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then tell me in ||spoiler bars||
yes, i dont really care about the story
is that the ||tank + pmom|| that u are refferring to or pulling the funny ||4 mommy room||
|| R6D1, R8B2 EX, R8E2 ||
Yes
whats ||ex|| mean
Secondary/Extreme
I refer to them interchangeably
R5D1 has a lot of bosses
Uhhhh, what else?
R7D2 ig
If you go challenge mode
i would unironically argue that if u consider r4e1 as boss fight (BIG R8 SPOILER) ||r8e2 reactor wave 3 is harder when it comes to "Boss fight" as u could say a boss fight. However this is kinda weird as it does rely on all the other enemies to actually make it hard||
nah
R7D2 still being the fucking best level in vanilla
maybe it's just late and I am schizo
True
r3d1
i will argue that r3d1 is better cause it contains more of the hottest enemies in the game
R6D1
It would be but scatter
Eg
all levels fall victim to this argument. r8e2 is better since scatter cant just invalidate the whole boss
i really dont care about spoiling that guy
With sniper and scattergun the way they are
Dont do it for me š„ŗ
I did just trying to be nice 
mmmm
who is azert
Dunno
that dickhead
shut up
You're mean
I'm making up for the shit you've said to me yep
I'm a big meany
I'll tell my dad
Aight mf wats guud
bring it
Dont act tough
When u start beating that bitch who keep scamming you I'll humor you
I'm ready whenever
(to everyone who doesn't know, me and azert are "friends" and this is just a bit of banter)
Lmk when u get few bruises
ayo who wanna join me and my friend
Sry we are closed for today
???
Lmk when shit backfires at you
there's and lfg section if you want to find people
you'll have more luck there
it ain't gonna
Oh ya it will
it never does
Ofc it does
It always does
not when I resolve things
Maybe if you hit the gym
you don't understand how many people I have scared shitless of me rn
Not being a 6 ft barrel
Why shit less and not shit ful
I'm not a barrel
Sounds like u a wuss
I'm beefy and that's part of the reason I'm intimidating
"Hey guys stop I can't move as fast"
I will buy you a flight to the uk just so we can settle this
sounds like someone's scared
Sounds like you all talk
look who's talking
Who is?
Speaking as someone who watches not a lick of basketball
I am
he play for the lakers
What are we talking about?
I think you are
r you 2 even engrish?
look the chat
MJ
u dont see me replied to nun
its a debate obviously
but most people have MJ as 1 and LBJ as 2
different types of great. Both are insane
u guys are all insane i was just joining this channel i didnt mention about the basketball thingy
seek a therapy
i go to therapy :)
Is this guy high?
Trolling behavior
ŠøŠ“ŠµŃ ŠŗŃŠ¾ пизГиŃŃŃ?
Michael Jackson is my favourite basketball player tbh
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yeah who watches sports
actually ig I am a casual hockey enjoyer
bruh
real man watches anime
LMAO
Preferably gore
Bro is high
frosty not allowed into gtfo lockout bingo tournament confirmed
okay wait now
F
we can talk
i watched elden lied and got a condition :)
Nightmare nightmare nightmare
Lebron my king, my baby, my everything
I mean to ask @mellow hedge, who is that character you have there?
it's the dude from fortnite
Some character from a show i used to watch that i couldnt be bothered changing
Thats actually what I look like btw
what does that have to do with you looking like a drawing
That's crazy dude
dont be mean please superdude100000
das crazy
You're not gonna believe this, but I actually am this cat
WHAT
time to eat you
I am also this cat
i also am this deer ass
"I also choose this guy's cat"
āCatā
man ive seen what happens when you speak
Thats no cat
wat
It can be
@gusty burrow we see you
So
(Also hi)
Lol
man i gotta work on settingup the alarm guide tmrw
imaaaagine
that means asking questions to clarify
Tru having to explain reactor spawns
What the fuck a diminished alarm does

Actually I could do that one
Dw there's only like 17 variables that control how enemies spawn
Are you going to cover very specific alarms or just general alarms?
just for me to not put it in anyway cuz i deem it to complicated (pls explain anyway lol)
No
Are you called tru?
Tru donāt fall for it

me trying to figure out how to tell Eva it's a potato
Donāt believe him!

Fuck
heās working for the shadow government!
