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junior latch
lost lynx
i have severe skill issue
junior latch
(Preferably with the pinky)
daring ginkgo
Low amount of consumables
junior latch
it doesnt have that many ressources if you dont go into the ressource zone
lost lynx
there is a resource zone?
daring ginkgo
But there are zone with decent amount of it right before lvl end
junior latch
As someone who played it as a newbie in og r4
It definetly felt needed for beginner skills
daring ginkgo
Btw secondary/overload zones doors are sick, i wish we had more of those on main lvls
daring ginkgo
Apex - with orange circle in middle?
daring ginkgo
Yeah, when i first time saw this, i thought it will be hard to open this
I was right 
junior latch
Back in og r4 and r5 they were the standard doors for main objectives too btw
And their sounds persisted
(The bulkhead doors)
daring ginkgo
Cool
lost lynx
(The bulkhead doors)
honeslty
im glad they changed them
so it only for sec/ov objectives
it makes them feel more "unique"
burnt flume
Return to early access gtfo
daring ginkgo
Is there any lvl in gtfo, where you can fully stealth it?
rose nova
mhhh
i don't think so
there's always some form of combat even in levels where there isn't any alarms
like r3a2
little ridge
Is there any lvl in gtfo, where you can fully stealth it?
Define fully stealth but no
rose nova
even in levels which give u like different paths, u always have to go to an alarm door
like r1b1
i guess--
little ridge
I think level with less alarms is r1b1, yes
daring ginkgo
Define fully stealth but no
No alarms
rose nova
nevermind
daring ginkgo
Ok
rose nova
yeh even if it's minimal there's combat
little ridge
R1B1 always requires to open the zone on the right anyway and that has an alarm
rose nova
yeah
even if it's a single zone with 2 in the others it amounts to 11
and i don't think u can get like
the rng for all of em have in 3
little ridge
and i don't think u can get like
?
hidden flame
the rng does not matter
little ridge
You CAN get lucky and have only 4 zones to go through (of course I exclude start zone since that always has nothing)
junior latch
even if it's a single zone with 2 in the others it amounts to 11
No like, zone 43 (the class 2 alarm) is mandatory
little ridge
Otherwise it's 5
hidden flame
you need the alarm to get a key to go into giant zone
junior latch
^
rose nova
oh right
hidden flame
you need to do the alarm or you have only 2 zones
rose nova
i forgot it key :3
little ridge
junior latch
you can only access 2 zones without doing that alarm
rose nova
https://ptb.discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/416907525460590593/124465237...
should've mentioned the key i would've known kdmskdm
but yes i i forgot my bad :3
daring ginkgo
On overload zones, when i type commands on terminal, it has no effect on level? Like first overload on r4a2 was command Disable life support, i though full lvl will be covered in poisonous fog or something, but no
little ridge
On overload zones, when i type commands on terminal, it has no effect on level? ...
Those things dont really have a pattern
But no, in R4A2 does nothing aside from being an objective, and in R4A3 spawns a wave of hybrids and some whatever
rose nova
most commands for r4 are kinda excuses just to have an objective to do
it's just something to do so u open the error door
not rlly cause they amount to anything
i'm sure if they could they would've just made non objective overloads where u just grab the key and go
rose nova
i doubt it tbh, unless it's cases like a2 where u gotta like cross the entire scout filled parade
but others like ||b2|| are just made so u just go in and go out immediately
little ridge
Otherwise people would dab like in R5A2 Overload, rush HD and that's it
daring ginkgo
Ok, it just feels a bit strange, when secondary objective require more investing, then overload (so far)
rose nova
i mean thats a different case tho
mellow hedge
just how it is sometimes
little ridge
Ok, it just feels a bit strange, when secondary objective require more investing...
R4A2 extreme is very cookie-cutter if you dont have the error wave
To be honest it's cookie-cutter even WITH the error
daring ginkgo
Its a bit tight, cause there are 1 or 2 scouts iirc
rose nova
what does being cookie cutter mean
2 scouts in ov one in sec
but u can get away with just sniping it
little ridge
2 scouts in ov one in sec
I THINK the 3 zones after beeeg room in Secondary CAN have scouts but I'm not sure
I know they did in OG
rose nova
uhh i think some have some don't but i'm unsure now
i mostly defend
so it's hard to know
little ridge
but yeah Overload always has 2 and there's always 1 in beeeg room
rose nova
Ok, it just feels a bit strange, when secondary objective require more investing...
but well, ov just tends to be the hardest, so u will see em be interchangeable from time to time
daring ginkgo
On r4a3 there are a lot of scouts on huge secondary zone😂
rose nova
it just depends on what the game thinks it's harder
oh yeah that sec sucks ass
pitch black darkness in the most huge zone
aaaa
junior latch
but yeah Overload always has 2 and there's always 1 in beeeg room
actually, this isnt necessarily the case
daring ginkgo
And this zone has little to none resources
junior latch
they can spawn in 2nd and 3rd room
little ridge
they can spawn in 2nd and 3rd room
nono
I meant beeg room as in Secondary first zone
little ridge
Nah my bad I should have been more explicit
rose nova
i was trying to see if i could force a joke but u both r too nice smh
no space for comedy anymore
daring ginkgo
This is serious and friendly chat (mostly)
latent palm
Nah my bad I should have been more explicit
Sleepo
mystic moss
yooo
stable copper
lusty ibex
how much money to watch you stream :3
I m curious
mystic moss
how much money to watch you stream :3
enough to pay for my psych meds
pallid anvil
enough to pay for my psych meds
deal
robust dawn
bro in debt
blissful dome
enough to pay for my psych meds
We are not Jeff bezos, please
daring ginkgo
holy crap, r4b1 turns out as pretty easy level with secondary obj, if you know the route, poor mother was right behind last door, thank god bot got foam grenade
shut vapor
R4B1 is only slightly annoying if you don't use foggers
little ridge
R4B1 is only annoying if you get spitteraudiobug
Considering that R8C1 allows you to technically skip MAIN if you select OVERLOAD, which maps would benefit from the same logic to be added?
