gtfo-chat

[analog flicker]

fake. you'd be lower on special because of your hel gun ff

[blissful dome]

<3

Lyt

[analog flicker]

then again

I haven't touched GTFO

in a month or so

[blissful dome]

Hm

[rose nova]

would it be a waste to just replace some images of the wiki with newer ons

most of the guns r the og graphics

[daring ginkgo]

bruh, error alarm on r4a2 already

game please

[rose nova]

C:

[hidden flame]

you innocent child

[blissful dome]

itsok

[blissful dome]

i see pubs struggle with r4a2 like

disproportionately compared to other levels

even other error levels

[daring ginkgo]

it was ok, bad i badly managed ammo amounts, so failed at last task

[blissful dome]

its weird

[hidden flame]

it is a pretty tough A tier

[rose nova]

i mean its very new

[analog flicker]

I die a little inside when I see these R8C1 lobbies

[rose nova]

and tbh its a harder error than like a3

[hidden flame]

r4 is notorious for error alarms

[daring ginkgo]

it main objectives is piss easy

[blissful dome]

[daring ginkgo]

but secondary objectives is where tough part begins

[rose nova]

:D

[blissful dome]

:D

[daring ginkgo]

cluster alarms even more annoying with bots xd

[blissful dome]

fun times

[daring ginkgo]

but i really like this bulkhead mechanic ngl

[blissful dome]

theres a simple solution here

it involves the lfg

[daring ginkgo]

nah, i want to clear it myself first

[blissful dome]

mk

[daring ginkgo]

if mission obviously require multitasking,i will not bother doing it with bots

[analog flicker]

casually locks out overload or secondary because we did it in the wrong order

[blissful dome]

solace a little silly

forgetting order

[analog flicker]

Imean.

I've let newbies just discover things so

unless they ask and don't care for spoilers

[blissful dome]

fair

[daring ginkgo]

i guess difficulty spike on R4 at least mean doing secondary objectives?

[rose nova]

pretty much
most r4 levels are rlly not haard with just main only

some r but others r like fine

[daring ginkgo]

dont tell me all overload objectives include error alarms

[analog flicker]

R4 is in that A/B levels can be difficult

[rose nova]

no no

r4 has a lot tbh, but not every single level is one

[analog flicker]

At least compared to R1/R3

[hidden flame]

hang on, let me count the number of r4 levels with error alarms

[daring ginkgo]

just dont tell me which lvls 😅

[hidden flame]

9 levels

9/13 levels have an error alarm of some kind, have fun!

[daring ginkgo]

jeez

[hidden flame]

it is 13 levels isn't it, i can't remember

[wicked solstice]

12

For R4

[daring ginkgo]

3/4 levels with errors, fun fun

btw, can i get prisoner efficency within 2 separate runs? or i have to do all objectives in 1 run?

[hidden flame]

prisoner efficiency is doing all objectives in the same run

[daring ginkgo]

ok,no cheesing

[blissful dome]

not all

[hidden flame]

so no splitting the optionals between completions

[blissful dome]

both sec and overload

[hidden flame]

all optionals as in main, sec, overload

[blissful dome]

main isnt really optional

[hidden flame]

every objective needs to be present

[blissful dome]

yea

[hidden flame]

yes, and thankfully i did not say all optional objectives for this reason!

[blissful dome]

no its just ive had people call r7d1 pe

[blissful dome]

all optionals as in main sec overload

[hidden flame]

i misspoke

[blissful dome]

sorry

yea

[hidden flame]

all objectives

[blissful dome]

that would make more sense

[hidden flame]

many such cases of goat being stupid with words

[blissful dome]

its ok

it happens

to the best of us

[wicked solstice]

tell that to R8

[daring ginkgo]

time for second try

[blissful dome]

i-

i mean you still get main clear

[lost lynx]

gtfo is bad

hel shotgun is bad

sleepy was right

[blissful dome]

pable copypasta goes hard

[wicked solstice]

Do you tho?

Lemme send you something

[blissful dome]

oh god

[junior latch]

In R4 5 of the 7 overloads start an error in some way

[wicked solstice]

and where Ovl doesn’t secondary has it covered lmao

[blissful dome]

r4 goofy

[junior latch]

well aside from b3

b3 is the only lvl with no true error

[blissful dome]

a bunch of optionals

half of them are errors

[wicked solstice]

So many errors

[blissful dome]

very diverse gameplay experience

[wicked solstice]

R4 moment

It got better

[lost lynx]

dak

Dak

:3

[wicked solstice]

No

[lost lynx]

yes

you know it

:3

[blissful dome]

yes

but

still funny

[wicked solstice]

Only if 8player

[lost lynx]

bet

i just need to find the right people

[wicked solstice]

i basically only do 8p now lmao

8p R6D1 went so hard

[lost lynx]

thats an interesting fact

however

||how broken was it?||

[wicked solstice]

Not at all

We even checkpointed twice

[blissful dome]

m

[lost lynx]

cringe

[blissful dome]

the part where the last 4 people on a team scan cant see its progress?

hm

[wicked solstice]

Tbf we had a completely new player

[lost lynx]

LOL

he had a very interesting first impression

[wicked solstice]

No his first impression was 8p R7D2

[elfin hatch]

Thanks to the help guys. Was about to complete that shit. but died just before excavating

[lost lynx]

uh?

😔

[elfin hatch]

I can sleep better now. Atleast the hard part became relatively easy after the changes people pointed out here.

Was a fun run

[wicked solstice]

It was really funny because we had a random ass tank spawn from the initial cscout waves

[lost lynx]

🤨

[wicked solstice]

we hadn’t reached cell room yet

[lost lynx]

what

[wicked solstice]

As soon as we got through mem stick blood door

We heard a tank

Lmao

GTFO Pro must affect those scout waves too

[lost lynx]

whats next
a nightmare scout spawning a Pmom?

