whats general vc for

[lost lynx]

for random stuff

[sharp owl]

oki

[hidden flame]

or for when you want to have too many people in a call

[rose nova]

iguess u could say its for

general stuff

gottem

[velvet loom]

anyone ?

[rose nova]

hello

[blissful dome]

?

[velvet loom]

Nm is good got my answer

Thanks tho

[daring ginkgo]

Hel shotgun good only vs group of enemies? What about single target dmg? (Giants)

[earnest forge]

It dispatchs them quickly enough, but it really shines against hordes of smaller enemies

It is not great against Giant Shooters, for instance, but they are not that frequent in the game.

[wraith marsh]

as far as mains goes its good against everything

it has a lot more damage per refill than every main except sawed off so dont feel bad spamming it into large enemies

[daring ginkgo]

Ok, i want to use it on r2d2 today

Cause i have some problems vs giants or few enemies together with other weapons

Sawed off is great, but lack in group killing power

[wraith marsh]

you will probably feel the lack of range on that level but it is workable

[daring ginkgo]

For medium range i use Arbalist, for close range - shotgun

I feel, that long range kinda not working for me at least, cause enemies run so fast to you, you just cant reliably kill them all from far distance

And there are a lot of enemies, so it is easier to deal vs them in close range

[robust dawn]

Hel shotgun on r2d2 works but u have to get close

U can go defend at a spot where the enemies will have to be close to u, or ucan just walk up to them and kill

[daring ginkgo]

I use reactor room as first spot, then spot on zone 196 from Scaler video, with 2 closed doors and 1 open for funnel

I just cant defend on bridge, too much running with bots

[robust dawn]

Ive never defended in the reactor room itself...n

[daring ginkgo]

My pb was with this strat (6 full waves), bridge is 5 max

But now i gonna use different strat with resource managment and hel shotgun instead sawed off

[robust dawn]

How do you usually did

Die

[daring ginkgo]

Mostly on wave defend, if turrets ran out of ammo

[robust dawn]

Where do u die

And how r u running out of tool by wave 5/6

[daring ginkgo]

On pb attempt i died on alarm door leading to zone 195(?) most north zone

[daring ginkgo]

Idk, i use 2 burst turrets on first few waves, they consume like 150 rounds per wave each i think

[robust dawn]

How much ammo for ur own weapons are u left with

[daring ginkgo]

First 3 unlocked zones, where you have to find codes has 1 tool refills each, sometime 2 in one of those zones

From 60% to max, cause i opened all lockers on reactor room and bots keep consuming resources, it was a mistake, i figured yesterday

[robust dawn]

? 60% ammo after a wave?

[daring ginkgo]

More or less, sometimes it is 30%, if bots ran out of ammo refills

I got your point:use weapons more

[robust dawn]

Have u tried shooting more? And i feel like the bots are just wasting their time refilling u

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, thats why i open few lockers on first few waves now, to find tool refill, then stop, until i low on ammo/tools

[robust dawn]

Also how are ur combat skills

[daring ginkgo]

My other problem is time limits, cause almost each new zone has stupid fog and i mostly cant afford to ping stuff on terminal

[robust dawn]

Do u stand still or barely move while shooting or are u actively trying to put as much distance between u and sleepers

And if they come close u can shove them or end them with a shotgun

[daring ginkgo]

When i used long ranged weapons on bridge, i tried to keep my distance

[robust dawn]

What about at the alarm to 195

[daring ginkgo]

With arbalist and sawed off i barely moved in reactor room

I reached this alarm door only once on low hp and ammo and died fast

[robust dawn]

Are sleepers coming behind u

[daring ginkgo]

No

[robust dawn]

What do u take damage from

[daring ginkgo]

On wave

[robust dawn]

Strikers gettjng close to u?

