Hes cookin
#gtfo-chat
latent palm
latent palm
Hel gun does feel underwhelming
Like we all say
It takes practice
Not a 1 use and boom youre a wizard on it
blissful dome
Hel gun does feel underwhelming
:/
latent palm
Now i do listen and feel your struggle on R1B2
high orchid
yeah definitely requires more skill than hel rifle since headshots mean something with hel gun
with headshots you can 1 shot smalls, while rifle just kills every one of them
latent palm
But that doesn’t mean that any weapons youre not comfort with is bad
junior latch
trade off for bigger mag, faster reload, faster firerate, more ammo per refill
jade dirge
But that doesn’t mean that any weapons youre not comfort with is bad
i never said it was bad, i jsut said it feels underwhelming to me personally
blissful dome
Honestly idk why but guns like hcp choke and rifle always feel like a waste on smalls
jade dirge
this could change once i get better, but as it stands presently i just dont like the thing
latent palm
i never said it was bad, i jsut said it feels underwhelming to me personally
Yea thats callin it bad in your hands
blissful dome
this could change once i get better, but as it stands presently i just dont like...
Skill issue
high orchid
people can have opinions lol
latent palm
Idk what to tell you but
blissful dome
Literally
jade dirge
yes, its bad when i use it, once i get better it will hopefully be less bad when i use it
jade dirge
Skill issue
i mean yea he aint wrong
high orchid
I fucking hate the carbine, feels like I'm wasting so much ammo whenever I use it, but that doesn't mean it's bad
jade dirge
i fucking suck at this game, i admit that
blissful dome
Real
blissful dome
I mean ifo had it worse
:/
jade dirge
The pistol has a bullet cost of three, does that mean it only gets three bullets from an ammo kit or am I dumb
latent palm
It was amazing to play with em then
blissful dome
Dam
blissful dome
The pistol has a bullet cost of three, does that mean it only gets three bullets...
I-
jade dirge
fo, thats your name
blissful dome
fo, thats your name
cost
jade dirge
does higher bullet cost mean more or less bullets per ammo kit
wispy bluff
The pistol has a bullet cost of three, does that mean it only gets three bullets...
The latter, but i don't blame you - i don't care for that particular stat too.
burnt flume
bullet cost is just how stuff is done on the backend, ignore it
wispy bluff
Instead of creating of system of where they could just tell guns how many bullets they can hold they create a system of where guns basically hold water and they can simply say how much of said water ammopack refill.
blissful dome
bullet cost is just how stuff is done on the backend, ignore it
Very important stat is how player hp is calculated
wispy bluff
So every gun is a bottle of water and ammopacks simply told how much water they need to refill for that specified bottle .
latent palm
Instead of creating of system of where they could just tell guns how many bullet...
Guns now shoot out high jet powered water projectiles
burnt flume
it's technically you have 25 hp isn't it
latent palm
That have a pen 4
blissful dome
Yea
burnt flume
¯_(ツ)_/¯
blissful dome
Seems legit
wispy bluff
Devs' minds are an enigma. Why do they ever make the things they do.
latent palm
Why is it like this?
Brain rot experience
grizzled bison
auri made the image
wispy bluff
I'm sure they had a reason.
grizzled bison
we just did testing with her
jade dirge
you would think a simple 100hp for 100% hp would be simpler
blissful dome
I'm sure they had a reason.
Hopefully
jade dirge
cause then each enemy just deals that amount of damage
latent palm
you would think a simple 100hp for 100% hp would be simpler
Nuh uh
blissful dome
you would think a simple 100hp for 100% hp would be simpler
50 so you don't have to do math
junior latch
auri made the image
oh? sick!
jade dirge
for 100 its literally just however much health you have is the percent
no math, just add the %
blissful dome
0% displayed hp
jade dirge
why are all the autos shit?
you would think some of the auto's would be good for build variety
blissful dome
Mgs
wispy bluff
Hard to say
blissful dome
Hel shotty
wispy bluff
Either devs don't understand them, or...
blissful dome
you would think some of the auto's would be good for build variety
Game balanced around usage stats
Guess what people like to use
jade dirge
i mean the primary weapon auto's, like hte SMG, HSMG, AR, all that nonsense
even the auto pistols are kinda sheisse
wispy bluff
To be fair specials are not that much better
blissful dome
Har is meh
wispy bluff
Veruta used to be meta, until the likes of HEL Rifle and Scattergun came back.
blissful dome
Arbi is eh
blissful dome
Veruta used to be meta, until the likes of HEL Rifle and Scattergun came back.
It's still good
jade dirge
burst cannon is good
blissful dome
Bc is burst
jade dirge
To be fair specials are not that much better
thats because they compete with stuff like hel rifle or burst cannon, or hi cal
high orchid
Arbalist does feel nicer to use compared to veruta when dealing with smaller groups
blissful dome
thats because they compete with stuff like hel rifle or burst cannon, or hi cal
Hi Cal lmaoooo
wispy bluff
Generally semi auto / burst weapons are just more rewarding and fun to use for one reason or another
high orchid
don't the burst weapons also deal more damage than the autos?
wispy bluff
Also that
blissful dome
don't the burst weapons also deal more damage than the autos?
Yes
wispy bluff
Burst Rifle deals more damage per bullet than either Assault Rifle or even Heavy SMG.
2.7 or someshit
junior latch
2.71 to 2.19 (burst rifle to AR)
wispy bluff
So for now the main suspect is that devs just understand their own balance and don't buff things to appropriate numbers
junior latch
heavy smg does like 2.45? iirc
high orchid
yeah
jade dirge
so wait by that logic shouldnt burst people be good?
blissful dome
So for now the main suspect is that devs just understand their own balance and d...
