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#gtfo-chat
burnt flume
abstract torrent
glacial anvil
true
glacial anvil
even then GTFO is worth the full price
True
bright pier
anyone know how to fix terminal interact bugs ?
lost lynx
its fucked
bright pier
the run?
lost lynx
if the terminal is necessary to complete an objective
yeah
pure dew
So, after messing with the Hel shotty some more, I see why folks like it; it's basically a combat shotty with less per pellet damage and a lot more stagger (and pen).
thanks for those who were hard recommending it to me. I may not run it a lot, as I like a lot of different primaries, but it's really good
burnt flume
don't you mean hel shotgun?
sharp owl
How much money would you want in exchange for going through what our prisoners went
burnt flume
hel gun is a very different thing to combat shotgun
lost lynx
How much money would you want in exchange for going through what our prisoners w...
you mean going across different dimensions?
sharp owl
How much money would you want in exchange for going through what our prisoners w...
Survival is guaranteed if you make it to the end
sharp owl
you mean going across different dimensions?
I mean surviving theu the game basically
Through
You keep all your knowledge
burnt flume
you know I don't think I'd take any amount of money to lose all my memories, all my hopes and dreams, and be stuck hammer kiting mutated humans deep underground where it's miserable
sharp owl
I feel like you want to
burnt flume
maybe ask me again when the year is 2055 or whenever GTFO is set, might have a change of heart then
pure dew
don't you mean hel shotgun?
whoops, yeah I meant to type hel shotty
fixed
sharp owl
you know I don't think I'd take any amount of money to lose all my memories, all...
Rules
You wake up as yourself in r1a1
You have to complete all mains all the way to r8e1
You do not have dementia, you are yourself.
You keep all knowledge about the game world
lost lynx
Rules
You wake up as yourself in r1a1
You have to complete all mains all the way...
but we die on R8E1
🤨
sharp owl
Once finished, you are teleported safely back into a comfy pre made bed in your room
Yeah
But In this hypothetical you don't
You reach that room and win
Personally i don't think anyone could do it
So this entire question is stupid
Cuz you'd die on some e level
sharp owl
Do you like having a stuffy nose
And struggling to breathe
Do you like having an itch on your cheek but not being able to get it
This will be your life
Holy shit im a god lol
Mosquito landed on my phone screen and i smashed that shit
pine root
So, after messing with the Hel shotty some more, I see why folks like it; it's b...
Yes it is disgusting right
mellow hedge
very bad gun wouldnt recommend especially when fighting pmom
pine root
very bad gun wouldnt recommend especially when fighting pmom
We keep getting 21 min times btw
pine root
Yes hub zone has just gotten more fucked with more clears
mellow hedge
Ah okay
pine root
We were on pace for a sub 20 but then a hybrid on final surge ended up losing 45 seconds
With a two down clutch
pine root
Why?
Wasn’t charger
It was first key grab
I think we had a up top j key
Which is our latest
gusty burrow
It'll come, just a matter of all the pieces falling in place in the same run
Lots of very good performances in each section, just a matter of combining them
For sub 19 that is, sub 20 can have like 2 mediocre sections or 1 bad one and with some good other sections and a little rng it'll happen
sharp owl
god damn no good speedrunners
mystic moss
gtfo-chat was better when you were gone
wraith marsh
begone sleepyboi alt
sharp owl
pine root
begone sleepyboi alt
join
sharp owl
gtfo-chat was better when you were gone
tbh i actually doubt that since the time that I was gone, sleepyboi was here
lost lynx
||gtfo chat is better||
sharp owl
general chat is better
mellow hedge
tbh i actually doubt that since the time that I was gone, sleepyboi was here
Truest statement ever written 🥹
nimble pumice
queen galleon
if i was the boss of 10 chambers i would collab with fortnite and make the 4 prisoners to become fortnite avatars
with the 4 sledgehammers as new melee weapons
nimble pumice
wow that's actually a great idea
let's get on that
@10chamber s can you guys get on it?
queen galleon
idk they too bussy working on something called den of reddit users
mellow hedge
idk they too bussy working on something called den of reddit users
they too what?
nimble pumice
they are
nimble pumice
you are the bussy
white ether
i can literally play the shooter room alert scream in my head perfectly what does this mean bros
mellow hedge
Its fucking over mate
pine root
guys
why do the sleepers
(the sleepers)
not wake up
when they are in a lit room
please i need to know
soft wave
very deep sleep
wispy bluff
A plothole, that one is.
Flashlight, not work must either.
To be fair you don't resummon the horde every time you shoot a gun in L4D either, even though the guns are louder than any of the crescendo events.
We'll just have to let it slide.
mellow hedge
Could be different types of lights
wispy bluff
That's stupid
For a simple reason that it means that the lads should ditch the flashlights and rip off lanterns from the walls and just attach them to their guns. Surely warden would be prudenes enough to catch that.
The best steel man is that they react to sudden changes of light, but that doesn't explain rooms with flickering lights.
elfin pasture
Maybe being in their rooms long enough has dulled them to the lights in them
elfin pasture
We introduce a change so they sense it
mellow hedge
They have been in there so long
Its like being in a cold shower
You get used to it eventually
elfin pasture
True
mellow hedge
They cant be angry all the time
elfin pasture
They gotta eep
analog flicker
To be fair you don't resummon the horde every time you shoot a gun in L4D either...
shoots a car with flickering lights
Ah shit
snow violet
gaunt lichen
A plothole, that one is.
Flashlight, not work must either.
