gtfo-chat

[hidden flame]

oh i was watching one side

it is just pubs being pubs

[blissful dome]

Amazing

As usual

Then what was the issue lmao

[mellow hedge]

is it on surge and do you have 2 sentries?

[blissful dome]

One person should be able to deal with 6 smalls lmao

[mellow hedge]

why is 1 out?

[blissful dome]

Absolute goobers

I

[mellow hedge]

no like why was the sentry used before surge?

[hidden flame]

2 sentries on every scan

it's pubs

[mellow hedge]

damn

[blissful dome]

Rip

[hidden flame]

• also nobody loots effectively

2 tanks up right now

[mellow hedge]

bruh

[blissful dome]

Gaddamn

[mellow hedge]

HOW?

[hidden flame]

idk how 3 people die to 1 tank in fog then die again

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[hidden flame]

and then i have to kite around a bunch and 2nd tank spawns

pubs

[blissful dome]

Goat is this worth your sanity

[hidden flame]

not really

[blissful dome]

</3

[hidden flame]

i need to get dinner as well before it starts thunderstorming

[blissful dome]

How did you get in that situation anyways lmao

[mellow hedge]

hmm

[blissful dome]

Pub behavior

[hidden flame]

like r4e1 being an RNG mission?

[shut vapor]

Hella rng 😔

[blissful dome]

Lmao

I

What

[analog flicker]

Goddammit. I hate when R4E1 RNG hits and spawns Pmoms instead of Tanks in the Error

[blissful dome]

I hate it when r4e1 RNG spawns an immortal

This you?

Amazing self portrait

You're funny

[mellow hedge]

RAAAAHHHHHHHHH I CANT PLAY R4E1 UNLESS I GET AN A CELL RAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[stable copper]

selling popcorn

[blissful dome]

Can't play r4e1 unless everything spawns in the closest possible room ongong

[pallid anvil]

How

[hidden flame]

it isn't lol

[blissful dome]

Pub goober logic

"oh no the tank spawned"

Must be rng

[pallid anvil]

No 0 cycle tank

Unlucky

[blissful dome]

Hmmmm

I wouldn't want to lmao

...

[mellow hedge]

tried that :(

[blissful dome]

Just play better smh

[pine root]

Strikers stole my lunch money today

[blissful dome]

</3

[mellow hedge]

i would expect that from a shooter

[pine root]

I was happily getting my fog repellers for r2e1 and 7 strikers came up form the ground and robbed me

[blissful dome]

Shooter discrimination

[lost lynx]

i need people for 8 player runs

😔

[blissful dome]

Nuhuh

7 bots

Go

[lost lynx]

7 bots

fun

does it work with better bots?

[blissful dome]

Good question

:3

[lost lynx]

i want you to be my better bot

uwu

[blissful dome]

Pable no >:c

[lost lynx]

:(

[blissful dome]

:C

[stable copper]

pun intended ?

[lost lynx]

lol

North is an actual bot

[blissful dome]

Hmmm

[lost lynx]

(North is hackett's original name)

yup

[blissful dome]

Don't ask pable to do join that lmao

Pable deserves better

[lost lynx]

fuck NO

[blissful dome]

Ikr

[lost lynx]

everything except that

[mellow hedge]

moms up

[lost lynx]

im a pussy

[mellow hedge]

get to the cheese spot

[lost lynx]

also im trying some mods

lol

[blissful dome]

How do you wake mom 🙏

[lost lynx]

the 8p mod SHOULD work with the randomizer mod

[hidden flame]

nobody ever listens to goat, so sad

[blissful dome]

You ok?

[hidden flame]

quite good actually, now i can go get dinner

[blissful dome]

:D

LMAO

ok

[lost lynx]

to solo the level

smh

[mellow hedge]

duo r4e1 with me

[hidden flame]

no, duo with me

Simon is bad player

[mellow hedge]

i will but i code hunt

i aint defending on that ping

was responding to goat

[hidden flame]

it is tradition that host holds reactor

[mellow hedge]

whos that?

[hidden flame]

oh well, not the first time I've told a pub that they have to wait for the enemies before crossing mom zone

[blissful dome]

absolute aussie goober

[blissful dome]

ong

[mellow hedge]

fuck you im getting kenny

we will duo

[blissful dome]

have you played the level?

why didnt you say anything then?

goober

[hidden flame]

you've literally played and cheated clears of og r4e1

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[hidden flame]

don't play dumb

[blissful dome]

cheated?????

what the fuck

why do you expect goat to do everything

[hidden flame]

I said to wait for the enemies before crossing

what else do you want me to do?

[blissful dome]

solo carry 🙏

[hidden flame]

ran into a mom where?

also there was a hybrid and striker alive, running to reactor, which is why i said to wait

maybe this r4e1 speedrunner knows what they're doing

[blissful dome]

nah

couldnt be

i trust the pub more

[robust dawn]

goodly bad

[blissful dome]

is alt r4e1 really so different you dont remember theres a mom zone lmao

[robust dawn]

dam what was that

[mellow hedge]

aint no way

[spare pike]

Mom

[blissful dome]

💀

pub goober

i dont know if its a good argument to say that people can tell you fucked up without seeing it themselves

[mellow hedge]

So you cheated OG r4e1 clears?

