gtfo-chat

[nimble pumice]

three barrels, four rounds

[jade dirge]

why does the double barrel shotgun hold 4 shots

[blissful dome]

2 barrels

[jade dirge]

how does three barrels go to four rounds? wtf?

[blissful dome]

2 rounds per barrel

[blissful dome]

oh its just funny

for the sawed off

lmao

oh yea

[upbeat sail]

devs thought it was underpowered and buffed it last update

[blissful dome]

hel revo

6 chambers

8 shots

[nimble pumice]

great question

[upbeat sail]

and didnt update the model

so we get the phantom round now

[jade dirge]

double barrel shotgun in my long gun slot, the hel big iron for my sidearm

hard hitting, simple weapons that hit hard enough to kill anything i point them at

[lost lynx]

this is a game about interdimensional virus and travel
nothing makes sense

[nimble pumice]

you can do revolver in secondary and sawnoff in primary

[blissful dome]

theres only one double barrel

[upbeat sail]

or

[blissful dome]

its the choke mod

the hel revo is a snub revolver

[upbeat sail]

revolver in primary, revolver in secondary

[jade dirge]

then ill be running choke

[blissful dome]

ar har

[lost lynx]

slug shotgun + sniper

best combo

[blissful dome]

short rifle rifle

[blissful dome]

pistol hcp

[blissful dome]

hel shoty combat

[upbeat sail]

do not use short rifle its carefully crafted by the devs to give you a strain injury

[nimble pumice]

what, is it an over/under?

[jade dirge]

should i use the hel revolver or the big revolver

[blissful dome]

no

[nimble pumice]

the second tube under the barrel just seems to be a feed tube

[blissful dome]

2 barrels side by side

[indigo jolt]

hel revo, but I'm biased

[blissful dome]

iirc

[indigo jolt]

I like all rounder weapons

[upbeat sail]

they are in different slots so you can use both

if you really like revolvers for some reason

[jade dirge]

you only use one revolver, you use a different gun in the other slot

[blissful dome]

its not a bad loadout

unlike ar har or rifle srifle

[upbeat sail]

its fine I just personally dont like running it

[blissful dome]

hel combat is fine

pistol hcp is

questionable

but it works

uhhhh

mp mg?

[upbeat sail]

pistol in general feels questionable to me

[blissful dome]

burst rifle bc?

[blissful dome]

its not bad

its like

meh

[indigo jolt]

Take burst pistol to make it feel even more questionable

[jade dirge]

What's the scattergun, a mag fed shotgun?,

[upbeat sail]

its in the same tier as assault rifle where its fine but not great in any way

[blissful dome]

dmr sniper

🙏

[indigo jolt]

scattergun is the boss deleter

[blissful dome]

pdw pres

[upbeat sail]

imagine a 40mm grenade launcher shotgun

[hybrid cloak]

It's the boom stick

[blissful dome]

sawed off scatter

fuck that works

shit

[jade dirge]

Oh, it's a single shot sting round grenade launcher?

[blissful dome]

think

2 gauge shotgun

[upbeat sail]

no just imagine a 40mm shotgun shell

and give it 2 rounds

with a clip modeled around 3 but we dont talk about that

[hybrid cloak]

Full bore you mean

[jade dirge]

It's a double barrel, 2 gage shotgun

Sounds American as fuck

[upbeat sail]

I dont know shotgun round terminology only explosives

[upbeat sail]

single barrel

mag fed

[jade dirge]

Single barrel, but has a mag that holds a single additional bullet?

[indigo jolt]

Fun fact gtfo takes place in the americas

[nimble pumice]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Drekker_INEX_Drei_Scattergun

[blissful dome]

it holds as many shots as the sniper

[upbeat sail]

they designed it around 3 then nerfed it to 2 before release

[blissful dome]

its so sad

[blissful dome]

shoulda given it 16 shots

for balance

[upbeat sail]

for good reason, the thing is stupid

[blissful dome]

8 mothers

seems good

[upbeat sail]

it already has 15

[blissful dome]

16 per mag

dumdum

[jade dirge]

what shotgun is good for absolutely shredding enemies

[blissful dome]

hel

combat

[upbeat sail]

ive played a mod that gave it 300 per mag once

[blissful dome]

pump

everything else is a bit low on mag size for shredding

and slug sucks

so

[upbeat sail]

combat shotgun / hel shotgun

[blissful dome]

combat only has 4 shots

[jade dirge]

so use the HEL shotgun as a long gun, and the magnum revolver as my handgun?

[blissful dome]

sawed has too less range

and 4 shots

oh yea yk

[nimble pumice]

yeh

[blissful dome]

sawed off has more ammo than choke

[upbeat sail]

it has 12

[blissful dome]

💀

[blissful dome]

choke

i can type

[tacit cipher]

my game lags/crashes/straight up crashes the computer itself every now and then when the scene where you're sent into the thing plays. is this something i can fix or does my pc just suck

[jade dirge]

why do half the weapons have HEL in the name

[blissful dome]

try reinstalling gtfo

if that doesnt work

probably yea

[jade dirge]

like, its a normal weapon but its special because its HEL brand?

[blissful dome]

penetrating rounds

[thick temple]

HEL isn't the brand

[upbeat sail]

if its crashing your pc something is seriously wrong with your computer

[thick temple]

it's the type of round

[jade dirge]

ohoho, now ye be talking

[thick temple]

it's like, hybrid elctrothermic light-gas or something

[blissful dome]

it stands for hybrid electr- just kidding it stands for fuck you and everyone standing behind you

[jade dirge]

is there a HEL brand hammer?

[nimble pumice]

electrothermal tomfoolery

[upbeat sail]

though put a bug report just in case, im sure hearing that will get the devs attention

[thick temple]

no, because HEL isn't a brand :p

[jade dirge]

penetrating power at the end of a rod, slam straight through enemies

[tacit cipher]

damn

[blissful dome]

how would that work

and no

not a brand

[jade dirge]

a hammer that hits several enemies in a swing

[blissful dome]

:/

hammer can do that

[indigo jolt]

HEL Spear

[thick temple]

Bataldo and Omneco are the two main HEL brands i think
and raptus?