[wicked solstice]

we should test that

Actually, birthers might be interesting themselves

Depending on how 10CC wrote the birther spawns

[lost lynx]

bro

momthers spawning chargers

now that would be funny

[wicked solstice]

i mean, could happen

[lost lynx]

once you test it, tell me the results

im curious

[daring ginkgo]

got on r4a2, that was fun af actually

[shut vapor]

Gz

[daring ginkgo]

i guess error alarms are not so bad, if they are not include charges or giants xd

[lost lynx]

haha

haha

[sharp owl]

this is my face when

[raw shard]

it has been done many many times before

[rose nova]

nomnom onions

<3

onions my beloved

[small berry]

raw or cooked

[rose nova]

both

[alpine scaffold]

make sure to ping me when you do r4c3

[sharp owl]

no

[wild thunder]

unpeeled

[desert sun]

alguien de españa?

[rose nova]

wenas, podei checar #hc-latin-america para un server de gtfo en español [que incluye a españa, es solo más rápido encontrarlo ahí kdmsk]
o si querei buscar gente aqui mismo en este server podei buscar o compartir lobbies en los canales LFG como #lfg-western-europe , nomas siguiendo la guia de como postear mensajes de #how-to-matchmake

[somber vine]

anyone wants to join us

[earnest forge]

Just listening to the end of the speedrun yesterday makes me sleepy, even though I woke up not long ago

[sharp owl]

what lvl

[daring ginkgo]

slow down, i have a lot of missions to do before this, i dont even know, if i can manage to do those with bots 😅

actually, i have a question about r2d2 again, will it be faster, if i just blast zones 193, 194 and 196 ( with first, second terminal and first keycard ) ?

cause later i have to go through them anyway in other zones

[junior latch]

stealth fast and shoot if necessary yes

[daring ginkgo]

because bots cant open boxes/use terminals, so i have to do all this work

i am feeling a bit more confident in loud approach after r3

[small berry]

honestly, i ended up using betterbots bc the bots infuriated me

[junior latch]

[daring ginkgo]

i feel like it will be too much cheesing

i used some mods to make my life a bit easier in Payday 2, but soon realised, that this made game way too easy, so i disabled them

at least bots immune to dot damage, infection and can reliably ping things, will not wake up anything

and can find something like cells, cryo etc with simple command

i cant imagine going stealth through 2 zone full of sleeping chargers in r3d1 with full squad 😂

[junior latch]

honestly its pretty much the same as with bots (you can just kill the enemies tho stealthily) but most experienced players just blast through (which is lots of fun anyway)

[daring ginkgo]

within my 2 attempts on this part, enemies were too close to each other, to kill them without waking up others, only if group in good sync

[junior latch]

you wont be able to melee kill everythig easily
but theres usually lots of free kills (remember proximity aggro range is only within 3 meters)

[daring ginkgo]

btw, charger scouts will call basic enemies? not chargers?

[earnest forge]

For now.

On later levels, Scout waves can vary.

[daring ginkgo]

"nervous sweating"

[junior latch]

its rly just dependent on the level ye
goes for normal scouts too

[small berry]

not 100 percent sure abt the level layout, but if theres a breakable door just cfoam and mine it if you cant clear the room via stealth

its pretty efficient

[daring ginkgo]

first room right after security scan door, no way to foam and mine

[small berry]

ah thats a bitch, youd have to setup a chokepoint instead

[daring ginkgo]

door to second room can be fortified, yeah

[small berry]

would advise running that level with players def

stealth ones are always better done with ppl

[junior latch]

you can always just shoot in the room, then run to a door and foam/mine that

[small berry]

bear in mind hes with 3 bots and bots are uhh not very good at quick reactions

he may need to setup first

[daring ginkgo]

usually all closest doors already broke at that point xd

[daring ginkgo]

and yeah, bots kinda bad vs chargers

[small berry]

also tru

best to run d missions plus with people

[daring ginkgo]

queen mother was kinda underwhelming imo

[small berry]

scattergun?

[daring ginkgo]

after full sweaty progress through level

[blissful dome]

depends on the level

[daring ginkgo]

i used Sawed-Off Shotgun and Arbalist

[blissful dome]

r3d1?

yea

i swear half of my r3d1 pmom kills have just been

running after it

with a hammer

[daring ginkgo]

😂

[small berry]

boink

[daring ginkgo]

sawed off was very good on this lvl vs giants and mother tumors

[brittle mulch]

@untold cypress lmk if you got space next round

[untold cypress]

i can hop on, host

my round disbanded so im just chillin

[hidden flame]

well you must be better than a lot of players then, the amount of times i have had 3 grown men wipe to her is many

[daring ginkgo]

holy shit, all levels with secondary and overload objectives are so huge? i am at r4a3 right before overload door, secondary zone were so large

and in overload area 3 new zones

[junior latch]

depends

some are massive

[daring ginkgo]

yet again error alarm 💀

[junior latch]

some are small

[lost lynx]

some are really small

[hidden flame]

9/12 levels have some sort of endless/error alarm, yes, it is rundown 4

[lusty ibex]

most of R4 are long as I remember

[junior latch]

R4B3, R4C2, R4C3 (kind of) and R4D2 are

[daring ginkgo]

i kinda want to look at guide and spoil my next steps, because if i wipe i have to do this huge lvl again, it is tempting, but i am holding

[junior latch]

everything else is fast or medium honestly

[daring ginkgo]

yeah,i am just exploring all zones, thats why it feels long i think

[junior latch]

you got this
if you go through it again you can get through in 30 min tops until that point

[alpine scaffold]

In R5 it has a secondary objective that is longer than the main one itself

[true pilot]

R5D1 moment

[daring ginkgo]

💀

[lost lynx]

qubert is here

[true pilot]

always have been fool

[lost lynx]

gay

[latent palm]

Silk song coming late 2024

[daring ginkgo]

shit i died

because i wasted time on overload terminal command in stupidest way - i thought i had to type 5156F, turns out it was S156F

fonts sometimes hard to identify, for example 0 and 8

[hidden flame]

use tab to autofill commands like that

instead of typing out whatever garbage the command is

typing out SCCS_LOCAL_TEMP_SET_294_GRAD_INV_FALSE is a bit much

[daring ginkgo]

i can just press tab on terminal, and this command will be automatically written?