Ćl ClĆ”sico
I will see
am honestly ready to learn what the fuck a diminished alarm is
Because even Eva couldnāt tell me
Its a stinky alarm
its diminished
It's an alarm that gets smaller bb

Little piss baby
It is just flavour text. It is all just flavour text.
i think it's just like
less waves but more often but at a point it does not matter at all
the funniest shit is when it says class 5 M alarm
Are you shitting me?
Surge alarms aren't real they can't hurt you
and its not mixed

I love mixed alarms, they're so mixed, much mixy
in your dms
wonder how r8a1 class 3 would be if it was regular and not diminished
probably even more of a pain
Me trolling my RD-E2 playtesters by forgetting to change the door text from Class M IX to Class M VI
its probably gon be bout
Dimished alarms
Reactor spawns
how normal alarms work precisely (spawn amount, spawn delays)
can you make it say nothing (like og rundowns) and have a variable number of scan spawns
so diminished is just a fake alarm type?
some runs you get 6, some runs you get 8, etc etc
uhhh nothing yes
Variable scans?
Yep scam alert
All of this is going over my head. Exciting stuff
Vanilla GTFO would probably shit the bed if it tried that, unless you did some really jank stuff
Wait
Welp get ready for a very special guide tailored to just this topic!
I totally understand all of this 
Will it cover roles and heat bug?
ok so have a repeating fog event that doesnāt actually change the fog, but everytime the fog cycles, it cycles through conditional events to set the door alarm to something new on a loop
so itād be a set cycle of random alarms
@burnt flume it could work
But itād be weird
And likely to break probably
hm now I'm thinking right
biss
buss
GTFR is a thing, could you coopt how that works into it if you curated what alarms could go into each set
Hmmmmm
Maybe
GTFR is also notoriously unstable
But thatās mainly because of zone randomization
No offense Jish
Unstable if your goal is to clear levels, but what if your goal is the friends you made along the way
so tru
Pretty sure GTFR takes from a selection of all the alarms in the game, so if you hijack that system to select a group of predetermined alarms, you could theoretically make a random alarm
Like how I hijacked birther spawn types, just with a mod instead of vanilla shit
Could work
Iād just need to ask Jish
@pine root wya, we gonna crack open part of GTFR and make randomized alarms a reality
modded rundown developers don't talk about modded rundowns for 30 seconds challenge: FAILED
Roles?
Im prob not gonna talk about heat bug lol
enemies are marked under a role category for alarm
so there would be stuff like the miniboss category for alarms iirc
where you might get a big charger in a charger only alarm
biss buss boss megaboss best naming scheme
It's been like 7 years since I've heard people talk about this but you get the idea
ah that shit
It already is on the wave level
Or was
ill see
I dont think im rly gonna go into it much. But i wanted to go into what alarms can spawn (like the regular spawns (see 3 error of strikers) vs unqiue stuff (mom at the end of r8b4 secod alarm)
jish help Iām back on Malevolon Creek and the bots are coming
I will after I get home from work
In 4 hours
Zamn
good luck at work
And also good luck getting into helldivers lmao
itās probably better now that itās sunday night
Imagine not asking the german forces
cant believe
eva itās 1am for you
LMAO yeah it be like that
bros, any gun tierlists that i could follow, i understand that personal preference plays a big part,but purely stat wise im interested
who got the spreadsheet link?
i got mine here and theres another one somewhere
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CC_lsObUbvp7FrGt-MtQrcFvKQGsQ1FRLxIsREG6tu0/edit?usp=sharing
there's multiple?
tbf the one I was using hadn't been updated for r8 last I checked
there's the sleeper podcast
there's the toxic clique podcast
both those were done before the latest patch which didn't change all that much
yea
The poor sniper
Yeah so sniper in A tier now, no other changes
maybe shotgun would move
On mobile rn, so idk where it is
is there anything in specific you were looking for from the tier list(s)?
well, im new and i'd like to limit amount of missions i need to do to test weapons
so exclude bottom tier weapons
This is D4RKEVA's one, made as part of a ~podcast episode ("Sleeper podcast")
when is sleeper podcast gtfo chatter tier list
So if you want the full vid which includes some discussion there is that too
I mean it's not the worst tierlist by any means
yeah there's some bones to pick here and there but oh well
Nah that ones good Pachi.
it's not TheThugernaut
And here is Beth's one: #gtfo-media message
#gtfo-media message
Made as part of "toxic clique" ~podcast, so there was a VOD, might be gone now though
code hunters on top
Thanks for the tierlists guys ill look thru and test some loadouts š
Drop the beep tierlist
i already made mine
Send
also quick question, why are all hel weapons so good
im still early on in the game,but they dont feel like they have any huge advanatages
Because their stats are generally pretty good without factoring in over-penetration, so they get massive potential upside for little downside
people are definitely overlooking buckle uop
E.g. HEL Revo pretty comparable to DMR for most stats, and DMR is already pretty good, but then HEL Revo is also allowed to just deal double damage for free
seems my tier list was lost to beth not saving any of her vods
not at all!
there was a tier list and everything!
gone!
vanished because of the terrorist!
hel iron is good but damn the reload is long
š
hel what?
iron
ah, i see makes sense
I thought you understood him
its a big iron that shoots hel
a revolver?