[daring ginkgo]

Sometimes, or hybrids sneaky shots

[robust dawn]

Well try and focus on hybrid because those bots wont take care of it

Like a burst cannon or shotgun will do

[daring ginkgo]

Most troublesome zone for me rn is 196 (second terminal code), cause zone is big, a lot of enemies, fog

[robust dawn]

Well pull them out of the fog and wait for them at a chokepoint

[daring ginkgo]

There are like 5-6 resource boxes in it, but i rarely find them

[robust dawn]

Have the bots ping the lockers when u get close to them while walking through fog

[daring ginkgo]

Thanks for advices, i will try again today to see, what i can do

[robust dawn]

Could also use fog repellers

[daring ginkgo]

Btw, what about turret placement in reactor room? I place them just facing to bridge inside reactor room, but maybe it is better other way, to save their ammo? Like this (avoiding line of sight of turrets)

\ / (turrets, face on reactor door)

------ (reactor door)

! ! ! ! (Team)

[hoary crescent]

wow thats such a cute little design for the turrets

[daring ginkgo]

This way turret will not shoot enemies from max distance but rather from almost point blank range and my team will shot them from other side, meaning enemies will be kinda sandwiched

My assumption

[robust dawn]

I dont know... i dont defend there

Ill just have enemies coming from three sides

[daring ginkgo]

Where you defend?

[robust dawn]

Bridge or 196

[stable copper]

woah new patch

[junior latch]

Why are you placing them behind the enemies?

Max distance doesnt mean anything. You are pretty much removing their ability to headshot (pretty damn important for burst sentries)

[junior latch]

Also the point aside that arbalist is making this a lot tougher than it probably needs to be. But arbalist range isnt anything where you want to shoot at high ranges

[daring ginkgo]

Okay

[junior latch]

well, it would be good if you used hel auto sentrys

but uh

they still arent rly great unless you use them in a great angle and dont care about their tool consumption

[daring ginkgo]

Isnt those turrets just for stagger?

[junior latch]

they are mainly stagger

but if you get to place them at a ladder behind the enemies it does decent damage + pen

[daring ginkgo]

Maybe shotgun turrets can be good? If i place them like this

▶️ ◀️ (turrets, facing each other)
_______ reactor door 🤔

[raven notch]

meta sentry is burst sentry

shotgun sentry is kinda ineffective in a lot of situations imo

[mellow hedge]

no

[junior latch]

No

[wraith marsh]

no

[daring ginkgo]

I assume hel turrets are not good there? Cause no tight tunnel or ladders where i can abuse penetration

[mellow hedge]

pretty much just use burst and like a sniper

[junior latch]

Burst: basically always at least ok. Usually the best and easiest to use
Struggles with chargers and giant waves (also not that great vs nightmares)

Sniper: niche but very strong there. Good vs what burst is usually weak (chargers/giants/nightmares). Requires good sight lines

Auto sentry: stagger (rarely best option) and the funny rare back dmg abuse

Shotgun sentrys: misses as much as auto sentry. Unreliable and close range
Honestly. Hel auto sentry seems like a better shotgun sentry now (with boths best spot being ladders)

Sniper:

[mellow hedge]

rule of thumb is burst

[junior latch]

i will actually go over this in more detail in the alarm guide but thats the gist very roughly

[daring ginkgo]

Okay, well, i have nothing to lose, maybe i will try every sentry combination, who knows

[mellow hedge]

burst sentry is DOOKIE against nightmares

i actually much rather see hel auto when doing randomiser than burst

[junior latch]

Well it depends on if its a wave Or a trickle

Actually

[mellow hedge]

na still ass

[junior latch]

Does burst sentry aim for their weakspot

[mellow hedge]

i do not know

but id much rather my sentry stagger the nightmares than take 4 fuckin bursts to kill or whatever it is

[junior latch]

If it does then its far more efficient as help dmg but has far less overall output

3 bursts and 1 dmg

well

Its far better than vs chargers either way

unless burst goes for nightmare head

[mellow hedge]

well the thing is hel rifle is the gun for nightmares

[junior latch]

[junior latch]

Hel rifle hel revo go brr

[mellow hedge]

so stagger is much more useful than damage

[junior latch]

or balsy sawed off hel rifle

[mellow hedge]

hel rifle hel revo is THE gum combination for nightmares

sawed off even more if you arent bad

but at least with hel revo you have leeway with shots

[junior latch]

Hel revo / hel rifle just have great synergy working of hel rifle

sawed off is better singular than hel revo

[mellow hedge]

ya

[junior latch]

Also its funny how slug doesnt 1 shot nightmares

imagine taking slug vs chargers/giants/nightmares/shooters

its so shit could just pick sawed off (or dmr)

Even vs strikers sawed off having more ammo and good leeway

[stable copper]

buff slug!

