gtfo-chat

[crude bay]

lucky b....

[autumn bobcat]

Speedwagon doesn’t yap. He commentates

[latent palm]

Domain expansion: ultra goofiness

this domain makes that

[serene berry]

[latent palm]

anyones claim is invalid

[jade dirge]

i wonder what the alignment chart looks like nowadays

[true pilot]

=(

[earnest forge]

Nah, Gerz is not slightly Chaotic Evil . Does not count

[latent palm]

and there for theyre dumbshits

[true pilot]

hell thanks to you

[wicked solstice]

speedwagon speedwagon's

[little ridge]

Artek, from what I've seen, has always been polite

[blissful dome]

hm

fair

[wicked solstice]

can we make speedwagon a verb

i love speedwagoning

[unreal crystal]

No you dony

[blissful dome]

its english

[latent palm]

Artek is a scientist

[jade dirge]

id like to think im chaotic stupid

[blissful dome]

any noun can be a verb

[autumn bobcat]

I speedwagoned my pants

[true pilot]

Speedwagon deez deer into your car?

[blissful dome]

not a good one mind you

[latent palm]

he studies it before hand

[crude bay]

you wish

[blissful dome]

im so sorry

[latent palm]

better youll be :3

[blissful dome]

more like stupid stupid^2

[blissful dome]

<3

[latent palm]

i speedwagoned into dept

what do now

[worthy pine]

hi

[nimble pumice]

I think you are lawful, sleepyboi

[high orchid]

wouldnt that just be stupid^3?

[worthy pine]

how can i join a friend

[jade dirge]

how

[latent palm]

you can join them on steam

[blissful dome]

yes

[latent palm]

or with a lobby code

[blissful dome]

<3

fine

[crude bay]

or copy and send loby id

[blissful dome]

stupid^stupid

that better?

[worthy pine]

any other ways?

[jade dirge]

with their lobby code, on the right side of their lobby screen they cna hit "copy lobby ID" and dm it to you

[nimble pumice]

simply lawful

[latent palm]

late as always ppp

how is it youre 1 step behind me

even in the class IV scout zone

[blissful dome]

lmao

💀

[crude bay]

well i cant be fast at everything some stuff you need to enjoy slowly

[worthy pine]

ok then where can i put it in the game?

[blissful dome]

yk what you dont have to be fast at~

sorry

[latent palm]

nah you are on some zaza and good vodka right there

[jade dirge]

a red button will pop up in your rundown screen, you cna just hit that and join

[jade dirge]

how

[latent palm]

i saw u walking slow after team called scan

[worthy pine]

oki thanks

[crude bay]

daaamn thanks i forgot to drink some

[latent palm]

stop drinking when im talking lmao

[crude bay]

let me send you vodka pics

[latent palm]

youre making team drink too

[crude bay]

team wanted it hehe

[latent palm]

dang it now i gtg grab my sooju

just bc u said that

[nimble pumice]

you just arent chaotic

[earnest forge]

If anything, you have been very lawfull here

[blissful dome]

its not chaotic if youre just being dumb

lmao

<3

[jade dirge]

how are we judging lawful to chaotic

[blissful dome]

💀

[little ridge]

I'd argue Artek is even more good than I am, to be honest

And perhaps even more lawful

[wraith marsh]

Idk if ragebaiting counts as lawful but sure

[blissful dome]

hm

[jade dirge]

in what way do i rage bait, i speak my exact opinions and views as i believe them

[blissful dome]

honestly i cant tell if sleepy is just genuinely stupid

[true pilot]

he ignores lore. I consider that the worst possible thing to do

[crude bay]

dont be😉

[earnest forge]

Lawful sticks to a set of rules and a narrative. Chaotic does not care about the means, but only the ends.

[jade dirge]

i do not like hel shotgun, i believe it has no use, i love slug shotgun, it has every use, hel gun is ok

[nimble pumice]

you do seem to have a set of rules you follow at all times

[blissful dome]

<3

[jade dirge]

oh then yes, im lawful stupid

[true pilot]

he sticks to the rules, just not the ones we have

[earnest forge]

Works

[jade dirge]

now that i know the criteria i would agree

[wraith marsh]

You repeat them with no context intending to spite the ppl who know otherwise

[blissful dome]

:P

[jade dirge]

my set of rules is very easy to see if you pay attention too

[crude bay]

does anyone want any cake btw i have leftovers

[blissful dome]

id like to consider myself.

[jade dirge]

prioritize damage and reach over stagger, changing look is fine as long as the function is the same, and take things slow as to avoid waste

[earnest forge]

What you just mentioned is the definition of a troll ; but be mindful that feeding a troll only encourages them to keep on pursuing the same mindset.

[crude bay]

what waste?

[blissful dome]

stagger isnt important - sleepy

[jade dirge]

the waste of ammunition and health, both of tool and of weaponry'

time is expendable, resources are to be conserved

[blissful dome]

trolling is ok, mission understood

[wraith marsh]

It's almost like I've not fed them a single time

[crude bay]

just learn to stealth fast and with time reaction time in regards to messing up improves aswell

[latent palm]

i feel like everytime u pull up somebodies trailer park gonna blow up

[jade dirge]

yeah but theres a difference between swift stealth and intentionally waking up rooms

[earnest forge]

Some people can value health as a resource, free to be spent. Classic GTFO motto : "20% HP is 100% HP". I would encourage you to try this mindset a bit at least before judging it completely unfit.
While I would agree this is not my favorite stance, by far, I can understand the appeal it has to many.

[blissful dome]

the difference is experience

[blissful dome]

my free 80 armor points

[jade dirge]

ive tried seeing things that way, but i cant enjoy it

[crude bay]

how do you know something is trully intentional

[high orchid]

easiest way to fast stealth, go for occiput taps on shooters, slight charge on strikers, and don't crouch

[crude bay]

also this

[wraith marsh]

20 hp isn't even a good mindset

[jade dirge]

20 % is close to death, death puts you out of the action and makes your team waste more resources

[earnest forge]

And this is completely acceptable.

[blissful dome]

wait sorry

[wraith marsh]

You don't even need to lose hp

[crude bay]

whaaa

[jade dirge]

it depends, but at times it can be very obvious

[blissful dome]

how else am i supposed to shamelessly take fall damage

</3

[earnest forge]

Now you can just try to understand the other players point of view, even though it does not fit your own.

