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Ladder foam 😎
freeze enemies
thats it
I never bring it and just use the grenades around the map if I need it
Also... I was playing Pubs in that so I got lucky to have a adaptive team
It's just containing foam?
Cfoam launcher is very useful
It locks doors and knees, that's all it does
Rare actual good pub encounter
I usually bring bio cause I'm blind without it in stealth
Perma foaming
The VC also had a mute teammate but he was only telling us if Mother or Tank was in room
Some levels dont have c nades
correct but those also dont need foam
?
Hiw do you even tell if there's a mom or a tumorback in a room
Do they move like feelers?
Teammate used ingame chat
They make different stretching noises
He was muted on VC but he definitely helped us greatly
I dont find much benefit in foaming a door without mining it
We had a situation where a Mother and Scout was in room with ATON of enemies in it
and im not willing to bring both
How would he even know theres a mom or a tumorback in a room
Yeah thats why you take foam and mines
He can hear ingame?
The enemies make unique noises?
Certain enemies yes
Yeah thats what i said
Wait nvm he blocked me lmao
they sound close to chargers
I can't hear shit so I though all enemies made the same noise
Ok. Mothers, Tanks makes different noises
🥺
i will never block you cutie
your going to hate moms then because their sleep animations suck

Big strikers too
Thanks pookie 😘
Funky, do they move too or are feelers the only enemies that move without being awoken
Scouts are the ONLY enemies that move
So if o see a biosig in a closed room that's a feeler
Yes
Yes
And I'll never know of there's a tumorback or a mom because I can't hear lol
If theres something moving its a scout
Pretty much
Unless you know the level
VERY much so
I completed that E2 on my 4th attempt
Since I didnt have a team that I know to help me with it
Took me a week with pubs 😵💫
Pro tip putting "EXPERIENCED ONLY" in your lfg does nothing
took me 2 week for B4 sec
I think it attracts more noobs tbh
they join out of spite
I didnt do it until the nerf 😎