Could just be photosensitive, a sudden change in light (say a strong flashlight) would be felt on the skin. And you can fall asleep with lights on, albeit it isn't pleasant.
wispy bluff
ya all are playing the wrong game
Too busy finishing elden ring. Also came back to Team Fortress 2. Dragon's Fury sucks so much ass I can't believe it
glacial anvil
Herro
quartz cape
automatons are fighting back
holy shit i dont care
pallid anvil
follow the LFG rules
MIC REQUIRED
pallid anvil
I’m so silly :3
lost lynx
gtfo is bad
quasi pine
***MIC REQUIRED***
is it a crime to want to be able to talk with my teammates
pallid anvil
Meow I’m silly :3
quasi pine
meaningless
peak anchor
Do you all have stockholm syndrom, why does everybody seem to hate GTFO?
lost lynx
gtfo is bad
peak anchor
desert widget
trying to do all of R4 with 
rose nova
trying to do all of R4 with <:prisonerefficiency:768796112219144216>
it goes wee
and [error alarm sounds]
rose nova
luckily the d tiers and some c tiers r more fun :D
except for c2
c2 goes [an hour and a half of nothin]
quasi pine
Do you all have stockholm syndrom, why does everybody seem to hate GTFO?
erm I’m a masochist actually
desert widget
Do you all have stockholm syndrom, why does everybody seem to hate GTFO?
people hate gtfo?
who
tall hawk
ask riemann
desert widget
it's just a joke concerning a troll
sounds like a made up troll
rose nova
sounds like a made up troll
... trolls are weird
but wel i think they r banned so
u won't see em
desert widget
but wel i think they r banned so
who's banned
topaz ridge
anyone want to chill for a bit?
rose nova
who's banned
the troll i mean
lost lynx
rose nova
patpatpatpatpat
mellow hedge
Woopsie
pastel dagger
already done R4A2, R4A3, and R4B2 with <:prisonerefficiency:768796112219144216>
r4b3 next poggers
alpine scaffold
i have a feeling that hackett hates me.
lost lynx
i have a feeling that hackett hates me.
bishop does
pallid anvil
fun solo level
Can I watch? :3
mystic moss
I'm gonna get rose judged..
quartz cape
dw she's still working out how to plug in her mic
alpine scaffold
r4b3 next poggers
overload r4b3 have error alarm?
mystic moss
no
naive jolt
Me and my team just attempted cryptomnesia for the first time
That warp when you grab the cube is spicy
We were sprinting and woke all the giants in the room up
lost lynx
the lore on R6D4 is actually very interesting too
you are not just warping to a different room
you are warping to a whole different worldline
burnt flume
fun solo level
as long as it's not the nerfed alt version... badger wouldn't approve...
noble rose
omd, i love bots
i love when they rush to me to disinfect me and waste like 4 uses of disinfect when im in the fog. my guy im running detox for a reason
so kind
ðŸ˜
strong heart
help me r5c2
analog flicker
R4E1 imo is a relatively boring level
mellow hedge
BLASPHEMY
analog flicker
The fun parts are too short
queen galleon
what do you think about r5e1
analog flicker
I mean the only real boring part is like shadow zones
Exactly my point.
analog flicker
I'd rather R5E1 over R4E1 anyday
Unless we're getting someone's R4E1 clear it's a different story
mellow hedge
I guess personal preference
I havent played a lot of r5e1
But ive played a lot of r4e1
Also going fast in reactor is fun
analog flicker
R5E1 cell skip 
queen galleon
i don’t even have any e tier level unlocked
mellow hedge
Getting like a 8 cycle reactor
I think going slow in r4e1 is kinda boring
But going fast is fun
Even going for a like 2 cycle tank is fun
latent palm
R4E1 imo is a relatively boring level
Real
latent palm
I mean the only real boring part is like shadow zones
Haha fun
speedruns the whole ass level
latent palm
Alr
mellow hedge
With no foam
latent palm
Bitch
mellow hedge
L
latent palm
mellow hedge
it was the last big patch they did
burnt flume
Ah the Feb patch
mellow hedge
Can still happen due to ping
But thats just how it is
If you have huge ping it can just happen
thick temple
i played the level a couple times recently with a bud with ~130-150ms ping to me and we only ever had one spawning, at least
mellow hedge
But I havent experienced it playing on 300-400 ping
rose nova
funny funny surge error
naive jolt
We ended up holding in the entrance to the zone with the cell, so we baited them into the room before bypassing them and shutting the door behind us
Worked very well
rough robin
sharp siren
R9a1 its a banger
Cant believe they fix the bot melee behaviour in this new patch
Im so happy 10cc work on the quality of life of this game so future gamers can enjoy the game fairly
queen galleon
I'm on R9E1 rn can't believe they have added an anti-material rifle
mellow hedge
average modded rundown
mellow hedge
surely we can get tanks in this
sharp owl
what r ur guys thoughts on the secret hel machine cannon unlock?
nimble pumice
mellow hedge
what r ur guys thoughts on the secret hel machine cannon unlock?
busted
near stag
they should add irl guns
I need an AK to 1tap strikers as If it were CS Go
blissful dome
R9a1 its a banger
^
blissful dome
what r ur guys thoughts on the secret hel machine cannon unlock?
it needs more pen
mellow hedge
L
exotic cave
gtfo is bad
mellow hedge
gtfo is bad
I want you SO BAD
mellow hedge
L
mellow hedge
Huge L
blissful dome
oh man no one playing
game dead confirmed
little ridge
earlier got a full team but then my pc crashed
Weird that your PC crashes tbh
Spec-wise from what I've seen on the thread looks "fine" especially since I used to have a 1060 6gb and got around with all low on 1080p
1650 is a good 25-30% less powerful but on 720p it shouldn't really be an issue
If the PC crashes due to thermals then I assume either most of the paste's gone OR you're using a laptop (which I think you are IIRC Hs are Intel's laptop cpus) and not using a pad to cool it
latent palm
If the PC crashes due to thermals then I assume either most of the paste's gone ...
Behold beepo wall of text
little ridge
Or since you don't have V-sync on you've probably uncapped everything and you're getting a fuckton of heat due to the GPU pumping frames when it shouldn't
lethal geyser
If the PC crashes due to thermals then I assume either most of the paste's gone ...
yes im on laptop hahah
little ridge
No idea if Target framerate on GTFO works as a cap to that tbh
Still GPUs SHOULD go on thermal throttling BEFORE reaching a certain temp but to be fair I remember that not working on my old GPU either 😄
latent palm
Still GPUs SHOULD go on thermal throttling BEFORE reaching a certain temp but t...
How is beepo
little ridge
Nice thanks
pure dew
What is a good general team loadout for all 4 slots filled?
What my group is looking at running is two people with the hel shotty / combat shotty combo, one person with a dmr and pr, and then the other brings whatever he's in the mood for with a lot of ammo (typically carbine and har or carbine and lmg).
Should we only have one person doing the shotty combo? Etc.?
junior latch
What is a good general team loadout for all 4 slots filled?