[blissful dome]

its like

basic deduction

right

[mellow hedge]

hmm

its always the dogshit players

[blissful dome]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[sharp owl]

what poppin chat

[hidden flame]

simon gaming

[blissful dome]

pub goober isnt getting carried hard enough by goat

[mellow hedge]

omg my idol

[blissful dome]

look who it is

[hidden flame]

multiple tanks after surge in r4e1

[blissful dome]

🙏

[hidden flame]

infection cap everywhere, tanking inf to get a res when we agreed to get turbine

the normal stuff

[blissful dome]

ah yes

[sharp owl]

who is simon

[mellow hedge]

huge

[blissful dome]

@sharp owl

[sharp owl]

simon says

[blissful dome]

says what

[blissful dome]

amazing

[sharp owl]

fr

[mellow hedge]

keep it family friendly

[blissful dome]

damn

[mellow hedge]

saw that

[spare pike]

Epic

[mellow hedge]

why the fuck have you been in r8b2 for 12 hours

[blissful dome]

WHAT

WHo

[mellow hedge]

the one and only mrclassy gass

[blissful dome]

...

why not

🙏

[spare pike]

?

Have not

[blissful dome]

yea also where is that number from

[spare pike]

Number?

I don’t see it

[daring ginkgo]

guys, someone played Ready or Not? Is it good game?

[lost lynx]

Yes

Really fun

But it can be disturbing at times

If You are sensitive at some topics

[daring ginkgo]

nah

[robust dawn]

this is the gtfo discord

[little ridge]

Ever played SWAT 4 stechkov syndacate?

[daring ginkgo]

no

[little ridge]

then perhaps you're gonna like it

[lost lynx]

Well

Ready or Not straight up doesnt tell You

Its all in the details

[little ridge]

I mean

It's GTFO's discord

[lost lynx]

Ok
Yeah we are all insane already

[little ridge]

it's a game about going to the underground filled with monstrosities that vaguely look like human

[lost lynx]

Thats a totally different topic but i understand your point

[daring ginkgo]

Mother straight up give birth in middle of the fight and we kill her childrens

[latent palm]

hallo sleepo

[daring ginkgo]

😂

w8, i thought he woke up real mom, like screaming on full room😂

[latent palm]

dang

[south fog]

what's his name

[latent palm]

if only i had /gamemode creative

[robust dawn]

his name was Hakumen4EVA

[latent palm]

im jap?

dang that gotta suck

[robust dawn]

yea bro look at ur name

[mystic blade]

yeah next time

[topaz lichen]

My fix does not give hel auto sentry back damage, I assume devs copy n pasted penetration from guns OR invoked the same method, which could explain it randomly now being able to do back damage.
BulletWeapon.BulletHit(SentryGunInstance_Firing_Bullets.s_weaponRayData, doDamage, allowDirectionalBonus: false); // My code has directionalbonus set to false, no back damage

• who knows tho, couldve been intentional to that sentry more juice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[latent palm]

i yearn for a day i get to play R7D2 with u again

[topaz lichen]

😳

[latent palm]

i miss the times where i got most giant/tank kills

and most time sleeping on the gen zone

[pine root]

Why did you

Make the sentry do back damage

[shut vapor]

real?

How shameful

[latent palm]

shit he found out my 4am sessions

[topaz lichen]

I didnt tho 🥹
👉 👈

[shut vapor]

I can't believe anyone would use mods in pubs

[pine root]

You caused this set of events

You are the butterfly

[topaz lichen]

by indirect cause and butterfly effect I blame the meteor that took out the dinosaurs 🤓

[pine root]

Hmmmmmmmm

[shut vapor]

acceptable

[pine root]

Fair point

[shut vapor]

🤮

[latent palm]

i just love muserhi for the stick man replays

[pine root]

Replay mod is very useful in finding stupid bugs

[pine root]

Like enemies permanently stuck

[shut vapor]

replaymod lets you see where the wall strikers were 😔

[pine root]

^

[topaz lichen]

I love using a curated version to blame my peers for waking up enemies when it was me all along

[shut vapor]

Only 10 more hours of the grind 😔

[junior latch]

hows it lookin?

[shut vapor]

2 hours off 98

[pine root]

How you seen the scout bug on r7e1

[latent palm]

me when i tryna find that one person whove been stealing my cfoam nades

[topaz lichen]

not sure which scout bug since there are many lol

[pine root]

Scout alerting on nothing

Scout mining as we coined it

[lost lynx]

If only the mod worked for me

Fuc

[topaz lichen]

oh ye ive seen it => not looked into the cause tho

[shut vapor]

After I hit 98 im gonna do some fletching and then some quests so I'll get 99 Mining by probably 9pm BST tomorrow

[pine root]

We know the cause???

[topaz lichen]

i forgot it lol - mb xD

[pine root]

Not the exact line of code

But it is when you close a door the scout saves your position

right by the door

And only updates it if you are within 2 rooms

[topaz lichen]

idk why it wouldnt be working for you, but some reason people keep opening the viewer whilst its still zipped 💀

[lost lynx]

💀

Yes

I can unzip something else too

Yes

[topaz lichen]

icic

[pine root]

It doesn’t matter but I feel like this one would be an easy ish fix

Tbh it only effects one level and new players tho

[topaz lichen]

@pine root when u say scout saves the player position, do you know if its the scout walking into the players pos (wake up from collision) or from the raycast ?

[pine root]

raycast

[topaz lichen]

I feel like it shouldnt be from raycast since ur hitbox shouldnt be there

[pine root]

Has to be tentacle

[topaz lichen]

huh

[pine root]

wild right?