Why isnt this guy banned already
yeah, an iron
another sleepyboi troll
Also bro doesnt know about reload cancel
this guy is on a streak
i aint a troll
THOSE ARE NOT COMMONLY CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONFUSING PLEASE CALL IT A REVOLVER THANK TOU
Beep flame this fool he blocked me
my dude have you not heard of a big iron
Someone ban this mf already
I HAVE BUT NO ONE ELSE HERE CALLS IT THAT
Welcome to the block list
He blocked you to
Who does he talk to in chat?
doesnāt he have the entirety of gtfo chat muted
I think so
I just played R1C1 with 3 bots.
He called him an asshole or smth
That was super intense!!
You gotta punch in those codes WHILE the wave keeps coming??
did u beat it
ofc not...
I had to go find a walkthrough guide to get it...
I wouldn't get past phase 1 and couldn't figure out why
real people know the maps and run forward and don't wait for me, they kinda ruin the gameplay...
I'm going through each map on my own once AND THEN play with real people.
I've finished R1A1 and R1B1 with real people at least once already
He called Eva a hateful goblin
I'd need someone real fast with termiinals for R1C1 now... š
Awww how could someone call my favourite female gtfo player a hate goblin
then they're wrong
Ban this guy please
sleepyboi calling other ppl wrong is insane
ACTUALLY
Na it is pretty funny the dude is becoming a jugger in gtfo chat
"everyone is stupid but me" is not a valid argument, I'm afraid to say
its a big iron
average american
average 16 year old american
i should test it
what is an iron?
Sleepyboi got the Big iron on his hip
The fuck?
u use it to straighten clothes
Johnny Cash song. About having a Revolver.
Surely he didnt block a fucking mod
was literally about to say that
Twould be funny
Gotta be a rule against that lmao
nah
legit i have no clue what āhel ironā would be
I hear āironā and my first thought was scattergun
Because iron sights
Iron can be used to describe revolvers but it isnāt generally used in this context. It is like cowboy slang
OLD
Dumbass american slang
He probably goes into his 10th grade class wearing some $2 cowboy hat with some fuckin tumbleweed in his mouth
yeah I only figured that out from chat logs
i hear iron and imagine one falling on his head :3
I can assure you nobody uses ābig ironā in a non-sarcastic way
i don't think he has schools near where he lives
so true
or that he is allowed anywhere near them
Yeah i sometimes use it lmao
haaiiii :3
hai :3
if i have like a fat ass pistol in a game
Based
He is 16 so idk
Maybe in the future
wouldn't you like a GTFO like game (or maybe a GTFO dlc) set in egyptian ruins?
with egyptian culture enemies?
that would be cool
Dw so do i
But instead of flashlights and guns, you carry around a stick with your shirt on it on fire and a spear
yeaa knock on dog-headed dudes
who?
Sleepy
that's sick! love it.
who?
dayum
Damn
whats that?
I am in fact, not blocked
Dak you're doing something wrong
š
Just react to his message if it doesnāt let you you are blocked
Iām doing my job
Nuh uh
Dak made Occlusion. Hes impossible to hate.
lies
a game from the dark pictures series
its a interactive story like The Until Dawn
I am quite hateable
thats a good reason to hate.
I reverted the sniper change
not really
someone gonna hate me for that
snipers ass anyway
exfucking scuse me?
It aint ass my guy
yo' that "house of ashes" game looks a-mazin!!!
its slow and niche, solely a boss killer
I just miss my 3 mag š¢
sniper is decent on your rundown?
You still looking? We have 3
IF ONLY I COULD RUN OCCLUSION
this is the highest form of cap I have ever seen
What in the hell
sniper is borderline S tier rn
solely a boss killer?
Okay
???
what about giants, hybrids and others
Wouldnt go that far
not rn. thanks!!