[high orchid]

and at 20% you regen so damage is meaningless

[little ridge]

Eh "free to be spent" is perhaps a reach and a cope used by people that get hit like 4 times (12x4=48%) while clearing a single room.

[nimble pumice]

take it shamefully

[wraith marsh]

Facts

[blissful dome]

:C

[jade dirge]

i prefer to take things very slow, expending time over resources, since i have tons of time but not a lot of resources

[true pilot]

just dont get hit
The point of playing that way is to conserve meds for stuff that has an actual threat of killing you like alarms

[little ridge]

As far as I see it, I just heal before alarms (or during if the situation calls for it) and that's it

[nimble pumice]

C:

[little ridge]

No 4D chess implied anywhere

[blissful dome]

just kill each other at drop and you dont have to worry about medkits

[wraith marsh]

You can play pretty far from slow and still be safe

[earnest forge]

It may have been used quite often by a few friends of mine, to justify losing all their health at the start of a A-tier mission.

[jade dirge]

yeah but part of not getting hit is working to preserve your resources which, in my opinion, means stealthing whenever reasonable and possible

[wraith marsh]

(And not wasteful)

[blissful dome]

at a what 💀

[jade dirge]

i prefer being slow and certain than rushing through hastily, risking being sloppy

[little ridge]

On the other hand if I know I just need to stealth I dont bother since it's not game-ending unless everyone fucks up

[crude bay]

take it slow R7D2 lemme see the strat

[true pilot]

And like if you have a semi competent team the threat of wiping to stealth fuck ups is minimal

[junior latch]

prefering a playstyle is totally fine

[jade dirge]

r7d2 is a different thing entirely, its a dedicated loud run

[blissful dome]

wiping to stealth is a bit hard

[little ridge]

Yeah that's them coping

[crude bay]

doesnt have to be hehe

[junior latch]

but calling the use of ressources for clearing rooms and the players that use it bad is uuh

[jade dirge]

is it possibel to stealth r7d2?

[blissful dome]

💀

losing it

[true pilot]

its called skill cho you dont understand

[latent palm]

[burnt flume]

Shooting rooms up is only marginally more risky than stealthing

[blissful dome]

whens the stealth r7d2 run

[latent palm]

stealthing R7D2

[blissful dome]

where clip

lemme see it

[burnt flume]

I mean hell, it's probably equal

[junior latch]

it can sometimes be less risky aswell

[crude bay]

not reall stealth but you can take thing a bit slower with the right loadout

[blissful dome]

10/10

[true pilot]

half the mission is stealth but only 1 person does that

[junior latch]

honestly, pretty often its less risky

[burnt flume]

Just depends from.situationn to situation

Yeah if you have mines or a funnel

[little ridge]

Stealth killing normals is way easier than landing hs over hs

[blissful dome]

4 bio 4 hel autopiss 4 scatter 🙏

[crude bay]

wanna do it?

[blissful dome]

not rn

:C

[junior latch]

tbh most experienced parties just pull most of the rooms (outside of pmom)

[blissful dome]

cant

[crude bay]

tomorrow?

[blissful dome]

cant

its weekday

[high orchid]

nah if u are taking a special shotgun w autopp use combat

[burnt flume]

It is, but that is an issue of skill and not being able to protect yourself through gunplay or movement, not stealth being inherently safer

[true pilot]

People pull the funky tank zones?

[blissful dome]

no

[crude bay]

weeked then?

[burnt flume]

For most players, sure

[junior latch]

yea

[little ridge]

Yeah well if you consider a door+mine eh, but still you use a mine, clearing without getting hit once by a striker isn't hard just more time consuming

[wraith marsh]

Full clear baby

[earnest forge]

We do not all have 100 R7D2 completions under the belt

[true pilot]

damn

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[crude bay]

not always

[junior latch]

ive got like 15

[little ridge]

?

[blissful dome]

hm

[latent palm]

i have 31

[little ridge]

I disagree

[wraith marsh]

3 tanks up is the fun part

[junior latch]

recently had 3 tanks first room

was fun

[blissful dome]

tfw 3 tanks but its a pub lobby

[junior latch]

would be hard for newer players tho

[latent palm]

most times i get 1 tank next to door so it was fun

[little ridge]

stealth is hard to fuck up especially if you take your time

[junior latch]

but if i wanted to play it the best way id sneak inside to see whats in there. If tank -> rush kill then go out
if no tank -> free shooting
if multiple tank -> depends on team

[true pilot]

Ngl if i had a choice between stealthing a room like R8D1 hub room and shooting it up ill always shoot it up. Stealthing that is just so much worse

[earnest forge]

I probably have about the same, but I like both sides of the mission and the speed-sneaking through mother zone)

[little ridge]

I mean, if you go REALLY slow it's basically red-light green-light with some twists sprinkled in

[burnt flume]

Yeah stealth is less mechanically intensive but if you know what you're doing, pulling rooms poses little risk anyhow

[junior latch]

mom zone is where id sneak usually too (well i shoot first room if it doesnt have pmom 100% of the time)

[crude bay]

i have a screenshot of 3 stacked at the door

[blissful dome]

<3

[latent palm]

bad luck

[jade dirge]

hey cho, why does everyone despise the slug shotgun

[wraith marsh]

There's also some situations where trying to maintain stealth is riskier than shooting

[crude bay]

was a duo run aaaaaaa

[thick temple]

Nah but we're stupid for it cause we're burning ammo that is completely scarce

[jade dirge]

i love it, it feels good and frees my spec slot for other things, while being a good weapon in my opinion

[blissful dome]

solo 3 tanks lets see it

[earnest forge]

Because it should have been given a greater distance before damage dropoff

[crude bay]

they dont just forcefull takes on it

[junior latch]

i think a good example for this is going into a room past enemies you dont want to stealth yet which will have you pincered if stuff goes wrong

[crude bay]

doable , not fun

[jade dirge]

while i agree i think its still workable

[junior latch]

ive never understood the "workable/viable" point
unless you legit cant win with it everything is workable

[earnest forge]

It is "ok", but cannot compete with other primary weapons as it stands

[little ridge]

That adds extra conditions to a simple scenario tbh for no reason lel

[junior latch]

and gtfo is mostly balanced well enough that even the worst things are still only "weak"

[little ridge]

Like, let me get this straight

[wraith marsh]

Not even really what I mean either

[blissful dome]

<3 very fun

[junior latch]

missunderstood what you meant then at first chill

[serene jewel]

viable is such a useless term

[little ridge]

I rarely stealth giant fog zones on r1b1 even solo, I just wake the whole room and shoot them since they funnel like crazy

[crude bay]

okay if you say so

[earnest forge]

As much as I want to like the weapon and the cool concept of the "1 bullet shotgun", it just does not feel as good as it could.