[junior latch]

Imagine if the gun had range to counterbalance its bleh dmg profile

[mellow hedge]

gotta be like in the enemy to one shot body shot

[grand vortex]

New patch hits different.

I assume the networking won't ever be fixed and we'll just have to deal with it

[mellow hedge]

wdym

[grand vortex]

Host migration is fucked, client-host sync is bad in a lot of places, and I've had multiple cases of random disconnects

[mellow hedge]

That sounds like a you problem

[grand vortex]

Have you ever used host migration?

[mellow hedge]

I don't usually just leave as a host or vise versa

[grand vortex]

There u go

[mellow hedge]

Thats a stupid argument tho

[junior latch]

Why would host even leave

[civic lance]

crash?

host crashes and whole lobby is f'd

[junior latch]

how often does that happen tho unless the host got shit unstable internet (but then why host)

[untold cypress]

more often than you think

prime example: australian internet is dogwater

im australian

[robust dawn]

Dont be australian theb

[untold cypress]

i have to deal with all yall bullshit, 300ms ping, random disconnects

nup

too late :D

[junior latch]

if you arent host disconnects arent the issue tho

[junior latch]

well i havent seen many host crashes in 3K hours

[civic lance]

but if someone doesnt have a stable enough conection to host then how they are suposed to play just wait for someone to post a lfg of a level they want

[junior latch]

well… yes?

if someone has shit internet in server based games and disconnects all the time

its not different in that case

[pseudo sedge]

i can confirm: do not turn on an infection shooter surge alarm as u will eventually crash from lack of ram

[untold cypress]

I literally couldn't respond to you cause my internet crapped out just then :D

[pseudo sedge]

the memory leak is too strong

[junior latch]

One of the rare cases

Then again we forced that shit to happen

[junior latch]

[untold cypress]

Basically was gonna say that when playing with people in the same country as me shit will just happen and people will desync so hard we have to reset, OR we get kicked from host and sent back to the start of the level

Maybe you can't get so many hours in this game unless your internet is flawless cause you live in the US of A

[junior latch]

desync happens yea and is an issue

Host crashing tho isnt common

[junior latch]

I have german internet

Not flawless by any means

[untold cypress]

That's arguably better still

[junior latch]

Desync between me and a friend 5 min of a walk away

[robust dawn]

Skill issue

[junior latch]

then no desync with someone in america

pog

[untold cypress]

Our country invested a shit ton of money to get fiber optic placed into people's homes and meanwhile it ended up worse for our general internet speeds for most people

[civic lance]

i guess thats fair

[untold cypress]

But yeah like you're right even in that case host crash and lobby resets are rare but definitely do happen

Just stating from experience

And it's a programming skill issue that it wasn't designed with host migration in mind

Games with matches shorter than 10m have it implemented meanwhile GTFO lobbies can go for hours

[junior latch]

eh, i agree that they are longer than most other games

but the max realistically is 2 hours and even thatd RARE unless you slow down a lot

[untold cypress]

That's true

[mellow hedge]

I am an australian

I have been dealing with 300ms for months

if you are dc'ing its your internet

[little ridge]

I've no idea what solution you'd want

[civic lance]

yea after typing i realised what a shit argument that is lol

[grand vortex]

This would all be fixed with dedicated servers, but i assume that's too costly for a relatively small team like 10c.

[mellow hedge]

EH

I think this system is fine

[little ridge]

would it?

[mellow hedge]

Also it would not fix it

[pseudo sedge]

Dedicated servers dont fix the issue? how would ping get fixed?

[grand vortex]

I mean tbe disconnects

[little ridge]

Let me be sincere: if your internet is bad (and I had Italian internet for a looong time), it ain't up to the developers and no form of hosting is gonna fix it

[untold cypress]

That's what I've been saying

💀

[mellow hedge]

The disconnects are ur problem

[untold cypress]

Tf

[grand vortex]

Are they?

[mellow hedge]

Yes

[grand vortex]

They happen to friends often

[little ridge]

I'd phrase it as: the disconnects aren't the devs problem

[grand vortex]

Huh

[untold cypress]

How can you literally defend the game for not being accessible to their entire audience of people who have internet issues

[mellow hedge]

Same thing

[little ridge]

Internet simply ain't built on P2P

[mellow hedge]

I dont know what you expect from an online game

[little ridge]

And dedicated servers have costs AND a whole lot of other issues

[untold cypress]

P2P is not the only way to run multiplayer games

[mellow hedge]

You have ass internet

Its an online game

[untold cypress]

Bro we get it you pay 150 per month for gigabit NBN

[grand vortex]

I literally dont

[pseudo sedge]

so what is the solution? u get a stable internet connection or u play on a server and still have an unstable internet connection and dc?