āSolely a boss killerā
its not that great on bbcs
hel rifle or scattergun
from a distance
EXACTLY
true but its "decent"
scatterguns too upclose sometimes hel rifle doesnt do the same dmg
i dont like sniper
ok
well thats a u issue
Then say that
Im a scatter stan
Sniper got super cracked after the Tumor Host/Clients Change. @jade dirge
Donāt call it ass
its slow, it has no ammo, its just bad
is it that good now?
No way he says hel shotty is bad
your ass has the effective range of a toothpick
also the effective range of one of your arguments
please come to the next gun debate with actual evidence
Rather than āi dislike gun, it badā
hel shotgun my beloved
legit the worst reason to call a gun bad
Hel shotty needs a buff
I like this guy
Give it scatter damage pls
that gun carried me through my darkest times
He probably has jish blocked so it dont matter
want to know what gun isnt as bad as people claim it is? mp
machine pistol?
its.......
Literally worse Autopiss
its got decent enough range now, and its got great crowd killing
mp slaps
autopiss is piss, its got no range and the damage of a wet fart
"great crowd killing" also calls hel shotty shit
???''
bro
finish R1 first
then come to talk about guns
Ong
HOLYYYY
GET THIS MAN A MEDAL
bro
no, just because i havent finished one doesnt mean i know nothing about the guns
Yes it does
finish R1 first
then come to talk about guns
Hel PP is LITERALLY BETTER AT CROWDS
autopistol bad, machine pistol good
finish R1 first
then come to talk about guns
?
it has no damage
Beat R1B2
HAHAHA
finish
R1
Your argument has no damage
@jade dirge Just stop. You're just digging the hole deeper now my boy.
are you gonna say something new or repeat the same bullshit over and over
That is what a TEAMMATE is for
the same goes for you
Thats what you have been doing the past week
Are you gonna beat R1B2?
already did
did you get carried?
dont call me boy, thats fucking rude
TEAMMETES DONT WANT THE STAGGER PLAYER
nope
MANY PEOPLE DONT KNOW THIS
i cannot believe that
He got carried in r7d2, says he didnt and says its easier than r1b2
With the takes you have been spouting
like hell i did
you totally did
no way someone with the brain of a striker can beat R7D2
š¤·āāļø
now pable
im talking about r1b2
Its called a biter
im having fun :)
rose only got there after the hard part

nah id say the same
Its okay i forgive you
Sleepyboi you want to know something funny
certidied jugger moment
Hel PP and MP do the exact same dmg
no, mp does 1.9
MP has 50 bullets, 1.9 dmg each, total 95
autopiss does 1.5
its the per bullet damage i dont like, not the per mag
thats a stupid argument then lmao
they deal the same dmg and diff stagger lmao
if i have to magdump to get an effect, its not a good gun
why u looking at bullet dmg for a pea shooter
What are you doing with mp
machine pistol hits hard enough and often enough that a quick burst takes down targets
why didnt you say shit like that to pdw lmao
If not magdumping
shhhhh you are talking to someone with the brain of a Gallus Reptus
just leave it
shooting things i dont like in quick bursts
MP is literall mag dump
bro help i am going to fry my brain
This is hurting my head to read
I think I am slowly getting more stupid
thats why u dont take baits lmao
I normally can take baits
omg hai thuger
Without losing my mind
This guy is on a whole nother level
sometimes even gods break
the one time i peek in this chat and this is going on
Wait till he finds out about spear range
Genuinely the most stupid, most incompitent, ignorant baffoon ive ever talked to
baiter do be baiting
this is killing my brain
badger actually is good
@wicked solstice I live in the deep south and this even pushes the level of ignorance I see on a daily basis.
dak i think you're arguing in bad faith so you can own someone who doesn't know what they're talking about
@latent palm warp him to destination
i will admit badger can get alot of interesting shit shown and done
got me, Iām cooking my brain like an egg for fun
True, badger has the skill
thats too nice for them
then dont complain about it
Mountain man you're a little bit better
sniper sentry glitch to N-scout D2
R you gonna play with sleepieboi
that shit crazy
honestly i will take beep and mtn trolling at this point
i hope so
at least when they troll itās funny
than what
Jish did you see what i was saying?
lemme send it for you
tbh i think mountain man could carry sleepyboi r8e2
sleepy doesnt even know what a mom is š
is it weird after clearing r8e2 last night i want to do it again
I unno Sleepy prob think that MP is the best weapon for R8E2.
