gtfo-chat

[pine root]

I am unaware of flyer skip

[rose nova]

the wah skip

[pine root]

Please tell

[limber wave]

The first set of stairs down in the second patrol

If you go near them they trigger the flyer spawns

So if you go around you skip them and the other triggers

[pine root]

The stairs trigger the flyerspawn?

[rose nova]

i wouldnt b surprised

[limber wave]

Yessir it's really weird

[pine root]

Can you get a double flier spawn

[rose nova]

lol

[limber wave]

But my group did that when doing b4 sec and it makes it so mjch easier

So many resources were saved

[limber wave]

And snatcher spawn

[rose nova]

tbh for me the flyers r kinda the easiest part of that alarm but well that's probs just me

[wraith marsh]

holy shit is this why snatcher feels rng

theres no way

[limber wave]

Yeah it's the third trigger

And if you don't do the first the second nor third work

[limber wave]

They are mildly inconveniencing

More just the ammo use

[pastel dagger]

dont listen to this clueless individual

when u launch gtfo u press matchmake

[lost lynx]

💀

he got into R2E1

when he only did the tutorial

[rose nova]

if it was pre final nerf i get it

[pastel dagger]

wow its so diffuclt to change expedition

ironically sometimes hosts dont know how to 💀

so lets say

u get into r1a1

host insta ready up

ok cool lets go

u finish it

go back to lobby

host insta ready up again on r1a1

[vernal nebula]

Well there's only a small indicator at the top of the screen, I can see why it's easy to miss sometimes

[latent palm]

real

[rose nova]

i mean but u get used to it not changin to the next after like 2 missions

[latent palm]

i hate wasting ammunitions

[latent palm]

stfu chair

[rose nova]

:c

[latent palm]

[nocturne parrot]

I'm looking for players in area R1 my name on Steam is Bolg55 👍

[latent palm]

um

[limber wave]

That's fucked up

[latent palm]

hmm?

how is it "fucked up"?

[limber wave]

[latent palm]

that just how slendi like to be handled

all the time

[rose nova]

:[

[latent palm]

you like it dont you fockin mexican

[rose nova]

:c

[honest dust]

chill down

bro

[latent palm]

[sharp owl]

Thank you to the player for helping. Whoever you are...

[mellow hedge]

chill dude?

[mystic moss]

chill, dude

[honest dust]

no

chill down

[mellow hedge]

na

[honest dust]

also i tried out the burst weapons

the burst turret is okay but it runs out of bullets after like 15 enemys

but i hate 3 round burst

but

the carbine is my fav weapon rtn

becasue it has 4 round burst

also

i put the turret the right way

and ill give it a 6/10

shotgun sentry is a 8/10

but when you pair hel turret and shottie turret

its insane

wall of bullets

hel turret

100/10

goodnight fellow prisoners

[narrow forge]

с кем можно пойти катать, через мн 15

ток без микро пока буду

[true pilot]

oooof

casual burst sentry placement skill issue

wait thats a troll right?

i just noticed hel sentry rating

that must be a troll right

[rough robin]

You have to Believe when you're using the hel sentry

otherwise it doesn't work

[latent palm]

No idea what bro is on about

[mellow hedge]

It isn’t sadly

[true pilot]

huh

i mean i can respect saying hel sentry is good, cause it can work well

but saying burst sentry runs out of ammo quickly? and that hel sentry is actually good?

[gentle badger]

can you play the old rundowns?

[pine root]

Yeah

[pine root]

You would have to find out how somewhere else tho

Maybe YouTube will help

[gentle badger]

so i can't just select an old rundown from a menu?

cause i played through 1 but stopped after that so am wanting to see 2 onwards

[pine root]

you can play through the alt rundowns which are levels close to the og

[hoary flame]

Hi,

I'm new here, looking to party up, I like playing with mines.

[mellow hedge]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rare kite]

https://imgur.com/SwBRYO6

[neat tangle]

guys go two hero my lobby 109775242567128686

[robust dawn]

no

[hexed cypress]

nåra svenskar här?

[hexed cypress]

@everyone någon svensk

[lost lynx]

please use english

i really dont know what language is that

[hexed cypress]

swedish

i need person to play with

thats is swedish

[pseudo sedge]

nice attempt at pinging @everyone

[lost lynx]

try #hc-europe

[latent palm]

bro tried to ping everyone in dis server

nice catch TGB

[last onyx]

ERR03: unauthorized system overdrive detected. help pls(

[modern coral]

Verify the integrity of your game files.

[burnt flume]

that's just flavour text anyway

but yeah, either connection or a corrupt file or something so verify integrity to check

[abstract plaza]

What is this week's A2 code

[mellow hedge]

Smth

[latent palm]

@lost lynx sadly

You arent the hero we all need anymore

[latent palm]

Shouldn’t you be asleep?

Why are you still here lurking

[mellow hedge]

I sleep when I wanna

[halcyon prism]

write START RASCAL.EXE into any terminal to get it :trollface:

[sharp owl]

im a very new player anyone has any tips

?

[pastel dagger]

press matchmake

hel shotgun bad

[rose nova]

be sure to do the tutorial of course
try out every gun, pretty much all of em are good except for a couple really, the rest hve their uses niche or not so try em out
and uh if an enemy is glowin they detect much further, so be sure to wait for em to not be glowin when u kill em one by one

its like a 2 3 meter range

[robust dawn]

you can block by right clicking with a melee weapon or v when holding a gun

[burnt flume]

I understand you think its funny but I don't think it's great to gaslight new players into thinking there's nonexistent game mechanics if they ask for tips

[robust dawn]

gaslighting the non gas lighters

[alpine scaffold]

200 hours of GTFO and I've only just discovered that shooters have a face.