R5C2 is certanly one
R4C2 perhaps
daring ginkgo
lmao, i was doing r4b2, i got on higher floor with staircase, giant climbed like half of his body and he instantly attacked me in melee, resulting in wipe ahah
shut vapor
R5C2 idk, you still have to go through main to access extract
R4C2 hasn't even got a dedicated main sector
shut vapor
lmao, i was doing r4b2, i got on higher floor with staircase, giant climbed like...
giants :D
daring ginkgo
that looked funny af
i was 100% sure, that he has to climb his whole body up before attacking
and again, error alarm, jeez
shut vapor
On a staircase or a ladder?
daring ginkgo
at least it is not that obnoxious, rare spawn
i was on a container
with vertical ladder i think?
daring ginkgo
yeah
shame, that i am yet to come to overload zone, but it was my first try anyway
shut vapor
R4B2 Overload 
daring ginkgo
as far as i understand, i shound NOT plug in cells in generator cluster, cause fog thickens
shut vapor
this isn't true. the fog lowers
overload is lower than main so this does prove problematic
daring ginkgo
🤨
daring ginkgo
hmm, when i plugged cells, fog thickens in generator room at least
shut vapor
The fog comes down from the ceiling
imagine it as a thick layer of fog
and it just moves down the y axis
rose nova
still not very recommended to plug in cells until the very end
daring ginkgo
yeah, i know this mechanic from r2d1
rose nova
:]
shut vapor
rose nova
dies
daring ginkgo
at least i can see, which room has cells, thanks to bots cheese
wraith marsh
That is not just bots
shut vapor
tech??
daring ginkgo
without line of sight on this item?
daring ginkgo
wraith marsh
It's called q2ing
shut vapor
literally the first i've heard of it
wraith marsh
It's very useful for literally every carry item
We use it in speeds a lot
Q2 and terminal storage are the best techs to come to this game
little ridge
I mean with humans you can also just ping but yeah
For example it doesn't help me much on r2c2 with vanilla bots (also because it's an error)
but it's a godsend for r2d1
since r2c2 has very beeeg rooms knowing that it's "in room C" doesn't help
since with humans you'd ping the cell anyway and it'd give you the same info
of course speedrunners know all possible positions I guess
so for them it helps a lot more
wraith marsh
Gotta find a term then
little ridge
Now that it's the subject, would you consider bot-fetching stuff to be cheese?
Like, say, cells in R2D1
daring ginkgo
i think yeah
low tier cheese
or QoL if playing with bots
i just looked at map for overload sector, on r4b2, holy shit
bigger than main + secondary zones combined 
daring ginkgo
they immune to poison 😭
daring ginkgo
this make you play better
pine root
Maybe
What I love is people finding out they shouldn’t give their bots bio because if your just pinging for yourself it is kinda worthless like
3 bots and pings
That only I will use
daring ginkgo
bots with bio on error alarms is great
daring ginkgo
turrets too
pine root
and turrets(sniper and shotgun) unless shadows
daring ginkgo
i think i still use bio on myself on r4b2 on next try, cause there are a lot of sleeping enemies in zones, so i can track them
pine root
^^%
Yeah
Bio on the human
Is greater
The ping everything on the map is cute and all but the info you get for stealth insane
daring ginkgo
its just almost all previous error alarm lvls havent sleeping enemies or very low amount, so bot with bio was pretty cool
but r4b2 have large amount of those
and PLEASE, stop giving error alarms on r4, jesus
alpine scaffold
i just looked at map for overload sector, on r4b2, holy shit
R4B2 is the generator cluster?
daring ginkgo
Yea
little ridge
Those pings are just for you
What's the alternative?
I'd rather not give bots foam or mine
A third sentry?
I take bio personally whenever there's a lot of shit I kinda need to stealth but in stuff like R2D1 I just dont give a fuck and pull rooms
lost lynx
gtfo is bad
hel shotgun is bad
sleepy was right
little ridge
From my impression, the big downside to giving a bot bio is that, aside from not relaying info over what's sleeping, it really wastes a lot of time pinging and doesn't shoot as much as a non-bio bot
junior latch
its a trade off for the player generally being more accurate and taking less damage throughout a level
high orchid
From my impression, the big downside to giving a bot bio is that, aside from not...
biggest downside of bot bio is the issues of using a bot more than anything
hidden flame
i would say that the main issue with bot bio is how much it gets oversold
little ridge
biggest downside of bot bio is the issues of using a bot more than anything
yes Hatsune the premise includes the use of a bot as its hypothesis
little ridge
i would say that the main issue with bot bio is how much it gets oversold
ehhhh
Jish meant it as "if you're the only one benefitting from pings"
So it implied 1 human 3 bots
hidden flame
i do know what jish meant
little ridge
3 humans would benefit from having shit pinged during alarms more than 3 bots
hidden flame
i'm talking about what hatsune said
bot bio is oversold, yes the pings are insane but a human can still give amazing pings
high orchid
and you don't need to play the keep away when you want to save resources for later
little ridge
and you don't need to play the keep away when you want to save resources for lat...