[hidden flame]

yes, as long as there is only one unique command with the string of text

[daring ginkgo]

omg

[hidden flame]

e.g. RE will not autofill anything if you are on a terminal with the special command REROUTE_POWER because both that and the READ command start with RE

[daring ginkgo]

will this work on uplink with IP?

[hidden flame]

you would have to type out RER or REA before pressing tab

it does not work with uplink IPs, no

[daring ginkgo]

ok, thanks, nice time save

[true pilot]

i wish

[rose nova]

me when the silk sings instead of song

[rose nova]

:3

[daring ginkgo]

this fucking bots, they refuse to stay in scan on blood door in overload zone 💀

[shut vapor]

[rose nova]

press esc
kick em
add em back in

should be fixed

[daring ginkgo]

Tried, no result

This problem appears only on error alarms? I got a few of those outcomes in r2c2 too

[rose nova]

on errors?
mhh
i never had en not go back into the scan after i banish them

u could do the scan alone

and then add them back after

[daring ginkgo]

Not sure i can survive error enemies + alarm enemies alone in scan, + need some time to enable bots again

I guess i just start this lvl again

[rose nova]

is it r4c1

[daring ginkgo]

R4a3

I dont want to think, if this bug happens on harder lvls later

[rose nova]

oh

mhh

u could always try to verify ur files just in case

and reset gtfo after a lot of attempts

[daring ginkgo]

I once had this bug twice in a row on r2c2, relog in game helped

[rose nova]

sometimes when gtfo its opened too much time it shit itself

[daring ginkgo]

Ofc it happened on good run now 😂

[little ridge]

Bots not entering team scans is kinda common

Either respawn them or kick them, finish scan, respawn them

[rose nova]

it is not that common for em to not obey even after a reset tho

[daring ginkgo]

Devs, fix your game💀

[rose nova]

[aa reset being like kicking em out n stuff]

[rose nova]

tbh its a bug no one knows why it happens

not even modders from what ive heard

which r usually the ones who know whats up

[little ridge]

Only thing I can say is that I dont think I ever saw it happen NOT during alarms (like normal team scans to open unalarmed sec doors)

[daring ginkgo]

I am pretty sure it is connected to error alarms, i never had this in basic scans/alarms

[little ridge]

I've actually seen it A LOT on extraction scans

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, this too

[rose nova]

ive heard of it for non alarms

like the scan in r3a2

[little ridge]

Oh then there's bio bot bugging and not moving at all

[rose nova]

the first one

[little ridge]

But perhaps that's another issue

[daring ginkgo]

But at least you have progress on extraction even if you are alone in scan zone

[rose nova]

on item extracts it doesnt matter so

[little ridge]

it doesn't but it's weird

I always see them TRYING to get in but rubberbanding at the last moment as if they're dancing on the edge

[rose nova]

i dont think thats the scan or the same bug necessarily

i think thats just a quirk of not being able to know the scans there

they rubberband with their movements anywhere

and if u try to force em in with movments they can b in sometimes

[little ridge]

Fun fact is that, the version I tried long ago of better bots didnt fix the issue 😄

[rose nova]

yeah idk i think its a separate thing ksdmkm

idk which one tho

not a pro gamer

[daring ginkgo]

if i kick bot and add him again, how many resources he will have? 50-60% with full hp, like in start of lvl or same amount when bot was kicked?

[rose nova]

im actually not so sure
think it resets em

but i am not sure at all

[lost lynx]

i think HP stays the same

and ammo resets

[hidden flame]

i know for players they keep everything

bot ammo resets from what i have heard, cannot remember about consumables they are carrying

[lost lynx]

they are gone

consumables dissappear

[noble hollow]

have anyone here use cloudflare 1111 ?

i use it cause its adverise for faster connection

after using it for a while i dont see it getting faster instead it slower

[little ridge]

99% of those things are bogus

whenever they say it's "faster"

[magic escarp]

The cloudflare DNS?

[noble hollow]

yeah

[magic escarp]

It's a DNS server, it doesn't change your connection

[little ridge]

IT EITHER helps you connect to something you are not supposed to (bypassing country restrictions and whatnot) or it doesn't help at all regarding speed/stability

[magic escarp]

The goal of a DNS is so when you ask to go to "google.com" it will know what IP is behind the name google.com

[little ridge]

Packet routing is 99% your ISP

[magic escarp]

Yeah it's mostly useful against censoring AND for preventing ISP from knowing what sites you're looking to directly

Especially if you use cloudflare DoH (DNS over HTTP) which makes reverse DNS impossible for ISP

[noble hollow]

well it does help me access to steam cause my country block it

[little ridge]

supposedly yeah, I always smirk at those things since I feel like it moves the problem further down the pipeline rather than actually protect my privacy

[little ridge]

well then slow steam beats no steam at all

[magic escarp]

I mean, you can keep smirking

DNS censorship is easy for states

[rose nova]

i like smirks they cool

[noble hollow]

my friend said that buy game using vpn can get my account ban

[magic escarp]

But IP censoring is much harder

[little ridge]

SOME people use VPNs to spoof their country so they can pay less VAT

basically cheaper games

[magic escarp]

jhqzzfvjhqvh

omg that's genius

VAT fraud?