[rose nova]

:]

[molten river]

did ar get buffed yet

[rose nova]

no

[molten river]

ok back to valorant

[thick temple]

feel free to uninstall the game if that's what you're waiting for cause it's unlikely anything gets a buff at this stage

[lucid eagle]

how to use lfg for posting invite to voicecall?

create invite button on the voicecall creates generic invite to serv

[rose nova]

wait a second until the link updates

[pastel dagger]

just farm main dmg boosters

[rose nova]

then copy it when it has a lot of letters and numbers

[pastel dagger]

buff it urself

[zealous hedge]

lmao

[bold zinc]

revo

[rose nova]

revolver

[proven wagon]

Due to the previous user whom provided the A2 code no longer does, other users stated that some users made a list that contains them and updates them here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962954905

[high orchid]

why not just find it yourself?

[pine root]

So lame and boring

[high orchid]

nah it's lame just getting it from someone else

[pine root]

You have to run r8b2

Twice

[lost lynx]

or r8b2 once and r8e2 once

[high orchid]

ok?

[little ridge]

I'd ask more about why someone made a new Discord account just to post that

But I feel that my curiosity would be answered with drama I give 0 shit about

[lost lynx]

hey Sleepo

[little ridge]

Just a hunch

[lost lynx]

so hows everyone doing in this very nice sunday? (or monday)

[pine root]

20 orphan

[lost lynx]

oh

our secret saviour

[exotic cave]

gtfo is bad

[sharp owl]

i'm playing rn and it is a pain i get it all done and then get the the lvl IV alarm then die

[lost lynx]

welcome to GTFO

we suffer 24/7

[sharp owl]

yea

it don't help that i have bot's that play and not actual players

[rough robin]

R1A1?

[sharp owl]

yea

[pine root]

The class IV be hard

Did you know you can make the bots use tools

[sharp owl]

that and i keep getting jumpscared by random fuckers

[rough robin]

make sure the big wide door that they come through on that class IV doesn't get destroyed, and bring trip mines. You should find a foam grenade or two beforehand that you can slap on the door to reinforce it

[sharp owl]

nope

[rough robin]

foamed door + a trip mine covering it = instant death for all of them when they break it open

[pine root]

Is your press Q

There should be a selection for deployment of tools

Once you have them you should clear it pretty easy

[sharp owl]

lol

[pine root]

Turrets are very good in the game

[sharp owl]

still it would be easer with real players

[pine root]

Same with c foam and mines

[pine root]

100%

[rough robin]

yes definitely

[sharp owl]

it took me three tries to use the specials

[pine root]

ah

[river marlin]

R4C3 is pain

Sometimes i feel like the game is coded so the scans and team scans can troll you in the worst moment

BUT.it is what it is

[high orchid]

you doing PE?

[river marlin]

We tried

Now it´s only pain.

I´m not playing more tonight any way

[molten river]

i have the hard drive space sir

[thick temple]

as do i, but you seem to be awaiting something that you have no compelling reason to believe is gonna be coming

[molten river]

i just dropped 40 in valorant

[high orchid]

ok?

did anyone ask tho?

[pure dew]

Quick question: For the "collect all logs" achievement, do I have to make it to the extraction to have it counted towards the progress, or can I leave the level when I get the logs?

[lost lynx]

apparently you can leave and the log will count

it needs to be open a couple seconds

but to make sure just die

you can either die or complete the mission and it will count

[pure dew]

Gotcha gotcha. My friends and I just finished R1, and we decided that we wanted to read all the logs because we want to deep dive into the lore without spoiling ourselves on future rundowns. Some of the R1 levels we aren't the biggest fans of, so that's good to know we can grab the logs and then just wake everything up for it to count!

Thank you!

[lost lynx]

let me tell you something

the logs only talk about events before the main game

so you wont spoil anything of future rundowns

if you want to experience the actual lore of the game

start Rundown 6

[pure dew]

I have heard it was sort of "dark souls esque" with the lore and logs.

I was sort of told that a good way to "build up" the lore as we work though is to "play a rundown and read all the logs. If it was an alt rundown, go to the wiki and read the logs / information on the original rundown as they are different"
So Alt//R1 & Logs -> read about OG R1 -> go to next rundown

[pure dew]

don't you mean Alt//R6 🤓

[lost lynx]

...

[pure dew]

In terms of the actual gameplay, is there anything different from the OG to Alt version? Like, does alt//R1 basically play the same as R1

We all got the games well after the OG rundowns were gone

[lost lynx]

its just a mini remastered version

but the only big change is that ALT and OG versions have different lore

some things happen different

[burnt flume]

The gameplay has some differences, namely the game looking different and having a worse selection of weapons

And I guess weapons were considerably weaker back in the day, other funny stuff too

[lost lynx]

its technically the same levels

with minor changes

nothing too big

[burnt flume]

Yeah the missions for the most part are very similar

[high orchid]

I would honestly say going back the gun selection was better since now it feels kinda bloated with the amount of guns we have

[pure dew]

Gotcha. So they more or less play the same, but we have more weapons now since all the rundown exclusive weapons aren't exclusive anymore.

So, play the alt rundown and read its respective logs, then read the logs for OG version, progress to next, more or less

[high orchid]

yeah

[latent palm]

Real

You didnt had to do bro like that

[sharp owl]

I FINNALY FINISHED THE FIRST ONE

[lost lynx]

r1a1?

[sharp owl]

yea the first one

[lost lynx]

niceeeee

your adventure has just begun

go and die

FOR THE WARDEN

[sharp owl]

i had to speed run after i got the objective

[lost lynx]

yeah

what you deal with at the end

will be very common in this game

[sharp owl]

i know

[lost lynx]

good luck on R1B1

🫡

[sharp owl]

yea

😦

[lost lynx]

btw whats your loadout?

what guns are you and the bots using?

[sharp owl]

the slug shotgun and the LRG

[lost lynx]

LRG?