[mellow hedge]

Literally dont

[little ridge]

Oh I'd like games to go back to server browsers and dedicated server but it ain't gonna happen, that's behind the scope of discussing GTFO in the detail

[mellow hedge]

I live in a new area and have 1 internet option that is okay at best

[little ridge]

Most EU countries have flat rates FYI

[mellow hedge]

I dont have the luxury of good internet even if i wanted it

[little ridge]

And the speed doesn't matter

Latency is going to shit from 1 continent to the other

No matter your speed

[mellow hedge]

Yes

[little ridge]

Because that's not how the internet works

[mellow hedge]

Dedicated server wont do shit

[pseudo sedge]

honestly this game doesn't fucking need dedicated servers, p2p is less stable but simply having a stable connection makes it work good enough up to the point where no one cares

[mellow hedge]

If im connecting to a european server i will still have a shit connection

[untold cypress]

Well how am I as a customer of the video game supposed to say yes I'm now gonna pay extra just to play this specific game even tho I don't have issues with doing literally anything else on the internet

[little ridge]

Blame your ISP?

[junior latch]

Great. Now playing with friends across the worlds is shit

[grand vortex]

I'm not saying it should have dedicated servers. It's too costly and honestly not worth it. But I feel like some issues would he fixed with them

[pseudo sedge]

dude, the same issue applies if u play on a server vs p2p

[mellow hedge]

Some

[little ridge]

Nor even that tbh

[untold cypress]

I pay 50 dollars or something to play a primarily multiplayer focused game how is it such a big ask to prioritise multiplayer accessibility on the most popular engine in the video games industry

[little ridge]

The pathing gets better

[untold cypress]

Like holy shit

[little ridge]

But that's about it

[mellow hedge]

Whats with all the yapping

[little ridge]

Unless you rent a server halfway, you're always gonna have shit latency playing from EU to China

[untold cypress]

Yea well I don't have issues like this on other games so that rules that out

[mellow hedge]

I literally played GTFO on fucking 12mbps internet

[untold cypress]

That's literally good

[pseudo sedge]

what other games? do u play LoL on EUW from china?

[mellow hedge]

NO IT ISNT

[untold cypress]

IT IS BRO

[mellow hedge]

THATS 1.5 MEGABYTES PS

[untold cypress]

YES

THAT

[grand vortex]

Playing on 500kpbs at grandma's House rn

[untold cypress]

IS

GOOD

[mellow hedge]

Idk wtf ur on

you are living in the desert

[untold cypress]

Bro I'd be lucky to get those speeds in 5am when the traffic is the lowest

[pseudo sedge]

what do u have? and where are u from (continent) and play with?

[untold cypress]

Melbourne, using TPG and we got NBN installed a few years ago

[pseudo sedge]

nvm i saw australia higher

[grand vortex]

You sure you don't mean megabytes?

[mellow hedge]

Thats crazy

you are literally in the biggest city in australia

[pseudo sedge]

HOW THE FUCK DO U HAVE SUCH SHIT INTERNET

[mellow hedge]

do an internet speed test right now

[untold cypress]

Frosty literally said megabytes

[grand vortex]

Megabits

[mellow hedge]

12mb

[untold cypress]

That's what I been saying

[mellow hedge]

12 Mega bits

[untold cypress]

Yes

/ 8

[grand vortex]

Not megabytes my guy

[untold cypress]

To get 1.5 mb

[mellow hedge]

do an internet speed test rn

[untold cypress]

Dude are you dumb

[pseudo sedge]

well u found ur issue man

[untold cypress]

I get it

I can't even fucking do one rn

[mellow hedge]

Yes you can

[pseudo sedge]

but yeah if u play on EU host and with that unstable connection u will obv disconnect randomly

[robust dawn]

It would be better to use the wifi at mc donalda

[mellow hedge]

If you can talk here you can do a speed test

[grand vortex]

speedtest.net

[mellow hedge]

i can do a speed test when my internet goes to 0.01mbps

[untold cypress]

