gtfo-chat

[pine root]

you are a bulletin board

[lost lynx]

thanks? i guess

[wicked solstice]

How the fuck did there’s a autocorrect to three eggs

[pine root]

this is an insult

[lost lynx]

thanks then

[rich hull]

why

[pine root]

why

what

[lost lynx]

I love getting insulted

[pine root]

most bottoms do

unfo

[wicked solstice]

Dusty got pinged

[rich hull]

i get pingged for something from the 2019

[wicked solstice]

XD

[lost lynx]

Dusty old af

[wicked solstice]

the timer goes off in like 30 days

He was counting something

[rich hull]

we were counting something

when dusty talks on gtfo is for something of gtfo

[wicked solstice]

interesting, maybe it was the R2 release

Because back then, the timer was built into the game

[sharp owl]

bullpup rifle do or dont?

[pine root]

back when we got updates

[wicked solstice]

but R2 was march

[pine root]

i would rather pub

than play bullpup

and i think pubs are self harm tbh

[mellow hedge]

Bullpup is basically asking to be bullied

Not just by people but by sleepers as well

[high orchid]

I'm just glad my dtr was never turned into a shit weapon

[jade dirge]

bad shotgun

[wicked solstice]

i mean I use it well, and it’s really good

[high orchid]

don't start this shit again man

[wicked solstice]

yeah, it always was one

me when

When i

honestly I actually really like DTR on paper

i just have shit precision aim

[jade dirge]

i like dtr too but dmr is just better

[wicked solstice]

So I use hel shotgun and AR instead

because well, it’s just better for me

also hel shotgun is just broken lol

Hard carried my R7 clears

[high orchid]

dmr is more consistent in terms of getting that efficiency but dtr feels nicer to 1 burst

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

[high orchid]

esp on those crawling stikers

those are piss easy to 1 burst

[wicked solstice]

True

But they have to be crawling

[high orchid]

not really

I can decently get 1 burst on walking sleepers

[wicked solstice]

I think when I used it, I figured best strat is to let recoil carry 2nd shot to head

[high orchid]

just gotta hit neck shots

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

but yeah, when I really got into the game, hel shotgun was an insane weapon

I mean still is

Carried R7B3, C1, C2, D1, D2

so I didn’t touch many other mains throughout R7 and ALT R1

[high orchid]

hel shotgun is wild

[wicked solstice]

idk how it never got nerfed

The firerate thing was basically a new player handicap buff

[jade dirge]

because its already terrible

you dont need a nerf to make it suck

[wicked solstice]

For you, yes

[rose nova]

bako, why u use ar when heavy smg

and i dont mean stats

just feel C:

[jade dirge]

i would trade a few shells in the mag for a better choke

[wicked solstice]

:) why do you think I stopped using hel shottie

[jade dirge]

because its got no range

[high orchid]

hel shotgun spread helps so much

you can kill like 3 or 4 guys in 2-3 shots if you get pen on some hits

[jade dirge]

the spread is why it sucks

[high orchid]

you just have a skill issue

[jade dirge]

no, it has no range due to its spread

[rose nova]

:D

[lost lynx]

kiting the convo again

[rose nova]

pro gamer

[high orchid]

yeah it doesnt have much range

[wicked solstice]

it was too good

[high orchid]

and is a shotgun it shouldnt have much range

[wicked solstice]

just felt so nasty to use

[rose nova]

:[

[jade dirge]

yeah but its range is even worse than every other shotgun

[high orchid]

not really

[lost lynx]

slug shotgun enters the chat

[high orchid]

slug is ass

it is the worst shotgun

[wicked solstice]

It literally has 1m less than slug shottie

And is infinitely better than that gun

[thick temple]

hatsune pls
this whole discussion happened like an hour ago

[high orchid]

and I was in class

[lost lynx]

LOL

I THINK SLEEPY BLOCKED ME

[thick temple]

i beg

[pine root]

Get your word in king

[rose nova]

real

[jade dirge]

ye sbut slug is one projectile, hel is a handful of projectiles just yeeted in a general direction

[high orchid]

aim

[lost lynx]

use your mouse

[pine root]

I want to to. Ngl you got mega brat energy

[lost lynx]

bro what

[pine root]

Idk

[jade dirge]

aim doesnt help when the gun refuses to go where you aim it

[pine root]

what to tell you

[lost lynx]

im the most friendly discord server user ever

:)

[high orchid]

you need aim in this game

[pine root]

Yeah but you are more bratty than slendi

Idk

[lost lynx]

damn

[rose nova]

:3

[lost lynx]

Slendi is bratty

[rose nova]

:[

[pine root]

Na

[lost lynx]

[coarse grail]

Slendi is just a helpful lil guy

[lost lynx]

true

[rose nova]

:3

[lost lynx]

he carried me through the early game

[rose nova]

thanks !

[lost lynx]

"carry"

[jade dirge]

aim isnt helpful where the guns wont shoot where you point

[pine root]

Just will the gun to shoot in the correct spot

Maybe by aiming at the target

[rose nova]

someone needs to clip holdin the r6d4 surge with hel shottie and send it to sleepy

[jade dirge]

the hel shotgun has "super wide choke"

[pine root]

Are you using the circle as a guide to its spread by chance

[jade dirge]

i will not watch it, it will not matter

[wraith stratus]

[high orchid]

that's a skill issue for you man I have no issue with aiming hel shotgun

[lost lynx]

[jade dirge]

when the shotgun sends pellets super wide to either direction, it doesnt matter where i aim

[pine root]

I just realized why this emote is

And I hate it

[lost lynx]

LMAO

[jade dirge]

the pellets dont give a damn where im pointing, they do as they please

[high orchid]

press w and move closer

[wraith stratus]

It kinda still does

[high orchid]

you have a skill issue man

[lost lynx]

why you hate it?

[pine root]

What fov r you on again

[lost lynx]

you have trauma or something?

[jade dirge]

getting too close and i may as well jsut use a hammer

[high orchid]

yeah that's not always viable

[rose nova]

me hammerin a surge

[high orchid]

^

[rose nova]

[lost lynx]

did he encountered a surge alarm yet in the first place?