[sharp owl]

with the foam thing

[lost lynx]

slug shotgun....

[sharp owl]

it's a charge sniper

[lost lynx]

oh the hel rifle

thats a decent pick

but i really dont recommend the slug shotgun

[sharp owl]

no ot the hel rifel it's the Omneco LRG

[lost lynx]

thats the hel rifle

[sharp owl]

oh

[lost lynx]

"Omneco LRG HEL Rifle" (im dumb is actually charge but its really small)

[sharp owl]

i have the HEL shotgun now

[lost lynx]

but the LRG isnt charge

the "Omneco EXP1 HEL Gun" is the charge one

[sharp owl]

yea it is ""short charge-up

thats what it says

[lost lynx]

now you are about to destroy everything thats infront of you

[sharp owl]

i have the omneco lrg hel rifle that is hybrid electrothermial light-gas rifle overpenetrating rounds long range and short charge-up

for a secondary

[lost lynx]

thats

very specific

you can just say hel rifle

[sharp owl]

that is the entire thing

[sharp owl]

you said the lrg isn't charge

i was talking about that gun the entire time

i said the name too lol

[lost lynx]

yeah i forgor
the charge is really small compared to other guns

so i dont really pay atention when shooting

[sharp owl]

oh

it kills the massive monsters in one to two shots

[high orchid]

that depends on how much damage your teammates deal to them prior to you shooting

[sharp owl]

i kill one with like two shots, before my bot teammates could shoot them

[lost lynx]

what guns are the bots using?

[sharp owl]

now the hel shotgun and a LMG

[sharp owl]

i'm here now

[lost lynx]

make sure to equip a bot with bio tracker

[sharp owl]

i'm already in

[quasi pine]

[high orchid]

[quasi pine]

👽

[pure oasis]

Looking for a squad to play with I’m still new to the game

[sharp owl]

@pure oasis i can soon

[latent palm]

Thats gay

[midnight viper]

Yo

[rose nova]

hllo

[vale vault]

does someone have the r8a2 extreme code?

[latent palm]

@lost lynx

Go on alex

[rose nova]

dcquy-wi2f1

if it's not this

means it already changed

cause it's sunday

funk timing to be asking

[vale vault]

thanks for the passcode

still works

[stone marten]

Bruh. Ive been playing with occasional 6 second lag spikes for a long while and couldnt figure out wtf was going on. Turns out my fucking ports were closed 😅

[mellow hedge]

rip

[pastel dagger]

Rookie numbers

On some ru hosts I skip entire reactor waves sitting in lag dimension with nothing happening

[pastel dagger]

Hel shotgun bad

[mellow hedge]

Baron bad

[latent palm]

stfu frosty

let him cook

[mellow hedge]

Im gonna char you like a fucking sausage

[pastel dagger]

we already let our lord and savior sleepy cook

hel shotgun bad

hel iron good

[calm orbit]

i am currently installing this game where to find people to play with as noobie

[glad hazel]

@high mauve it wasnt desync,,, it was me all along muhahahaha

[high mauve]

i knew :)

[glad hazel]

the hack lock one too ;p

totally desync tho

[upper loom]

lfg

#how-to-matchmake

there's loads of people willing to help new players learn the game so you'll have no trouble finding a group

remember to ask for no carrying

that'll keep people from joining and basically doing the level for you

[limber wave]

Any tips to make r8c2 bit more bareable

[latent palm]

gid gud

its literally just that plain im not even joking

you can make it even easier by just ladder foaming if youre stuck at the multi zone scans

[limber wave]

Yeah my group struggles when the lights turn off

[latent palm]

yeah the shadow zones are heavy on the giant shadows

[limber wave]

LITTERALY

[latent palm]

a tip for that

have a player that stands near the door to shoot into it and run back out

that way youll just pull room out without too much hassles

[burnt flume]

Don't suggest cheesing

[latent palm]

i didnt

i just said it was a way

also

[burnt flume]

"You can do this if you want" is literally a suggestion

[latent palm]

it dont work if the snatchers goes into them

[limber wave]

The charger scouts are evil aswell

[latent palm]

so i dont think so

[burnt flume]

Find all resources, remember the zones, take your time

[limber wave]

Its no biggie, I already cheesed b4

[latent palm]

nah the tank as an extra threat in the 3rd scan is criminal

[burnt flume]

Christ

[latent palm]

even with nerfs?

[limber wave]

The mri one?

[latent palm]

well yeah theres 3 full team

all gets smaller as you scan completes

and the tank and 2 giant shadows

[limber wave]

Yeah the snatchers on the final is evil

[latent palm]

spawns in right away when youre done with the 2nd full team

[latent palm]

no

they spawn early on 2nd scan

[limber wave]

Oh really?

[latent palm]

but follows up on the wave

so youd want to take a lil more time to kill said snatchers

and just duck behind the foundation of the cip frier

but you still need to kill tank

or just kite around

[limber wave]

3 tanks in one mission my beloved

[latent palm]

R4E1 mfs: @mellow hedge

[latent palm]

one more thing

[pastel dagger]

i literally woke them (albeit the ones deeper into the level, not the first ones, the ones with the tank) on my first try and we completed it

[latent palm]

you wont get to cheese out D2

[limber wave]

Oh yeah I try not to cheese, b4 was the first time my group did do cheesy stuff

[mellow hedge]

only 2 if speedrunning 🤡

[latent palm]

3

[mellow hedge]

2

[latent palm]

u dont count tank mom?

[mellow hedge]

yes i count that

[latent palm]

eh

[mellow hedge]

you only get one at the start with foam

[latent palm]

i didnt know dat

hmmm

ill have to speedrun with you to know that then

which brings me to my question

[latent palm]

wana watch the new godzilla movie?

[mellow hedge]

in person?