[latent palm]

when the modder forgor

[pine root]

This calculation is also done on each client individually

As well

[latent palm]

ongod its a bad day

[topaz lichen]

yeah what the hell is the ray cast touching xD -> ill look into it, cause ur hitbox shouldnt be there anyway

[pine root]

so I can have the scout loaded as host and someone can bug themselves

and watch the scout bug trigger

all while it is still in active enemy detection

Very wild we almost lost the r7e1 run in the marathon because of it

[pine root]

You can set up the bug in cconsole

By turning off enemy detection

It willl also create a ghost of you

For some reason

[topaz lichen]

gotcha

Im looking at it now, and I have some suspiciouns as to the cause

[latent palm]

SUS in coding

pls tell me u can add

like sfx to the stick mens

i really wana add the goofy ahhh running sfxs

[hearty cove]

r2 e1 help me

[latent palm]

theres this thing called the "lfg"

its really helpful

[lost lynx]

replay mod worked

holy shit

[latent palm]

im tired boss

[shut vapor]

help me :D

[lost lynx]

idk

[latent palm]

unstable and toxic working enviroment

[lost lynx]

but it worked now

[latent palm]

i died'ed

[shut vapor]

I'm very not toxic

[latent palm]

i know

[shut vapor]

definitely

[latent palm]

im not pointing at u

[shut vapor]

you are a cat

[latent palm]

man i wish i can hit hel rifle like i used to

[shut vapor]

washed?

[latent palm]

i washed up big time now

[latent palm]

i can now only hit 2 per shot

failure to soceity

[shut vapor]

damn we really did play back in the day

if you rember that

[latent palm]

i played with u once with brandonious

only once

[shut vapor]

am I famous? :D

[latent palm]

idk man u tell me

[shut vapor]

😔

[hearty cove]

go r2 e1?

[latent palm]

why everyone so mean to me

[latent palm]

theres this thing called the "lfg" x2

[shut vapor]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[shut vapor]

Nice server invite bozo

[hearty cove]

не понимаю

[latent palm]

AND YOU SAID U AINT TOXIC

WOW

[shut vapor]

I'm not

I'm just saying it was a server invite :D

[latent palm]

nah

thats not what i saw

[shut vapor]

How would you remember that

[shut vapor]

Where's my gold Macaw

:(

[topaz lichen]

just to clarify does the bug only happen when ALL players are 3 rooms away, or just if 1 person is

[shut vapor]

Murlocs

[blissful dome]

thats wild

[pine root]

So it only happens if both the scout is able to feel

And someone has bugged themselves

Closed a door with the scout in the room

I think tru has a video on it

[latent palm]

Softlocks

[shut vapor]

Less than 1 hour before I can change task :D

[latent palm]

Nuh uh u gotta end task on task manager

[shut vapor]

I'm not ending the task

but the task itself is changing

[latent palm]

Modify data in registry editor

[shut vapor]

For what purpose

[latent palm]

Idk

Messing with the resolution scales

[verbal vine]

what is the hardest rundown

[blissful dome]

2nd half of r8?

uhmmm

it goes like

R1 < R3 < R2/R6 < R7 < R4 < R5 < R8

the 1st half of r8 should be cheese though

oh wait thats a spoiler isnt it

[verbal vine]

interesting lol youd think it be more linear

[blissful dome]

youre funny

hardest levels would be

R8E2 and R4E1

i think

unless im missing something

[verbal vine]

ty for the info 😄

[wicked solstice]

Training obviously

[verbal vine]

by far the hardest

[blissful dome]

isnt it tutorial

[lost lynx]

R9

[blissful dome]

^^

[verbal vine]

what is that supposed to be DoW

[wicked solstice]

Training

[verbal vine]

ah

[blissful dome]

wouldnt DoW be R0

technically

[wicked solstice]

Nah, it’s modded obviously

i want the modding scene to do that

[blissful dome]

are you sure?

eva said it was tutorial

[wicked solstice]

Collaboration on a “Rundown 9”

[blissful dome]

i blame eva

[wicked solstice]

well i blame eva

Oh lol

[blissful dome]

#gtfo-chat message

i blame eva

[wicked solstice]

wait i swear it read training

[blissful dome]

I BLAME EVA

I WAS MISINFORMED

[lost lynx]

No

You

[fleet kettle]

It's Tutorial

[rose nova]

its tutorial

[fleet kettle]

Bruh

[rose nova]

smh

[fleet kettle]

Dak

[blissful dome]

DAK.

[rose nova]

non gamerrs

[blissful dome]

DAK YOU MISINFORMED ME

DAK YOU MUST DIE

[wicked solstice]

Huh

The button says training

Lol

[fleet kettle]

#gtfo-media message

[blissful dome]

MOTHER FU-

DAK

how could you

[rose nova]

dak trying to not say anything modded challenge

[wicked solstice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blissful dome]

dak turn off mods

smh

[rose nova]

:[

[blissful dome]

</3

[lost lynx]

I'm with Dak in this one

[wicked solstice]

not me, gaslighting myself with the ALT R4 picture

lol

[lost lynx]

[wicked solstice]

I had no idea they changed it

Again

[lost lynx]

@blissful dome

R8e2

[blissful dome]

what

[rose nova]

s m h

[blissful dome]

i cant play rn if thats what youre asking

[wicked solstice]

EVAL -> Training -> Tutorial

wonderful

[lost lynx]

:(

[blissful dome]

we love gtfo devs

[stone marten]

R5C2 with bots. Got to 5/6 on reactor but still dono how to deal with tanks alone/bots

[rose nova]

people r just too dumb to know its a tutorial

[blissful dome]

stanning the gtfo devs rn

[blissful dome]

scatter

[rose nova]

they had to keep changing it cause people skip it lol

[wicked solstice]

at least EVAL gave modders the cool feature to slide a level above a tier

[fleet kettle]

long story short you don't. Just pray to gods

[stone marten]

But i need my precision rifle

[blissful dome]

no

[rose nova]

at least eval mimimi
[seventy of every hundred players completely skipping it]

[blissful dome]

im pretty sure mine says training though

[fleet kettle]

why tho, you give waveclear to bots and deal with bosses urself.