[wraith stratus]

me when I camp a ladder top

[thick temple]

he was taken to r2e1 i'm pretty sure i heard

[rose nova]

uh no

or mayb

idk

[lost lynx]

he door glitched it

[rose nova]

then

[lost lynx]

it doesnt count

[ivory sky]

its meant for hitting more then one enemy at once to stagger them

[jade dirge]

why stagger, just kill

[rose nova]

it has dmg to kill but stagger on top of it

its not a stagger weapon

also has pen

[jade dirge]

death is a permenant stagger, the only good infected is a dead infected

[rose nova]

so hits behind the enemies

[high orchid]

sometimes killing is worse than staggering

[thick temple]

i thought i heard he got taken there again
though i think that was the run i was hearing you guys were on together

[thick temple]

repeated message!!!!

[high orchid]

ie surge alarm

[ivory sky]

when there are more enemies its better to stagger some and cancel damage from them

[thick temple]

also as far as a surge is concerned
it's really not permanent stagger

just elongated

and is a health regenerator

[jade dirge]

yes, when peopel say the same things over and over, i give the same response

[ivory sky]

fair

[rose nova]

i want to record holdin out an alarm with only hel shotty but ik it wont do nothin

[jade dirge]

also hi lurker

[thick temple]

identically the same message is a bit different than just saying the same things lol
but whatever it really doesn't matter

[ivory sky]

hello

[coarse grail]

late to a lot of this discussion but I kinda agree with Sleepy's takes on stealth clearing rooms

[wraith stratus]

Lurker, my favorite GTFO streamer that streams pixelated w40k

[ivory sky]

lighting psyker kills bitrate

[lost lynx]

Do it

[coarse grail]

I know you can shoot most rooms and its faster and fine but I enjoy stealth clearing and losing health for no reason is annoying

[lost lynx]

commit mass murder

[rose nova]

:D

[lost lynx]

Slendi

when are we playing together again

i can kill scouts now

[wraith stratus]

Me when I scattergun a shooter in the back of the head close range

[rose nova]

are u sure

[lost lynx]

yup

[wicked solstice]

has sleepy, perchance TRIED hel shotgun since he started disliking it?

[jade dirge]

many times

[burnt flume]

I know he used in the world famous r1c2

[wicked solstice]

idk, but usually if I think I dislike a gun, when I give it another go, I realize I was the issue

Hel revo, carbine, hel rifle, burst cannon

Etc etc

[burnt flume]

it might be that the hel shotgun gets considerably better when you're not a newer player because, well

[wicked solstice]

Actually

Also hel shotgun

[burnt flume]

it's rough when you don't understand the dynamics of the game nearly as well

[wicked solstice]

I initially disliked it, because I thought it didn’t do enough damage

KEK

[lost lynx]

same

[jade dirge]

idk, i hated hel shot when i first tried it, and i hate it now

[lost lynx]

i tried to kill a scout point blank with hel shotgun
didnt worked
hated the gun
LOL

[burnt flume]

yeah I didn't really like how it felt compared to combat shotty because of one shots on strikers

[jade dirge]

ive tried it like 5 times, but with how i expect a shotgun to act ill never like it

[wicked solstice]

I normally use uhhh

Hel shotgun and MG

[burnt flume]

but then after using it more it fucking rocks

[wicked solstice]

veruta

[burnt flume]

I don't use it lots though

[wicked solstice]

But I recommend hel shotgun and hel rifle

Or hel gun tbh

[burnt flume]

the chill dude loadout

sometimes I use hel shotgun + revolver in r1a1 runs for fun

although I do think it's kinda objectively worse than other loadouts

[wicked solstice]

That actually sounds good

[lost lynx]

slug shotgun + short rifle best loadout

[wicked solstice]

Because hel shotty will shred a groups health

Then Revo doesn’t have to headshot

[burnt flume]

it's more like you use revo as a main to kill whatever you can, then hel shotty to stagger/kill anything you need to

giants you normally spam some revo at range to stagger/weaken

[lost lynx]

hel revolver or normal revolver?

[wicked solstice]

It’s funny, I don’t really use a main loadout in vanilla anymore

[wicked solstice]

Normal

We were talking combos with Hel shottie

[rose nova]

yes i pair helshotgun and hel revolver

:3

i have two mains

[wicked solstice]

But yeah

[lost lynx]

good idea

[wicked solstice]

Ig I main AR/BC in Occlusion

But vanilla I just bounce from gun to gun

[burnt flume]

shoutout to that one mod for og r5 that lets you use hel revo in the special slot

[wicked solstice]

bruh

[burnt flume]

tbh I think it just unlocks every weapon for every slot

the legendary long gun

hm, maybe long gun became short rifle

what a transformation

[wicked solstice]

can we just swap hel shottie, hel revo, combat shottie, and normal revo

[jade dirge]

hey dak, are you good at datablocks?

[wicked solstice]

uh yes

whymst

[jade dirge]

do you think you could help me figure out 2 somethings

[wicked solstice]

Depends, if it’s pure datablocks, probably

[jade dirge]

how do i scale up a knife head and handle and just add it to the bat

basically i just want to replace the bat with a knife to keep its moveset, making a sword

[wicked solstice]

That I don’t know

Haven’t screwed with weapon cosmetics

Only values

[storm quartz]

They only thing with weapons that they need to do is make every primary on the level of hel revo

[jade dirge]

then i dont think you can help wit hthe second somethings

[lost lynx]

😔

but cool looking guns

[jade dirge]

i was gonna ask where hammer_head_5 went, its supposed to be this axe type deal but its ID, 2, just points to the santonian HDH head

[wicked solstice]

Me when my Arbalest temporarily broke and had a straight mag

[rose nova]

STRAIGHT??? BLEUGH /j

i had to im sorry

[mystic moss]

try 7

[jade dirge]

i know 7, thats the crafted axe, and 9 is the cogaxe

8 is this barrel type deal, im talkign a big, thick axe head with a hammer face on the back, ill dm you a pic of i

[lost lynx]

Slendi

what

[rose nova]

i like my arbalist gay :3

[jade dirge]

jarhead thinks it may have been yeeted with a recent update and i found old resources

[bright pier]

any tips for r4c3

mission is so fuckig easy then its just a room full of charger giants and a scout

[burnt flume]

which objectives are you doing?