what nerf?
Latest patch nerfed b4 sec
You KNOW IT.
Hugely
Before it was
He watched me gained PTSD for that level
no the absurd spawnrate was part of main not secondary
Why did I find main fairly easy?
so all it would add is a couple punchy boys to what was effectively a surge alarm of normals
I couldnt finish that C1 of Dak's after that hell of a Pmom experience because the Terminal got bugged to death and
Daks just said that "I got the win" cuz of that Pmom hellscape
probably got lucky with your team
2 man it was hellish
Frosty here doing maddening Duo runs while Im doing Soundless
I wonder which option is more painful
the secondary reactor itself was easy funny enough
Dude 2 manning levels when I was a noob was painful
I had to do the whole game like that lol
R2C1 took almost 2 hours
Damn
I just resorted to lfg's in the end when I had no friends to play with
idk what to do now since I finished my soundless madness
I tried that and it was worse
Challenge runs
I was SO driven hard to finish it all
Have you done r5e1 cell skip?
Cell skip?
new game or mods
r5e1 take the cell to the exit door instead of shutting off the error alarm
Yeah so you know how you get that cell and take it back to stop the error? Yeah you just skip that and go straight to the door with the giant alarm and plug it in there
ah ok
Saves like 25 mins and you skip like 40%% of the level
but the error remains
Yes
Soundless is ALREADY a step higher in terms of difficulty
soundless phantoms
EVEN fireblade didnt want to do it when I asked him long ago
Complete samdown soundless 😏
play with 0 way to detect where they are other then being smacked by them
Already done that in R7C2 PE attempts
lol
note they arnt shadows, they literally have no visible model lol
That sounds like Stress hell honestly
Im not ready to suffer the hell that I did in Dak's C1
I lost a couple years of life
Where a baby woke and was dancing around Pmom while I clenched my ass so hard with spear in hand trying to stab it without waking up Pmom
THAT was the moment I lost those few years of life
pain
Dak witnessed it all
I just realized they could probably make phantom pmoms if they wanted
You said phantoms are loud, how loud
very
Like, gunshots and crane noises
yes
Ok ill be able to hear those
but arent those on modded rundowns?
What's next, a tumorback without tumors that isn't the stug?
Or a mom that just summons biters?
||the last one already exists||
mom that summons moms that summon tanks
blyat
What sorta sadistic rundown would add that
r8 prob lmao
i dont think he didnt want to do it because it was too hard
Oh hmm
What's with this place randomly dying
i'm sorry we can't talk in gtfo chat 24/7
i think if you block less people you can see more messages
Yeah but the people I have blocked are the people that are better off being ignored
I'm completing missions
Sadly I can't hear shit but things are in fact going, bio gun IA my saving grace and I usually run with teammates that can hear
XD
Thats exactly how I started out
Just know at some point, you will probably want to try a different tool once youre comfortable with that idea
Hey probably not the best place to send this but Im kind of grasping at straws, my friend and I just got right up to the end of r4d2 and hes the host and lost connection but Im still here, invites arent working and when he tries to join me it does nothing. Is there any possible way to get him back in?
I'll probably never swap off bio
You will probabaly need to send him ur lobby ID
It's an incredible utility if you can't hear shit
IF that doesnt work, then the run is fucked
u should try hearing stuff
💀
so ur admitting u can?
[music]
Last time I tried, which was in OG R6D1 I didnt do so well
it's nice to see another person who is hard of hearing try the soundless challenge
so I went soundless from then on
Buddhist Monk? XD
Every mission is soundless except for gunshots and yelling
y is ur pfp tf2 dragons
hm, what about when scout screams and for some reason the game loses almost all sound
Its not Team Fortress 2 dragons lol
yes it is
The 2 dragons is meant to represent my two sides of myself
aint no way
thats so relatable man
Is that a soundbug?
Is that how it happens?
yup, no idea how to replicate it other than screw up stealth, be a client, and now the rest of the expedition you can't hear
I didnt know thats how it happens
most of the time it happens with respawn cocoons and spitters
ive heard boosters can also affect it
Heh
Haha. Yup. I feel so lonely being at the top of the Soundless ladder... I need someone up here
im at the top
who's your competition
I need like... Any rundown I can help. I need log achievement. (Consider Im a mute that doesn't talk in VC)
Try finish ALL levels without sounds
It IS ALOT of gtfo
Peter literally did outgrowth duo without sounds
i dont think its very challenging
(sound bug LOL)
or not as challenging as you make it out to be
especially if you are able to hear in discord
if you were COMPLETELY soundless, like no discord no gtfo no sounds at all
maybe its a different story
but having a tool that gives you vision on all enemies and even some guns now
its pretty chill you just have to look around more than u do with sound
Shadows does complicate that a bit
go with 4 players doing this challenge, see how long it takes for someone to realize they need to go revive a downed squaddie
given chat is a thing i dont think it'd take long
ppl would just see
PLAYER is downed
and be like
ok
Would they? I can barely see cocoons
I can understand that, but so far, in all of my hard levels, My teams wanted me to VC which doesnt work half of the time since that function is specialized in a certain way thats not exactly meant for gaming
Its either VC or no Team
Wyvernking do u know how to reload cancel
gotcha
Reload cancel makes hel revo so good
I tried running Hel Revo but it didnt feel good for me
Just gotta get into it I guess
It is the best main weapon in the game
Learn to reload cancel it and you're set
HUH
HUH
Nah. Im good where Im at
I prefer Range and by that, I prefer med-long range weaponry
Im better precision-wise on those
Fair
I tend to end up in extreme close range regardless of what im using
Got the swift achievement on R3D1 today, god I love the veruta
scatter of gun
Scattergun for scout
beastage
what the fuck
even hotter
NO
.t gtfo
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
We duo the entire game hitless soundless and without eyes with only 4 fingers one hand and a foot petal with bots(also hitless ) no bc
Tonight to be at the top of the soundless ladder
Thank your Mr Fortnite sir
actually shameless behavior
play with joystick and button
Now do steering wheel
Tjoma balls
I will sniper melee you
run while u can
G-g-gulp 😰
can you stop respwan room with a sentry in there?
No you cant
Enemies will respawn if everyone is at least 2 rooms and 1 zone away
So if you are 2 rooms away, but in the same zone as the respawn room, they wont respawn. But if you are in a different zone and 2 rooms away, they will
if u keep ur sentry there it will shoot at enemeis when they respawn
ok thx for the answer
Np have fun in your games 👍
its, too quiet in here
indeed
engineer sex
Shlorp cat
🤝