[rose nova]

maybe if u click on it idk

[stone marten]

Ya thats a good point. Ive just gotten pretty decent with that gun and there are some really good choke points on that level

[fleet kettle]

bruh bahroo emote

[blissful dome]

hmmmmmm

[wicked solstice]

Skill issue

[fleet kettle]

Said the gaslighter

[wicked solstice]

What gaslighting?

[blissful dome]

damn

</3

[wicked solstice]

[blissful dome]

dak surrender now

or we will fire

[wicked solstice]

no

i will die on this hill

[fleet kettle]

tbf, you said so urself that you gaslight urself.

[blissful dome]

HIKL

[fleet kettle]

So still gaslighter

[rose nova]

die on these nuts

[blissful dome]

slendi no

:C

[rose nova]

C:

[blissful dome]

nuhuh

:C

[rose nova]

yeh hes :3

[lost lynx]

I heard sex

@rose nova what You doing right now

[blissful dome]

hes

[blissful dome]

YO

[lost lynx]

Hey ifo

[rose nova]

i am sleepy not foing anything ill probs join some pub

[lost lynx]

I see i see

Hello i am sleepy not foing anything ill probs join some pub

Im Pablex

Nice to meet you

[rose nova]

:]

i hate u

[blissful dome]

:C

no toxicity

smh

[pure dew]

No R2

[blissful dome]

same thing

[spare pike]

🎣

[latent palm]

Y so sus

[brisk basin]

is it just me, or were the level layouts a little more coherent in the OG rundowns?

not that i mind, some rooms are just a bit spaghettified with stairs to nowhere, strange elevations, etc

[rose nova]

i meaan depends on the level
i think some levels got better rooms others not so much

[brisk basin]

yeah
my go to comparison is r4a1 cytosis. the bulkhead room particularly

[rose nova]

ah yeh i think in that room the double alarm was funnier

oh bulkeah room

ksmdkm

aah idk i guess

it is a lil more corridor like but i kinda like it

[brisk basin]

oh yeah double alarm was fun too

[rose nova]

but yeaah i meaan on sec yes but on just main

not so shures

i dont think both r rlly thaat different

[analog flicker]

To my recollection. Alts aren't as spliced together as much as OG

Then again there's only so much you can do with repeat tilesets over and over again

[modern coral]

It's partly due to how the procedural generation works, and probably bias if you remember the original layouts, but also not unlikely that they didn't spend as much time fine-tuning these layouts compared to when they first made the levels.

[latent palm]

solace u are off ur coffee

the rundowns are much different from OGs

so that GTFO nowadays are different than OGs

why would 10C remake them in the same way

wink wink

[analog flicker]

Who said I drink coffee.

[latent palm]

me

i didnt want u to be off meds

so its the most friendly thing i could take

[spare pike]

take a stim

[quick marten]

um need a help

how do i kill the 4 infront of me in #gtfo-media

[earnest forge]

First one you can kill without waking the others

it will wake the closest one, which has your back to you, so just quickly one-tap its head from behind when it wakes up

[quick marten]

hmm ok

;-;

i kill first 2 woke up

had 9 shooters after me

[junior latch]

always try to get into position for a multi kill

On shooters that is usually just being rdy to do a tap hit to the back of their head

[quick marten]

but i couldnt kill 2 which woke up right?

[junior latch]

you can do triple kills very reliably

on shooters quadruple kills work well too (but are tougher)

[wary chasm]

hello i dmed you a link to a video by some guy called darkeva explaining how stealth and enemy detection mechanics work

[earnest forge]

Just practice ; this is a good level for it

[junior latch]

i think an issue is the angle of the picture + your fov

[quick marten]

i use 103 fov

[quick marten]

yea bro i rewatched his vid 3 times at least i just cant seem to apply em

[wary chasm]

sadge, feel free to keep on asking questions and we'll try to clear them up for you

[quick marten]

i changed to 90 fov

hope that better ig?

should i run a knife instead since it can charge faster?

[wary chasm]

imo its better to get used to hammer now

[quick marten]

alr

[wary chasm]

it will be much more beneficial to you in later levels

[quick marten]

hammer is half charge to head = kill, one tap to occi = kill right?

does that apply only to shooter and strikers?

[wary chasm]

roughly 60% to the front head for shooters iirc

and yes you can one tap them in the occi

[junior latch]

Only shooters for the tap

[quick marten]

oh

[wary chasm]

but i would still recommend charging slightly just in case

if you have the time to anyway

[junior latch]

shooters = more hp but head takes a lot more dmg

Strikers = less hp but head takes less insane extra dmg

Its all practice

and you shouldnt need to change your fov

That point was mostly indicating that the distance might be hard to judge for people playing at lower fov

I play at 100 myself

[quick marten]

oh

[wary chasm]

feel free to play on what fov you prefer

[quick marten]

alr

[fleet kettle]

That reminds me of this #gtfo-chat message lol

[wary chasm]

Tjoma

the 5m incident

[unreal crystal]

tjoma balls

no simon

[latent palm]

Sado

[wary chasm]

need a kiss or what

[latent palm]

youre giving it?

that would be lovely

[junior latch]

I never even saw that lol

[blissful dome]

goobers in gtfo chat

[latent palm]

Im still waiting for that kiss

[wary chasm]

[latent palm]

Ur the best sado

[copper flare]

Good mornin chat

[near stag]

Wake Up Chat. Wake Up, and smell the ashes

[robust dawn]

Wake the fuck up prisoner, we have a sleeper to burn.