What my group is lo...
depends on the level
pure dew
We are on attempt 5 for R2D1 🙃
One of us didn't know that plugging in the 5th cell starts an alarm
junior latch
doesnt rly matter too much then
what i personally recommend is 1 gun to take out giants somewhat easily, 1 to kill scouts at high range (hel rifle can do both 
) and then just all rounder/wave clear weapons
tools and good stealth do a lot more work for alarms/blood doors. Then you simply do the ressource cell zone to be able to shoot up the blood door zones
junior latch
One of us didn't know that plugging in the 5th cell starts an alarm
finishing gen clusters -> bad omen 
wispy bluff
What is a good general team loadout for all 4 slots filled?
What my group is lo...
4 HEL Revolvers / Carbines depending on which people prefer. Maybe a couple HEL Shotguns.
Specials: at least one LMG of some kind for crowe control, one dedicated giant nuker - Sniper or Scattergun, but other high dps specials like combat shotgun or Choke Mod are fine too.
It's basically just balance between wave crowd control and giant nuking.
4 choke mods gonna kill ya.
pure dew
doesnt rly matter too much then
what i personally recommend is 1 gun to take out...
Yeah, mines and turrets were nice.
We have one mine, one bio, one sniper sentry, and one burst sentry.
The sniper sentry was nice to throw it at the bottom of the stairs in some of the rooms, and I was using the bio for the sentry synergy thing
I think the specific we ran last night was:
Hel shotty
Combat Shotty
Bio
Rifle
Combat Shotty
Burst Sentry
Rifle
Sniper
Sniper Sentry
Carbine
HAR
Mine
Boosters and melee are whatever
The sniper wanted to try to use the Sniper instead of the pr because fog with thermal is wild, but he didn't like the greatly reduced ammo
wispy bluff
I don't know man, that's only 16 dead strikers with 2.7 pause
pure dew
He's shifting back to using pr
wispy bluff
Risky.
junior latch
Yeah, mines and turrets were nice.
We have one mine, one bio, one sniper sentry...
basically the tool loadout id run.
Should always take biotracker
mines are rly good for the blood doors (and pulling some rooms)
sniper sentry and or burst sentry can easily carry 3 of the alarms
junior latch
I don't know man, that's only 16 dead strikers with 2.7 pause
artek... its r2d1
16 dead with 2.7 pause isnt bad also
its not like you have close spawning waves in small rooms
all alarms have enemies running marathons (sentrys do a lot) and dealing with stragglers is chill
like i wouldnt pick 4 choke mods. But its totally fine
wispy bluff
I'm saying it will cause trouble eventually
pure dew
The rifle combat shotty saw how I was able to just stop waves at doors for the turrets to clean up with the hel / combat shotty, and wants to try that XD
Choke mod is more for anti-big guy right?
latent palm
depends on the level
Stream when
wispy bluff
The rifle combat shotty saw how I was able to just stop waves at doors for the t...
Its hybrid gun, but it seriously struggles with wave clear because 4 dead guys with 2.7s reload is kinda cringe.
pure dew
Yeah, so in between the normal shotty and scatter?
junior latch
Yeah, mines and turrets were nice.
We have one mine, one bio, one sniper sentry...
Yea sniper is ass :(
id recommend hel rifle and scattergun on the team (to decimate giants and scouts alike). The combat shotties easily deal with any and all smalls close enough. (Hel rifle fucks up the shooters)
oh yea, dont drop sentries to clear general rooms. Only rly use them for alarms (or maybe the spare sniper sentry for giants since they are rly efficient)
The real thing for r2d1 is just going through the easiest route, not overtly wasting ressources (melee woken up rooms). Basically, do the alarm first, not the blood doors. Then do blood doors, (can open the cell ressource zone once the alarm is finished, it gives you A TON of ressources and a free cell back)
wispy bluff
Which is hilarious considering its a fucking shotgun.
pure dew
basically the tool loadout id run.
Should always take biotracker
mines are rly g...
alright glad to know. So unless we can tweak a weapon or two in the loadout (which it seems that what we're running with the pr adjustment is fine enough) we are good with the loadouts. Based
junior latch
The rifle combat shotty saw how I was able to just stop waves at doors for the t...
choke mod is all roundish
kills scout at decent range, kills giant in 1 mag (2 shots if from behind). Ok efficiency into smalls (similar to shotgun and highcal, or no pen hel rifle)
pure dew
Yea sniper is ass :(
id recommend hel rifle and scattergun on the team (to decim...
Yeah, we have the guy who likes terminals look to see if the key for 607 (?) is in 610 or 612, and then see if there's a cell in 611 or 613. Go around based on that
wispy bluff
High cal is much better for small nuking.
junior latch
you should always use terminals anyway
wispy bluff
Only slightly struggles with shooters.
pure dew
If we had time to prep for that last alarm we might have pulled it off
pure dew
you should always use terminals anyway
oh we do
when we learned how versatile they are we do everything with them
junior latch
Yeah, we have the guy who likes terminals look to see if the key for 607 (?) is ...
you can ignore the key thing, as you should really just open both blood doors.
Cell check is mandatory tho (and do the corresponding alarm first things first)
pure dew
So PS's recommended route depending on key isn't as needed, just trying to go upper rooms first and then having a fog diver do 610 and 612 is the move?
609 -> 611 / 613 -> 614 -> 610 -> 607 -> 608 -> 615 -> GTFO?
and if a room doesn't have many enemies, don't use the turrets in a pull, more or less?
sharp siren
you should bring 4 autosentry 4 autopistol and 4 machine pistol
i have 1000 hours in game
i know what im talking about
if you said thats not an optimize build then your a noob and need to play more
- blocked
🥱
sharp siren
Damn calm down there buddy
noob spotted
wild thunder
??
wispy bluff
(he's trolling)
wild thunder
ah
wild thunder
are you fr fr fr ?
nimble pumice
sleepy special
pure dew
How do the zone resource % work? On the wiki, if it says "Zone X" has 60% ammo, does that mean a 60% chance for ammo to spawn, or that there is a guaranteed 3 use ammo in the zone?
pseudo sedge
How do the zone resource % work? On the wiki, if it says "Zone X" has 60% ammo, ...
It means there are 3 uses of ammo in that zone.
pure dew
Gotcha, so if a zone has 140% for tool, for example, that means that there is guaranteed 7 tool uses in that zone, split up however they spawn, every time you play that level? There's no variation?