[bright pier]

j main

[burnt flume]

hm, funnily enough the mission might get considerably easier if you go and do the secondary

if you're sticking to main only though, you might want to sit outside the door and not open it until scout is close

you can try go in and foam the scout, or shoot it dead if you're comfortable with pulling the room

[pine root]

R you playing with bots or humans

[bright pier]

2 real 2 bot

[burnt flume]

if you do go and pull the room, I would suggest getting onto a nice long sightline instead of tight corners to give yourself more time to shoot enemies

[pine root]

You can stealth the room then

[bright pier]

how can you stealth the room when everything is so close together and the giant take that many hits

we had a trio spawn that was a 2 standard and 1 giant charger

half the room is like that

[burnt flume]

you can leave those until the end and shoot them, or abuse cfoam

[pine root]

^ yeah you don’t need to stealth everything there is a jump on to the upper main platform

Clear to a side room then pull main and mine from side room

Ngl if I cared for stealth that’s how I would do it

Or just take scatter gun

And kill them all

[mystic moss]

please stop talking about scattergun

[rose nova]

hey scatterguns nice

chat lets talk

[mystic moss]

you're like eva who'll find a way to mention speedrunning in every discussion

[jade dirge]

what main is closest to an LMG

[rose nova]

hey guys when i used scattergun

...

closest to an lmg

uh

[wicked solstice]

scattergun

:)

[rose nova]

yes

[wicked solstice]

Honestly none really

Nothing on main comes close to an LMG

[rose nova]

nope

[high orchid]

closest I could think of would be like og R4 HAR

[wicked solstice]

True

[jade dirge]

then whats the closest equivalent

[wicked solstice]

uhhhhh AR probable

[jade dirge]

my dude that is a special weapon

[wicked solstice]

It used to bw main

In OG R4

[high orchid]

not in og r4

[jade dirge]

how many bullets it hold

[wicked solstice]

That’s why he specified

[wicked solstice]

30

Fast reload

313 ammo

[jade dirge]

my bad, i was not herre for rundown 4

[wicked solstice]

It just, isn’t a very good weapon rn

[jade dirge]

is it possible to make hte pdw good

[pine root]

Do you want to talk about the hel shotgun

Instead

[rose nova]

it is ok, specially by the thermal

[mystic moss]

I don't think it's particularly good

You can't snipe enemies with it

[high orchid]

mgs outclass it right?

[river marlin]

Fast question, what is the easiest mission?

[jade dirge]

honestly if i use pdw im dropping the thermal

[river marlin]

wanna win with 2 friends we failed too many times already

[high orchid]

id say either r6a1 or r7a1

[burnt flume]

at that point wouldn't you rather take heavy smg though because it's statistically better?

like I'm not a fan of thermals either but the heavy smg is right there as a slightly better pdw without thermals

[rose nova]

if ur failin at A tiers, u havent done the tutorial which id recommend

or ur takin it too fast so slow down

[burnt flume]

if in doubt - let burst sentry carry your wave clear

[high orchid]

only thing pdw has other than the thermals is the faster reload cancel, but even then hsmg is still better for range iirc

[wicked solstice]

also taking thermals off of PDW wouldn’t be allowed in pubs

[burnt flume]

with due respect I do not think sleepy is a reload cancel god

[jade dirge]

so pdw is just unworkable in all regards

[burnt flume]

I know sleepy said he was messing around with veruta scope in a pub lobby

[upbeat sail]

just take heavy smg if you want a gun like it then

[burnt flume]

got the gun customisation mod or whatever it is on and has been using it to my knowledge

[rose nova]

it has a thermal, and stat wise its closish to heavy smg

[high orchid]

thermal on pdw aint even that bad

[rose nova]

so its like a bit worse but thermal on exchange

[wicked solstice]

Exactly

[jade dirge]

the thermal is why i hate it, ill just run the HSMG

[rose nova]

well ok

[wicked solstice]

Yeah that

[rose nova]

i use it for chedows

[wicked solstice]

33 bullet mag just feels weird tbo

[rose nova]

C:

[upbeat sail]

some guns have weird mag sizes like that in real life too so

[wicked solstice]

I mean yeah but like

[jade dirge]

that and 33 isnt really all that bad, its a multiple of 3 which is nice

[wicked solstice]

This is a video game

[jade dirge]

im still mad they havent added one bullet to the burst cannon yet

[wicked solstice]

And like, we have some funny looking guns

cough hel revo and sawed off

[pine root]

If only they could make a gun that has a prime number of bullets

Like 13

Or 17

[gusty burrow]

2

[pine root]

This is why I like scatter

[burnt flume]

oh my god tru is right

[gusty burrow]

RIP prime sawed off, the real reason 4 mag is a nerf

[upbeat sail]

lol

[wicked solstice]

on god

[pine root]

2^2 is way worse than 3

[wicked solstice]

obviously

[jade dirge]

i cant drop the scope on pdw, but i can replace the holo sights with other holo sights on other guns, right?

[upbeat sail]

if your not playing in public lobbies you can do whatever

[jade dirge]

like, normal HSMG sight to arbi sight

[burnt flume]

I would stay away from any mod that adds functionality to the game that encroaches on/affects gameplay

[upbeat sail]

if your playing in public lobbies dont mess with that

[jade dirge]

i play pubs and always make sure my teammates are fine, i just never play with stats, only changing the looks of a gun

i remember loafy said i could do whatever as long as i dont alter the function of a wepaon

[high orchid]

idk man changing a thermal scope is kinda altering a gun

[jade dirge]

yeah, im asking for holo sight to different holo sight

HSMG sight to arbi sight

[burnt flume]

I don't think there is a mod handbook that's referred to for what mod is or isn't allowed

[pine root]

The real weapon customization

[burnt flume]

I mean hell, I'm waiting to hear back on something that's gone way up the chain of command because of how a certain mod was used

[rose nova]

i tried askin mods about mods but i got told that i said what mods i was gonna use
and i thought 'this isnt even for me i shouldnt answer'

[upbeat sail]

I think its just "if people report you for being an ass" you get in trouble but im not a moderator so

[jade dirge]

yeah, i always ask my teammates before we run if i can use cosmetic mods and make sure they're cool with it

[ivory sky]

i just use the archive

[gusty burrow]

Ultimately, minor changes that do not impact balance (such as exchanging holo sights) (though not stuff like adding thermals/drastically changing a scope's zoom) aren't going to get you in any strife.