[jagged citrus]

hey, you. you're finally awake. i need your help with this giant.

[latent palm]

WHO?

[mellow hedge]

im eating cheerios

[latent palm]

Eww

[mellow hedge]

fuck outta here

[latent palm]

yeah like im gonna stay after you dunk a whole bag

[lofty grotto]

Hey you. You’re finally awake. I need you to “insert whatever you want”

[jagged citrus]

we've been trying to reach you regarding your cars extended warranty

[pastel dagger]

ffuck dont remind me

my cars been out of rego for awhile now

[little ridge]

"cars", you own more than 1?

Gratz

[pastel dagger]

car's

[little ridge]

ah

[pastel dagger]

but hey i got driving licence number 2 just a few hours ago

where wheel is in the wrong place

by reflex i tried to change gear with my left hand

only to find a door

[little ridge]

heh

I always wonder what compelled Brits and Japanese to do it the other way around

[blissful dome]

Hmmmm

[pastel dagger]

u mean the proper way around?

[little ridge]

Proper way is steering wheel on the left side of the car

[pastel dagger]

no

[little ridge]

yes

[blissful dome]

Truly the argument of the century

[pastel dagger]

see i grew up in countries where that was the proper way

but i moved to australia and first time learning drive was there

wheel on the right is peak

[little ridge]

I can only see that being better for lefties

[jagged citrus]

what does this even mean

[pastel dagger]

bonus points if you are a jdm fan

[jagged citrus]

we should put the wheel in the middle

[little ridge]

My logic is that moving the wheel is easier than moving the gear

[jagged citrus]

average it out to please both parties

[pastel dagger]

my logic is the position of the pedals

[blissful dome]

I think you found the single worst solution

Good job

[pastel dagger]

for example on countryman john cooper works they are way too close to the gearbox

[little ridge]

?

[jagged citrus]

happy to help ❤️

[pastel dagger]

any car in australia there is plenty of space

[jagged citrus]

there are cars that do that

im pretty sure

[blissful dome]

<3

[jagged citrus]

ive seen em

[pastel dagger]

its comfortable

[quick marten]

Is there any way to gauge close range approx aggro?

[jagged citrus]

yeah

[quick marten]

Or do u just play and get the feel

[blissful dome]

It's pretty short

[jagged citrus]

some mclarens have central steering wheels

they just don't have a passenger seat

[blissful dome]

No problem thank me later

[jagged citrus]

therefore, i would like to propose an alternate solution

[quick marten]

Huh

[jagged citrus]

two steering wheels, one on the left and one on the right

may the best driver win.

[little ridge]

well

[pastel dagger]

just ride motorcycle honestly

[quick marten]

Def not lewis

[little ridge]

If you can get between, it ain't gonna alert

[jagged citrus]

you mean hard wakeup? like if you kill one guy the other will wake up regardless?

[quick marten]

Yes

[little ridge]

OR if the thingies touch on the bioscanner

[jagged citrus]

~1 meter

is what the wiki says

make of that what you will

[quick marten]

I wont be using bio so yea

[blissful dome]

It is VERY short

[jagged citrus]

tbh

if you're not sure

[pastel dagger]

very short rifle

[jagged citrus]

just start charging a second hit regardless

[quick marten]

Isn't it 3m?

[jagged citrus]

if the other guy wakes up, whack him

[blissful dome]

:(

[jagged citrus]

if he doesnt, cancel

[quick marten]

Yea i would just do that in case

[jagged citrus]

cuz you can duo enemies very easily if you charge preemptively

[pastel dagger]

answered a bit above

[blissful dome]

Its good cause you might lra them anyways

:D

[jagged citrus]

or bring a knife and just kille everything in sight

[quick marten]

Is it half charge hammer on shooter head = kill?

[little ridge]

yeah I just dont see it compared to having the gear on the dominant side

[jagged citrus]

less

[little ridge]

I guess for lefties it must be a tad harder

[pastel dagger]

oh i dont care about that tbh

[jagged citrus]

if you hit them in the back of the head you dont have to charge at all

[quick marten]

How about frot

Fromt

[little ridge]

But I know some lefties who drive good anyway

[quick marten]

Front

[jagged citrus]

front?

uhhh

not sure

[quick marten]

YEye

[jagged citrus]

not a lot

[blissful dome]

Uncharged doesn't kill to occu I'm pretty sure

[jagged citrus]

probably like 20% charge

[quick marten]

Like 60%?

[jagged citrus]

it does on shooters

[quick marten]

Oh

[pastel dagger]

the bigger problem when u drive on a different wheel is you turn on windshield instead of indicator

[blissful dome]

I'm pretty sure it doesnt

[pastel dagger]

thats the first thing u WILL do

[jagged citrus]

3 dmg, 10x multiplier, shooters have thirty health

[little ridge]

It does

[quick marten]

U can one tap occi shooters

[jagged citrus]

i have done it myself many times

[quick marten]

With hammer ofc

[jagged citrus]

or bat

[quick marten]

Im not sure about striker

[little ridge]

no

[jagged citrus]

idk you need to deal 6 damage if you hit em in the face, can't be that much charge

half charge is presumably 10 damage

[little ridge]

striker needs a bit of charge even with perfect occiput

[jagged citrus]

so somewhere between those two

striker you can't

at base you'll leave em on 2 hp

[quick marten]

How much charge for head for striker

Infront

[jagged citrus]

like 30%?