[blissful dome]

just takes positioning

so can every melee actually

[jade dirge]

ooooh, hammer has innate sweeping?

[blissful dome]

its just hard

[indigo jolt]

Spear is the easiest to pen with

[blissful dome]

hitscan checks for 1 enemy and animation can hit multiple

so you can kill multiple

[jade dirge]

so the hybrid electric light-gas shotgun and the bigger iron, with a hammer

well, hammer or bat, which would be better for being a frontliner

[blissful dome]

also the hel shotty helpp and hel revo are defo not hybrid electric light-gas lmao

the helpp is literally just tungsten rounds

[jade dirge]

fine, the HEL shotgun and the bigger iron

[upbeat sail]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-gas_gun this is what the hel guns are

[blissful dome]

why are they called hel

[jade dirge]

oh its just tungsten buck

[blissful dome]

its so bad

[blissful dome]

all the helpp has is tungsten rounds

and the hel sentry

tbf its not called the hel sentry

but

[jade dirge]

whats a good gadget to bring if your new and a frontline fighter

[blissful dome]

its the same thing

[blissful dome]

any of them

[upbeat sail]

probably because it didnt pierce until this update

[blissful dome]

new then maybe not bio

[blissful dome]

it had the code for it

[jade dirge]

i have never played GTFO and the closest game to it ive played is like, drg or l4d2

[blissful dome]

l4d2 ew

[upbeat sail]

and then whoever named it saw it wasnt peircing and didnt add the hel name on

[blissful dome]

drg is similar or so i hear

[blissful dome]

but hel isnt just piercing so-

[upbeat sail]

or at least thats how I imagine the internals of 10 chambers works

[jade dirge]

in drg i main driller because the flammenwerfer werfs flammens

[blissful dome]

why is the hel shotty and helpp and hel revo

i

this hurts me

[hybrid cloak]

Helpp

[blissful dome]

just play enlisted

you get flame

[nimble pumice]

drg is similar cause its 4 players or something

[jade dirge]

i play enlisted

[blissful dome]

you get to hear them scream as you fwoosh

[hybrid cloak]

Dig me trenches

[blissful dome]

:D

[jade dirge]

its very entertaining, moartars too

[upbeat sail]

doesnt that have world of tanks style monetization

[blissful dome]

nuhuh

i aint grofting today

[blissful dome]

uh

its not as bad rn

we will see

[jade dirge]

mortars and planes are my favorite units to play in enlisted

[blissful dome]

paras are not a step in the right direction

hopefully they add it to tech tree

they added apcs so

we will see

[upbeat sail]

I mean if it has it period im not touching it since it will only get worse over time lol

[hybrid cloak]

Enlisted is everything you'd want

[blissful dome]

?

you mean if it has monitization?

like

eh

[jade dirge]

whats the difference between special and main weapons

[upbeat sail]

slot

[blissful dome]

the type of weapon

the damage

wlel

[jade dirge]

how is the revolver different from the hel revolver

[blissful dome]

now that the sawed off

[jade dirge]

is it just way bigger and more damaging?

[blissful dome]

stats

also regular revo is pretty mid rn

hel revo is good

like

really good

[hybrid cloak]

Main is for general use
Special is specialized for certain situations

[blissful dome]

like only hel shotty compares

[upbeat sail]

its the assault rifle of specials

[blissful dome]

and carbine cause its so simple

but

[jade dirge]

yeah but its for the aesthetic

[blissful dome]

bring a gun

shoot yourself

[upbeat sail]

the heavy assault rifle is not because its ammo pickup is depressing

[blissful dome]

its not that bad

comon

look at the arbalist

[jade dirge]

so what should i bring a HEL revolver and some other shotgun in the special wepaon slot?

[upbeat sail]

arbalist is fine I just dont like it

[jade dirge]

maybe snag a scattergun for nuking big targets?

[upbeat sail]

if you bring scatter bring a main that reloads fast

[blissful dome]

arbalist reload cancel got removed

its no longer good

[upbeat sail]

I dont reload cancel on principle

[blissful dome]

you also havent played r8

so

[rose nova]

even if u dont reload cancel the reloads off by a couple miliseconds

[jade dirge]

i have to bring a revolver and a shotgun, which revolver shotgun pairing is good for noobs

[rose nova]

it feels weird but its not bad

[blissful dome]

compare it to the veruta reload cancel

[upbeat sail]

ive done everything but d2 and e2

[jade dirge]

hey dak, great news, i was gifted the game

[blissful dome]

hel revo pump

[jade dirge]

is the pump he one thats just called "shotgun"

[rose nova]

yes

[blissful dome]

yes

[jade dirge]

ok good

then a hammer or a bat

[blissful dome]

hammer

dont slendi

nuhuh

[rose nova]

well its different gun
it is slower but compared t like hel rifle sniper or whatev its ok

[jade dirge]

so hammer, yee

[rose nova]

its not bad for an mg in general

[blissful dome]

they used to be on par

[rose nova]

bat gang

[blissful dome]

also sniper reload is so bad like

comon

[upbeat sail]

if you use hammer and run into stamina issues swap to bat

[blissful dome]

no

[jade dirge]

i keep hearing that hammers are just great

[blissful dome]

if you run into stamina issues question your life decisions

[jade dirge]

like, it hits hard, it has reach, only downside is it hogs stamina but what can you do

[rose nova]

walk

[blissful dome]

it doesnt though

[upbeat sail]

if I cannot bulldoze a room solo in melee without stopping I hate the weapon

[blissful dome]

you can

idk

manage stamina

[blissful dome]

you can

just get good

:/

[upbeat sail]

[jade dirge]

i want to wildly bludgeon until whatever im bludgeoning stops trying ot claw my eyes out

[blissful dome]

L bozo

[blissful dome]

mf having to aim for head

[jade dirge]

is the choke mod shotgun any good?