[jade dirge]

i like the slug shot, while it isnt the most op thing i think its good

[blissful dome]

lyt

[wraith marsh]

I mean like, you get a sick long range in the middle of 5 strikers

[little ridge]

But I wouldn't say that it's safer than just stealthing all of it

[junior latch]

i think the point still stands that going into a stealth situation is often putting you closer to the enemy

[blissful dome]

it feels bad :P

[crude bay]

😊

[blissful dome]

<3

[junior latch]

perfect stealth is "safest"

but with a wake up some stealth scenarios pose more threat than shooting smartly

[wraith marsh]

Ye you also have a point Eva, just a diff one

[little ridge]

Yeah but assuming I'm the only variable and no scouts are there I just stand still and nothing happens

[junior latch]

i guess?

[junior latch]

ye

i see your point now that i thought about it (i hope )

[junior latch]

true
but solo stacked giants are uh also fun stealth (extreme example)

but even with 4 players 2 giants can have smth go wrong

aaah

too much hypothetical arguments in the end

[blissful dome]

:P

[little ridge]

yeah I didnt really mean to go into those cases tbh

[junior latch]

baseline

stealth can be risky if anything goes badly. Which will happen OFTEN because people dont wanna play afk red light green light

[wraith marsh]

I mentioned it cuz it's the situations I lose hp the most in

When we're not just pulling shit at least

[latent palm]

@wicked solstice WERE LOSING ERATA PRIME

I NEED HELLDIVERS

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[wicked solstice]

i have to work

also I died there earlier

[serene jewel]

buy the game for me, I'll help :3

[latent palm]

SHIT

[boreal yew]

Stealth passing 2 moms > one dude still at entrance steps on a baby > I died

[latent palm]

ITS 0.000197%

AND WERE LOSING GRIP FAST

[little ridge]

I dont know, I lose more hp when I'm with people that just wake shit up while I'm bonking occi after occi rather than just me alone taking a tad bit my time

[serene jewel]

yea

[blissful dome]

so real

[blissful dome]

mf doesnt work smh my head

[latent palm]

its 3:33Am

fuck u mean work?

[blissful dome]

<3

[crude bay]

@latent palm need assistance?

[blissful dome]

lyt

[serene jewel]

I had someone shoot a giant when there was a scout in the room

[latent palm]

YES

[crude bay]

Ok

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[wraith marsh]

So a situation where you should just shoot

[little ridge]

On the other hand when I know I can get away with it I just feign to missclick and scatter a giant or two because fuck stealthkilling those

[serene jewel]

scattering a giant is always a valid reason to break stealth

[blissful dome]

you dont have to feign shit

just shoot it

[serene jewel]

and always morally correc

[blissful dome]

no remorse

[little ridge]

Yeah but I still treat that not as option A to be honest

[wraith marsh]

I think we're talking about similar thing, different circumstances

[serene jewel]

I'm joking

[wraith marsh]

Yea exactly

[serene jewel]

well

half

[junior latch]

i think the biggest point is rly that usually safely pulling a room has you take absolute minimal dmg in exchange for ammo/tool (a single mine killing 10+ enemies)

[serene jewel]

I'd scatter two giants in a room

[wraith marsh]

I lose hp cyz it's not option a

[little ridge]

Like, I wouldn't just start shooting on r1b1 first room but I'd perhaps shoot the second because fuck it

I wouldn't say to a newbie to do that thought

Because they'd probably still have an easier time stealthing it

[wraith marsh]

I mean like

Mid stealth

Shit goes bad

[serene jewel]

I just interpreted it as if people are so terrible that they can't stealth a room without taking an hour per room, then they probably will be better off doing that rather than pulling

[wraith marsh]

Try to maintain stealth over shooting

[worthy pine]

hey can i join my friend if the game is cracked?

[serene jewel]

uhhhhhh

probably not

[crude bay]

Yeah.... no

[junior latch]

like say in said r1c2 run

I pulled zone 97 (charger room hub zone)
98/99 i pulled the dark rooms (scouts already both dead)

[little ridge]

I dont think anyone believe me anyway

😄

[blissful dome]

real

[wraith marsh]

Pull and run away is a very safe strat imo

[serene jewel]

yeah like

[junior latch]

[worthy pine]

is that a yes or no?

[serene jewel]

what's worse, waking them in the middle of the room or funnelling all enemies thorugh one doorway

[little ridge]

no

[worthy pine]

i see thanks

[little ridge]

(and dont ask)

[little ridge]

I feel like that's a bit of a loaded question

[jade dirge]

no, that is pirating and not advised, buy the game and support ten chambers since they took the time to make this game

[little ridge]

Assuming I fuck up stealth then usually yes, I'd rather have pulled the room

Assuming the room is bad enough tbh

[lone kestrel]

3 strikers I pull

Two or less I always stealth

[junior latch]

based af take

[lone kestrel]

Simple as

[serene jewel]

lol

low standards

[little ridge]

Day 5: Darkeva started warming up to sleepyboi

[junior latch]

na

[serene jewel]

nah it's a good take

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[high orchid]

you could just gift the game to em

[blissful dome]

@ mods this guy right here

[serene jewel]

rare W

....very rare

[junior latch]

ive been supportive of his actual good takes (and defending him when people attack him for true stuff) since day 1

its just become a bit more common

[nimble pumice]

love is beginning to sprout

[blissful dome]

honestly the only thing i can support sleepy on

[serene jewel]

say gex when

[little ridge]

Note: some signs of tsunderism encountered

[blissful dome]

rn

get in here

[junior latch]

[serene jewel]

🍆

[blissful dome]

<3

[serene jewel]

I will defy the laws of biology and get you pregnant

[serene berry]

can't talk about pirating on the official server Dip

[blissful dome]

honestly the only things ive heard from sleepy are hel shotty bad and ar good

oh right

slug good

[lone kestrel]

GTFO’s greatest content creator loves the AR though

[serene jewel]

well there's the "fast stealth is unnecessarily risky and you're all just too lazy to stealth ''''properly'''"

[junior latch]

the whole weapon debate are uuh
but definetly not awful in itself

[little ridge]

I feel like he has been outright rude (and wrong) a lot of the times but I cant care for some reason

[serene jewel]

nevermind the forced weird naming thing

[little ridge]

Finestben, do you know why they gave a backpack for the year of the rabbit?