Just confirming I understand correctly
junior latch
Gotcha, so if a zone has 140% for tool, for example, that means that there is gu...
Theres absolute minor variations on bigger spawns (some zones can have 6 uses instead of 7, or others 5 instead of 6) but its absolute minor variance
pure dew
Gotcha, so if a zone is 40% or 60%, that is solid that it's going to always be a 2 use or 3 use respectively, but above 100% it can vary by one usage.
Is it a positve and negative variance, or just that sometimes you get one less charge?
junior latch
its just variance
pure dew
Waiting for that coveted 8 use pack
high orchid
you always do have that unlimited use melee weapon that you can use to save on ammo
junior latch
melee go brr
high orchid
me when spear to easily double kill
blissful dome
you always do have that unlimited use melee weapon that you can use to save on a...
unlimited health at 20
high orchid
so true
blissful dome
<3
pure dew
you always do have that unlimited use melee weapon that you can use to save on a...
Agreed. After R2C2 (whatever the alarm at the start one is), we got more comfy with using melee at low health.
We could definitely try a room pull with a few enemies melee only. We have a mix of hammer and spears for the most part typically
junior latch
Agreed. After R2C2 (whatever the alarm at the start one is), we got more comfy w...
Spear 💀
junior latch
jokes aside (not actually joking)
if you get comfortable in meleeing groups of 10-15 enemies then you can easily melee most rooms in most levels
junior latch
I like the bonk
Good choice
pure dew
bat is best bonk of course
junior latch
They like the range
Movement > range
(Not even considering all the other factors that spear suffers with)
eh
bat is good
but not best
pure dew
is it typically alright to have a knife / bat user and the rest sledge, or is it best for everyone to basically just rock sledge for general use
high orchid
bat is hammer with speed
pure dew
also bat one taps locks
junior latch
Spear is actually the only melee i wouldnt rly melee full rooms with
pure dew
very nice when rushing around grabbing resources
junior latch
is it typically alright to have a knife / bat user and the rest sledge, or is it...
kind of depends. But honestly doesnt matter too much
Hammer stacking just is the best basis (deals well with everything)
Knife is great to melee through errors or small waves. Bat is a bit more utility vs slower kills.
hammer > knife >= bat >> spear
tho honestly the only times youll rly suffer for taking non hammer is for specific enemy variants
pure dew
Gotcha gotcha. So the bat is a more situational knife (R2C2 running through zones to grab resources while the alarm is constantly going)
pure dew
tho honestly the only times youll rly suffer for taking non hammer is for specif...
yeah
the back of the head for scouts is sometimes wonky
high orchid
I'd personally say knife is worse than bat because bat is easier at giant melee but it isn't by much
junior latch
its harder otherwise. But doesnt rly matter as stealth is solveable
(tho id argue that theres definetly levels where you prefer having 2 hammers and 2 of bat/knife)
pure dew
I like the hammer being able to just pop the melon regardless of side
little ridge
jokes aside (not actually joking)
if you get comfortable in meleeing groups of ...
"Jokes aside (not joking)" 🇩🇪
pure dew
its harder otherwise. But doesnt rly matter as stealth is solveable
(tho id arg...
Just confirming, if all 4 hit from the back with two hammers and two bats / knives, does that kill a big boy?
junior latch
I'd personally say knife is worse than bat because bat is easier at giant melee ...
knife is weaker all rounder. But peaks hard
if you want an all rounder just take hammer, is why bat isnt rated as highly generally (bat is definetly good tho)
little ridge
Just confirming, if all 4 hit from the back with two hammers and two bats / kniv...
Darkeva knows numbers way better than I do (Since I dont at all tbh) but even 3 hammer full charge to back is enough with 1 occi (as in 2 back+1 occi)
pure dew
Darkeva knows numbers way better than I do (Since I dont at all tbh) but even 3 ...
occi is back of head right?
junior latch
Just confirming, if all 4 hit from the back with two hammers and two bats / kniv...
depends i guess?
realistically you learn to duo giants anyway with 2 hammers
pure dew
still learning GTFO terminology
little ridge
occi is back of head right?
Head FROM the back but yes
junior latch
Darkeva knows numbers way better than I do (Since I dont at all tbh) but even 3 ...
dont even need occi
3 hammers kill on perfect back dmg
pure dew
I guess generally, if you had to run the knife or the bat, which one do you typically run D4RK?
junior latch
(btw just call me eva)
pure dew
I like flexing on how fast I can hit the 4 though (will do eva)
wispy bluff
Knife to absolutely destroy smalls, bat for hard lock prejudice, while still kicking smalls around.
junior latch
I guess generally, if you had to run the knife or the bat, which one do you typi...
if i had to choose only between those 2
Bat
I value it being able to deal with bigger things. And if hammer isnt a choice its bat
in a general take i probably play hammer 95%, knife 4% and bat 1%
(In solo its like knife/hammer 90%, bat 10%)
id talk more about why x melee is good/bad
But i dont want to spoil you enemies
pure dew
Bats can stagger big boys with each charge hit right?
Scouts to back of head (occi), and the charge is just a bit slower than knife so you can also comfortably multi smalls right ?
wispy bluff
Yep.
high orchid
yeah, and bat can 1 tap shooters to occi
junior latch
Bats can stagger big boys with each charge hit right?
Scouts to back of head (o...
Easily yes (12 dmg, 7x multi, needs 40 stagger dmg). Guaranteed soft stagger if possible
high orchid
yea it has 3 base damage
pure dew
Bat can take out all smalls to head from any side right?
junior latch
*Bat can do that?*
3 base yes
high orchid
spear and knife can't
wispy bluff
I'm cringing so hard. I want to slap a dev in the face.
junior latch
Bats can stagger big boys with each charge hit right?
Scouts to back of head (o...
also charge is 0.6 vs 1.0
noticeable enough
if you try to go fast kill spree style
junior latch
I'm cringing so hard. I want to slap a dev in the face.