Trying to work through my wifi extender being a bitch rn

[mellow hedge]

BROTHER

Search on internet "internet speed test"

[robust dawn]

Sister

[untold cypress]

Dude holy fuck ok

[grand vortex]

This conversation has nothing to do with gtfo anymore lmao

[untold cypress]

Idgaf bro

Nah legit

[grand vortex]

Please do a speedtest

[robust dawn]

Hes sleeping on the speedtest

[grand vortex]

speedtest.net

[civic lance]

it went from host crashes to shitting on the guy for his internet XD

[mellow hedge]

Im not

[grand vortex]

Real

[untold cypress]

#gtfo-media

[pseudo sedge]

bro

bro

[mellow hedge]

Its just so hard to search "internet speed test"

[pseudo sedge]

how

that

[grand vortex]

Speedtest.net please

[pseudo sedge]

I HAVE NEVER SEEN that

[untold cypress]

Its my wifi extender

[pseudo sedge]

it is in media

[untold cypress]

I can't connect on my pc

Where I play the game

Cause I'm debugging this shit

[robust dawn]

R u even connected to the wifi

[mellow hedge]

Google literally has one if you just search "internet speed test" as well its not that hard

[grand vortex]

Speedtest.net is the best and most reliable

[untold cypress]

Nah

This is what I'm saying I can't check rn

[mellow hedge]

Then how

are you

talking here

[untold cypress]

I have mobile data

Jfc

[mellow hedge]

If your internet is so shit

Use your mobile data

[civic lance]

the guy is connected to discord via bluetooth

[untold cypress]

And burn through my data like instantly thanks

[grand vortex]

Using carrier pigeons to send messages lol

[mellow hedge]

Ah yes because its gonna do that

[untold cypress]

Yes cause I'm on a phone plan

[mellow hedge]

How many GB?

[untold cypress]

Like 8 per month

[mellow hedge]

Get a better plan bro

Thats insane

[untold cypress]

Before my fam had a Kogan thing where they pre-paid for a year but it was a lot of money and turns out we don't use much data

[grand vortex]

Bro that's fine what

[untold cypress]

I don't use data for games bruh

How am I in the wrong for not having the best internet

[grand vortex]

I use like 2gb a month at most

[mellow hedge]

How much do you pay a month

[little ridge]

You aren't but neither is the game

[untold cypress]

I think the game is literally designed to make as much money by being able to be played by as many ppl as possible

[untold cypress]

Like 20 ish iirc

[mellow hedge]

damn

[grand vortex]

U getting scammed mate

[untold cypress]

Rip

My takeaway from this conversation is I have skill issue

:D

Idk I guess I'm done now

[daring ginkgo]

You talking about gtfo?

[grand vortex]

He was

[daring ginkgo]

I never seen that much players in lobby, who regret buying this game, because they thought it is just another basic coop shooter

[untold cypress]

Its a very fun game but yes I don't disagree

[daring ginkgo]

So yeah, this game not for everyone 😂

[untold cypress]

That's valid

[grand vortex]

A game for everyone is a game for no-one

[daring ginkgo]

I cant believe i fcking theory crafting and try to beat single lvl for few days now, thats how i am hooked

[untold cypress]

I really enjoy the game and in my close friend group it has given me such good experiences with my friends and with randoms I've sometimes had really crazy funny moments

[junior latch]

its my 2nd most played game of all time

and the 1st is not smth that i rate as highly

[untold cypress]

I bought the hoodie and one of the posters online for this game and I never buy merch for anything with Aussie shipping prices

The orange hoodie is actually sick as hell ngl

[junior latch]

I have litteraly bought no merch

but ive got nearly all merch

[pseudo sedge]

we do not talk about that game...

[untold cypress]

🔥

[stable copper]

Does it have rock?...

[untold cypress]

That's actually dope af

[junior latch]

won a bunch at gamescom (at two different ones)

i have the insanely sick limited edition striker artwork

with all signatures

[hidden path]

Ok but where is the spitter juice Proclaim promised me 2 years ago

[junior latch]

actually so cool

[junior latch]

Its in perfume form

which i have two of

[hidden path]

Poggers

[junior latch]

the weirdest thing had to be the gtfo toilet paper tho

[untold cypress]

Disinfection pack more like GTFO branded Capri sun

[untold cypress]

XDDD no way

[hidden path]

You have the booster coffee too I assume?