[upbeat sail]

I dont get why that part messes with people

[blissful dome]

nvmd you are a prime bat user

[blissful dome]

its just funny to make fun of

[upbeat sail]

it used to have a role but hi cal more or less replaced it

if you like it anyway then take it

[blissful dome]

hcp and hel rifle

[jade dirge]

i want a shotgun that can delete high HP enemies while i use my bludgeon and HEL iron on small targets

[rose nova]

pump shottie and chokemod have the same dmg

[upbeat sail]

hel rifle has the issue of not functioning properly against bosses

[blissful dome]

choke is techincally better for large targets

[jade dirge]

then the choke i shall use

[blissful dome]

its

fine

its worse than hel gun but liek

itl work

[jade dirge]

do i get all guns from the start or do i have to unlock them?

[blissful dome]

its not revo

or

[upbeat sail]

if theres no boss its great

[blissful dome]

smth

[blissful dome]

yes

[upbeat sail]

if there is one you will be worthless against it and hopefully your teammates can deal with it

[jade dirge]

are both the hel revolver and the choke shot bad on bosses?

[indigo jolt]

Choke mod is completely fine to use
Fairly easy as well, there's not really any hidden tricks

[upbeat sail]

no choke was used as a boss killer before

just the mag size makes it a bit awkward for it

[rose nova]

u wont find bosses till like a ton later in the game

[sharp owl]

no offense but I think you'd have more fun playing the game and discovering things for yourself than getting info dumped on in gen chat

[blissful dome]

choke is fine against bosses

revo just

[jade dirge]

4 shots is decent for a pump shotgun

[rose nova]

so idk if u should be worryin about that

[blissful dome]

sucks

[blissful dome]

yes

[rose nova]

this

[blissful dome]

please

getcho ass outa here

stop loitering

play the game goddamit

[upbeat sail]

yeah that

[rose nova]

:[ well dont b mean smh

spray

[jade dirge]

im still installing the game, im just getting an idea for what i should use

[blissful dome]

wah wah wah

[jade dirge]

i have the game, im no longer loitering

[upbeat sail]

pick by what you like ,it doesnt matter much

[blissful dome]

yes you are

play it

[jade dirge]

a revolver, a shotgun, and a bludgeon then

[blissful dome]

pick what you will

[upbeat sail]

other then short rifle for your hands sake

[rose nova]

u have the exact same conclusion as what u said before askin so ksmdkms

[rose nova]

eh its funny tho

[blissful dome]

so real

[upbeat sail]

its funny with an autoclicker

[rose nova]

it goes pew pew

[blissful dome]

i love rifle short rifle

rifle for stagger

short rifle for ...

uhhh

[rose nova]

non stagger

[blissful dome]

uhm

yea

[jade dirge]

oh hey, its only 40 minutes left

[rose nova]

:D

[jade dirge]

shuold be done by the time i finish my chicken

i should go start that now that i think of it

[blissful dome]

and arthritis

[rose nova]

chicken hawk, gettin hungryyyyy
chicken hawk, gettin hungryy

[blissful dome]

use short rifle for arthritis effect

out of game

[latent palm]

Wait you haven’t done D2-E2?

[blissful dome]

stormer actually hasnt i think

maybe not even c2

[lost lynx]

imagine not doing C2

id say its the 2nd easiest level in the 2nd half of R8

[jade dirge]

does this game have ingame matchmaking or do i have to find a crew myself

[lost lynx]

it has ingame mm

but almost no one uses it

its kinda trash

[jade dirge]

damn

[jade dirge]

want to play once my game is done?

i dont think this game is good for solo

[lost lynx]

its 10:20PM over here

i gotta sleep soon

[jade dirge]

its 1120 here, its friday

[lost lynx]

i work tomorrow

[jade dirge]

you work on saturday?

thats sad man

[lost lynx]

and sunday

[latent palm]

Its hard being a forklift certified professional

[upbeat sail]

me and the person I was playing with swapped over to another game then kept swapping over to new ones after that

ill do them at some point just I dont feel like it currently

[latent palm]

Same

[jade dirge]

im excited to get into this game

[sharp owl]

praying to d0cr3d sniper gets buffed \

[indigo jolt]

He's already announced the buffs
#gtfo-related-questions message
Removing one more bullet from the clip

[sharp owl]

killing myself

[indigo jolt]

don't do that! You could kill a whole one giant with that sniper bullet

[latent palm]

Bolt action sniper

[indigo jolt]

It would be kinda cool for it to have a quick reload cancel and be a psuedo-bolt action

[latent palm]

No

You hand load a big ass round in it

Dealing 80dmg raw and 400 multi if weakpoint

Which takes a 3s long reload

[jade dirge]

this game is fucking terrifying

[sharp owl]

not true

[shut vapor]

This is factually accurate

[sharp owl]

the only thing terrifying in this game is surprise bbc jumpscares

[shut vapor]

It's scary how good it is at making me realise i suck at games

[jade dirge]

the tutorial did not prepare me to get rushed by a horde after the lights went out

also, how do i reach the loadout screen

[sharp owl]

wish i got rushed by a bbc

[shut vapor]

Tutorial has a set loadout

When you choose a mission you get to choose your loadiut

[jade dirge]

im moving on to r1A1 tho

[shut vapor]

Choose r1a1 and then host a lobby, then you'll be able to choose

[shut vapor]

"Look at me, I've played the game enough that i know what can happen and it doesn't scare me anymore" 😔

[jade dirge]

im gonna bring a bio tracker just so i dont get jumpscared by stuff and can track stuff

[shut vapor]