[little ridge]

front I think something like that yeah

[blissful dome]

Yea

[quick marten]

Damn?? 30?

[jagged citrus]

call it 40 for safety?

[quick marten]

Alr

[jagged citrus]

i mean they take 3x damage to the face

so you need to do like 6.5 damage to kill

[little ridge]

I usually charge to around 50 and always get the kill

[quick marten]

Idk the exact dmg

[jagged citrus]

yeah that works too

[little ridge]

it's like milliseconds anyway

[jagged citrus]

i usually full charge out of habit unless im in a hurry

[blissful dome]

Just 50 charge anyways

You should have time

[jagged citrus]

well yeah but if i full charge i dont have to hit em in the head

[quick marten]

Does shooter have more hp than striker

[junior latch]

theres cases where it still will but it would be tight

[blissful dome]

Yes

[jagged citrus]

just charge a second hit for safety

[junior latch]

Its more

[blissful dome]

But also more pres dmg

[jagged citrus]

is it?

i thought the wiki said 1 meter

[junior latch]

Charge dmg is not linear. Its cubic iirc

[quick marten]

Head on shooter is 5x right?

[jagged citrus]

bruh

why

[jagged citrus]

ye

[quick marten]

How much dmg is half charge

[jagged citrus]

because fuck you i guess why make it intuitive

[little ridge]

No idea if it's cubic but I know it ain't linear at all

[jagged citrus]

that would have been nice to know at some point during my 540 hours of playtime

anger

[blissful dome]

Try doing spear, the pres damage is also cubic

[little ridge]

meh why? ultimately game has so few type of enemies

You might aswell register stuff as a 0 or 1

[jagged citrus]

i mean again i usually full charge anywhere so who cares

[little ridge]

It's how I do it, partially out of laziness

[jagged citrus]

id believe it but personally i cannot use the spear

[quick marten]

Sometimes theres no time for full charge tho

[jagged citrus]

lack of sprint speed completely messes with my muscle memory

[blissful dome]

Get that exact giant limb break

[junior latch]

The reason is that it makes full charge better over spam hits

[jagged citrus]

in that case half charge bonk em in the head or back

[quick marten]

Wontt giant hit u b4 full charge?

[junior latch]

Linear will have a spot for dps better than full charge

[little ridge]

No if you're fast enough

[jagged citrus]

spear outranges giants, and if you time your swing properly you can whack giants with sledge before they clock you

[blissful dome]

It's like 60 for the back limb

[blissful dome]

Boring

[junior latch]

to reliably stealth you cant full charge

[jagged citrus]

60 for occiput, 40 for back i think

[quick marten]

How about hand

[jagged citrus]

hand is arm

[blissful dome]

Hand is a limb yes

[quick marten]

Does it only matter where u hit from?

Like front of arm or back

[blissful dome]

The back preferably

[jagged citrus]

all enemies that have a back take double damage from behind

[blissful dome]

^

[jagged citrus]

and they take some amount of extra damage from the face

[blissful dome]

It's position based not hitbox

[jagged citrus]

if you hit them in the back of the head it stacks those multipliers

[quick marten]

So if i hit back arm = more dmg

[jagged citrus]

eg strikers giants, 1.5x to the face, 2x to the back, 3x to the occiput

[jagged citrus]

yes

[blissful dome]

Also animations don't change the direction of an enemy till they finish

[jagged citrus]

back in general is more damage

[blissful dome]

So

[jagged citrus]

limbs are better to hit for staggers

[junior latch]

No you need to hit FROM behind

[blissful dome]

^

[jagged citrus]

i wanna stab scouts that are bent over :(

[blissful dome]

Not hitbox based

Smh

[little ridge]

ALSO back is based on angle so it ain't a 0 or 1 thing

[junior latch]

I think some people here should watch beginner guides

[jagged citrus]

lmao

[quick marten]

The giant face me b4 i can get behind ;-;

[little ridge]

There's a formula on the wiki with theta and all the graphs

[jagged citrus]

might you have some of those beginner guides?

[jagged citrus]

if they're already awake just go for limb breaks

[blissful dome]

They don't change direction till the animation finishes

[quick marten]

I do but i just need to clear up some thoughts i have in my head

[junior latch]

Circle with them turning

If you rly wanna solo stealth then dont full charge

[blissful dome]

Just bonk them they magically don't turn around

[jagged citrus]

ok

[junior latch]

Tbh i was memeing at the others here who gave out somewhat incorrect stuff (that i nitpicked)

[jagged citrus]

soloing giants with a melee is relatively easy, just go for full charge hits

[quick marten]

;-;

[jagged citrus]

soloing a giant with your melee and having it not scream is a bit more difficult

[quick marten]

I felt targeted

Lmao

[jagged citrus]

nah u good

[junior latch]

Solo kill? Yes
Solo stealth, yea dont full charge lol

[jagged citrus]

take ur time, you'll get the hang of it

[blissful dome]

Full charge is how you get screams

[jagged citrus]

thats a much better way to put it thank you

[quick marten]

If im tryna stealth how much charge should i do

[junior latch]

even if we say a number, its a feeling thing

[jagged citrus]

for giants?

something like 80% charge

[blissful dome]

I'm pretty sure it's like 60+ for the back with sledge

[junior latch]

Practice it

[little ridge]

I feel like you're thinking too much about all of this tbh

[jagged citrus]

if you hit them in the back with like 80% charge its a limb break

[quick marten]

All g I'll get it

[jagged citrus]

yeah probably

[junior latch]

a good practice level is r2b2 @quick marten

[little ridge]

Go back charge as much as you can without giant screaming, hit

[jagged citrus]

its less about numbers and more about muscle memory

[quick marten]

Indeed i am

[jagged citrus]

or r4b1

[quick marten]

I have yet to clear r1b2

[little ridge]

You aren't gonna solo hammer giants all day everyday in a plausible scenario anyway

Even when playing with casuals or bots

[jagged citrus]

lmao you want a hand?