😭

[little ridge]

I'm pretty sure that's illegal but whatever

[little ridge]

I mean, there's a reason why games in ARG cost so little compared to, I dunno, SWI

[noble hollow]

better safe than cheap shortcut

[little ridge]

I said VAT but you know what I mean

[magic escarp]

Ooh

Ok yes yes

Yes I see

Sorry I take things literally

fjkbqzbf

[little ridge]

On the other hand if your country blocks X, you're not supposed to get in X even with a VPN

[magic escarp]

But yeah no DNS is simply for not being blocked by ISPs easily

[little ridge]

it's all fine

[small berry]

like germany, im pretty sure they blocked a load of certian games but ppl still use vpns to access them

[magic escarp]

I would just change country tbf

[little ridge]

Personally I HATE CENSORSHIP because I am an adult and the state has no business policing me

[small berry]

im more of a "depends on the censorship" kinda guy
but the ban was kinda uncalled for

[hidden flame]

i believe that the regular left4dead2 is banned in germany and you cannot get it on steam

[junior latch]

yesnt

[hidden flame]

some stuff is stupid though

[junior latch]

the laws are more lax nowadays

[small berry]

i did not know that
i was referring to nsfw games lol

[junior latch]

like you can actually get access

but its super convoluted

and often theres still censorship

[hidden flame]

reminds me of an old frank zappa tv interview

[junior latch]

where as before you couldnt get them at all

[small berry]

laws here are just conflicting af

kinda funny

[junior latch]

dead space 2 legit wasnt available until EA had it on origin

[little ridge]

Were they afraid you guys would worship an alien monolith?

[lost lynx]

they want to stop the convergence

[junior latch]

it was around gore scenes

[lost lynx]

😔

[junior latch]

like the one where the eye gets stabbed

[lost lynx]

damn
thats the best scene in the whole game

[hidden flame]

you must have a pretty good horror movie selection then

[junior latch]

they dont care about horror movies

games had this whole "killerspiele" or "killer games" monicer

it was absolutely stupid

[hidden flame]

ah, irrationality

[junior latch]

there were legit fake studies in the news

it was insane

[noble hollow]

"censorships are for the sake of protecting children", is the rating not enough sign that children should fuck off form accessing it

[small berry]

i hate that stuff

like, your adults at that point

[noble hollow]

ok maybe children can access by simple lies

[hidden flame]

some stuff should be closer monitored yes, but responsibility can be more easily taken up by a childs parent than the government

parental controls do exist already

[junior latch]

eh games are played by people 12-18 a bunch

csgo and cod were major focal points

[noble hollow]

but what children doing on the internet should be supervise by adult

internet is somewhat like a playground

[small berry]

i would disagree tbh, i know loads of kids that play gta and stuff and parents just dont care

[junior latch]

someone aged 14 is a child
but they shouldnt need adult supervision

they just need to know what to do

[little ridge]

Not gonna lie, children shouldn't have access to the internet period

[junior latch]

games never were the reason for children to turn violent

if kids acted violent due to them they generally already had anger issues

[small berry]

internet ruined me at 14, i can totally agree

[noble hollow]

its alway real life bullshiterry

[hidden flame]

oh yes i am very much in agreement, if i had a child i would not let them onto the internet until they were older

[junior latch]

but what is the cut off?
10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ?

[hidden flame]

i want to say something but it is not easier to phrase it how i want to

[little ridge]

any cutoff is better than no cutoff at all

[hidden flame]

25% of children ages 5-7 have a smartphone in the UK

[small berry]

this will bankrupt lankybox

[junior latch]

its basically impossible to enforce anyway

[small berry]

this is true

the uk is royally fucked when it comes to internet usage

[shut vapor]

I didn't get my first phone (not even a smartphone) until i was 11 :')

[junior latch]

lg touch at 10
smartphone at 12-13

[small berry]

i think i did at 10... or 11 not 100 percent suree
but google family link prevented me from searching up boobies on google

[lost lynx]

😔

[shut vapor]

This is so sad

[small berry]

this is how i turned gay

fr

[hidden flame]

boobs are overrated anyway

[shut vapor]

Idk i like them

[small berry]

tru

[hidden flame]

but maybe that is just because an unhealthy obsession is placed on womens bodies

[noble hollow]

your opinion from now on doesn't matter anymore

[small berry]

the amount of times i had ppl in my old school airdrop nsfw...

ugh

[noble hollow]

women bodies as a whole is beautiful

[hidden flame]

yeeeep

[shut vapor]

Your first mistake was using an iphone

[small berry]

happy i never owned a iphone but i still got my phone looked thru

[shut vapor]

Well maybe not back in the day

[noble hollow]

except for those who not

[hidden flame]

i had a story of someone at my university that when they were in high school someone sent a bad pic to a girl, which got circulated around everyone in the entire year

[shut vapor]

They used to be reasonably priced

[noble hollow]

wrong reply

[hidden flame]

the guy ended up going back to his home country

[small berry]

poor guy

[shut vapor]

Censored :(

[small berry]

like... at that age sendin pics to someone u like is ok, u just need to be careful who

[hidden flame]

i mean

if you are a child i would not be taking any illicit pictures at all

[shut vapor]

I wouldn't dare send it to anyone at that age 💀

[hidden flame]

recipe for disaster

[small berry]

i thought they were in uni?

[hidden flame]

ok so i am at uni, it was a story of another student when they were at high school

[shut vapor]

No child is smart enough or considerate enough to realise the implications of sharing pictures like that

[hidden flame]

so the person would have been 11-16 years old

[small berry]

oh mb

no def not

[junior latch]

bruh

[small berry]

im currently in last year of secondary and this shit gets circulated around way too much

[junior latch]

why is someone trying to tell me auto sentry kills more efficiently than burst

[hidden flame]

because it has back damage!