Well spear moment are sad
remember when spear was the only melee to stop stamina regen when shoving?
high orchid
literally bat being able to 1 tap shooters and 2 tap strikers, occi 1 back, is so nice when stealthing
junior latch
little ridge
Spear needed to keep the "multikill" feature it had on release tbh
high orchid
it still can multikill easily tho
junior latch
unless you mean the mechanic that all melees can abuse
little ridge
On release it was literally "just swipe"
high orchid
just line 2 enemies up
junior latch
afaik spear doesnt pierce
little ridge
just line 2 enemies up
I'll ask them in sleep-language
junior latch
its just the multi hit tech
little ridge
On release it didnt really require much of anything to multikill smalls
It was so easy it NEARLY looked intended
high orchid
yeah
pure dew
or just anywhere?
little ridge
occi
high orchid
occi only
little ridge
like hammer
pure dew
oh didn't know hammy could do that
rip
still learning more about gtfo as we go
so the bat can just 2 hit light hit smalls to the head
little ridge
oh didn't know hammy could do that
Hammer can do everything
pure dew
and one hit shooters to occi
woven nebula
Hammer can do everything
Yes.
high orchid
occi and back for strikers to 2 hit
pure dew
are the knife and bat restricted to only being able to one hit charge it to the head, or can they get hit on the back and also kill?
high orchid
bat can back kill strikers
pure dew
jeez
high orchid
even awake now?
pure dew
Oh yeah the knife excels when asleep right
nimble pumice
tbh when are you gonna hit a striker in the back with a melee when it's awake
pure dew
so bat is better for general use since it can also do awaken sleepers well?
nimble pumice
not how that works
junior latch
Oh yeah the knife excels when asleep right
Not… rly?
knife is best played hyper aggro (or to clean up a cluster)
junior latch
tbh when are you gonna hit a striker in the back with a melee when it's awake
A lot?
Lol
you rly just move past them and do a turn around hit
common tech on hammer/bat
pure dew
Not… rly?
knife is best played hyper aggro (or to clean up a cluster)
sorry, should have specified. The sleep clear potential is insane with the stealth multiplier and fast charge time
nimble pumice
why even do that on hammer
high orchid
except for chargers I always try to hit back
junior latch
why even do that on hammer
Speed
high orchid
faster kills
burnt flume
it is the way to melee
junior latch
if you are fighting you dont have to charge as long. Less chance to get hit
high orchid
and save stamina
junior latch
if occi 1 taps were a thing on strikers youd do that all the time instead
little ridge
@pure dew When I said "from the back" I meant exactly that: back damage takes into account your position and orientation, and that of the enemy, not WHERE you hit the enemy, just those two factors
I dont want to be pedantic it's just to clear the issue
burnt flume
where the enemy is facing, and where you are facing specifically iirc
nimble pumice
isn't that finicky asf
wispy bluff
Yes.
burnt flume
so if you're firing from directly on top of an enemy you might not get full back damage or whatever so sometimes hel rifle trolls into charger scouts
junior latch
what is?
wispy bluff
But easier to code.
burnt flume
or hel rifle just fucking sucks anyway
little ridge
ALSO the orientation doesn't update UNTIL their wake-up animations are done
burnt flume
I mean it's a good weapon, but it sucks
junior latch
or hel rifle just fucking sucks anyway
high orchid
nah u suck with it
burnt flume
mate I'm probably better than you with it
junior latch
sucks like goat when you put salt on a foot (was that goats actually)
coarse grail
where the enemy is facing, and where you are facing specifically iirc
But didn't Chill get that knife kill on the scout jumping past it looking away? So shouldn't it be player position with ref to enemy facing position
high orchid
what sucks is burst cannon
nimble pumice
what sucks is hel shotgun
junior latch
where the enemy is facing, and where you are facing specifically iirc
Afair player direction doesnt matter
little ridge
But didn't Chill get that knife kill on the scout jumping past it looking away? ...
I think Chill wasn't host in that clip am I thinking of the wrong one?
burnt flume
I meme on people who play hel rifle but never pen, and don't like getting shot by hel rifle
little ridge
Afair player direction doesnt matter
It doesn't
It's why you can trickbackhit charger
junior latch
I meme on people who play hel rifle but never pen, and don't like getting shot b...
Then you shoot others with it
coarse grail
I think Chill wasn't host in that clip am I thinking of the wrong one?
no idea who host was all I remember was it was sick as hell
burnt flume
ok yes I was intentionally trolling in that one pub and it was funny
but that was it
junior latch
ok yes I was intentionally trolling in that one pub and it was funny
it was
little ridge
Get behind a charger, very close, with hammer, look to the other side, look very up, fullcharge release and you get the kill anyway
woven nebula
what sucks is hel shotgun
No Doubt..For Me.
little ridge
It LOOKS cool but whatever
I saw it done once and thought it was fun and it is
You can do the same shit to break locks
high orchid
I'm more of a delayed hit with spear/knife fan
wispy bluff
Based
little ridge
I'm more of a delayed hit with spear/knife fan
For a moment I thought of a fan that has spears instead of blades
nimble pumice
knife most fun, love knife
high orchid
pure dew
Looked away for a moment and the wall of text grew
So the gist is the knife is great if you want to be a menace to smalls and clear rooms quickly, and the bat is great as it can do that slightly slower but it has the stagger and environmental utility
pure dew
Easily yes (12 dmg, 7x multi, needs 40 stagger dmg). Guaranteed soft stagger if ...
Do I need to aim for limbs like the hard stagger with sledge, or is it just every hit is at least a soft stagger?
high orchid
always aim for limbs unless bat
pine root
Looked away for a moment and the wall of text grew
So the gist is the knife is ...
Knife realistically isn’t bad anymore it doesn’t do baby damage to giants and it very possible to kill them fairly quickly
Use to not have very consistent limbs staggers
Now it does from behind
pure dew
The knife used to be bad?
Is what I typed as the gist accurate though? Bat is more versatile with the trade off being the slower charge speed compared to the knife?
wispy bluff
Yes, pretty much.
The selling point of both knife and bat is speed, with knife trading locker damage for even faster murdering and extra backstab damage.
pure dew
locker damage and stagger
junior latch
The knife used to be bad?
Is what I typed as the gist accurate though? Bat is m...
Not bad
Bad vs giants
pure dew
ah gotcha
Why is it recommended to jump when getting scouts with the knife or bat btw?
wispy bluff
Unfortunately hammer is so good that none of it matters.
high orchid
ah gotcha
Why is it recommended to jump when getting scouts with the knife or b...
yeah personally I would
pure dew
yeah personally I would
why?
wispy bluff
ah gotcha
Why is it recommended to jump when getting scouts with the knife or b...