[junior latch]

Gtfo coffee is a thing

yep

[hidden path]

That's like the one thing I really wanna get

[untold cypress]

Cave grown beans

[junior latch]

I litteraly own like nearly everything

[hidden path]

But the shipping cost must be absolutely insane

[junior latch]

i dont have the cooler obviously

[hidden path]

What about the diapers

[untold cypress]

EU is pretty bad for shipping

[hidden path]

No merch collection is complete without the diapers

[junior latch]

im missing the limited edition „get on that heist shit“ 10 chambers jacket (had it in my hands but an asshole who doesnt even play the game yoinked it)

I had the orange limited edition hoodie but gifted it away (wasnt my size)

I dont have the diaper

Also missing a few variants (dont have the golden gtfo chain but the silver one)

Diaper is so sad

[untold cypress]

The merch is actual proper quality stuff

[junior latch]

yep

the hoodies and shirts are cool af

did you know that 10 chambers gave away trophies at gamescom

and i own both

but tbh the best thing from gamescom was meeting other fans and the devs

[untold cypress]

that's just absolutely dope

going from online to in person meeting up with ppl just as excited about the game

[junior latch]

i actually got to speedrun with alex and calle

(Seperately)

[untold cypress]

and yea the devs, im kinda driven to apply to their software engineering related teams but im not exactly willing to move haha

[junior latch]

and we beat their gamescom E tier

[untold cypress]

holy crap

[junior latch]

talking to newbies and experienced players alike was so fun

[untold cypress]

thats sick

[junior latch]

also everyone i talked to in the dev team made it obvious that they rly enjoyed working on gtfo

[untold cypress]

yes most of the original founding team for 10cc were already in the industry but i think its just sick that they started their own thing and gtfo was the first trial of that

den of wolves looks super interesting as well

[analog flicker]

I can't wait to experience Fomo and 10cc game balancing

[junior latch]

Just go to alt r6

alt r6 balance was so much better (with its own issues) than r8

[untold cypress]

the balance changes were so strong they made original r6c1 possible to solo with bots 💀

[junior latch]

What?

r6c1 barely changed

And you can solo that level without bots quite „easily“

[untold cypress]

the scan at the end used to take ages and now you can breeze through it

tbh

i didnt really have a take i just noticed how much more different it was

[junior latch]

the scan is the exact same length

[untold cypress]

bruh

[junior latch]

the only changes are zone layouts

[untold cypress]

i might be tripping

[junior latch]

yes

[untold cypress]

could have just gotten better at game since then

or it really did change

(nah jk)

[junior latch]

the biggest change for the level difficulty wise is that enemies take ~5 seconds longer to get into the tscan room per wave

that should tell ya enough

[rose nova]

it changed a lot on rooms but not rlly on anything that makes a big difference
which just makes me wonder why

it gives me a very different feel from when i see the original version

[daring ginkgo]

Is there any significant difference between og and alt rundowns?

[earnest forge]

Nothing major.

[junior latch]

yes
no

[hidden flame]

they play very differently

but the game is still gtfo, the game mechanics haven't really changed

[junior latch]

like, guns are extremely different
no stamina until OG R6
mines were shit until OG R5
burst sentry was until OG R6

some levels were inherently harder/easier (not by much usually)
visual/atmosphere was darker (better in some old rundowns for sure)
lot more jank

OG R1-R3 didnt have precision multis

[earnest forge]

The fact that the weapons you had access to changed between each Rundown, instead of having access to all of them

(and tools)

[daring ginkgo]

Wow, even this? I thought new stuff was just added to all weapons pool

Not that each rundown had particular weapons available

[junior latch]

it was pretty interesting design wise

R5 for example didnt have the strong boss killing weapons R4 and R6 had

[daring ginkgo]

Sound interesting, yeah

[junior latch]

same for R7 actually before ALT R3

[daring ginkgo]

Wasn't it kinda boring to play same few lvls over and over again? Or players just cleared available rundown and w8ted for next one?

[hidden flame]

same as current version, plenty of people clear and then stop playing

others replay missions

[junior latch]

yup

[latent palm]

IS THAT @topaz lichen

IN PUBS!?!?!