[latent palm]

no i got it right here

streaming rn

[mellow hedge]

na im in another call

[junior latch]

bruh

poor B4

[pure dew]

Quick follow up question: Last night when asking about how to go through the logs as my friends and I play, playing through the rundown and reading the logs, looking at the OG run's logs (if it has any) and then going to the next one was determined to be a good way to build up the story.

What about the Archived logs on the wiki? In Archive 2 it doesn't look to correlate to any in R2 or alt//R2. Are these archived ones just scattered throughout the rundowns?

[lost lynx]

since when do you call me that

🤨

[lost lynx]

they were duplicates

they were in multiple levels

[pure dew]

Ah gotcha. So don't worry about the logs in the archived part of the wiki. Roger

[gusty burrow]

There are occasional minor "interesting" differences between the OG logs and the new logs in the ALT versions, but I'd say that's something to look into only after seeing most of them.

[pure dew]

Roger. Complete Alt, read all logs of alt, read logs of OG, go to next rundown.

OG R1 doesn't have logs. Aside from the Discord log saying what alternative / alt means, are there any other logs in the discord?

[analog flicker]

Logs didn't exist at the time of OG R1 iirc

[pure dew]

Gotcha gotcha

Thanks!

[quasi pine]

👽

[exotic cave]

gtfo is bad

[wispy bluff]

Depends

[high orchid]

then don't play it

[thick temple]

Their last like 20 messages in the server is just that message but daily lol

[mellow hedge]

I want you

[latent palm]

Were back

[latent palm]

Can i buy you?

[little gust]

109775243300612087 моя карта зависла и я не могу ничего сделать кто-то может помочь:? The card is frozen and I can't do anything. Can someone help:?

[mental shell]

yo just bought GTFO looking to jam with some people let me know if you wanna play

English pls

just DM me

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[proven garden]

which machinegun is the better one?

[burnt flume]

veruta

but actually it's secretly hel gun

[pure dew]

When would you use one over the other?

I've seen some folks swear by the arbalist, so I am curious

[burnt flume]

arbalist is easier to use at range but I personally don't like the gun so I wouldn't use it ever

[pine root]

you dont use either

tbh

[pure dew]

false

tbh

[burnt flume]

veruta is nicer for keeping yourself safer at closer ranges compared to arbalist

machine guns are fine, they're not the worst, but they're not really close to other insane guns

[pure dew]

They server a good role for cc. I'm not the most accurate of my friends, and on some levels if there's a lot of doors or whatnot, I like using the mgs since they can stun a striker / shooter per shot

[pine root]

machine gubs are overrated

[quartz cape]

grubs

[pure dew]

also, ar / veruta is best for bots

[quartz cape]

this is false

[burnt flume]

burst rifle sweep

[pure dew]

how so? Overrated would mean that they are praised more than they should be

[quartz cape]

DTR / BC lets bots carry

[quartz cape]

maybe not overrated but a bit overused when compared to their power

[pine root]

correct

people put these guns in b tier or a tier

and the are c teir at best

[pure dew]

how are they overused?

I've only seen c or below for mgs, what lists are you looking at?

[pine root]

they are overused

[pure dew]

How?

[muted cypress]

MG fell off a bit in R8

[pine root]

beacuse they shouldnt be used when hel gun comabt

shotty

hel shotty

are in the game

[muted cypress]

Still can’t go wrong with 1 MGunner in your team

[burnt flume]

you easily can

[pure dew]

hel shotty has very close range
mgs allow for stagger per shot at a distance

They serve different purposes

[burnt flume]

MG players are not trustworthy

[pine root]

YEAH

[quartz cape]

Gabe is an MG player

[pine root]

YOU CAn

[quartz cape]

so watch what you say

[pine root]

brain dead

[quartz cape]

hitmen are approaching your location

[unreal crystal]

Gabe shoots mg at tanks

[burnt flume]

that's just every pub though

[pure dew]

It's like this, the most overused weapons are hel revolver and carbine right? Applying you're logic, why use the carbine when the hel revolver is basically a pocket dmr with pen?

Different weapons perform and handle differently. You can still do just fine with an ar and shotty. Maybe it isn't as optimal as a carbine and combat shotty, but you can do whatever feels comfy for you

[burnt flume]

they shoot an entire mag into tank and cockblock me from getting shots with burst cannon

[wraith marsh]

1 MG can eat all your ammo

[pine root]

autos

in gerneral

[quartz cape]

he killed it idot

[pure dew]

30% ammo per charge for mgs right? How is that different than 30% charge for combat shotty or scatter?

[pine root]

just underpreform

[pine root]

the number

of things

you can kill

[pure dew]

except if you miss

[unreal crystal]

I think you really see the issue with mg in e2 pubs tbh

[proven garden]

i fucking hate this level

r2d2

[quartz cape]

try winning

[proven garden]

is getting the better out of me

[muted cypress]

Only useful auto mains are pdw and hel pp

[pure dew]

tbf I haven't done pubs. I've only played with friends, so we tend to cover each others weaknesses well enough

[wraith marsh]

You're right, all carbine users should just take hel revo

[pine root]

if you cant hit most of your shots

[burnt flume]

so true bestie, you feel it in your bones

[pine root]

mg

[rose nova]

the way u use a gun wrong doesnt really have to do with how it performs
its like sayin sniper is bad cause used on babies its bad

[pine root]

aint it

either

[proven garden]

hel revo my beloved

[pine root]

no

scatter gun on babies

[rose nova]

thats a bad example

[pine root]

is good

[rose nova]

fixed

[pine root]

you dont understand

[rose nova]

i realized

i wad umb

[pure dew]

no wtf

[unreal crystal]