I'm guessing you've watched a video on the game

[jade dirge]

no

well yes but i dont remember it that well

[lean forge]

this game doesnt have jumpscares lol

[jade dirge]

bullshit

[lean forge]

if you think it does then you must not know what a jumpscare is

because the only way you get surprised in this game is by not paying attention lol

[sharp owl]

i never found this game scary except sometimes in solos

[shut vapor]

All you need to know about the biotracker then is holding left click will mark moving enemies

[jade dirge]

"this threat exceeds subject capacity" the lights going out and a horde suddenly showing up wihle i sprint to evac is a jumpscare

[lean forge]

that is not a jumpscare my dude

[jade dirge]

oh
oh nooo

[sharp owl]

u should cheat open the locked door in tutorial

[shut vapor]

So when they wake up you can ping them

[jade dirge]

then explain why it scared the shit out of me

[lean forge]

high stress environment, I could give you that

jumpscare is not remotely the same thing

[jade dirge]

what tool should i bring then?

[sharp owl]

whatever looks fun

[jade dirge]

none of these options look particularly useful

maybe mines?

[sharp owl]

just try out stuff

also this game is best experienced with other ppl

[jade dirge]

i havent got friends to play with lol

[wraith marsh]

#gtfo-media message
#gtfo-media message

hekitty is correct

[sharp owl]

dude

that first clip

i tried that with i think it was bread and beth? they were just chillin on the top thing and bbcs spawned on me at extraction

we wiped

[lean forge]

first clip is just a flat out bug lol

[sharp owl]

it was very funny tho

[wraith marsh]

yeahg thats what we were going for

worth

[sharp owl]

100%

[shut vapor]

Isn't a jumpscare a sudden event intended to surprise and scare a person

[wraith marsh]

and

[lean forge]

if you have ever seen five nights at freddies, that is a game that makes use of jumpscares

hardly comparable to this game

[shut vapor]

Ok but fnaf isn't scary because I know when I'm going to get jumpscared like 🤓

[lean forge]

some people dont

but you get the point

[wraith marsh]

jumpscares are cheap horror anyways

[lean forge]

agreed

[shut vapor]

It's the same in gtfo then???? Lights turning off suddenly when you think you're in the clear, alarms blaring all of a sudden

[lean forge]

but claiming this game has a bunch of jumpscares is like

its not

that is a player triggered event that makes sense as a consequence of an action you did

not like a ghoul dropping out of the ceiling at lightning speed while screaming

[wraith marsh]

r3c1 mom scream

[lean forge]

spoilers hello

[shut vapor]

Probably from walking forwards in a corridor

A player interaction

[wraith marsh]

its not really a spoiler tbh

you either know what it means or you dont

[lean forge]

okay well it was for me and I dont appreciate it

[lean forge]

thats not the same because it doesnt actually connect with something you did

[wraith marsh]

you have no idea what that statement even means but ok bro

[sharp owl]

it got me for sure

[lean forge]

if you press a button you expect something to happen even if its spooky

if youre walking down a hallway youre not intrinsically expecting a consequence of that action

[shut vapor]

That's like literally the staple of jumpscare horror in abandoned building environments

You expect something to happen in a dark long corridor

[lean forge]

almost feels like you are intentionally misinterpreting what I am saying

horror movies are not this game

[wraith marsh]

idk why this is developing like this when the initial claim is that there is not jumpscares period

[lean forge]

the closest thing this game has to jumpscares are the infection spores that are sometimes visually hidden popping

[gaunt lichen]

Dunno about that, 10cc got the ambient noises and sounds down pretty well. Turn up the volume, play solo and now the game suddenly feels very eerie.

[upbeat sail]

thats atmopsheric horror not jumpscares though

you know the kind that takes actual effort lol

[gaunt lichen]

There are a few expeditions that technically counts as jumpscares

[upbeat sail]

||maybe pablo if you happen to be standing too close to the door||

[gaunt lichen]

But yeah, unfortunately its fairly difficult to jumpscare a player when they have power over the situation (that being the gun you point at an enemy).

[upbeat sail]

ideally you dont want it to happen because it will rapidly shift the game into annoying once the initial shock wears off

[jade dirge]

my first reaction to seeing an enemy is to bludgeon them with a hammer

[queen sundial]

Есть пачка ?

[jade dirge]

maybe a revolver isnt the best idea

[lofty grotto]

ok back now

[sharp owl]

for what level

[jade dirge]

just in general

[sharp owl]

how did you come to this conclusion

[jade dirge]

loooot of enemies at the red door

[sharp owl]

try putting a mine across the "red door"

[upbeat sail]

have you considered a machinegun

[jade dirge]

i have yess

[wraith marsh]

🤮

[latent palm]

Tanks on E2

[wraith marsh]

bro you cant say that thats spoilering me

[shut vapor]

You can't say that Chill, that's spoilering me that Warps message is a spoiler

[latent palm]

You cant say that quad thats spoilering for chill and spoilering what i was about to spoil for stormer

[jade dirge]

i have learned 2 things:
hi cal pistol hits like a truck
hel shotgun is kinda ass

[high orchid]

so you have not used hel shotgun then

[jade dirge]

I just used hel shotgun

It's kinda ass

[high orchid]

no it isn't

[jade dirge]

i think its kinda ass

[high orchid]

literally that weapon makes surge alarms piss easy

[true pilot]

Thats basically everyones reaction to using it for the first time

it has a very specific playstyle that it needs to be good

[mellow hedge]

HEL shotgun is amazing

[true pilot]

but if someone uses that playstyle it becomes an absolute monster

[jade dirge]

i dont like it, im gonna try the accrat heavy smg

[mellow hedge]

Also HEL revolver is the best main in the game

[true pilot]

why is the first thing we tell to beginners - weapon x is the best, like most beginners might not even hit their shots

[muted tree]

What makes HEL revolver so good?