I'm debating on moving on from R1C1 for now
did you complete it yet or
whats breaking first
supplies
which
all of them
bots suck on the med packs after the Hybrids show up
tools run out of ammo
ammo runs out of ammo
your probably coming back too early then
inb4 4x autosentry
bots can handle r1c1 fine
2 burst 1 snipe 1 Bio
I did R1C1 with a friend and two bots
are you placing all of them at once at the start
you're better off with people
start off with only 1 turret then add the rest over time when you feel its needed
I might have to
What guns r u using
you more or less have to on all reactors or you will run out of tool ammo by the end
I've been experimenting with various ones to see what works vs the swarm
What do you run the most
is it bad I found the most success with the Shelling primary and one of the LMGs?
Use the normal names please
whatever works for you man
shelling is pistol
you say "normal names" like I have them memorised xD
How is shelling easier to remember than pistol
because that's one of the few I remember
first one on the list
AR, HAR is normally the easiest loadout for new people to use on that level just its ammo efficiency sucks
the shelling 549 ?
STOP SPREADING MISINFO YOU FREAK
im jumping on to check names
that is unironically what every new person I play with grabs when they do it
For me I live by the bullpup rifle
Shelling S49 + Veruta XII
both of those guns are very easy to control in a gaint hallway
but others will outdo them if thats not an issue
@earnest flame have 1 other player atleast. 1 person can ferry ammo to the team each wave while someone else does code. Use dmr or hel revo or carbine for primary and an mg or hel gun/hel rifle for special
MANUFACTURER ALERT MANUFACTURER ALERT 
my ability to kill with handguns has always been higher than other guns in most games
thanks Metal Gear 👍
can you handle hel revolver then
I LOVE TO RELOAD DURING A BATTLE
:)
how much ammo does the Revolver have?
and its borderline impossible to run out of ammo
If you want the easiest win just lfg the level and get 4 players
fair
I would, but at this point it's a challenge to beat this pos
note its a lot less forgiving for missing shots
you could find time and announce it in the lfg-beginners channel
good thing I know how to aim 👍
yeah
I'm looking for someone to do it with
Есть пара (меня не считать).
Есть русский сервер #hc-europe message
А так тут интернационал, с английским в приоритете.
Thanks for taking care of kkomrades 
Есть
yeah I decided I dont like the Hel Revolver
it feels like I'm doing nothing with it
There's not really a better Main tbh.
eh still not like necessary for all missions, it is very very good but u can always stick to somethin else
It's not really about necessity.
You can beat all content with burst pistol + short rifle.
But that loadout is just objectively much less potent than anything else.
If you want to contribute as much as possible and get better at the game, you should be playing HEL Revo.
i mean im not sayin u stick to bad guns of course
but there is other very good main weaponry like dmr or hel shottie etc etc
theres things to still choose
If they're not playing well, other Mains won't really make up for that.
is the short rifle not good? what would you recommend for good ammo efficiency against normal waves instead
Veruta machine gun, hel gun, etc etc
Burst sentry + reasonable main weapon
Can get a lot of wave clear even without dipping into your special weapon
yeah i run burst sentry and hel rev or bullpup rifle atm
Oh combat shotgun is also great for ammo efficiency vs regular enemies if you use it well
Two answers:
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If you want ammo efficiency, it's better to have it on a weapon that is also really strong in other ways. Short rifle makes loads of sacrifices, combat shotgun does not. HEL Gun and HEL Rifle get a lot of eco if you abuse pen value, and that pen value also gives them a ton of burst clear.
-
Ammo efficiency tends to depend team accuracy far more than any weapon stat. If you focus on landing shots, you will just have more ammo.
note when I said it punishes missing I meant it punishes not getting headshots
Getting all of the ammo in places you've been is also a big deal. Especially for levels with time pressure, not unusual for the average group to not be organized enough to loot comprehensively while playing quickly.
New here re-downloading GTFO since 2020 80 minutes of play time.... where do I start to find a group to hop into a lobby with?
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
LFG north america got it
It might be an idea to play the first 2-3 levels with bots to try find your footing
or host a lobby yourself on one of the a tier levels
thanks a bunch, gonna try out the combat shotgun instead
yeah we were kinda forced to get better at that on r1c1
do hel shotgun/combat shotgun