The scatter baby clear is crazy

[rose nova]

on big chunks yes

scattergun takes a lot at once

[pure dew]

on bigs yes

[rose nova]

no on babies too

like sprayin it at smalls

[pure dew]

on babbies you can one tap them with some of the autos

or if you're PS you can just knife spam

[unreal crystal]

it sounds troll but if you have grouped up babies scatter pops off

[quartz cape]

dam i forgot my knife

[wispy bluff]

Man's dedicated to selling the message

[burnt flume]

the pellet weapon baby clear goes hard

[unreal crystal]

It’s not the primary use but you don’t waste much doing it

[quartz cape]

this guy uses choke mod for baby clear

mods, kick him

[proven garden]

scatter is so good when you actually get to use it properly but it feels like ass on half of the levels tbh

[quartz cape]

get closer to enemy

[unreal crystal]

Nah it’s great

[muted cypress]

Birth control weapon

[proven garden]

btw choke mod vs combat shotgun? when do you use either

[unreal crystal]

I never use choke

[quartz cape]

cs when level is all smalls i guess

[wispy bluff]

Combat shotgun is zero brain close range power that nukes anything and everything. Pretty much HEL Shotgun that traded pen for actual damage.

[pine root]

i think

you should look

at the spreedsheet

ngl

[unreal crystal]

not the spreadsheet

[pure dew]

Yeah. That's why I was saying that I think mgs are fine. None of my friends like the hel shotty, but I like using it on the occasion, depending on the level

[proven garden]

yeye i know but i mean, comparing to eachother

[pine root]

na this guy would do wel

[quartz cape]

guys check out my spreadsheet

[wispy bluff]

Choke is... A hard a sell, unfortunately. Its a medium range precision weapon, very fucking ironically.

[pine root]

looking at the sheet

[pure dew]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[quartz cape]

where is excel edward

[pure dew]

ah no gif

rip

[wraith marsh]

Know what auto can 1 shot

[pine root]

valorant e dating

[proven garden]

is there an actual spreadsheet

[quartz cape]

he should be an admin here

hed fit right in

[pine root]

yeah

a few

[proven garden]

where

[quartz cape]

mine is the best dont listen to anyone else
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CC_lsObUbvp7FrGt-MtQrcFvKQGsQ1FRLxIsREG6tu0/edit#gid=1423346086

[pure dew]

I won't look at a spreadsheet because I like finding out stuff myself. Each weapon can be used to different effectiveness depending on the person.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the "underperforming" weapons still good more or less? Like, everything is viable but some are more viable than others
animal farm but guns

[pine root]

besides short rilfe

yeah

[quartz cape]

nah short rifle makes me want to short rifle myself

[pine root]

they are fine

[wispy bluff]

The closest weapon to Choke in performance is High Caliber Pistol, funnily enough.
The difference being that Choke trades 2 shots in the mag AND longer reload for twice the damage fall off range, x1 prec (better boss damage), and ability to shoot its entire mag in a second if you slam the firing button quick enough.

Its very much a utility weapon. Anything it can do - someone else can do better. Particularly sucks against large waves - you just pick off like 4 enemies and then you reload for almost 3 seconds.

[pine root]

unless you do

any speeds or challange runs

[proven garden]

why is short rifle bad

only used it like once on r1b1

[pine root]

0.5 stagger

[wispy bluff]

x0.5 stagger multi on top of jackshit damage

[proven garden]

ew

[wispy bluff]

it takes 3 bodyshots to stagger a striker

[pure dew]

I got the achievement for solo dual revolvers on a b level.

That was... something

[muted cypress]

Worse dmg than the rifle

[proven garden]

also, about sentries, we always seem to just default to burst sentry and maaybe a sniper sentry depending on the level, i know shotgun is good if there are small corridors in the map but when would you use hel auto

[pine root]

the revolvers

arent bad

tho

they are some of the best guns

in the game

[quasi pine]

burst sentry is the all-rounder

[wispy bluff]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Drekker_CLR_Short_Rifle
Just read this article.

[gusty burrow]

You are using sentries correctly

[pine root]

unless you picked rev secondary

instead of high

[quasi pine]

nothing wrong with sticking to burst

[pure dew]

the shotgun sentry was fun on r1c2 putting them at the bottom of the ladder. Chargers never stood a chance

[pure dew]

and?

You said that everything is fine, except for short rifle, unless you're doing challenge runs.

I was agreeing. Solo b achievement is better with revolvers than pistols, for me anyways

idk maybe someone is cracked with burst pistol and high cal

[proven garden]

so is hel auto just pointless

[pine root]

burst pistol

isnt it

it is the 2nd worst gun

[pure dew]

for you and me sure

[pine root]

next to the ar

[pure dew]

I'm saying maybe someone is cracked with it

[pine root]

nope

[pure dew]

I've seen clips of people melee only on a tank

[pine root]

yeah

[quasi pine]

it’s pretty bad usually, it’s a specialist in staggering enemies

[burnt flume]

good players don't get held back by guns but taking a bad gun is still trolling

[quartz cape]

if you are cracked with BP, you are crached with DTR which is just an upgrade

[wispy bluff]

Not useless, just utility.

[pure dew]

^^

[quasi pine]

if you use it like a burst sentry it will suck

[pine root]

you are

[pure dew]

I've not used the hel auto yet. Is it basically just a small scale hel auto sentry?