but that's bots in general
Like, let me explain
"i'm talking about what hatsune said
bot bio is oversold, yes the pings are insane but a human can still give amazing pings"
"and you don't need to play the keep away when you want to save resources for later"
Those 2 statements aren't (what's the word for things that go together)
unless Pachi for bot bio meant bots in general
high orchid
im just not giving full effort for this im going between like 4 different shits rn lol
little ridge
I dont know I dont see bot bio being oversold, there's cases where I'd rather have a human get a bio like if sleeping shadows are there
Perhaps I'm just too much thinking about the 1 human + 3 bots as part of the premise
high orchid
that is the best case when running bot bio
lost lynx
clear magnet
Is there a spoiler chat? I feel like I remember there being one but I cannot find it
spare pike
There is
Go to that Channel and Roles at the top of the server
Then All Channels until you find it
clear magnet
thanks, that was it
noble hollow
Anyone want to talk about the flower backpack?
lost lynx
Anyone want to talk about the flower backpack?
one of the best backpack design i have seen in videogames
and probably one of the best cosmetics
noble hollow
If you could make up a reason as to why the prisoner would want to carry some flower on their back instead of a well packback what would it be
lost lynx
If you could make up a reason as to why the prisoner would want to carry some fl...
oxygen
blissful dome
youre funny pable
lost lynx
the backpack is most likely used to generate oxygen so they can breath
knowing the context of the game
blissful dome
ok
lost lynx
:D
blissful dome
its actually a flower and a lot of grass
and thats supposed to be a great improvement?
blissful dome
cope
lost lynx
shut vapor
analog flicker
trim sail
damn, I sense throbbing in my heart whenever I see a human being enduring the curse called "I'm new to the game so i can manage to blaze through E1 because someone will carry me no matter what. And I sit above rule 7"
blissful dome
damn, I sense throbbing in my heart whenever I see a human being enduring the cu...
rule 7 abuse goes hard
shut vapor
RIP noobs
trim sail
"I'll stick to this loadout cuz i feel like it" said by an average human being who wants to go carbine in a full nightmares level
blissful dome
💀
trim sail
facts
blissful dome
hel shotty pr 🙏
trim sail
hel shotty is not bad
trim sail
what does pr mean, sr
blissful dome
precision rifle
blissful dome
the pub ptsd goes hard
trim sail
let me wipe your sweat, darling
trim sail
<:blobsweat:676922135666753558>
shut vapor
definitely not me
blissful dome
hmmmm
alpine scaffold
hel shotty pr is just downright questionable
blissful dome
<:SantonianWhatElse:813148031867158548>
<3
mellow hedge
all is forgiven
pine root
it solo holds so many alarms
the class 4
doesnt even reach us unless we pull 3 scouts
idk
mellow hedge
dayum
mellow hedge
i dont think i got that update
quartz cape
its a rare spawn
junior latch
hel auto back damage
Does it outplay the accuracy 
?
junior latch
holy crap
pine root
it solo holds surge 3 and alarm 4
and has ammo left over if the foam rng is good
i think
it is still not a great sentry it just has this nechi use
wraith marsh
good for last surge too
pine root
are there other uses where it wrecks shit
maybe
junior latch
probably smurfs on stuff like r6d4 surge too on the open door
pastel dagger
spare pike
🪼
junior latch
@pine root truueee
Hel weapons go brrr
pine root
<@325636095067029507> truueee
Hel weapons go brrr
yeah
the run is very diffrent now
heat bug
junior latch
huh :0?
pine root
being "fixed"
makes 2nd surge
much much worse
sniper being weak is unfo
but scatter and hel guns
are way stronger
junior latch
yea
i presume you are shooting that alarm or still going for mini ladder foam (probably not since its singe foam run)
pine root
yea
i presume you are shooting that alarm or still going for mini ladder foam (...
we use about 120% on ladder
true looks for tool
and we high roll
junior latch
120% on small?
modern coral
We foam on the way in and for pulling shadows.
It's same as TC, but second launcher seems unnecessary.
junior latch
you pull 2nd blood door before error?
wraith marsh
you pull 2nd blood door before error?
ye
we kinda didnt care about the timing cuz this was our first completion
junior latch
tbf it seems to me that back dmg auto sentry is specifically just a huge carry here
i dont remember how the timings were exactly
but in a lot of cases pulling just lost time even
Tho its more stable
modern coral
TC waits for blood door to pull to start surge
we don't think we care, we just go
and blood door can catch up
mellow hedge
i thought sentries didnt get back damage?
modern coral
It feels like most of our time save is early in the run, tbh.
Auto sentry specifically seems to get it.
modern coral
Probably related to the targetting revert
mellow hedge
well its cool that its used for an e tier speedrun lmao
junior latch
the person who brought it up probably 
It might be good for other speeds too
since you dont need it to hold wave as long
pine root
well its cool that its used for an e tier speedrun lmao
i am so sad
wraith marsh
dont let the aut osentry stans see this
mellow hedge
r4e1 no foam but use auto sentry?!?!?!?!?!
gusty burrow
but in a lot of cases pulling just lost time even
There's no reason to ever wait before pulling, it's 1 striker that spawns.
The only possible timeloss is a few ms from not being on the door scan, and maybe a few seconds from heavy carries needing to stop (bodyguard just needs to play better if that's the case).
The blood door puller should never be late to scans, you get to leave so early after Class IV.
gusty burrow
well its cool that its used for an e tier speedrun lmao
All the stars align for it. It gets the very specific set of circumstances for it to kill more than burst (very tight funnel with ladder + doorway and gets back damage), and the times we want to use it in the level are far enough apart that we don't care about how ridiculously hungry it is.
junior latch
There's no reason to ever wait before pulling, it's 1 striker that spawns.
The ...