Yea
jade dirge
since all the burst weapons are good, should burst pistol not also be good?
wispy bluff
Eh
junior latch
thats why i just corrected artek
wispy bluff
Its suffering from new gun syndrome
It was added with other 2 guns that also shat the bed
wispy bluff
So now they all sit in the shit together
high orchid
burst pistol feels like a weaker DTR
wispy bluff
That being said... Burst Pistol is not like horrible.
blissful dome
burst pistol feels like a weaker DTR
Feels like a pistol with 2 shots
wispy bluff
I actually enjoy using it a lot and it rarely fails me (it fails me when i have to fight a giant)
blissful dome
But half the damage
wispy bluff
It just needs a tiny itsy bitsy damage buff and we are golden.
jade dirge
of the auto's in the main slot, which is the most usable?
latent palm
It was added with other 2 guns that also shat the bed
Me when no good guns for artek to enjoy the game
jade dirge
id imagine the HSMG, since its got decent damage and good fire rate
wispy bluff
I used HSMG recently and it is honestly the best conventional full auto main you can find
blissful dome
Artek really likes suffering
wispy bluff
Simple, reliable, 0 recoil, hits harder than siblings.
jade dirge
so does HSMG and Hel Rifle sound decent for finally finishing r1b2?
wispy bluff
laughs
jade dirge
also, whats a good pair of guns to give a bot
wispy bluff
You can beat R1B2 with fucking short rifle, me thinks
junior latch
of the auto's in the main slot, which is the most usable?
hel shotgun if you count that
hel pp and pdw have good niche uses (due to stagger/pen and thermal)
heavy smg/smg are similar in strength to pdw but dont have a thermal
junior latch
You can beat R1B2 with fucking short rifle, me thinks
you can beat it solo without any bots with melee only...
blissful dome
r1b2 is hard alright
Lmao
jade dirge
hel shotgun if you count that
hel pp and pdw have good niche uses (due to stagg...
pdw feels too uncontrollable and short range
high orchid
r1b2 is hard alright
I would suggest trying out DMR since that level the sleeping enemies are shooters, and dmr lets you kill shooters with 1 headshot
blissful dome
You can beat R1B2 with fucking short rifle, me thinks
You can beat many levels with short rifle
jade dirge
the thremal doesnt really do all that much for me
wispy bluff
As long as you're not using bullpup or assault rifle you're pretty much in the clear
blissful dome
But you won't beat arthritis
junior latch
uncontrollable -> skill issue
short range, well yea. But thats most full autos lol
jade dirge
ive tried dmr, not a fan of dmr tbh
its like hel revolver, but with a scope that makes it shit up close
junior latch
I would suggest trying out DMR since that level the sleeping enemies are shooter...
the real reason dmr is good on that level aswell is that you get a bunch of insanely long sight lines
jade dirge
my problem is the z19 alert door, im always out of bullets once i reach it
high orchid
the real reason dmr is good on that level aswell is that you get a bunch of insa...
when I did r1b2 solo I took it since i fucking hate shooters and that is the shooter counter
turbid river
what does electrothermal means? i thought it was normal thermal vision but it doesnt quite seem to work
blissful dome
when I did r1b2 solo I took it since i fucking hate shooters and that is the sho...
Lmao
Just get shooter glitch
Ez
high orchid
nah that's cringe
jade dirge
what does electrothermal means? i thought it was normal thermal vision but it do...
for the pdw sight?
i think it just means it sees anything that puts out heat
burnt flume
what does electrothermal means? i thought it was normal thermal vision but it do...
you're looking at hel weapons aren't you? Hybrid electrothermal = rounds that pierce multiple enemies
turbid river
for the pdw sight?
the exp
burnt flume
unless I'm misremembering, but I think it was something like hybrid electrothermal lightgas
jade dirge
the EXP?
blissful dome
unless I'm misremembering, but I think it was something like hybrid electrotherm...
Yeap
turbid river
omneco exp1
jade dirge
the HEL gun?
turbid river
ye
turbid river
you're looking at hel weapons aren't you? Hybrid electrothermal = rounds that pi...
yeah
jade dirge
omneco EXP1 is hte hel gun, electrothermal refers to hte bullets not hte sights
turbid river
i thought the thermal was for the sights lmao
blissful dome
The firing mechanism
jade dirge
HEL stands for Hybrid Electrothermal Light-gas, basically just armor penetrating ammo
high orchid
I thought hel meant like gas powered weapon
blissful dome
Again
jade dirge
any weapon firing HEL rounds penetrates targets, all the main guns penetrate one target, the HEL gun penetrates 3, and hte HEL rifle penetrates 5
blissful dome
The firing mechanism
Not the ammo
Not hel rounds
Its the firing mechanism
Not the ammo
jade dirge
does it really matter? all they need to know is that HEL = target overpenetration so it hits several people per bullet
turbid river
jade dirge
mk, the HEL gun just pierces three people with each bullet stopping at the fourth person
it can hit 4 people with each shot if lined up right
burnt flume
don't teach him about faulty raycasts
jade dirge
hel rifle can hit 6 people with each shot, and the main guns can hit 2 people with each shot
the hel shotgun is a bit fucky since it deals in pellets, but each pellet just hits 2 people
the most basic rundown on how HEL weapons work
high orchid
and the sentry also hits 2 people
blissful dome
Give scatter pen 🙏
blissful dome
and the sentry also hits 2 people
Auto sentry
jade dirge
i forgot about the sentry, it overpenetrates one target too
high orchid
it is tho
blissful dome
It is?
high orchid
yeah
turbid river
it its
blissful dome
Did they change it
sharp owl
so dipshits
turbid river
hel auto sentry
jade dirge
so HEL
auto sentry: 2 targets per bullet
main slot: also 2 targets per bullet
hel rifle: 6 targets
hel gun: 4 targets
blissful dome
Helpp
jade dirge
a very quick guide to how many targets each hel wepaon can hit
turbid river
what do you guys think is the best sentry?
blissful dome
Burst
jade dirge
burst is generally the best, but sniper is good for range
blissful dome
No contest
high orchid
sniper is good, but burst is always good
turbid river
i was using the hel one and it just wastes so many bullets
jade dirge
its solely for stagger, its kinda shit
blissful dome
i was using the hel one and it just wastes so many bullets
That's why it's bad
jade dirge
use burst if using turrets
turbid river
That's why it's bad
yea
turbid river
its solely for stagger, its kinda shit
yeaaaaa
high orchid
Shotgun has good ammo eff with bio tracker now
it still is unusable with cpu speed
blissful dome
No kills nada
blissful dome
it still is unusable with cpu speed
Don't bring CPU speed :/
jade dirge
any fast firing hel weapon aside from the shotgun is solely stagger
junior latch
what do you guys think is the best sentry?