Hitboxes are a bit unreliable with scouts - their shoulders get in the way sometimes. So you attempt to gain elevated position advantage to bypass that issue. Better safe than sorry when the thing screams.
pure dew
ah gotcha
wispy bluff
Ironically spear is the only one who doesnt care about that - the reach and thrusting combo makes it precise enough to not fuck up scouts.
Until it still does, somehow... But happens very rarely.
high orchid
sledge doesn't need to either if u look slightly up
for me jumping with sledge fucks me more than not jumping lol
wispy bluff
Eh, the swinging action is a wild card.
Again: always better safe than sorry.
Spears probably should jump too, but if you weren't lazy - you wouldn't be using spear.
high orchid
if you arent used to it then yeah but I rarely miss scout kills not jumping with sledge and spear
burnt flume
sometimes scouts lean backwards so jumping is good because you're less likely to hit the shoulders if the scout leans away from you
high orchid
not if you kill when they're walking
burnt flume
ok but maybe sprinting is better because it forces them to feel so they don't suddenly move
pure dew
ok but maybe sprinting is better because it forces them to feel so they don't su...
Yeah, I've missed a scout because he hunched over randomly and I clipped his shoulder blade
What's the thoughts on the default loadout btw? I think most people don't like the primary but I'm just curious.
After completing the tutorial, the default loadout is smg, shotgun, burst, bat.
mystic moss
smg is just meh, everything else is good
just sub smg with carbine and you have a decent loadout
good wave clear, good big dmg, good boss dmg, good baby clear
wispy bluff
I liked SMG a lot more after the buffs. Its okay. Could be better, used to be worse. Doesn't require any particular skills to use, so there's that.
50 bullets is nice.
mystic moss
I think my problem with smg (and automatics in general) is just the ttk
when you're in a squad with 2 machine guns, things just take so long to die
pine root
Ttk time to stagger no value from headshots
burnt flume
I feel like I always have to reload before I kill the sleeper too
feels like other weaps are much easier to get more kills per mag with, like hel revo, dmr, carbine, etc etc
junior latch
Ttk time to stagger no value from headshots
less*
junior latch
the issue with automatics is that in absolute theoretical perfect play theyd actually be quite strong
but lol
pine root
You take it from guns that actually benefit from headshots
It is like an smh player shooting giant head while you have a sniper player
mystic moss
has anyone explicitly mentioned that the best way to shoot in a team setting is to spread your damage
i.e semis pop head and move on to the next striker instead of shooting again to get the kill
and let another person finish the kill instead
junior latch
dmr hel pp combo
pure dew
I pop heads for my machine gunners so they think they're doing work
I mean they are doing work, even if it is cleaning up sloppy seconds
pine root
I pop heads for my machine gunners so they think they're doing work
Do you have the clip of the bullpup guy
pure dew
a kill is a kill is a kill is a kill
mystic moss
probably lost to the twitch clip ocean ;(
junior latch
i dunno where the machine gun downplay recently is coming from
its not like veruta is a bad gun
junior latch
the special autos at least kinda follow the "we get more efficiency" line that main autos dont
junior latch
I hate mg players
but why
junior latch
is it like the sniper/bio players who are mute even
pine root
like 10% or less
burnt flume
Do you have the clip of the bullpup guy
#gtfo-media message poor tomato
junior latch
does the mod take dmg of the gun into account or actual dealt dmg btw
(like if high cal headshots, is it 20. or 65
pine root
Damage delt no over damage
MG players don’t learn a lot of the gun skill that some players should know
junior latch
gun skill o.O?
pine root
shooting enemies their head
mystic moss
MG players don’t learn a lot of the gun skill that some players should know
all they know how to do is hold lmb, eat ammopack, and die
high orchid
me when I mostly go for headshots with arbalist
pine root
me when I mostly go for headshots with arbalist
Fuck you
unreal crystal
you’ll understand when you run out of ammo on e2 because mg players
pine root
You deserve the death penalty
wispy bluff
shooting enemies their head
But what if I don't want to.
junior latch
is it more common?
pine root
Yeah
high orchid
that reason is why I run arbalist over veruta
unreal crystal
I’ve heard abt it with mg players more than any other tbh
But I always hoard ammo on that level
so it’s never happened to me
junior latch
wdym i love when i play scattergun and the mg player is sitting at 100% with a 3 use
pine root
Mg players shoot mom instead of babies. Most of the time ngl
unreal crystal
man my smg is at 60%, better eat another use!
junior latch
Mg players shoot mom instead of babies. Most of the time ngl
hey still better than sniper
unreal crystal
Mg players shoot mom instead of babies. Most of the time ngl
You caused this
Just saying
pine root
Wdym
pine root
XD
unreal crystal
I don’t remember
pine root
Hel shotty comabt
unreal crystal
but don’t think I forgot
pine root
Solo no birth kills
junior latch
i dont think jish had any impact on pubs with that
that would mean theyd look at videos like that
unreal crystal
No but I can still blame them
pine root
If my solo no birth saga
caused anything it is so funny
Because it doesn’t work anymore with hammer nerf
junior latch
imagine not trying it with bat
unreal crystal
some poor guy out there is completely dumbfounded as to why it doesn’t work
pine root
imagine not trying it with bat
You get running birth
also scatter is in the game
Guys
Solo no birth is very easy to achieve atm
mystic moss
crazy skill expression
pine root
It works just fine on host
burnt flume
Machine gun players dump their entire reserves into tank and feel proud of themselves for definitely dealing more damage than the burst cannon user
Then they have no ammo for alarms and it's funny because I need to hoard all the damn ammo or tanks will never die
high orchid
me running up to get the tank burger achievement:
wispy bluff
Let the people enjoy their little brrrrt spam
If they wanted to aim - they would pick a different weapon.
mystic moss
and snipe shooters from 15m
pine root
and snipe shooters from 15m
Just dodge
Or have your magazine be -1000000 units under the floor
mystic moss
dodging is the only cool thing in the game now
deleting the wave while you weave through striker tongues and hybrid barrages
peak gtfo
mystic moss
crazy how stealth horror shooter ends up becoming a pseudo movement shooter
high orchid
I've been waiting on a gtfo parkour mod lol
quartz cape
i hope r7d2 gets removed
mystic moss
like it's so funny how stealth / unintentional game mechanics turned gtfo into this
back multi encourages you to route behind enemies for max dmg
pine root
Dodging requires good movement
mystic moss
sliding is a movement option to help you reload while maintaining momentum
pine root
many choices because is like 3 checks
You don’t always want to kill enemies to delay waves
mystic moss
pen meta encourages thoughtful positioning to maximize kills per shot
quartz cape
hope they add back the alpha slide so i dont have to play the game
wispy bluff
Its all in the mindset. If you are trying to squeeze efficiency - yeah, this happens to pretty much every game eventually.
pine root
Its all in the mindset. If you are trying to squeeze efficiency - yeah, this hap...