Why a backpack?

[blissful dome]

its the way hes wrong that annoys me

if it was just

[junior latch]

ye :/

[blissful dome]

stupid opinions

[little ridge]

You develop games so you have a better chance than me at knowing why

[lone kestrel]

Its cuz of all the CARRYING that goes on around these parts ong

But I have no clue XD

I code stuff, I don’t pick skins 👍

[blissful dome]

like if he just said he didnt like hel shotty it would be fine

[worn basin]

what do you not like about the hel shotgun?

[wraith marsh]

Dont

[jade dirge]

its lack of reach and wide spread mainly

thats my only issue with it

[lone kestrel]

What’s weird about a backpack @little ridge

[sharp owl]

[junior latch]

nuggies
also oh noes

[serene jewel]

I mean there's this dunning-kruger attitude where he can be objectively wrong and refuted and instead of trying to understand it's just doubling down

[little ridge]

Why a backpack for a rabbit?

Do rabbit pack stuff?

[worn basin]

I think that's fair

[little ridge]

Aren't those kangaroos?

[lone kestrel]

lol

[worn basin]

why do you think it has no use case, though?

[blissful dome]

yea

[lone kestrel]

Idk if they wear gas masks either tbh

[nimble pumice]

we getting this going again?

[blissful dome]

<3

[serene jewel]

why not

[blissful dome]

again again~

[lone kestrel]

Maybe we could’ve gotten a bunny ear cosmetic

[blissful dome]

sorry

[sharp owl]

worst case of "im dosghit at the game but think i know everything cos i got carried through 1 D tier" syndrome i've ever seen

[serene jewel]

I'm still waiting for an lfg lmao

[little ridge]

You never saw a tiger with a gasmask?

[blissful dome]

r1d1 hard uwu

just like~

[little ridge]

I did once

[lone kestrel]

Ah I see

[serene berry]

out right rude, wrong,
then sensitive when others are rude back
its a demoralizing combo to witness

[jade dirge]

because of hte reach, its very hard to get things into its effective range

[sharp owl]

hi wheat :3 <3

[serene jewel]

I wanna eat some wheat

[jade dirge]

and i hold a general disdain for stagger, so its just not a prime choice for me really

[blissful dome]

Skill diff

Not the guns issue

[serene jewel]

To be fair hel shotty is a certain playstyle that not everyone will like, but that doesn't change the fact it's S tier

it took me a while to understand it

[lone kestrel]

I can’t post images

[serene jewel]

then it just sorta clicked

[lone kestrel]

But

I found a bunny with a backpack

[serene jewel]

nobody can except mods

[wraith marsh]

Stagger only weapons are kinda cringe but hel shotty isn't in that category

[serene berry]

hey hey Hekitty! play any levels lately? (:

[lone kestrel]

Surely this is what inspired them

[sharp owl]

no im on the drg grind

[serene jewel]

give me hel shotgun guide

[wraith marsh]

I'm in classss

[serene berry]

[serene jewel]

skip

[little ridge]

HEL PP ain't cringe 😠 but I agree on hel shotty

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[serene jewel]

also I almost mistook you for someone else because my friend constantly uses that character as an avatar

[wraith marsh]

Hel pp users should just take hel shotty

Like unironically

[serene berry]

siiick, want to carry a newbie this weekend?

[blissful dome]

Honestly what is stealth only besides helpp

[sharp owl]

yes lets hook up

[serene jewel]

I mean hel pp has a really fast reload tho

[jade dirge]

i guess the things it has going for it are simply not what i value, so its just kinda bad in my opinion

i prefer reach and damage to stagger and utility

[serene berry]

bet

[worn basin]

I think it's fine to say that you don't like the weapon's feel or you don't like the playstyle, but I don't really know of another primary that can full clear a baby wave or kill a wave of nightmare enemies the same way it can

[sharp owl]

in my opinion i am based and correct all the time

[little ridge]

The hybrids I stagger in half a second aren't laughing much

[blissful dome]

So true bae

[jade dirge]

autopiss/machine pistol i believe

[serene jewel]

also one of the only primary weapons that can one-mag a giant from the front

[lone kestrel]

Is sniper still cringe?

[worn basin]

I'm not flaming you, I just didn't know if you knew about those situations

[wraith marsh]

But you don't understand the things it has going for it

[blissful dome]

Nng~

Sorry

[wraith marsh]

Or else you wouldn't call it a stagger wep

[blissful dome]

This

[serene berry]

from my perspective the jedi are evil!

[serene jewel]

what was that

[lone kestrel]

Well then you are lost!

[jade dirge]

it has damage, but to effectively use that damage you have to be so close that its more risk than its truly worth in my opinion

[junior latch]

both of those arent... great at either of these

i think hel revo and rifle are the best after hel shotty for babies?

[serene jewel]

what about mg

[junior latch]

correct me if im missing smth

mains

[paper sigil]

they can't attack if they're staggered/dead

[wraith marsh]

But what is the point of a stagger weapon up close?

[blissful dome]

This is not a main

[worn basin]

It def does require you to change your positioning when playing the gun a lot and I think it's fair to not like the gun for that

[wraith marsh]

To stop you from taking damage?

[serene jewel]

right

[nimble pumice]

hel auto pistol is ok at killing, no?

[wraith marsh]

Not rly

[blissful dome]

Meh

[worn basin]

but I think saying that is has no use case is just objectively wrong

[blissful dome]

It's meh now but

[wraith marsh]

It's much better than before but it's still shit

[jade dirge]

i siad i find no use for it

[nimble pumice]

not good, but okay

[worn basin]

sorry if I misread, then

[serene jewel]

what

[jade dirge]

i dont like it, it doesnt match my style of play or value in guns, so i dont like it

[serene berry]

don't make me destroy down you on extract

[serene jewel]

I thought the hel auto was decent now

[wraith marsh]

Not for killing

[serene jewel]

see this is fine

[little ridge]

I think it's "fine"

[serene jewel]

saying it's one of the worst guns isn't

huge difference

[worn basin]

for sure, maybe I misread what you said

[little ridge]

It really needs other players to dish out the damage

but that stagger value is enourmous

[blissful dome]

You're gonna go down on them on extract???