#guides-and-reviews message
cough cough
vernal nebula
It’s usable with CPU speed, just TOO usable
jade dirge
the hel revolver, hel shotgun, and the special slot hel weapons are good killers, but the HAP and the turret are stagger
turbid river
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/884816732936622110/1206701741719...
oh, forgot about that
blissful dome
It’s usable with CPU speed, just TOO usable
Reverts back to old shotty sentry
high orchid
give shotgun sentry back damage
blissful dome
8x dmg <:musicmommyWicked:1020778293923942462>
Hmmmm
jade dirge
is shot sentry even good?
blissful dome
Give shoots sentry pen
blissful dome
is shot sentry even good?
It's fine for close now
high orchid
it has it's moments but I would argue it's the worst
wispy bluff
Its quirky, but works sometimes
high orchid
nah I'd take auto over shotgun
wispy bluff
Put it near a corner sleepers are forced to walk around and it'll destroy
rare stone
nah I'd take auto over shotgun
if you want stagger just take AutoPP or Hel Shotty
junior latch
hel auto sentry has moments where its actually doing a lot of work
high orchid
I usually run autopistol
junior latch
shotgun sentry is a gamble even if placed correctly
usually if you think about shotgun sentry sniper and or burst will just be better
turbid river
im running full thermal sights now
junior latch
but theres moments where hel auto outvalues those 2
pdw and prec rifle 
oh god
please god at least have a bio in your team
turbid river
pdw and prec rifle <:d4rkevBlank:1168549982769512448>
the drekker yes
junior latch
no
the precision rifle
manufacturer names arent used aside from veruta/arbalist since those share the exact same name (machine gun)
turbid river
yeah
junior latch
they just complicate stuff
turbid river
manufacturer names arent used aside from veruta/arbalist since those share the e...
ohh
junior latch
ayo
quartz cape
guys which shelling is your favorite??
blissful dome
pdw and prec rifle <:d4rkevBlank:1168549982769512448>
Double thermal
junior latch
hes growing
quartz cape
or is it 7?
lean forge
junior latch
3 hours
quartz cape
great level
junior latch
@lean forge did ya go afk?
quartz cape
you should play it again
blissful dome
Guys which buck land do you use
junior latch
split up n all
blissful dome
I love the buck land it has such good range
high orchid
Guys which buck land do you use
sbs III
junior latch
@lean forge 3 hours is ... very very long
turbid river
Double thermal
just as god intended, biotracker is the mark of the devil
junior latch
not taking bio tracker is a fools mistake
jokes aside
you should always have a bio
if you take double thermal to not take a bio
then just take a bio and better weapons
quartz cape
markiplier said bio is for noobs
lusty river
R7D2’s speedrun 
junior latch
R7D2’s speedrun <:cfoam:723327748562616382>
thats a challenge run
lusty river
😏
junior latch
which is what i generally put down for where you might not want a bio
high orchid
now double bio is the strat
jade dirge
i like being the bio gun guy personally
turbid river
you should always have a bio
yeah, i just usually take the sentry or cfoam and the other guy takes the biotracker
jade dirge
its simple and i get to help with sneaking since i can guide people to or around sleepers, and give a heads up on feelers
turbid river
my english is not good enough to pass comms with the bio
quartz cape
are you sure you don't have a quirky name for the biotracker too?
jade dirge
are you sure you don't have a quirky name for the biotracker too?
its the bio gun, i just said my nickname for it
jade dirge
its a gun that tracks biosigs, bio gun
jade dirge
got a little radar and everything
blissful dome
Tag.
blissful dome
.
blissful dome
someone should write down all your quirky names for stuff
How many Mr do you need for a sir
quartz cape
a lot more
blissful dome
Rip
junior latch
if its anything like clicker games probably a few thousand
blissful dome
Do it
quartz cape
ok gimme a few years
blissful dome
That's a bit low of an estimation
quartz cape
and you'll regret those words
quasi pine
cunning iron
Is somebody german here?
blissful dome
Is somebody german here?
junior latch
theres german discords if you are searching for solely german people
(see that above)
blissful dome
they are all in germany
:Cc
quartz cape
no this is mexico
junior latch
youve been german all along MrMrMrMrMrMrMrMrMrMountainMan
blissful dome
Nuhuh
cunning iron
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/714592367658795019
thx man
quasi pine
quartz cape
🇸🇬
quasi pine
🇺🇸
quartz cape
wrong flag
blissful dome
🇪🇪
jade dirge
Is somebody german here?
I ain't German but I know a little
cunning iron
im searching sb that teaches me the game and stuff
north yarrow
whats a good level with a lot of sleepers near the beginning/first zone where i can teach stealth killing to someone
topaz lichen
whats a good level with a lot of sleepers near the beginning/first zone where i ...
R1D1 also has sleeping giants
north yarrow
thanks, and how about just strikers?
jade dirge
whats a good level with a lot of sleepers near the beginning/first zone where i ...
R1b2 has some in the very first room
signal plaza
thanks, and how about just strikers?
R4B3 allows you to open up 4 scouts as well without doing any alarms
jade dirge
R1b2 is early too, so there's easy sightlines
And if shit hits the fan it's only 3 enemies
crude bay
Based take PPP
fact
jade dirge
Warp, what's your opinion on the hsmg
latent palm
Warp, what's your opinion on the hsmg
Never pick it so I could not say
jade dirge
I think it's a fine gun personally
crude bay
its okay but
signal plaza
same for R4B3, used to be my go-to training level, first zone is just smalls, then open up secondary and that’s 2 free zones with 2 scouts each (first zone split, second zone big hub room with scouts) and only normals besides them
jade dirge
Decent rof, decent damage, and the accuracy ain't half bad
crude bay
there is a but
jade dirge
Plus a swift reload
quartz cape
follow the gtfo weapon flow chart
if automatic -> bad weapon
jade dirge
follow the gtfo weapon flow chart
if automatic -> bad weapon
Not directly true, hel shot
quartz cape
i stand by my point
jade dirge
Ain't you one of the people that made fun of me for hating hel shot
sharp owl
I’m becoming a dmr purist since i fixed the sight
jade dirge
I’m becoming a dmr purist since i fixed the sight
I'm not a fan of the dmr
quartz cape
I’m becoming a dmr purist since i fixed the sight
you are cheating and dmr sucks and also i dont care
sharp owl
you are cheating and dmr sucks and also i dont care
Cheating??
jade dirge
It's a fine gun but the presence of a scope kinda fucks it since everything is cqb
The irons in this game fuck tbh
vestal crystal
whats a good level with a lot of sleepers near the beginning/first zone where i ...