[junior latch]

(they dont know about that)

[small berry]

they are lying its clearly only the shotgun sentry :3

[hidden flame]

where is the person in question

[pine root]

it is

if pen hit every time

[shut vapor]

While i feel bad for the person, it should serve as a warning not to do it

[pine root]

and every bullt hits

[junior latch]

shotgun sentry is in the limbo of being technically weirldy efficient but also just not working well

[small berry]

not saying i do, but only person i trust with that is bf
nobody else

[junior latch]

@pine root

1. PLAY YOU DINGUS
2. yea but whats the accuracy% on hel auto again

they come with the 600 dmg per refill vs 514 argument
ignoring its accuracy and its worse precision multi

[shut vapor]

I wouldn't even trust my partner

[small berry]

had a game of r5c1 and one person brought a hel auto
we lost

[shut vapor]

Paranoid mf :(

[pine root]

60%

[small berry]

nah paranoias fine :3

[pine root]

or worse

[junior latch]

i mean, you can clear every level with any tool (not with every weapon + tool combo maybe )

[small berry]

it was the hel auto

the mobs saw it and sent double

[junior latch]

but hel auto sentry and shotgun sentry just arent it

hey at least hel auto works well for its purpose. It just isnt needed usually

[shut vapor]

Hel auto would not be enough to throw r5c1

[hidden flame]

but it does not exactly help

[small berry]

we ran out of tool refill

[junior latch]

4 hel autos facing you for back damage on the s1

[small berry]

i reckon ik why

[junior latch]

thats the strat

i can feel it

[hidden flame]

i think i would rather use a sniper sentry perfectly positioned to shoot me

more impact

[shut vapor]

Gave it all to the bio

[small berry]

i gave all my ammo to the guy with the bullpup rifle

[hidden flame]

big mistake

[small berry]

best investment of my l;ife

[hidden flame]

never give your ammo to the bullpup user

or the machine gun player

[small berry]

or the slug shotgun

[shut vapor]

Or the hel revo

[small berry]

depends if they can aim

[hidden flame]

carbine players are pubs

[small berry]

cant believe this

im a pub

[shut vapor]

that's it I'm going back to ar

[hidden flame]

i am sorry for your loss

[small berry]

im going back to the pub to cry about being a pub

(english language at its finest)

[hidden flame]

in loadout randomiser r4c3 i ended up with carbine hel rifle, strong guns but i refused the pub loadout

i will not become a pub

instead i got to use burst pistol :)

[small berry]

i like burst pistol

but ok whats your weapon of choice

[hidden flame]

that gun is way too small

i do not know how anyone enjoys it

[small berry]

dont judge on size smh

[hidden flame]

hel revo, pdw, dmr are probably the main 3

[junior latch]

i just realized

artek is no longer here

[hidden flame]

it is not my fault that a microgun is unfulfilling whichever way you use it

[small berry]

ok i like pdw but i get called a skill issue bc everyone says its a smg with a thermal

[junior latch]

artek enjoyed it

[junior latch]

powerwise? yes it is
thermal can be strong tho

[small berry]

im one of those weird ppl who find it easier to use a weapon if i like the scope

both the pdw and presicion rifle have nice recticles plus thermal

[shut vapor]

You'd be great at the sniper

[trail swift]

guys i have problem when game start we keep go down infinity and game never starts any one know solution ?

[shut vapor]

Verify your game files and make sure you are all on the same version of the game

[hidden flame]

connection issue with someone, you can try any combination to find who has the problematic connection

[shut vapor]

And try a different host

[hidden flame]

otherwise have lobby host drop down first and load the level, then everybody else can join

[trail swift]

we tried all of this sadly

[small berry]

i dont mind sniper lol

it feels like a longrange scattergun

[trail swift]

i cant get u

can we join the host after game starts ?

[shut vapor]

Yes

[trail swift]

how ?

[hidden flame]

...

[shut vapor]

Steam invite, or message the lobby code?

[hidden flame]

by using the lobby code or joining normally

it is not rocket science

[trail swift]

ok thanks guys

[pastel dagger]

next year overload?

[small berry]

real

[mellow hedge]

its joever

[stable copper]

was good run

[earnest forge]

Very well done anyway, for (I believe) a first recorded attempt ever, you almost made it.

[shut vapor]

What was the final time

Wait what happened

[pine root]

we ran out of time

after an r8d2 wipe

bread cant contuine

the run is over

[shut vapor]

With just 2 expeditions left

[mellow hedge]

10cc when they make a good design idea but fucking annoying spawns

guys lets put normals AND nightmares AND hybrids AND flyers on a scan where you have to be split AND one scan goes right in front of the door

[lost lynx]

so Frosty

tell me

how did it went?

[mellow hedge]

went good until it didnt

[lost lynx]

elaborate

[lost lynx]

😔

[shut vapor]

It'd be too simple to just use strikers and hybrids :D

[mellow hedge]

na fuck the fucking flyers

stupid fucking place for them

[stable copper]

when you on the flight there tell them to their face hehe

[lost lynx]

🤨

[pine root]

it is a fun scan

We come back to finish the run next week team

[mellow hedge]

its not an official run but we have segments so you all can try and beat it 😄

[shut vapor]

Thats too much gameplay for me 😔

[junior latch]

24h time to beat

[shut vapor]

[junior latch]

Hm

An idea would be how botw did it

@mellow hedge i cant find borderlands 2 tho

[mellow hedge]

its not a speedrun category but it still stands

for game runs streaming isnt an unusual thing

[junior latch]

Isnt unusual

but not always the case

Honestly i rly like the botw sleep rules tho

[mellow hedge]

yeah they are pretty good

[daring ginkgo]

bruh,wtf is this random mother on r4b1

[blissful dome]

oh thats the level

ty

id been wondering which one it was

[daring ginkgo]

secondary mission 10x longer than main

reactor def is

[junior latch]

Also @mellow hedge i think if we enforce the „permanent recording“ for at least 1 perspective then thats essentially a streaming rule

[mellow hedge]

yeah but i think streaming rule is better than permanent recording

because they can record and clip if its not permanent but you cant like rerun for a good run while streaming

[daring ginkgo]

i entered in last zone for generator code, saw those tumors everywere and thought "Not now", because i had 01:30 mins left and low ammo

[blissful dome]

sucks

[daring ginkgo]

i died

[junior latch]

Record and clip?