[jade dirge]

overpenetration

[mellow hedge]

Well it is objectively the best main in the game

[true pilot]

insane reload, penetration, accuracy and damage

[high orchid]

it's basically like a dmr with hel bullets, at the cost of not 1 shotting shooters

[jade dirge]

i hit the enemies, but i dont always hit the head of the enemies

[true pilot]

im not disagreeing but beginners dont need to know that, all weapons are technically viable

[mellow hedge]

tru

[muted tree]

sounds nuts, but im terrible at aiming

[jade dirge]

right now im running the HEL revolver, the base shotgun, the biosig gun, and a mallet

[mellow hedge]

i think carbine is a good beginner weapon

[high orchid]

I'd say just go whatever if you're starting out

[true pilot]

Yeah id agree

[mellow hedge]

Weapons arent a major concern when starting out just dont take 4 snipers or some shti

[true pilot]

ah yes, the bio-gun lol

[true pilot]

I think id actually game end myself if i saw 4 snipers

[jade dirge]

the hi cal has done right by me so i love the damn thing, but a lot of the long guns ive tried have been sorta mid

[high orchid]

when it comes to specials basically have 1 weapon focusing on higher health enemies and 1 focused on groups

[mellow hedge]

Eva did the first alarm with a team with only sniper, no main, tool or melee

[high orchid]

the other two can be whatever

[true pilot]

Rip eva

[jade dirge]

ive tried teh HEL revolver and the HEL shotgun, so im trying something entirely new with the heavy SMG

[mellow hedge]

Hical is good

[jade dirge]

hi cal is very good

[true pilot]

but tbh eva is a masochist, he did brazil skip

[high orchid]

🤮 hi-cal

[jade dirge]

but a lot of the long guns are sorta mid

[mellow hedge]

Its good to experiment

[mellow hedge]

Yeah but thats just cool lol

[jade dirge]

imo the HEL guns suffer from sheisse damage

[latent palm]

What

[true pilot]

and painful… but its also good

[jade dirge]

the proper ballistics guns hit like trucks

[latent palm]

Did you just say

Hel shotgun suck ass?

[mellow hedge]

I think its just lack of experience that makes you say this. If you play more you will see the insane power of guns like hel revolver and hel rifle AND hel shotgun

[high orchid]

have you tried using the special hel weapons?

[jade dirge]

im nto a fan of the HEL shotgun

[latent palm]

[wraith marsh]

hel weapons do not take any hit to their base damage just because they are hel

its part of why they are so op

[jade dirge]

not yet, the hi cal has done right by me so ill stick with it fora time

[true pilot]

Somethig you should know - not all guns need to oneshot, hel shotty for instance specializes in keeping the enemies back and not actually killing them

[wraith marsh]

im ngl I hate ppl saying that

[jade dirge]

id rather have a dead enemy than a staggered enemy, hopefully an SMG will do that for me

[wraith marsh]

because it does kill shit very well

[high orchid]

hel shotty is a pretty decent weapon at killing

[mellow hedge]

Not in surge alarms :D

[true pilot]

have fun in later levels

[jade dirge]

in later levels ill reevaluate, but as it stands i need killing power

[true pilot]

Yeah that also

[true pilot]

you should use hel auto pistol it has great killing power =)

[mellow hedge]

Sticking with whats comfortable is good, but experimenting is also good. Dont be ignorant like I was and ignore the holy grail of weapons hahaha

[jade dirge]

so you guys want me to try the hel rifle and a hel autopistol?

[mellow hedge]

not the autopistol haha

Its a support weapon

[true pilot]

shush

[mellow hedge]

oop

my bad

[true pilot]

>=(

[true pilot]

Youll prolly like hel rifle

[jade dirge]

ill give the revolver another shot but last i tried it its sorta sheisse

[sharp siren]

Its this another stagger its useless 50 hour take?

[true pilot]

Special revo isnt in a great spot ill admit that

[mellow hedge]

Learn how to reload cancel and practice aim and you will never pick another weapon

[true pilot]

In a way, yes

[jade dirge]

its mostly the lack of stopping power thats bothering me, it feels like it does nothing unless i headshot

[high orchid]

the autopistol kills pretty fucking well it's more than a "support weapon"

[sharp siren]

Gotta love the cycle of players still going nice and strong

[true pilot]

do you mean hel revo or special revo?

[wraith marsh]

what if we told you every other main does 1/4th the damage per shot

[mellow hedge]

Thats why you headshot

[jade dirge]

hel iron

[mellow hedge]

wha

[sharp siren]

He meant the hel revolver

[mellow hedge]

oh

[sharp siren]

Iron = revolver

[wraith marsh]

lets make this simple

[sharp siren]

Big iron

[jade dirge]

it doesnt really feel like a revolver, it hits the guy but unless im dead on its just kinda crap

[true pilot]

Hel revo staggers with like every shot tho

[wraith marsh]

just dont take an auto weapon

and its a good weapon

[true pilot]

it has one of the highest damages of primary weapons

[wraith marsh]

(minus hel auto which you just wont like judging by your hel shotty reaction)

[mellow hedge]

It also pierces

Good stagger

[jade dirge]

ill try it again, maybe it just left a bad taste in my mouth

[mellow hedge]

Dont give up on it because it is the best main in the game

[sharp siren]

Hel revo bad

Crutch weapon

!!!!!!

[mellow hedge]

Mods can we get this guy outta here

[jade dirge]

i mostly hate the lack of range to a lot of these guns

[mellow hedge]

rip

no gif

[wraith marsh]

welp hel revo doesnt suffer from that either

[jade dirge]

admittedly ive only tried a few, but the shotguns do literally nothing past 5 feet

[sharp siren]

Why i cant snipe with the pump shotgun guys!

Chat

[jade dirge]

hopefully a proper rifle and a retry on the big iron solves this problem

[sharp siren]

Is this real!

[mellow hedge]

Usually shotguns dont have range?