[wraith marsh]

I think my main problem with hel pp is its not self sufficient

[nimble pumice]

yeah that I would agree with

[worn basin]

ty for providing your insight tho, I personally didn't like the gun myself when I first started playing it, so it is interesting to me to see the pov of someone else

[serene jewel]

yeah I feel like a support class when I tried hel pp

and I didn't like that

[little ridge]

yes of course

[wraith marsh]

Like it is very good

[junior latch]

chill dude, a question

you mean compared to the other rly good mains. or in general?

[nimble pumice]

but I think it meshes really well with something that can support it

[wraith marsh]

For killing power on hel pp?

[little ridge]

I mean I can stagger a single giant to death

[serene jewel]

it felt so wasteful having to kill things on my own

[little ridge]

But I've no idea of the efficiency about that shit, I'm sure Darkeva does

[wicked solstice]

Hell pp scatter

[junior latch]

cuz i think for the first i agree
but in comparision to the other main full autos its actually pretty close at this point. But they are ... ya know

[wicked solstice]

Best combo

[jade dirge]

danke for hearing me out, most just assume im an idiot and run with that

[lone kestrel]

It’s over anakin, I have the high ground ladder cheese

[junior latch]

sleepy can you please stop the random german words

[worn basin]

nah, I think it was just a wording interpretation thing

[serene jewel]

isn't danke correct

[wraith marsh]

In general mainly, being close to the autos is a very low bar to me

[serene jewel]

lol

[junior latch]

ye thats why id agree

[blissful dome]

Not sleepy randomly saying amigo like an hour ago

[worn basin]

and np, I think some of the joy in the game is finding guns you like

everything can work

[jade dirge]

its the same reason i love slug, one of the most universally disliked weapons

[worn basin]

and if you enjoy it, whatever

make it work

LOL

[junior latch]

i think its less slug being universally disliked. And just being rated pretty low

[jade dirge]

it has reach and immediate, hard hitting thunk to it, it feels good to use and overall is interesting

[high orchid]

bro sleepy be using german like how weebs use japanesw

[little ridge]

Ask him in German, yelling (so in German).

[blissful dome]

Doesn't artek like it?

[junior latch]

but as nuggies said
play what you like (just uh, dont expect to always have success unless you get rly rly good)

[nimble pumice]

is he a geeaboo?

[lost lynx]

IFO, is that you?

[junior latch]

i like it too

[junior latch]

oy

[wraith marsh]

I like slug, but it isn't good

[serene berry]

nani?

[blissful dome]

Pable <3

[paper sigil]

i like slug but i don't make up strengths for it

[little ridge]

No clue but he calls Tanks "Stugs"

[sharp owl]

sleepyboi is gonna beat r8e2 with slug and short rifle and prove all the haters wrong about him

[nimble pumice]

the immortals

[blissful dome]

Bozo is a wehraboo

[nimble pumice]

get the lore right

[jade dirge]

Slug and hel gun

[wraith marsh]

Slug har is pretty fun

[lost lynx]

slug and sniper fun combo to use

[burnt flume]

yeah, you can play what you want but you should acknowledge that your preference at the moment is informed by inexperience and there is a reason hel shotgun is highly regarded. Characterising your opinion as the fact that "hel shotgun is bad" has been the cause of like 17 arguments in the past month

[worn basin]

[junior latch]

i rly enjoyed slug and veruta as an idea

just uh slug short range was painful at times

[jade dirge]

hel gun for general horde clearing and distance utility, slugger for slapping scouts and such

[blissful dome]

Why is the main appeal shooting scouts wtf

[wraith marsh]

I like the har pairing cuz you can finish kills with no charge up

[burnt flume]

i don't think I can take any more, and I am not about to go to a dessert shop as a coping mechanism

[wraith marsh]

And uptime is high on it

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[junior latch]

honestly do it anyway
dessert sounds good rn

[sharp owl]

i love the slug shotgun cos not only can it headshot scouts you can also one shot charger scouts in the back if u get pretty close, very good utility from a singular weapon imo

[burnt flume]

it is but I just opened and starting eating a pack of biscuits

and I have a small handful of sweets too

[junior latch]

hm true
short rifle ?

[high orchid]

same can be said for sawed off

[burnt flume]

plus, well, I can always go to the dessert shop, it's like 4-5 mins away

[wraith marsh]

If only short rifle wasn't dogshit

[blissful dome]

The true way to kill charger scout is combat shotty double tap

[burnt flume]

might get some celebratory cake when the swelling in my mouth is gone

[sharp owl]

click faster

[wraith marsh]

Cuz it is a good pair in modded rebalances

[junior latch]

no quite litteraly
hekitty said smth that is just sawed off, not slug

[blissful dome]

Still dog water

[sharp owl]

dont ruin it

[lost lynx]

dog water is tasty tho

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[blissful dome]

uwu

[junior latch]

[lost lynx]

did you know

sleepers sleep

🛏️

[blissful dome]

Fake

[little ridge]

Bees sleep and have dreams too

[blissful dome]

Real

[junior latch]

oh btw @serene berry what are you doin this saturday (well potentially different due to time zones)

[lost lynx]

Eva

how does the event works exactly

[junior latch]

[lost lynx]

me dumb

[serene berry]

he is getting dangerously close to

1. not stating his opinions as facts
2. not being rude as fuck about it
   good work everyone who had the patience for him, you are actually doing gods work

[blissful dome]

Real

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[serene berry]

whatever you are about to mention actually

[lost lynx]

GGs

i definitely didnt had the patience for him

[junior latch]

its a tournament bracket
you and another player matchup vs another team of 2

you get a bingo board of gtfo challenges. You get 1 min to read the challenges before you are allowed to drop
then if you finish one you claim it (the other team cant get it anymore). And whoever gets 5 out of 9 first wins and advances

[nimble pumice]

a "good work", for me??

[junior latch]

[lost lynx]

i see

so its duos vs duos

[serene berry]

a "god's work" even

[lost lynx]

sounds interesting

[nimble pumice]

[junior latch]

atm ive got like 9 teams mostly safe
potentially 10

so for more fun time balance im looking for a few more interested people

[serene berry]

i am implying i am free, and am interested inwhatevr you are building up to

[junior latch]

<t:1710010800:f> this time btw

[serene jewel]

I tried to two tap a charger scout with hel rifle and it turned around

[junior latch]

gtfo lockout bingo

slightly explanation above

[blissful dome]

No timezone uwu

[lost lynx]

you got scouted

skill issue

[junior latch]

no its automatically adjusted to your timezone @blissful dome

[serene jewel]

fk u

[blissful dome]

Ah

[fleet kettle]

at least whatever's their pc set.