[mellow hedge]

Like if its recorded then yeah they could just record, run until they get a good level run the splice it

You cant do that with streaming

[junior latch]

We can check for splices with logs tbf

if they arent doing it in a break

[mellow hedge]

they just reset after each level

[junior latch]

and theyd still have to end their break during that distance

[junior latch]

theres still an actual clock time

[mellow hedge]

yeah

fair

[junior latch]

Continous recording basically indiciates streaming anyway

subathon for gtfo speed kek

[mellow hedge]

i think streaming is better tho

you dont have to have storage

its obv live

[junior latch]

just a note

you could always just pre record the run (and splice if wanted) then stream that

Then upload the stream. Because you dont have to notify verifiers whether you are running this

(Having to do that would be insanely stupid for both parties)

[mellow hedge]

ig

[junior latch]

Anyway

Go to sleep

[mellow hedge]

no

im eating

[shut vapor]

[daring ginkgo]

i just realised,i can sneak past mother in r4b1,if i had more time, cause she is sleeping

[shut vapor]

You can even sneak up to the mother and kill her

[daring ginkgo]

naah, i had low ammo after 5 waves of gen def

i dont want to chase mother through full zone and wake up more other enemies

[shut vapor]

[fossil horizon]

2 scattergun shots 3 for host

[shut vapor]

They changed that

its the same

[daring ginkgo]

if i foam sleeping enemy, will he wake up?

[fossil horizon]

Same now? So 2 shots for host, even better

[daring ginkgo]

after foam expires

[shut vapor]

He will stay asleep if he was asleep before

[fossil horizon]

No if it doesn't take damage during that time

[daring ginkgo]

cause i saw some foam grenades in nearby zones

ok,i will try tomorrow

[fossil horizon]

Foam mother and kill her

[daring ginkgo]

can i hit her with melee to death, until foam expires? and will bots help me, if i attack foamed mother?

[shut vapor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You can melee to kill her but idk if you'd have enough time without refoaming

[fossil horizon]

Without reforming no, bots won't help i think

Never meleed foamed mother with bots

[junior latch]

Uhm

Not rly sadly

You can technically 2 shot mom with scatter as host

but its just not likely

[daring ginkgo]

i think bots will not attack, cause technically mother is not in wake up state while foamed

[junior latch]

what guns do you have?

[daring ginkgo]

sawed off shotgun and vertuga

[junior latch]

If you cfoam grenade her you can basically freely kill her then

[fossil horizon]

Technically foamed enemy can be tagged with bio but it's not wake up for bots to damage it

[junior latch]

also its not like she will sprint out of that room

Shes way more likely to start birthing and then run around

[junior latch]

Big brain. Shoot and insta foam

[fossil horizon]

She will try to birth and start to run into corner of room

[fossil horizon]

So bots can melee, true big brain

[daring ginkgo]

that was my first attempt on that lvl anyway, i just did not expect to meet mother in secondary finale

[daring ginkgo]

true 😂

hate reactor def lvls

[junior latch]

They are rly fun most of the time

probably less so with bots

Since micromanaging sucks

[daring ginkgo]

yeah, with other players it might be fun

but with bots

[fossil horizon]

Unless you need to pass captcha on reactor terminal

[small berry]

they replace the security keys with click the squares with cars

[fossil horizon]

Count squares were actually a hack lock mechanic in pre historic times

[daring ginkgo]

why there are so low % of people, who got achievements? players just try to play in multi immediately, fail miserably, cause they think this is just FPS and drop this game? 😅

[rose nova]

the achievements were added abour 6 months ago only too, this is a 4 year old game
sopeople who played it before but then not on the 6 months dont have any

[daring ginkgo]

lmao, so late

[shut vapor]

If they open it again and beat a mission, they'll grab a fair few

[stable copper]

i wonder if there is anyway to lock main menu screen to like 60fps

[little ridge]

V-sync should do that too

[stable copper]

oh

[little ridge]

I mean it does on my end

IF you have the game pump the GPU usage when you open menu or open the map on ANY level, that's some bug I also have that I've never been able to pinpoint

[hidden flame]

any fps cap applies to the menu, as well as the rest of the game, yes

[stable copper]

-50% gpu usage when vsync on nice

[little ridge]

But it ain't due to fps, or if it was, nor even hardlocking it via nvidia solved it

[stable copper]

not really when open thing, it just uncap fps that hoard all the gpu usage kek

vsync on fixed it

[little ridge]

yes

Because your PC tries to pump as many frames as it can

(it's many, not much in this case right? because frames are a countable entity?)

[stable copper]

my brain too fried to understand your last comment. 🤔

[little ridge]

I dont know if, in that phrase, it's gramatically correct to use MANY or MUCH

I think it's MANY

[stable copper]

i guess its many since you can see the actual numbers

[lethal juniper]

What do you guys think is the best way to get into this game if I have never played before? I tried last night, matchmaking was terrible. I have yet to play a single mission, and the game looks fun.