But the movement in this game
Is so good
Like it is the best part
By far
high orchid
me when autopistol+shove
wispy bluff
Too bad I never cared about movement. The ethernal heavy weapons guy.
blissful dome
hmmm
mystic moss
guess what I'm trying to say is that the optimal way play to gtfo is counter intuitive to the game's core design, like every gtfo mechanic has been exploited and often repurposed
they've curbed the issue in some ways by adding stamina and removing sentry back multi
but I think the dissonance still largely remains
pine root
they've curbed the issue in some ways by adding stamina and removing sentry back...
I think adding stam
Made the movement better
Every choice needs to be more accurate
on the micro level
quartz cape
r6 player...
pine root
You guys
mystic moss
I can agree with that
quartz cape
unfortunately that's still the answer
pine root
But not the easy answer anymore
mystic moss
I think adding stam
my gtfo brainrot has progressed so much that my dreams end with me dying cause I ran out of stamina
little ridge
Pre stamina I just ran in circles around a crate while looking up
100% immune to anything that ain't a charger or a big
high orchid
me when shadows:
pine root
Like the only two things I want from the snatcher is no soft. And when you get snatched your able to move right as you get dropped off
quartz cape
"can we hammer the reactor"
little ridge
"can we hammer the reactor"
To make it start again?
mystic moss
I just want one tap occis again so i break my wrists hitting 180s
little ridge
It works for old machines
quartz cape
To make it start again?
real ones remember
little ridge
I just want one tap occis again so i break my wrists hitting 180s
your wrists? you play with 2 mouses?
mystic moss
gtfo is a rhythm game
little ridge
real ones remember
Can I be a REAL ONE even thought I never got past 1 min dying on og R4E1?
quartz cape
Can I be a REAL ONE even thought I never got past 1 min dying on og R4E1?
no because you never got to "can we hammer reactor"
little ridge
no because you never got to "can we hammer reactor"
I see
I never even reactorskipped R6D1
little ridge
The thing that I'm told would make R6D1 FUN and a totally interesting map
quartz cape
r6d1 is all boring part
little ridge
It just skips the boring part
yeah the joke I was trying to make is that Kraken ain't fun either
pure dew
I meant to ask earlier, but why is the hel rifle regarded as better than pr?
I know it has almost twice the ammo as sniper with a bit less damage and pen, but compared to pr?
mystic moss
yeah the joke I was trying to make is that Kraken ain't fun either
you suck at jokes
pure dew
i've not used either, just curious
little ridge
you suck at jokes
rude
mystic moss
take a page from our esteemed mtn mam
little ridge
To think you were on Chaotic/good on the chart
little ridge
take a page from our esteemed mtn mam
that's aiming too high
quartz cape
i wish beep was here, he would say something funny
mystic moss
To think you were on Chaotic/good on the chart
I was giving you constructive feedback
chaotic evil me would've said nothing
pine root
I meant to ask earlier, but why is the hel rifle regarded as better than pr?
I ...
PR is better than hel rilfe
It has thermal
little ridge
chaotic evil me would've said nothing
We already had this conversation 🤣 #gtfo-chat message
wispy bluff
I meant to ask earlier, but why is the hel rifle regarded as better than pr?
I ...
PR:
10 bullets
13 damage
Very high weakpoint damage (headshots strong)
Thermal sight
HEL Rifle
5 bullets
30 damage - oneshots any small enemy from very high ranges
Penetrates up to 4+ targets at once
Headshot damage neutered, but it doesn't matter.
high orchid
5 clip
junior latch
I meant to ask earlier, but why is the hel rifle regarded as better than pr?
I ...
just to compare
DMG:
PR: 13
Hel rifle: 30
30 is a strong breakpoint (chargers, giants, shooters, also 1 shots scouts to head and strikers anywhere)
Pen:
Hel rifle has insane penetration. You can regularly kill 3 targets in 1 shot
high orchid
hel rifle is the fuck charger gun
wispy bluff
Both reload forever.
high orchid
chargers LOVE to line up
little ridge
HEL Rifle can shoot from the hip if you really want to and still do fine-ish too IMHO
high orchid
the wild thing is pr is a semi auto
quartz cape
thats not that wild
high orchid
how many times do you actually use it's full firing speed?
quartz cape
0 because i dont use PR
wispy bluff
how many times do you actually use it's full firing speed?
When giants get too close and the extra large one.
So about once or two per run maybe.
And no, PR is not semi auto.
It is full auto.
thick temple
i think he meant to say full auto but yeah, it is full auto and that's kinda whacky
wispy bluff
Which just happens to completely conflict with how it actually works, but that's now a problem with at least 2 guns, so I guess this is in character for GTFO.
high orchid
what's the other?
wispy bluff
Shorty.
high orchid
short rifle makes more sense imo
pure dew
just to compare
DMG:
PR: 13
Hel rifle: 30
30 is a strong breakpoint (chargers,...
So hel rifle one shots smalls from any hit, can pen through many smalls, is a good answer to chargers, and can deal with scouts at any range.
I'm guessing it isn't as good of and answer for big boys, or barely noticable difference compared to PR for big boys?
pine root
So hel rifle one shots smalls from any hit, can pen through many smalls, is a go...