[serene berry]

ohh that sounds like a blast, i am down

[fleet kettle]

some of the things in win heavily depend on locale.

[serene berry]

the event is at 12PM saturday in your time zone right?

what time is it for you right now?

[junior latch]

8pm saturday my time zone

10 pm rn

[serene jewel]

what event

oh

I see

[junior latch]

hm ?

[serene jewel]

disregard

[junior latch]

[upbeat geyser]

Gtfo tournament?

[junior latch]

yea

still looking for people who might be interested

[nimble pumice]

what about a direct pvp tournament

[junior latch]

[upbeat geyser]

About to look at some nasty 360 sniper shots

[nimble pumice]

wait so you get to shoot at the people you are competing against?

[upbeat geyser]

That would be evil

[junior latch]

basically doin challenges quicker than the other team to advance into the next round

[nimble pumice]

what if you kill them?

[junior latch]

different lobby so

[nimble pumice]

ohhh

[upbeat geyser]

That sounds intresting to watch tho

[junior latch]

it will be streamed (by me spectating and by some participants on twitch aswell)

but yea

if anyone finds the idea interesting
The gtfo bingo tournament is at this time <t:1710010800:F> (auto adjusts to your timezone) and people are still free to enter.
(2 players per team)

[jade dirge]

Because scout slapping is fun

[blissful dome]

I mean fair enough ig

It just

[jade dirge]

The slug shot makes a satisfying clink when you fire it yoo

[wraith marsh]

Facts

[jade dirge]

The clink and just seeing a scout fall over is so fun

[nimble pumice]

stabbing a scout in the back of the head with a knife is cooler though

[blissful dome]

This

[jade dirge]

It is fun but have you ever heard the audible clink and the plap of a scout?

[worn basin]

sometimes you just want to shoot a scout

I can get behind that

[nimble pumice]

the plap of a scout you say?

[blissful dome]

Scattergun is avaliable

[blissful dome]

Nggg~

Sorry

[jade dirge]

Exactly, sometimes there's just a scout that needs shot and slug shots the tool to do it

[nimble pumice]

[blissful dome]

But sawed off

[jade dirge]

Sawn lacks the reach of slug

[blissful dome]

Hm

Honestly the only thing that gives me dopamine shooting scouts is like bc and scatter

[serene jewel]

hel rifle for me

but also just

melee

far exceeds the satisfaction of shooting one

[blissful dome]

Yea

[jade dirge]

Scatter is nice but it's just so imprecise

With slug you just reach out and tap a bastard

[junior latch]

tbh scout killing is just not that rare in the end

[blissful dome]

You ever run up to a giant/hybrid and slide shot it?

[jade dirge]

No

[blissful dome]

Very fun

[jade dirge]

But I have quickdrawn a tank with sawn, that was pretty nice

[cosmic echo]

BTW

any tips for hel gun

cus i have a severe skill issue on it

[jade dirge]

Rose shot him twice with scatter, tank turned, I dropped the mwp and hit him as I was raising it

[blissful dome]

Hit pens and headshots

There not much to say

Idk

[cosmic echo]

i gotta practice with it more

[blissful dome]

Real

[blissful dome]

Yea

[junior latch]

you know how to get line ups?

aside from that. when getting line ups, its fine to not headshot

[jade dirge]

Go for heads and prioritize groups, it's easier to pen them

[cosmic echo]

im usually the scatter shotgun dude

with either burst or hel revo

[cosmic echo]

scatter or combat shottie*

due to circumstances had to use the hel gun did not go well lmao

[pallid anvil]

hmm

[blissful dome]

Learn to run both idk

:P

[cosmic echo]

hel shottie and and hel gun are a nice combo tho cant eat shit on that

[burnt flume]

for hel gun play with it to learn the charge up

[jade dirge]

You were the scatter guy, no?

[burnt flume]

if you hit a bodyshot instead of a headshot, you can swap to your primary to finish up

[cosmic echo]

noted

[burnt flume]

take all the time you need with aiming shots

[blissful dome]

#gtfo-media message

Fun

[jade dirge]

If you run double heavy, like slug and hel gun, I'd swap to a melee to follow up if close enough

[burnt flume]

it's important not to feel pressured into getting value out of the penetration all the time, most important thing is keeping yourself safe from licks

[cosmic echo]

yea

[blissful dome]

^

[cosmic echo]

and considering i have the mentality of well

a shotgunner

doesnt help

[blissful dome]

The gun is still workable without pen

[cosmic echo]

i eat crayons on any game

[burnt flume]

yea it's still a damn good gun

[cosmic echo]

i play titan

ffs

on destiny

[jade dirge]

For once I agree with pachi, health is rarer than bullets

Conserve health over ammo if possible

[burnt flume]

I mean people overstate class identity/stereotypes in destiny

[cosmic echo]

yea

[burnt flume]

most destiny 2 players are crayon eaters, not exactly the brightest bunch

[cosmic echo]

my roles most of the time were add clear

[burnt flume]

anyhow, yeah

uh

[cosmic echo]

with titan and shotguns

but thats pretty much half of gtfo

[pallid anvil]

and you were the downed girl right?

[blissful dome]

Damn

[jade dirge]

No, this was at the start of the one run

[burnt flume]

the thing about this is most the time when I am talking about gun strength or playing with a gun, it's objectively correct so disagreeing is a bit questionable

[cosmic echo]

yea

[jade dirge]

Remember, the tank turned, I was holding the projector, dropped it and shot the guy

I got downed on a later tank

[cosmic echo]

like any gun in this game with enough practice can be good in the hands of someone

[pallid anvil]

sorry I only remember sad and unpleasent moments

[cosmic echo]

they just gotta play with it a lot

[pallid anvil]

like you getting dcd

[blissful dome]

Where did you guys fail e2 anyhow

[pallid anvil]

waking up scouts

lagging

[jade dirge]

I remember what I did really well and really shittily

[cosmic echo]

and considering my friends barely play on and off and with uni i dont habe time to do that

[burnt flume]

yeah, that always goes round, your gun choice will rarely be the defining mistake of a run

[jade dirge]

Dc's and lags aren't even my fault

[cosmic echo]

hel shotgun combat shottie combo my beloved

[pallid anvil]

we got to nightmare class 6 once 😭

[jade dirge]

It's been raining fir a week straight

[cosmic echo]

unironically can work but dont recommend

[burnt flume]

here, take this https://www.ed.ac.uk/reflection/reflectors-toolkit/reflecting-on-experience/gibbs-reflective-cycle

[blissful dome]

The first one?