[storm quartz]

When you see a hel revo Scattergun player

[knotty wren]

something something shotguns have range irl

[jade dirge]

even teh "long range shotgun" doesnt do anything at range

[mellow hedge]

Me

[storm quartz]

You know they're handicapped

[sharp siren]

But in real life!!!!

[mellow hedge]

Its still a shotgun

[wraith marsh]

yea cuz theyre not doing hel shotty scatter

massive L

[mellow hedge]

Na thats an insult

[true pilot]

I cant wait for - scatergun is bad cause it doesnt have r a n g e

[wraith marsh]

scattergun doesnt kill?

[mellow hedge]

Hel Revo + Scatter is best combo

[unreal crystal]

scattergun doesnt kill.

[jade dirge]

hopefully the hel rifle+hel iron combo has the range i seek

[unreal crystal]

ty aeons

[wraith marsh]

thank god someone is here to get that

[unreal crystal]

its a top 5 clip for me

ngl

[mellow hedge]

link

[wraith marsh]

its pretty good

[unreal crystal]

id have to find it

that requires effort

so no

[mellow hedge]

Mods

Bomb his house

[high orchid]

scattergun is kinda mid it takes 5 point blank shots to kill a fully overhealed heavy

[mellow hedge]

more with a quickfix 😔

[vestal crystal]

wtf man i was just here chilling....

[storm quartz]

Save yourself don't let the scattergun corrupt your brain

[vestal crystal]

you guys know what weapon doesnt kill anything?

machinegun

[unreal crystal]

great weapon

S tier

[wraith marsh]

mg players when they discover impactful gameplay

[vestal crystal]

https://www.twitch.tv/gerzhull/clip/StrongSplendidRaccoonThunBeast-GSV7UCCzaslGJfF0?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

typical MG gameplay right here

[unreal crystal]

LMAO

[sharp owl]

what is hel iron

[wraith marsh]

its like big iron

[high orchid]

hel revo

[wraith marsh]

but hel

[unreal crystal]

i need to collect all those clips ryk

[jade dirge]

Hel rifle is very nice

[sharp owl]

so true breastie

[jade dirge]

Large range, large damage

Not a lot of bullets tho

[high orchid]

as long as you hit two enemies you're doing fine imo

it works best when you can get a long sightline and have the enemies just rush at you

[jade dirge]

i mostly just like the high damage on it

hits like a small island

[high orchid]

it does the same damage as hi cal, but has a longer range before damage fall off

[jade dirge]

hell yes

the only thing i dislike is the low ammo count

[latent palm]

[jade dirge]

whats so bad about wanting the infected demons of the complex dead rather than faltered

[latent palm]

@junior latch tell em eva

[jade dirge]

hel shotgun bad, the hel rifle though

the hel rifle hits like a truck

[sharp owl]

yeah hel shotgun is like the worst primary

[shut vapor]

There are times where killing enemies is less ideal

[jade dirge]

Hel revolver is a little better, but sorta sluggish imo

[jade dirge]

No

Death is just a permenant stagger

[shut vapor]

Also nice Gnorp pfp btw

[jade dirge]

Danke

[shut vapor]

For legal reasons i cannot divulge further on my statement

[jade dirge]

in my opinion there is no situation having an enemy faltered is better than having an enemy dead

[shut vapor]

For a while it'll be like that

[sharp owl]

yeah I agree 100% you should always be killing everything

[jade dirge]

think of death like a stagger the thing you shot aint recovering from

[sharp owl]

fax sista

[jade dirge]

im a man

[sharp owl]

unlucky

[shut vapor]

But think of their family

These sleepers don't want to die

[jade dirge]

frankly if the infected's family is nearby, they're likely infected too

in which case they're next for a good hammering

[jade dirge]

yk what i mean?

anything thats infected needs to die, cause it will attack me

[latent palm]

Im sure youll beat R3D1 so easy

[jade dirge]

thank you

[shut vapor]

You broke into their home

No wonder they will attack you

[jade dirge]

im being hired to reclaim equipment from company facilities, they serve as an obstacle to the goal im being paid to do

they are a problem and a thing that should be bludgeoned

[junior latch]

Ye choke only kills to like 20 meters out reliably

[jade dirge]

sadly, but there is a better way

the HEL rifle

[sharp owl]

best gun in the game tbh

[shut vapor]

Sniper

[high orchid]

hel rifle does the same damage as choke shotgun with the same amount of ammo, and has a longer effective range, 25% larger clip, and can kill multiple enemies in 1 shot

[jade dirge]

the only downside is that you have to aim, and it has a short charge time

[shut vapor]

Yeah but shotguns are cooler

[jade dirge]

but those are a small price to pay to obliterate like 6 people in a single rifle round

[high orchid]

you rarely will get those 6 kills shots

[jade dirge]

yes but when i do boi is it nice

[high orchid]

think the highest I have gotten is a 5 kill

[junior latch]

exchanges that for higher fire rate (by a lot lot) and better precision

choke is worse tho

Generally

[jade dirge]

i hit a three piece earlier

[latent palm]

Commonly you get triples and quad than usual

[jade dirge]

instantly killed 2 rank and file enemies and took the head off a giant that was coming up some stairs

[sharp owl]

holy shit thats awesome

[jade dirge]

the freebird solo was real

i just wish i had a long gun that was as cool as that, hel revolver is still sorta lackluster imo

[sharp owl]

yeah it kinda sux

[latent palm]

And yet ppl still call it S tier

So bad judgment

Smh

[jade dirge]

people can like it all tehy want, i aint a fan

[shut vapor]

Hel revolver sux because it sounds horrible

[jade dirge]

its sorta lackluster, it dont have the punch id expect a revolver to have

[latent palm]

[wind needle]

mmm, having trouble with reactor mission on first rundown 😦 , i forgor how hard it is to get supplies without people, is there somehow some spanish side of the server to find a spanish speaking team? or i can just get in a team and not talk? i have a mic and i can read english (kinda) decently, but hearing and speaking english is kinda hard