ty but im not trolling
"mp and autopistol are the same except auto does damage twice" is not a good argument
Yeah but like, calling autopiss garbage over MP is just wrong
isn't that what you're doing
auto isnt garbage, but i think mp is better
iām not saying you arenāt allowed to like MP, and ik skilled players like you can use it well
what
just kiss already
im a.. skilled player???? epic!!!!1š„°
nah i just hate it when ppl flame shit for no reason
out of curiosity why do people not like bullpup
is it bc of the decently long reload animation
slow af reload for a main weappn
ah figured
Donāt tell dragon
no damage
feels great to shoot
Reload for me . Cant reaload cancel .
i really like it cause it has good recoil control and not a lot of spread
bullpup stinky
But not much dmg and reload slooooow
ive been thinking about trying other primaries but im a bit stubborn
i keep forgetting what did you even brought for main yesterday
what do u run rn?
generally i always run bullpup and mg LOL
hel revo prob
he runs slug shotgun
Try them all
Yeah I brought hel revo
ive never really run into a situation where bullpup and mg couldnt take care of stuff for me but i also always play with a friend who runs scattergun and i just kinda like clearing waves with my brain off
ive been thinking about trying hel shotgun
Bug iron you mean
Mb mb I really need to start using the actual names
it is the biggest trap
Would be nice
Ignore the fast af firerate
figure hel shotty is nice for just pen rounds and staggering
actually been meaning to try hel revolver so maybe once i go back and do the rundowns i missed
good gun imo
I like the triple pew small iron in main
LOL Jish
PDW my beloved
jish please stop speaking british
english only channel
We dont like the british here
hello divers lmao
Idk why my phone
Like hello kitty, but with guns
Does this
Hello neighbors nockoff
wait its not intentional?
no I just type and my phone fucks me up
lol
I can type big without it correcting to bug
i know the feeling
IDK what is wrong
Boomer hands
i had to train my phone out of correcting certain things
I think it builds character
regular pistol seems kind of like the rifle, but more ammo and iron sights so easier to aim
I can show you boomer ass hands
yea it's a weapon
alright, thanks for helping me figure out my loadout, gn 
see ya
Beastage
S weapon: burst pistol

Slug Shotgun is SS weapon

isnt bullpup universally hated on?
its hated by smart people because it sucks
horrible reload and meh damage output
headshot automatic š
LMAO
quickly shut down the helldivers 2 servers again so he sees it
š
stfu
and stay out
fucking valorant whatchu think this is?
get mad about a mistake all you want its true
also when else have you seen me on this chat
ngl I assumed you where another virus link bot
im not
chatcbt would have given a full morality rant when questioning it
true
if this is a chat gpt comeback then how about this awdaqdfaelfsbjofsabnfjodsfojgdsfeangjdefrgvdesafr
he didnt pay for the 4.0
i can continue speaking in SATGANIC if your not convinced
isnt 4.0 even dumber because it got trained on christmas brained chat
thats the joke



is anyone experienced willing to help me finally beat r4c3 pe š
@unreal crystal
too hard

cuernos
rip
get @blissful dome
hes better gamer than me
they dont run on redbulls and new port
why am i being pinged
i cant play rn
:C
nuhuh kaiser
dont you dare say it
youve been summonded in Darksouls 3 tradition
summon phantom "IFO"?
nooooooooooooooooooo
R4C3 hard carry for them 1st
then D1-E1 for them
then ill gibe nitro
nuhuh
no deal
i aint dying for nitro
i already know how to do the whole level; i just suck
that or i've just been getting unlucky
I pick option a) what's my score
score?
tf does that mean in the context of gtfo
Do you suck or have you been unlucky
well my last loss was completely out of my control
i do fine usually; but it just feels like a copout to blame the losses on teammates or being unlucky and i'm not sure where else the problems lie
it's more like 0/12
š
š
I mean your team will affect your gameplay
It's a coop game
If you could carry that would be another story
I doubt
yeah no i'm not that good yet lol
still
i can't figure out if it's me or just my teammates i keep getting
Both
rip
u still on?
uhh it's a little late, i was going to sleep soon
thanks mate
If only you are this kind to me
if only u didnt cheat š
shameless
Things happen
mwah
Fine ill forgive you for torturing me on that last C2 scan
We didnāt checkpoint I remember?
mwah
But that med steal was a kick in the groin
Dw just dont revive next time so i can leave early 
nuhuh
i dont think so
I almost did the pistol only achievement
??????????