It was mostly waiting to pull error
Tho back then you could also potentially have enemies still be stuck in foam while entering error zone. Which was insane when it happened
copper flare
anybody could recommend general expeditions that can make the game interesting when playing Solo/Duo/Trio-Only
upper loom
anybody could recommend general expeditions that can make the game interesting w...
R3A3 is a very fun solo ( i'm lying don't subject urself to this )
R3D1 is a goated duo
and u can play any level trio probably
junior latch
depends on skill level in the end tbh
R3D1 is a good one since its very moderate but super fun
R6D3 is also not too bad
copper flare
depends on skill level in the end tbh
Generally good player in all departments, sometimes i get skill issued by scouts and accidentaly running into a charger in the corner of a room
^evaluation based on myself tbh^
junior latch
R3D1, R4E1, R5C2, R5D2, R6C3, R6D3, R6D4, R7D2, R7E1, R8B3
Theres lot of chill stuff like R6C1, R6C2 and so on that i also consider quite fun
upper loom
R3D1, R4E1, R5C2, R5D2, R6C3, R6D3, R6D4, R7D2, R7E1, R8B3
R4E1 duo 
pine root
and u can play any level trio probably
you can play any level duo
copper flare
you can play any level duo
Get the feeling of "if you are a over-experienced" pro player
junior latch
R4E1 duo is smth i havent done myself, but i know its quite fun
(Altho gotta say, sawed off scatter solo hold goes hard @pine root )
upper loom
Get the feeling of "if you are a over-experienced" pro player
yeah]
any level duo isn't realistic for most of the player base
upper loom
R4E1 duo is smth i havent done myself, but i know its quite fun
(Altho gotta sa...
that sounds like a nightmare
holding w sawed off and scatter
i can't even do it w hel revo and gun
copper flare
any level duo isn't realistic for most of the player base
i could get the first levels in any rundown (primarily A-B and maybe C in some cases) but i am a good on anything that is loadout and tool related weaponry
upper loom
i could get the first levels in any rundown (primarily A-B and maybe C in some c...
you should definitely give R3D1 duo a try
copper flare
R3D1, R4E1, R5C2, R5D2, R6C3, R6D3, R6D4, R7D2, R7E1, R8B3
btw is this a list of Fun expeditions?
copper flare
would have to try these sometime in the future if i ever find a duo partner 😭
upper loom
you could duo R3D1 with a pub
copper flare
you should definitely give R3D1 duo a try
I will, tried it solo and the only thing that i looked at that was wrong was probably my loadout
upper loom
I will, tried it solo and the only thing that i looked at that was wrong was pro...
tbh
junior latch
btw is this a list of Fun expeditions?
Fun and challenging (r3d1 aside which is mostly fun)
upper loom
i've found that with soloing levels you start to get really over-analytic with your loadout
it's best to just
pick something your good with
and know can kill the enemies in the level
don't think about it too hard
upper loom
pick something your good with
this is really important
copper flare
Fun and challenging (r3d1 aside which is mostly fun)
love that my favourite GTFO- youtuber actually gives a good tip
copper flare
what're you running for R3D1 solo
last time i got to the mother room i had sawed off and hel rifle
upper loom
last time i got to the mother room i had sawed off and hel rifle
died to mom?
copper flare
died to mom?
yes
upper loom
you running mines or sentry
copper flare
pick something your good with
Usually i run spesific loadouts (tools are whatever) depending on what objectives there are
copper flare
you running mines or sentry
sentry primarily hel
upper loom
sentry primarily hel
i'd reccomend trying mines
junior latch
if you want a more chill level of challenge and fun (personal take obviously then id probably say)
R3D1, R4B1, R4D1, R6C1, R6C2, R6D1, R6D2 and R7B3
upper loom
if it doesn't interfere too hard with ur strategy already
idk how important hel sentry is to ur run
mines lets you get a lot of damage off on mom
copper flare
if you want a more chill level of challenge and fun (personal take obviously the...
Gonna make a list of recommendated expeditions based on your takes
upper loom
just by conserving some tool throuhuot the level
upper loom
Gonna make a list of recommendated expeditions based on your takes<:SantonianWha...
hes cooking
i hate R6C2 personally but that's me coping because I suck at that level
copper flare
i hate R6C2 personally but that's me coping because I suck at that level
Same
junior latch
mines lets you get a lot of damage off on mom
Dont mine mom 
upper loom
Dont mine mom <a:NOOOOvanish:1174962962298060830>
realistically
copper flare
forgor to mention but i run it with boosters (r3d1)
upper loom
forgor to mention but i run it with boosters (r3d1)
yeah that's 100% valid
ur soloing
so
junior latch
i hate R6C2 personally but that's me coping because I suck at that level
R6C2 is giga based if you skip fog turbine after 1st generator
Fog turbine makes ending miserable
copper flare
- do secondary with fog
upper loom
forgor to mention but i run it with boosters (r3d1)
supply, damage?
copper flare
supply, damage?
primarily big med-efficiency boosters + 1 supply efficiency and a sentry cpu speed (bold or aggro)
upper loom
primarily big med-efficiency boosters + 1 supply efficiency and a sentry cpu spe...
supply on R3D1 is a good idea
junior latch
supply on R3D1 is a good idea
upper loom
because you are one person so you're gonna be spending a lot more time in that error than usual
upper loom
<:d4rkevThink:1168549978885587047>
hes playing alone
copper flare
Thinking that med is better
junior latch
R3D1 has so much already
upper loom
you don't have the eyes and carrying capacity of 4 people though
copper flare
yeah but you dont find alot of tools (unless you do one of the second security doors at the beginning after the error alarm is done
junior latch
oh xen doing full solo?
upper loom
so the likelihood is you don't find it all or you can't carry
upper loom
oh xen doing full solo?
yes
copper flare
oh xen doing full solo?