The tutorial made it really easy to comprehend!
Been looking for a group for R8D2 and R8E2 for three hours, still not a single person.
"The game will only grow from here" 🤡
🐟
is there any option that removes the effect when looking at a light projector?
Did you try the regional lfgs
Yes.
yeah I'm giving up on R1C1 solo
its so RNG on how many resources you have to work with you need people to do supply runs
true solo or solo with bots?
honestly dont think I'll ever do solo solo in this game lol
I recommend trying it, R1B1 might be the easiest level to win true solo. If you make it through the first class II alarm, the rest is pretty straightforward.
last time I did B1 I went through 2 alarm doors, and decided to do the key door to avoid the 3rd
worked out as the correct choice lol
Try the regional lfgs, people love that mission
I have no idea what lfg is
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
i wanna game end myself
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
How do i find poeple to play with pls help 🥺

hmm a matchmaking question
because I have not finished C1 yet
if I matchmake for C - D difficulty
will it force me only into C1 or will it allow me into the others?
are you referring to ingame matchmaking or discord lfg?
ingame
dont even bother with ingame mm
oh god it tried to throw me into R7
Dont use ingame mm, its not really intuitive and you dont really have a lot of control over it
yeah I see it
plus not many people use it
I was thinking "I'm in R1, it should put me into R1 lobbies"
nope
xD
I am down to run it with you
I am also in R1
sure we can give it a shot
I'll make a team of 2 VC
are you NA btw?
nvm, net is being unstable atm
hi, im having trouble finding people to play on the spanish server, is it okay if i play here? i can read and write english but i kinda suck at hearing and speaking
its fine
ty
as long as u let ur teammates know sure
welp R2A1 was easy
I’m tryna play an LFG but all of them be European
🇺🇸
:D
That’s a tier for you
finally home
welcome home traveler
thank you sex
Any time
is there any way to make weapon look straight while running?
yes, first person inertia setting
pull out your melee or your tool, they use your body flashlight
turn down first person inertia to 0%
its on gameplay i believe
and while you're at it, turn down screen shake to 0 too
a oh, thank you very much
u can put it a lil up so u have the animation i have it like 5 10 or so
even at 0 it moves
oh
Lowering the inertia setting is much better, melee / hack tool use a weaker flashlight than weapons / long range flashlight
better than no light
The weaker flashlight typically has a lower FOV as well compared to most weapons
would you rather have a consistent, low light or a shaky, off ot the side, but bright light
turn off inertia...
wtf
that's why you lower the inertia, it's no longer shaky or off to the side
:\
turns it to max with depth of field and motion blur
immersion
wait y’all lower the inertia and motion blur?
i don't
i kinda want to max motion blur just for the sake of it
._.
That’s fine, it’s what settings are for lol
simply run with your camera at a 30 degree angle
like I’ll turn it off in some games
Motion blur is a normal setting to turn off.
But GTFO’s I’ve found to be fine
Inertia is just preference
i want to max out motion blur just to see how bad it gets
turning that kind of stuff of almost feels like cheating to me when i'm used to having it on lol
inertia is wack shouldnt have it unless u like immersion
nuhuh
im keeping it on
just run
with your head slightly tilted up
trust me
🤓 ☝️
shlorp
💦
always feels to me like
this game has subtle stuff like inertia that can make the game a small bit harder
and it ends up feeling to me like they want the game to be easier so they turn it off
so it feels cheap to me xD
uh~
i like havinf things a little spookier
i always thought your gun being off to the side was intentional
yeah exactly
m
after few hours it becomes mundane
enjoy it while u can 
i thought it was so that if you have a ranged options readily available, you cant see far enough to evaluate a threat
it also kinda feels like you're intentionally taking away some of the game's animation polish lol
but maybe that's just me
the only thing that bothers me about it is that functionally your flashlight is still pointing straight forward, even if visually it's off to the side
I'm afraid of the dark so this game will always scare me
you should use the funny no lights command every time 
so you can't turn off spitters by looking like 30° off to the right
Theres a command that kills the lights?
yeah