The problem is that the mod that lets you exchange holo sights is the same mod that lets you drastically alter scopes and abuse them. So how tf is someone supposed to know if you're abusing them or not.

[burnt flume]

it always feels weird to me to seeing a new player lean into mods so heavily

[ivory sky]

^

[jade dirge]

i turned off stat altering in the configs, and i basically give everything the burst cannon sight, the veruta sight, or the arbi sight

i make sure every one of my teammates knows that my guns are the same as theirs, just looking a bit cooler in my opinion

[burnt flume]

but then again I only use modlist/kick plugin if I'm playing pubs because, well, I don't want to run with mods that change the game

[gusty burrow]

Pretty normal in games with any lively modding community. Just unusual for GTFO because the modding community has largely been unsupported.

[wicked solstice]

You should run archive for funny colored name

[rose nova]

i would love to just prohibit mods on the lobbies i make but ik i would just stab myself cause it would make me wait a hella lot more, even if i despise the fuckin ping everything

[wicked solstice]

And anticheat

[gusty burrow]

I added a crosshair mod in my first 10 hours of DRG - a game with official modding support and a lively modding community.

[wicked solstice]

Yeah slendi wth

[burnt flume]

it is mostly down to confirmation bias but still

[wicked solstice]

I literally played with you last night

[jade dirge]

right, i just wanted to double check with a mod that these are fine

[wicked solstice]

:(

[rose nova]

:b i am talkin lfgs

[upbeat sail]

I tried the colored name once then removed it after it turned my text pink

[jade dirge]

like i told loaf, everything i do is
solely client side
solely cosmetic
approved by the people i run with

i just really like teh arbalest scope

[rose nova]

i do just throw a fit if i see someone usin the backpack heavy items thing, i shoot em and i just dont move when i realize lol

until i see em with the item on their hands

[jade dirge]

i got a backpack that looks like an ammo kit just last night

[rose nova]

think ik which one

that ones cool

[wicked solstice]

My friend intentionally runs a name that makes his text super hard to read

XD

[rose nova]

this

[jade dirge]

its the utility compact pioneer

[rose nova]

zoe fuckin uses red

for the chat

and i just cant read it KMSDKMK

[wicked solstice]

LMAO

[upbeat sail]

fear

[rose nova]

its so fuckin hard to see

[wicked solstice]

Yeah Flare runs uhhh

[rose nova]

qwq

[burnt flume]

bad day to be colourblind

[wicked solstice]

Deep blue

And uhhhhhh

[rose nova]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[jade dirge]

its more a pink and its actually pretty nice over the standard white

[burnt flume]

I think the coloured name market is oversaturated rn anyway

[wicked solstice]

It is so fucking hard to read

[jade dirge]

now that is evil

[burnt flume]

you have so many people and it's like

man.

[wicked solstice]

Nah, I like my ocean blue/forest green

[rose nova]

i like my, slendi

[wicked solstice]

Reminds me of the mountains

[upbeat sail]

why does it even change the text chat again

[wicked solstice]

The funny

[upbeat sail]

[wicked solstice]

slendi

I’m dragging you back to C2

[rose nova]

b but

where team :[

[burnt flume]

which c2

[lost lynx]

which C2

[burnt flume]

most rundowns have a c2

[lost lynx]

Pachi

[rose nova]

r8

[lusty river]

Where is R3C2 😭

[lost lynx]

R8C2 is fun

[upbeat sail]

the modded one with spitters plastering every single surface

[lost lynx]

R8C2 is prob one of the best levels on R8

[wicked solstice]

Yep

That’s why I’m dragging him back :3

[rose nova]

:[

[lost lynx]

its fun, decent difficult, amazing acting,

[wicked solstice]

Because I’ve been enjoying it so much

[lost lynx]

it has everything

[wicked solstice]

And I know he has too!

Right slendi ?

:)

[lost lynx]

Slendi is having PTSD right now

[wicked solstice]

I mean I’m pretty sure he had fun last night

I went hella chaos mode

[burnt flume]

I still need c2 d2 e2

but not tonight

[wicked solstice]

Flying eagle dove a sleeping BBC

[rose nova]

:3

qwq

[wicked solstice]

it was dope af

slendi and I only got slapped once from it :3

[wicked solstice]

Dw I’ll drag you along eventually

I can see myself replaying the level a lot

I haven’t even gotten tired of the Schaeffer dialog yet

[lost lynx]

DONT LEAVE ME HERE

MICHAEL

[wicked solstice]

OMG

HOW DID I NOT MAKE THAT CONNECTION

[outer lantern]

Chat

[jade dirge]

pump shot is the best shot

[forest nymph]

tem algum brasileiro aí que joga?Chama PM

[jade dirge]

ei, o canal #lfg-latin-america pode te ajudar a encontrar outros brasileiros

[latent palm]

only acessible til you get R2E1 duo

[pallid anvil]

ermm

[jade dirge]

i dont actually speak that language, i used google translate just to give a quick word of advice

i may be stupid, but i try to be helpful

[trail nymph]

Hi guys i’m totally new just bought my gaming laptop i have 2 games GTFO and Hell Divers!!! I need help learning GTFO I use Xbox controller too

[jade dirge]

i would go and use #lfg-beginners to get started

[trail nymph]

Thanks

[blissful dome]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you havent be sure to do the tutorial first [on the top left] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[jade dirge]

hey rose, whats a good semi-auto main gun

semi's are my favorite gun type so far

[trail nymph]

No body joining me and R1 lol i’ll try with bots I guess

[rose nova]

u didnt posted anything in the LFG channels

[jade dirge]

hey slendi, hows the pistol

[pallid anvil]

not sure what that means because im clueless :3

but ill say DMR

[rose nova]

tambien esta #hc-latin-america para un server en portugues

[rose nova]

semi auto is not automatic so u won

🎉

[jade dirge]

main guns that fire one bullet per trigger pull

[blissful dome]

hel revo uwu

[jade dirge]

not three, not 2, not 4, one, stuff like the pistol, the dmr, the rifle, what have you

[trail nymph]

I was eating

[rose nova]

ah
i got confuzzled by the other message

[jade dirge]

hey slendi, i got a question

isnt DTR more ammo efficient than DMR, considering its got slightly more total ammo, precision mult, and damage per trigger pull?