[lost lynx]

play the first mission alone with bots

it will give you time to adjust to the game by yourself

then do all of the rundowns in order

if you get stuck on a level skip to the next rundown

also .t lfg

[thick temple]

imo first know roughly what you're getting into, the game gets hard
if you can find a group of friends who are down to commit to it then get them
else, like pable said

[lost lynx]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[blissful dome]

are you using discord lfgs or in game matchmaking

dont use in game matchmaking

[lost lynx]

(you will most likely get stuck on R2 beacause the game gets really really hard a couple times)

[lethal juniper]

I havent tried discord yet, but was hesitant because I havent played a single game yet

[lost lynx]

then i recommend doing what i said

[blissful dome]

use the discord

[lost lynx]

do the first level (R1A1) alone < with bots

so you can feel the game

[blissful dome]

pable is so boring

[lost lynx]

and take your time

[lethal juniper]

Okay

[blissful dome]

PABLE RECOMMENDING TRUE SOLO CONFIRMED

TO A NEW PLAYER

[lost lynx]

?

are you alright?

[blissful dome]

no

[lost lynx]

did you hit your head?

[blissful dome]

please help

[shut vapor]

True solo

[lost lynx]

true solo sucks

[lost lynx]

playing with bots is more fun

[blissful dome]

pable wants the new player true solo

insane misinfo

confirmed

[lost lynx]

hel revolver is the worst gun

:D

[shut vapor]

This isnt misinfo

its fact

[lost lynx]

🤨

[shut vapor]

[blissful dome]

[blissful dome]

^^

[lethal juniper]

So comm the bots in mission 1?

[shut vapor]

Take the bots with you :D

[lost lynx]

add the :3 to the ammopack

[shut vapor]

They will help

[blissful dome]

i cant i dont have mod privileges so i cant add it >:C

[lost lynx]

bad IFO

:3

[blissful dome]

:|

angary

[little ridge]

Yes. In case you're worried, bots cant wake anything up no matter what

[little ridge]

Even if they shoot

[blissful dome]

the mine:

[little ridge]

You do not have that luxury so watch out

[little ridge]

the yours

[blissful dome]

aw

ty

[lost lynx]

the ours

[lethal juniper]

Alright, do I have to com every thing they do?

[little ridge]

Nah

[blissful dome]

i do not currently own a sickle

[lost lynx]

no

only if you want them to use tools

[blissful dome]

only tools

[lethal juniper]

So in theory is playing with bots really that bad?

[blissful dome]

besides bio

[daring ginkgo]

Just command them to use tools

[lost lynx]

not really

[little ridge]

Everything that ain't ordering them to place/use their tools, other than bio, doesn't work

[blissful dome]

its

better than nothing

[lost lynx]

they do well on lower tiers

[little ridge]

It's fantastic

[hidden flame]

comm menu is only to get them to place down/pick up tools, and to make them follow the other players if there are multiple in a lobby

[blissful dome]

^

[lost lynx]

wtf is that licker

man

sus

[stable copper]

[shut vapor]

[blissful dome]

licker why would you do this

[lethal juniper]

Alright I guess ill try that out then; thanks alot guys

[lost lynx]

what GTFO does to a mf

[shut vapor]

do what

[blissful dome]

happy hunting

[blissful dome]

do me~

sorry

[lost lynx]

get ready to die

a lot

[daring ginkgo]

I enjoy playing with bots, cause i am improving through game, because i have to do all decisions by myself and i am not getting carried by more experienced players, although sometimes bots pissed me off, but it is fair for higher difficulty missions

[blissful dome]

^

gtfo isnt very learning curve

[lethal juniper]

Gotcha

[daring ginkgo]

It feels very good, when you can clear hard lvl with bots

[lost lynx]

r4c3 PE when

:3

[pine root]

You can play most levels with bots some of the e tiers require one other player no cheese

[daring ginkgo]

Soon, i am on r4b1

[lost lynx]

oh god

good luck

[blissful dome]

r8e2 bots when

[lethal juniper]

and how long did it take to get to that point

[daring ginkgo]

100h

[lethal juniper]

sheeesh

[blissful dome]

wait did you do everything before r4?

[daring ginkgo]

I just spend some time on exploring

[lost lynx]

you will spend a lot of time dying and dying over and over again

[pine root]

That is pretty quick ngl

[lost lynx]

so

:D

[hidden flame]

in the grand scheme of things 100 hours is not much for this game

[blissful dome]

yea

[daring ginkgo]

Almost, and some r6 missions on multi

[blissful dome]

you did r2e1 with bots?

[lethal juniper]

Darksaid222 did you do all of that with the bots

[lost lynx]

i have 300 hours and i still have like 50% of the game left

amazing

[blissful dome]

pable throwing

[daring ginkgo]

I missing only r2d2 and r2e1

[blissful dome]

oh

it makes sense now

[lost lynx]

oh yikes

[blissful dome]

lmao skipping e1

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah

[pine root]

Na makes sense

[hidden flame]

i have almost 1600 hours, not much left to conquer in the base game so i have moved on to some more exotic stuff

[blissful dome]

skipping d2

[pine root]

Those two are very hard

[blissful dome]

^

[lethal juniper]

You give me hope

[blissful dome]

"exotic" its just mods

[daring ginkgo]

Bots is really bad at multitasking

[lost lynx]

sometimes they refuse to carry the cell

[daring ginkgo]

They cant use terminals, open boxes

[lost lynx]

😔

[blissful dome]

bots when in combat

[pine root]

They can’t carry objects Is the biggest issue

[daring ginkgo]

They just follow you

They can wat

[hidden flame]

exotic is mods, speedruns, and going on campaigns of terror against innocent gtfo discord users

[lost lynx]

even OUTSIDE of combat those mfs just say: no

[hidden flame]

that last part is a joke, by the way

[pine root]

R2d2 is pretty doable

[blissful dome]

see

[lost lynx]

speedruns
cringe

[blissful dome]

criminal

confirmed

[pine root]

Solo bots

[blissful dome]

smh

[daring ginkgo]

They cant carry, when alarm going

[blissful dome]

^

its a lot easier than e1

[lost lynx]

carry the bots

easy

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, i am not gave up just yet on this lvl with bots

[pine root]

Download better bots and put in aim bot

[daring ginkgo]

Boo

[blissful dome]

woah

[lost lynx]

cringe

banned

[blissful dome]

illegal mods suggested?