Oui
upper loom
yeah but you dont find alot of tools (unless you do one of the second security d...
that too, level is filled with ammo
but tool is like
okay
junior latch
tool is also pretty abundant
upper loom
tool is also pretty abundant
he's running hel sentry so it all gets devoured
copper flare
not as abundant as r8a2 😭
junior latch
theres big tools in 1st zone, post blood door zone, baby input zone
upper loom
class 3, defending error, class 6
junior latch
not as abundant as r8a2 😭
copper flare
he's running hel sentry so it all gets devoured
Running hel sentry just for error alarm and mom
spesifically
copper flare
p mom
copper flare
ye
junior latch
uuuh
junior latch
sawed off can massively kill babies
upper loom
i'd choose a different loadout
copper flare
i'd choose a different loadout
(if you say arbalist im shooting the trip mine under my feet)
upper loom
junior latch
imagine arbalist lol
upper loom
(if you say arbalist im shooting the trip mine under my feet)
no
i've never ran a machine gun for soloing
junior latch
could run hel gun
upper loom
yes
junior latch
more baby clear value
copper flare
i've never ran a machine gun for soloing
Never did i until r2d2
nimble pumice
a wise man once said
upper loom
more baby clear value
i think that depends on how good he is at pulling the charger room
nimble pumice
you can always run hel gun
upper loom
w hel rifle
upper loom
w hel rifle
killing chargers w hel gun is good but it's 2 shots instead of 1 and when they stagger they sometimes stumble sideways and aren't lined up anymore
copper flare
fair enough since hel gun has a mid ttk
upper loom
it just makes life a 🤏 harder
copper flare
killing chargers w hel gun is good but it's 2 shots instead of 1 and when they s...
nah i camp on the stairs by apex door
id win
junior latch
fair enough since hel gun has a mid ttk
More dps than hel rifle by a lot
upper loom
More dps than hel rifle by a lot
yes
junior latch
hel gun better reload and dps generally make charger zone pull a lot easier
copper flare
run hel gun xen
i will try
upper loom
every other special simply can't compete
nimble pumice
this
copper flare
and inform if anything has changed
Main weapon preference wouldnt make a big diff would it?
upper loom
Main weapon preference wouldnt make a big diff would it?
sawed off is a solid choice
junior latch
it definetly can
upper loom
if it's working don't change it
junior latch
Sawed off is rly good for mom babies/kills aswell as charger zones and giants
upper loom
yeah
junior latch
but hel revo/carbine can pull through more on normal alarms
nimble pumice
2 backshots
upper loom
2 backshots
walk up behind a giant say 'did you pray today'
copper flare
2 shot giants to the back
Thats why you cook huh?
upper loom
Thats why you cook huh?
sometimes
i prefer hel revo
in the levels I playt
but sawed off is great
copper flare
i prefer either pdw, revo or sawed off
upper loom
pdw exclusively for shadows?
copper flare
pdw exclusively for shadows?
heard its an upgrade to the heavy smg from someone
upper loom
i think if u run pdw outside of shadow levels you're psychopathic
copper flare
cant remember who
copper flare
i think if u run pdw outside of shadow levels you're psychopathic
call me it then 😉
upper loom
heard its an upgrade to the heavy smg from someone
that's not much of an upgrade
nimble pumice
I cant make myself run pdw even in shadow lvls
upper loom
that's not much of an upgrade
not much of a starting point either
like yeah, pdw kills things, but it's a pea shooter and the alternatives are so infinitely better
if u want an smg run carbine
upper loom
the alternatives that arent full auto yes
true
junior latch
smg and heavy smg are basically like pdw
upper loom
carbine is a burst weapon
its basically full auto if u click left click real fast
junior latch
honestly they are better in straight combat but its so marginal
upper loom
it's not the sluggish kind of burst
copper flare
carbine is a burst weapon
aschually its a 4 shot burst weapon since burst weapons are mainly considered as 3 round 🤓
nimble pumice
upper loom
aschually its a 4 shot burst weapon since burst weapons are mainly considered as...
how much of the game do u plan on soloing
copper flare
how much of the game do u plan on soloing
All of it
i havent finished the game 100%
nimble pumice
copper flare
and im doing shit solo already
upper loom
i reccomend not soloing the levels that are long kite extravaganzas
which is most of the e tiers
if not all of them
nimble pumice
or are you doing "solo" with bots
copper flare
i reccomend not soloing the levels that are long kite extravaganzas
Unless you straight up cheese door in the e tier expeditions
copper flare
or are you doing "solo" with bots
Full solo no bots
upper loom
if not all of them
because at that point the gameplay gets extremely unrewarding
you just run around
nimble pumice
well then lord have mercy
upper loom
do a scan
nimble pumice
which lvls did you clear already?
copper flare
which lvls did you clear already?
R1 and R2
nimble pumice
r1a1 r2a1?
copper flare
which is most of the e tiers
(little bit late on that since i already did r2e1 solo
copper flare
r1a1 r2a1?
Entire rundowns
upper loom
(little bit late on that since i already did r2e1 solo
yh so you're familiar with that already
copper flare
both
junior latch
R2E1 the long kite simulator
upper loom
R2E1 the long kite simulator
yes
i think the cheese spot in the room off to the left of spawn
also helps a lot
junior latch
honestly you cant solo the game without glitch abuse anyway
nimble pumice
Entire rundowns
neato
upper loom
also helps a lot
anytime you do an alarm, you kite there and then run back for a scan
upper loom
except for the first one
junior latch
Plus youd still have to long kite quite a few levels (like r7d1 and r8c1ovl which mandate it)
upper loom
if you're having fun long kiting
go for it
but theres levels you'll get alot more out of
upper loom
idk man maybe he likes running in game marathons
nimble pumice
upper loom
e-sports athlete type shit
copper flare
Plus youd still have to long kite quite a few levels (like r7d1 and r8c1ovl whic...