[pine root]

just a good player

with wights one

[wraith marsh]

Stagger will always be better in the hands of the player

[quasi pine]

pistol or sentry

[proven garden]

my reasoning behind never using hel auto was that if it's good for staggering then im using double the resources to kill enemies, tool refill for the stagger and then ammo to kill it

[quasi pine]

which are you talking about

[burnt flume]

as mountainman said if someone is cracked out of their mind with a crappy weapon they'll be cracked with an even better weapon

[pure dew]

apologies. Hel auto pistol

[quasi pine]

hel auto sentry is basically only good for surge alarms because it helps stall

[pure dew]

is it just a smaller scale hel sentry

[quasi pine]

I am the #1 hel autopistol fan

[proven garden]

i see

[quasi pine]

it’s super good

[proven garden]

i used the hel autopistol on r1c2

felt pretty good vs chargers

[quasi pine]

the autopistol pierces 1 enemy, and a single pellet staggers a basic

[quartz cape]

where is machine pistol gang

[burnt flume]

this is a fallacy, burst sentry actually ends up being better because killing the enemies means they respawn further away which creates a greater delay compared to auto sentry

[quasi pine]

2 for a charger

it’s absurd because you have hundreds of bullets

[quasi pine]

oh

so hel auto sentry is just

shit then

[pine root]

yeah

correct

hel auto

[quasi pine]

figures

[pine root]

has good use

[quasi pine]

[pine root]

to stack enemies

and that is about it

but stacking enemies is how you wipe new players

[proven garden]

honestly my loadout for 80% of the expeditions i've done has been hel revolver, sniper and then cfoam launcher or bio if my designated biotracker friend doesnt feel like using it

[quasi pine]

sniper is awful

use the scattergun or burst cannon if you need to kill bigs

[pure dew]

so don't be new then

🤓

[quartz cape]

🤯

[wraith marsh]

🤯

[quasi pine]

the only thing that sniper is remotely good at is killing hybrids on reactor levels

that’s kinda it

[quasi pine]

👽

[proven garden]

yeah hybrids are the main issue tbh

cant rush them as easy with scattergun when they are surrounded too

[gusty burrow]

More or less.

The actual justification is that HEL Auto and Shotgun both are less effective than Burst in most scenarios, and even in the situations which strongly favour them (straight thin corridor, high enemy density for HEL Auto, incredibly short range, thin funnel for Shotgun) they are only marginally more effective than Burst.

However both are ridiculously less efficient. You're spending 4-6 extra uses of tool every alarm just to use a sentry that is harder to find value with, and even when you do find more value, is doing barely anything extra.

When most levels don't have the tool refills to keep those hungrier sentries full for every alarm you quickly start suffering with sentries running out.

[pure dew]

New waves only spawn after all enemies are killed from the previous wave right?

Using a hel sounds similar to using c foam to keep the door closed while everyone does a scan

keep enemies delayed for the scan to end

[quartz cape]

no, enemies spawn until spawn cap

[pine root]

once you hit the time delay and the population

[proven garden]

there's a spawn cap but enemies keep spawning

[quartz cape]

if you spawn cap, then this will work

[pine root]

these things are related

[proven garden]

it's like 25 enemies i think

[quasi pine]

this is why c-foam stalling works

[pure dew]

so delaying can be better than killing in some situations

[quasi pine]

you hit enemy cap and then no new waves will come until they break through and die from the mine

[quartz cape]

guys can we cfoam the ladder

[unreal crystal]

Sure thing man

[pure dew]

having a mine on the other side of the door after scan finished

[proven garden]

yeah but a cfoam launcher would delay better if you have doors and if you dont you are better off killing the enemies no?

[quasi pine]

yes

[pine root]

CORRECT

[quartz cape]

you should go long instead of killing the enemies

[pure dew]

Oh i'm not saying hel is the same effectiveness as cfoam, just that it has a similar use case

[pine root]

just in normal gameplay

[quartz cape]

kite dont kill

[unreal crystal]

you can delay next wave spawns without needing foam

[pine root]

it almost never matters

[quartz cape]

thats my motto

[wraith marsh]

Why would you want a sentry you have no control of to stagger when players are infinitely better at it

[quasi pine]

if there’s nowhere else to foam effectively for the rest of the mission just splooge on the floor

[pure dew]

R1A1 but every enemy is an immortal

[wraith marsh]

Also foam sets up for mines

[quasi pine]

real

[pine root]

we dont want to go back to

r4

please

[wraith marsh]

Hel auto sentry leaves the problem

[pure dew]

your meta can't help you now

[pine root]

r4 meta

was so bad

[proven garden]

what would you say is the best all around special

[pure dew]

Good thing I only got the game when R7 was the only one. No OG R4 to worry about 😎

[proven garden]

i would ask main but revolver is goated im never dropping it

[gusty burrow]

There is one HEL Auto Sentry level in the game and it is R6D4, debate me.

[pine root]

scatter gun

[pure dew]

What was the OG R4 meta btw?

[pine root]

hel rev burst cannon plus just kite

[unreal crystal]

Long kiting

[burnt flume]

hel gun or burst cannon is my inclination because I don't want to touch scatter

[quartz cape]

go long!!!

[muted cypress]

Helgun/rifle

[unreal crystal]

2 best guns

And they went long

[burnt flume]

yeah, it was long kiting/circle kiting, R4 EXT had busted ass guns though

[quasi pine]

can’t go wrong with the veruta

[proven garden]

isnt the low ammo count kind of a deal breaker with it tho

[pine root]

you can

[quasi pine]

shut up!!!!!

[pure dew]

yikes

[pine root]

two best funs

[quasi pine]

but yeah no the scattergun is just king

[pine root]

in the entire game

[proven garden]

i tried hel rifel once but it seemed worse than sniper

[quasi pine]

it’s infinitely better

[pure dew]

so the two best guns made for the worst meta?

[quartz cape]

burst cancelling + circle kiting >>>>>>>>>

[quasi pine]

no you can’t pop heads but you can oneshot 5 enemies in a line PER SHOT

[burnt flume]

scattergun gets way too much ammo tbh

[pine root]

more

than sniper

but 1

[proven garden]

doesnt it have like 10 on reserves

[burnt flume]

if it had like 33% less ammo it'd be a more interesting gun

[muted cypress]

Worse in what way?