R1C2
jade dirge
Hel iron has good irons, Hi Cal, the magnum
Hsmg has fine irons too
The holo sights and scopes are mid though
Sawn off is the exception, sawn off holo fucks
vestal crystal
If you want even more sleepers, just go through the 1st security door and that 2nd zone is usually packed
blissful dome
Sawn off is the exception, sawn off holo fucks
Veruta holo
jade dirge
I've not used veruta, can't speak on that with chest
But the holo sights and scopes I've used, dmr pdw and dtr, were mid as fuck
I don't remember if burst cannon has irons or a holo
quartz cape
bc has holo
jade dirge
Ifo, what's your opinion on hsmg
jade dirge
bc has holo
Ok sawn off and bc are the two holos I respect
blissful dome
Ifo, what's your opinion on hsmg
Using autos is mid
jade dirge
Wide sight picture, good shot display, and overall just good
high orchid
would pdw be considered a holo?
jade dirge
Using autos is mid
Hsmg is one of the finer autos imo
high orchid
since that one is pretty nice
quartz cape
hsmg has holo as well
jade dirge
I consider pdw a holo since it's not magnifying
jade dirge
hsmg has holo as well
O thought hsmg used irons?
I'll have to double check, but I recall irons
blissful dome
would pdw be considered a holo?
It's literally a thermal
high orchid
I wOuLdN't KnOw
jade dirge
Wait I think I'm remembering bullpup irons
Is bullpup any good? A team I knew spoke well of it
quartz cape
no, and it got nerfed to be even worse for some reason
it also has a holo sight
jade dirge
Damnit what's the primary auto that has irons
I remember one of them having these really nice, concise iron sights
quartz cape
machine pistol?
rose nova
autopiss
jade dirge
machine pistol?
Honestly might have been hap
I haven't used the non hel ap
Does the carbine rifle use iron sights?
sharp owl
jade dirge
I think it was HAP then
I'll have to try hap again, I remember it being decent
What's the damage on the auto pistol?
The not hel auto pistol
quartz cape
the regular one is called machine pistol
jade dirge
Oh mb
quartz cape
does 1.9/bullet
quartz cape
hap is 1.5/bullet
jade dirge
I remember HAP being sorta slow to kill, yeah
quartz cape
striker is 20 hp
jade dirge
striker is 20 hp
How much health do spots have, if you know?
sharp owl
What is a spot
jade dirge
People complained about rock head so I shortened it to spots
hybrid cloak
what
jade dirge
Cause the rocks look like spots on their heads
sharp owl
Rock head?
quartz cape
im not gonna tell you if you keep calling them quirky fucking names that no ones knows
jade dirge
The fuckers that shoot magic orbs at you
hybrid cloak
shooters
sharp owl
30 hp
jade dirge
God damn
sharp owl
Their head has a 5x multi tho so always aim there
jade dirge
You'd think the ranged unit would have less health
hybrid cloak
one would think
jade dirge
I wonder, how good is HAP's accuracy
quartz cape
falloff starts at 5m
jade dirge
Their head has a 5x multi tho so always aim there
Makes sense, they got rocks in their heads after all
Gotta hurt when a bullet hits those
sharp owl
vestal crystal
Go drop down with a sentry, put it down on the ground and walk away from it
It should tell you how far away you are in meters
jade dirge
Oh 5 yards isn't bad for a basic smg
Especially with heavier ap slugs
What's the range on that machine pistol?
jade dirge
Huh
quartz cape
"ends" at 35 m
jade dirge
Which do you recommend, HAP or MP
high orchid
I'd say autopistol personally
wicked solstice
hell piss
high orchid
it isnt the best auto for only kills but the stagger on the autopistol is wild
jade dirge
HEL autopistol with a HEL rifle
quartz cape
before the autopistol buff, i would've said mp, but I think that in general autopistol is better rn
jade dirge
it isnt the best auto for only kills but the stagger on the autopistol is wild
Only issue I can see is that I really don't like stagger
I want an auto with some real ass behind it, to put down what I'm aiming at
jade dirge
What's the range on the HSMG
quartz cape
What's the range on the HSMG
jade dirge
Danke
high orchid
Only issue I can see is that I really don't like stagger
thing abt the stagger is that it can prevent a fuck ton of enemies from attacking keeping your team healthier
jade dirge
Yeah but just killing them is a permenant stagger
quartz cape
finally someone who gets it
jade dirge
Hsmg seems like the best smg
quartz cape
if you count carbine, carbine is the best
but other than that, hsmg is probably the best?
jade dirge
Bullpup has some damage behind it
quartz cape
i dont use smgs enough to make a difinitive statement
quartz cape
Bullpup has some damage behind it
but no ammo
quartz cape
1 bullet is 2.38
full burst is 2.38 * 4 = 9.52
high orchid
danage per burst
quartz cape
same for pellets
high orchid
also wtf is the order of guns on that
jade dirge
Thanks for this spreadsheet btw
quartz cape
also wtf is the order of guns on that
idk i made it a long time ago
high orchid
literally had an aneurysm tryna read it
quartz cape
Thanks for this spreadsheet btw
np, there are also other spreadsheets you might see around that have other info and stuff
jade dirge
It's greatly helpful, can you dm it so I can pin it?