[jade dirge]

Gotta go to class, adios

[pallid anvil]

yes

[blissful dome]

Damn

[pallid anvil]

and then sleepy foam went hard

lost door 1st scan

[blissful dome]

Hard~ I'm so sorry

[jade dirge]

The shades are tough alright, I can't hear them and lights off so I can't see them

[alpine arrow]

what does ALT mean in rundowns?

[cosmic echo]

alternate

[rose nova]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized

[burnt flume]

ALT rundowns are effectively remastered versions of older rundowns which were once removed from the game

[muted wave]

hey we got there twice >:(

[jade dirge]

It's an updated version of the rundowns, reintroduced

[pallid anvil]

sorry

fish memory

[cosmic echo]

btw anyone uh down to do r5c3 with me tmmrw

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[muted wave]

we didn't start it the second time tho cause 2 scout scatter LOL

[cosmic echo]

im going in blind

[alpine arrow]

understood, thx

[muted wave]

but we were pretty much there so i consider it getting to class VI twice 😌

[pallid anvil]

the unpleasant incident

[blissful dome]

Coping

[pallid anvil]

ammo in a 2 scout room with like 15 enemies 😭

[muted wave]

<3

3 minutes on clock or something btw LOL

[pallid anvil]

no no

we had 6

[muted wave]

nvm it was 6

[blissful dome]

This doesn't count as making it there

Lmao

[pallid anvil]

6 AFTER that zone term

[blissful dome]

LMAO

[unreal crystal]

ifo it was better when u didnt talk here

[pallid anvil]

cause someone shot in A

after respawn

[blissful dome]

<3

[burnt flume]

I mean there's worse offenders...

always a bigger fish...

[unreal crystal]

at least they dont waste my time in r4e1 lol

[muted wave]

we were stable 😌

[burnt flume]

they would if you opened a pub lobby

[muted wave]

that could've been it if i didn't die to fall damage TvT

still so sad about that

[unreal crystal]

i think they'd cross the fog instead of jumping around dying to fall damage over there pachi

[pallid anvil]

tev form of stable = killing everything even if we are all 0 ,0 on ammo 20% health and like not a single tool picked up

😭

[muted wave]

I MEAN YOU'VE PLAYED WITH ME, YOU KNOW THAT'S STABLE

[pallid anvil]

true :3

[burnt flume]

eh, I've had worse in my pubs

[muted wave]

r8b3 charger scan we were like all 0 0 but a scan done is a scan done

[blissful dome]

Hm

[burnt flume]

mans was running out of s1 scan like 7 times for no reason then fog diving after cells

[pallid anvil]

cute scan :3

[muted wave]

mhmmm

chargers lining up to come see us

[pallid anvil]

need to get used to helgun

[muted wave]

YEAHH

it's my fav gun it's fun to play

[pallid anvil]

practice makes perfect

(eventually)

[muted wave]

you got this i believe in you

[pallid anvil]

:3

I don't

my aim was like sub 50% on B3 with it

[muted wave]

i see i see

it's okay better than mine i prommy

as long as enemies die (:

[pallid anvil]

I disagree

[muted wave]

well what do you struggle with for the hel gun? :0

charge up?

[cosmic echo]

Usually im the scatter or combat shotgun man since i play in a duo but my guy is playing helldivers so im stuck with learning hel gun for pubs aswell

Cmon geforce release helldivers 2 on there i can only play gtfo and genshit

[pallid anvil]

dont think it's the charge up it's more like every time I wanna shoot I remember is shooting worth it if im only killing 1 but it has pierce so I hesitate

[cosmic echo]

To be fair hel gun gets a lot of ammo back from refills

So its worth to use

Any time you can or need to

[muted wave]

ahhh i see i see

[junior latch]

at this point hel gun even with only bodyshots on single targets is ok efficiency wise

[muted wave]

yeah i used to do that but it would lead to me not shooting ever so i just

shoot lol

i treat it like a revolver now

pen is extra nice but no is okay too

IS THAT WHY YOUR AMMO BALANCE WAS SUS AT ONE POINT

10% MAIN 90% HEL GUN

LOL

[cosmic echo]

I am guilty of that with hel shotgun aswell

And hel gun

🗿

[muted wave]

im guilty of that with any gun 😌

[cosmic echo]

Real

[wispy bluff]

Imagine not using your special first

[cosmic echo]

Tbh i wanna try a few combos

[pallid anvil]

it wasnt THAT bad

[cosmic echo]

Burst hell gun/combat shottie or hel shottie machine gun/ hel rifle

[pallid anvil]

it was 50% 98%

[cosmic echo]

Also i just realized is that the fucken rhino warframe

[muted wave]

oh i see i see

sorry goldfish memory (:

but yea rose go ham spam that hel gun

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[cosmic echo]

Hell yeah brother fellow rhino player

[cosmic echo]

Hel gun and combat shottie feel like that

Hell,combat shotgun is my primary sometimes

[pallid anvil]

will try and will do

[pallid anvil]

also not you talking about ammo balance girl

GRRR

4% 86% sniper in r2d2

[muted wave]

SHHHHHHHH WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT

IM TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS FUNNY NOT CAUSE IM CALLING YOU BAD FOR IT

[muted wave]

and only half the giants were dying 😌

[pallid anvil]

other half was untouched :3

[muted wave]

TvT

hey they all died in the end that's all that matters

[burnt flume]

I mean tbh if I took sniper I wouldn't want to fire it that much either

but I'm washed up with sniper so hey

[pallid anvil]

true :3 we got out

[muted wave]

yeah i still try to save sniper a lot but we also had provisions so I shoulda just... shot

[muted wave]

YAAA

[sharp owl]

hi guys are we ok rn

is everyone safe

no antagonizers in chat

[pallid anvil]

im here :3

[lost lynx]

did you know

||hel shotgun is|| ||a|| ||bad|| ||gun||

[muted wave]

i'm the biggest antagonizer you know

[sharp owl]

if you took a 3 year course in how to antagonize 101 and came back you'd still not be half the antagonist as some other ppl in this chat

[thick temple]

that's so true

[sharp owl]

real and true breastie

[muted wave]

D:

are you doubting my ability to learn

[sharp owl]

you stand no chance

[muted wave]

that's so mean 💔

[sharp owl]

ily <33

[muted wave]

:(

[junior latch]

tev ->

[analog flicker]

Eva vs Kartoffel

[muted wave]

😭

[analog flicker]

Speaking of which. The last I cooked kartoffels. I end up making shitty waffle fries.