[south roost]

should just try em out and see how you feel about them

[wicked solstice]

yes, it is

[rose nova]

it has an extremely high skill ceiling tho and by just a couple of missed bursts itll lose that

[south roost]

not everything is about the numbers but what type of weapon suits your playstyle, just just what is fun to shoot

[rose nova]

so dmr its just better on every front on easeness of use

[jade dirge]

thats entirely fair

i far, far prefer DMR in terms of usage

[shut vapor]

Finally. A based opinion

[pastel dagger]

So r2e1 if you don't play with ppl who are cheating/cheesing/glitching

Noted

[south roost]

have you ever been told that you seem to hold onto grudges

[blissful dome]

lmao

[outer lantern]

Guys the hel shotgun has no range

worse than scatter

I’m right

[quartz cape]

this is true

[pastel dagger]

Have u ever read the chat in the last two weeks or what was it

[jade dirge]

correct, you ARE right

[outer lantern]

[jade dirge]

hel shot bad, scatter good

[outer lantern]

Sleepy I don’t know how much longer I can defend this (I’ve never defended this I just need something funny to say)

[jade dirge]

you dont defend this, yuki does

[pastel dagger]

Hel shotgun is trash until u get hit with something crazy where killing enemies doesn't matter as it insta spawns a new one

What I would agree with hel shotgun trash is its reload speed

[jade dirge]

no its the range that neuters it for me

[pastel dagger]

Well it's the knife of shotguns

What can u do

[jade dirge]

yeah but knife is at least good

[pastel dagger]

Knife is shit

New hot take baby let's go

[crude bay]

Both good

[jade dirge]

nein

[crude bay]

Ja

[jade dirge]

hel shot bad, scattergun good

[crude bay]

How

Tell me how its bad

[jade dirge]

hel shot has no range and super wide spread

basically unusable past three feet

[crude bay]

Have you tryed using it for more than spaming bullets?

[jade dirge]

ive tried using it for killing, which it cant do well, so its worthless

pump shot supremacy

[mystic moss]

tbh you're better off using dtr or dmr instead of hel shotty

[crude bay]

Its a very Very good weapon if given to anyone above 50h of gameplay , so i guess not for U?

[mystic moss]

actually use a gun with range

[jade dirge]

ah yes back to the hours argument

[crude bay]

Scatter is just strong = good so yh

[jade dirge]

have you guys got anything but the same three points to use or no

[crude bay]

Wdym you guys , you are talking to me now not anyone els

[jade dirge]

the entire collective of you hel shot defenders

its always hours this and you suck that, get a new point already

the range is sheisse and the spread dont help, pump is just better

[crude bay]

Opinions change with more experience, and you lack in that a bit

[pastel dagger]

dafuq is dtr

doubletap?

[crude bay]

When it came out i called it shit aswell , took it on R5C2 after that , learned it was a epic weapon and good on any map

[mystic moss]

duo tech rifle

[pastel dagger]

designated trash rifle

[jade dirge]

and you learned wrong

[outer lantern]

Goofy as hell

[jade dirge]

hel shot bad, scattergun good, im going to bed cause its 2 am

[outer lantern]

double tap is good if you know how to aim

if you are bad at the game then it’s kinda bad yes

[jade dirge]

i like double tap in theory, but dmr is just it but cooler

[pastel dagger]

idk im not gonna lie i tried dtr in og r5 was like wtf is this shit and never again

[mystic moss]

real

[crude bay]

You good or?

[pastel dagger]

i in general dont like burst fire in games

[jade dirge]

what does that even mean

[mystic moss]

he thinks you're being ridiculous

[crude bay]

Yes that

[jade dirge]

he thinks wrong

[crude bay]

Thanks Voxy

[jade dirge]

hel shot is shit, thats just how it is, it lacks the reach to do anything well

[pastel dagger]

so does knife

[outer lantern]

Scatter also lacks reach

[jade dirge]

if it lost a few shots in its mag in exchange for a choke one tighter, it would be workable

[crude bay]

You can say something is an oppinion but some stuff is simply a fact from time to time

[jade dirge]

yeah but scatter actually makes up for its shortcomings, hel shot just doesnt

[pastel dagger]

i feel like hel shit is for surges

[outer lantern]

Nah it’s range is too short to work around

Scatter mid

[jade dirge]

scatter does enough damage to justify its reach, cause you just point it at something and that something disappears

[outer lantern]

Nah it’s too little range

[jade dirge]

you point hel shot at something and you get disappointed

[mellow hedge]

So does hel shotty

[wraith marsh]

what do 90% of enemies do in this game when you are fighting them

and why is it move towards the player

[pastel dagger]

hel shotgun so bad its staggers enemies to get them away from its effective range u know what ur right

[jade dirge]

run at you to make them easier to shoot at with a DMR, the proper main gun

[wraith marsh]

next question

why are main weapons just statted objectively worse than specials?

[jade dirge]

see? some folks see reason and logic

[wraith marsh]

and why does hel shotgun not follow that

[outer lantern]

you are my specialz

[wraith marsh]

it makes no sense

[jade dirge]

because ammo is scarcer and far faster consumed on specials

[wraith marsh]

next question, why do I have 2 weapons, of which I can choose 1 to have range and 1 to save my ass when 600 enemies are in front of me

[jade dirge]

hel shot does follow that, its literally the second worse weapon in the entire game

[mellow hedge]

Chill dude spitting facts rn

[jade dirge]

first worse being burst pistol

[wraith marsh]

if only someone could answer these questions for me

[mellow hedge]

That’s insane

Hel shotty is apparently worse than short rifle

[wraith marsh]

ok im going back to not reading this bye

[jade dirge]

because god gave you 2 inventory slots, one for a dmr, one for a pump shotgun

[mystic moss]

real

[outer lantern]

aren’t there like 3 shotguns that are pump action

[mellow hedge]

Solo mf’s be like

[outer lantern]

I don’t think there is one called the pump

[crude bay]

🤣🤣🤣

[outer lantern]

I think this is a jugger moment

[jade dirge]

pump shotgun is just the classic shotgun, but we all know what i mean since the other "pump" shotguns have their own names

[outer lantern]

When hell fucking freezes over

[outer lantern]

Nobody knows what you mean when you make up random names or else we wouldn’t have to ask

like half of the guns in the game are shotguns

[jade dirge]

its the only pump shotgun that doesnt have another name

slug shot is the slug shot, choke mod is choke mod, whats the only other pump action shotgun that exists

[outer lantern]

No idea because I only use scatter

And rarely at that

[mellow hedge]

Ong

Scatter on top

[jade dirge]

choke mod isnt even a pump i think, its just a semi with a vertical grip

[outer lantern]

I used slug shotgun once which was funny

It should really be a oneshot to the body

[mystic moss]

it does tho

[outer lantern]

fr

[mellow hedge]

I thought it did?