[topaz lichen]

im testing replay mod

relax

[lost lynx]

we will be watching

[latent palm]

i cant relax

i was fighting a Diablos

[topaz lichen]

how scary

[sharp owl]

bro i just got funny glitch

all sleeping enemies in r5c2 always have no heads and awake all the time

so funny

[indigo jolt]

That's not a glitch I have ever heard of

[daring ginkgo]

this fcking bots i swear

i got downed, all bots just refuse to revive me

and this was pretty ok attempt at r2d2

i tried to kick them and add again, no results

[junior latch]

pretty rare bug but ye it sucks

solo and bots just isnt intended sadly

but that bug just is ass

[daring ginkgo]

why those bugs + bots refuse to stay in scan still exist in 3,5 year old game ffs

[lost lynx]

you can get better bots in the LFG chats

[junior latch]

well the bots not reviving you bug probably isnt easy to be replicated at all

and the not entering scan one is similar?

also bots have only existed since 2021 dec

[sharp owl]

you must have been placing sentries close to scan

[daring ginkgo]

no no, i removed all turrets,before i got downed

it wasnt scan zone, i just defended against wave

and on last 10 sec of wave i got downed and bots just ignored me

[daring ginkgo]

i think i got this bug only 2 times total, first one was when my own turret downed me, i thought bots ignored me, cause of turret line of sight

[pastel dagger]

performance was good until og r6

[storm quartz]

OG R5D1 was the first time I've ever had mass frame loss

[daring ginkgo]

lmao, game trolling me, on next attempt bots refuse to stay in scan after few waves

[mellow hedge]

why dont you pub?

[daring ginkgo]

yeah,i will

[modern coral]

We didn't realize how easy we had it before R7D1.

[storm quartz]

especially pre nerf

Firework slideshow goes hard

[wraith marsh]

gardens was a ------------- GREAT! addition to gtfo

[mellow hedge]

they shouldve just made the grass and shit just pngs like they did in old mmos

[wicked solstice]

it’s a shame we didn’t even have fog turbines in the R7 gardens levels to show off the plant’s wind physics

[mellow hedge]

gardens aand fog would melt ur pc

[wicked solstice]

I mean

RD-C2 was fine

wait

it was ok

[mellow hedge]

LOL

had to backtrackj

[wicked solstice]

i mean, it wasn’t worse than E2

Marginally better in fact

[mellow hedge]

borgor

[wicked solstice]

hamborgor

[vernal nebula]

R7D1 lmao

[lost lynx]

@true pilot

15 FPS gaming

[pastel dagger]

Zero frame loss og r5

Already had dx before that

[ocean hinge]

slt des fr dans le coin?

[ocean hinge]

tt les francais dorment ^^

[lost lynx]

#hc-europe message

If You need french people

[ocean hinge]

jy suis déja merci mais pas grand monde ce soir

[latent palm]

Plant getting sucked in

Proceeds to clog up the fog turbine

[quick marten]

Hmm

[earnest forge]

Sorry about that, better luck next time :)

[ocean hinge]

en espérant 😉

[alpine scaffold]

going full blind into r5c3 is a terrifying experience

[dire vortex]

where do i input lobby codes

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbycodes! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[lost lynx]

copy them and go to the game

a red button should appear

[lapis zinc]

whomp whomp!

[rose nova]

[autumn sparrow]

who is OVERUSEDBUTTPLUG

[rose nova]

idk

should be in ur vc

[hidden flame]

if it was a random in your matchmaking lobby, no-one knows

also lol the pronouns section of your bio, someone is pissed off

[lost lynx]

imagine

[rose nova]

the john lennon documentary

[lost lynx]

who

[rose nova]

imagine

[lost lynx]

who

:)

[rose nova]

these nuts

[hidden flame]

guy is so rich he has his own airport, imagine that

[rose nova]

C:

[lost lynx]

when

[hidden flame]

well, you can imagine them whenever you'd like, i think that is the point!

[lost lynx]

:0

i can imagine these nuts

crazy

[pulsar glade]

Hello all - sorry if this is the incorrect method to ask a question, but I'm new to public discords. Please let me know if there's a better method/route to follow. I recently created a song based on the game that I would like to share with the community. This wouldn't be for self promotion as I don't have a channel and am not planning on monetizing anything related to it (just created for fun) What would be the best place to post this? And/or is that allowed to be posted?