[quick marten]

Last try had be against 9 shooters

[jagged citrus]

oops! all shooters!

[quick marten]

All g, I'll ask u if i need

[jagged citrus]

im not doing anything this afternoon, ping me if u need a hand

[junior latch]

i can count on both hands how many times i had to solo giants in teamplay

in solo however

[quick marten]

Its night here and i have alot of people to entertain;-;

[junior latch]

Tho tbf in solo i often just melee into shoot

[jagged citrus]

if you have two people then giants are piss

not work the risk if you're by yourself

[little ridge]

Me too

[jagged citrus]

espeically since you get all the ammo drops anyway

[little ridge]

I go behind, full charge occi then shoot

[jagged citrus]

unless its a chicken

[little ridge]

unless Scattergun

[jagged citrus]

chickens get whacked

[little ridge]

in which case I just shoot

[junior latch]

Yea then bring it to 1 hp then show dominance

[little ridge]

I even shoot chickens IDGAF I've a Combat shotty

It prints efficiency

[jagged citrus]

but its funny to beat them up

they can't do anything

helpless creatures.

[blissful dome]

It takes so long though

[quick marten]

I can get a good grasp on what weapons i should use too

[little ridge]

🤣 Poor chickens

[blissful dome]

For how useless they are

[jagged citrus]

counterpoint: funny

[blissful dome]

:c

[little ridge]

Technically 2 full charge hammer occi kills it IIRC

Number man can confirm if needed

[junior latch]

Yup

[jagged citrus]

yeah it is

[junior latch]

Its the most based way to solo kill

[jagged citrus]

its a bit finnicky to pull off tho

[blissful dome]

They always phase into the wall

[jagged citrus]

i usually just go for headshots in general, you'll kill them relatively quickly

[quick marten]

If i use a shotgun it would be an intentional kill which ruins stealth and i don't think i would ever use It during alarm doors

[jagged citrus]

sleepers have fuckin wallhacks its not fair

[blissful dome]

Smh

[little ridge]

an intentional kill?

[quick marten]

And like i would have unequal amount of ammo

[jagged citrus]

as opposed to an unintentional kill

[little ridge]

D-do you trick the sleepers into killing themselves?

[junior latch]

Dont overvalue stealth

Its super helpful to know

[jagged citrus]

we've been using guns for so long we haven't even thoguht to try Vicious Mockery\

[junior latch]

you can and should be able to shoot a lot

[robust dawn]

ACCIDENTAL KILl

[little ridge]

You're going to find that starting loud is better than going loud after failing stealth

[jagged citrus]

know when sneak and know when shoot

both are very powerful

melee in this game is some of the best executed fps melee ive seen

[junior latch]

Heck even in my guide i say that shooting is very viable

[quick marten]

I meant like using them to kill on purpose like the giant which i know i prob can't n stealth or when it has some enemies next to it

[quartz cape]

i trust you havent seen much then

[jagged citrus]

you mean just shootign them outright rather than fallbacking to guns after fuckign up melee?

[junior latch]

Until you pick spear

[jagged citrus]

until you pick spear.

[rose nova]

until you pick spear

[little ridge]

You can with bots eh

[jagged citrus]

spear is good as training wheels for new players, and then it goes in the dumpster

[little ridge]

Just keep in mind that bots tend NOT to move if enemy is croaking

[quick marten]

I mean i could fuck up melee and still use em but wouldnt i wanna keep my distance?

[little ridge]

so try to hit the giant when it's silent

[jagged citrus]

i mean

depends on the gun

if you hvae a shotgun, no

well, i suppose that depends on hwo you define distance

but yk what i mean

[little ridge]

Shotgun's more lenient than you think on distance tbh

[topaz lichen]

I feel like most people overestimate how close u need to be to kill with shotgun.

[jagged citrus]

it feels both more lenient and less lenient at the same time

[little ridge]

Scatter you need to get very close to 1tap but with everything else it's not as "bad"

[jagged citrus]

half the time ill kill a shooter from like 8m like "wow that worked?" and then the rest of the time i swear all my pellets connect and they dont even stagger

maybe its a skill issue

[little ridge]

With strikers normal shotty I tend to aim for the upper chest and have more success than trying to headshot (duh obvious but still)

[junior latch]

[jagged citrus]

bullying is against server rules /j

[junior latch]

Honestly i think the beginner guide comment was far worse

[jagged citrus]

lmao yeah probably

[topaz lichen]

just shoot twice

[jagged citrus]

all in good fun ur videos are great

[topaz lichen]

if it's the fact you don't know whether u killed or not, get a qol mod like kill indicator fix

but otherwise if it ain't dead the first time just shoot it again

[jagged citrus]

theres a kill indicator fix?

mod name

[junior latch]

Theres lots of mods

[jagged citrus]

i am sick of not getting the starburst if im not hosting

[little ridge]

There's lots of mods that fix stuff that the devs should have fixed

[jagged citrus]

fr

[topaz lichen]

https://thunderstore.io/c/gtfo/p/randomuserhi/KillIndicatorFix/

[jagged citrus]

why is ping everything not vanilla

[jagged citrus]

i love you

[little ridge]

randomuserhi fixed the biotracker bug for example

[jagged citrus]

lmao which one

[little ridge]

small red dots

[topaz lichen]

tooting my own horn, but I've fixed a lot of bugs 😋

[junior latch]