[lost lynx]

nuked

[blissful dome]

reported

banned

[lost lynx]

keep yourself safe

[pine root]

You don’t like bots being unleashed okay

[lost lynx]

can i post loss @pine root ?

[pine root]

Yes

[pine root]

Go ahead

[daring ginkgo]

My average time per lvl is like 1h, if i doing it for first time

[stable copper]

i just realised normal bot cant teleport if they stuck, only with betterbot

[pine root]

Fuck yiu I hate you

[lethal juniper]

🫡

[daring ginkgo]

Cause i explore every zone basically

[lost lynx]

fuck me yourself you coward

[pine root]

Good interaction need a new 🆕 one everyday

[pine root]

To real your ghosted now

[blissful dome]

WOAH

[lost lynx]

IFO

why are you supprised

thats not even near the worst thing i have said

[blissful dome]

:D

[stable copper]

what is the worst thing you said before ?

[lost lynx]

search it

:3

[stable copper]

um any keyword ?

[lost lynx]

no

[stable copper]

you have 959 pages of text in this server

[lethal juniper]

wish me luck chat

🙏

[stable copper]

good luck

test every tool when you can, so you know the basic of what those do

[blissful dome]

good luck

hey

[lethal juniper]

gotcha

[blissful dome]

you should try to find the worst thing ive said :3

i dont even know what it is

[lost lynx]

sentry = shoots
bio= pings
mine = boom
foam = blob

those are the tools

[hidden flame]

i am not sure what the worst thing i have said is

[lethal juniper]

foam = blob

[stable copper]

you have 100+ more pages than pablex

[hidden flame]

probably when i was still talking in half broken english, lol

[blissful dome]

:D

[hidden flame]

it builds character

[blissful dome]

no problem

[lethal juniper]

darksaid what tool do you use when you solo w bots

[lost lynx]

oh i know

[blissful dome]

^^^

no you dont pable

shut up

[daring ginkgo]

Btw, use bio tracker, it is really good to see enemies in map

[lost lynx]

a bot with bio is better

they can instantly ping

[stable copper]

bots using bio tracker is OP

[hidden flame]

bot biotracker is overrated

[blissful dome]

i mean

[stable copper]

bring one yourself too

[daring ginkgo]

I use bio on bot on lvl with error alarms only basically

[stable copper]

:)

[blissful dome]

its better than pub bio

overall

[hidden flame]

that does not mean anything though

[blissful dome]

though i guess the bot itself is better than a pub

[lost lynx]

you just said

the p word

[daring ginkgo]

Or on gen defend lvls

[blissful dome]

</3

[stable copper]

i had a guy complaining my friend scan way slower than the bots.... little did he know

[little ridge]

Let me put it this way: if you need to buff sentries a lot OR to get a lot of ping because visibility is bad, then bio bot is fantastic

If you need more than that a human will suffice

On the other hand, consider this

When I give a bot a bio, the damage drops

DRASTICALLY

we're talking around 1.2k for sentry bot compared to 400-600 for bio bot

let's be generous and say that 200-300 of that is sentry

that's still 300 more on just the bot being able to shoot more

[blissful dome]

C foam bot when

[little ridge]

I'm using half-remembered numbers from R2B1

I think, not too sure, I could test again

Point being that bot with bio shoots less

[stable copper]

ive never seen cfoam bot before

[daring ginkgo]

I used c foam on bots sometimes, its not that bad, although sometimes they miss their foam

[stable copper]

either sentry or bio thats it

[little ridge]

THAT being said I'd rather give the bot a bio than a mine deployer

[blissful dome]

I'm pretty sure the bio matters more for new players though

[analog flicker]

C foam bot. you have to check the bots postiion before telling them to shoot it

but even then bot cfoam * is tedious

[little ridge]

I mean, it depends

Especially for a new player

[stable copper]

spray everywhere

[little ridge]

since they aren't familiar with stealth

[blissful dome]

C foam bot when door is around a corner

[little ridge]

They might want to have bio to have more of a view of what to kill and when

[blissful dome]

C foam bot when they aren't perfectly facing the door at a 90 degree angle

[blissful dome]

Fair

[stable copper]

kill me

[blissful dome]

Ok

[lost lynx]

on my way

[daring ginkgo]

Is it even worth to have bio tracker on r2d2? Maybe i should just go crazy and use 4 burst turrets

[blissful dome]

I mean

Itl work

Just not sure if 4 sentries will perform wildly better than 3

[stable copper]

wew for scouts i guess

[wraith marsh]

bios always good

you dont have tool for 4 sentries

[blissful dome]

^

[daring ginkgo]

Fair...

[lethal juniper]

when playing solo with bots, whats the best tool to run yourself, and your team/

[daring ginkgo]

Argh, that r4b1 made me angry again, cause r2d2 flashbacks

[wraith marsh]

if youre running foam

you take the foam

if not you take the mines

[latent palm]

Hello chill

[lost lynx]

one bot bio
2 sentries
and mines

that ususally works pretty well

[daring ginkgo]

I used bio tracker to know location of enemies for stealth kills and 3 turrets for bots, but more optimal will be 2 turrets and miner i think

[stable copper]

what man, go to bed

[latent palm]

Frame data isnt updated yet

[stable copper]

this game has friendly fire btw

so does mine

[daring ginkgo]

Yeah, bots just LOVE to stand in your line of fire

[latent palm]

Theyre slow

Its just an acceptance now

[daring ginkgo]

Gen def levels have approximately same AMOUNT of enemies per wave?

Or depends?