Holy shit the dekker rifle looks great
high orchid
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit?usp=sharing this is the spreadsheet I've been using for years
isnt updated for r8 which sucks a bit but still is useful
quartz cape
Holy shit the dekker rifle looks great
rifle is pretty good, but most importantly of all, don't become a spreadsheet guy who bases all his opinions off of numbers, as they can never tell the full story
always play around with the guns first
jade dirge
Fair, im just using this to figure what I should test next
high orchid
just test out guns dont worry much about stats
quartz cape
precisely the proper use case
jade dirge
Don't want to randomly pick and test horseshit like burst piss
quartz cape
but knowing the numbers on how much of some gun to kill some enemy can be very useful
high orchid
that is true
jade dirge
Especially since I test in a 4man environment, don't want to be a hindrance
Slug shot is looking sorta spicy holy shit
high orchid
sawed off just is better than slug, except at range
quartz cape
keep in mind that the cycle time on slug is very long
sharp owl
You arent going to be a hindrance by picking bad guns, you’ll be a hindrance by not shooting well
jade dirge
That would be perfect
quartz cape
you can get around it by switching to special, so running slug + pump is a funny loadout but not very ammo efficient
high orchid
sawed off revolver is a perfect match of a loadout
jade dirge
Nope, sawn off hel rifle
Hel rifle is just a better hi cal, and hi cal is a side grade to revolver
high orchid
revolver gets the ones at range, sawed off has bigs and close range
burnt flume
when I took shotgun + revolver I always preferred hel shotgun but then again, it's only been in solo speedruns
jade dirge
That and bringing 2 pistols is just wierd
quartz cape
you have the right idea, dont use revolver
jade dirge
You can't do that, 2 pistols is sin
quartz cape
2 pistols is fine, not helping with anything bigger than a striker is just rude
jade dirge
you have the right idea, dont use revolver
Hel rifle is good for range and picking off big guys, sawn is for close enemies and oh shit
blissful dome
when I took shotgun + revolver I always preferred hel shotgun but then again, it...
Tbf hel will just be better for solo right?
Stagger and all
high orchid
yeah
burnt flume
yea I think so
jade dirge
2 pistols is fine, not helping with anything bigger than a striker is just rude
I'll help with all targets
high orchid
sawed off revo is more of a full squad loadout
burnt flume
with giants you just spam revo into them at range, if a small gets close you have hel shotgun to stagger them and reload revo
or just mag dump the giant with hel shot after killing all smalls with revo
rare stone
with giants you just spam revo into them at range, if a small gets close you hav...
"b-b-b-but Revolver is terrible against giants! 🤓"
burnt flume
no, you're terrible against giants :)
rare stone
-some guy
quartz cape
it is
high orchid
sawed off needs 1 clip to kill a big and revo has a fast reload and can get kills at range
rare stone
no, you're terrible against giants :)
thatswhatimsayin
burnt flume
I mean it's like what, 120/14 so 8.5 revolver shots to kill a big
rare stone
I think special Revolver is slept on
burnt flume
not the worst by any means I guess
high orchid
issue with sawed off hel rifle is the reload on rifle and small clip of sawed off
jade dirge
I think special Revolver is slept on
I like special revolver, but 2 pistols is just wierd
high orchid
I have done it, but it wasn't a favorite combo of mine
blissful dome
It's nice
jade dirge
2 pistols isn't something I'll do
blissful dome
Hel shotty combat shotty
burnt flume
only problem is that hel gun exists and hel gun is hel gun
rare stone
don't diss double revolver loadout
fun loadout
blissful dome
Sawed off scatter
high orchid
autopistol/combat is real fun
blissful dome
Arhar
high orchid
you become both the auto and shotgun sentry
jade dirge
Hsmg hel rifle then
rare stone
autopistol/combat is real fun
the stagger loadout
jade dirge
Well, I'll run autopistol
high orchid
combat shotgun is pretty good at killing smalls if u hit headshots
blissful dome
Like hel shotty can
high orchid
but can it 1 shot headshot easily?
burnt flume
hel shotgun only one shots on client if you hit very good
combat shotgun better for 1hko on smalls
blissful dome
hel shotgun only one shots on client if you hit very good
It's possible on host
If you hit the body too
rare stone
on the back maybe
wraith marsh
it is not possible on host
burnt flume
mfw misinformation
sharp owl
not a real gtfo player if u dont spread misinformation
quartz cape
i must be the realest one there is
sharp owl
fake long gun
jade dirge
It's basically a better hsmg
high orchid
long reload
jade dirge
2.3 seconds for 40 rounds isn't bad
wispy bluff
It is
high orchid
yes it is
hybrid cloak
2.3 on paper doesn't sound like much
sharp owl
2.3 seconds is incredibly long
jade dirge
2.3 seconds for 8 rounds is tho, looking at you hel revolver
rose nova
it kinda is
sharp owl
2.3 seconds for 8 rounds is tho, looking at you hel revolver
reload cancel
burnt flume
hahahahaha
high orchid
hel revolver has a fast cancel
burnt flume
yeah reload cancel man
rose nova
2.3 seconds for 8 rounds is tho, looking at you hel revolver
u can cancel reload hel revos reload to make it like .7 seconds
burnt flume
it makes guns good
jade dirge
reload cancel
This means nothing because I don't understand it
wispy bluff
The problem is that those 40 bullets are not that great
high orchid
even hel rifle is a long reload and has gotten me killed
wispy bluff
If they were like... Actually real strong bullets - sure. But they are not.
In fact it deals tiny itsy bit less damage than Assault Rifle.
sharp owl
artek i thought u were a bullpup defender
high orchid
This means nothing because I don't understand it
some guns get the clip reloaded before the animation finishes
jade dirge
Hsmg then
sharp owl
hes seen the light
jade dirge
Hsmg is 33 rounds, good accuracy rof and range, and decent reload
2.45 damage ain't nothing to scoff at either
Also, why do people adore the pdw so much? It's like, directly worse than the hsmg
wispy bluff
Thermal
high orchid
thermal and mad uptime
wispy bluff
And its not that bad
high orchid
reloads so fast
wispy bluff
It reloads silly quick too
jade dirge
The thermal isn't that impactful, unless it can spot shades
high orchid
and faster reload cancel
jade dirge
Can therms spot shades?
wispy bluff
Yes.
jade dirge
Oh shit
wispy bluff
Its their direct natural counter.
jade dirge
Ok I see the point now
burnt flume
the number one reason people take thermals is because they suck and can't see shadows
sharp owl
thermal can also see through light fog which is useful in some missions
wispy bluff
Also works on levels with 0 lights too. There's a couple.
quartz cape
you should still just use your eyes tho
burnt flume
should've gone to specsavers
jade dirge
you should still just use your eyes tho
My eyes can't see shades
burnt flume
I think the most permissible use for thermal is having an experienced player take one so they can easily see everything across a room for stealth reasons
small berry
thermal can also see through light fog which is useful in some missions
Pdw my beloved
high orchid
perc also is a counter to || shadow scouts ||
quartz cape
My eyes can't see shades
look harder
burnt flume
also if you pick thermal scope while holding biotracker i will point and laugh at you
sharp owl
i hate pdw tbh
jade dirge
look harder
I literally cant
jade dirge
also if you pick thermal scope while holding biotracker i will point and laugh a...