"... >:("
"... >:("
how to copy thing into ingame chat?
ya cant
that suck
I main pyro lol
gross
gross
does clearing the secondary and overload of missions give also reward or just bragging rights?
It gives u an achidvsndnt
so it's just bragging rights then š¤
ye
More gameplay
The reward is the scouts we met along the way
its normally just more level so your doing it for the sake of seeing the extra content
same as playing the game itself
The same as why you are playing the game :P
completing levels just gives bragging rights and content too
I defo did not word that correctly
I'm tired wtv
well I already finished all R1-R3 and halfway on R4 and didn't seem to get any additional rewards, also completed some higher levels but not in order. I'm saying this because someone I paired up with said that you can get rewards from clearing secondary and overload and just want to clarify things up, and also bragging rights is not bad because I can say that I cleared secondary and overload you'all š¤
It used to give extra cosmetics
Doesn't anymore
doing exttra objectives makes the level more fun theres your incentive
Speak š£ļø
beas-
I know where you live
that was original r6
and I dont think the ones from that are in the item pool so you would have to mod them in if you cared now
honestly think they should've given them for completing all overload and extreme objectives in the game now that we got achievements for that
Fr
salut j'ai une question est-ce qu'on peut faire poser les tourelles des bots ?
Salut, j'ai une rƩponse. Vas poser ta question en anglais
You'd think that would be the obvious solution.
Wouldn't getting every single non exclusive cosmetic be the ultimate reward, but alas.
I guess but with those cosmetics there's a set condition that existed to get them, and it wouldn't be hard to rework those conditions to work in the current version of GTFO
I mean consider this: For events, they have you complete ANY level and you get a cosmetic from said event, I've no idea how hard it'd be to just adapt that but for all of the loot pool but I dont think it'd be that hard
I'd just added the OG r6 cosmetics to that pool and call it a day
im pretty sure all it does is ping the server they use telling it to unlock it
It would be so cool to beat R8E2 and get like a dozen cosmetic unlocks.
It's like a celebration.
Getting kinda black pilled on everything
Lost hardcore subnautica run to a glitch. Masterpiece of a game, but dear lord its held by spit and duct tape. Is there a single game out there that isn't broken, unbalanced or unfinished?... Makes one depressed.
tbh just install the deviouslick mod if you have beaten it
all games are buggy by nature
No, the "open beta test" culture created this
games are so complicated now compared to, say, pong, it's near impossible to make it robust enough to deal with any possibility
older ones normally work better
I mean... It's a scale, right?... One bug a day vs reliable issues that just become part of it.
I mean it kinda is just no one has any incentive to try anymore
Super shit game breaking bugs weren't as much of a thing when the dsls weren't as common and so shit had to be tested a lot more (with exceptions)
and game engines themself keep having issues now
nah
things are very very different
sure, day one patching as a possibility has made things easier to fix on the go
Ironic since everything I see is either a version of Unity, UE4, or a proprietary engine
but game development is infinitely more complex nowadays than it ever was
and that results in more bugs
and the funniest part is its normally the proprietary engine games that run the best
That's because most proprietary engine games actually have USUALLY decent budgets
Consider also that some companies are SO afraid of leaks that they run testing processes through a lot of hoops
ive seen too many higher budget unreal engine trashfires to have that be the only reason
it's like cars. old cars had fewer parts, less electronics, simpler mechanics. modern cars have tons of interacting electronic parts and very complex engineering that means that theres lots more points of failures
though yeah it does take a shit ton of money to go that route
I feel like that ain't as true as you think
Take B4B and L4D
Is B4B really that MORE COMPLEX
or is L4D just better polished and developed :^)
I love me some polish. Polish is the greatest thing.
but one of them is valve, a large company, but the other is an indie offshoot
making a more complex game
Irrelevant, L4D was also done by turtle just like B4B
Yes because of crowbcat video
People changed, blood changes...
l4d was not made by turtle rock studios
which just proves that polish isn't inherent to how complex a game is
but merely to how much shit the devs think they can get away with
I dont think that comparison works well when talking about coding
Turtle rock knew they could just say "from makers of L4D" to get free sales
Tf2 is pretty polished. Dota is pretty polished, except for main menu absolutely BURNING my PC.
tf2 is and was a mess
Because Valve still gives a shit
oh the code for it is an abomination yet it somehow runs fine
remember pyro update? the update that actually made the class not a walking bug?
This "Complex games plz understand" mentality makes me angry since it's used to justify totally lying shit like Cyberpunk or NMS