R8v1 overload? huh?
copper flare
idk man maybe he likes running in game marathons
Nah, i just like playing games that increase the difficulty based on the amount of people that you (dont) play with
thats why i like running high rounds in cod zombies 🤤
junior latch
C1
copper flare
e-sports athlete type shit
Put that mindset into a grindset gamer
junior latch
Duo gtfo is best way to experience challenging gameplay
all is possible
no boosters/glitches/kiting required
copper flare
with little /no cheesing?
quick marten
i got no one ;-;
junior latch
it just gets harder if you dont use some cheesy strats like shutting down alarms/errors
copper flare
i got no one ;-;
not alone in that department
upper loom
Duo gtfo is best way to experience challenging gameplay
Real
R3D1 and R4E1 attempts have been some of the most fun ive had with the game
copper flare
it just gets harder if you dont use some cheesy strats like shutting down alarms...
i mean i could see that in a way
quick marten
if i solo should i get a bio tracker or sentry?
upper loom
if i solo should i get a bio tracker or sentry?
Never bio
nimble pumice
Duo gtfo is best way to experience challenging gameplay
this, even though I suck 
upper loom
Always mines, foam or sentry depending on the level
robust dawn
Duo gtfo is best way to experience challenging gameplay
E levels with pubbies
upper loom
But you never run bio
junior latch
E levels with pubbies
thats micromanaging
copper flare
E levels with pubbies
something i want to do with a dedicated pub lobby
but only a person can dream this much
daring ginkgo
E levels with pubbies
I was in some of those lobbies as fresh new player, but i left immediately, cause i was scared and dont want to ruin lobby 😅
copper flare
Honestly i might come back to the OG rundowns just to complete those as well and experience them
daring ginkgo
We can? With Mods?
robust dawn
With Admins
copper flare
Have a friend that showed me how to play them (wont mention them since i dont know if i can on this server)
daring ginkgo
interesting
pine root
how do i take out 4 strikers close to each other..
it depeds
how close
if they arent all proxy
you can force proxy
daring ginkgo
Fast melee with team or shoot
quick marten
im solo
quick marten
ok
daring ginkgo
We cant post pic, no?
pine root
in media
quick marten
there
pine root
there
you can just hit the right one
full charger then
only the middle will wake up
then half charge that
so you stand inbetween the right and middle shooter
move as little as possible beteween kills
quick marten
then what happens to the one on the left and infront of me
wont they scream when im tryna hit?
pine root
then what happens to the one on the left and infront of me
they dont wake up
quick marten
alr imma try
junior latch
wont they scream when im tryna hit?
basicallx what jish has been explaining. You got this!
quick marten
yea ive watched it but i just dont know how to implement it yk
pine root
yea ive watched it but i just dont know how to implement it yk
yeah
you can probs just hit the front one
no issue
junior latch
Full charge for first kill (just safe) then once an enemy is woken up nothing you do to them will wake up others
as long as you dont disturb them direcrly or move too much (or let the awake one scream)
so getting into a good position for a quick follow up hit to the back of the head or similar is the play usually)
junior latch
quick marten
there was like 5 shooters shooting at me
pine root
so that is becasue non of them were proxy
so could have just hit them all
no issue it seems
junior latch
so that is becasue non of them were proxy
I think they mean someone further out
junior latch
^
junior latch
gj on the 4 kill then tho
pine root
yeah
junior latch
Just take your time next time then
quick marten
i heard the sounds but i couldnt see them ;-;
junior latch
Rushing the last kill can lead to that
quick marten
yea
junior latch
Actually @pine root
Do you know whether bots shooting a tripmine will wake up enemies it should right?
robust dawn
Use knife
quick marten
is it just me or do i not rly like the carbine 4 burst shot
junior latch
is it just me or do i not rly like the carbine 4 burst shot
yes that would be a subjective not liking it
pine root
Actually <@325636095067029507>
Do you know whether bots shooting a tripmine w...
no idea
junior latch
is fine 
Guns strong. But theres other options
honest parrot
i hate tryna take down a scout while theres like 4 other enemies around ;-;
Just shoot the scout or wait for the scout to present themselves elsewhere
Simple
honest parrot
Then wait for it to present themselves elsewhere
junior latch
cant afford to shoot it
hammer bonk spree on shooters goes brrr
quick marten
triggered one enemy while i was avoiding the tentacles
daring ginkgo
i hate tryna take down a scout while theres like 4 other enemies around ;-;
Ikr, on r3d1 there were only 1 staircase leading to next room, there were charger scount roaming around and charger giant close to that staircase, i w8ted few minutes, until scout moved on
quick marten
sucks
honest parrot
I mean on that level if the scout is in a shit spot you just don't care about it
junior latch
gotta show dem balls
honest parrot
You trigger him and take the ammo hit
pine root
triggered one enemy while i was avoiding the tentacles
You can tap kill shooters to back of the head btw
junior latch
occi goes hard on shooters
quick marten
no need to charge?
pine root
yeah
junior latch
yup no charge needed if you got the right angle
pine root
On back of head
junior latch
As always. Stay attentive and check whether its dead
quick marten
i always half charge and aim head to be safe
honest parrot
Has anyone calculated the minimum angles for these things?