I use the bio gun cause I'm hard of hearing alright?
wraith marsh
autos suck anyways, shouldve just buffed the rest to match
small berry
i hate pdw tbh
I just love it for hip-holding in r8c1
jade dirge
What all guns can have thermals?
sharp owl
pdw and pr
high orchid
only pdw and percision rifle
jade dirge
Just 2 guns?
high orchid
yup
jade dirge
And one of them is a special ain't it?
high orchid
correct
jade dirge
That sucks
sharp owl
thank god only 2 guns have thermals
burnt flume
jesus christ thermal scopes are niche
jade dirge
I wonder, what mods are allowed in pubs?
burnt flume
it's like tiktok, 90% of people shouldn't be on there
jade dirge
Is the one that let's you customize guns allowed?
upbeat sail
I wonder, what mods are allowed in pubs?
content mods outright wont work
thick temple
should've gone to specsavers
did you ever make a trip to the optometrist after soloing r4e1
burnt flume
thermal scopes can ruin new players through overuse
high orchid
they are, and the perc has the worse one
small berry
jesus christ thermal scopes are niche
Helpful though
jade dirge
content mods outright wont work
Alright that idea don't work
sharp owl
if i had to use thermals on my fav guns i would lose it
burnt flume
did you ever make a trip to the optometrist after soloing r4e1
I mean my solo r4e1 was doorbug and half of the solos had bio so eh
thermals suck
jade dirge
I'm gonna try the pdw again, but last time the low range left a bad taste in my mouth
small berry
I just use em on particularly foggy levels
And anyway i like pdw alot
upbeat sail
I'm gonna try the pdw again, but last time the low range left a bad taste in my ...
the range on it is fine just the recoil bounces it around a lot
high orchid
if my favorite had thermals it would just make it better since now you can easily line up shadows
sharp owl
how much dmg did r7 pdw do
thick temple
I mean my solo r4e1 was doorbug and half of the solos had bio so eh
i know, i just remember you having a close call with some shadow giants and saying you needed to go there cause of bad eyesight or smth
burnt flume
Is the one that let's you customize guns allowed?
you've played the game for 3 hours and you're already trying to cheat
jade dirge
The recoil isn't so bad, its jut the 5 yard drop-off kills me
upbeat sail
The recoil isn't so bad, its jut the 5 yard drop-off kills me
can you actually tell in game
because I cant
small berry
the range on it is fine just the recoil bounces it around a lot
Just pick a nice steady special for giant killing
jade dirge
someday you will learn that all automatic weapons are bad
Fine I'll use the fucking pistol
jade dirge
can you actually tell in game
I absolutely can tell
sharp owl
literally just use whatever u find fun and dont listen to anyone else
jade dirge
Past 5 yards it hits like pixie dust
upbeat sail
Just pick a nice steady special for giant killing
oh I used it with machinegun lol
small berry
literally just use whatever u find fun and dont listen to anyone else
I never anyway :3
sharp siren
Use cheats
hybrid cloak
Yeah stop nerding about every lil thing
sharp siren
Do drugs
jade dirge
No
quartz cape
Fine I'll use the fucking pistol
you have won
burnt flume
I can advise you on drugs
high orchid
fr dont worry about specific numbers or what gun is good or not, just get good at killing
jade dirge
Not the hel pistol, the normal pistol
burnt flume
cheating bad though
upbeat sail
Past 5 yards it hits like pixie dust
your missing with it then
small berry
oh I used it with machinegun lol
I used burst cannon for my winning r8c1 recently
It was really bad until the giants came then it shredded them all
upbeat sail
it still damages fine unless your trying to hit something on the far end of a bridge
jade dirge
fr dont worry about specific numbers or what gun is good or not, just get good a...
I just want a reliable semi/full auto main gun
quartz cape
there isnt one
upbeat sail
I just want a reliable semi/full auto main gun
any of the autos are
anyone claiming otherwise is just shit with them
quartz cape
dont listen to the mutes
burnt flume
the auto weapons are like, objectively less powerful than semis
quartz cape
their opinoins are invalid
burnt flume
it's the thing of yeah you can make any gun work
high orchid
hsmg and autopistol are the strongest auto weapons rn
burnt flume
but workable =/= good
small berry
I just want a reliable semi/full auto main gun
Bullpup rifles are nice to get used to aiming if thats ur problem
jade dirge
I'm gonna return to bullpup
burnt flume
dear god you're all hopeless
jade dirge
Bullpup rifles are nice to get used to aiming if thats ur problem
I like bullpup, the long reload doesn't bother me
hybrid cloak
For now...
upbeat sail
bullpup is the only one I outright dont like but it works fine if your further back
jade dirge
Cause it actually has a high mag cap, decent damage and range
wispy bluff
If only specials had an option that relaod at 0.5 second so that i had a back up plan for when my BP runs out of ammo
jade dirge
If only specials had an option that relaod at 0.5 second so that i had a back up...
Hi cal
high orchid
revo
burnt flume
If only specials had an option that relaod at 0.5 second so that i had a back up...
revolver :)
small berry
I like bullpup, the long reload doesn't bother me
I started using pdw and i genuinely find it good in a squad as it helps with fog stealth kills plus spraying if i have to
burnt flume
anyway I'm closing discord because I hate you all, goodbye.
quartz cape
anyway I'm closing discord because I hate you all, goodbye.
i feel this
jade dirge
I started using pdw and i genuinely find it good in a squad as it helps with fog...