[quasi pine]

how does giving it less ammo make it more interesting

[pine root]

it is still disgusting

[pure dew]

combat shotty

[pine root]

correct

that is also one of the guns

of all time

[proven garden]

couldnt pop giants and hybrids in a single shot and it kinda handled worse but that's prob because im used to the sniper

[burnt flume]

combat shotgun goated for solo speeds

[pure dew]

I know scatter is insane, but if we're talking about guns that have dummy ammo for what they do

cs

[quasi pine]

ditch the sniper

[pine root]

yup

[quasi pine]

you’ll thank me later

[pine root]

but you can play with hel shotty

and scatter

[proven garden]

i try to but it's a crutch

[quartz cape]

grab you a burst cannon

[proven garden]

i'll try scatter

[pure dew]

yeah but ngl i don't like how hel shotty feels

[quasi pine]

scatter is also a crutch

kinda

[pure dew]

I know it's good, but I'd rather use something else

[proven garden]

i tried burst cannon on a few r2d2 attempts but i didnt really like how it felt

[quartz cape]

how could you say this to me

[pure dew]

this. meta weapons may be meta, but if you don't like using it no reason to

[proven garden]

also what do you even pair with main shotguns, heavy ar?

[quartz cape]

also burst cannon

[pure dew]

ngl i would like to know what people here say for that

[proven garden]

idk it felt clunky and it has like no ammo

[quartz cape]

definitely not ehavy ar

[pure dew]

I like using the sawed off and was wondering what it pairs well with

[wraith marsh]

Anything honestly

[quartz cape]

hel gun is a good pair tho

[wraith marsh]

Unless it's slug

[pure dew]

is it that the HAR is underperforming or it alright but there's better choices

[quartz cape]

double pump

[proven garden]

slug is just bad right

[wraith marsh]

It's pretty mid ye

[pure dew]

in the wrong hands /s

[quartz cape]

har is ok but i cant see any reason to use it over an mg

[proven garden]

and between hel shotgun and sawed off what do you usually prefer

[wraith marsh]

Har underperforms

[pure dew]

i've not used the har before tbh

[quartz cape]

sawed off

[pure dew]

does it not stagger like mg? I know mg has the charge up, but har has much less ammo

[wraith marsh]

Those are very different weapons

But hel shotty

[proven garden]

the only time that i ever used a main shotgun it was the slug shotgun and i had precision rifle with it because shadow level

[quasi pine]

hel autopistol is the best stagger weapon in the game

[gusty burrow]

That sounds painful.

[proven garden]

yeah it's the reason i havent bothered with main ammo shotguns again lmao

[quasi pine]

the only shotgun you need are your fingers

[proven garden]

but i do enjoy precision rifle tbh, dont know what the general opinion is on it

thermal scopes my beloved

[pure dew]

thermals are nice

[quasi pine]

precision rifle’s thermal is just the cherry on top

it would be a good weapon even without that

[proven garden]

i havent tried any smgs other than pdw tbh

also because of thermal scope

[muted cypress]

Sniper used to be way better for bigger enemies but ever since the changes (reduced mag size being the biggest one), Hel rifle now got very closed to fulfilling the same role while being infinitely better against every other enemy types

[quartz cape]

ogr3 moment

[pine root]

hel rilfe

isnt

a giant anwser

[pure dew]

but what about if two giants were lined up?

[pine root]

pen bug

[quartz cape]

what if all the enemies lined up in groups of 5??? most efficient weapon??? how has no one seen this????

[pure dew]

"'X' weapon is the meta in this game but only when 'Y' occurs"

"The hidden power of 'X' weapon"

"How is 'X' overlooked"

can't think of any other clickbait yt titles for people trying to make a new meta off the top of my head

[pure dew]

obv slug shotty. hidden gem dontchaknow

[wraith marsh]

It's not an answer but it's a good option

[pure dew]

it's a strongly worded rebuttal

[pine root]

r8c1

is maybe

the worst level

ever made ngl

[quartz cape]

skill issue

[pine root]

ur right

tbh

[quartz cape]

what about pabulum

[pine root]

it is a better level

R8C1

[quartz cape]

ok go play it then

[unreal crystal]

u can’t be serious jish

[pine root]

i am

r8c1

[quartz cape]

what do you think is the worst level then

gerzow

[pine root]

was a waste of man power

for r8

ngl

like they could have copy pasted r4c2

[quartz cape]

r8 was made by 1 guy

[pine root]

and i wouldnt have complained

[quartz cape]

the rest were working on cyberheist

[burnt flume]

i think r8e2 is the worst level because I've only played it with scattergun and permafoam

[little ridge]

It will fix all issues after all

Personally what I found weird of R8C1 is how you select overload

[quartz cape]

whena are you gonna play r8

[little ridge]

And it's... a bit bizarre overall but to be fair whatever

[alpine scaffold]

I'm still on R4. What's so bad about R8E2?

[burnt flume]

I only have r8d2 left and I am not fond of pubbing that level

[quartz cape]

you should call up gabe

did you get your logs yet

[pine root]

nothing

beth

[unreal crystal]

R4c2 is infinitely worse

[pine root]

than r8c1

have you played

r8c1

[unreal crystal]

Yes

[pine root]

r you sure

[unreal crystal]

I duoed it with beep

[quartz cape]

not yet sorry

ill get right on that

[modern coral]

R4C2 has triple surge, tho.

[pine root]

did

you

[little ridge]

I kinda like R4C2

[pine root]

cheese secondary

[unreal crystal]

Triple surge doesn’t make up for the rest of the level ray

Ofc not jish

[little ridge]

I liked OG more but whatever

[alpine scaffold]

There's something worse than Rundown 2?