[sharp owl]

@jade dirge what are your thoughts on hel gun

[jade dirge]

its a hybrid thermoelectric light-gas revolver, id expect it to be a bit punchier

[latent palm]

O no

[jade dirge]

aboslutely grand

i love the damn thing, its like the hi cal pistol but with more range and overpenetration

[sharp owl]

#hc-latin-america message

[shut vapor]

#hc-europe message

[wind needle]

ty

[jade dirge]

actually, i think someone said its a direct upgrade to hi cal in all regards but ammo capacity

[wind needle]

ill find a team tomorrow then, its late asf already, ty

[latent palm]

Good luck prisoner

May your hitmarkers be orange

And your ammopacks be many

[wind needle]

tyty

[sharp owl]

and your teammates be intelligent

[latent palm]

Hey now

We dont point that out

Ever

Oh

Evas here

Lets gooooo

[wind needle]

they cant be worse than the bots

[junior latch]

Its a main weapon

hs and bs or 3 bs kills

Hel revo (with reload cancelling) just has insane uptime and output. Probably the best versatility aswell

[jade dirge]

i just aint a fan personally

gonna try something like the double tap rifle

[latent palm]

“Hel shotgun bad”

[junior latch]

Thats hel rifle

Hel gun does barely more than half of high cals dmg

[junior latch]

I saw ye…

lemme guess next comes dmr/carbine bad

[jade dirge]

whats the difference between hel gun and hel rifle

[high orchid]

double tap requires a fuck ton of skill to make it efficient

[latent palm]

Just as hel shotgun

[high orchid]

Hel gun does less damage, has 4 pen instead of 6, but has more ammo

[junior latch]

damage, mag size, reload, range, pen value, prec multi, fire rate

[high orchid]

have you tried getting 1 burst kills with double tap?

[jade dirge]

still, i like hel rifle so ill stick with it

hel gun i mean

the charge rifle with a 9 round mag

[latent palm]

Have you got a quad stagger with hel shotty?

[wraith marsh]

have you tried getting 1 shot kills with client hel shotgun

[high orchid]

that's hel gun

[high orchid]

yeah that ain't hard

[jade dirge]

hel gun yes, the one that looks like a basic rifle with a tumor

[latent palm]

Sure

[latent palm]

I got that once

And only once

On alt 3 release

[jade dirge]

its like 4 am, i gotta go to bed

[mellow hedge]

This hasnt got any better

[high orchid]

no as I don't go for that

[mellow hedge]

If you dont go that far ur throwing

Only 1 taps with hel shotty

[wintry peak]

https://youtu.be/RszQK9iMIHU?si=teJI-KTBlyP5ZBAw

Here's for you some homemade chase soundtrack for when you trigger a big horde

[latent palm]

Ya think?

[mellow hedge]

Lmaoo

[high orchid]

if I wanna 1 tap with a main shotgun I use sawed off

[mellow hedge]

Hel shotty is just big sawed off change my mind

[jade dirge]

thats a good idea

[high orchid]

takes more than 4 shots to kill a giant

[jade dirge]

my boi no

hel shotgun is piercing, low damage, and full auto

[mellow hedge]

Twas a joke

Hel shotty still very good

HEL shotty is good, machine gun, combat shotgun

more prob i cant remember

[latent palm]

Literally hel shotty

But alternative is hel pp

[mellow hedge]

HEL shotty IS crowd control

[high orchid]

hel gun

[mellow hedge]

no

[latent palm]

Shottin 1 bullet and taking a massive nerf to delay between shots isnt stagger

Its an obligation to ads then hit your shots

[mellow hedge]

It has okay damage but is build for crown control

[latent palm]

Thats because it sacrificed the dmg for piercing properties

[latent palm]

There hasnt been a better feeling to dump it down a surge wave

[mellow hedge]

would be unbalanced

or useless

Play modded haha

[latent palm]

Strap on main dmg

With condition is “enemies are close in 7m”

You could strap on the maximum is 14+29+39% main dmg

Tho i dont use so i might b wrong

[high orchid]

STW-RQ/20 iirc is the booster name for main with close enemies

[latent palm]

Yeah i really dont read the names

Either just remember the usages mostly

Scattergun

[high orchid]

only skill needed for scatter is pressing the w key until you are close to a giant

[latent palm]

The arm cannon

And thats the power of it

[high orchid]

any more and it would be more broken

[latent palm]

Most kills in 1 shot i got is 6kills in the R6C3 term scan

[mellow hedge]

Fr 😔

[high orchid]

it never did

literally discord works as a better matchmaking than most games when it comes to coop games like this

[latent palm]

Thats sad

But rather find ppl online

Thats how i found player like frostty

Who has a 6foot wolf spider as his floor gang pet

@mellow hedge wheres the huntsman spider you said last week?

[mellow hedge]

Got him chilling on my window

Just fed him

[latent palm]

Hes catching some magpies fr fr

[mellow hedge]

Took down an emu yesterday

Like far out

[latent palm]

Nice

[junior latch]

„Low dmg“ lol

[mellow hedge]

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but it doesnt kill a giant in two shots

[high orchid]

just use sawed off

it can kill giants in 2 shots

[mellow hedge]

My brother

run r2e1 with sawed off

[junior latch]

hel shotty go brrr

[mellow hedge]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

who needs a life when you have hel shotty

[high orchid]

ok I will, and I will beat it with sawed off

[mellow hedge]

I mean INSTEAD of hel shotty and see the difference

[high orchid]

I already know the difference between the two as I run both quite often

[junior latch]

hel pp only on surge

[mellow hedge]

that was amazing ngl

[lofty grotto]

Hey all

[lofty grotto]

How’s everyone?