I can't use the pdw, too damn short
upbeat sail
I can't use the pdw, too damn short
im still confused what your doing with it
jade dirge
I'm glad you like it though
jade dirge
im still confused what your doing with it
Shooting people
quartz cape
you gotta help pe pachi
small berry
I can't use the pdw, too damn short
I normally compensate with special
Sniper if i am in scout hell
quartz cape
i cant do this on my own
burnt flume
brother I have to fight this uni assignment that's due wednesday and revision for the test I don't think I have the strength to babysit gtfo "players" alongside it
jade dirge
I normally compensate with special
Sniper if i am in scout hell
I'm gonna run bullpup hel rifle
high orchid
I normally compensate with special
Sniper if i am in scout hell
if u want scouts dead there are other options, sniper isnt in a good place right now. Hel rifle and perc are decent when it comes to range
jade dirge
brother I have to fight this uni assignment that's due wednesday and revision fo...
Then leave like you said you planned on and stop making fun of oeople
burnt flume
i cant do this on my own
if we leave it long enough they'll natural selection themselves out of this place, trust
small berry
I'm gonna run bullpup hel rifle
Ooh hel rifle is nice
Running a shotgun or long range works with it
Burst cannon is ok too
high orchid
you can make it work but it's just sad rn
quartz cape
if we leave it long enough they'll natural selection themselves out of this plac...
ok thats fair but also not all of them will
and the ones that stay are the worst
upbeat sail
brother I have to fight this uni assignment that's due wednesday and revision fo...
bro close discord before we distract you for another 3 hours
jade dirge
Ooh hel rifle is nice
Running a shotgun or long range works with it
Burst cannon...
Hel rifle is a special, but I like it with a simple, reliable auto gun
small berry
if u want scouts dead there are other options, sniper isnt in a good place right...
Oh normally for scouts i use m1 anyway
But thanks i just like the high dmg against giants aswell
jade dirge
Bullpup is the most reliable auto I've found yet
sharp owl
man
small berry
Bullpup is the most reliable auto I've found yet
Agreed i love it
sharp owl
i need to close discord
quartz cape
Bullpup is the most reliable auto I've found yet
bro keep looking
upbeat sail
Bullpup is the most reliable auto I've found yet
your missing with the others then
upbeat sail
because bullpups whole thing is it doesnt bounce around
jade dirge
Every other auto has some major downside I can't look past
sharp owl
I now understand what you have said to me yesterday
LMAO
upbeat sail
but if it works run with it
sharp owl
yeah lol
small berry
I ran bullpup until i could handle pdw recoil tbh
hybrid cloak
Autos have no recoil...
jade dirge
Pdw is short, hap is short, hsmg is actually p good, smg not good
upbeat sail
Autos have no recoil...
pdw has recoil
rose nova
pdw aiming down sights goes like an animal
HAR has recoil, controllable but bounces in full auto too
vestal crystal
i cant do this on my own
This is the first time I've blocked someone here lol
hybrid cloak
What kind of recoil yall getting
rose nova
precision rifle has some recoil
hybrid cloak
But that's barely any recoil
small berry
pdw aiming down sights goes like an animal
Its nice on hordes but bad on giants or singles
wispy bluff
What kind of recoil yall getting
The one that causes the gun go side-to-side slightly as well as makes the actual model of the gun jump in your face confusing you if bullets still go where you're aiming
quartz cape
This is the first time I've blocked someone here lol
in the end, you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become frostty
rose nova
Its nice on hordes but bad on giants or singles
its good in singles, a single mag should take 3 4 enemies
vestal crystal
OMG why aren't my sentries killing anything....
rose nova
which for the reloads very nice
hybrid cloak
Horizontal recoil isn't hard either
upbeat sail
does the game even have horizontal recoil
quartz cape
Where do i go??
sharp owl
Where do i go??
den of wolves
vestal crystal
Veruta has a bit of side to side wobble
quartz cape
i think a2 is broken
hybrid cloak
does the game even have horizontal recoil
Some on veruta and arbalist but that's almost none too
small berry
its good in singles, a single mag should take 3 4 enemies
I just hate the precision recoil i just learned how to hit with sledge
burnt flume
high recoil burst cannon had some side sway too iirc
rose nova
I just hate the precision recoil i just learned how to hit with sledge
the precision recoil? u mean the precision rifle or pdw?
cause with pdw u dont need headshots
small berry
the precision recoil? u mean the precision rifle or pdw?
Pdw aiming down sights at singles wastes a ton of ammo bc it goes everywhere
upbeat sail
they still help but its more of a, "aim at the chest and let it bounce into the head" thing
rose nova
Pdw aiming down sights at singles wastes a ton of ammo bc it goes everywhere
u can always hipfire it, its almost 10/10 on there
upbeat sail
Pdw aiming down sights at singles wastes a ton of ammo bc it goes everywhere
you know you can let go of the fire button to let it drop back down right
small berry
u can always hipfire it, its almost 10/10 on there
That is true and i should prob do that
But sledgehammer go bonk
small berry
you know you can let go of the fire button to let it drop back down right
Also should do that yeah
rose nova
That is true and i should prob do that
But sledgehammer go bonk
trues
i mean they for different things kmsdkm
small berry
trues
i mean they for different things kmsdkm
I stealth alot so i can normally avoid singles
hybrid cloak
Pdw aiming down sights at singles wastes a ton of ammo bc it goes everywhere
It doesn't tho
upbeat sail
Also should do that yeah
like aim at the torso area and let go once it rises into head
rose nova
I stealth alot so i can normally avoid singles
yeah but on alarms and specially with one type of enemies its real goods
small berry
like aim at the torso area and let go once it rises into head
Im really not master at aiming so ill give it a try
hybrid cloak
Do you just hold left click and not compensate?
small berry
yeah but on alarms and specially with one type of enemies its real goods
So real i love it
8 hours of r8c1 made me love pdw
small berry
Do you just hold left click and not compensate?