you should try it
Shlorp I'm already afraid of the game as is
i know and you should try complete darkness
shlorp
theres a command for max infectious fog
its also like level 2
so
they'll have to play levels in darkness eventually anyway
i already cant hear, how do you think taking away my sight will go?
let them enjoy what they have for now
itll basically be radar simulator
pdw will compensate 
they'll miss it more when it's gone and they can't get it back
ill die before using pdw
r7c1 with no lights snatcher part might be lil funny for him
or a heart attack
r5a2 secondary
im sorry theres a
fucking WHAT
that will be a fun one 🫢
im lucky i found snatchers later, at the bulkhead encounter
?
what level
idfr
im guessing r5a2?
to be fair, those graphics options were introduced more recently and weren't present for a large portion of the games lifespan
I understand your point but there is also the thing of keeping it to what you're used to, irrespective of difficulty
yeah, those people i can definitely understand
what people?
the people that the person you blocked just talked about
oh
Also I think it kinda looks bad, but that's personal preference probably
that played the game before inertia was added
I don't like motion blur or camera shake effects, same for stuff moving too much, bad for the eyes
yeah, i don't mind it really at all
i got a little annoyed about it at first but now i think i'd dislike it more if i turned it off
why is the tutorial scary
pardon me WHAT? since when there is a tutorial?
yeah the training mission in the top left of the level select screens
im just downloading it again ^^" played it the first 2 rundowns
SORRY
im a recovering roblox baby ive never rlly played an ACTUally cool game
accept for halo
uuuuuh
makes me wonder what game that is
creatures of sonaria
pls say redfall pls say redfall
GTFO isnt the average type of game
it was skyrim
just saying
i know
im going to die the second i get into the first rundown but anything to not go back to roblox
thats all i want in a game
play tarkov or hunt showdown as well while youre at it
interesting
its the game faults
the game is optimized like crap
😔
on a personal level i wouldnt even consider you "know the maps" til youre in the game for like 1500 hrs
x3
rlly??
yup
oh
yikes... wished that wouldve changed
after those yrs its out
reminds me of slime rancher 2 when my cousin plays it on my laptop it dies
lol
Eh I wouldn’t say crap
is there a ping addon that pings the item eternally, even after you walk away
but for the most pars ok
gardens
thats probs a thing to ask mod server
no i mean like -t
when r1d1 couldnt
???????
ah nope
It just runs badly on a certain type of hard drive iirc
-t pings eternally, but only while you stand there, is there a way to keep it going after i walk off
i cant ping -t?

im just asking if theres another letter that pings even once teh pc goes into sleep
my computer prolly wont if its already dying at the training
its probably because im stalling so hard though
best you can get is 1 ping off ther terminal using terminal storage
u can always try using geforce or lowerin ur settins hard
whats terminal storage?
i have geforce and id rather die than lower my settings
i play at pixeled graphics
i can see the pixels on the walls
dying on that hill

FOUL
sorry i meant geforce now
:D
byess
its a lot funkier n cooler
there is not, to be clear
i played the first 2 entire rundowns. thats literally years ago
:)
i wanted to try it again after some time
hope u have funs tryin it again :D
i did it yipee
once i played the new tutorial imma hop into agame
:D
btw @rose nova
if u put a lobby i could join
i saw you playing R7
yes C:
which levels you still need to do?