[quartz cape]

bring back ogr8c1

[unreal crystal]

we just shot everything

[quartz cape]

🤯

[little ridge]

It could use to have just less glps (adjusting so that you still need the same amount of zones)

[pine root]

did you full send

overload

or just sit

there

killing a single stream of shadows

while the stupid fog

rises

really adds a lot to my levels

[unreal crystal]

yea we cleared everything on the first one and then full sent iirc

[pine root]

this is cringe tho

Like

[unreal crystal]

I full sent it all on a 4 man clear

[pine root]

yeah

i agree

[unreal crystal]

jish that level is not that bad

[pine root]

it is

so cringe to play

[modern coral]

It's structured in a very bad way, tbh.

[unreal crystal]

it’s not the worst level simply because it’s not very long

it’s over and done with quickly

[pine root]

if you

have a single pub

They drag you down beth

ngl

[unreal crystal]

Whereas the slow painful burn of r4c2 is just insane

[pine root]

r4c2

you can speed run main tho

[unreal crystal]

ok but it fucking sucks because you ALL have to go to every single zone to do the team scan

[pine root]

correct

team scan

is the worst part of gtfo

[unreal crystal]

It’s a big part of why I find it so miserable

And tbh overload shouldn’t exist

[pine root]

i agree

but i would say

r8c1

secondary shoudlnt exist

[quartz cape]

r4c2 main shouldnt exist

[pine root]

and the overload should just always have

[quartz cape]

just have secondary be the new main

[pine root]

the shadows

[little ridge]

why?

[quartz cape]

with guranteed id splits

[pine root]

it is so cringe

[little ridge]

It's a bit bigger as a zone than it needs to be but whatever

[unreal crystal]

Because its not threatening by any means

[pine root]

shadow stealth

into a shadow walk

[unreal crystal]

I’ve never had the shadow waves ever be an issue cause they just get stuck behind you lmao

[little ridge]

Yeah that's kinda true

[unreal crystal]

And then you have to do this really long walk back to the beginning

[pine root]

r8c1

[unreal crystal]

with a really dull extract scan

[little ridge]

Last PE I did there we had like 2 waves then the rest just spawned behind

[pine root]

has scheffer

that talks to you

[little ridge]

But I find it charming

[pine root]

r4c2

doesnt have that

[unreal crystal]

schaeffer talking makes the level better

It’d be S tier if henriksson was there

Admit it jish

[pine root]

yeah

if they had sex on mic it would be s teir

[little ridge]

Moreover perhaps a lot of it is due to the level being one added when sectors were introduced

[pine root]

correct

[little ridge]

It also introduced shadow scouts IIRC

[quartz cape]

rare log

frostty is gonna want to see this one

[pallid anvil]

pookie so good :3

[unreal crystal]

it wasn’t very hard

[pine root]

here is the thing

[quartz cape]

beth can we all call you pookie

[pine root]

you didnt have bob in accounting

role playing in your ear

as he

wakes up all scouts

did you duo with throwers

[quartz cape]

local jish learns that there are weirdos in pubs

[little ridge]

Some pubs make it impossible to carry nearly no matter what tbh

[quartz cape]

mind blown

[little ridge]

Usually stuff like American young stoners

[quartz cape]

what are you tryna say about american young stoners

[little ridge]

That I dont like them

Because they smoke pot and I need to listen to their whatever bubbling noises

[quartz cape]

total buzzkill

[little ridge]

And they seem more entranced by consuming weed than by playing the fucking game

the thing people are in the lobby for

[quartz cape]

they're just tryna chill

you need to be a more chill dude

[little ridge]

It's near there with the "streamers roleplayers", the ones that dont even stream but pretend they do

[wraith marsh]

chat is this real

[little ridge]

Because their entire personality is built around whatever streamer they're encapturated by at the moment

[quartz cape]

sounds like a good bit

[quartz cape]

my favorite streamer is GerzOW

[unreal crystal]

Sometimes I feel like people are just making up people to get mad at

[pine root]

WDYM

[unreal crystal]

not you jish

[quartz cape]

jish whyd you make that guy up in r8c1

just to get mad

like what is your problem

[pallid anvil]

can be taken out of context

[unreal crystal]

relax

[pallid anvil]

:3

[quartz cape]

you need to be a more chill dude

[unreal crystal]

not chill dude

He’s hel rifle pilled

[little ridge]

nah

[quartz cape]

im not talking about chill dude

[little ridge]

I didnt make up either

[quartz cape]

im talking about being a more chill dude

very different

[quartz cape]

oh yeah? what were their names and IP addresses?

[mellow hedge]

just doxx em

[worthy furnace]

uhm...

hey guys!!

i'm stuck on r2d2....

😥

[vestal crystal]

Another gerz alt detected

[worthy furnace]

@unborn bramble

[unborn bramble]

wsg yapper

[worthy furnace]

pipe up pal.. r2d2 time!

[unborn bramble]

😔

[worthy furnace]

[exotic cave]

gtfo is bad

[thick temple]

a second riemann message in one day? how blessed are we

[river marlin]

nae nae

https://tenor.com/view/nae-nae-gif-20983172

[tough anvil]

brazil anyone ? go private chat

[lost lynx]

#hc-latin-america message

[river marlin]

huh i got invited to brazil lets gooo

[latent palm]

its not

you need to chill dude

[lost lynx]

wrong person

D:

[river marlin]

aw

[lost lynx]

#hc-latin-america message

[lost lynx]

DONT GO TO BRAZIL

SAVE YOURSELF

[river marlin]

[marsh basin]

Olha suas DM

@tough anvil

[glass vapor]

what do we do if someone joins the vc but doesnt join wit- nvm they le- nvm they're back

smh

[lost lynx]

if it happens too often report them

[true willow]

hi guys we are newbie

Can someone help newbies get used to the game?

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[true willow]

Thank you very much for the advice!
We completed the training, but we can’t get past the first location.

[rose nova]

uhh i can probs join