I would never :3
upbeat sail
Im really not master at aiming so ill give it a try
just keep doing it until you get a hang of it
hybrid cloak
I would never :3
Hmmm
small berry
just keep doing it until you get a hang of it
Yeah thanks im gonna do r8 d and e soon so i need all the help i can get
junior latch
brother I have to fight this uni assignment that's due wednesday and revision fo...
ya got this! (not the babysitting gtfo "players" part
rose nova
u got this ! [the babysitting part for balance]
unreal crystal
bro keep looking
Can you keep it down im trying to sleep
quartz cape
blocked
unreal crystal
banned
autumn oak
there isnt one
Carbine, DMR, Burst Rifle, need I go on?
autumn oak
no every gun is bad
Mountain whats your main loadout?
lost lynx
Mountain whats your main loadout?
he runs slug shotgun + short rifle
rustic hinge
Carbine/choke supremacy
autumn oak
he runs slug shotgun + short rifle
Fr?
quartz cape
Mountain whats your main loadout?
hammer
burnt flume
Mutual Insurance
blissful bison
Is clear all r6 levels achievement bugged? Just clear all lvls but don't get the ach🤔
quartz cape
@unreal crystal
grizzled bison
OI
burnt flume
using a bot in the player slots should still count for the achievements
unreal crystal
I didn’t think butcher would play gtfo
grizzled bison
ue i cant get ma gtfo achievements
quartz cape
clearly you are wrong
unreal crystal
omelanda fucked my wife and took my achievements ue
grizzled bison
burst cannon
unreal crystal
Burst cancel
unreal crystal
you are LITERALLY called BillyButcher
you have the profile picture and everything
Also get good duo easy LOL LOL LOL
grizzled bison
oi
quartz cape
res
grizzled bison
ue omelanda called me cringe
vestal crystal
omelanda fucked my wife and took my achievements ue
Pub
unreal crystal
puma pants
vestal crystal
Go off King Billy
trim sail
Is anyone having an issue trying to get pass the loading screen ? Network Error notification keeps pop up
trim sail
oh yeah, restarting the pc fixed the problem
lofty grotto
Mutual Insurance
Don’t forget the Pmom one
rare stone
apparently you can't get the Rapid Response achievement from a P-mom
'cuz we killed a Pmom without it birthing and nobody got that one lol
lofty grotto
'cuz we killed a Pmom without it birthing and nobody got that one lol
Weird. We got it during E2
vestal crystal
There are regular moms you could have killed there as well
rare stone
Weird. We got it during E2
probably from a normal mom
lofty grotto
probably from a normal mom
No. It was a Pmom as it stated
It showed up after we killed it
We did kill a bunch of Mothers during that E2 as well but that achievement only shows up upon Pmom death
Was everyone shooting it or meleeing it?
Cuz we all shot at it.
I think it got staggered super hard as I was used Hel Autopistol, and someone else had scattergun
boreal yew
Achievement don't showup mid-game, right
lofty grotto
They do
thick temple
none that i'm aware of popo up mid game, only on returning to lobby
rare stone
don't they only show up after you return to the menu?
thick temple
i think there are some, but at least most of them don't
lofty grotto
We got the tank one mid game
thick temple
the tank one is one that i'm fairly certain doesn't either lol
cause i forgot we did it until we went back to the lobby and got it
vestal crystal
They also don't show up mid game for me
lofty grotto
Weird
boreal yew
Not certain but I think both mother's achivements it popped up after an expedition is done
At least for my case, it's been a while but at least that's what I remember
thick temple
i'm pretty sure almost if not all of the achievement stuff is done when you return yeah
even stuff like having completed all levels in a rundown
fleet jungle
should i get gtfo.... im not good but its on sale and i want it LMAO
loud light
Every ach I got only shows up after you return to lobby after successfully clearing a level, but the steam timestamp shows the exact minute it was achieved. I guess just a way for the devs to build more suspense? Idk
thick temple
if you want it and are willing to commit to it, go for it
fleet jungle
if you want it and are willing to commit to it, go for it
wooahh i can get out of my roblox baby phase? hell yeah
thick temple
but know that it's hard af
walls will be encountered
thick temple
yeah then imo if you're well aware of what you're getting into then you should go for it
sharp owl
pp
sharp owl
I despise reactors 🥰
vernal nebula
Fish react this user
high orchid
gen cluster 🤮
sharp owl
fetch quest 👎👎👎
vernal nebula
Collect doodads, gizmos, and whozeewhatzits 
mellow hedge
what the goober
mellow hedge
YEESSSS
lofty grotto
finally off work
grizzled bison
where do you work
lofty grotto
in CA
vestal crystal
Canadia...
sharp owl
shouldnt it be canada and canadans or candia and canadians
vestal crystal
Take your anti-schizo meds
jade dirge
man im aggravated
sharp owl
Take your anti-schizo meds
only once logs are fixed
jade dirge
hey schizo, whats your favorite main gun
vestal crystal
Yeah schizo
jade dirge
im a bullpup guy personally
sharp owl
hey schizo, whats your favorite main gun
dmr, pistol and heavy smg
sharp owl
jade dirge
dmr is kinda ass
sharp owl
me when i cant aim
jade dirge
its a cqb game, and that is a main weapon with a forced scope
pallid anvil
it's not forced
vestal crystal
Was it not literally like 3 days ago you said hel revolver was shit ,then changed your mind, then like yesterday you said hel shotgun was bad, then changed your mind
...
jade dirge
would like to know what you smoke so I can get on it too
adhd and poor hearing
pallid anvil
you can quick scope with it
jade dirge
Was it not literally like 3 days ago you said hel revolver was shit ,then change...
yeah but ive used dmr, like 4 times
usually by time 3 i see the point, i have not seen the point
burnt flume
Brother has not watched tnenpi or the r8a1 solo speedrun pbs by me or hani
You just scope in anyway
sharp owl
i havent used it much therefore its bad
jade dirge
who is tnenpi
vestal crystal
A soloer
burnt flume
High zoom doesn't matter as much as you think it does + you lack fundamental understanding
vestal crystal
Hinoki also a dmr user
pallid anvil
Ermm
sharp owl
pachi is on a mission to save gtfo chat from quantum collapse
burnt flume
I went away, I relaxed, I played gtfo, now I'm getting a drink before bed
And while I do that I am here
jade dirge
drink faster
burnt flume
Maybe in addition to the water I'll dig out the whiskey, Lord knows I need it after this
jade dirge
embed fail, fool
burnt flume
Ryk remove the ?si string
rocky gust
is it normal to struggle with the second mission
jade dirge
r1b2 is the third map, chronologically it happens before r1c1