(Which ngl. Was probably more a hash brown than that.)

Mod2fast2furious

[sharp owl]

@muted wave whens our r8e2 duo

[mystic moss]

i thought you quit gtfo

[sharp owl]

uhhhhhh

kinda, i havent played gtfo in a while, mostly playing cs and modded drg

[muted wave]

i don't think i want to duo that level 😭

[sharp owl]

sometimes i join chat to cause chaos

(r7e1 reference)

[muted wave]

or any e tier level for that matter

[sharp owl]

r8e1 feasibly duoable

[serene berry]

are you the one who woke up pablo?

[muted wave]

probs but does that really count

[sharp owl]

yeah, its still a good duo accomplishment, not nearly as insane as any of the other E tiers but still cool

[muted wave]

oh no yeah definitely a cool clear :D

i just meant it doesn't have the same weight as "E tier duo"

r8e1 being what it is

[earnest forge]

It is a fun, short level. Although it does not belong with the other E-tier ones, it was placed here to fit the narative of R8

[muted wave]

mhmmm!

it is an e tier story impact wise 😌

[sharp owl]

yeah

it is a very fun level also imo

the end morseso

[hidden flame]

goat did it again a few hour ago

[storm quartz]

Would have been more fun if they fit it with E2 a little more, remove the checkpoint door and put a mom and tank fight after that door like the complex is falling apart above us constantly

[nimble pumice]

r8e1 duo is easy

[mystic moss]

is it fucked up to eat goat cheese

[sharp owl]

goat i love you <3

[hidden flame]

cheese is tasty

[mystic moss]

what's the human equivalent of a goat eating goat cheese

[nimble pumice]

only bad things come to mind

[coarse grail]

human eating human salami

[nimble pumice]

just like that?

[hidden flame]

maybe that one reddit story of stupid diabetic not bringing sweets on hike with female friend but that so uncomfortable to talk about

[nimble pumice]

what?

[blissful dome]

Yo what

[earnest forge]

...

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[hidden flame]

did i miss message?

[nimble pumice]

yea you missed out on making 90K bucks

[hidden flame]

oh it just boring crypto scam then

[earnest forge]

Do not worry ; I am sure we will have plenty more ponzi schemes posted

[wispy bluff]

Remember people: you'll have to teach your children about dangerous of internet and not trusting a single thing the hot babes in your area say

[nimble pumice]

I will force my children to play runescape

[hidden flame]

i think it best to keep children off internet until mid teenage year

maybe 15-16

[nimble pumice]

so they get scammed for their precious precious items

and then never ever again

[wispy bluff]

Unfortunately trial by fire is the best teacher, yes...

Got scammed out of a whole $1 one day

Never again

[hidden flame]

it best not to compromise home network or computer with virus though

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[pseudo sedge]

use a virtual box to test the virus if u want to

[hidden flame]

i am healthcare goat, not system security goat

[sharp owl]

fluffy goat, happy goat

[lost lynx]

pat the goat

[hidden flame]

goat will take all your love

🤍

[pseudo sedge]

if u are bored u just install VirtualBox, make sure there are no shared folders, disable VM to VM communication, use read only disks, configure VM to use network isolation features such as Host-Only networking u should be fine to run pretty much any virus

[pseudo sedge]

take this with precaution tho, it is still possible to break the VM however the chances are low

[jagged citrus]

why do you have a virus

[hidden flame]

it not worth the risk for something not interesting for me

[pseudo sedge]

hey, not my fault i wanna dox the guy who is trying to get my credit card info

[jagged citrus]

that sounds like absolutely your fault

but also very based

carry on

[river marlin]

[nimble pumice]

bug typing

[analog flicker]

[nimble pumice]

[opal cove]

@sharp owl Danke

[jade dirge]

finally back from class

[hidden flame]

what class? i guess boring one lol

[radiant cape]

I mentioned this in general but I think it was meant to be here... anyone looking for a player? Preferably would like to play from the beginning? I bought this game when it first came out, played it for all of ten hours, then had no one to play with as the guy I bought it with returned it.

[lost lynx]

you can find all kind of people in LFG

maybe you find a static squad

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[radiant cape]

thanks

[jade dirge]

hel gun fucks

[quartz cape]

HI SLEEPYBOI

[unreal crystal]

it sure does

[jade dirge]

evening

[wraith marsh]

mountainman didnt get sent back to the brainwashing camp, this is massive

[jade dirge]

i just ripped through a wall of chargers in r7d2 with my buddy max, killed a couple grabbers too

snatchers, whatever they're called, teh tentacle back bastards

[unreal crystal]

snatchers

or pouncers

[jade dirge]

whatever you want to call them, the things that grab you

killed one of those with it

i need a main gun for dealing with bigger targets, like snatchers, cause slug shot is a little lacking in damage on hard to head enemies

[paper sigil]

sawed off

[jade dirge]

maybe, whats its damage, pump?

[paper sigil]

30

[jade dirge]

so its got pump damage, not bad

[paper sigil]

also mag dumps fast

[burnt flume]

woah, character development

realising that slug shotgun isn't the best for bigger enemies

this isn't on the bingo card

[wraith marsh]

theres not gonna be a better snatcher option in main than sawed off

[burnt flume]

^

[wraith marsh]

it ignores stagger multi so autopistol and hel shotty wont work as well

[burnt flume]

you can probably force hel shotty into it regardless of the stagger multi not applying

[wraith marsh]

(its hard to get the 4 shots in with hel shotty before it grabs someone, but if you just want to execute it its still ok)

[burnt flume]

but sawed off will still be the most effective

[jade dirge]

so packing a pistol is my best bet, just pack it with 12 gauge

[burnt flume]

iirc easiest thing to deal with snatcher is high damage single shot weapons like shotguns, high cal, burst cannon even

so I don't quite think a pistol is what you're looking for

[jade dirge]

this is for general big targets, tanks, giants, general problems that dont need precision

they just need to die, and right the fuck now

[burnt flume]

burst cannon for range scattergun for cqc

[wraith marsh]

sniper is also pretty good for most of them rn but its kinda