[jade dirge]

amigo, it can and regularly does

[mellow hedge]

Idk I use good weapons

Like hel shotty

[jade dirge]

including instakilling flyers

at quite a considerable range i might add

[outer lantern]

They buffed it then cuz when I used that shit it only oneshot to the head

[mellow hedge]

Well I think we can all agree it’s still ass

[jade dirge]

yeah it needs a head to instakill shooters, but for the biting bastards it just takes one to the chest

[outer lantern]

Real

high cal pistol best special anyway

[mellow hedge]

Cap

[outer lantern]

nah

[jade dirge]

you tend to misspell hel rifle/arbi/pump shot

depending on your mood

[outer lantern]

Still no idea what pump shotgun is to you

[mellow hedge]

Hel gun and hel rifle are objectively the best specials

[outer lantern]

also arbalest is good but it’s not the best

[latent palm]

[jade dirge]

marlowe what is the only pump shotgun that doesnt shoot slugs

[outer lantern]

Nah

High cal pistol and sniper

fr

Kaiser back me up

[mellow hedge]

If you disagree

Skill issue

[jade dirge]

the choke mod, combat shot, hel shit, and sawn off are all semi auto

the slug shot has its own name

[outer lantern]

I disagree because high cal is cool

[latent palm]

bro blocked me

[jade dirge]

what is the only remaining option for a pump shotgun

[outer lantern]

Makes me feel like Han Solo

[outer lantern]

Lmao

[latent palm]

i cant back you up

he has everyone blocked

[outer lantern]

You’re goofy if you think I every gun name memorized

[crude bay]

Not yet

[latent palm]

yeah bc you werent there

[outer lantern]

Also it’s sawed not sawn

[wraith marsh]

(combat and hel arent semi for whatever reason)

[mellow hedge]

Hi cal is good

[jade dirge]

and yet you make hte claim of being a vet

[wraith marsh]

I dont think pump is a name we can make fun of tho

[outer lantern]

I have never said this ever

[jade dirge]

they're full auto but slow enough you can semi fire them with some control

[latent palm]

[outer lantern]

link the message where I say this

[high orchid]

no one calls guns by their government name

[jade dirge]

im not either, its literally a pump shotgun

[wraith marsh]

ye, firing them full auto is really bad

[jade dirge]

the only pump shotgun that doesnt fire slugs

[outer lantern]

I think most people do with irl firearms

[latent palm]

bros awearness in chat is humongusly blind

[outer lantern]

Thank you frosty

[mellow hedge]

If you say hi cal is bad

Skill issue

[outer lantern]

Real

[latent palm]

u do know

we are blocked right frosty

[serene jewel]

slug shotgun is trash lol

[latent palm]

so anything we say is not relavent

[mellow hedge]

I’m talking to Marlowe

[latent palm]

yeah

[jade dirge]

false, its like hi cal in the main slot

[outer lantern]

Real

[latent palm]

but its in the same topic

[outer lantern]

Slug cannot oneshot scouts so no

[jade dirge]

yes the fuck it can?

[mellow hedge]

Slug is just baddd

[serene jewel]

sure if the hi cal was trash, I guess

[jade dirge]

i literally instakilled a scout just earlier with it

[outer lantern]

[high orchid]

with real guns there's other companies making the same type of gun, in gtfo there's only the 1, with the exception of machine gun where people specify the model

[jade dirge]

from about 15 feet no less, shot it right in the back of the head

[wraith marsh]

it basically is high cal in main slot though
only problem is the sacrifices made in order to transfer it to main slot are too bad for it to be a good weapon

[outer lantern]

I mean I guess

[mellow hedge]

It also has Dogshit fire rate

[jade dirge]

idk it feels pretty close ot hi cal, just a slight concession in ammo but not too bad

[latent palm]

slug shotgun can headshot scout

[wraith marsh]

its 50 % less damage, even less range, less ammo

[latent palm]

[wraith marsh]

well

33% less damage

[serene jewel]

it has dogshit fire rate, lower dmg than hi cal, dogshit range

[high orchid]

my biggest issue with slug shotgun is that for what you get from using it, sawed off just does better, at the cost of range

[wraith marsh]

20 vs 30

the range on high cal is already pretty shit

so that also hurts a lot

[serene jewel]

it has no business being in a main slot

[jade dirge]

yeah but thats at the cost of having to deal with spread and inconsistency

[mellow hedge]

Skull issue

[serene jewel]

both irrelevant outside the slug's effective range anyway

[mellow hedge]

Genuinely

[wraith marsh]

you can just aim for head with slug yea but you just take another weapon then

[serene jewel]

which is still dogshit btw

[high orchid]

that's a skill issue man

[wraith marsh]

sawed off kills from pretty far range if you also aim for head

while providing you other utility

(and more ammo)

[latent palm]

this is you talking about this patch right?

[wraith marsh]

ye

[serene jewel]

there are so many better weapons, I legit won't understand why anyone would pick slug, it's that bad lol

[jade dirge]

do you guys have anything to say that isnt just "skill issue lol"?