robust dawn
At least 30
junior latch
Yes
robust dawn
No wait more
junior latch
Iirc tru had a diagram picture or smth
robust dawn
Maybe like 45 or 50
daring ginkgo
How long giants stay in stagger state after breaking his limbs? Sometimes i break his limb, and can charge my weapon fully(spear) and he is doing nothing and sometime on like 3/4 of charge he start attacking and down nearby bots
To break giant limbs i need like 4/5 of charge?
junior latch
To break giant limbs i need like 4/5 of charge?
depends on whether you are infront or behind him
also if you arent in range he wont swing and sometimes stand still
Due to an animation issue them screaming can also look like standing still
also
Spear
copper flare
also varies depending on melee
bat and knife need to hit from the back at least to get most value
daring ginkgo
I feel like to break limb infront i need almost full charge
copper flare
but knife kills quicker
copper flare
I feel like to break limb infront i need almost full charge
just fully charge them since you have alot of range
daring ginkgo
Tell this to bots
They come close to giant, and if i miss timing, he just hit them all
copper flare
get closer to the giant before bots come within 2-5 meter range
daring ginkgo
I literally missed charge time yesterday and second giant on level downed all 3 bots xd
copper flare
or let them just noclip into the giant and then melee
junior latch
Is this about asleep giants or awake
copper flare
also always make sure the bots have bats instead of knives
quick marten
i dont get controlled long range aggro
junior latch
Cuz why not shoot awake ones
copper flare
for some reason they have absurd melee damage and fully charge their swigs
daring ginkgo
Is this about asleep giants or awake
I usually first hit giant on occupit, then try to break another limb
junior latch
i dont get controlled long range aggro
Its challenging to do alone and is generally more advanced anyway
copper flare
Is this about asleep giants or awake
im assuming boffum
daring ginkgo
Sleeping*
copper flare
I usually first hit giant on occupit, then try to break another limb
just go: occiput, left / right hand, and then feet
daring ginkgo
Not always
copper flare
true
daring ginkgo
100% hp bot > 20% hp bot
daring ginkgo
just go: occiput, left / right hand, and then feet
Why this order?
copper flare
make life easier
junior latch
just go: occiput, left / right hand, and then feet
Giant will be dead after 3 hits
copper flare
its harder to hit the hands than feet if the giant is awake
copper flare
Giant will be dead after 3 hits <:florkShrug1:911745490033442846>
from the back + spear?
junior latch
yes
copper flare
If you stagger then i guess
junior latch
same for hammer honestly (but 4 happens)
you automatically stagger by doing limb breaks 
quick marten
is there a way to stealth a giant and a striker side by side?
junior latch
you do nearly 80 dmg on first hit. Doing 40 dmg with 2 hits shouldnt be the issue for spear from behind
copper flare
you dont break limbs efficiently if the giant turns its back
junior latch
is there a way to stealth a giant and a striker side by side?
alone? if you dont want to wake them room up? Only with baiting giant melee or double hit tech
both which are not easy at all to pull off
junior latch
you dont break limbs efficiently if the giant turns its back
Move
robust dawn
you dont break limbs efficiently if the giant turns its back
You mean when the giant teleports back to its original spot after being staggered?
quick marten
hmm sucks..
junior latch
hmm sucks..
are you still in r1b2 or diff level?
quick marten
r1b2
junior latch
then its chickens
dont worry about them
They are pretty harmless
just kill everything else first
copper flare
i played with the spear and dropped it after 2 days of playing with it
quick marten
its the same way as killing giants right?
junior latch
guess its a skill issue then
A spear issue one might say
junior latch
its the same way as killing giants right?
Eh
Chickens are harder to true stealth as they got higher hp and head wont break
(Alone)
copper flare
i just prefer the knife or bat personally
junior latch
but they also dont pose even half as much danger
robust dawn
i played with the spear and dropped it after 2 days of playing with it
A matter of skill
junior latch
hammer go brrr
shut vapor
im so eepy ;-;
halcyon leaf
Eh
Chickens are harder to true stealth as they got higher hp and head wont break
Right click until help arrives😈
quick marten
so how can i stealth them? iirc i encounted 2/3 in a room
halcyon leaf
Surely
copper flare
Eh
Chickens are harder to true stealth as they got higher hp and head wont break
go for limbs 🤓
halcyon leaf
Silentshot scattergun😈
robust dawn
Just kill all other sleepers and go loud killing the cjickens
copper flare
Until you broke 4 and the 5th wont stagger
true
quick marten
Eh
Chickens are harder to true stealth as they got higher hp and head wont break
but the chicken still take occiput damage right?
halcyon leaf
Just kill all other sleepers and go loud killing the cjickens
What if they are doing a group hug
junior latch
so how can i stealth them? iirc i encounted 2/3 in a room
-
they rly arent that dangerous (you opened the ressource zone didnt you xD) so just leave them be honestly
You can often just walk around them -
2nd player or bots
-
a bit of luck based no scream after 1st hit being an occi hit
robust dawn
What if they are doing a group hug
Just attack one by one, dodging their slow ahh projectiles by going in circles
junior latch
honestly the most based solo stealth on a chicken is a double clean occi hammer hit (alone)
quick marten
hmm
halcyon leaf
Just attack one by one, dodging their slow ahh projectiles by going in circles
Nono i mean a 10 pp hug
copper flare
unless you scream-cancel it
halcyon leaf
What then
robust dawn
Nono i mean a 10 pp hug
??? What
quick marten
can u stagger them by shoving?
halcyon leaf
can u stagger them by shoving?
Yes frfr
junior latch
No
junior latch
unless you scream-cancel it
This is super hard on shooters/chickens tbh
shut vapor
just get lucky
copper flare
This is super hard on shooters/chickens tbh
shut vapor
epic embed fail
copper flare
im on the browser 😭
halcyon leaf
I find spear to be good on hybrids since you can do 1 oxy and then full charge anywhere on the headagain and they die, might work for chickens if they have the same multipliers
copper flare
epic embed fail
with all due respect but tf is that sleeper on your profile?
junior latch
I find spear to be good on hybrids since you can do 1 oxy and then full charge a...