[sharp owl]

im mulching rn

[lofty grotto]

Just thinking about plans for “tomorrow”

[hybrid cloak]

did u even have friends to begin with

70% of my classmates in high school didnt even know how to turn on a pc

[shut vapor]

Impressive considering it's typically a single press of a button

[hybrid cloak]

you're in luck cuz there some people here passionate bout that

[hybrid cloak]

they're quite good at using phones and all its lil things but a pc absolutely no idea

its like magic to them

[mellow hedge]

Was there prep or anything?

[lost lynx]

literally me

[blissful dome]

can i shoot someone

legally

without self defense

[lost lynx]

IFOOOOOO

[blissful dome]

yooo

its pable

:3

mwah

[lost lynx]

mwaaaaaaaah

[blissful dome]

yay

[mellow hedge]

was it like an end of year test or smth?

na thats insane

I literally had to spend 6 weeks with a team programming a GUI in my first year of coding

In year 11 in high school

Thats actually insane

Theres no way there are people that incompetent

Literally all you write is print("Hello world") what is so hard

this is why they need to bring computer class back

compulsory tbh

yeah but then we dont also have idiot 25 year olds who dont even know how to turn on a computer

thats crazy

how about we put them all in a pit and do it battle royale style

[lost lynx]

funny how those people buy overpriced apple products when they can get something better for half the price

😔

[gilded igloo]

Ignorance costs.

[mellow hedge]

fr

[lost lynx]

with the price of an iphone 15 you can buy a PC for GTFO and more

💀

[shut vapor]

Gtfo is horribly optimised, 1k might not be enough

[lost lynx]

20fps gaming

my laptop was like 800$ and it runs GTFO pretty well

[gilded igloo]

I built my computer during the GPU shortage, so I don't have accurate numbers

But it do be running GTFO

[lost lynx]

me buying the latest PC components to run Roblox

[gilded igloo]

Crisp 200fps roblox

[hybrid cloak]

no roblox gang

[gilded igloo]

I mean, it is one of the biggest gaming platforms at the moment.

You rarely hear about it because it's so seperate from the typical games space, but it's got a strong hold of those kids

[lost lynx]

Roblox is scaming kids pretty bad

worse than gacha games

😔

[hybrid cloak]

to complete this minigame spend 20$ and you get a cool nametag too

[lost lynx]

you play BA you dont have rights to begin with

||i also play BA||

...

[mellow hedge]

holyyyyyy

[lost lynx]

bro

it can be worse tbh

do you play the G game?

gensh--

thank god

[shut vapor]

Gattle Cats 😎

[lost lynx]

Battle cats best gacha

[shut vapor]

You are redeemed and forgiven for all past atrocities

[rare stone]

anime pfp 🤓☝️

🧢

[shut vapor]

Draw a battle cats pfp

[lost lynx]

🙏

draw Miyu

[shut vapor]

I have seen some sus stuff from BA

[lost lynx]

okay bro

ingame its not that bad

its a totally wholesome story

[shut vapor]

It's community is not

[lost lynx]

[mellow hedge]

dafuq is BA

[lost lynx]

cough cough Azur Lane

[gilded igloo]

Battle Ass

[shut vapor]

Blue archive

[rare stone]

I'm glad I don't play any of these games

[lost lynx]

yeah but Azur Lane is worse

[gilded igloo]

I played Fire Emblem Heroes for a while before discovering I was becoming very depressed. Or maybe it was the other way around

[rare stone]

no it wasn't the other way around

[lost lynx]

i dropped all of my gacha games when i discovered GTFO

lol

[shut vapor]

If you want a gacha game with basically 0 nsfw content, you play battle cats

[rare stone]

🙏

[lost lynx]

same

[gilded igloo]

Military Games draw two people.

Horrible people.
Autistic people.

[lost lynx]

but tbh
if you want a military experience Girls Frontline is better

the story is.....

[shut vapor]

Which category do war thunder players fall under

[gilded igloo]

yes

[lost lynx]

acustic and regarded

please dont
the story will fuck your sanity

pretty bad

[rare stone]

does GTFO count?

[mellow hedge]

ew tf

[gilded igloo]

I don't think so.

[rare stone]

I'd say so

[gilded igloo]

As a military game?

[lost lynx]

GTFO is masochists

and you cant say otherwise

[rare stone]

no, regarding what kinda people play it

[lost lynx]

masochists

GTFO

[mellow hedge]

I dont think anyone likes lolicons apart from like ped0s

[shut vapor]

Aren't those basically the same group of people???

[lost lynx]

yes

[rare stone]

yes

[lost lynx]

yes they are

[crimson oriole]

they're the same thing

[gilded igloo]

Consensus has been reached

[crimson oriole]

hive mind connected

[shut vapor]

Tarkov players in the current state of tarkov

[mellow hedge]

yes

[rare stone]

hope you don't get arrested

[gilded igloo]

GTFO is cetainly the most hateful of Left 4 Dead's descendents, but I love it for that.

Give me a game that's mean.

[shut vapor]

R6E, that's a mean game, but mean on your soul thanks to it's horrible gameplay

[hybrid cloak]

bit harsh no?

[lost lynx]

no

[burnt flume]

Yeah acoustic guitars aren't as cool as electric but they're still very well regarded in genres like folk and country I believe

[mellow hedge]

Metal on top 🙏

[rare stone]

what about bass guitars?

[burnt flume]

Bass guitars are cool ig

[rare stone]

my brother plays bass :)

[gilded igloo]

I play bass

Love that shit

[mellow hedge]

i dont :(

[rare stone]

I can't play any instruments

[burnt flume]

I'd want to play keyboards/organ

[mellow hedge]

Bass is sick

[burnt flume]

After that, electric guitar probably

[rare stone]

you're already playing on a keyboard dingus

[mellow hedge]

Should try drumming 😉

[rare stone]

why would you wanna play on something like a heart, though? 🤨

[gilded igloo]

Love that funky sound

[burnt flume]

After I get my Hammond organ the next organ I'll be playing with will come from you

[rare stone]

😳