[outer lantern]

Just melee

[wraith marsh]

high cal range is one of the reasons ppl consider other options

[outer lantern]

👍

[high orchid]

your claims are just skill issues

[outer lantern]

Fr

[mellow hedge]

Fr

[serene jewel]

I mean it's a nicer version of "you just suck get good"

[latent palm]

BURRRRRN

SHEEEEEESH

[jade dirge]

yeah but you guys shoot to wake up rooms and act like im the dumb one, ive seen what you call good and im proud to not be that stupid

[outer lantern]

Pulling rooms is a good strategy sometimes lmao

[mellow hedge]

Bro is so delusional

[wraith marsh]

everyone need sto move on from that

[latent palm]

its better than what youll ever do lil bro

[outer lantern]

If you can’t see the value in a room pull you are insane

[mellow hedge]

It’s insane

[jade dirge]

its a waste of ammo and an unneeded risk

[wraith marsh]

shooting to pull rooms is not a bad strategy

[outer lantern]

Slow stealth is even more of an unneeded risk

[latent palm]

its insane that bro is spilling all these rotting beans

[jade dirge]

i can think of a single situation its useful in and thats to scout snipe

[high orchid]

let me introduce you to the power of c-foam mine on a door

[serene jewel]

everything is a risk, controlled risk is alright

[outer lantern]

You might actually just be terrible

Like fr

[jade dirge]

no im not dumb enough to waste ammo and risk health waking up a room

[light sigil]

cant you just mine a door

[mellow hedge]

Doesn’t take advice

[outer lantern]

“Risk health” the one infinite resource lol

[serene jewel]

like I'd rather pull a room and be able to hold them at a choke point than know one of you morons will fuck up stealth and get us surrounded anyway

[mellow hedge]

Check

[light sigil]

if you dont wanna waste ammo

[outer lantern]

Actually

[wraith marsh]

you arguably risk more health by stealthing a lot of rooms you would just pull

[outer lantern]

like

[wraith marsh]

ammo sure but also you just mine ye ^

[outer lantern]

Or if the room is small enough….. just melee everything

[serene jewel]

yup

[jade dirge]

that costs tool ammo, even more rare than normal ammo

[wraith marsh]

the main reason to shoot over mine is that most of the time you get more ammo than tool in levels

[junior latch]

What

[outer lantern]

Unless there’s like 20 shooters it’s so easy to just melee

[mellow hedge]

No

[jade dirge]

unless you found a disposable mine thats even stupider

[serene jewel]

you rarely get to legitimately use mines

[jade dirge]

hell, even if you found a disposable mine there are better uses for it

[wraith marsh]

idk about rarely

[latent palm]

dont bother lmao

[pastel dagger]

Sleepy is Google translated mission control in the flesh

[wraith marsh]

ok, what if you already know the level because youve played it a ton of times before

know how much ammo you are getting

what doors are availabel to mine in the future

[latent palm]

personally i dont even stoop that low when i was new

[wraith marsh]

and dont want to spend more time for no reason with that knowledge

[outer lantern]

yeah the sinking portion of r8d1 lemme just stealth through the infectious fog every time that room respawns instead of just funneling on the stairs

[high orchid]

when I was new I just played the game

[jade dirge]

you still dont cause what if you or one of your teammates screw up and shit hits the fan, you will need that ammo in some eventuality

[wraith marsh]

how much ammo are you spending

1 ammo pack?

[high orchid]

I didn't even care about what "the meta" was I just wanted to beat levels

[latent palm]

will u be on evas bingo chill? cause it will decrease my chances of winning

[jade dirge]

a lot, i use dmr and pump shot

[junior latch]

It can 1 shot to the body in a 7 1/2 meter range

which is quite oof considering that is its only point

[wraith marsh]

thats like 10 enemies with shit shooting per pack

[outer lantern]

Bro misses most of his shots ofc he’s so worried about ammo

[latent palm]

shooting hange

[wraith marsh]

as well, a lot of players will melee awake shit

[shut vapor]

I'm still malding over Eva's team sniping mine multiple times

[jade dirge]

no i have decent enough aim, but ammo is always a concern

[latent palm]

and slendi

[latent palm]

i have the clip

in 720

[wraith marsh]

melee is free, if youre on 20 hp already you dont even have health to lose

[latent palm]

not 4k

[outer lantern]

I killed IFO like 9 times on our r8d1 runs and I was literally never worried about ammo

[latent palm]

cause twitch cliping sucks

[jade dirge]

yes you do, you have going down to lose

[wraith marsh]

what do you lose by going down

[jade dirge]

if all 4 of you go down guess what, you fucking died

[latent palm]

"you have going down to lose"

[junior latch]

Yea pump shotty is a decently common name

[latent palm]

[outer lantern]

Like a minute of shooting

Or melee

[wraith marsh]

if youre meleeing and 2 ppl go down you can always bring out your gun

(and you will)

[latent palm]

Speak english mf

[outer lantern]

Incredibly inconsequential with a competent team who can kite

[latent palm]

@blissful dome ayo IFO

[wraith marsh]

as well

[shut vapor]

Pump shotty my beloved

[wraith marsh]

circling back

[latent palm]

come check this out

[outer lantern]

Or a bot you can kick and make rejoin to revive you

[jade dirge]

time in an active horde situation, a teammate, health, more ammo spent trying to rescue your ass

[blissful dome]

whats up

[wraith marsh]

if a room is bad enough when woken that waking it up when trying to stealth is going to wipe you

[shut vapor]

Counterpoint: Kiting yucky

[wraith marsh]

you SHOULD just pull it

and mine it

[latent palm]

sleepyboi cant type

[outer lantern]

This entire discussion does just boil down to skill issue

[wraith marsh]

because it will eliminate all the threat

if youre dying to a simple room wake then theres no argument to be had here

[outer lantern]

Sometimes yeah but it’s necessary

[blissful dome]

sleepy?

this isnt new

[latent palm]

yeah ikr

[shut vapor]

It's never necessary if you don't go down

[outer lantern]

If you’re dying to room pulls, you’re choosing bad rooms to pull, or you just suck

[latent palm]

its the same repeatetive shit for a month now

[high orchid]

or aren't using mines

[jade dirge]

no it boils down to that yall are lazy and would rather spend ammo than time

[outer lantern]

I don’t think there’s anyone who has never gone down once

[wraith marsh]

I dont get what you mean here

[latent palm]

WOW BRO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

SO TRUE

[wraith marsh]

if its an active horde youre shooting unless its safe to melee

if someones down youre shooting

[latent palm]

I HAVE TO SPEND AMMO AND TIME AT THE SAME TIME

[outer lantern]

Saying it’s “lazy” to shoot instead of spending 20 minutes clearing out 10 sleepers in a room is insane

[latent palm]

HOW BOUT YOU GROW A PAIR OF BALLS

[wraith marsh]

if youre in an active horde and you need to stealth

[serene jewel]

you know wasting time is a deathwish on some expeditions?