It does and its the easiest way
Still risks a scream
shut vapor
with all due respect but tf is that sleeper on your profile?
It's the licker
nimble pumice
use a stug profile pic
copper flare
It's the licker
it looks aggrevating and makes me uncomfortable af
shut vapor
junior latch
I would have hoped someone who speared a tank wouldve known this smh my head
halcyon leaf
Still risks a scream
“OoOoOoOohh”
copper flare
I would have hoped someone who speared a tank wouldve known this smh my head
@near stag wanted to take care of the tank on r5c2 secondary with melee 😄
and almost fucked it
quick marten
So i just gotta be very lucky on stealthing chickens
copper flare
and almost fucked it
(not literally)
junior latch
So i just gotta be very lucky on stealthing chickens
Tbh you can simply stealth everything else and then bully them
they might scream but if they dont wake up a bunch of small they wont endanger you
quick marten
Alr
copper flare
btw, knife is effective for babies when mother spawns them?
tall hawk
I find spear to be good on hybrids since you can do 1 oxy and then full charge a...
right click until help arrives
this is the way
copper flare
this is the way
trust
robust dawn
Thrudt
gusty burrow
Iirc tru had a diagram picture or smth
CC: @honest parrot
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier
You need max back multi so the blue region in the diagram is accurate for shooter occi.
halcyon leaf
right click until help arrives
I thought you well. son.
shut vapor
Fandom :(
tall hawk
bro can't even spell taught
junior latch
btw, knife is effective for babies when mother spawns them?
Check out professor scalers knife vs pmom video (or „knife is the best melee“ or whatever its called)
copper flare
Check out professor scalers knife vs pmom video (or „knife is the best melee“ or...
looked it up and showed me shorts
copper flare
Ty ❤️
halcyon leaf
bro can't even spell taught
Insert horse saying man picture here
quick marten
CC: <@429598493460660225>
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier
You nee...
Wow thats a whole lotta formulas in which some that i do not understand and words to read which i have just read
quick marten
Since knifes have a backstab multiplier, how much does it actually multiply?
gusty burrow
Like ur hitting an enemy which is sleeping?
Yah, any enemy that would be a white dot on the bio-tracker counts as 'sleeping'
quick marten
oo
trim sail
In addition, the tiny red dots on the monitor of the bio is "bugged" ones. It's unable to be tagged and you have no idea it's sleeping or aggro
quick marten
If i avoid enemies in a room and a alarm door gets triggered, do they get woken up?
mellow hedge
if enemies scream in the room yeah
theres other stuff like wave enemies breaking doors which wake up enemies and such
but if you are 2 or more rooms away an enemy wont scream in the room
daring ginkgo
In addition, the tiny red dots on the monitor of the bio is "bugged" ones. It's ...
They are usually sleeping, no?
Never saw woken up enemies as small red dots on tracker
mellow hedge
they can be woken
like scouts as well can become bio bugged
and you cant ping them
trim sail
red dots stay for a while, and i don't think there's a way to fix it beside praying the next time you pull out the bio, it returns to normal
sleep or awake, red dots show no difference
but you can identify the awaken one if you see some of the red dots are... moving
it's tiny so... hope you don't have sore eyes lol
mellow hedge
pretty sure it goes away after like 2 mins
quick marten
red dots stay for a while, and i don't think there's a way to fix it beside pray...
It went away once they get triggered, accidentally triggered the enemies and it began function as normal so yea..
Theres that
mellow hedge
if they are bio bugged while sleeping it does fix when they wake up but if they are already awake there is nothing you can do
quick marten
Yea
near stag
<@546465943530897428> wanted to take care of the tank on r5c2 secondary with mel...
Oi Oi, Not my fault that you Guys ran into him when i Said WALK Up to him
copper flare
Oi Oi, Not my fault that you Guys ran into him when i Said WALK Up to him<:REEE:...
MHM, Keep telling yourself that
near stag
I am going to Twist your balls
copper flare
"alright, calm down" - Hackett
hidden flame
so sad that there's no pubs rn
jagged citrus
I am going to Twist your balls
hold on to ur bollocks
shut vapor
Den of Wolves Song goes kinda hard ngl
blissful dome
so sad that there's no pubs rn
Game dead
lusty ibex
solo ?
lusty ibex
solo needs 4 hours
hidden flame
maybe not a free carry if 2 burst sentries and 3 players can't shoot 6 enemies in front of them lol
pallid anvil
maybe not a free carry if 2 burst sentries and 3 players can't shoot 6 enemies i...
they dont wanna wake tank up 🥺
rose nova
man i forgot how good r7d2 is
i am very much not used to play D tiers cause i know im very usual to throw runs n stuff
but it is so fun
blissful dome
maybe not a free carry if 2 burst sentries and 3 players can't shoot 6 enemies i...
Hmmmm
You ok?
Pub suffering?
What does that even mean lmao
robust dawn
it means their bodies get split in half
mellow hedge
There is two teams that have done it 7 players
I NEED A TEAM RAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
junior latch
blissful dome
The fuck
mellow hedge
on surge?
blissful dome
<:d4rkevThink:1168549978885587047>
Eva what was that
mellow hedge
there is no surge scan where they split a lot
junior latch
modding server emote
hidden flame
some players complain instead of shooting enemies
junior latch
being at the top instead of my usual ones
blissful dome
some players complain instead of shooting enemies
Can't look backwards
Physically impossible