It is better than pr for big boys
wispy bluff
It is semi. That's the problem.
pine root
as well
assuming you hit more than one
And PR is using best big strat
Invisible
Head
pure dew
Gotcha gotcha
weary robin
germany?
mystic moss
it's an alright place
wild thunder
could use a bit less restrictions
pine root
3/10 tbh
pallid anvil
classic schizo behavior, why are you shooting at a head that doesn't exist
Me doing that a lot :3
But then I get licked once and then I get flamed for it
odd mango
And my Dystrum
I hate that side mission lol, it so annoyingly difficult yet also easy at the same time if ykwim
analog flicker
I can't remember the specific mission type it appears on.
odd mango
Arquarq
analog flicker
But yeah. It's just another collection side obj
odd mango
Yeah but it's somehow worse than the others, ig because you can't collect all of it 1 go as your bag isn't big enough
rose nova
r6d3 didnt have any changes in the alt right?
apart from maybe of course just tile ones
wicked solstice
nothing major
rose nova
oke i was just witin the alt wiki thing of r6d3 and
i wanted to make sure i missed a change since im seein mostly og videos about it
queen galleon
mellow hedge
does this include cell skip or just normal way of doing it?
queen galleon
normal way only
wraith marsh
you can see
mellow hedge
oh yeah lmao
wraith marsh
yea its a very easy pick lol
lost lynx
yup, 5 votes
mellow hedge
tgb go sleep bitch ass
pseudo sedge
No
queen galleon
what about r5e1 isn’t that level notorious for long playtime and the infection
blissful dome
hardest poll any%
blissful dome
what about r5e1 isn’t that level notorious for long playtime and the infection
im pretty sure r4e1 is harder
lost lynx
r8e2 is..... funnier
pseudo sedge
what about r5e1 isn’t that level notorious for long playtime and the infection
R5e1 normal way is still easier than r4e1
wicked solstice
Pretty sure E2 is harder
blissful dome
Pretty sure E2 is harder
well this is true always so
mellow hedge
e2 is just the hardest overall
pseudo sedge
Yep r8e2 always takes the cake over both
wicked solstice
R7 might’ve been harder than R4/5 if it weren’t so buggy
mellow hedge
if it included cell skip i would personally say cell skip is the hardest
blissful dome
LMAO
queen galleon
idk the only e tier i’ve played is r4e1
pseudo sedge
R7 might’ve been harder than R4/5 if it weren’t so buggy
Even no bugs is easier.
trim sail
😳
wicked solstice
I’ve played all but R4E1, beaten all but that, R7E1 and R8E2
R7E1 would def be harder than R5 imo
blissful dome
eh
lost lynx
I’ve played all but R4E1, beaten all but that, R7E1 and R8E2
dak, we still have to do r7c3
mellow hedge
ngl never played r5e1 normally
blissful dome
dak, we still have to do r7c3
knife only
pseudo sedge
Idk... Between r7e1 and r5e1 normal way r7e1 seems easier... Tho I also have only 1 clear in normal way r5e1 and I played a lot of r7e1
wicked solstice
dak, we still have to do r7c3
Fuck no
blissful dome
r7e1 feels easier
wraith marsh
r5e1 is a lot harder lol
wicked solstice
Idk... Between r7e1 and r5e1 normal way r7e1 seems easier... Tho I also have onl...
Imagine like, if the charger Z scan wasn’t bugged
Or you actually had to defend in Alpha 2
Or pablo functioned as intended
queen galleon
i have seen a streamer having to attempt almost 30 times before beating 5e1
mellow hedge
I mean you usually do defend in alpha?
blissful dome
i have seen a streamer having to attempt almost 30 times before beating 5e1
krill tissue
pseudo sedge
Imagine like, if the charger Z scan wasn’t bugged
U foam one door and shoot the other with Hel rifle
wicked solstice
U foam one door and shoot the other with Hel rifle
There’d be 4
pseudo sedge
Keep in mind one Hel rifle already can do what foam does on that alarm
wicked solstice
4 way scan
mellow hedge
I think the big issue here is cfoam
high orchid
r5e1 is doesn't really have any hard sections that stand out, I have yet to do cell skip but the only hard part doing it normal was doing those scans inside the spitter room, and then the ending but that only took one try once we know how it played
wraith marsh
you just funnel if its 4 way
pseudo sedge
Also dak u can just kill one wave until the wave spawns on foamed door
No foam u kill 3 waves of chargers at best
mellow hedge
I think the whole thing is the level IS buggy
wraith marsh
whos gonna tell them you can kite the chargers around the bottom layer
pseudo sedge
Yea not even gonna talk about how kitable the whole thing is in that layout
wraith marsh
idk, even if it was 4 way with working pablo
pseudo sedge
Also wdym defend in alpha 2 dak?
mellow hedge
just brazil skip guys
wraith marsh
I dont think that holds up to r5e1 ending
mellow hedge
yeah i mean thats just in the contract tho
also chill are you babysitting and defending?
wraith marsh
ye
mellow hedge
dayum
wraith marsh
the problem is the opposite of what I expected
the waves are really far apart and not very big but pablo is a fuckin bitch
and being on 20 the whole time sucks
wraith marsh
it does but if the charger timing is bad you kinda just die
juggling him using the jump up is preferable if you cant get him stuck
just a lot faster and youre in a good charger killing spot
burnt flume
brazil skip is funny
mellow hedge
fair fair
burnt flume
I still think it's not that mechanically difficult
burnt flume
good luck
blissful dome
frosty gameplay when
wraith marsh
nah I dont think sub 20 is possible
mellow hedge
frosty gameplay when
click my profile
blissful dome
click my profile
no
mellow hedge
and make sure to send me all your money
mellow hedge
nah I dont think sub 20 is possible
i think if a team gets very very comfortable with it it could be done
wraith marsh
no like
I think its literally impossible to get enough time save for that
most of the speed is pretty forced
wraith marsh
I think tru did some manual ones so far
burnt flume
Wait what do you do with the extra tanks from cell zone?
wraith marsh
we were about 90 seconds ahead of the toxic clique wr rn
(we lost 30 seconds to scan)
mellow hedge
Wait what do you do with the extra tanks from cell zone?
kill them
wraith marsh
Wait what do you do with the extra tanks from cell zone?
insta kill 1 and kill the other
we have double scatter
mellow hedge
yeah
burnt flume
Figures
wraith marsh
loadout rn is double scatter, hel gun hel rifle
mellow hedge
optimally you have the health to tank to insta kill one
wraith marsh
were working out tools still
burnt flume
Double scatter is good for going fast but intellectually bankrupt
wraith marsh
I mean killing 2 tanks isnt that easy quickly
burnt flume
Ye
mellow hedge
taking advantage of stagger is really nice
burnt flume
It's just one of those guns that's kinda boring
tranquil prawn
What are the best levels for a group of 3?
burnt flume
good player walks up
fires scatter
obliterates whatever with little to no cost