[latent palm]

AND SHOOT

[wraith marsh]

pulling is normally safer

since the room will get woken anyways

and someone is likely defending

[junior latch]

That was insane lol

[wraith marsh]

and time is also super important then

[shut vapor]

Homie trying to justify spending more time on already long levels

[wraith marsh]

regardless of being lazy

[blissful dome]

🙏

[outer lantern]

sleepy go run r8e1 and stealth it for me

[jade dirge]

yes but if you go down, the ammo loss is concentrated on the living teammates, which means more downs and a snowball into a lost run

[latent palm]

i tested out mine kills yesterday with maid (mines at almost cap reach deals 79hp)

[wraith marsh]

the ammo loss is no different with downed players

[latent palm]

and if we time jumping out

[wraith marsh]

that just doesnt make any sense

[latent palm]

itll deal just 45

[outer lantern]

It’s the same amount of enemies like

[jade dirge]

im not gonna sit here and argue with oyu dopes if you wont actually listen to my points, im going to bed

[outer lantern]

Someone dying doesn’t make more sleepers spawn

[wraith marsh]

you have someone here listening for once and you still dont care

[latent palm]

bye lil bro

[junior latch]

Sleepy thinking he has points

[serene jewel]

I get where you're coming from, alright. If your team is so shit that they go down from waking up one room then sure, your only viable option is to stealth like a snail because you're trying to compensate for the most inept

[outer lantern]

Your points are literally that you suck and cannot shoot so you choose to stealth everything

[junior latch]

when chill is arguing in a well out out manner

[wraith marsh]

I have disproved everything you have said with something reasonable

[junior latch]

and sleepy ignores it all

[outer lantern]

That is 100% of what you said boiled down into a sentence

[outer lantern]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[latent palm]

not even i can pull off a dog shit move like that

[jade dirge]

no, you aint fucking listening, your stammering out the same three points and that fucking phrase over and over again

[junior latch]

i salute your efforts

I stopped this once i was blocked

[latent palm]

[wraith marsh]

ive said a different thing every single time

[latent palm]

dont bother chill

[wraith marsh]

ive responded to everything you have said directly

[jade dirge]

different words, same thing

[serene jewel]

phrases are usually repeated because people don't listen

[junior latch]

chill dude do you know the dunning kruger effect?

[latent palm]

we dont shit on bad players

[serene jewel]

oh this is for real dunning kruger effect lmao

[latent palm]

we just shit on them cause skill issues

[wraith marsh]

if you need to reread the chat feel free

[jade dirge]

your response is always some variant on "you suck" "git gud" "skill issue"

[outer lantern]

Because that is what the issue is

[wraith marsh]

are you reading the wrong person?

[outer lantern]

Simple as

[wraith marsh]

I have never said any of that

[serene jewel]

I mean I won't shit on bad players, I would shit on people who are bad and double down on being bad and literally refuse to improve

like here

[junior latch]

id doubt whether hes reading at all sometimes…

[pastel dagger]

Sounds like a dot

[wraith marsh]

please feel free to reread the chat, ill repeat that sentence ig so you can have that

[latent palm]

hes not even reading 1

[junior latch]

[wraith marsh]

it is a text chat after all, you have the ability to reread in an argument

as well as think

(crazy)

[latent palm]

woah

youll get blocked by that

[junior latch]

@shut vapor so btw i presume you arent down to participate :^ )?

[latent palm]

dont go to far

[serene jewel]

I'm just waiting for an lfg, I can enjoy this

[wraith marsh]

same

[latent palm]

whatchu doing?

[wraith marsh]

only reason im participating for once

[latent palm]

i may join

[serene jewel]

I'm waiting for people to post in lfg lmao

[regal mauve]

what about people that are bad but are trying to improve? (me)

[serene jewel]

you get my full support

[latent palm]

thats good

[junior latch]

Completely fine

[latent palm]

to have

[junior latch]

being bad isnt bad

[latent palm]

but the fact that youre bad

[outer lantern]

I love you

[latent palm]

• the delusional in which you think any point you take is correct

and everyones wrong

[regal mauve]

I know

[junior latch]

being bad and having the confidence higher than mt everest while blocking any argument is

[latent palm]

is mind fuckery-ing

[outer lantern]

I don’t have bbc sorry

I am a pawg though

[latent palm]

being bad at the game is 1 thing

[outer lantern]

Real

[latent palm]

being bad to other ppl while youre no better is the thing

lying, getting caught on stream

not even saying sorry if youre wrong

[outer lantern]

Real jugger moment

[latent palm]

blocking ppl who actually have a decent

argument and true criticsims

[outer lantern]

I’m blocked now too

yippee

[serene jewel]

lmao

[junior latch]

the whole stealth argument is absolutely mind boggling too

[outer lantern]

Kaiser do you want to make out

[pastel dagger]

Sorry for what

[latent palm]

is actually fucking hilarious to think bro is an anime protag

[junior latch]

i get not wanting to shoot rooms

Everyone can prefer smth

[latent palm]

scroll up

[outer lantern]

bro needs to move out of the woods fr

[junior latch]

but dont tell vets they suck for pulling and shooting rooms

lol

[pastel dagger]

Warden taught us not to be ashamed of hel iron

[junior latch]

anyway

work time

[serene jewel]

literal manchild

[outer lantern]

Saying vets suck for pulling rooms when it’s the fastest and also hardest way to clear levels is hilarious

[latent palm]

flashback to the point where "vets sucks and therefor shouldnt say anything"

[wraith marsh]

listen guys I tried

never again

[unreal crystal]

isnt the manchild also the one whos crying abt a new player just giving bad advice

like idk

[outer lantern]

Also saying that I call myself a vet for some reason

[latent palm]

i told u last week already chill

[unreal crystal]

dogpile the new guy whos a little questionable all u want

[serene jewel]

there are none so deaf as they who will not hear

[latent palm]

dont step on shit

[outer lantern]

I have like 60 hours

[unreal crystal]

but u guys arent exactly saints either

[latent palm]

and u literally did

[unreal crystal]

and none of you are either insane at the game, either

[wraith marsh]

yeah ik I was avoiding the blazing dumpster fire