Makes communication less interesting

[jagged citrus]

mm

yeah i guess thats fair

[junior latch]

it contrives players of an easy „hey there“

i rly like it in gtfo

A ping is cool, but its also easy

[topaz lichen]

I think my only gripe with ping anywhere is the ability to ping enemies

[jagged citrus]

i find it more useful to indicate which direction we have to go without having to find a door to mouse over

or tell people exactly where sentries should go

[jagged citrus]

that is the one thing

its so easy for me to ping a dude in the darkness and everyone knows where he is

[little ridge]

This complaint (as someone who doesn't even use that mod) I can agree, it's the "it makes the game easy!" that I'll never understand

[junior latch]

Tbf i basically dont play with mods

Only do if i play modded and its in the pack

[junior latch]

Huh?

conufsion

confusion

[jagged citrus]

lmao i have a buddy who has a plugin that just makes him walk like 100x faster

[junior latch]

Compass goes brr

[little ridge]

Cant remember who I argued with that kept going how ping everything should be banned

[jagged citrus]

he claims to only use it to carry heavy things long distances during downtime so we dont have as much walking simulator but still

[jagged citrus]

i feel like they should remove the ability to ping sleeping enemies and then its probably fine

[junior latch]

I dont rly care overall
the easier point is obviously true

Tho i meant it in a way that makes communication easy and thus makes it less actual communication focued

[jagged citrus]

i find it very helpful in conjunction with communication

[topaz lichen]

fair, quite a few vets don't especially those part of speedrunning for obv reasons.

[little ridge]

I feel like most of those mods add stuff that the dev would have if they did care

[junior latch]

yes. Ping everywhere is hella strong and freeing

thats the point, devs didnt want that freedom

[jagged citrus]

atp its more of a "i cant go back"

[little ridge]

I remember a super-early alpha build that had the ability of you pinging the zone signs

[jagged citrus]

that would be nice

[lone iris]

its a normal thing in rainbow six siege

a heavily tactical game

[little ridge]

Stuff that was removed probably out of "we need to test this further" then they never bothered

And doesn't go against the spirit of the game at all

I mean take a look at checkpoints

If you asked anyone before R6, they'd say it would never belong to the game

Then the devs added them

[jagged citrus]

i feel like if they were going to add checkpoints to r6 and onwards, it would be nice if they scattered a couple throughout the earlier rundowns

[topaz lichen]

honestly I'm fine with how the devs designed the game. The small issues I have are very minor most being small mostly non-impactful bugs and very difficult net code issues u cannot expect the devs to fix or implement.

[jagged citrus]

(please i just want r2e1 checkpoints its all ive ever wanted)

[little ridge]

(and fucked shit up for other reasons but that's beside the point)

[jagged citrus]

yeah i can think of like 2 or 3 bugs off the top of my head that negatively impact the game experience, everythign else is fairly minor

snatcher bug, terminals breaking if too many people stnad close to them

[little ridge]

Only things I'd wanted to see are a better implementation of stuff like Steam workshop so modding is more convenient and the squashing of bugs

[jagged citrus]

i learned the hard way theres a spot in r2e1 you can softlock

[junior latch]

Well

Tbh they still „dont“

they are rly just an accessibility feature and not part of the game itself (similar to boosters)

[junior latch]

Yup

[topaz lichen]

a qol mod exists for snatcher bug as well but it's harder to install without thunderstore tho

[jagged citrus]

yeah and thats great

[junior latch]

Pvp
also game doesnt intentionally contrive you of stuff. Gtfo does this a lot with information, ressources etc

[jagged citrus]

js it would have been nice if the change was vanilla so vanilla players dont get snatchered

[junior latch]

the 1 bug i despise existing (tho tbh i dunno if it still does since i avoid it HEAVILY) is uplink break

[jagged citrus]

uplink break?

im not familiar

[junior latch]

soft locking a level simply by resetting during a specific time mid drop as long as the level has an uplink

[little ridge]

ah the one where the uplink waves get steroids?

[junior latch]

Forces you to restart game

[jagged citrus]

restart the game?

[junior latch]

Thats one symptom ye

[jagged citrus]

cant even just rehost?

[junior latch]

To fix

[jagged citrus]

yikes

[junior latch]

game starts going BRRRRR

[jagged citrus]

gtfo is a perfect game with zero bugs

[junior latch]

ive had it once accidentally in r4a1 outside of speedrunning

[little ridge]

That's the base for fixing this game's bugs

[jagged citrus]

mhm

[little ridge]

Foam through doors etc

[jagged citrus]

ive had a couple funny problems

my game crashed while i was hosting and completely bricked the lobby

[topaz lichen]

this one isn't 10ccs fault tho, it's unity's

so really can't blame the devs on that one

[jagged citrus]

a bit of a problem ive always had is lack of feedback on HEL weapons

i feel like there should be more of an indicator if you succesfully pierce

[topaz lichen]

u get 2 hit markers lol

[jagged citrus]

yeah but they're like right on top of each other and its hard to tell

for me at least

maybe im just blind

[stable copper]

is terminal bug also impossible to fix? like when 2 people near it sometimes it trigger the loading screen on the terminal and cant interact anymore

[junior latch]

If its the actual loading screen and someone is stuck on it then another person has to step close again

If its frozen, then L

[rose nova]

if its frozen the person who bugged it reconnects

but its hard to pinpoint sometimes

[stable copper]

oof, if it's host it would be very awkward

[topaz lichen]

less impossible and more no one so far can be asked to look into a fix :P