me still stuck on r4c3
both c3s both hard as bols
R7C3 isnt that hard
could help u tomorrow if my internet allows me
what is a warden protocol
somethin u will see in r5
7pm to 10 or 11 pm gmt+1
but yeah they are called "warden protocol"
literally the last time i played it it was when i heard about the VR mod
mmm perfect
smh ksmdkm
... i got no timeframe of that idk how long the vr mod has been up
its still up since i remember so ksdmkm
i need experienced help with r4c3 pe 😭
it's been up a while i think
yeah
so when you heard about it could've been a large range of time lol
came out like at the end of the either first or 2nd rundown
ohh
was pretty close then
Hey, does anyone here know who Quad is?
uhh the orange name?
Quad?
many quads here
quadanglo? don't think there'd be a reason to report the guy
from what i know he's chill and doesn't use any cheats
🦈
no, no that one
dak my first helldive was not it
question, is the ping anywhere mod thing considered a cheat
another person
somehow yes
its not qol for most people includin this server
cuz it's pretty much the one qol mod i was thinking of getting
well, that's the only quad I know so I'm no help
ah ok
I think ping everything is lame, just use words instead
No. It’s someone with username by cakewastrue
words hard
imagine if a satnav just fucking pinged the location of your destination IRL
What happened
…it wasn’t Malevolon Creek, was it
i was extacting humans from robots alone
coudlnt firgur out where they were
for 10 mins
then had to kite
May Super Earth have mercy on your soul
Robots
Start with the bugs
Do not the robots
They are way fucking harder than bugs
ESPECIALLY solo as a newbie
And those missions had me, Lurker, and a friend absolutely dying on difficulty 5
That is not it
was i suppost to be destorying there ships?
cuase it was like a surge ngl
You basically need 4 ppl for that mission, it’s essentially a surge yeah
what? why
Robot + planetside defense + level 1 = certainty of failure
AH
Go fight bugs for a bit
Join us on the frontlines when you’ve advanced a bit
i am typing and chilling
The Malevolon Creek Crawlers and I need the help tbh
We’re struggling against the automatons so hard on that planet
The funny
Idk honestly, probably because they want you to have the freedom
But as a new player, you should absolutely go for bugs first
The triangles in yellow zones are missions that you can initiate, white hexagons are missions that are in progress by randos, and green hexagons are missions in progress with a steam friend in it
what are small red dots on bio scaner?
a bug, anything thats alive will be a big red dot
i think its the same as a sleeper, so just treat it like its asleep
i've seen scouts be small red dots
feelers will always be big red dots
but they small
funky
Well then it’d move
i'm aware
treat it like a sleeper
just saying that, it's not strictly the same as a white dot
but you were mad i didnt remove the warning

well I knew I could lower motion blur
I choose not to
You legit looked at that photosensitivity warning for over 2 years, and never thought you could turn it off?
Bugs went way better
I don’t like the yellow things tho
which yellow things?
oh the landmines
Yeah
Robot ones are way worse
also those yellow things might be a unique planetary plant
idk they are just annoying to clear
Idk if you mean the terminid ones or the planetary ones
The yellow flower with blackish blue spikes?
Yeah yellow flower
you are german
And you go to sleep early
So yes
I “avoid you” because timezones XD
"sleep early"
yeah
i was awake til 1 am
that 1 am is like 7pm for east coast
yup
i’m usually busy until like
6-8 my time
altho this week I’ll have a break

finally able to play r1c2
do you guys love it when your entire team goes down to a giant backhand and then the last remaining bot decides reviving you is a good idea instead of shooting the giant and loses the mission a hour in
Sounds like an issue of trusting your teammates too much to keep distance from the giant while charging melee
I would recommend you find a new team
Who you don't trust
Chargers my beloved
One of my favorite enemies in this game
Love the design
Dw I have an axe
its scary down there
same but nightmares replaced em for me
Yeah but if something scares me I can hit it with an axe
What were those? R8 enemies correct?
yes
Will i?
yes
Can you melee them
yes
Easy or hard
extremely
no
:((
they bite and slap
Ouchies
they are cool tho r8b1 you see them
Alr ty!

alright I'm lookin for a public opinion poll on the slug shotgun and short rifle
both are good (they arent stay away from them)
I really like having a special weapon that behaves like a main, to pair with the slug that behaves kinda like special, but the stagger is just miserable
don't know how slug shotgun stacks to other big damage specials but it's served me well enough, I usually like high cal
u can take sawed off instead of slug
its an upgraded version
u can take hel rifle or choke with it if you feeling zesty
a little silly, but I like to cover as many bases as I can as a lone player, have at least one "do all" weapon
I'm no stranger to clutching up
slug sort of feels like a decent high cal alternative in that I have big damage for giants or range and mag size to take out a few smalls
both are pretty weak
slug is lacking multiple stats, but specifically range. Its easy to use tho and does get clean kills in a 7 1/2 meter range on strikers
short rifle has ammo and can click fast. realistically just pick another wave clear focused special
Such as buckland shotgun or choke mod
sawed off basically does both of those better than slug
slug only rly is better vs shooters (which already is coping) and flyers
what?
They work w waves for me
pump or choke
But its all personal preference in the end
oh thats the part you meant
Yeah
both of those are more all rounders
Choke vs waves
pump is good but the fact that its the only shotty with 4 range is makes me dizzy

and their weird balancing hurts me again, because they really should not fill exactly the same role
choke is probably better wave clear on pubs than short rifle 
I would expect a slug shotgun to have significantly greater range than a sawn off but that's just me
they dont fill the exact same roles
slug is just weak which makes it not stand out for what it wants to be good at (while sawed off does other things WAAAAY better)
yes
but we didnt get that sadly so its pretty bad
tragedy
falloff matters less when you overkill smalls anyway
same for short rifle cuz it feels really good to my hands and I like how much ammo you can carry
well what really holds it back besides its abysmal stagger?
thats true but i cant bring myself to use it maybe i just like choke too much
I love the slug but it honestly isn't that great. You can increase the range of it by getting headshots with that sweet zero hipfire spread but sawed off just does it's job better.
meh dmg (4.8 is a shit breakpoint, especially cuz it harms its stagger even more)
meh range
heavy ar has mostly superior stats. and that weapons is meh already
even veruta is just "good"
and if you wanna play for headshots then just take smth like dmr
or devs cant balance properly
Exactly
man everything sux just take whatever looks cool
ol reliable carbine and high cal I suppose
change what you like
or deal with what you like
except for autopistol thats shts epic
like I said tho the combo has served me well enough, but me n my boys still routinely eat shit on C tier levels so I guess I'm not at a point to consider optimization of every aspect of the loadout
thats mostly due to fundamental skills
games clearable with everything in the end anyways
it just is harder than with adapted/good guns
loadouts do make runs a lil easier but wont carry you
skill issue 
so more or less there's not gonna be a single gun that'll cripple an entire expediton generally speaking
yes
well
the ol get good
it depends on your definition of cripple
crippling your chances? yes a lot of guns might
crippling the whole run into being impossible - no
say you all run short rifles a lot of crews who full cleared levels barely wouldnt be able to fuckin do it
well at that point it loops back to skill issue; can you make up for the gun's shortcomings or not
guns (and tools obviously) are important
skill is 1 part
loadouts are another
a good loadouts means you need less "skill"
😐
more skill means you can play with a worse loadout
not much of that to go around my group, probably stick to what always worked 
another dead attempt to a dumbass mistake
hi cal is still good right? 

(i mean mechanical/knowledge guides, not level guides)
yes
good beginner gun
good all rounder
that's what I like to hear
Id say mid
what happened
Good but not best
good enough‼️
They are "close"
especially since a lot of specials rn are overtuned
teammate foamed me out of the main room after i explicitly said i was dealing with the charger wave before we start the alam, and they pulled the alarm too
revo isnt close to high cal honestly (due to high cal being useful against non smalls)
i bet you can guess what happened next
yes
wzrexytcyvbiunoiml
i also solo killed a giant in stealth
my first time ever doing that
kinda proud lol
new autopistol fucks

what, the raptus 2, its awesome
machine pistol is raptus treffen 2
Autopistol is raptus steigro
Two different guns
wild how 1 word changes the whole context
"reworked machine pistol" would just be hel AP, which is not what is being talked about
how strange
indeed
Homeboy attempted E2 got scared after 5 minutes and immediately jumps back into talking bs 💀
what?
me when DMR autopistol combo
me when burst pistol / short rifle combo
Does the game have any bosses or is it just big enemies
yes it has bosses
whats the first boss mission
didn’t you play R7D2?
yeah, i ran r7d2 with rose
To those who completed the game or a large potion of it, whats the hardest level including stuff like 
the worst i encountered was a tumorback
R5E1 and R8E2 probably
r4e1/r8e2/r5e1
Oh yeah and that one lmao
Yeah, a boss
Tanks
Are bosses
yea depends on your team honestly
thats hardly a boss, you just play ring around hte rosy, but using a shotgun
You asked, we answered
i mean a big, unique encounter thats difficult, it has a proper arena
there’s that, birthers and their variants, and krakens
I will not count Pablo
He is a frend
the fuck is a kraken
yes kraken. He has his own arenas but not difficult at all imo
Kraken isn’t difficult
what mission do we find a kraken in
Hardest boss is probably the fight in R4E1
